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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with

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Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman The Pot

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Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for

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Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one with

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Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Washerman, the Pop

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Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. It's good to have you both here today,

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Speaker 1: Mark and Craig. Blue is out to he has to

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Speaker 1: handle a bunch of things at the house and all allegedly,

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Speaker 1: well he at least he called early and you know,

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Speaker 1: feel Why does it feel like that with him? Why

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Speaker 1: do you, Craig, do you feel that way too? Like

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Speaker 1: he won't tell us what he's doing. He's not taking

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Speaker 1: his grandmother somewhere. Hey, hey, just because Mark's always using

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Speaker 1: those excuses, that's not my grandpa. Can't We discussed a

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Speaker 1: little bit well, our dad, our dad. You know, it

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Speaker 1: should be noticed that our both parents got it and

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Speaker 1: our dad our mom didn't have any side effects. Our

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Speaker 1: dad was very fatigued and had the body and your

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Speaker 1: dad stated a little longer, which is good, but your

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Speaker 1: mother in law now show showing some symptoms of some

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Speaker 1: After twenty four hours, she was fine and then this

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Speaker 1: morning she woke up with a lot of pain in

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Speaker 1: pain in the leg So Dr wants to check and

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Speaker 1: Craig just to let you know why this has to

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Speaker 1: putting some Pop Brothers at Law lotion on her legs

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Speaker 1: and some cream on her legs and she fell down again,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know, she didn't much. It started the

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Speaker 1: relief starting relief, but they're taking her to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: So Mark will be leaving shortly. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: listening to the show all around the world. We want

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Speaker 1: about our personal lives at Cannabis Talk one on one

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Speaker 1: at pot Underscore Brothers Underscore at Underscore, Law, Mark's at

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Speaker 1: fifty two. Thank you guys for tuning in and following

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Speaker 1: us all over the world. But Mark and Craig, we

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Speaker 1: have a very special guest that I believe reached out

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Speaker 1: to the Pop Brothers at Law. First, Paul white House

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Speaker 1: from Ohio. He was a police officer that quit after

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Speaker 1: eight years. He's dabbling now into some new stuff, which

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Speaker 1: is new. Website is Patriot BFC dot com Patriot Business

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Speaker 1: Finance Consultants. Uh, Paul, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us today and coming on the show and actually drove

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Speaker 1: here from Ohio. Please get a little closer to the

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Speaker 1: mic so I can feel like you're right next to me.

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Speaker 1: And Paul talked to us because you reached out to

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Speaker 1: Mark and Craig, the Pot Brothers at Law, saying how

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Speaker 1: you love their script. Talk about how you found Mark

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Speaker 1: and Craig. First off, LinkedIn is where I found these

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Speaker 1: guys that as soon as I watched the video just

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Speaker 1: I agree with I became fascinated with First Amendment audit videos,

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Speaker 1: border patrol, You checkpoints? Do you I checkpoints? My personal

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Speaker 1: opinion is that it's unconstitutional, even though the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: Or what's the difference? They didn't well, they didn't do

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Speaker 1: the state Patrol had him, but I saw none of them.

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Speaker 1: at which I love the script so much, did anybody

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Speaker 1: hands on a steering wheel in the car. And wait,

428
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Speaker 1: so Ance, I gave you that that it's he smoked

429
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Speaker 1: a joint, And let's let's make it. Let's make it

430
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: also a fact that you're in a state where smell

431
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: is no longer probable cause, because it's probable cause in Ohio.

432
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Speaker 1: But I'm saying that we can't use that as example

433
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Speaker 1: because that just trumps there. You go, You're right, he's

434
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Speaker 1: in California. Now you have to do you cross state

435
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: lines now, your California cop. All right, let me try

436
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: to remember all this stuff over over, I safely pull over.

437
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: As soon I safely pull over to the right, turn

438
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Speaker 1: my engine off and my window down, and my hands

439
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: are on the steering wheel. So do you know why

440
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: I pulled you over? Why did you pull me over?

441
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,239
Speaker 1: You were speeding? Where you coming from today? I'm not

442
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 1: discussing my day. Oh you're not discussing your day? How

443
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: come am I being detained? Am I free to go? Well,

444
00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: you're temporarily being detained for a traffic violation. Have your

445
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: driver's license on your insurance card? Mr? Wasserman. Yes, here's

446
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: my driver's license, insurance and registration, which I had on

447
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: my visor, so I only had to move my hands

448
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Speaker 1: from my wheel to my visor. Just key, folks especially,

449
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: and then give it to the officer and hand back

450
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Speaker 1: on the wheel. All right, do you know what speed

451
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Speaker 1: you were going? I'm not discussing my day. Okay, well

452
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Speaker 1: I'll be right back. That's it, that's it for me,

453
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Speaker 1: that's your pride. I'm done. Well, I've got nothing to

454
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Speaker 1: pry upon. And then you would go back to your

455
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Speaker 1: do you want Yeah? Let me get over here, do

456
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Speaker 1: you want it? Lunch didn't finish the strip? Do you

457
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Speaker 1: want me to pry, but he didn't care. You want

458
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Speaker 1: me to prize. I just alright, you're right, yeah, so

459
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Speaker 1: you're still there. He's so it's not done. You went

460
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Speaker 1: and looked at it, and you come back. I want

461
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Speaker 1: you to go hard on him. I want you to

462
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Speaker 1: make him crack. But no, you know what, don't Are

463
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: we gonna have time to talk about my business. We're

464
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: gonna go into that next most, I just want to

465
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Speaker 1: get rid of this police step out of the way

466
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Speaker 1: for all. I'll try, all right. I want you to

467
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: go hard to show people what a hard ass cop.

468
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: So it's been so long since I've been a hard ass.

469
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Speaker 1: But I'll try channel those three guys that you knew about.

