Speaker 1: What's poppin congregation? Is your girl? Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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Speaker 2: God, Rub and run scam, Come, Rub and froll Goddess. Hi,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Scam Goddess. As you've heard, I'm here with
Speaker 2: James Mastriani. Yes, Oh my gosh, I've known James for
Speaker 2: a few years now.
Speaker 3: Like are you, oh, longer than that.
Speaker 1: That's as long as I've been in La, So as
Speaker 1: long as we could have known each other.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, wow, I thought for sure. It seems
Speaker 3: like long ago. I guess I know it really does.
Speaker 3: Maybe I just know you well enough that it just
Speaker 3: it seems like we've been friends for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something a scammer would say too. Guys, I've
Speaker 1: known you since childhood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've known each other so long.
Speaker 1: Believe that now what I'm saying about the social Yeah, well, James,
Speaker 1: you have to tell me, like, what's your relationship with scams?
Speaker 1: Have you been in any scams?
Speaker 3: Have you You know, I am as an adult, I'm
Speaker 3: not really I'm not really a scam type of person.
Speaker 1: I damn shade you call right, I'm a child.
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying you're an adult with with loose moral
Speaker 3: uh fiber.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I you know, my my parents have been the victims
Speaker 3: of scams because my parents are like older, and I
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of scams target older people for sure,
Speaker 3: for sure, but you know, honestly, I just don't think
Speaker 3: that I would be very good at it, like just
Speaker 3: in general scamming.
Speaker 1: Why not, Like, do you have an experience where you.
Speaker 3: Tried I do, Actually yeah, I had so. But this
Speaker 3: is like a uh so, this this is a scam
Speaker 3: I tried to pull when I was in high school.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and I was seventeen, and so just a
Speaker 3: little bit of backstory. Uh So, first of all, I
Speaker 3: should say, audience, we're just getting color.
Speaker 1: Audience, the congregation, Okay, the congregation.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would just like to say, first of all,
Speaker 3: we don't know each other, and this story makes me
Speaker 3: sound not great, Okay, So I would say, give me
Speaker 3: a little bit of the benefit of the doubts.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're seventeen, I'm seventeen years old with a booming
Speaker 1: deep voice.
Speaker 3: Exactly, with a booming deep voice. And so a little
Speaker 3: bit of backstory. My uh so, growing up, my mom
Speaker 3: was disabled. Ryan, She was in a wheelchair, and so
Speaker 3: if you know, for a lot of people that are
Speaker 3: in wheelchairs, you have to have like very specific types
Speaker 3: of vehicles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and handicap pass So you got to park in
Speaker 1: the front of.
Speaker 3: Everything everything front front line at every amusement park, which, oh,
Speaker 3: here's a minor scam we used to do because my
Speaker 3: mom couldn't go on rides, but we would use her
Speaker 3: to get to the front of the line at an
Speaker 3: and then lever and then just like sort of let
Speaker 3: her sit there. I think.
Speaker 1: Now of your mom happy to sit there while you're
Speaker 1: on Splash Mountain is hilarious and maybe a little sad,
Speaker 1: But I think your mom probably was also proud that
Speaker 1: she loved it help her kids.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, it helped make her, you know, it felt
Speaker 3: to her like made her feel needed, I guess. But
Speaker 3: so when my mom's insurance improved approved of a new
Speaker 3: disabled van, I got my mom's old van, which was
Speaker 3: a nineteen eighty eight Dodge conversion van with a wheelchair
Speaker 3: lift out this side right.
Speaker 1: For a kid, this must have been a dream.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was a dream. And at this point, like,
Speaker 3: I'm a big stoner, and so I turned it into
Speaker 3: this big exactly, I turned it into this big smoking van.
Speaker 3: Like I took the seats out and replaced them with
Speaker 3: bean bag chairs, put up like beads and black lights
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. And uh, this this story is
Speaker 3: also just seeping with white privilege, because there's no like
Speaker 3: I should have been arrested multiple times for all of this.
Speaker 3: But so one night, we're in my basement. My parents
Speaker 3: used to go to bed very early, and I used
Speaker 3: to have friends over to come and hang in my
Speaker 3: in my basement and smoking.
Speaker 1: You were that friend who like hosts things and stuff.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, oh man, my parents are asleep at you know,
Speaker 3: eight eight thirty. Come on over, we'll get higher, we'll chill.
Speaker 1: What kind of sleep is this? They don't hear shit?
Speaker 3: No, No, I.
Speaker 1: Mean like maybe I fucking crack my ass upstairs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I was a petty sleeper.
Speaker 3: That's really funny. Now, my parents the deep, deep sleepers
Speaker 3: and Uh, well, we'll get we'll get to that part
Speaker 3: of the story. So we were all smoking weed, but
Speaker 3: we decided like and so I'm all high and shit,
Speaker 3: and we're like, oh man, you know, we're only seventeen.
Speaker 3: We're like, I want to get some booze right level exactly,
Speaker 3: let's take this part of the next level. And I
Speaker 3: was like, how we're trying to come up with an idea, Like,
Speaker 3: how do we get some booze? Right? We're not twenty one.
Speaker 3: None of us have fakes right when the scam comes in.
Speaker 3: This is where the scam comes in. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think I have an idea. And so my mom
Speaker 3: had two different wheelchairs. She had a regular wheelchair and
Speaker 3: then she had a really dope like a like a scooter.
Speaker 1: Wheel yeah, electric one.
Speaker 3: An electric one, yeah, and which she used to keep
Speaker 3: charged in her bedroom. So I tell my friend, like,
Speaker 3: pull my van around front and lower the ramp and
Speaker 3: I'll be right back. And I went upstairs and I
Speaker 3: went into my parents' bedroom while they were sleeping, and
Speaker 3: I unplugged her electric wheelchair and I slowly start scooting it,
Speaker 3: you know, out of the bedroom.
Speaker 1: So you're like doing it with like it's like exactly, like.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, Like I would go back a little
Speaker 3: bit and then they would start and I would just
Speaker 3: freeze because I'm also like, if my parents wake up
Speaker 3: right now and they see me in the middle of
Speaker 3: their bedroom in the dark, highest shit, sitting in my
Speaker 3: mom's wheelchair one, if I'm there at them, I'm like,
Speaker 3: is it like, is he here to kill us? Like?
Speaker 3: What is what the fuck is going on? Exactly? It's
Speaker 3: so freaky. And so you know, I'm doing this thing.
Speaker 3: I'm slowly backing it out and I'm going backwards too,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to back my way out in the dark.
Speaker 3: And so I finally get it out and I grab
Speaker 3: a blanket because in this mid in the in in
Speaker 3: my head, this is going to help make it better.
Speaker 3: So I pull it into into the van. I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, here's what we're gonna do. Pull up to
Speaker 3: the liquor store, right, make sure that the owner sees
Speaker 3: you lower the wheelchair ramp or the yeah, the wheelchair
Speaker 3: ramp out the side. I put this play it on
Speaker 3: my lap because I thought it made me look more disabled,
Speaker 3: and I was like, there's no way that they're going
Speaker 3: to ask me for ID if they think that, like,
Speaker 3: I'm disabled, right, and I'll just go in, I'll grab
Speaker 3: a couple of bottles and uh, it'll be it'll be great. Right.
