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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Rashwan McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of

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Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.

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Speaker 1: People always talk about your purpose or gifts. If you

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Speaker 1: living your dreams. My desk guests or Bobby Brown, who

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Speaker 1: is an award entertainer, producer, entrepreneur, and arthur and A

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Speaker 1: Together their partners in Brown Ribbon Entertainment, they serve as

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Speaker 1: A E Network. Biography Bobby Brown and Bobby Brown. Every

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Speaker 1: Little Step. Today we'll be discussing the four episodes that

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Speaker 1: recently viewed. Biography Bobby Brown. Please, Welcome to Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass. The very Talented duo, A power couple Bobby

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Speaker 1: Brown and Alicia et Rich Brown. Welcome to Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Abouster Class. Hello Sean having us. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I want to see, Bobby. You know

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Speaker 1: I would like to keep that energy up. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's about energy with you. Man. When the last time

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Speaker 1: it was good man, it was really really good. Brother.

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Speaker 1: But this this whole series, Alicia, when you talk about it,

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Speaker 1: management side kind of worked real uh seamlessly, which is

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Speaker 1: We just have to find balance. Like everything in life,

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Speaker 1: a natural progression for us to start businesses together, the

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Speaker 1: Bobby Round foodline as you mentioned, you know, and um

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Speaker 1: we do everything together. We um bring our best tools

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Speaker 1: she was saying continually in her conversation that she spoken

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Speaker 1: And then she says management, which we know it. Early

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Speaker 1: about that, Bobby. Well, in the beginning of my career,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Barrell always called you the relationship that I have

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Speaker 1: but in our house we act like it's stage all

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Speaker 1: the time. We have kids that love to dance. You

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, Bob, Come on, Bob, Come on. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't have anything to sign ahead. I love it,

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Speaker 1: but I love it. You know it's different for me

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Speaker 1: in front of the camera. But I'll tell you that

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Speaker 1: Bobby is as entertaining as ever, and you guys just

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Speaker 1: love it. It's endearing, it's intimate. You know, it's uh

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Speaker 1: celebrated and uh we don't really we don't really uh

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Speaker 1: you know say anything is off limits really basically, So

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a PG. You know, it's a family

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Speaker 1: uh something for everybody. Well, I want to thank both

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Speaker 1: of y'all. You know again, it's always a blessing. When

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Speaker 1: you're part of history, brother, you really are. You're part

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Speaker 1: of my life. You're part of every of Americana pop culture.

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Speaker 1: R and b um. If you know somebody, you know,

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Speaker 1: I forgot we when you did um. We work together

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Speaker 1: the with the Cooper Gooden Jr. Beyonce is Steve Hard

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Speaker 1: We did that movie together with you. This brother right here,

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Speaker 1: connect right here, y'all. I have known him a long time,

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Speaker 1: a long time. And keep winning, brother and you two

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Speaker 1: and you keep him well. He's supposed to be balanced,

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Speaker 1: Tolicia because you're a special as well. Thank you. Oh

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Speaker 1: you welcome on, girl. I gotta get him of that season.

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Speaker 1: Come on. I want to buy what. I want to

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Speaker 1: sign it. My wife loved it, by the way, and

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Speaker 1: I love you. Okay, we got you some coming thank you.

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversation master Class, please go to money Making

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more money Making Conversations Masterclass

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Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. You are now tuned into the money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm

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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your Amen

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Speaker 1: of the Inspiration. I sat down with dancer and actor

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Speaker 1: sky at Vester Black. He shared how Debbie Allen pushed

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Speaker 1: him what I used to ask for the Rod gry

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Speaker 1: um Ms. Allen was the artist and director and choreographer

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Speaker 1: her and she slipped at me and she said, honey,

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Speaker 1: you're not And I said, now you're not. That's not me.

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Speaker 1: She said, honey, you don't know who you are yet.