470
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Speaker 1: That's why I shaved today. All right, all right, Mr washerman,

471
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Speaker 1: I smell something in your vehicle. Can you tell me

472
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: what that is. I'm not discussing my day. Well you're

473
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to discuss your day. I smell something in

474
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Speaker 1: your vehicle and it's unusual. It smells actually like marijuana.

475
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Speaker 1: Can you tell me about that. Am I being detained?

476
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Speaker 1: Am I free to go? You're being detained because of

477
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Speaker 1: the traffic stop. But what I'm asking you is what

478
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: about that smell in your car? I invoked the fifth?

479
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: You invoked the fifth. Okay, well you'll need to invoke

480
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: the fifth when you're under arrest. I'm not I have

481
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: I have not read you your Miranda rights yet. I'm

482
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Speaker 1: just asking you a conversational and can you cooperate and

483
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: can you tell me the answer to that question? What

484
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: is it that I smell in your car? And for

485
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: those in podcast land, I am shutting the funk up.

486
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: So okay, So he's being quiet, he's just letting the

487
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: audience know why he's not. Well, if we were in

488
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Speaker 1: a state right now where that was probable cause, he

489
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: would tell him to get out of the car. You

490
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: can tell him to get out of the car. Now,

491
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: if you're in a state, let's say it's not probable case.

492
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Speaker 1: It's not probable cause, not probable cause, Well, then there's

493
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Speaker 1: nothing you can do. Now, let's go back to Okay,

494
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Speaker 1: So a good cop is probably gonna hear that you're

495
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: looking for other stuff. If if I see some paraphernalia,

496
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm looking for some reason. If you see if you

497
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: see a pipe mark and Craig gets more California law

498
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Speaker 1: for you guys, is that probable cause because you see

499
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Speaker 1: the pipe. Yes, that's paraphernalia in plain views. What about

500
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Speaker 1: a knife, Yes, you know what I'm saying, like one

501
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: of the little pocket but you can have our Kansas

502
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: toothpicker and that's not legal. Yeah, that a switch blade

503
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: is illegal. There are certain types of knives. Okay, Now

504
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: let's switch the script. And now you're in Ohio where

505
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: it is probable cost, and let me hear how it

506
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Speaker 1: goes from there, because a lot of listeners, of course

507
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: all over the world where it is probable cause. How

508
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: does it happen from the moment when you say you

509
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: smell something, it goes the same way, and then the

510
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: way it would end up, and then the way it

511
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: would end up. If he wouldn't cooperate or speak anymore

512
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Speaker 1: on what it is, say, come on out of the car,

513
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Speaker 1: exit the car. If I was alone, depending on how

514
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Speaker 1: I judged him to be cooperative uncooperative, I might tell

515
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Speaker 1: him to stay there and wait until I get somebody

516
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: else there. Or I might bring them out by myself,

517
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Speaker 1: bring them out, probably cuff them up, and uh put

518
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Speaker 1: him in the back of the car, because I got

519
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: probable cause to do that, and I could search the

520
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Speaker 1: car and I want a problem, I would remain shutting

521
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Speaker 1: the funk up, and I would comply with all the request,

522
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Speaker 1: get out of the car, put my hands behind my back.

523
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Speaker 1: I think the moral of that last story is the

524
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: only thing the script can do. In that scenario, you

525
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: just can't continue to you can't screw yourself. But if

526
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: you're in a state where it's probable cause, don't allow

527
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: your car to smell like it, because that will trump

528
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: pardon expression, that will trump everything he's able to do it.

529
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Speaker 1: You're not giving him consent. He doesn't need your consent,

530
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Speaker 1: So just don't let that happen. Don't let their probable

531
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Speaker 1: cause exist, because that would be the only probable cause

532
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: they would have unless they saw something in plain sight.

533
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Speaker 1: So in those states the deodorize is it medical? In Ohio?

534
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: So so that So that's interesting though, because you know,

535
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Speaker 1: in in California before the adult use was medical and

536
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: we could make we successfully did this in the past

537
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: years and years ago. When an officer searched for the smell,

538
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: we argued that it wasn't illegal conduct because the person

539
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Speaker 1: had their medical card and it was had they were

540
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: possessing it legally because of their medical card. Therefore the

541
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: smell in and of itself wasn't illegal conduct. So the

542
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: point is, though, no matter where, you are, never consent

543
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: to a search because you never know how your defense

544
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: attorney later can try to argue some kind of search.

545
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: But if you consent, it's overdone, period and you never

546
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: know what falls in your car. Hence Mark and Craig

547
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: had a story of helping some lady who was an

548
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: uber driver and drove home with somebody that was homeless,

549
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: and he left a joint in the backseat and she

550
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: got bock a roach at that, not even a full joint.

551
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: So you know, do not do that of the strangers

552
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: in your car. And if you do, even if it's

553
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: your buddy, like I could have Peanut in my car

554
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: and he could drop one of his pills that he takes.

555
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: Who knows what happens, And I'm like sitting there going stuck,

556
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: like Chuck, whose is this? It was? It was exactly,

557
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: I look like the biggest crack care. There's a lot

558
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: of crack heads around. We had a guy who consented

559
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 1: to his search because he thought, oh, I don't have anything,

560
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: and they and he was on probate fellon on probation.

561
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: Two days from getting off probation, they tore his car

562
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: apart and they found a bullet that was left there

563
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: from like eight years before, and uh think that was

564
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: he was a felon with the ammunition. Can't do that.

565
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: Don't do that. It's great to talk to you, Paul

566
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: Whitehouse from Ohio. Eight years in the p D. Now

567
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about though when we come back. His

568
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: new gig, Patriotic T Patriotic BFC dot com. No, you're

569
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: far away, Patriot Business Finance Consultants. You know what, I

570
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: don't even know who I am. It's Cannabi was channeled

571
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: him right now. One oh one, Welcome back to the

572
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: Craig and Joe Show. It's Craig Washerman and Joe Grande.