Speaker 1: So this youthful teenage boy is now has a blanket
Speaker 1: over him in an electric wheelchair. I do have to say, James,
Speaker 1: that you are a scammer because the confidence level of
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna go unplug an electric mobile vehic card
Speaker 1: right then I'm going to back it up in the dark.
Speaker 1: I'm also high, so I'm a little impaired and all
Speaker 1: this so that my parents don't realize that I'm doing it, Like,
Speaker 1: that's an extreme amount of confidence. Yeah, And so now
Speaker 1: you're also the one who's the most confident enough to
Speaker 1: roll into this convenience store and play the sympathy card
Speaker 1: to buy alcohol.
Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, yeah, I guess that's true. Maybe I am
Speaker 3: a scammer. And so I go in and immediately and
Speaker 3: I don't know why this makes me laugh, but I
Speaker 3: guess it's it's just that age of like the kind
Speaker 3: of alcohol you drink. But I picked up a bottle
Speaker 3: of Captain Morgan's and a bottle of ninety nine bananas oh,
Speaker 3: it's like the two that I got for for us faded.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, nine bananas ninety nine berries was really bad. But
Speaker 3: I used to do the same ship. And so I take,
Speaker 3: you know, I take the wheelchair up to the counter
Speaker 3: and I put the and and so I'm like pretending
Speaker 3: to be like kind of frail and I put put
Speaker 3: the Oh it gets worse, it gets worse, congregation, it
Speaker 3: gets worse, And I'm so sorry for this. And so
Speaker 3: I put the bottles on on the the thing. And
Speaker 3: by the way, I'm the only person in the liquor store.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, nobody distractions.
Speaker 3: No distractions, which I wish there would have been. I
Speaker 3: feel like if it would have been busier, it would
Speaker 3: have been easier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you had some other friends had come
Speaker 1: in and maybe bought snacks or something. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I go in and I put the bottles down,
Speaker 3: and the guy's like, hey, I gotta see some id
Speaker 3: And in my head I was like fuck immediately this
Speaker 3: is what he asked me. So I'm like, okay, pretend
Speaker 3: you didn't hear them.
Speaker 1: So are you trying to make yourself daft? Dude?
Speaker 3: Oh it gets worse, it gets worse. So I pretend
Speaker 3: not to hear them, and I just pushed the bottles
Speaker 3: further towards him, and I put some cash on the thing,
Speaker 3: and he goes, hey, man, I'm sorry, but I got
Speaker 3: to see some id I got to make sure you're
Speaker 3: over twenty one and so this at this point, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I have to double down. So I then put on
Speaker 3: an affectation no that I am mentally disabled. No, j
Speaker 3: I still remember the exact thing that I said. Oh God,
Speaker 3: and so cong gation, please stick with me here, and this.
Speaker 1: Is we all we all stray, guys.
Speaker 3: Okay, we all stray. I was seventeen, this.
Speaker 1: Is not twenty fourteen, and nobody was wok he.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody was woke. Nobody's woke. Believe me. I feel
Speaker 3: terrible about this. Uh. And I looked at him and
Speaker 3: I said, please, no, I was so much pain, just like.
Speaker 1: That JAP was all horrible. But I do have to say,
Speaker 1: the dedications are not just bailing on this.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, because I think I would have just reversed.
Speaker 1: That joint and been like we're here atly out of
Speaker 1: the store.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so he looks at me for a moment
Speaker 3: and he goes, I know who you are. He goes,
Speaker 3: and this is like an old, middle aged white guy,
Speaker 3: and there was this restaurant next door called Frishes. He's like,
Speaker 3: I've seen your I've seen your van, I've seen you
Speaker 3: and your friend smoking weed outside the restaurant all the time.
Speaker 3: I know you're not in a wheelchair, and i know
Speaker 3: you're not old enough to be in here, so I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give you two seconds to get the fuck out
Speaker 3: of my store otherwise I'm calling the police.
Speaker 1: As fucking exactly.
Speaker 3: The whole fucking time he knew. He was just like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let this dumb fucking kid. I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: this dumb kid just do this whole bit. I'm maneuvering
Speaker 3: my way through these narrow ass liquor aisles in this wheelchair.
Speaker 3: And I immediately fess up and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: so sorry. I shouldn't have done this. I just my
Speaker 3: friends and I were just trying to have a good time,
Speaker 3: and he was like, get the fuck out, and but
Speaker 3: the funny thing is I was like, yes, absolutely, and
Speaker 3: I started I started moving the wheelchair and I got
Speaker 3: it stuck in the door on the way to the exit.
Speaker 3: Like trying to leave, and I couldn't maneuver it, and
Speaker 3: I had to get up out of the wheelchair and
Speaker 3: try to like drag it through this narrow door, all
Speaker 3: while this dude is staring daggers straight through me, and
Speaker 3: I just sheepishly like pulled back into, you know, back
Speaker 3: into the van.
Speaker 1: James, when the jig was up, why didn't you just
Speaker 1: get out of the wheelchair and push it out of
Speaker 1: the store.
Speaker 3: Because it's heavy as fuck, Like it's this big motorized wheelchair,
Speaker 3: Like you can't really push it and you have to
Speaker 3: like use the handle and then because when it got stuck,
Speaker 3: I had like use the handle and then like maneuver
Speaker 3: it through the door because it was like a wide wheelchair.
Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate this man's petty for letting you do
Speaker 1: all of this before he told you. He even lets
Speaker 1: you do another He let you dig yourself into a
Speaker 1: deep asshole before he finally was like, I know who
Speaker 1: you are, James. I think that this scam would have
Speaker 1: worked if you had gone somewhere that wasn't a place
Speaker 1: that you go all of the time. You can't go
Speaker 1: to your loco, You hang out in front of this place.
Speaker 3: Jay, Literally, the liquor store was next to the restaurant
Speaker 3: where like four of my friends worked. Oh and so
Speaker 3: we would just go get free food there and get
Speaker 3: high around back, you know, almost every day. So for some.
Speaker 1: Reason, so you insulted that man's intelligence.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I insulted a lot of people's intelligence. I insulted
Speaker 3: my own intelligence. I insulted my mother, who you know,
Speaker 3: has to endure the suffering of being disabled, and I
Speaker 3: exploited that to try to get ninety nine bananas for
Speaker 3: me and my friends. She also has never heard this story.
Speaker 1: Wow, so you put the chair back. She never noticed.
Speaker 3: She's never noticed I took the chair home. I took
Speaker 3: it back. I put it right back where it was.
Speaker 3: Plug that shit back in.
Speaker 1: I think you got enough punishment from the liquor store man.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think I would love to hear his
Speaker 3: version of that story.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he loves that story because he godd you on.