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Speaker 1: And she was so right from the beginning. She took

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Speaker 1: me under her wing and she gave me parts in

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Speaker 1: her stage. But it became this kind of like oh

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Speaker 1: this is cool again. With the training and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: I started to find this kind of I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: it became an obsession for me. You can listen to

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Speaker 1: this full interview with sky at Vester Black is available

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Speaker 1: on money Making Conversation dot com. Now let's return to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Welcome to Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation Master Class. I'm your host, ra Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I recognized that we all have from definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.

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Speaker 1: Mine has inspired people to accomplish their goals and live

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Speaker 1: their very best life. It's time to stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stories to start writing your own. People always

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Speaker 1: My next just is truly a dreamer. She's there's a

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Speaker 1: dream in everyge coop. She is the executive chef, owner

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Speaker 1: and founder of pre Relicious ice Cream. Criminal Lisius if

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Speaker 1: you don't know, Criminally in the news a lot lately

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Speaker 1: in a very positive way, but also she wants to

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Speaker 1: respond to some things that have been on social media.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly is about trust, and she trust and

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Speaker 1: believes that, you know, there's a just a purpose is

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Speaker 1: what she's doing in her life. I've invited on Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation master Class to tell our story to get

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Speaker 1: us updated. Welcome to the show. Executive chef Liz Rogers.

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Speaker 1: How are you? Are you looking good? Nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: Where are your based in? What's it the you're based in? So?

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Speaker 1: I'm based here in Cincinnati, Ohio. So I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: And the whole brand of Creme Malicious, how did that

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Speaker 1: get started? I'm an executive chef and restaurant tour by trade,

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Speaker 1: So Cremelitious actually came from all the desserts that we

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Speaker 1: made homemade inside the restaurant and they were actually just

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Speaker 1: turned into ice cream desserts. So, so when I hear

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Speaker 1: things like slap your mama, you know, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the corn Poe, the sweep potato pie, all these things

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Speaker 1: are just Southern favorites. How did you manage to create really?

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Speaker 1: You know, because some people have versions of this, but

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Speaker 1: George tastes a little bit different and a lot better

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Speaker 1: than your competitors. How is that? I think it has

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Speaker 1: a great deal to do with me being a chef

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Speaker 1: and Criminalitious is like Disney where the storytellers. Uh, each

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Speaker 1: point is it's very authentic. It's about real times, real people,

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Speaker 1: it's about family. Um, it's an extremely authentic brand. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It really takes you back to childhood memories just when

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Speaker 1: times were better, you know, when we really didn't have

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Speaker 1: a worry or care in the world, where we can

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Speaker 1: be friends and and we can play until the street

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Speaker 1: lights come on, and you know, just all of those

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Speaker 1: you know, going to church and coming home and having

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Speaker 1: family dinners and and just waiting for the best part

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Speaker 1: of the dinner, which would be the dessert. Desserts always first,

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Speaker 1: and it's always the best and it's always the most

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Speaker 1: exciting part about eating. So I think that, um, we

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Speaker 1: really stand out just because each each one of the

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Speaker 1: pints they have a story, um that can really resonate

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Speaker 1: with just just an average person. Now, how did it

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Speaker 1: all start? Because I know, we know right now your

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Speaker 1: social media's blowing up. You know, there's a little controversy

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Speaker 1: around the Waltmont launching another ice cream called June tenth.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, how did you get

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Speaker 1: in the ice cream business? I've gotten the ice cream

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Speaker 1: business because I love I love food, I love desserts,

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Speaker 1: I love sweets, so I'd rather eat sweets than than

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Speaker 1: than regular food. And just really from just owning my

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Speaker 1: own restaurants and just being innovative, I pride myself on

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Speaker 1: being extremely innovative. Cremlicious is more than a dessert. Is

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Speaker 1: absolutely an experience. So we do take fresh bake pastries

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Speaker 1: from the South, um for generations of family owned recipes,

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Speaker 1: and we baked them in their entirety and they're combined

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Speaker 1: in the pint. So I really wanted in Alamo pint

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Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. I didn't want the consumer

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Speaker 1: to have to choose. They can have the best of

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Speaker 1: both worlds. And really really being innovative with the flavors

