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<v Speaker 1>The following.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live.

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<v Speaker 4>From the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters.

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<v Speaker 5>At the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown six second plus dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Kitsis any continent touchdown and.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an off season edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by

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<v Speaker 3>Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco,

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<v Speaker 3>Texas in the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody, as we

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<v Speaker 3>are ready to attack this twenty twenty five off season

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<v Speaker 3>with a head, a heavy heart, and with a little

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<v Speaker 3>extra I don't even know, maybe a little extra juice,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's gonna be an interesting off season to say

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<v Speaker 3>the least. We've got Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Tommy

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<v Speaker 3>Yarrish with Chris Bean in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be yeah, buckle up, here we go. That's

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<v Speaker 3>buckle up, buttercup. Yeah, I mean, this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a an off season that is not for the faint

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<v Speaker 3>of heart. Cowboys have relatively zero cap room and don't

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<v Speaker 3>seem super happy about their options of finagling that cap room.

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<v Speaker 5>And oh and by the way, they've got to make.

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<v Speaker 3>A decision on their head coach moving forward.

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<v Speaker 5>So lots to talk about. Yeah, a little bit on

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<v Speaker 5>the docket there.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, how's everybody doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody great? Great?

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<v Speaker 3>Had some little chili coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, that hawk has arrived, dude low bringing

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<v Speaker 1>is bringing carry on luggage. This this is coming weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>What man, that one's on, Tommy.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it is crispy as a Northerner, it is very cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're from Chicago, Yeah, one of the bears.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll talk about that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one degrees is twenty one degrees no matter where

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<v Speaker 1>you are. The other thing I would say, is that

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<v Speaker 1>different for in Chicago because win But we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a few days ago that wind that us shoot this run.

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<v Speaker 5>In that was very like yeah, yeah, and the snow

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<v Speaker 5>that's about to hit two is very We're expected to

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<v Speaker 5>get seven inches of I've seen.

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<v Speaker 6>Very I've seen one to four seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw graphic of eight to twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, that was over like a couple of days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that that graphic up at the top. It's like over

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<v Speaker 3>three or four days.

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<v Speaker 5>But still either believe the one I see it is

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<v Speaker 5>how I'm kind of seeing it because because there, because

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<v Speaker 5>you're from Chicago. No no, no, no, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>no no no. I'm not trying to not trying to

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<v Speaker 5>upset mother nature. I'm just saying there have been many

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<v Speaker 5>a time in this lone star state where you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the weizer experts say hey, it's gonna snow x y

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<v Speaker 5>z amount and then you get flurries and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Regardless.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody stay safe when you're driving, you're careful of good

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<v Speaker 5>and please don't get hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Meteorologist Tommy Ash talking.

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<v Speaker 6>To you, have a meteorol see you doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta get you to screen.

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<v Speaker 5>We gotta get you to stop wearing button ups.

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<v Speaker 1>To talking cowboys.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the next step that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody looks very yeah, okay, well this very cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>We need.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to get fast and loose in there. You

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<v Speaker 3>got your butt up. Don't listen to that thank you

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<v Speaker 3>say with your chest.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you're here with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you got one guy on one side of the

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<v Speaker 3>table wearing a button up and the other guy on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side of the table wearing a night Here

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<v Speaker 3>on the Element T shirt.

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<v Speaker 6>If anything, just undo one of them, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, give us a little more neck you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>Ye.

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<v Speaker 5>Got an undershirt.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got the chain on them. Kids watching, I'm just saying, dude,

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<v Speaker 6>we're talking about cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Just think what does the chain have a number on it?

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<v Speaker 5>It does, it's a numbers. It's twenty eight for my

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<v Speaker 5>girlfriend's softphone. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a supporting boyfriend right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I love bit.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about that after the show.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys fall in their final game of the regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>Nineteen vote for Darren Woodson, please do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's why you wear the necklace. You're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get exact into canton uh reaction from Washington h Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>fall twenty three to nineteen in the final seconds of

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty four season. It was a bummer way

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<v Speaker 3>to end it. I don't think there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people that were upset about it. At the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day, it was a game going into it.

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<v Speaker 3>We all talked about it. It was a chance to evaluate,

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<v Speaker 3>got to see Trey Lance quite a bit, got to

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<v Speaker 3>see Jonathan Mingo, got to see Deuce Fawn. Finally you

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<v Speaker 3>got to see all these guys play a little extra

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<v Speaker 3>snaps up front, and I thought you still got what

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<v Speaker 3>you needed to out of that game. You had a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to win it against a playoff team that played

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<v Speaker 3>their starters for the first half, made some switches in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half, and honestly, you played really well against

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<v Speaker 3>their starters in the first half with your reserves and

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<v Speaker 3>your depth, so lots to come out of that. Your

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts after the.

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<v Speaker 1>Loss, well, first and foremost, I think that Mike Zimmer

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<v Speaker 1>might be kryptonite to Jaydeon Daniels. I mean, outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the the Terry McLaurin pass late in the first matchup,

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<v Speaker 1>he's more or less shut down Jaydon Daniels. It took

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Mariota to enter in the game for the Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>that have any kind of juice offensively.

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<v Speaker 3>To tell he was trying to yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he had a vendetta.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it was trying to make something happen so interesting there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a big takeaway for me, is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as some other defensive coordinators have been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out Jaydon Daniels. Mike Zimmers had his number

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<v Speaker 1>from day one, so intriguing, and I wouldn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mind putting that in the category of pros versus cons

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<v Speaker 1>As far as if you're going to bring zimber bag,

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<v Speaker 1>he clearly has the number of the franchise quarterback of

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<v Speaker 1>a rival you're going to play multiple times a year

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<v Speaker 1>for the next several years, so keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to circle to Trey Lance. Finally we

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<v Speaker 1>get not only Trey Lance as a starter, we get

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<v Speaker 1>a full game to evaluate Trey Lance. I've been standing

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<v Speaker 1>here pleading for months now to see it. What never said?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, man burn all.