Speaker 1: Like he probably saw from a second that you came
Speaker 1: in and knew exactly what you were doing, saw you
Speaker 1: pick up the liquor bottles, all you driving around the store.
Speaker 3: He was like, okay, please, I know he knew, Like
Speaker 3: he probably saw the van and immediately was like, what
Speaker 3: are these fucking idiots trying to do? And because he
Speaker 3: probably my van was so recognizable. The outside was completely graffitied,
Speaker 3: like it was just tagged up. So there's no way
Speaker 3: you wouldn't know what this van was.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 1: All you needed was some You needed a consultant. You
Speaker 1: had look, you had confidence, you had co gumption. You
Speaker 1: just needed somebody to get you with the logistics. Like
Speaker 1: your friends, none of them were thinking they were all
Speaker 1: just along for the ride. You one friend Tod be like, okay,
Speaker 1: but we got to park the van across the street.
Speaker 1: And also we can't go to.
Speaker 3: The place that we always I know, I know, I.
Speaker 1: Think without those two major factors, you would have gotten
Speaker 1: your lips around some ninety nine bananas.
Speaker 3: Probably. Yeah, I needed some scam goddess smartness.
Speaker 1: But we knew each other back then, James, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: That's right. We've known each other that long, scar God.
Speaker 1: So this is our segment what's hot in fraud? Guys.
Speaker 1: We don't want you to get scammed, at least not
Speaker 1: by other people. Okay, Now, if I call you and
Speaker 1: I need you to spin in a cup or give
Speaker 1: me a lock of your child's hair. You mail that
Speaker 1: to me, okay, because it's for a good cost. But
Speaker 1: if anybody else is trying to run game on you,
Speaker 1: we just can't allow it. So this is a segment
Speaker 1: where we'll talk a little bit about a fraud, a scam,
Speaker 1: a hoodwink that's really popular right now. So today we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about romance fraud. Guys, we've talked about
Speaker 1: romance fraud before, but the reason that I want to
Speaker 1: bring this up is because we actually got some legit
Speaker 1: numbers on romance fraud. James, do you know that romance
Speaker 1: fraud makes up about one hundred and forty three million
Speaker 1: dollars domestically in losses?
Speaker 3: What? Okay? So first of all, what is romance fraud?
Speaker 1: So romance fraud, which I already told you guys, love
Speaker 1: is a scam, stay woke. Look it's one we all participated.
Speaker 1: It's still a fucking scam. But romance fraud is where
Speaker 1: people talk on things like bumble Tender, Christian mingle grinder,
Speaker 1: and they talk to people who are looking for love
Speaker 1: and commitment as a means to defraud them out of
Speaker 1: small or large amounts of money.
Speaker 3: Interest.
Speaker 1: Yes, So in twenty eighteen, romance scams were the most
Speaker 1: expensive type of fraud scam and that's where we got
Speaker 1: that one hundred and forty three million dollars. And this
Speaker 1: actually comes from the Federal Trade Commission because you can report.
Speaker 1: If you, guys get scammed, you can report it to
Speaker 1: the Federal Trade Commission. Will you get your money back?
Speaker 1: Probably not, but maybe you're gonna save somebody else, Like
Speaker 1: come on, guys, that's that's good, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So some of the biggest scams are often military men
Speaker 1: on tender, which I think is a good one cause
Speaker 1: it's like men who are saying they're deployed fighting for
Speaker 1: their country overseas.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's fucked.
Speaker 1: And so it's like, how can you really say who's
Speaker 1: in the mill terry or not?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people in the military.
Speaker 3: And like that feels like it could easily appeal to
Speaker 3: like any sort of like maga type of person on tender,
Speaker 3: you know, like like an uber patriotic type of if.
Speaker 1: You're scamming mega people shout out to you, ye keep
Speaker 1: doing that shit.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: I will never discourage it and I will never report you.
Speaker 1: But I want to read one of the reports is
Speaker 1: somebody who actually got scammed by this? All okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm on the Federal Trade Commission website and they actually
Speaker 1: have consumer information because this is so popular, people getting
Speaker 1: scammed by online lovers or whatever. So their advice is one,
Speaker 1: never send money or gifts to a sweetheart you haven't
Speaker 1: met in person.
Speaker 3: It seems obvious, right, That seems super obvious.
Speaker 1: Take it slowly, ask questions and look for inconsistent answers.
Speaker 1: Check the person's photo using a search engine like Search
Speaker 1: by image Google. If the same picture shows up with
Speaker 1: a different name, that's a red flag.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Talk to someone about this new love entrance and take attention.
Speaker 1: And friends and family are concerned.
Speaker 3: That seems impractical, right Maybe I don't know. I feel
Speaker 3: like if well, no, I guess it. Yeah. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think of like if I were talking to something
Speaker 3: like I'm talking to somebody on hinge or whatever.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna tell people that you matched with someone
Speaker 1: on him?
Speaker 3: How would they know if they're How would somebody else
Speaker 3: know if they're a scammer?
Speaker 1: I think because what they're saying is like, maybe you
Speaker 1: don't realize this shit is weird. But if you say
Speaker 1: it out loud to somebody else, You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to this new man. His name is John Doe.
Speaker 1: He in the military. He said he needed six thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for his medical bills. I said, let's FaceTime before
Speaker 1: I send the money. He said, I ain't got no
Speaker 1: FaceTime out here in Bagdad. And I was like, are
Speaker 1: we still in bag Dad? He was like, I guess
Speaker 1: we are. We definitely are, for sure.
Speaker 3: That's really funny. That makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He said they're trying to get garbage to tear down
Speaker 1: that wall. And I was like, Okay, I'm here in Hanoi, Vietnam,
Speaker 1: and I've been station here for forty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they never brought all of us back.
Speaker 3: They never brought us back.
Speaker 1: They didn't tell you. But we're still fighting in the vita.
Speaker 1: So y'all remember Norman Dy you were, Yeah, he's still
Speaker 1: at Norman Dy So I wired him six thousand dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe your friend will be like, hey, girl, that
Speaker 1: war has been over for a long time.
Speaker 3: Let's open up the history books, shall we.
Speaker 1: And then the last one is if you suspect a
Speaker 1: romance scam, cut off contact right away. Then report the
Speaker 1: scam to FTC which is FTC dot gov slash complaint
Speaker 1: and notify the dating site where you met the scammer too. So, guys,
Speaker 1: if this has happened to you, you don't have to
Speaker 1: tell us, but also you should tell us email scam
Speaker 1: Goddess pod because we'd love to hear about it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. So the website went further. They made
Speaker 1: an instructional safety video for people who are online dating.
Speaker 1: And it's right behind you, James.
Speaker 3: And your lot shit.
Speaker 4: Looking for love and all the right places like popular
Speaker 4: dating sites, mobile apps, and social networking sites. Ron seems
Speaker 4: like a perfect match for you. He's thoughtful and says
Speaker 4: he can't live without you.
Speaker 1: Ron looks like a serial killer.