573
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: That's all that matters in this world, right Craig, that's

574
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. I would agree. Okay, it's can't you talk one?

575
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: I want to welcome back to the show. Blue is

576
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: gone today handling some stuff and Mark's picking up his

577
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: mother in laws. She has to go get her another

578
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: shot or go see the doctor again to see she's

579
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: okay after getting the COVID shots or a lot of

580
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: people out there I know this may relate to you

581
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: because these shots are out there running wild. So if

582
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: you can get yours, you know, hopefully you don't have

583
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: a reaction. Well, Paul, great stories about you being a

584
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, X cop and this and that before we

585
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: get into your new website and your new venture Patriot

586
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: BFC dot com. Thank you very much. I can read now.

587
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: Why did you quit? Well, it's pretty simple, two reasons. So.

588
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: I was full time at the sheriff's department for three

589
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: years and that was the worst job. The culture there

590
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: was different than the township police department that I worked at.

591
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: That was elaborate. What do you mean different in the

592
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: in the county that I live at? You would want

593
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: to work at the police department that I worked at.

594
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: It was part time, but I worked there for thirty

595
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: two or forty hours a week, so I was literally

596
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: working seventy eight hours a week between both jobs. Uh.

597
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: At the township, you just did the job. You drive around,

598
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: if you see something going on, you investigate it, no problem.

599
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: The sheriff's department was an old union mentality. I guess,

600
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: don't do more than me because you make me look bad,

601
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: and they did nothing. One of the guys went home

602
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: at night. Everybody else went to Perkins and sat in

603
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: eighth and for five hours out of eight hours, they

604
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: were doing nothing. I came from. I wanted to be active,

605
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: so I was active, and uh, they didn't like that.

606
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: So two years on the road at the sheriff's department

607
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: at midnight turned that's where you want to be at

608
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: if your police been working nights were the actions at

609
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: You know, you want to go to bar fights, it's

610
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: it's exciting, it's what you want. But those guys, as

611
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: you say that I'm sitting here going I wouldn't. I

612
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: actually want to make the money and go home. But okay,

613
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Speaker 1: well they did well. They did my family. No big fights,

614
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: no big nothing. They did the one that one guy

615
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: just farmed all night long. It was crazy. So as

616
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: a sheriff getting paid farming the truth, so a lot

617
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: of bullshit was going on, right and then just casts

618
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: not want to get involved. They just weren't doing a

619
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Speaker 1: drop area. So I quit there when I got a

620
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: promise that you will be the next full time guy

621
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Speaker 1: at the township. Didn't happen. They hired another guy. Hung on,

622
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: they hired another guy after a slap on the back

623
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: of a promise, and then they hired a girl just

624
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: because she was a girl. I had seven and some

625
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: years and she had six months. And I didn't really

626
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: like that. And then my friend who owned a construction business, said,

627
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: let's go make money. We sold uh, what do you

628
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: call him? A buttane, lighters and guns. Namo magazine made

629
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of money. I got a bit with

630
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: the bug of trying to do some business to make

631
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: some money, had some small businesses landscaping, sold cars really well.

632
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: I did really well selling cars, did mortgages, and all

633
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: of that took us to where we're at right now,

634
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: to where Patriot business finance consultants and tell us about

635
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: that what is this exactly? So imagine a mortgage broker.

636
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: You've got thirty lenders, and that mortgage broker can go

637
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: to that many places to get you the best deal,

638
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: the best rate, the best product for whatever you're trying

639
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: to do. Same thing. Although we are brokers, we prefer

640
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: to be consultants because we listen, we want the best outcome.

641
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: We've got a hundred and five lenders and we can

642
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: fulfill any finance need that would be equipment leasing, working capital,

643
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: credit lines for any business and any business, that's what

644
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: we were so not just a cannabis you guys can

645
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: do but but check this out. Yes, yes that's true.

646
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: We can do it for any style of business. But

647
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: now we're extremely focused on cannabis and hemp because we

648
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: had a I see, we had a customer referred to

649
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: us ten months ago, and that's not institutional financing. He

650
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: wanted to do an industrial hemp processing plant ground up.

651
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. That's not institutional financing. So we

652
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: had to learn how to do that. Learning how to

653
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: do that, everybody at called and spoke with I did

654
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: not like. I didn't like what they were saying. I

655
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: didn't trust them. I have common sense and when somebody

656
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: tells me they want a fifteen thousand dollar a month

657
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: retainer to raise private money for my customer, I'm like,

658
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: you're take don't take advantage of me. So yeah, so

659
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: long story short. After searching, an attorney friend of ours

660
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: introduced us to a group in Cleveland, Bill and Staff,

661
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: and these guys have taken us under their wing. They

662
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: mentor us, We have weekly meetings with them. They're great.

663
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: They've taken us under their wing. They've taught us how

664
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: to do this, and they've done it for a couple

665
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: of reasons, because they love the hemp deal that we

666
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: brought them. We also have two other deals on their

667
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: desk right now with large private money deals. That's the

668
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: direction that we want to go with our business. And

669
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: uh on Clubhouse, that new app right, Clubhouse is excellent,

670
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: LinkedIn was the best thing that ever happened to our business.

671
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: But the micro conversations I'm on right now on Clubhouse,

672
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: everybody in this space needs money. Okay, we can do

673
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: it for them. Can I take a minute more and

674
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: just different? Thank you? I want you to really, I mean,

675
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm fully listening to you. That's why, thank you. I'm

676
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: we're both just listening, not trying to interrupt. You're taking

677
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: us down a great thank you ahead, thank you so much.

678
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: All right. So there's a couple of different ways we

679
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: can get money for cannabis and hemp businesses. One, if

680
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: you're in existing hemp camp in hemp or cannabis business CBD.

681
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Are they both the same if it's just hemp, and

682
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: so even if it deals with the thame thing, same

683
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: rates as well. Yeah. Really, I've got forty leasing companies

684
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: on my leasing list forty two or something like that.