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<v Speaker 1>The receipts, I saw good and I saw bad from

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Lance, which was expected. I didn't expect that he

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<v Speaker 1>would go out there and light up the school board

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<v Speaker 1>to the tune of forty one points.

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<v Speaker 6>Josh, Hey, you know, but I would have liked if

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<v Speaker 6>those were touchdowns instead of field goals. Been a little

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<v Speaker 6>closer for Yeah, a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby puts it in when you have gold to go

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<v Speaker 1>on more than just one occasion out of the several.

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<v Speaker 6>Chances you got into the red zone quite a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he used his legs, which we knew was going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. He looked great doing so. Some of his

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<v Speaker 1>throws were more crisp than I than I expect. He

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<v Speaker 1>had some good accuracy in that first half, that's a zip.

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<v Speaker 1>He had some good accuracy, some anticipation some of those throws.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the second half, when he was tasked with

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<v Speaker 1>applying touch to those passes, it reared its head again,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that's what he's been struggling with. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying that since training camp. We've talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>since training camp when it comes to those those fades,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I couldn't understand why the Cowboys kept

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<v Speaker 1>calling the fades the and then I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, I know it was just a mistake, but the

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<v Speaker 3>one di Rico daddle and.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt so bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but you know what helps, Yeah, it's true, man, yea,

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<v Speaker 6>let me.

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<v Speaker 1>So come on, t I mean, was it perfect. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't expect that it would be, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>show me. I could honestly sit here and say he

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<v Speaker 1>showed me enough to in Fred since the two way Street,

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<v Speaker 1>so he would have to want to come back. But

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<v Speaker 1>from a front office standpoint, based on that game, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be willing to welcome him back at a reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>price for that QB two battle for twenty QB two.

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<v Speaker 3>That that second point is very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Reasonable price, reasonable price, Yeah, of course, very very true.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm there too. The timing was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things, Josh. I'm sure you'll allude to this too,

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<v Speaker 3>but the timing was off a bit in some of

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<v Speaker 3>the throws. He whenever it comes to the cannon that

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<v Speaker 3>he has, doesn't matter, it's still going to happen. Like

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<v Speaker 3>he's still got arm velocity, he's got the accuracy at times.

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<v Speaker 3>It's anytime you've got a finesse. He doesn't have that

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<v Speaker 3>element to his game, and the timing is a part

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 6>But I will say Jonathan Mingo had his best game

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<v Speaker 6>as a cowboy.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you know? What do you know?

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<v Speaker 5>What happens when you get a good pass?

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<v Speaker 6>More than one exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>And I've interpret some things.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, it felt like Trey Lance had more juice,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean overall than what Kooper Rush was bringing you. Granted,

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<v Speaker 6>you're getting more of a conservative I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>say bus driver flippantly, but that's kind of what you

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<v Speaker 6>get from a Cooper Rush, right, And we talked about

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<v Speaker 6>it several times where you're not seeing the zip on

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<v Speaker 6>Cooper Rush's throws, whereas for Trey Lance, you were seeing

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<v Speaker 6>him throw the ball down the field. You were getting

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<v Speaker 6>multiple opportunities for guys like Cavante Turpin, multiple opportunities for

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<v Speaker 6>guys like Jonathan Mingo. There was juice there, and I

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<v Speaker 6>would have killed to have seen that develop over several

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<v Speaker 6>games versus one single game. However, if you're Trey Lance,

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<v Speaker 6>do you in the now where we're talking free agency? Right,

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<v Speaker 6>if you are Trey Lance, do you not feel like

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<v Speaker 6>you might have a better shot staying here at QB

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<v Speaker 6>two then restarting with a brand new coaching staff. I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, starting over, I know, right, and maybe

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<v Speaker 6>a new coaching staff to begin with anyways, So I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know. I just feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>Build on this man to answer your question, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>throw it to tell me. If I'm Trey Lance, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going really for a couple of reasons. One, if I

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<v Speaker 1>were literally Trey Lance, I'm looking at it as you

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<v Speaker 1>finally gave me the start in week eighteen. However, why

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<v Speaker 1>not give me the opportunity when we were mathematically eliminated

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<v Speaker 1>from the playoffs, even if it was not a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more than a package here there, but zero reps

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. But also when you consider the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>in speaking with Trey Lance after the game and going

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<v Speaker 1>into this offseason, though when I asked him, he did

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<v Speaker 1>say he is still not focused on free agency, so

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<v Speaker 1>as recently as right after the game, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still right where I am. I need to do

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<v Speaker 1>some reflection on the season. But he also said he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to an opportunity. That stuck with me because

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<v Speaker 1>the question then becomes the opportunity to be what is

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to remain a QB two and maybe be

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<v Speaker 1>someone's QB three if they don't feel like they want

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<v Speaker 1>to compete with the QB two. If it's for a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>even a remote chance to be QB one, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>happening here. So if I'm Trey Lance, and that opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm looking for is at least a I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say fair, but at least an open opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to battle for QB one somewhere, that's I'm going really quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>If you are another two, I mean, I granted, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>we're too close to the cowboy situation of it all.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't think he has a QB one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying, hey, I'm not saying he has a And.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think anybody takes a mill again on like

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<v Speaker 6>the one game that he gave you to say, oh well,

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<v Speaker 6>let's give him a shot at QB one. I think

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<v Speaker 6>his best scores of action would be to stay. But

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<v Speaker 6>then again, I am very biased.

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<v Speaker 1>But I see what you're saying. So let me clarify.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean contextually speaking, so from a Trey Lance standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's talking about an opportunity to compete for QB one,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily right off the bat, because he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have this influx of NFL teams that are beating

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<v Speaker 1>down his doing free agency. Let's be clear on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's a way two or three, and it may,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it is those two or three, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at those two or three, and you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>starting QB situation and you say, is that a Dak Prescott?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a Patrick Mahomes? Is that a tool? If

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is no, no, no, is that a CJ. Stroud.