Speaker 4: He says he's from the US but works out of
Speaker 4: the country. He says he wants to visit, but says
Speaker 4: he can't afford it. He asks you to send him money.
Speaker 4: Last month it was medical bills for a sick ant
Speaker 4: need to fix his car. Next month, Ron wants your money,
Speaker 4: don't send it. The person pretending to be Ron is
Speaker 4: a scammer. He'll tell you anything to get you to
Speaker 4: wire cash right away. He'll never run out of excuses.
Speaker 4: If an online love interest asks you for money, walk away,
Speaker 4: no matter how compelling the story, reports at FTC dot
Speaker 4: com slash imposters, it's.
Speaker 3: So funny to me, and maybe that says a lot
Speaker 3: about uh my own personal relationship to my family. But
Speaker 3: like a sick aunt is not going to get me
Speaker 3: to give you money, Like why an aunt too far away? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like thinking about all my aunt like all my
Speaker 3: aunts like I can't I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: want them to be sick. But also like so.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even help your own sick aunt, is what
Speaker 1: you're saying. They could be like your sister's life.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't have the money first of all
Speaker 3: to help a sick aunt. Second of all, I haven't
Speaker 3: talked to aunts in years. Yeah, so because of your own.
Speaker 1: Close or not close personal relationship with aunts, you will
Speaker 1: be giving no money for somebody.
Speaker 3: Who's like I have a sick aunt. I'd be like,
Speaker 3: huh yeah, maybe a sick mom. Like why why do
Speaker 3: you choose an aunt? Why not?
Speaker 1: Because I think aunts, like you said, aren't people that
Speaker 1: you have to materialize. If it's the mom, it's like
Speaker 1: you should know where your mom is. But if it's
Speaker 1: your sick aunt, you can be like, oh, she's like
Speaker 1: in Albuquerque. I don't have any picture.
Speaker 3: It's just far enough removed to I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: That was a college excuse. I remember like in college,
Speaker 1: if I couldn't get a paper done in time, you
Speaker 1: kill off an ant kill you like, I'm so sorry, professor,
Speaker 1: but my aunt died and so I can't turn in
Speaker 1: this paper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and see if I were your professor, I'd be
Speaker 3: like lazy. I think I've talked to my aunts once
Speaker 3: in the last ten years. So you still got to
Speaker 3: do the paper and it's not good enough.
Speaker 1: Oh listen, I've been killing off the same aunt for
Speaker 1: so many And when when your mama do the funeral programs?
Speaker 1: So he's a photoshop on that sunset day. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd be like sunrise, like birthday in this sunset whenever
Speaker 1: I need it too.
Speaker 3: It's so funny.
Speaker 1: But I also what struck me about this video is
Speaker 1: that one it's a woman who they're warning about these scams,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so are they not including men in
Speaker 1: romance scams? Because is that just like culturally normative for
Speaker 1: women to like scam men out of money pretending that
Speaker 1: they love them. Oh interesting, because like it's about a woman,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about it, and I'm like, I know
Speaker 1: so many women who are out here is just getting
Speaker 1: shoes and bags and boob jobs and range rovers from dudes,
Speaker 1: and no one calls that a scam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: You know what, Maybe it's because the woman's not getting
Speaker 1: anything in return, because everybody knows that dick.
Speaker 3: Is trash, right, Dick is trash. I do think, you know,
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's you know, maybe it's not the
Speaker 3: word scam in that situation, but it's more the idea
Speaker 3: of like some people enter into a more transactional relationship
Speaker 3: as opposed to a relationship of like mutuality. Right, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right, some like rich old dudes or just be
Speaker 3: like hey, like you said, love can be a scam
Speaker 3: where it's this thing of like, you know, it's a
Speaker 3: transactional relationship, I'll pay for your apartment or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right.
Speaker 1: And then I think for the most part, the women
Speaker 1: are actually like materializing, like they're showing up. They're not
Speaker 1: just like using I guess a fake photo. Like Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Because I was actually gonna say, I think I almost
Speaker 3: was the victim of this really of a romance scam. Maybe,
Speaker 3: Like so, I very briefly used Tinder a few years ago,
Speaker 3: and this instance is what got me off of Tinder.
Speaker 3: I haven't used it since. I had a woman like
Speaker 3: match with me on tender and we started talking, and
Speaker 3: from the beginning I was skeptical because like she was
Speaker 3: just way too enthusiastic, and like, you know, I'm thirty five,
Speaker 3: I pretty I know my place in the world. I
Speaker 3: know I'm not I know I'm not attractive enough to
Speaker 3: have a woman over the internet be that enthusiastic. Like
Speaker 3: I'm almost six foot. Maybe if I was six three,
Speaker 3: maybe that would be a thing where but it's not.
Speaker 3: I'm not tall enough, I'm not handsome enough. I'm bald.
Speaker 3: I know, I know my place.
Speaker 1: And she was not gonna agree with any of.
Speaker 3: This, And she was being really enthusiastic, and she was like,
Speaker 3: what did.
Speaker 1: She do that was like showing you, like over enthusiasm.
Speaker 3: She wanted to meet that night, she wanted to come
Speaker 3: see my place. She wanted to and I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if I feel comfortable, like
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe we can meet at a bar
Speaker 3: for a drink or something like that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not really big into like having somebody come straight
Speaker 3: over to my place anything like that. And then I
Speaker 3: changed the subject and I was like, so, what do
Speaker 3: you do for a living? And her response was that's
Speaker 3: what I want to talk to you about? And I
Speaker 3: was like, what, we don't huh, what do you mean
Speaker 3: we don't know each other? What do you want to
Speaker 3: talk to me about? And then she was just like
Speaker 3: started talking about her living situation and started talking about
Speaker 3: her She she was like a preschool teacher and you know,
Speaker 3: she'd just gotten laid off and like, and I was like,
Speaker 3: where the fuck is this heading? And I kind of
Speaker 3: got freaked out and I just deleted the app right
Speaker 3: there because I didn't ask any more questions. I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind like is it possible.
Speaker 1: To come to your house immediately.
Speaker 3: And talk to me about her works?
Speaker 1: Maybe she was homeless and she was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is out, Like I'll just get on Dinder and I'll
Speaker 1: find somebody and I'll go to their house that night,
Speaker 1: and then i'll but their house and I'll live there.
Speaker 3: Oh, which is a different, oh, different kind of scam.
Speaker 3: I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It has to work because I'm sure there's some people
Speaker 1: on tender who are just like I just really need
Speaker 1: the company. Was you cute?
Speaker 3: I mean, if that was her, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know about that in the beginning.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it was her. I don't know,
Speaker 3: like she was cute, but I don't know if Like
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that that was not her. I didn't do
Speaker 3: the Google image.
Speaker 1: Image search like FTC told you got to do that.
Speaker 3: I know now I wish I knew then.
Speaker 1: Well, James, that's so that's that's our hot and fraud
Speaker 1: right now. Guys, if you're on dating apps, any dating apps,
Speaker 1: it put Christian Mingle on here as a warning, like
Speaker 1: all the dating apps, oh man, just beware, Like if
Speaker 1: people are trying to get money from you and you've
Speaker 1: never met them, yeah, not a good look. Also, if
Speaker 1: anything is happening with anybody's aunt, never believe that.