685
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: Only four of them deal with hemp er cannabis, but

686
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: they'll deal with them. Now, existing businesses are a lot easier.

687
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Startups are a lot more difficult, but they can be done.

688
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: So we can lease equipment in hemp in cannabis are

689
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: those are those leases the same at market rate for

690
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: non cannabis business a little bit more expensive. And it

691
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: depends on thequipment. I mean, if it's common equipment like

692
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: farming equipment, yes, If it's specialized equipment where they only

693
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: can only if they take it back, they can only

694
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: have one market to sell it to, then it will

695
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: be more expensive. So leasing we can offer that the

696
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: things that were most excited about and the things that

697
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: dragged us into this industry, and we like it. We're

698
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: glad we're dragged into this. It's just happening this way.

699
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: They're dropping out of the sky. At US is raising

700
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: private money while being Securities and Exchange Commission compliant. Very

701
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: important on this. I'm hearing lots of talk about predatory lending.

702
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: Predatory this they offer some I heard somebody guy yesterday

703
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: on the Clubhouse say that they offered him money and

704
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: then three years later down the road. He has to

705
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: share it. He has a social equity license, he has

706
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: to share his license with them. He has to always

707
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: be on that. That's funny you bring that. That's funny,

708
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: you bring that up. I'm involved in a lot of

709
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: social equity stuff, and that was like bad advice from

710
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: someone at the beginning, not knowing about social equity. Well,

711
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: that's what the investor wants though, right, Like the investor

712
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: gonna go, Okay, I'll give you the money. But guess what,

713
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Mr Social equity owner. Three. Part of the joe. You

714
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: know what's happening is there are people out there that

715
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: are acquiring there's companies acquiring multiple licenses to to build

716
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: up their portfolio so they can turn around and sell

717
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: the entire company. Some of the licenses that are being

718
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: acquired by some of these companies are licenses that are

719
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: that we're acquired through a social equity program, and most

720
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: social equity programs, the actual social equity applicant has to

721
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: own and get so much of the percent of the

722
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: company and the profits, and so if that's not disclosed properly,

723
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: if someone were to buy the company, there has like

724
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: ten licenses and this is one of them. That's the

725
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: due diligence that has to be done. Otherwise you run

726
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: into problems where the social equity applicant gets of the profits.

727
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: And that's how and that's how it is. But isn't

728
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: that great for that social equity aplican who gets of

729
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: all the company though, right of all the other licenses

730
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: as well, are just no, no, no no no, just

731
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: if he's part of the whole company. Yes, But I'm

732
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: talking about just a company goes in and buys up

733
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: various different licenses, you know, and this is the one

734
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: license has a social equity applicate on it. Yeah, social equity.

735
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: From what I've learned is they have to be ownership

736
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: at all times forever. So even if they sell it,

737
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: they still have to be owner. But I just used

738
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: that as an example of some a story someone told

739
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: me about predatory private money lending in this industry. Here's

740
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: something very interesting about the way that we do it,

741
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: and I thank you guys. It's it's quite a difference

742
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: as far as when you hear private money lending, you

743
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: think sharks, right, you think they're going for all of

744
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: it company hard money loans, hard money loans. But it

745
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: can be structured in two ways, and one is a

746
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: better way to do it. So in every time you

747
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: are being Securities and Exchange Commission impliant, which you need

748
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: to be when you're raising private money from accredited and

749
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: sophisticated investors, you have to have a preliminary prospectus and

750
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: you have to have a private placement memorandum. That's the

751
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: language of the investors. That's what they say yes or

752
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: no to UH and they're required by law. So then

753
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: you move on to the capital raise. The capital raise

754
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: typically equity groups when they go for the money, they're

755
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: going to go to one group. They will go directly

756
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: to a venture capital company and get the money. That

757
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: is the scenario that you hear about all the time

758
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: when you hear them say, well, they now own my company,

759
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: and they do for the next five years until you

760
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: buy them out. And that's not a bad thing because

761
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: if that's the way you got the money, that's the

762
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: way you grew it. People do it like that. It

763
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: does happen that way. But there's a better way. And

764
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: the better way is this. When you get to the

765
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: capital raise section, you break it down into three parts.

766
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: The first part is called free money. Free money is

767
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: grant money, and there's a lot of grant money out there,

768
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: target geting of opportunity zones, looking for port authority money,

769
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: low interest government loans, anything that you can get. I mean,

770
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: in this industrial hemp process and deal that we're doing,

771
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: it's estimated that eight percent of it will be free money.

772
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: And how much are you guys getting from that twenty

773
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: one and a half million dollars what we're raising for

774
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: a ground up, turn key plant. Shout out Global Jeremy

775
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: Luciano on LinkedIn. They change the company name. I don't

776
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: want to say it wrong, but Jeremy's his name, jeremylus

777
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: the best guy. Yeah, he's a great friend. That actually

778
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: he changed his name estern and I don't want to

779
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: be wrong. And Environmental Living Industries on LinkedIn. They're building

780
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: the plant in the state of Texas industrial fibrous hemp

781
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: so but we're raising twenty one and a half million

782
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: dollars for them, so capital raise. If you go straight

783
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: to the venture capitalist, those are the worst terms for

784
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the customer. That's the most expensive money. And they they

785
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: literally have the right to ask you for of ownership

786
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: because they gave it all. Right, it's not fair if

787
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: you break the capital raised down into three sections. How

788
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: much money can you get for free or very low

789
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: interest government loans. The second part of it is identifying

790
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: what the borrower can personally signed for. That would be

791
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: real estate or equipment leases. And this works for a

792
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: start up business or in the existing business, same same process. Okay, um,

793
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: so free money, what can personally be signed and guaranteed for.