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<v Speaker 1>If the answer is no, no, no, no no, then

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<v Speaker 1>you have a chance. You go in knowing that you're

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<v Speaker 1>likely QB two in those two or three situations, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have your eye open to say I can probably

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<v Speaker 1>beat out QB one.

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<v Speaker 6>But are you looking at Dak Prescott in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>health saying like, hey, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean that's a different that's a conversation, a

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<v Speaker 3>different conversation. I mean, the contract for Dak has him here,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, ever, but you could look elsewhere and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>is that an aging quarterback too? Of course, guys that

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<v Speaker 3>are out what I mean, bad example, because he's an

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<v Speaker 3>unrestricted free agent. But let's say Aaron Rodgers returns to

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<v Speaker 3>New York. That's example, and then he returns to New York,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there's a second opportunity at the quarterback spot there.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Trey Lance is out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got next up, guarantee. I don't know if Trey

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<v Speaker 3>Lance has earned that opportunity yet. From an NFL wide standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious to see what you think.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so, and I don't think he put

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<v Speaker 5>enough on tape on Sunday to warrant that either. I

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<v Speaker 5>think you guys make good points. When I look at

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<v Speaker 5>Trey Lance. This is a guy who has not played

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of football in his career. When you think

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<v Speaker 5>back to his days in college and in the NFL. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a guy who, simply put is very raw,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why Dallas took him because they wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>see what could happen when they baked him a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit and see what the product was. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>it was an awful product on Sunday, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think that he's just been sitting there all this entire time.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there has been some development during his time here.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you look at that game on Sunday, like

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<v Speaker 5>Patrick said, there was good, there was bad. Easy passes

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<v Speaker 5>like the end zone that he underthrows, you've got to

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<v Speaker 5>make those. You just have to make those. I thought

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<v Speaker 5>there were some instances where he had running room in

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<v Speaker 5>front of him. I mean, all we've talked about with

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<v Speaker 5>adding Trey Lance to the folded quarterback has been using

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<v Speaker 5>his legs.

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<v Speaker 1>As psych he took him the second half.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got six carries for twenty six yards. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he could have easily had fifty to fifty five sixty

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<v Speaker 5>yards in this game if he tucks a couple more

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<v Speaker 5>and takes off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so that QB two opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's here, because I think Cooper

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<v Speaker 5>Rush gives you the better opportunity to win as a

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<v Speaker 5>backup quarterback because he's already done it for you. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not fun football all the time because it's more of

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<v Speaker 5>just to manage the game, push the ball downfield, stick

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<v Speaker 5>to the script type deal. But if it's winning you

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<v Speaker 5>football games, that's what he's done and until he proves

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<v Speaker 5>you otherwise, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Why Philadelphia, and also really.

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<v Speaker 5>Quick unless it's Philadelphia, since.

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<v Speaker 1>That Cooper Rush point. Cooper Rush has already felt what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be on a different team, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he wants to go through that again.

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<v Speaker 3>That didn't happen very well, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's extremely comfortable here, even if there's a change of

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<v Speaker 1>head quotes. The quarterback is still Dak Prescott and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a great relationship, and Cooper Rush is going to

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<v Speaker 1>likely accept the veteran minimum to remain here. So that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds delicious for a front office that's pushing the cap

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<v Speaker 1>issue as something to content with.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also a front office that's trying to prove that

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth round pick that they sent to San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>was worth it at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's there's elements to really trying to prove that

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<v Speaker 1>he would have start.

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<v Speaker 3>Started a long time ago. I agree, trust me.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say I think there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>situations where Trey Lance can really excel. Sure, I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if it's here.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where I am with it. Yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Trey Lance, that's how I feel. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if this is the fit for me right.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of things that add there. I think based

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<v Speaker 3>off of what we saw on Sunday, Trey Lance is

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<v Speaker 3>an NFL quarterback right, Yes, playing and simple, he is

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<v Speaker 3>an NFL quarterback, just not a store not a starter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of and where where we are there's still

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<v Speaker 3>that possibility because there were flashes of it. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>always the athleticism side of things too that I think

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<v Speaker 3>you have to keep in mind. You bring up a

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<v Speaker 3>great point, the timidness to run. I wish Isaiah was

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<v Speaker 3>here for this, because Isaiah was a dual threat quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>in his own right, and he was talking about it

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday when we were watching the game. He was saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they have told him they want to see

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<v Speaker 3>him as a passer. He's like, because when you're a

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<v Speaker 3>running quarterback and you're told all your life going up

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<v Speaker 3>into the NFL, run when you need to run, when

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<v Speaker 3>you need to run, when you need to Then you

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<v Speaker 3>get to the NFL and you face guys that are

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<v Speaker 3>much more athletic than what you've seen in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>and they say, we need you to stop running. Your

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<v Speaker 3>instincts go away. Yeah, there were a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>You go back on film, there was the sact that

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<v Speaker 3>he took where he's statued statued up, but then you

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<v Speaker 3>could see there was a moment, there's a moment in

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<v Speaker 3>his head where the instincts kicked in. He took a step,

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<v Speaker 3>but then he sat down and he sat in it.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are times in that game and you can

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<v Speaker 3>go back and watch it. Go find the film where

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<v Speaker 3>he takes a step and that instinct is there. You

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<v Speaker 3>could see it. Run run, run, run and run. But

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<v Speaker 3>he pulls back and then because his voice is correct,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's being told, we want to see what you

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<v Speaker 3>can do as a pocket passer in the NFL against defenses,

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<v Speaker 3>against pass rush, how do you avoid it? Did a

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<v Speaker 3>great job on the play. The Rico Dattle to avoid

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<v Speaker 3>the pass rush. He was swarmed behind the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 3>had a brilliant move that was Trey Lancel was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the play, and then it just fluttered to

