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Speaker 1: This is a game.

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Speaker 2: Let me pick out, putt, let me putch out.

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Speaker 1: You want NFL experience, and this is the show for you.

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Speaker 3: Third Law with LaVar Ary Tent as a defensive guy, TJ.

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Speaker 1: Houshman Zana.

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Speaker 3: I'm just bringing the viewers into how grown men in

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Speaker 3: the locker room, Like I don't play with some dude

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Speaker 3: that you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it

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Speaker 3: was they was putting hands on you and Blaxico Burrows, they.

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Speaker 4: Are the same person, the same exact quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's a show with three and the best to ever

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Speaker 1: do it on and off the field, and nine live

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Here's pro bowlers LeVar

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Speaker 1: Ary Tent, TJ. Hushman Zana, and Silver Bowl champion Blaxico Burress.

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Speaker 5: All right, all right, all right, welcome into the show.

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Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to everybody out there. This is up on

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Speaker 5: Game and this is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: That's right. You got t J.

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Speaker 5: Hushmans side of you got Plexi Kobert, you got myself,

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Speaker 5: Leavar Arrington. We got a lot to get to if

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Speaker 5: you guys are ready for a good show. Uh all right,

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Speaker 5: talk about it. Well we'll we'll get to Uh, what's

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Speaker 5: going on in Tampa Bay. Some of some cool things

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, let's start here. How y'all doing, man, How y'all feeling?

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Speaker 3: You already know how it is out here? Clear skies, freeze,

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Speaker 5: Baby, Yeah, yeah, I see ye, I see everybody. I

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Speaker 5: want to use TJ these days too. You see that Plexico,

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Speaker 5: Nightcap like you know TJ. TJ sizzling up out here, man,

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Speaker 5: he bubbling up, brouh.

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Speaker 6: Wrong with it, Brian got wrong.

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Speaker 3: With it, playing small people. That that that's what y'all know. Me,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's up Candy involved. Hey, what you got to

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Speaker 2: Well, what's a good deal with you? You know what?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: The weather finally cool down. It's a little bit. Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know this weekend, man, it was scorching hot. You know,

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Speaker 4: Everything is beautiful, man, Just relaxing on the uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: a nice Saturday, and we're gonna give these people. Wanna

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Speaker 4: give the listeners what they wanted, what they want to hear.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's start here. Then that's that's a great segue.

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Speaker 5: Let's start here. Ravens kicking great former Ravens now former

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Speaker 6: Now he's he's been released.

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Speaker 5: By uh the Ravens obviously multiple allegations of sexual inappropriate

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Speaker 6: Got suspended the suspension.

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Speaker 5: Just was released and he's suspended for ten weeks under

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Speaker 5: So here's my question to you guys, Justin Tucker, because

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Speaker 5: maybe today just because I've had some time to sit

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Speaker 5: though he's thirty five years old? So he's not crazy old,

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Speaker 5: He's not that old. He came into the league, he

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Speaker 5: what year he came into the league. He was drafted

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been around.

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Speaker 5: Do you guys think that he will get reinstated and

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Speaker 5: that's going on, whether people want to admit it or not. Culture,

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Speaker 5: it clashes with football culture, the Diddy stuff going on,

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Speaker 5: the stuff that happened with Deshaun Watson. I take all

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Speaker 5: playing out any differently? Does he get picked up after

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Speaker 5: his ten game suspension and gets reinstated. I believe it's over.

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Speaker 5: It's a rap.

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Speaker 3: He had a hell of a career, but the league

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: We know that first it was Deshaun Watson. They did

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Speaker 3: Or we may have not seen Deshaun Watson play again.

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Speaker 3: We will never know. But with Justin Tucker in this

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Speaker 3: a ten game suspension is obviously not the year suspension

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Speaker 3: And because he is thirty five, because he is a Kickerer,

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Speaker 3: I believe it's over.

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Speaker 3: I don't see another team going out of their way

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it's worth it. Justin Tucker had a

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Speaker 4: Wishing the best, you know what, I believe it's the

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Speaker 4: exact opposite. I really do. If we go back and

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Speaker 4: And now we're talking about, you know, his age as

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Speaker 4: I believe he kicked until he was forty years old,

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Speaker 4: seventeen seasons with five teams. So I don't think age

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Speaker 4: I really honestly believe that somebody's going to sign him

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he hasn't been proven guilty.

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Speaker 4: And so he agreed, So he agreed to basically say

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Speaker 5: You know, during during the week when this when this

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Speaker 5: I felt like it's not worth the headache to do it.