794
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Fill in the balance with investor money. And the reason

795
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: you do it that way that takes away the ability

796
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: of those investors. Two, ask your company, you know now

797
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: you're in a stronger negot We are in a stronger

798
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: negotiating position to get you more control and equity over

799
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: that five year period. I'm just gonna go one step,

800
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: one step deeper as far as that too. When you're

801
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: negotiating with private investors, typical companies are going to go

802
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: straight to the venture capitalists most expensive money. The way

803
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: to even micro structure that is, you go to wealthy individuals,

804
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: wealthy families, wealthy family run businesses. Is that what you

805
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: guys have, Tyson, Yeah, And that's how they do it

806
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: because that yields the best deal for the customer. So

807
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: what's what's the spread in the worst deal, the bad deal.

808
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: As far as for the listeners and potential people who

809
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs out there that are thinking, I want to do this,

810
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know what is the cost? I mean,

811
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: how do you make your money? So to speak? What

812
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: is the cost for a capital raise like that? Um?

813
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: What is it? What are good terms and what are

814
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: bad terms? So as far as dollars, there's upfront costs.

815
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: When you're if you're going to start a pizza shop,

816
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna put down. So if you're sparring a hundred

817
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to start a pizza shop, you're gonna put

818
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: thirty five thou dollars down. If you go with an

819
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: SBA loan. If you're raising eight million dollars, because we

820
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: have here's the three deals we've got going eight seven

821
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: million dollars, one half million dollars and an eighty million

822
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: dollar real estate deal. If you are doing if you're

823
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: trying to raise that type of money for your business, well,

824
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: then there are upfront costs. And what they are is

825
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: there's something I towards you. The preliminary prospectives, the private

826
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: placement memorandum, those are legal documents that are required. That's

827
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: the language of the investors, and you can google these prices.

828
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: They range anywhere in price from fifties, sixty, seventy, even

829
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars. We have a price. It's sixty tho

830
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: dollars for those two documents. Then you put a deposit

831
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: down towards the capital raise. So it's a hundred thousand

832
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: dollars that needs to be invested up front to raise

833
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars. We don't take on deals

834
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: unless we know that they can get done. What's just like,

835
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: what's the smallest deal? You'll take five million million? So

836
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: that that I need to start up? What's that got

837
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: a CBDs that law seed need dot com? We need

838
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: to start up. We need five million. Let's do it

839
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: right now because we can do this for you. We

840
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: can start now. I'm serious. It's an easy process. We

841
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: mix it with. It's the best process to do it with.

842
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: So go ahead. Well, the people that I work with,

843
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: they've raised over four billion dollars in money for businesses.

844
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: They've been doing it for thirty years. We've been doing

845
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: financing for lots of years. But I've got ten months

846
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: in the private money game. But when they saw what

847
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: we brought to them with the cannabis and the hemp industry.

848
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: They've and I told them, I said, you know, I'm

849
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: going on the pop Brothers at law. I said, do

850
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: you you guys, do you plan on retiring next year

851
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: or how long you're gonna go for They said, bring it, Paul,

852
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: bring it as much as you can. So I've got

853
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: I've got the keys to go out and fund as

854
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: many deals as I can. Well, I think we might

855
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: be able to help your news. Yeah, that's crazy. Matter

856
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: of fact, I'm gonna jump you on a call after

857
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: this show with somebody who is a social equity owner

858
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: and is looking i think for five million right now.

859
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much. So I'll ask for

860
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: my cut later. We'll work it out. That's fair. That's

861
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: I want to offer you guys to cut that. I'm

862
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: here to do that too. I mean, this is so

863
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: interesting because there's so many places. Yeah, there's so many

864
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: places out there and so many guys and companies that

865
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: need that. I mean, even the young lady that we

866
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: talked to Craig from um Uh, Canada, who you know,

867
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: was looking for money right away. What was her name again?

868
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: Actually Knewsome, which her dispensaries that she did. But I

869
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: mean she got her money and she did it, and

870
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people out of here this could be

871
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: their golden ticket, you know, can I can I further

872
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: describe it real quickly. I loved hearing it. By the way,

873
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: thank You're walking us down a great path. Thank you.

874
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't even staring at Craig's hairline. So it's like, uh,

875
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: we have an ongoing thing that every show I have

876
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: to give him one good job. So that's eight shows

877
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: in a row. Everybody here's got hair except me. Well,

878
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: yours looks really good on the floor. Well, so it's

879
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: not cheap to raise tens of millions of dollars and

880
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: and uh, at first us sounds scary when somebody says

881
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: to you a hundred thousand up front, but if you

882
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: research it, because I did a lot and what my

883
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: group that I'm now, I exclusively work with them. I'm

884
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: not looking for anybody else to work with. These guys

885
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: have done so much for us personally, given us all

886
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: the knowledge that they didn't have to do to put

887
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: us out here. So we can bring deals obviously to them.

888
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: We're all going to make money on it. But So

889
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: the process is, if you do have a hundred thousand

890
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: dollars to start up, then I collect information, I write

891
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: a white paper, I do a scope outline. I send

892
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: it to my friends Bill and staff. They take seven

893
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: to ten days to review it and determine if they

894
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: want to work on the project. If they don't want

895
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: to work on it is because they don't feel that

896
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: it would be successful and they're not going to just

897
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: take sixty dollars for paperwork because they have turned down

898
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: deals that I've brought to them and they said, we

899
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: just don't take people's money. So when you're raising capital,

900
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: you would also want to have the people who write

901
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: those books for you because it takes two months to

902
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: do a prospectus and two months to do a private

903
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: placement memorandum. They're very detailed, they're worked on by expensive people.

904
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Addresses every risk, every factor. Financial forecasts are made according

905
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: to the American Institute of Certified Public's Accountants standards, which

906
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: are you know, worldwide accredited. When investors see it that

907
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: is prepared to that level, that's what they say yes

908
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: or no. One if that information is created and brought

909
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: to them by people that they've already done deals with

910
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: and have comfort with anyways, chances of success are just

911
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: keep on rising. So that's the level of these guys.