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<v Speaker 3>the ground and it was unfortunate. So that's the microcosm.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could take the entirety of Trey Lance's NFL career,

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<v Speaker 3>both in San Francisco and in Dallas right now, put

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<v Speaker 3>it into one play, it would be that Rico Doubtle play, athleticism, talent, vision,

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of society. But then it just still doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>click and it still doesn't happen. So I'm interested. He's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the more intriguing storylines going into the off

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<v Speaker 3>season and an off season full of storylines. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because he could be one of those guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking at across the NFC playoff put picture right now,

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<v Speaker 3>how many of those guys that are currently quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 3>a playoff picture right now are thrown away by their

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<v Speaker 3>not original teams, but other teams along the way. You've

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<v Speaker 3>got Jared Goff as the number one seed. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Darnold as a possible MVP. Conversation you've got Baker Mayfield,

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<v Speaker 3>who was on the Carolina Panthers backing up Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 3>like a year and a half ago. Like, there's all

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<v Speaker 3>of these things that are playing a factor. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if I'm ready to give up on Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 3>just yet. And he shouldn't be as a team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's shown he's worth further development. Yes, as a player.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm Trey Lance, I just got to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a potentially better fit some world and.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe a better price too.

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<v Speaker 6>If they're telling him not to run at all costs,

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<v Speaker 6>I think that you're cutting him off the knees. You're

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<v Speaker 6>selling that is just that second.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost jumped out of the press box window, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, you gotta be kidding me. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the green there, and if he takes that, he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably in the one yard line and his fourth and short.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've seen how that happened. But nonetheless, maybe you scored,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case, don't stat up in that situation. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Go back and look at the film.

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<v Speaker 1>He stuttered and then stood back up.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're taking away one of the reasons you have

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<v Speaker 6>him on the team. One of the reasons he exists

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<v Speaker 6>as a player.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason he was the second most impressive quarterback in

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<v Speaker 3>that game was because look at what Marcus Mariota did

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<v Speaker 3>with his life. Came out right playing in Marcus Mariota.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Arrows, He made some great throws.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't get me wrong, he was definitely playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Play of his game was the fourth and one

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<v Speaker 3>that he took off.

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<v Speaker 1>The yeah, that's what you can do with Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 1>is basically so Mariota versus Tree Lance. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>battle of free agency backups. That's basically because they were

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<v Speaker 1>both battling to try to make themselves valuable.

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<v Speaker 3>And Marcus mariotas Marcus, Yes you did, Marcus. Marcus Mariota

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<v Speaker 3>is a QB two with with starter upside, whereas Trey

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<v Speaker 3>Lance is a QB two with developmental upside. That's part

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<v Speaker 3>of what perfect I looked at it out of this.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's take our first break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago Bears reported to have asked for permission to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to Mike McCarthy. They said, we're not going to wait

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<v Speaker 3>until this January fourteenth deadline. We would like to throw

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<v Speaker 5>Now, yeah, make a decision.

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<v Speaker 6>Is what January sixth and they're deciding to invade our building?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, n goes the star Baby. Is that

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<v Speaker 5>the first time that's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not any other time that that could but the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what they did. They sent an insurrection of sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>If you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to talk to our head guy for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, I don't even know where.

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<v Speaker 1>To go for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see if the Cowboys use this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this window of exclusivity to try to hammer out a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>If they decided they're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To keep away, they accept it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I wouldn't say so, because if you're even considering

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<v Speaker 1>keeping him around, you you use this window in your

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<v Speaker 1>your favor. You don't just let someone invade and give

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<v Speaker 1>him for me? No, no, no, you wait until Jamiary fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us have our conversation. I know you do, because

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<v Speaker 1>he a decision made.

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<v Speaker 3>Like yes, yesterday or last week or already.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm with you, and he's on record saying that

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<v Speaker 6>would have happened last week.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say, and we've said this on this

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<v Speaker 1>on this panel before, when I was naming some teams

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<v Speaker 1>that when I said free agency is a two way street,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for players but for coaches alike. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>for as much as the Cowboys need to decide on

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<v Speaker 1>miche McCarthy, Mike McCarthy needs to decide on the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a Jason Garrett situation. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett situation where there was no interest from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Any other other third said that as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>head coaching position is concerned, this is different. Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>has actual value. He's coming. He re established a culture

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys. Playoff clature didn't get reestablished fair enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, But three twelve and five seasons becomes one

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<v Speaker 1>of the winningest coaches in Cowboys franchise history. He has

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl ring shining on his finger. He's shown

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<v Speaker 1>that he can hit the reset button for your franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever your franchise might be. That's going to be very

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<v Speaker 1>intriguing for teams like Jacksonville, New Orleans and the Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just makes sense for me. The New Orleans Saints.

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<v Speaker 1>He has history there, He's a former oc there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he would deal with what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in Jacksonville because Trent balk is still out there

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just a toxic situation. But the Bears intrigued me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why that was the lead horse for a

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<v Speaker 1>team that would come after McCarthy in my eyes that

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<v Speaker 1>I said a few weeks ago. Number one, it puts

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<v Speaker 1>him a geographically closer to home. His family is still

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<v Speaker 1>in green Bay still, right. Point Number two is that

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<v Speaker 1>we all know how his time in Green Bay ended.