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Speaker 1: and the brand names and where the actual dessert originated from. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that was extremely important to me as well too, for

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Speaker 1: it to be a conversation piece. Now, now your brand

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Speaker 1: was out there doing well, you got picked up in

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Speaker 1: other stories besides Walmart, You in Target, you and other

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Speaker 1: stories that are competitors of Target and Walmart, but more

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Speaker 1: importantly Kroger's your Kroger stores. I know, I actually walked

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Speaker 1: were walking down the ice cream and I looked over

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Speaker 1: to my right. Now's how religious as a while you're

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Speaker 1: here too, So you know, a lot of as they say,

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Speaker 1: a level brand stores. Which is which is? Which is

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Speaker 1: amazing for a new product? What is? What is your

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Speaker 1: testimony or test us a statement when I tell you

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Speaker 1: you're in these high level stores. And you know, also,

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Speaker 1: if I'm missing any stores, please mention them, because I

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Speaker 1: don't want to upset any of your other clients. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're We're We're in Walmart, of course. Uh, We're in Kroger,

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Speaker 1: We're in Mire, Uh, We're in Target, Jungle Gyms, We're

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Speaker 1: all over the country. It's the national brand now. And

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Speaker 1: uh it's been a really amazing opportunity for crem Malicious

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Speaker 1: and the actual brand we have of Um, it's not

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Speaker 1: the easiest being an African American woman and minority ice

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Speaker 1: cream manufacturer at any rate. You know, Uh, cre Malicious

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Speaker 1: is one of the first and only African American ice

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Speaker 1: cream manufacturers and mass production in the world today. So

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Speaker 1: I really kind of set out to do this mostly

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Speaker 1: because I understood that there was just definitely a need,

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Speaker 1: there was this huge hole in the category. I felt um,

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Speaker 1: that's really overcome by these huge giants that's you know

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Speaker 1: in the world that you know has been here since

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Speaker 1: we were kids. And you know, for me, I you know,

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Speaker 1: it's cheers to the underdog. I just want other entrepreneurs

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Speaker 1: to understand that if they have a dream, they need

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Speaker 1: to just go for their dream and not be afraid

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Speaker 1: to take risks and you know, follow your passion and

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00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: as you always say, lead with your gifts. And I

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: really do believe in that, and I do I do

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Speaker 1: seek that as much as possible to be an inspiration

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Speaker 1: so that we can make room for other people to

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Speaker 1: be on the show as well. But I also know

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Speaker 1: that if opportunities do not come to you knocking on

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Speaker 1: your door, that it's time that we understand that we

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Speaker 1: have to go out and we have to create our

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Speaker 1: own opportunities and to not be afraid to call up

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Speaker 1: some of these retailers and say, hey, could you get

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Speaker 1: me a shot? And if they say no, you gotta

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Speaker 1: keep trying. At the end of the day, all they

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Speaker 1: can do is say no, but they may say yes absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and then you have to be ready when they say yes.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole key, you know, Like I said, you

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Speaker 1: can jump, but you better to jump with a plan,

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Speaker 1: better jump with a little money, and most important to

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Speaker 1: jump with the product to be able to deliver. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's a dream in every school because you started mentioning

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Speaker 1: about dreams and talking about people living their dream and

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Speaker 1: reaching their dream and not being deterred when their dreams

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Speaker 1: are being denied. Why do you say there's a dream

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Speaker 1: in every scoop or cream delicious? No, um, just having

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Speaker 1: this ice cream on the shelf. It's it's bigger than me, right,

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Speaker 1: it's it's so much bigger than me. It doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: mean that you know they're this this it's more than

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Speaker 1: just a pint of ice cream for for people to

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Speaker 1: eat and enjoy. It's the accomplishment of just almost doing

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Speaker 1: the impossible. You know, sometimes people don't believe in you,

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Speaker 1: they can't see your vision, they don't understand what you're

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Speaker 1: trying to do. And then everybody you know wants to

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Speaker 1: be around and they want to be with you when

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Speaker 1: you're winning, right, But nobody wants to to be on

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Speaker 1: that bus when it's slowing down. Everybody is jumping off,

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Speaker 1: and then you just have everybody that wants to ride

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Speaker 1: the bus when when it's going fast, you know, and

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Speaker 1: and and there's opportunity and people can see that, and

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Speaker 1: then there's this expiration date, right, so you're you're kind

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00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: of racing against time and you have to really understand,

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Speaker 1: you know, what it means to have hope. I mean,

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Speaker 1: hope keeps us driven, It keeps us in the game.