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Speaker 5: But having a couple of days to think about it,

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Speaker 5: I kind of it's like kind of a mix where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know how, you know how he kicked

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Speaker 5: He didn't kick well, and a lot of people felt

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Speaker 5: he may get another opportunity based off of what you said, Plex,

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Speaker 5: meaning the playoffs may be on the line. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's like, okay, we bring them in. I bet you

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Speaker 5: it's not even going to be a leash. You can't

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Speaker 5: it's a caller, right. You bring justin Tucker in, you're

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Speaker 5: If he comes in and he can kick, now it

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Speaker 5: of there, no big thing.

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Speaker 2: We know how this business works.

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Speaker 4: We were and they are in a performance driven business.

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Speaker 4: He gets to a team, he goes out, makes a

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Speaker 4: few kicks, maybe maybe makes a game winning kick for

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Speaker 4: the team to win the game or tie break or

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Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. Nobody's talking about this, and

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Speaker 4: we know how it goes. You go out, you play well,

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Speaker 4: you do your job, you do what you're supposed to do,

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be one of those things that

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Speaker 4: will be swept under the rug. They may mention it

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Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be, but we won't be

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just really believe man because he's a kicker, Like.

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Speaker 6: He's just too important enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's the other way around. He's a kicker.

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Speaker 6: He's a really good kicker.

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Speaker 3: There was there's a million and one kicks out there, exactly,

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Speaker 3: there's so many of them, and.

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Speaker 2: Of them ain't too many.

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Speaker 4: Justin Tuckers, I believe it's the exact.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of them. It's a lot of them

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Speaker 3: away he kicked last year. All I know is what

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Speaker 3: have you done for me lately? And last year he

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Speaker 3: wasn't very good?

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Speaker 2: What very good?

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Speaker 3: And you can say it was he had this over

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Speaker 3: his head, you know, the cloud. Well, don't put yourself

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Speaker 5: Hey, hey, don't nobody get no excuses for why they

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Speaker 4: And we're already talking about three super Bowls in his

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Speaker 4: get now you get a Hollywood Brown back. He's healthy,

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Speaker 4: Now you get a Travis Kelsey that it seems like

438
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Speaker 4: he is refocusing on football and coming into camp in

439
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 4: shape and ready to play football because now these guys are.

440
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Speaker 2: Determined to win another one.

441
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Speaker 4: So he has all the tools to keep being getting

442
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Speaker 4: better as a quarterback. But if I'm just looking at

443
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Speaker 4: the stats and what this young man has been able

444
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Speaker 4: to put forth before all of us watching him play,

445
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Speaker 4: I would say, when it's all said and done, he

446
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: is going to surpass Aaron Rodgers and basically every category

447
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: and he's going to be the greatest football quarterback to

448
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Speaker 4: play in this league.

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Speaker 3: Hey, why would big man say that? Because he's a quarterback?

450
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Speaker 3: What would make him say something like that?

451
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Speaker 2: He was asked a question. I don't know. Yeah, like

452
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: think about that though, like we all watching the.

453
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Speaker 6: Game, I don't even feel like that's close.

454
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Speaker 5: I don't even feel like that's a proper conversation at

455
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Speaker 5: this point.

456
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Speaker 3: It's close, but like it is, like one at the end,

457
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Speaker 3: one is still.

458
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Speaker 6: Patrick Holmes has done is win. That's all he's done.

459
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Speaker 6: Like he has done. He has literally done nothing else.

460
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Speaker 6: But when since he's been in the league.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't think the conversation is close with anyone,

462
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Speaker 5: to be honest, Like where where Patrick? Where Patrick Mahomes

463
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Speaker 5: is right now? And what if his level of trajectory

464
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Speaker 5: of what he's been accomplishing since he's been starting. Name

465
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Speaker 5: a quarterback that compares, Name one that compares to where

466
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Speaker 5: he's at right now, Name one that compares.

467
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Speaker 6: Tom Brady is not in.

468
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Speaker 2: The first eight years?

469
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Speaker 6: Like tripping that all?

470
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Speaker 2: Do you think you think he getting seven?

471
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Speaker 6: It's possible, It's possible.

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Speaker 3: It's man, forget that, look this man, this man continues

473
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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 6: You already won the lottery. I've seen your family and

475
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Speaker 6: I know.

476
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Speaker 2: I know, right life.

477
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Speaker 6: Look bro, look look well that's not that's not cap either.