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<v Speaker 1>This would give him an opportunity to play against the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears twice a year for the next several years. Right

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had a court a thought. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I said it to you, Temmy, I said it to

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<v Speaker 1>someone if in fact the Mikes are a package deal,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy and Mike Zimmer To that same point, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Zimmer would be going back to the NFC North and

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<v Speaker 1>he would get to exercise a vendetta against the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings for multiple times a year for the next years.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a very intriguing standpoint. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>the take of the Chicago native. What what what's the

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<v Speaker 1>temperature of your home city as far as possibly bringing

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy in.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's cold. Here's the thing when I look at this,

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<v Speaker 5>a couple things. First of all, the Bears have requested

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<v Speaker 5>twelve head coaching yes, right now. Yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 5>wide net.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a list. If you want me to listen,

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<v Speaker 3>they're turning over everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I would love for you to listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So these are the other interviews that the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>have requested. Brian Flores Vikings defensive coordinator, Aaron Glenn Lions

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<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinator that has been accepted, Ben Johnson, offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>for the Lions, Mike Kafka, Giants OC Mike McCarthy, Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>head coach Todd Monkin, Raven's offensive coordinator Drew Petsig, Cardinals

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<v Speaker 3>OC David Shaw, former Stanford head coach and current Broncos

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<v Speaker 3>executive Arthur Smith, Steelers offensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, Dolphins defensive

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<v Speaker 3>coordinator Mike Vrabel, former Titans head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>That one has also been scheduled. Yeah, so I think

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<v Speaker 5>Ben Johnson's probably the leader in the clubhouse there. When

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<v Speaker 5>when I look at this situation, I understand why the

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<v Speaker 5>Cowboys right now aren't letting, aren't accepting that because he's

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he's still under that period until the fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they'd be doing Mike McCarthy a massive disservice

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<v Speaker 5>if they were to go through this next seven days

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<v Speaker 5>and not have any intention of bringing him back. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not saying that's what's happening. I'm just saying that's something

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<v Speaker 5>to keep an eye on. So the fact that nothing

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<v Speaker 5>has agree more time, the fact that nothing has been accepted,

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<v Speaker 5>tells me at least that there's interest in retaining Mike

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<v Speaker 5>McCarthy's head coach. So the other part of this is

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at the fit in Chicago, my thing is,

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<v Speaker 5>are the Bears going to be willing to bring somebody

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<v Speaker 5>who frankly owned them for a majority of a decade

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<v Speaker 5>plus to try and turn this frand to try to

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<v Speaker 5>turn the franchise around. I think Mike McCarthy would be

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<v Speaker 5>a good fit in Chicago because he's he's got a

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<v Speaker 5>track record of developing quarterbacks. Kali Williams call a guy

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<v Speaker 5>and right, he's gotten comparisons to Aaron Rodgers. He's said

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<v Speaker 5>he's idolized Aaron Rodgers and how he tries to play

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<v Speaker 5>the game. So that's there, But I'm not so sure

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<v Speaker 5>that Mike McCarthy is very high on the list of

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<v Speaker 5>candidates for them at this point in time, because when

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<v Speaker 5>you think about the Bears in the past too, they've

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<v Speaker 5>always been a defense heavy franchise. That's been their bread

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<v Speaker 5>and butter. They want to play good defense and they

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<v Speaker 5>want to run the football.

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<v Speaker 3>How does that work for them since it hasn't worked

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<v Speaker 3>well at all?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Like I said, I think Ben Johnson's the

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<v Speaker 5>leader in the clubhouse, but they're also just casting a

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<v Speaker 5>wide net. So it doesn't shock me at all that

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<v Speaker 5>McCarthy's on that list. And I'm sure there will be

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<v Speaker 5>other teams that throw their hat in the Mike McCarthy circle,

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<v Speaker 5>But at least from right now, with nothing at all

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<v Speaker 5>being said about we've granted Mike McCarthy the permission to

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<v Speaker 5>do this interview. That tells me that there's interest in

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<v Speaker 5>bringing him back.

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<v Speaker 6>It just sounds like they're turning over every rock, which

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<v Speaker 6>is what they should do when you're in that position

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<v Speaker 6>of need, when you're in position of trying to rebrand

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<v Speaker 6>the identity of your team. Possibly, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 6>great way to go about it. But you said, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Mike McCarthy basically owned Chicago Bears for a

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<v Speaker 6>good time whenever he was with the Packers. The Cowboys

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<v Speaker 6>were in a similar situation too.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he won a.

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<v Speaker 6>Super Bowl here h and Aaron Rodgers and the Packers

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<v Speaker 6>did a lot of the unkind things to the Dallas

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<v Speaker 6>Cowboys with Mike McCarthy as coach. So we were sort

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<v Speaker 6>of in a situation where we're like, Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 6>can't beat them, get them, Yeah, yeah, bring them on,

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<v Speaker 6>bring them on. But then again, you have to consider

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<v Speaker 6>Mike McCarthy's record against the Packers since leaving the Packers

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<v Speaker 6>has not been great. Man, He's not performed very well,

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<v Speaker 6>especially a certain wild card game from last season.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk about this, stop it and you

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<v Speaker 5>can make an argument that the NFC and NORSE is

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<v Speaker 5>the toughest division.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes right now, now, yes see, But that's you got

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<v Speaker 3>to keep that in mind too. In a different way, thing,

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<v Speaker 3>Ebb and flow in the NFL all the time right now,

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<v Speaker 3>right this second, the Vikings, the Lions and the Packers

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<v Speaker 3>are just all juggernauts, and they're beating up on each other,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're beating up on the Bears and they're beating

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<v Speaker 3>up on all the other teams in the NFC. But

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<v Speaker 3>within four to five years, when you've got a fully

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<v Speaker 3>developed Caleb Williams, you've got a fresh roster of young

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<v Speaker 3>talent and guys that you can go get. They have

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<v Speaker 3>some salary crap cap room to keep that in mind,

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys salary, that's what it is in Dallas right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's.