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Speaker 1: You know. You you feel like as long as you

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Speaker 1: have hope, you feel like you can actually win. You know,

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Speaker 1: once you lose hope, you're gonna lose, you know. So

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Speaker 1: I try really hard to make sure that I can

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Speaker 1: provide what I need for myself and what I've set

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Speaker 1: out to do, because you only have one life now.

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Speaker 1: You started becoming on various people's radar in the top

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Speaker 1: of the year January. I started seeing people free videos

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Speaker 1: of your cremolitions on TikTok and and so it was

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Speaker 1: so you were kind of like I wouldn't say underground

638
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: brand because you were in Target stories. Was like you said,

639
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: Myers and and the Jungle Gym and and then wal

640
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: wanted at the time, but then in January it seems

641
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: like the world discovered you. What impact did they have

642
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: on your business? Because I think you went in Kroger's

643
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: in March. Correct, that's correct. Um Croger's extended the brand

644
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: a lot more than what I thought they would, so

645
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: that was great. And just trying to keep up with

646
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: the demand for UM what's going on here, uh, you know,

647
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: just just out here and being compared to I mean,

648
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: like it's crazy because I'm like right on the shelf

649
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: next to Ben and Jerry Hogendos and Nestley. So it's

650
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of unreal, you know, but it is happening, and

651
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not as easy to stay on

652
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: the shelf. You know. We're looking for, you know, support,

653
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: We're wanting to be acknowledged because we do have a

654
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: very good product. I'm still learning, I'm still perfecting my product.

655
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm still learning what type of marketing to do, UM,

656
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: sorting out the people that's around me, building a stronger infrastructure,

657
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: and just really understanding people think that you can't make

658
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: any mistakes, like you're held to this really really high

659
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: standard and you don't get an opportunity to mess up,

660
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: you know. But the truth of the matter is, as

661
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: a business owner, you're gonna make a ton of mistakes.

662
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn a lot of lessons but that doesn't

663
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: mean you have to live in your lessons. But I'm

664
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: in control of the pen. You know, I've I've decided

665
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: that I'm in control of my own headlines and my

666
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: own destiny and my own future. And you know, I

667
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: write my own headlines now. So with crem Malicious, there's

668
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: so much that I'm learning um in the consumer the

669
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: packaging goods. But I surround myself by a very knowledgeable team,

670
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: and you can't do everything by yourself when you're when

671
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: you're running a business. Now, Walmart, they put out an

672
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: ice cream called June teenth and it it was, it was,

673
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was bad for them because they got

674
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: a lot of bad publicity, but in some ways it

675
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: was good for you, very very good talk about that

676
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: Yin and Yang that was happening, because suddenly, like in January,

677
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: people found you. But for a different reason. Now Walmart

678
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: has apologized. Let's make sure everybody understay. Walmart has apologized

679
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: for distributing to the ice cream, and I believe at

680
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: this time they're removing the ice cream from the shelf.

681
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: But this interview is about the impact of positivity that

682
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: their fans have found you, how they've supported you so

683
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: talk about that whole Walmart experience, you know, from the

684
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: social media, from the fans, and how they have rallied

685
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: behind you on your social media. And it's almost like

686
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: if if if social media was a phone, your phone

687
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: will be ringing off the hook. It has been ringing

688
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: off the hook. Actually there has and um so many

689
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: news outlets from across the country that want me to

690
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: speak on this, and I pretty much had decided, uh,

691
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: how I was going to deliver my message and decided

692
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: when I was going to answer to it and what

693
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: climate I was gonna be in. And of course I

694
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: trust you, you know, with my life, because you're fair

695
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: and you're very very much right here. Um you're not

696
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: You're not biased, And it's it's it's it's kind of

697
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: like you don't go in and and make assumptions about things,

698
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: and you think about things and and and I'm in

699
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: a safe environment where I can deliver my story. And

700
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: so I felt really good about how I'm delivering my

701
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: story and the climate that I'm delivering it in today.