Speaker 3: Don't believe them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody's aunt has ever had anything bad happen to them.
Speaker 3: And unless your aunt raised you, then just not good enough.
Speaker 3: I'm not good enough.
Speaker 1: Too far away from me from the tree, says James
Speaker 1: b Run. Alright, guys, we're gonna get into the biggest segment,
Speaker 1: the craziest segment of the show, historic hoodwinks. All Right,
Speaker 1: So I kind of picked this one with you and
Speaker 1: mind because James runs a very dope podcast and also
Speaker 1: it's a live show called I'm Too Effing High, which
Speaker 1: decent these sigmatize weed. And it also is a very
Speaker 1: fun show where comedians get high and do comedic challenges.
Speaker 1: I've done it. It's super fun. It's also very fun
Speaker 1: to listen to wild high.
Speaker 3: That's great. Got to have you for a live.
Speaker 1: Show, yes, oh my gosh, even though when I'm at
Speaker 1: a high live show, it's just me like holding onto
Speaker 1: the chair for a dear life.
Speaker 3: You're so funny, You're so fun you kill it every time.
Speaker 1: Just putting the mic in my bosom and are you
Speaker 1: talking me? I need to talk now, all right, guys.
Speaker 1: But so there's a new scam out right now, which
Speaker 1: is Instagram weed fraud. So people are doing fraudulent Instagram
Speaker 1: drug deals. Okay, So basically how this works is the
Speaker 1: one that we're going to talk about in like more detail.
Speaker 1: Is this guy named Niagio Blum. He's a writer and
Speaker 1: a comedian and a resident connoisseur on the Netflix show
Speaker 1: Cooking on High. He's been a recent victim of a
Speaker 1: fraudulent Instagram drug deal scam. So basically, a friend sent
Speaker 1: this guy a screenshot of an Instagram program. So basically,
Speaker 1: this whole this could happen to you, James. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: this guy's whole business is kind of like surrounded around
Speaker 1: weed or being a connoisseur, being like, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the first movers in entertainment in weed, and someone
Speaker 1: made a fake Instagram profile of him and some one
Speaker 1: of his friends screenshot it, but it had been up
Speaker 1: for a minute because the account had twelve images on
Speaker 1: it that were stolen from Baum's real account, and the
Speaker 1: bio offered pot for sale with shipping available to any location.
Speaker 3: Wait can you say that again?
Speaker 1: Pot for sale was shipping available to any locations. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you go on his Instagram, you see photos
Speaker 1: of the guy and it says we sell weed. We'll
Speaker 1: send it anywhere in the country. Yeah, it says any location.
Speaker 1: So I guess that means, like Papa New Guinea means
Speaker 1: you can get your weed wherever yeah, so BAM obviously
Speaker 1: had a friend who noticed this, and so he notifies
Speaker 1: Instagram and he posts screenshot on his own profile and
Speaker 1: says like, please don't follow this guy and please report
Speaker 1: this guy, et cetera, et cetera. But this was happening
Speaker 1: for at least six months because the impostor had multiple
Speaker 1: direct messages from people who had wired him money for
Speaker 1: weed that they'd never received no way, so he had
Speaker 1: been running this, which is weird because it's like, if
Speaker 1: you know this guy's on TV, why do you think
Speaker 1: that he had Okay, he had twenty six hundred followers, though,
Speaker 1: why do you think that this guy wouldn't have more
Speaker 1: followers than that?
Speaker 3: Way more followers and then all, so yeah, like why
Speaker 3: would he Well, I guess I could see him getting
Speaker 3: in the business of, I guess distributing, but that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's so there's one god.
Speaker 3: I could see myself falling for this. This is terrifying.
Speaker 1: This is terrifying.
Speaker 3: The show is terrified.
Speaker 1: So there was one scam victor in particular who contacted
Speaker 1: this guy after sending an imposter over three thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for two pounds of weed that never arrived. And this
Speaker 1: guy was getting an average of three to five messages
Speaker 1: a week, so he was doing this.
Speaker 3: Okay, So first of all, two grand for two pounds
Speaker 3: of weed? Is that what you said?
Speaker 1: Three grand?
Speaker 3: Three grand for two pounds of weed is like an
Speaker 3: amazing deal that already is like yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: most of the time a pound of weed is like
Speaker 3: three to four grand.
Speaker 1: You hear that guy's yeah, just so you know how
Speaker 1: much a pound of weed gots?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I guess people were probably that's why they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll pay for this deal.
Speaker 3: Of course, to be true, if somebody was like two
Speaker 3: pounds a week for three grand, yeah, that is an
Speaker 3: amazing deal. Yeah, especially if it's good shit. Right.
Speaker 1: That's like how anytime you click on a news article,
Speaker 1: because the online news is fucking struggling, there's always like
Speaker 1: ads for shit on the side. It's like Louis wa
Speaker 1: Tom back thirty dollars. That's what almost gets me. I'm
Speaker 1: like third at all that Louis is not real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so he pays this much for it and
Speaker 1: never gets any money. Also, I think wire transfers are
Speaker 1: just a weird method for paying for shit. I've never
Speaker 1: had to pay for anything with a wire transfer. I've
Speaker 1: only received the wire transfer once in my life and
Speaker 1: it was from my parents when I was in London.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't think they're real, Like I.
Speaker 3: Would do you do it at a bank?
Speaker 1: I've never done doing it like Western Union, which is
Speaker 1: like Shanius money place.
Speaker 3: Ever, it almost see like, is this is me being
Speaker 3: an ignorantcause I don't know. Is Western Union also a
Speaker 3: payday loan type of Yeah? It is.
Speaker 1: It's just like where you can go do Isn't it?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong talk about it? I feel like it's
Speaker 1: just a shady scam organization. The cops should just loiter
Speaker 1: around Western Union and just randomly like pick people up.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: But so Instagram got contacted about this story, and an
Speaker 1: Instagram spokesperson noted, and an Instagram spokesperson noted claiming to
Speaker 1: be another person violates the platform of community guidelines, and
Speaker 1: Instagram says we care deeply about the quality content on
Speaker 1: Instagram and we take spam and inauthentic and other abusive
Speaker 1: behavior very seriously. Being verified is a great new way
Speaker 1: to know if the person is legitimately that person but
Speaker 1: not everybody can be verified, which is true, right, Like
Speaker 1: you have to have like full a certain amount of
Speaker 1: qualifications to be verified. And this guy was on TV
Speaker 1: and I have fifty seven thousand followers and wasn't verified,
Speaker 1: So people were taking advantage of that.
Speaker 3: Crazy Why wasn't he verified fifty seven thousand followers?
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't have anything to do with how many
Speaker 1: followers you have. You have to like I guess, apply
Speaker 1: or have a PR agency apply for you, or have
Speaker 1: enough credits and things online that Instagram starts to get
Speaker 1: curious about if you are really the person.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, got.