478
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Speaker 6: You know, you know you're doing well. Uh.

479
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Speaker 5: But Patrick Mahomes is literally in the super Bowl like

480
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Speaker 5: every year. He's like he's there, every year, he's in

481
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Speaker 5: the he has been in the championship game like literally

482
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Speaker 5: every single year.

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Speaker 6: I just don't see the everything that you can compare

484
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Speaker 6: that to.

485
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Speaker 2: Regardless who you who, you have put on this man's team.

486
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Speaker 4: Offensively, he managed to win the AFC West title eight

487
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Speaker 4: years in a row.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's do this because y'all mentioned something that

489
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Speaker 5: was interesting. You said that, But Aaron Rodgers isn't in

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Speaker 5: his prime anymore. Thus that was the reason for the

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Speaker 5: second SoundBite of Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee show.

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Speaker 6: Is this a good decision? What's this a good move?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 6: To me, I feel like.

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Speaker 5: By the day it becomes a worst move by this

496
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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers team. Like if a dude is saying, I

497
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: just want to, you know, have good times and go

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Speaker 5: into my retirement with peace and a peace and this

499
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Speaker 5: that and the other and da da dad, Hey man,

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to go.

501
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Speaker 6: To battle with a warrior that's already.

502
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Speaker 5: Looking at where they're going to be after the war

503
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Speaker 5: is over.

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Speaker 6: I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I just that's not I would not be comfortable going

506
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Speaker 5: into battle with that guy.

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Speaker 6: Now some will you don't compare battles.

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Speaker 5: Okay, tell me like, because that's just how I interpreted it.

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Speaker 5: I feel as though he has nothing to lose. If

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Speaker 5: he goes into Pittsburgh and doesn't play well, that doesn't

511
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Speaker 5: bode well for the Pittsburgh Steelers, putting all of their

512
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Speaker 5: eggs in one basket, which is Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: I still believe, I know for a fact that when

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Speaker 4: Anon Roddy steps on the football field, he's going to

515
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Speaker 4: give you his best effort regardless. I don't think I

516
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Speaker 4: think you know misunderstanding of what he's saying is that

517
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Speaker 4: you know he's going to play hard. Obviously, he's going

518
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Speaker 4: to go out and give this team everything that he

519
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Speaker 4: has to help them try to win the division and

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Speaker 4: to get to a playoff and maybe win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Who knows, but I think he's still going to be

522
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Speaker 4: the same competitor under center when he gets on the

523
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Speaker 4: football field. I don't think that he's saying that, you

524
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Speaker 4: know what, I'm just going to go out there and

525
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: play and you know, lag along and not give effort

526
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Speaker 4: and not play my best.

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Speaker 5: That's not how I interpreted it. That's that's not what

528
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Speaker 5: I was thinking. I was not thinking He's going to

529
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Speaker 5: go out there and half asset. All I'm saying is

530
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Speaker 5: is the and the value of what we do and

531
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Speaker 5: a production business is knowing that if we don't produce,

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Speaker 5: it's a rap.

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Speaker 6: It's a rap.

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Speaker 2: You're going to play last year. We all know that

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Speaker 2: that And.

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Speaker 5: That's to me, he doesn't have the type of pressure

537
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Speaker 5: on him that other guys in the league are that

538
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Speaker 5: he's going to be playing against have on them.

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Speaker 6: That's not an advantage, not to me. That is not his.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, he's the quarterback of the Pittsburgh steel There's

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Speaker 4: always going to be pressure on anybody that position in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: To go out and play well, whether he has a

543
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Speaker 6: good year or not. He's Aaron Rodgers, period. What does

544
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Speaker 6: that mean, He's he's first back, What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: I don't Niversity Dallas Hall of Famer and he's one

546
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Speaker 5: of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play in the game.

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Speaker 4: That's what it So if he goes out and plays bad,

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Speaker 4: if he doesn't, it doesn't matter like oh he was

549
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: in his twentieth season anyway. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And what what what is Pittsburgh done? Like what makes

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Speaker 3: If Pittsburgh is successful, it will be because of Aaron Rodgers.

553
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Speaker 3: It won't be because of It's Pittsburgh because they haven't.

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Speaker 2: Of course they have. They haven't been able to win exactly.

555
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Speaker 3: So if they play bad then and if the team

556
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: is bad, how can you blame Aaron Rodgers?

557
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: If you're not going you have.

558
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 5: To blame Mike Tomlin and the.

559
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: Team. You can't blame Mike Tomlin.