702
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: So that's why I decided to do this one and

703
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: only exclusive interview with you. Uh. It was very hard

704
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: because it was very scary because I wasn't really sure

705
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: how this was going to affect my brand. Um, I

706
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: didn't know. You know, it could have went either way.

707
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: And and even today, you don't know if you know

708
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna upset someone, or if someone's gonna you know,

709
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: if there's gonna be backlash, or you just don't know.

710
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: But all I know is today I just have to

711
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: be my authentic self, um and a businesswoman and understand

712
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm dealing with right now. And it was

713
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: a very unfortunate situation. But I think the blessing of

714
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: it was all of the people out in the world

715
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: that really supported me. I mean like literally some of

716
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: the posts really made me cry. I got thousands of messages, emails,

717
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: letters in boxes, uh, posts, just people just reaching out,

718
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: just really wanting to be supportive of this brand. It

719
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, cheers to the underdog, because

720
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: I am the underdog, right and I'm I'm cool with

721
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: that because it's what I know. It's all I know

722
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: how to do is come back from it and basically

723
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: stayd my ground. But when you're yourself and when you're

724
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: authentic and you stand by your brand and your name,

725
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: that's all that really matters, and I wanted people to

726
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: really understand that I never went through a diversity department

727
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: in any of the retailers that I got involved with

728
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: where crem Alicious is being sold. I didn't. I did

729
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: that for a reason because I wanted to be in

730
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: the stores for my own merits, my hard work, the

731
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: quality of my product. I didn't want a handout. I

732
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: didn't want people to feel like, you know, they had

733
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: to meet a quota or you know, we're just going

734
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: to give you a shot because you're black, and we

735
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: have to have an African American or minority or black

736
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: woman in the in the stores. I wanted them to

737
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: understand that my brand is just as good as anyone else's.

738
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: I'm just not as big. I may not have all

739
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: the resources, I may not have all the capital that

740
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: other brands have to really really grow this brand. But

741
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: every day I invest in myself by working hard and

742
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: investing in my brand and making sure that my brand

743
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: has what it needs to compete and be successful. And

744
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: I just really compete with myself. So I feel like

745
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: everybody that reached out, everybody that was on those posts,

746
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: and the shares and the likes, and and just how

747
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: they stood up. You know, it just meant everything to

748
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: me and it really gave me everything to keep going.

749
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the executive chef, founder owner of Premolitious,

750
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: of Liz Rogers. Liz. Um, there are a lot of

751
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: room which I want to clear up right now. You know,

752
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: first of all, first rumor affairs that the June Teeth

753
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: ice cream was a collaboration between wal Mart and Premolitious.

754
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Can you answer that? That's definitely a fosse rumor. Um,

755
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: I never knew that Walmart was doing a June Team

756
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: ice cream. I've never given them any recipes. Uh. Our

757
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: recipes are are red velvet ice creams are totally different.

758
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: I have chocolate chunks in my red velvet ice cream. Um.

759
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: My recipes are formulated in proprietary with food scientists that

760
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: I personally worked with two crem Alicious. So I had

761
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: no idea what Walmart did or what they were doing.

762
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm not involved in anything that they do as it

763
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: relates to the Great Value brand. So, um, this was

764
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: not a joint venture deal. Um, this was nothing to

765
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: do with me. So their decisions are just that and

766
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with Cremolicious. I'm speaking of

767
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: executive chef Liz Rodgers or Cremolicious. Another rumors that you're

768
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: going to take your ice cream. You're so mad, You're

769
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: so mad that you're going to take your ice cream

770
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: off the shelves of Walmart. That's very fast, um, to

771
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: be perfectly honest, I've had a very good relationship with

772
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Walmart for about a year and a half now. The

773
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: category manager has always been extremely attentive to me. He's

774
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 1: always watched out for me and really has been there,

775
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, personally. He's always done an amazing job as

776
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: it relates to prem Militious and the growth of Creme Alicious.