Speaker 1: So there's one person on Reddit because there's a whole
Speaker 1: subreddit about this guy who tells his story of buying
Speaker 1: weed through Instagram. So some of you out there might
Speaker 1: be familiar with popular social networking app called Instagram. In
Speaker 1: the past few months, there have been accounts popping up
Speaker 1: on Instagram that claim that they will ship weed to
Speaker 1: you out of places like Washington, California, etc. These profiles
Speaker 1: may look very convincing with pictures of large amounts of
Speaker 1: weed uploaded or orders getting shipped out. How it works
Speaker 1: is this person will leave their phone number or kick
Speaker 1: Messenger id if you got to get on kick for anything,
Speaker 1: you already need to know it's not on the up
Speaker 1: and up on the profile, and you can contact them
Speaker 1: and ask them to place an order. Prices are usually
Speaker 1: advertised as fairly low and reasonable. Like you said, that
Speaker 1: was really cheap for those two pounds of weed. Now,
Speaker 1: there may be some profiles out there that are actually
Speaker 1: genuine and will ship you the product. I've had weed
Speaker 1: shipped to me before, no issue, so I know it's
Speaker 1: done every day. Most are just playing scammers looking to
Speaker 1: get your money and leave you with nothing. Here's how
Speaker 1: my experience went. I kicked a dealer asking for one
Speaker 1: of his best indicus. He said the price was one
Speaker 1: eighty ounce and that I only owed him half up
Speaker 1: front to ship it. He claimed that after the payment
Speaker 1: was shipped, I would get a tracking number and his
Speaker 1: phone number to keep contact and track my package. The
Speaker 1: next morning, I Western unioned him Western Union ninety dollars
Speaker 1: and two hours later saw that Western Union Tracking had
Speaker 1: picked up the payment. I texted him asking him for
Speaker 1: a tracking number. No response. I waited two hours, texted again. Nothing.
Speaker 1: After that, I started calling him. Then an hour later
Speaker 1: I realized he had blocked me from his Instagram page,
Speaker 1: blocked me on kick and somehow blocked my number from
Speaker 1: contacting his phone. That's like the easiest one to do. Now,
Speaker 1: I know what you're all thinking, Wow, you're such an
Speaker 1: idiot to give this guy your money and expect him
Speaker 1: to sendy weed. Yes, that was a naive mistake on
Speaker 1: my part. But I've had success and transactions in the past.
Speaker 1: But guys, please don't do this. You will get screwed
Speaker 1: over and you will feel like an idiot.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, absolutely, And that's a good deal too,
Speaker 3: one for an ounce. That's yeah, that's a really good
Speaker 3: isn't that?
Speaker 1: Like? I feel like that small potatoes though, to be like, here,
Speaker 1: send me half of this amount. So you're just getting
Speaker 1: ninety dollars from everybody you scam, Is that enough? I
Speaker 1: guess it depends on how many people you scam in
Speaker 1: a day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you can if you scam ten.
Speaker 1: People, ten people a week, that's not dollars a week.
Speaker 3: That's nine hundred bucks a week. Yeah, that's yeah. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's pretty good. And I wonder too, if the strategy is, like,
Speaker 3: if I scam ninety bucks out of people, they're gonna
Speaker 3: be looking for me with less urgency, right than if
Speaker 3: I scam like three thousand, three thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, and then that
Speaker 1: just becomes your job, I'm sure. Just every day, I
Speaker 1: gotta set up a new Instagram profile, got to create
Speaker 1: more hotmail email addresses.
Speaker 3: You're a blue collar scammerl collar.
Speaker 1: I'm a middle class scammer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a middle class scammer. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They probably survived the longest because I feel like when
Speaker 1: you start getting into bigger deals, that's when people started
Speaker 1: getting their eyes on you. And when you scam rich people,
Speaker 1: they be mad.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, one's.
Speaker 1: More mad about getting scammed than someone who has a
Speaker 1: lot of money for some reason, which makes zero sense
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have so many more resources to lose.
Speaker 1: And they're still more mad, and they also have more time.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if I'm a rich person, I have
Speaker 1: more time to hire someone to look for you and
Speaker 1: get angry with you.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm into it.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Isn't that insane?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't know, I think buying anything online,
Speaker 1: although I do have a friend who buys like acid
Speaker 1: on the dark web and they've never had a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've bought drugs on the dark web as well.
Speaker 1: How do you get to the dark web is like
Speaker 1: ww dot dark Web. I've never known how you actually
Speaker 1: get to the dark Web.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to go, I should say, I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is the dark web or not? Where
Speaker 3: I go? Is this a legal website where I can
Speaker 3: purchase different types of drugs? And I use bitcoin to
Speaker 3: get it? And so I go to a bitcoin ATM
Speaker 3: machine which is down the street from me, and I
Speaker 3: get some bitcoin and then I buy, you know, the drugs.
Speaker 3: And the one time I thought I was getting scammed,
Speaker 3: and I kept emailing them and being like, hey, where
Speaker 3: where is the product? Where's my stuff? There's where's the product? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I get caught up. Where's the product? Where the things
Speaker 1: that I ordered?
Speaker 3: I had been watching the movie Blow all weekend and
Speaker 3: Johnny Depp and no I and and they never got
Speaker 3: back to me, and I was like, fuck, I got scammed.
Speaker 3: And then one day in the mail they were there
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, Okay, I guess they just
Speaker 3: have terrible customer service. But it worked.
Speaker 1: Look, we don't pride ourselves in customer service. Okay, you'll
Speaker 1: get your things. When you get your things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just relaxed, we're not going to respond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very like, that's interesting to me because like
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in Brooklyn and is we
Speaker 1: legal in New York yet?
Speaker 3: No? Right?
Speaker 1: No, So when I was in Brooklyn years ago, it
Speaker 1: was probab extra even more illegal. But I had a
Speaker 1: weed delivery, like a courier service that would like come
Speaker 1: to my house and it was always like some guys
Speaker 1: or a girl on.
Speaker 3: A bike and a bike.
Speaker 1: I've heard of this, yeah, And like one time it
Speaker 1: was like during Pride, I think, and it was like
Speaker 1: so busy and so I like ordered and they couldn't
Speaker 1: get to me and I was like, what is this.
Speaker 1: I've been ordering from you guys for years. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, man, We're so sorry. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you thirty percent off of your next birthday.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is illegal drug company that
Speaker 1: is running themselves like.
Speaker 3: A good customer service.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually customer service. I didn't have to email the
Speaker 1: dark Web a bunch of times like hey it's me again.
Speaker 1: You know who?
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, what's.
Speaker 1: Your alias on there? Because I know you don't go
Speaker 1: by James.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think you have to have.
Speaker 1: An alias or is it just like you you just
Speaker 1: don't communicate.
Speaker 3: With any Everything is through like it's all through bitcoin,
Speaker 3: like it's you don't use a name, like it's just
Speaker 3: my address. There's no like name.