560
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 5: To blame Mike Tomlin or GM because they messed up

561
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Speaker 5: with the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Situation last season.

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Speaker 2: Question what other situation they had?

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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson and Justin Fields were brought in both let

565
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Speaker 5: me and both of them are gone after one year?

566
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Speaker 2: The Master your question, laval TJ.

567
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Speaker 4: Do you think that the Pittsburgh Stills were bad football

568
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Speaker 4: team before Aaron Rodgers joined them?

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Speaker 2: No, they weren't bad. No, so.

570
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Speaker 4: Give them a better chance to win than Russell Wilson

571
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Speaker 4: and Justin Fields and Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: I believe so I.

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Speaker 5: Think I believe if you're talking about in a win

574
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Speaker 5: now scenario, Aaron Rodgers, it makes sense in a win

575
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 5: now desperation. But see, to me, I don't feel like

576
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Speaker 5: you should be in a win after what happened with

577
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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson and Justin Fields last season. It makes you wonder,

578
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 5: is is you're gonna question the decision making ability of

579
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Speaker 5: those who are bringing in personnel at the biggest position

580
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Speaker 5: in all of the games.

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Speaker 2: Y'all act like.

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Speaker 4: There are just elite quarterbacks walking around the supermarket of

583
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Speaker 4: sitting on a couch that you can sign to help

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Speaker 4: the leads.

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Speaker 2: Your franchise was on football games.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we.

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Speaker 4: Just already agreed that Aaron Rodgers give the Pittsburgh Stills

588
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Speaker 4: a better chance to win than Mason Rudolph, Justin Fields,

589
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: and Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: We can agree to that.

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Speaker 4: If you want to win football games right now, if

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Speaker 4: you're Mike Tomlin and the Rooney family, you sign Ann

593
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: Rodgers because we all agree that right now is versus

594
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Speaker 4: winning football games. He gives you the best chance to win.

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Speaker 4: Will deal with twenty twenty six when it gets here.

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Speaker 5: I think the best approach would have been to keep

597
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 5: justin fields and see if the kid that they just

598
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Speaker 5: drafted out of Ohio State can actually develop into a

599
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 5: quarterback that they could put in there.

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Speaker 6: That's to me, that's what I believe.

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Speaker 4: Will say that we don't that we don't know.

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Speaker 6: That's true.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen.

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Speaker 5: And if they win and they pull it off, they

605
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 5: look like they know what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: But if they don't, it's gonna be some time for change.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be it's probably going to be the

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Speaker 5: conversation that comes up time for change anyway, speaking of change,

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Speaker 5: and we're going to change topics.

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Speaker 6: But before we do that, let's.

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Speaker 5: Get the Isaac Lohan kron for trending what we got

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Speaker 5: going on in sports, My guy LaVar.

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Speaker 10: We got some change in the NBA. On this Saturday,

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Speaker 10: multiple outlets reporting the Chicago Bulls trading Lonzo Ball to

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Speaker 10: the Cleveland Cavaliers that exchange for Isaac o'corol. Meanwhile, last night,

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Speaker 10: multiple outlets reported in Minnesota Center nas Reads agreed to

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Speaker 10: a new five year, one hundred and twenty five million

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Speaker 10: dollar contract to stay with the Timberwolves, with the number

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Speaker 10: one overall taking the NHL Draft. On Friday night, the

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Speaker 10: New York Islanders selected seventeen year old defenseman Matthew Schafer

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Speaker 10: out of the Ontario Hockey League, while Stanley Cup champion

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Speaker 10: Florida Panthers forward and Con Smyth Trophy winner Sam Bennetts

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Speaker 10: agreed to an eight year, sixty four million dollar extension. Finally,

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Speaker 10: guys in track and field news, American sprinter Chris Robinson

625
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Speaker 10: was able to win the four hundred meter hurdles at

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Speaker 10: the Ostrava Golden Spike Track and Field meet in the

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Speaker 10: Czech Republic, despite experiencing a wardrobe malfunction of his shorts

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Speaker 10: that caused his well that caused his genitals to be

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Speaker 10: exposed for all to see during the last half of

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Speaker 10: the race. And we've got the audio of it, thankfully

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Speaker 10: this is radio.

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Speaker 2: And not TV.

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Speaker 10: Here's the call from commentators Hannah England and Tim Hutchings.