777
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: And he's expanded my brand three times. So that's not true.

778
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: And I'm a businesswoman, you know, I can't just go

779
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: around taking stuff off the shelf. Um. Whether I agree

780
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: with things or not, you know, but it has nothing

781
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: to do with it. We'll be right back with more

782
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, let's return

783
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, when

784
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: you talk about the fans support that that that's what

785
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: really put a smile on your face, Like you talked

786
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: about while while the juneteenth ice cream was on the show.

787
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: Fans were out there saying, hey, you got Creeme Milicious

788
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: on there. You should be supporting now when you should?

789
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: That's the ice cream that that ice cream was fantastic.

790
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Now that's the part as a brand, as an entrepreneur,

791
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: that's all you want. All you want is for your

792
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: customer to come to your rescue. And sometimes coming to

793
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: the rescue is by buying your product. In this case,

794
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: they will not only buying your product, but they will

795
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: promoting your product. And that's why you're getting these calls

796
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: over the country and Executive chef List. This has to

797
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: be in some ways a turning point for your brand

798
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: because now it's putting it in a different lane of popularity.

799
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: Correct it is, and and the ice cream is selling

800
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: out all across the country and I'm trying to keep

801
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: up with the demand. And now I have to find

802
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: more investors. I guess find more. Um, I just have

803
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: to keep it moving. And the fans support was just

804
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. But I want people to understand that, you know,

805
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to need support. We're going to

806
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: continue to need support to grow and to bring more

807
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: flavors and to bring uh, more to the to the

808
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: category and to really make this a huge movement. You know,

809
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: this is a really really big deal. Was see only

810
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: African American ice cream and mass production in the world.

811
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: That's really huge. I don't think people understand what this

812
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: can mean. You know that this could possibly bring about

813
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: more entrepreneurs that want to get in the source, not

814
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: just in the ice cream category, but period. You know,

815
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: there's so many I'm looking at Instagram and there's so

816
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: many amazing pastry lines and coffees and creamy There's so

817
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: much that we can do and we can contribute to

818
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: at this very moment. And we have to keep doing

819
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: it even if you're not buying a point, tell somebody

820
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: about it, dedicate support, keep supporting it. Shouldn't have an

821
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: expiration day. We have to keep keep this going absolutely. Now,

822
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: you said something that was important here now because sometimes

823
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: sudden popularity can cause a shift in the money that

824
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: you have for the ice cream that you're trying to

825
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: put on the shelf. Are you looking for investors or

826
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: investors should conta act you or we're not talking about everybody.

827
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: Because you are a person trying to expand your brand.

828
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, when you go from two thousand stores to

829
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: four thousand stores or four thousand stores and six thousand

830
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: stores and ten thousand stores across the country that is

831
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: tied in for additional revenue to be able to make

832
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: the ice cream. Tell everybody how that really works and

833
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: how you feel about where you're going over the next

834
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: couple of years with crep Relicious. I'm definitely looking for

835
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: more investors, but I'm looking for the right investors. You know,

836
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm very all money. It's not good money, and I'm

837
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm really not in a situation where i can make

838
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: any mistakes, you know right now, Um, I have to

839
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: be extremely strategic. I have to think about the people

840
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: that I'm allowing to be in my circle. I have

841
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: to understand, Uh, the investors that I currently have now,

842
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: they're not multimillionaires, but they're well to do. They have families,

843
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: and that's I really love that, you know, because criminal

844
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: Sious it's a generational brand. It is a brand that's

845
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: going to be around, like Coke or Pepsi. It's it's

846
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: Disney stock, you know. I remember reading a story where

847
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: um Walt Disney was trying to do partnerships or get

848
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Speaker 1: loans from banks and everybody's turning them down. I've been

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Speaker 1: in that situation. I've been turned down so much and

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Speaker 1: just strong along and all the things that go with

851
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Speaker 1: with raising money, which is extremely discouraging. And then you

852
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: meet these people that are just regular people, hardworking people

853
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: just like you, that believe in you, and it grows

854
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: from there. And I'm a I'm a working owner. So

855
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Speaker 1: as a CEO, I'm very hands on, I'm I'm very creative.