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<v Speaker 3>So the fact that Mike has already been told by

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<v Speaker 3>the front office the same way Steven Jones has told

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else, we don't have money to spend this offseason,

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<v Speaker 3>which is true. They are strapped in terms of the

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<v Speaker 3>salary cap. When you get to the salary cap in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not nearly as bad. It's not perfect either, it's

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<v Speaker 3>about halfway, but you've got some room to move. You've

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<v Speaker 3>got a young quarterback and at some point you will

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<v Speaker 3>be that juggernaut.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know they don't have in Chicago. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a an established all pro quarterback which some years

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<v Speaker 1>left not yet but not yet that he's built to

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yoman's always say it hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't happened, but he's built two of them. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to give him credit. He built dac first got

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<v Speaker 3>into an All Pro fair and he helped build h Aaron.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean they have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's there, Michael Parsons, Eric Keenan Allen, who's the on

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<v Speaker 3>over show?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they have they have a couple of pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, and what we're doing is, yeah, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it from a POV from McCarthy right now, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're saying right now. So if you're McCarthy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these are some things that you're waning. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he would wave off Chicago because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have as many of the cornerstone pieces as the Cowboys have.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a rightful conversation for a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>has so many years in the league, and you have

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to start wondering at this point, this is fair wonder

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>how many more years McCarthy wants to coach in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Right So maybe he feels like he and this is

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<v Speaker 1>just speculative, maybe he feels like he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a hard reset with a particular team or any

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>particular team. So these are all things that McCarthy is

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<v Speaker 1>going to mole in his head, is what I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying, and he goes back to what Tommy said, that's

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<v Speaker 3>this is all speculative.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's even the choice in Chicago, Ben Johnson and

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Glenn, that's one A and one B on anyone's

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<v Speaker 1>list who's looking for him for sure, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>rest includes McCarthy is like in the group of the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>Tier B, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Mike still got a lot left in the tank,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think he takes pride in being a builder.

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<v Speaker 5>He talked about that postgame after Washington. He really enjoys

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<v Speaker 5>building a program from the ground up. You could argue

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<v Speaker 5>he did that in Green Bay. Obviously, they're one of

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<v Speaker 5>the historic franchises in the NFL. The Bears are too.

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<v Speaker 5>The issue with the Bears is they've whiffed on their

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<v Speaker 5>head coaching hires, they've whiffed on their general manager hires,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just kind of been a mess. There's never

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<v Speaker 5>been alignment, I don't think in Chicago, and some of

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<v Speaker 5>the draft choices that they've made, like this past year,

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<v Speaker 5>taking you know, Rama Donze instead of maybe there's an

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<v Speaker 5>offensive a lignement on the board who could have helped

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<v Speaker 5>you out there. They have the worst offensive line in

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<v Speaker 5>the NFL this year, maybe one of the worst offensive

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<v Speaker 5>lines time. I mean, it was just terrible to watch

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<v Speaker 5>the Caleb Williams was one of, if not the most

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<v Speaker 5>sacked quarterbacks in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the most.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was a record to Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think was was he.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he was the most sack.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the Regardless regardless of the case, they've got to

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<v Speaker 5>draft better, there's got to be alignment. It doesn't they

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<v Speaker 5>just have to hit this head coaching higher or else.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just going to be the same sort of cycle

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<v Speaker 5>that they've gotten themselves into, where you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 5>your quarterback who is dealing with a new head coach

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<v Speaker 5>every two years. He's dealing with a new GM every year,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's just, you know, not sustainable for an NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>Williams was sacked sixteen more times than any other quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>this year. So you're thinking all time, all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, now we're plv in from Chicago. If I'm Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love how they're handling it. As far as due

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>diligence cast a wide knit, that's just the wise thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But the possibility of having a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>cripple the Detroit Lions by pulling away either Aaron Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>or Ben Johnson. Blank you blank checked that. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>just slapped Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 5>A blank checking Johnson should get over and you know

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<v Speaker 5>they've got the personnel I think in Detroit and Johnson done,

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<v Speaker 5>what has he done?

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<v Speaker 1>What is he doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Scoring forty?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think Ben Jonson, he plays that look really impactful.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, well, I think part of the reason for

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<v Speaker 5>Ben Johnson's success too is the personnel that he's got.

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<v Speaker 5>But that is credit to to him. The way Detroit

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<v Speaker 5>has built their roster through the draft and through free agency.

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<v Speaker 3>He turned him on the Saint Brown, a fourth round

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<v Speaker 3>pick into one of the top five or six receivers

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's what happens when you've got alignment from the

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<v Speaker 5>top down. And so that's what you need for really

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 5>for any NFL franchise, you're owner, general manager, and head

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<v Speaker 5>coaching to all be on the same page and I'll

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<v Speaker 5>be moving forward together when it comes to personnel, coaching,

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<v Speaker 5>hires and things of that.

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 3>And I could hear so many killboys fans right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Allow me to megaphone what fans think you're saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel that's the situation here in Dallas right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now they're in alignment.

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<v Speaker 5>If they bring Michae McCarthy back, that shows me that

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 5>there is alignment. Yes, that there is alment sense of

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 5>I believe in what you're doing. I believe in what

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<v Speaker 5>your scheme looks like. I believe in what your personnel

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 5>decisions look like. That that would be my proof of

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 5>there's a line, because you'd be going on to year

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<v Speaker 5>with six or year year six of the same program,

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<v Speaker 5>the same way of doing things, and for a majority

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<v Speaker 5>of the same personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the most part they have been in alignment,

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>which is why they were twelve and five, twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>five twelve five exactly align. I think what this season

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<v Speaker 1>did was expose the the part that was misaligned, which

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>is personnel decessions right depth. Jerry Jones himself, who does

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of spaghetti talking right, was very definitive when

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>asked after the game after the finale if he regrets

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<v Speaker 1>the personnel decisions not giving Mike McCarthy the roster that

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>he feels Mike because should have had. He said yes,

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>he said that's fair. So when you hear the owner

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>and general manager admitting that the personnel decisions could have

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>been better. Maybe they could have attacked free agency a

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 1>little bit better, Maybe they could have done this, could

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>have done that. I think that's the misalignment. So when

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I pose the question for the fans of is it

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like Detroit or can it be like Detroit where there's

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>this straight line going down with no wiggle room Right now,

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 1>there's too much wiggle room in that one capacity. I think,

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>what's the word I'm looking for? I think culturally, I

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>think strategically, I think they're all on the same page,

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're on the same direction and they're moving in lockstep.