912
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: I hate to brag about them so much, but that

913
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: sounds good, am I hearing? Though I give you a

914
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: hundred thousand? Is it I pay up front? And you

915
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 1: turn me down that I'm asked out of a hundred

916
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: grandar is gonna guarantee if I pay a hundred grand

917
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: to move forward on a five million dollar project? Ten

918
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: million dollar project? Is it guaranteed? Or do I put

919
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: the hunter grand up with? Still no guaranteed. Nothing in

920
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: the world is ever guaranteed. We know that there's two

921
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: for sure, and Pitt and I being pulled over by

922
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: being harassed that's a guaranteed too, So so no, it's guaranteed.

923
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: Not absolutely nothing's guaranteed. And that's actually in the contract

924
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: that we put in there, and it's not guaranteed. But

925
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: so a hundred grand I gotta put up for these

926
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: paper Now you're making it sound in a bad way. Well,

927
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: of course, because of course I'm giving you the Devil's advocate, yep,

928
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: And I don't mind that. So you judge on who.

929
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: Here's here's how the process works. Um, you meet them

930
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: on a zoom call. After I create the info the

931
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: eyeball it decide if it's a project that they want

932
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: to work on. We set up a zoom meeting. We

933
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: all meet, You receive a booklet on them, knowing who

934
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: they are, knowing the history of their executive team, and

935
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: the zoom call. At that zoom call, you could decide

936
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: to do business with them. You could get the contract,

937
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: or you could take it a step further, which all

938
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: of our clients have done. They've come to Cleveland and

939
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: met in person. And that's a good thing to do.

940
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: If you're going to spend a hundred thousand dollars, why

941
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: not right? But why does it cost that much money?

942
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: I have to justify it, just like when you when

943
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: I sold cars. You have to justify the truth money

944
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: with the truth. So these are legal documents that are

945
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: required to be used in these types of capital raises.

946
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: And they're worked on by people who don't make an hour.

947
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: They're worked on by attorney level people a lot a

948
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: lot per hour. Okay, it takes too it's not serious.

949
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: You can yeah, you see what I'm saying. It's sec stuff.

950
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: So this industrial hemp processing plant for example, UM, the

951
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: preliminary prospectus. It's forecasts are verified by the ai CPE standards. UM,

952
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: they're sourced, they're detailed, they're there risks. The risks are

953
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: identified and then mitigated through facts, and those facts are sourced.

954
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: This is not a business plan that somebody writes is

955
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: extremely detailed book to success. That prospectus is the basis

956
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: for the private placement memorandum, which is the sec requires

957
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: when you sell shares of your company. So nothing is

958
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: guaranteed at all in the world. But when they take

959
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: a project on, here's their motivation. Their motivation is not

960
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: to get paid for paperwork, because they've already turned down

961
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: deals that I brought them for paperwork. Only they don't

962
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: want that. They want to be on for the full

963
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: ride the capital raise because the charges seven to eight

964
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: percent of the capital raised. That's a lot of money

965
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: to make, you know what I mean, And that is

966
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: what it costs to raise that type of money. So

967
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: any company that engages like this wants to go for

968
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: the full ride, not the just do the paperwork. No guarantees,

969
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: but it is a good investment. Does does that all?

970
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: Is that? All it costs them? Though? To play is

971
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: hunter Grand, and then after that it's do they is

972
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: it more out of pocket or hey, if it doesn't go,

973
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: then you lost out. If it does, then you just raised,

974
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, ten million dollars less your fees. Well, we

975
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: don't get paid unless we raise the full amount. So

976
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: if we raise of it, we don't get that seven

977
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: or eight percent of it, So we only What I'm

978
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: saying though, is he doesn't the client pays no more

979
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: than that initial up front. No, it's thirty five thousand

980
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: for the preliminary prospectus, is twenty five thousand for the

981
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: private placement memorandum, and then there's a forty dollar deposit

982
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: put down towards the capital raise and the capital raise

983
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: and one of our deals is estimated to be four

984
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: months long. The capital raise and the fiber processing plan

985
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: because it's such a brand new industry, is estimated to

986
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: take six months. But my, my, my, My question was

987
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: the only amount, and they don't have to put up

988
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: more money? Has anybody put up the huntre grand and

989
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: they haven't got the loan? Well, we got our first

990
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: two deals going right now, So one gentleman hasn't put

991
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: he's put up the hundred grand two of them have

992
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: put up the hunder Grand and both of an action

993
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: going yeah, in action going forward. My customers are thrilled.

994
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: Anybody who wants to work with us, My customers will

995
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: take a call with you and they'll tell you that

996
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: they're happy with the progress and the process. So if

997
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: you're interesting, and I'm guessing there's major vetting going on

998
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: before the Hunter's thrown down. As far as you go

999
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: on both ends, yeah, especially you're coming out of the pocket,

1000
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: you gotta go, Paul white House, let me look up

1001
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: everything before I do anything, which of course we always

1002
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: encourage and Mark and Craig and everybody else saying anytime you'

1003
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: spen ten dollars, for God's sakes, no where you're spending it,

1004
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: let alone a Hunter grant. If you're looking even on

1005
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: both I mean on both sides. Once that Hunter Grands paid,

1006
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, they're doing all this work for the capital raise,

1007
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: so they don't want to get into a deal that

1008
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: you know, Hunter Grands is a lot of money, but

1009
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: in relation to what they're raising, they don't want to

1010
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: go alf through, go through the whole process and realize, hey,

1011
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: this wasn't such a good deal. We shouldn't have done it. Well,

1012
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, you hit the nail right on the

1013
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: head right there. They vet the deals also. They don't

1014
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: want to work on a deal that they're not gonna

1015
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: come to the success. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't

1016
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: make sense. Yeah, they don't want to put that money

1017
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: up to do that. And so you guys are dealing

1018
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: with a lot of cannabis companies now. They're doing it

1019
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: from hamp to th HC right for both sides of it.