856
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: I do a lot of product development for national companies

857
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Speaker 1: that I'm I'm working with now, creating points and I'm

858
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Speaker 1: very good at um product development. So that's really a

859
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Speaker 1: huge wheelhouse of mine and it has a lot to

860
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Speaker 1: do with being an executive chef. But at the same time, UM,

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Speaker 1: just going back to this experience that I've experienced the

862
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Speaker 1: past week. UM, yes, I'm an executive chef, but I

863
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: don't cook with politics, and so that's something that I

864
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Speaker 1: don't want to have my brand involved in in any way, shape, shape, form,

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Speaker 1: or fashion. So that's a really big thing for me

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Speaker 1: as well. So just finding the right people and making

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Speaker 1: sure that I am affiliated with the right persons or

868
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Speaker 1: person for my brand is very key. Now as I

869
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Speaker 1: watched on other TVs. On Martha Stewart do this, Um,

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Speaker 1: I guess a flea market at a house US on TV.

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Speaker 1: I see, uh, you know, you know Rachel Race US

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Speaker 1: cooking show kind of like talk show. You know, is

873
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Speaker 1: that something in your future? You're very articularly if you

874
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: know you you're successful entrepreneur. Are you gonna stay in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen or are you looking a seeking opportunities to

876
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: be in front of the camera as a motivator, as

877
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Speaker 1: an actress, as a t the host talk to us.

878
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Speaker 1: I definitely would hope to God that Tyler Perry caused

879
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: me to be in a movie. I definitely want my

880
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Speaker 1: own show, I am. I would love to have a

881
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: story done all my life because my my journey, my

882
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: life is very profound. UM. When I spoke earlier about

883
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: the underdog, UM losing everything, UM, watching all of your

884
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: dreams just be shattered and two a million pieces, and

885
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: you're watching, you know, all these pieces shattered, kind of

886
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: like a puzzle, and here you are, You're trying to

887
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: figure out how do you put yourself back together? And

888
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: it just starts with one piece at a time, and

889
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: then you're taking these pieces trying to make them fit

890
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: and they don't fit into these pieces, and you try

891
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: another piece and you just keep going until you can

892
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: finally understand what's your purpose is and what you're doing. Um,

893
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: my story is is definitely a story of inspiration because

894
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep it moving. You know, even

895
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: if even if you fall, you've got to get back up.

896
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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's a big it's a big deal.

897
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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping to be able to get a show

898
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: and um, be able to read them, meet the right people,

899
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: and definitely get the one that understands that I do

900
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: have talent and I do have a lot to give

901
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: back as well. Well, I would say this, I'm looking

902
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: at the person who's shining a shining star. I say

903
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: that because of the fact that not only you're saying

904
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Speaker 1: all the right things, but you're delivering them with a

905
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: lot of honesty. And when you when when something like

906
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: this happens because you have no control of it and

907
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: you had to respond and you had to be frustrated,

908
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and now you're the point in your life

909
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: where you're flipping the scripts. You're turning into something that

910
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: some people may deem as a negative. Some people might

911
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: wilt you're showing strength. Where is that strength coming from?

912
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: And how can you encourage other people who face adversity?

913
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Speaker 1: Two would come to odds. My strong comes from my mom.

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Speaker 1: You know. I watched my mother. She was a welder,

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Speaker 1: and I lost my mom several months ago unexpected cancer diagnosis,

916
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Speaker 1: and it's been extremely hard. But she was very strong.