Speaker 1: Is pitcoin even like becoming like a successful formal currency.
Speaker 1: Is it just a good currency to do like sketchy
Speaker 1: stuff with.
Speaker 3: I think it's that. I think it's like people are
Speaker 3: hoping that it becomes a thing, but I just don't
Speaker 3: think it will. I think it's like right now, I
Speaker 3: think it's just a way to get shit anonymously because
Speaker 3: it's untraceable. That's the that's the thing about it is
Speaker 3: like you can't trace it. So I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know some people got rich real fast from it
Speaker 3: when it when it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they bought it and then it like exploded
Speaker 1: and now it's like normal again.
Speaker 3: But that feels like a scam maybe, oh hell yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Online e currency is definitely a scam, Like where did
Speaker 1: it come from?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And we just all gave you money for it and
Speaker 1: then you told us how much it was worth.
Speaker 3: Yeah. What even even capitalism in general feels like it's
Speaker 3: just constantly walking the line of scam. Rightly, everybody's just
Speaker 3: toning that line of like how close can I get
Speaker 3: to fucking people over?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why we had to have like antitrust
Speaker 1: laws and things like that, because otherwise, like people, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're still Amazon's gonna own all of us pretty soon.
Speaker 1: And it's fine. I willingly give Facebook all of my
Speaker 1: information now, I'm like, you have it anyway, here were
Speaker 1: my retina. Hold on, let me open.
Speaker 3: My eye up, ship, let me open my eye.
Speaker 1: You need me take my contact out? Fuck all right,
Speaker 1: damn it, Mark Zuckerberg, I just want to send I
Speaker 1: just want to post about my comedy show tonight.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'll give them whatever they want. Bootyholet now,
Speaker 1: I have no use for it.
Speaker 3: Let me open my booty hole up.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I need these likes. This week, our scameray
Speaker 1: goes out to a mystery person. We actually do not
Speaker 1: know who this person is, but there is a weed
Speaker 1: grower at the Capitol Building of Vermont who has planted
Speaker 1: thirty four cannabis plants in counting that have been found
Speaker 1: growing in the flower beds of the Vermont Capitol.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we actually, oh I had so much media.
Speaker 1: We have another video. We'll describe it to you guys.
Speaker 1: So this is a weed plant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like it really is hidden in a garden.
Speaker 1: And it looks like they're growing very well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Weed is hard to grow.
Speaker 1: Right, doesn't it need like a lot of water, a.
Speaker 3: Ton of sunlight, a ton of care. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And these are like on the main street in front
Speaker 1: of the capitol, so the plants are too immature to
Speaker 1: test them to see if they're like THHD plans, right.
Speaker 1: And they also have confirmed that the plants are not
Speaker 1: in the state's horticultural plant.
Speaker 3: But I don't think an they asked just some random
Speaker 3: police officer.
Speaker 1: Who had no information. Yeah, he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think they meant to plant these. So there's all these
Speaker 1: weed plants.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I love that. That's like that that's a great
Speaker 3: scam that hurts nobody, right, Like it's like, let's go
Speaker 3: plant and you know, if you're for legalization, I guess
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like a message. But I like that.
Speaker 1: That's right, oh right, because it's it's at the Capitol building.
Speaker 1: So this is like being like, hey, guys, you're already
Speaker 1: there's so much weed out here, just let us grow it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also like it's kind of like it won't bother you.
Speaker 1: Look at how much weed we have growing right next
Speaker 1: to you, and it's never bothered and you.
Speaker 3: Have no idea it's even there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe it is like an
Speaker 1: artistic statement too. But how is the plant growing so well?
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's a really good question.
Speaker 1: Because they need a lot of water, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: They need a ton they like well, I guess it
Speaker 3: depends on if they're trying to grow it to some
Speaker 3: sort of like to actually have the flower be good.
Speaker 3: That's when you have to put in a lot of work.
Speaker 3: But it is a weed, so it'll just grow. But
Speaker 3: if you want like good bud with like you know,
Speaker 3: good THC and high quality, you got to put in
Speaker 3: so much work.
Speaker 1: Okay, So maybe it's someone who's like planted it and
Speaker 1: then they're like, we'll just use the capital's water. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they water those. Those plants looked so healthy, it
Speaker 1: looked great, it looked refreshed. So I'm sure that they're
Speaker 1: watering them so so much.
Speaker 3: It's they're they're like the the green I guess the
Speaker 3: plant version of Banksy.
Speaker 1: It feels like, wait, explain that to me.
Speaker 3: So Banksy is, uh, you know, the anonymous person that
Speaker 3: that goes around graffeiting all these different sort of like
Speaker 3: social justice which.
Speaker 1: Ones like that, that obey guy. No I should know
Speaker 1: who banks is? Such uncultured swine right now?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he has yeah, he
Speaker 3: has very very He's British, but he's anonymous. Nobody knows
Speaker 3: who he is.
Speaker 1: So no one's caught Banksy painting ship. I find that
Speaker 1: hard to believe.
Speaker 3: Some people think that Banksy is more than one more
Speaker 3: than one people. More than one person is a group.
Speaker 1: It's an artist band.
Speaker 3: But he also famously, oh he had a great scam
Speaker 3: what where he tried to uh somebody tried to sell
Speaker 3: a Banksy original at a at an auction and when
Speaker 3: it sold and they tried to bring it off the wall,
Speaker 3: it ripped in shreds and like that was the whole
Speaker 3: purpose of it. But the funny thing is it actually
Speaker 3: upped the value of it. Yeah, it was like an
Speaker 3: original Banksy.
Speaker 1: So it was really an original.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh here we go. Yeah, watch this it's it's
Speaker 3: pretty interesting and it got.
Speaker 5: Art connoisseurs could only watch in horror as an expensive
Speaker 5: piece was shredded before their eyes. No sooner did the
Speaker 5: gavel come down to mark the sale of Banksy's Girl
Speaker 5: with Balloon for our record one point four million dollars,
Speaker 5: did the picture start to slip out of its frame
Speaker 5: into shreds below. The anonymous artist claims to be behind
Speaker 5: the stunt. On Instagram, he posted a photo of his
Speaker 5: prank with the caption.
Speaker 1: Going, Going Gone.
Speaker 5: In a later post, he explained how.
Speaker 1: He did it. A few years ago. I secretly built
Speaker 1: a shredder into a painting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bruh, yeah pretty Uh that.
Speaker 1: Is rude as fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I pay a million dollars or something, Banksy, you
Speaker 1: can you ask. That's when the scene became a brawl.
Speaker 1: Like this story would have went completely differently, like no,
Speaker 1: you need to go go paint it again.
Speaker 3: I would love it if it was Lacy that unveiled
Speaker 3: Banksy because of this, like nobody knows who Banksy is.
Speaker 3: Lacey gets sucked over, gets you can't scam the scam goddess. No,
Speaker 3: she will unveil you.