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>But there's that disconnect with personnel as far as who

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy would want to see added to the team

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>versus who is not added to the team, and then

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>who's added to the team instead of who Mike McCarthy

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>might want added to the team.

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<v Speaker 6>And if they aren't aligned, they will be much aligned.

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>But you can how long did you sit on that?

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<v Speaker 5>You're sitting on it for a while. To wrap up

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 5>that point, you can fix that this offseason, Yes you can,

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 5>you definitely.

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Can, But that's that's that's a promisory note. Yeah, well,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>because that's what you would be signing for Mike McCarthy.

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So if McCarthy decides if you want him back, and

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he decides to come back, he's basically asking you to

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<v Speaker 1>sign a promisory note saying, when free agency and the

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<v Speaker 1>draft arrive, this is what this is what I want.

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Give me what I want, Bautista, give me what I want.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's that's when he gets what he wants.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And maybe and even though the five seasons, maybe if

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>he got I there's come on, I come on, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to show this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I want Will McClay to get what he wants. In

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<v Speaker 3>terms of the draft person the draft, I could care

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 3>less what Mike McCarthy wants from a player personnel standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>as long as he's able to coach him and get

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 3>him ready to go. There's been too much I think

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>over the last two years coach intervention in the draft process.

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 3>But don't talk about that on the draft shows. At

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>some point down the line, like balance wise, totally fine. Yeah,

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 3>there's Draft eleven. I want if if you're bringing Will

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 3>McClay back, and you're bringing him back for the long

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 3>haul and Mike McCarthy's back, that's fine. I've already been

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 3>on record to say it would be a mistake to

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of Mike McCarthy. I stand by that right now.

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he should have the same say that

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 3>he's had the last couple of years in terms of

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 3>the draft process. Fair enough, that's where I record.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think I get.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking balance because here's what balance. I get what balance

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>gets you a safety position being revamped because of a

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>guy like Dan Quinn. Sure, dan Quinn came in. Before

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.919
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn, Cowboys couldn't get it at safety. Dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>comes in, he gets them to reevaluate the imports of

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<v Speaker 1>the safety position. That's what being in alignment compromise looks like.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>When you don't compromise and it's just only giving the

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>scouts what they want and the coaches can't gel with

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that personnel, you have a problem. And vice versa. Can

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>give the coaches everything they want, but the scouts aren't

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>really lought in.

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<v Speaker 6>But then you'll see a lot of what Mike McCarthy's

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<v Speaker 6>done where it's like I don't know what to do

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 6>with this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, inactive Trey Lance, see, but I mean ceedee lamb

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<v Speaker 3>was that was a scout pick that Ceedee Lamb was

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 3>a Scout pick. Michael Parsons was a Scout pick. Marvin

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Overshown was a win and a scout let them pick.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 3>There have been some other picks that haven't happened. Mike

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 3>McCarthy wanted to run twelve personnel. That's why you have

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Luke Schoomaker in the second round, plain and simple. They

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 3>wanted some of those other guys that are above them.

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 3>You have Luke Schoomaker because Mike McCarthy wanted Luke Schoomaker.

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 3>At that point, you've got all these other picks along

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 3>the way. Trey Smith scout pick that was not a

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy pick. That was a scout pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of those things that in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Mike McCarthy in terms of what he can

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 3>bring and make and mold out of what he's given

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 3>in terms of a football team. We saw that down

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 3>the stretch of last year and that's where my respect

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 3>lines with Mike McCarthy. However, I'm reluctant to give him

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 3>the keys to the entire busy. And that's what I

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 3>was just.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, we're talking about this entire show alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody in the middle.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody, Okay, all right, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 6>Forty five minutes snapshot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not forty five minutes, don't We're now.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>You kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the next show that we're on has me

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<v Speaker 3>and Tommy on it, so I guess we're just hurting

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves at that point. All right, Uh? Priority the Wolves? Yes, Cowboys?

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Wait, baby, what's your.

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<v Speaker 3>Priority this offseason? What's the first domino that needs to fall?

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not talking about coach or locol McClay, so

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 3>wipe those off the board. We've talked about those enough.

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 3>What's the ones thing outside of front office and or

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<v Speaker 3>coaching moves that needs to happen?

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<v Speaker 6>Retain George Lewis resigned Geordan Lewis as soon aceptually to steal,

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 6>to steal a phrase from my buddy Patrick here. To me,

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<v Speaker 6>Jordan Lewis is one of the beating hearts of your defense.

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 6>You don't have de Marvin overshown for the foreseeable future,

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 6>not until late twenty five, according to the Marvin Overstone.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, Jordan Lewis is giving you everything he deserves,

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<v Speaker 6>the bag he deserves to be on this team. You

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<v Speaker 6>do not want to lose a guy like Jordan Lewis.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, that is the guy that will truly get

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<v Speaker 6>you where you want it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not gonna happen until the league year right

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 3>free agency starts, because he's gonna see what.

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<v Speaker 6>And he deserves out there. He deserves to. But just

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<v Speaker 6>make him priority.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one way you could keep Jordan Lewis and

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<v Speaker 1>Osa Odigi Zuwa. By the way, this is my number one.

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Extend Micah and do it quickly. You can leave everything

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, exceptionally right now. Michael Parsons in his fifth

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>year option, he said to hit the Cowboys cap for

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>over twenty one million dollars per over the cap. If

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<v Speaker 1>you extend Michael Parsons right now, you not only don't

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 1>suffer that twenty one million dollar hit, but you get

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>sixteen point one million dollars in savings towards your salary cap.

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 1>They're going to figure out the coming see but that

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>hopefully so because right now the Cotton Bowl, at the

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Cotton they're gonna they're in the sweet together at the

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Cotton Bowl. And Jerry said he and Michael, yes, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Get the deal done overs.

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<v Speaker 3>In Ohio state, Hey, get the deal done.

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Both of their schools. Everybody wants to watch Texas.

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not Arkansas and it's not Penn States.