1020
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: The website Patriot BFC, So that's p A t R

1021
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: I O T b FC dot com. Check them out.

1022
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one on one. We've come back, Paul

1023
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: white House. We're gonna do the high five with you.

1024
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: We've never done it with the next police officer. I'm

1025
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of excited. We'll be right back after this. Welcome

1026
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: back to Cannabis Talk one on one. I'm here with

1027
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: Joe Grande myself. We've got me officer from ex officer

1028
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: from Ohio. And I just lost my screen Joe white House,

1029
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: because I know you couldn't remember. I just lost my screen.

1030
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: And not only that, I'm seeing you just bumble over

1031
00:52:54,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: there like a Bethoon. My name is Craig Wasserman older brothers. Mom,

1032
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: give me a break. That was pretty funny. You know

1033
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the joint that he

1034
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: just smoked. Once again, that was the screen you guys,

1035
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: So don't give us that anecdote of evidence again saying, look,

1036
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: what happened. You just smoked the whole joint that if

1037
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: no matter what, And I've seen the joint you were

1038
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: smoking earlier. That thing was huge. Did you finish it yet? Oh?

1039
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: I haven't taken any more hits of that, but you

1040
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: smoked another one? Oh yeah, this is a yeah, not

1041
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: not nothing like that. When I brought home that he

1042
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: had like a cigar joint two grams in it and

1043
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 1: was it glass? What's it called in there? Diamond tip?

1044
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean wash? Yeah. It was basically the biggest biggs

1045
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: my cigar smoken. So it's now time for the high

1046
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: fi with former police officer Paul white House and all

1047
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: his new ventures that he's doing with cannabis. With cannabis

1048
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: loaning patriot BFC dot com is the websites question number

1049
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: one for you, Paul? How old you the first time

1050
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: you smoked weed? And where'd you get it from? I

1051
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: think I was fourteen years old. I think it was

1052
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: her friend Mike Webb held this out him. Mike Webb,

1053
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: I think it was eighth grade. I think that's that's cool.

1054
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: Or are you guys at what we at school? Probably

1055
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: I actually don't totally remember. I just know it was

1056
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: the eighth grade and eighth grade sometime good times. Question

1057
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: number two the high five, What is your favorite way

1058
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: to use cannabis? I just smoke it, that's all. I

1059
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: joint white papers, blunt school joint. That's an old school joint. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Question number three, craziest place you ever used cannabis? Please

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00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: say a cop car we're working. That'd be fucking awesome, right,

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00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: he just hold on before I go to shift. I

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00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: told you not to talk about that. Oh sorry, I

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00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: didn't know if that was I'm teasing. I made that

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00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: story yet I think teasing. I don't know if this

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00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: is craziest or not. I almost think it should be normal.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I used to raise third bikes and I

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00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: was racing in hair scrambles and those are like three

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Speaker 1: hour races. Well I had no pit crew. I it's

1070
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: just me, right, so everybody else got a pit crew man.

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00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: They pulled up people gas them up, they take off.

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00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: They're concerned about winning. I just want to get in

1073
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: there and past people. I don't care if I'm winning.

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00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: I just want to get in there and get into it.

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00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: So i'd pull off the track, go over to my truck,

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Speaker 1: Gas up, spark one up. I got a full face

1077
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: helme with on. I'm back in the race. Oh that's

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00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: pretty crazy and awesome story. And you're able to focus

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00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: like crazy right in that race, right when that happens

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Speaker 1: like that? That that that just shows you, Joe. That's

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00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: my point I've been trying to make all this time.

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00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: I suggest operating operating heavy machinery. I've done it now.

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Speaker 1: But and don't don't you agree though, that that weed

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00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: or cannabis that if it actually does impair you unlike alcohol,

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00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: that someone most people who use cannabis either will not

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00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: do it before they ride their you know, motocross if

1087
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: it does affect him that way. Uh, they won't do it. Yeah,

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00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: if it did, they wouldn't do it. For I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you drank six beers, you couldn't part. How many

1090
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Speaker 1: people would drink six beers and right a dirt bike?

1091
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: How many people drink six beers and drive the car.

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00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: I hear what he's saying, and when we have this argument,

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Speaker 1: I say, people are just so fucking stupid in general.

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Speaker 1: Though when you look at everyone, you can't look at

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: the normal intelligent cannabis you consumer and say, those guys

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00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. You're right, But how many of

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00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: those who aren't those guys or girls who know how

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00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: to handle their cannabis do do that? And that's where

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00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: there are those as well. Yes, I see that. I

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00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: think there's more people though that that if you're impaired

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00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: by cannabis, that's just like saying there's more good will

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: not engage in the activity if they're too high, if

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00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: you're drunk, you can fucking drives up to say to you,

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Speaker 1: Pitt wants to argue with you, Go ahead, Pitt, No,

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00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I want to argue with you, want ue.

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00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is that at two group

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: said I said this before. When a person drinks too

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00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: much alcohol and they black out, they'd be still moving

1109
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: around like there's nothing like, they're still sober, like that,

1110
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: they're still cool. If you smoke too much cannabis and

1111
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: you black out, you're going to sleep. You're black. So

1112
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Speaker 1: it's a difference between smoking and drinking well, but it

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Speaker 1: is a good one. I agree with you, but that's

1114
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. But I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying, and the great thing is is ex

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Speaker 1: police officer Paul white House agreed with me, is that

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Speaker 1: there are those people, which is, you guys are referring

1118
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: to the good cannabis users who are proper and smart

1119
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: and know how to do it. I said, when you

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Speaker 1: look at people in general, you guys are consistently looking

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Speaker 1: at those ones. I'm saying because in eight years of

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Speaker 1: my house, never once took someone in for d y,

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Speaker 1: which means he felt they were impaired, doesn't mean he

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00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: never see anybody. Let's did you ever see any wrong

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00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: off smoking weed alone? Cannabis alone? Like, dude, you've had

1126
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: too much? You're being an idiot? Are they're sitting on

1127
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: the curve with their shirt off because they're all stoned?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's gotta be a certain scenario. Maybe there

1129
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be, but there doesn't doesn't have one.