917
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Speaker 1: She raised all four of us by herself. She worked

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Speaker 1: as a welder. Like I said, she was the only

919
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: woman that worked at her her job, and I just

920
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: remember her just coming home so tired, and we just

921
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Speaker 1: we just never wanted for anything. We didn't have a lot.

922
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: But she was very strong and it was like nothing

923
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: ever bothered her, you know. And then it wasn't until

924
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: you know, she got sick. I understood, you know, even

925
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: though she was very hard on me. You know, it's like,

926
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Speaker 1: you know, I ran track, I played in the Junior

927
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Orchestra for four years. I write music. I I

928
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Speaker 1: do a lot. I've done a lot um. I didn't

929
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Speaker 1: realize how much of an artist I was until I

930
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Speaker 1: really got into the coon arts. And with my mom,

931
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Speaker 1: she's always wanted to own a restaurant. She was an

932
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Speaker 1: amazing cook and because she was a single parent she

933
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Speaker 1: got she never got an opportunity to do that. So

934
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Speaker 1: I really feel like maybe I opened my restaurants and

935
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Speaker 1: went on the path that I went on UM because

936
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Speaker 1: of her, you know, UM, so that she can live

937
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: her dream through me. And so this is where we

938
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Speaker 1: are today. And I just never saw UM anyone disrespect

939
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Speaker 1: my mother. UM. She always fought for what she believed

940
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: in and that was extremely important to me and I

941
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Speaker 1: appreciate that to to this day. I didn't realize how

942
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: much I would need her strength until some of the

943
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: things started happening, like with the adversity and a lot

944
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Speaker 1: of things that's going on today in the world that

945
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: you don't think that you would have to deal with.

946
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Speaker 1: But here, here you are. So how do you handle it? Well?

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Speaker 1: My friend and my listeners and my viewers, I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to executive chef Liz Rogers. She's own and

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Speaker 1: found of Criminalists. Is June tenth is coming up, and

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Speaker 1: her ice cream is available, is available at Waltbart. It's

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Speaker 1: available to talk. It's a very it's available to myers,

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Speaker 1: a very jungle gym. More importantly, it's created by an

953
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: incredible artist that I was fortunate to have on my

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Speaker 1: show to talk about tell our story. The story is

955
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Speaker 1: not tied to negativity, is tied to positivity, is tied

956
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Speaker 1: to uplift, and more importantly, it's tied to encouragement. Basically,

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Speaker 1: when you buy her ice cream, when you taste her

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Speaker 1: ice cream, know that you're participating in a dreamer and

959
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: her dreams is allowing you to know that you too

960
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: can be successful. I want to thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on money Making Conversation master Class. Executive Chef Liz Rogers,

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Speaker 1: thank you. You have a great day and live life deliciously.

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00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. If you want to hear us see

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Speaker 1: this interview on Money Making Conversation Masterclass, please go to

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversation dot com. I'm ras Sean McDonald. I

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Speaker 1: am your host. You've been listening to money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember to lead with your gifts.

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a presentation of fifteen Media Incorporated.

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Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute

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Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rushan McDonald. I'm Rushan McDonald for money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass. With your daily minute of Inspiration, I

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Speaker 1: said that with writer and director Reggie rock Bitewood. He

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Speaker 1: discussed the message behind the series Swagger, having confidence and

974
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Speaker 1: living your dreams. The show is called Swagger. You know,

975
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Speaker 1: obviously on the surface that's like barbato and competence, but

976
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Speaker 1: really underneath all of that, Swaggers were having a cause

977
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Speaker 1: bigger than yourself, whether you your causes, your people, your family,

978
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Speaker 1: your team, having a cause bigger than yourself, um really

979
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Speaker 1: gives you that sense of purpose, that determination to move

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Speaker 1: closer to your your dreams and your calling. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's why you know in Jason's Journey, Jason's journey

982
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: initially is himself and as we go through the narrative,

983
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Speaker 1: it expands as he expands. You can listen to this

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Speaker 1: four interview Reggie Fikewood is available on Money Making Conversation

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Speaker 1: dot com