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<v Speaker 1>Disagree, Yeah, get the deal done over some nachos by

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<v Speaker 1>all means. But currently the Cowboys have seventeen million dollars

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 1>in available cap space that will roll over to twenty

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty five if you get another sixteen million dollars toward

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that by extending Michael Parsons. This is money that goes

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>potentially goes to Osa, potentially goes to Jordan Lewis and

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:49.399
<v Speaker 1>some of the other guys that you want to retain.

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>You have twenty two unrestricted free agents coming up, and

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not just not just Jags, not just the name, these

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>are these are dogs, Okay, So you want to get

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that on Chauncey Ghost and being another name that comes

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to mind. So for me, extend Michael Parsons and get

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<v Speaker 1>him done right now. And I love what Michael said

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>in that he doesn't want to be in the way.

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Michael wants to get his deal done quickly because he

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>wants that money to go towards helping to build the team.

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 6>So let's hope his agent feels that way.

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take a moment here and play super duper

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Devil's advocate because I do not want this to happen.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I want to preface this, but it has been a conversation.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 3>There was even an NFL Network report about it. Would

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 3>you ever consider trading michaeh It have to.

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Be the herschel Walker trade. It have to be just

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>on I want your soul, like if I if I'm

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.439
<v Speaker 1>trading Michael Parsons, I want your soul. And if if

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that's if that's a non starter for you, don't even

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 1>call it. Don't even call me.

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 3>So just play play along here. What would it take?

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>What would be what would have to the starter conversation

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 1>is two first round picks. Okay, So that's that starts.

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 3>That's not the end.

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>That's not the end, okay, because you're gonna throw in

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe another mid rounder and probably a player of my

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:04.240
<v Speaker 1>picks within reason.

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 3>So okay, So you said no very quickly? Are you

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 3>completely out?

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 5>Look a look at look at what happened to this

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 5>defense when he came back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I agree. That's why I said, I want your

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>soul wants us to play along.

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to. I'm trying to play Devil's advocates. I'm

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 5>not playing at all.

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:21.359
<v Speaker 3>That's not fair.

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 6>You can't three ones and Patrick Mahomes.

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 3>We'll see. There's nobody with multiple ones this year, at

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 3>least at the moment.

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, I want your soul, but Cal wants

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>me to play along. If I'm to play along, that's

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>my price. But I'm not playing along in real life.

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, No, Let's say I'm trying to think. I

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 3>don't even know who would who would have Lawrence Taylor.

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Let's say Jacksonville. Jacksonville is trying to make a statement.

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 3>They've already got one edg Rusher and Walker on the

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 3>outside that they feel really confident in. They've got a quarterback.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 3>They don't have to have their fifth overall draft pick

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 3>this year. Jacksonville comes, they offer you five this year,

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 3>they offer you two future first round picks.

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 5>Would you do it?

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 3>Would you think about it? That's three first round picks

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 3>and the top five for sure this year, and you

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>can't current you get to keep twelve too, where you

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 3>picked Micah back in twenty twenty one.

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, my answer is still no, but I haven't hung

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>up the phone yet either.

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what about those three first and we'll throw REI

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 3>who's their top received? I don't even know, so no,

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm there, Okay, second receiver, they're not trading him Christian Kirk.

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they throw in Christian Kirk to a veteran receiver

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 3>that you could possibly use.

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, okay, I don't like this game anymore.

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 3>I agree. I don't want to just extend him.

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Get the money, use the money in and let's cook.

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Where's your priority, Tommy.

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 5>I think they'd have a good draft when they When

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 5>I look back at this past year draft, there's some

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 5>good picks there. Cooper BB had a fantastic season. I

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.400
<v Speaker 5>like what Marshaw Neeland did when healthy. Marys Lee if

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 5>has got a really bright future. Still unclear of what

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 5>Tyler Guidon looks like. Yes, still very unclear on what

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 5>that looks like. I'd like to see him get a

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 5>full training camp in, be fully healthy, and it might

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 5>be you know, shuffling him around and seeing if maybe

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 5>there's a spot replays better. Bottom line is, I'm a

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 5>believer in that you put your best five out there, yes,

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 5>regardless of you can't be too strict and assigning certain spots.

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 5>You got to have your best five out there. So

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:39.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking at a better draft this time around and

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 5>seeing if not to again not to say that this

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 5>past draft was something you just completely dump away It's

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.800
<v Speaker 5>only been one season, and you know, Ryan Flinoy, Nathan Thomas,

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Justin Rogers, still Kaylin Carson even still have time around

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 5>to develop. He is back, still have time to prove something.

0:49:55.600 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 5>But after these rookie seasons, you know, only three of

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 5>your picks really standing out. I think you got to

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 5>be better this time, and all with some level of

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 5>question mark exactly exactly, which is typical for for for

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 5>rookie Harry typical. Again, don't don't take this as me

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 5>being overly critical, but I think you got to be

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 5>much stronger.

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:16.800
<v Speaker 3>This time, by the way, Marshaw naland scout pick and

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Marris leaf out scout pick. So keep that in mind.

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>We all have that conversation for the twenty twenty three

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>draft class. What was that the twenty twenty three draft class.

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested, not now, but down the road scout picks

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>his coaching pigs because I class did. Yeah.

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we can talk about that all right, more draft

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:39.399
<v Speaker 3>talk next, right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, day tune. We've got

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:41.839
<v Speaker 3>the Draft Show. First episode will be out if you're

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 3>listening to this in post, it'll probably already be out

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 3>on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. But we're going to the

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Draft Show. Tommy Yursh is going to be on the

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 3>Draft Show this year, maybe looking forward to it. Man,

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm really another member of the Talking Cowboys family. Nick

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Harris returns. You've got Brian broad Us, You've got Foch Lombardi, god,

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Zach Wolschew, Bobby Belt, We've got the It's basically the

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Avengers of Draft Cut. It's gonna be fun, So let's

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 3>get it going. We've got the Draft Show coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>But that does it for us here on Talking Cowboys,

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