Speaker 1: I would ruin his whole mistake. I would spend the
Speaker 1: rest of my days trying to figure out who the
Speaker 1: fuck he was, where he lived, so I could air
Speaker 1: his ass out on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Line Yep, that's really funny, Like he's.
Speaker 1: Going live with Banksy right now, that's correct. Crazy, And
Speaker 1: of course some art buyer was like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: even better because now chrosthetical.
Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, I'm sure it raised the value.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also if you're an art collector, that's already
Speaker 1: a flex of like I'm about to spend a ridiculous
Speaker 1: amount of money on Yes, yes, art has value. I
Speaker 1: make art. It has so much value. I want to
Speaker 1: be paid a million dollars to come perform somewhere please.
Speaker 1: But we all know it's a flex to be like
Speaker 1: I'm spending a million dollars on a piece of paper.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, such a flex.
Speaker 1: So I think it is probably even more of a
Speaker 1: flex if you're non phased by ripping apart.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you whoever bought that is like, that's such
Speaker 3: a conversation piece. Everybody that comes over there like, oh
Speaker 3: this is the Banksy I purchased, he shredded it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see the millions of views on YouTube?
Speaker 1: Absolutely the one very angry black woman who beat him down.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 1: Also, did souther of Bees know this was going to happen?
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Were they in on the scam?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. If I remember crooking, I don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 1: I would have loved if souther Be's was in on
Speaker 1: the scam, because these feels like a scam organization, Like
Speaker 1: they have to be involved in like so much crime,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but like the sexiest kind of like white
Speaker 1: collar crime that you want to make movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, money laundering and like all that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's money dry cleaning, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a different level.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not actually touching the money with all hands.
Speaker 3: No, we don't touch money.
Speaker 1: I haven't touched money in fifteen years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Like money to them is just electronic, right,
Speaker 3: It's just that they have enough of it. It just exists, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But art is also a beautiful game
Speaker 1: of fraud. So I'll take it. I'll take it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy is planning these weed plans. Shout out to
Speaker 1: this mysterious weed grower because I will probably never know
Speaker 1: who you are. I mean, I would first, probably look
Speaker 1: at the gardeners. But again, like if I was someone
Speaker 1: who was gardening the Vermont White, I wouldn't waste my seed.
Speaker 3: Weed on that. Yeah. Yeah, it's probably a protester or
Speaker 3: somebody that's trying to send a message. I feel like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that, like being artistic.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wish that I had a garden that
Speaker 3: they could toss some weed seeds, and I'd be I'd
Speaker 3: be very appreciative.
Speaker 1: But I don't know where do you get weed seeds.
Speaker 3: You can get them online. You can get them online.
Speaker 3: You can you know, some dispensary cell seeds, some dispensary
Speaker 3: cell clones as well, which is like sort of a
Speaker 3: little baby plant that they've cloned off of another plant.
Speaker 3: So you're already starting with something and you sort of
Speaker 3: like transferred over. Yeah. I've tried to grow up a
Speaker 3: clone one time. Really it didn't go well.
Speaker 1: It didn't go well. I don't think I could do
Speaker 1: it either. Like I killed a succubis so and that's
Speaker 1: really hard to do.
Speaker 3: You killed a succubus orculate occubus. A succubust is like
Speaker 3: an old timey word for like a woman who is
Speaker 3: promiscuous and like, uh uh seduces men is like a
Speaker 3: sec Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I killed the suck you limb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well James, this is so amazing to
Speaker 1: have you.
Speaker 3: Man, this show is great. I love thank you for
Speaker 3: having me. This is I feel like, honestly, just being
Speaker 3: on this show and hearing about all of these things,
Speaker 3: I'm like, holy shit, scams are fucking everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Scamming is a job. It's a profession. It's one
Speaker 1: of the oldest professions, and it needs more respect.
Speaker 3: It needs Yeah, it really does. Because now I'm thinking
Speaker 3: of like, oh wait, is government a scam?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, government is one of the biggest scams. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about taxes. They literally are like, hey, we know
Speaker 1: you made money, give us some and you better give
Speaker 1: us the right amount otherwise we're gonna put you in jail.
Speaker 1: But also, we're not going to tell you how.
Speaker 3: Much you need to give us, and we're not going
Speaker 3: to tell you what we're going to use it on.
Speaker 3: We'll pretend like we're going to use it on this.
Speaker 1: We're actually never going to tell you exactly where your
Speaker 1: tax dollars are going yeah, like so no worry, but
Speaker 1: hand them over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because and then they start taking a lot
Speaker 1: of money from you, Like but then I think that
Speaker 1: they should take more money from the people who have
Speaker 1: an insane amount of money. We all think this, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I will say that, Like, as a black person,
Speaker 1: I was always wondering, like, well, if the police aren't
Speaker 1: going to keep killing us, could we stop our money stopped?
Speaker 3: Going?
Speaker 1: Like can I get a refund for the police specifically,
Speaker 1: It's like, here's your money from just the police taxes,
Speaker 1: because we know that they are harming you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's completely fair.
Speaker 1: They're protecting and serving everyone else but you, So here's
Speaker 1: your money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I also feel like, you know, we sell,
Speaker 3: we spend all this tax money for them to create
Speaker 3: like all of these big weapons of war to sell
Speaker 3: to other countries, and we don't get any of that
Speaker 3: money back. You just sold all these airplanes and tanks
Speaker 3: and shit. I don't get any of that.
Speaker 1: Where is my cut of the ar fifteen.
Speaker 3: Cents I invested to have those war machines made? Where's
Speaker 3: my investment?
Speaker 1: Any return on that.
Speaker 3: You sold that shit to? You know, Saudi Arabia and
Speaker 3: I don't get any of it.
Speaker 1: I don't get anything on getting oil. I get a
Speaker 1: discount on gas. Gas is very expensive, very expensive. I
Speaker 1: guess sometimes they do discount as on gas, like the
Speaker 1: price went down.
Speaker 3: Here you go, yeah, opec I'll throw us a little yeah,
Speaker 3: a little something and keeps us quiet for a month.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's how our gas rises to get lower,
Speaker 1: its open, keep us keeping us quiet. Oh my goodness. Well, James,
Speaker 1: where can people find you?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, people can find me. So please check out
Speaker 3: imto fing High. It's uh, you know, on Instagram and
Speaker 3: and Twitter at imtofing High. We do a live show
Speaker 3: at the Upright Citisens Brigade every month. And you know
Speaker 3: we're a podcast as well. And check out Florida Girls
Speaker 3: on pop TV and you can. I'm on all platforms
Speaker 3: Jmas eleven eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and guys, as always, you can find us. That's
Speaker 1: scam got uspot at gmail dot com. Tell us about
Speaker 1: how you've been scammed or if you tried to run
Speaker 1: a scam like James. And also guys, I'm on every
Speaker 1: platform A DIVA A C, D I V A L
Speaker 1: A C I and yes, please watch Florida Girls on
Speaker 1: Pop TV. James was on Florida Girls. I'm on Florida Girls.
Speaker 1: Very fun show. Yes, all right, guys, we'll see you
Speaker 1: next week.