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Speaker 1: Question number four has an answer hold on not only

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Speaker 1: former officer, but current owner of Patriot Business Finance Consultants,

1132
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Speaker 1: who does cannabis financing? But yes, no, I haven't. I mean,

1133
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Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking. I I can relate

1134
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: to what you're saying. And I know for a fact.

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00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, when you're growing up, when you're a teenager,

1136
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: you see somebody who made it just first time smoked

1137
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: to join or something like that, or third time or

1138
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: twentieth time and there. But in my opinion, the vast

1139
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: majority can just maneuver around on it. Yeah, and I'm

1140
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: not saying they can't just talk about that mine or

1141
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: a question number four though I'm right again by the ways.

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Speaker 1: Number four, what is your go to monthies after you

1143
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: get high? Nothing? I don't get munchies. Watch out, you're

1144
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: getting robbed, I think, Craig, you know what. That's funny.

1145
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: That's funny because I don't either anymore. Yeah, no more.

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00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: Number five, Question number five, who's that hot chick behind you?

1147
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Speaker 1: Is there too? Is that's your mom? There too? Hey there,

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Speaker 1: hot pants? Come over here, look at your mother. Part

1149
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Speaker 1: of the show. Hi, Bernie, how are you Hi? You

1150
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: can talk? Hi? Can you see me? We're interviewing. You're live,

1151
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: You're live on the show. No Mark had to leave.

1152
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: We kicked him off the show. Mark had to go

1153
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Speaker 1: take care of his mother in law, so as my

1154
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Speaker 1: mother in law didn't do too well from the Yeah,

1155
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Speaker 1: we'll tell you about it, but good to see you though. Always. Geez,

1156
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Speaker 1: look at you. Question number five, Joe. Question number five

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Speaker 1: with the High five with former police officer Paul white

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Speaker 1: House and go to his website Patriot BFC dot com

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Speaker 1: number five, If you could smoke with anyone dead are alive,

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Speaker 1: who would it be and why? So? There was four

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Speaker 1: of them, but one of them is here right now.

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00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be you. Yeah, I've always with

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: that's right, Wow, and everybody else here, but there was

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Speaker 1: four of them. I mean I missed those days, Craig

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Speaker 1: and Blue. That's why I drove here, man. I drove

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Speaker 1: here for you to say us Right now, just getting

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Speaker 1: it makes my I can't. I'm almost gonna cry right now.

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Speaker 1: That's hey, come by tomorrow morning and we'll stand around

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01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: and I'll have our own joints. Are you gonna be

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow? Then come by. Everybody will be here tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and want to come by in the morning. We'll hang

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Speaker 1: out in the backyard. We'll do a tip of the

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Speaker 1: day that sounds awesome. Love it back I mean my

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Speaker 1: backyard all right. If you look downstairs, most of the

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Speaker 1: tips of the day are right there in that parking

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Speaker 1: lot literally, so that's where you'll smoke as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you man. It's great to have you and it's

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Speaker 1: great to hear Craig. We were the first time. This

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Speaker 1: That was you white House, You motherfucker. Can I tell

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Speaker 1: you guys a real funny story? All right? I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of funny I got too many of them,

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Speaker 1: but I'll just tell you one real quick one. So

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Speaker 1: I'm driving down it's a dark road, right, I see too,

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Speaker 1: Hardy's blast past me. They're they're they're eighty or ninety.

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Speaker 1: I flip around, I chase him. And I had a

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Speaker 1: lot of wild friends growing up. Right. One goes straight,

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Speaker 1: one turns right. I go right. We go through a

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Speaker 1: bunch of curves, he stops, he gets off the bike,

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Speaker 1: turns around. I had the lights on him. I was

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Speaker 1: out of the car and I recognized who he was

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Speaker 1: and it was my friend Drew, and I walk up

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Speaker 1: to him. He gets down on his face. I'm like, Drew,

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Speaker 1: get up, there's more coming. Get going out here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is what he does. This is what he does.

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Speaker 1: He got up, He looks at me. He goes because

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Speaker 1: my last name is white House, he goes, is that

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Speaker 1: you whitey? I was like, yeah, get going, man, that's

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Speaker 1: a fucking great one. Drew had to be like, thank god,

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Speaker 1: And when did you go? I don't know where he went.

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Speaker 1: He got lost and I was chasing him. He went

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Speaker 1: that way. Yep. You know what. I don't care what

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Speaker 1: these guys were saying about you, Paul Whitehouse. You're a

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Speaker 1: good dude. In my book, Greig, I don't like Texas that,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we just need more law enforcement, Like

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Speaker 1: this is what we need. And it's really true, because

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Speaker 1: you know what, I do agree with you, Paul, that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of great cops. And I knew a

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Speaker 1: lot of them. I was. I was a bouncer and

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Speaker 1: head of security before I got into radio, and I

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Speaker 1: hung out with a lot of dudes and party with

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Speaker 1: a lot of them, and and they were straight while

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Speaker 1: they're you know, just being buddies with me. And while

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Speaker 1: they're patrolling, they gave a lot of people breaks. So

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Speaker 1: it's not it's just funny how a couple of bad

1242
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Speaker 1: apples can really funk it up for the police department.

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Speaker 1: And there's I mean, there's a lot of bad apples

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Speaker 1: out there, don't get me wrong in my book, but

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Speaker 1: it's just good to have a good one and a

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Speaker 1: good to have a good cop. X cop come on

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Speaker 1: here with us. It's doing stuff in the financial game

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Speaker 1: of cannabis. So best of luck to you with that

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Speaker 1: once again. His website Patriot BFC dot com. Go check

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