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Speaker 7: Listen, Chris Robinson absolutely flying down the backstraight. Just something

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Speaker 7: to adjustice shortz and that Chris Robinson strides into that

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Speaker 7: head and what concentration to keep himself going here Chris

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Speaker 7: Robinson stumbles there on the penultimate hurdle. He's got one

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Speaker 7: more to go. But he's going to be a win

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Speaker 7: for Chris Robinson at the United States forty eight.

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Speaker 6: One just gets the win. Boy, he just said in front,

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Speaker 6: dipping at the line and getting home in the league.

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Speaker 7: Do apologize for images here. I don't think replays are

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Speaker 7: being censored anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, there certainly has been time to send them.

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Speaker 6: They say, one by head, Allo.

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Speaker 4: One by head the flapper.

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Speaker 10: There's any event you don't want something like that to

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Speaker 10: happen in it's the hurdles.

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Speaker 1: So here's the mister Robinson back to you guys.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, all right, okay, well there you go. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 6: good luck. Congrat's to help on that big win.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: We're going to take a quick break.

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Speaker 5: On the other side of the break, we're going to

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Speaker 5: continue the conversations around you know football.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Todd Bowles, you know, you know Todd? Uh what

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Speaker 6: Jason like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Uh, the Buccaneers. We're gonna talk about them on

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Speaker 5: the other side of break. This is up on Game

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Speaker 6: welcome back into the show. It's up on Game. Make

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Speaker 5: We got hour two coming up in a matter of

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Speaker 5: moments and we will have cuffs the legend joining us

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Speaker 5: to talk you know, well his talk. Uh, So stay

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Speaker 5: stay down in tuned in for that, fellas. Before we

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Speaker 5: get to the end of this uh this hour, UH,

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Speaker 5: let's talk about what took place in Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, the Buccaneers have extended uh the contracts of GM,

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Speaker 5: Jason liked and and Todd Bowles.

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Speaker 6: Do you guys like the do you not like the move?

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Speaker 5: I feel like they've gotten a lot out of of

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Speaker 5: uh Mayfield, that Baker Mayfield. They've they've gotten a lot

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Speaker 5: out of this team. They've they've done to me quite

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Speaker 5: well post Tom Brady era and Bruce Arians era. How

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Speaker 5: do you feel about this move? Do you see them

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Speaker 5: being in contention? You know, this Tampa Bay Bucks team.

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Speaker 2: It's well deserved.

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Speaker 3: It's well deserved because when Bruce arians retired Tom Brady retired,

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Speaker 3: many and damn near everybody thought, oh ten day Bucks

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Speaker 3: are done. There is gonna be a long rebuild. They

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Speaker 3: signed Baker Mayfield, resurrected y and they've been winning. They've

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Speaker 3: been going to the playoffs, winning playoff games. Not consistent

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Speaker 3: super Bowl contenders or not super Bowl contenders at all,

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Speaker 3: but they're better than what anybody thought they would be

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Speaker 3: after Brady he left.

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Speaker 2: And that's a fact.

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Speaker 3: Sean baker Man is like, oh my god, the Bucks,

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Speaker 3: what are they doing signing him? And they've been a

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Speaker 3: good team to the top team, no, but a very

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Speaker 3: good team. And in that division, that division, I mean,

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Speaker 3: they always gonna have a chance. Unless Bryce Young and

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Speaker 3: the Panthers get better, he continues to develop, they always

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Speaker 3: will have a chance because Baker Mayfield is playing much

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Speaker 3: better Mike, they receiving corps is it's kind of crazy

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Speaker 3: with Mike Evans, Christ Chris got On coming off injury,

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Speaker 3: and you have a Mecca Buka who they drafted. You

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Speaker 3: have Jayleen McMillan, they have Tad Johnson. They got some

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Speaker 3: guys that can really play at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 3: Losing our offensive coordinator Liam Kalm is gonna be interesting

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Speaker 3: to see how they look offensively. That that will be

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Speaker 3: a question mark for me because it's just the unknown.

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Speaker 3: But well deserved by those guys. Well deserved. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: agree with TJ.

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Speaker 2: Men. I think you know, keeping uh uh lickt and

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Speaker 2: uh and Todd Bowles with.

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Speaker 4: The Buccaneers is the best move, right now for them

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Speaker 4: moving forward, they've been kind of you know, they've been

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Speaker 4: a little unstable over the last few years, especially after

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady left and Bruce arians was like TJ said,

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Speaker 4: but you know, through it all, they were able to

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Speaker 4: put full rookie you know, starters on this football team

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Speaker 4: through the draft with you know uh what Bucky Irvin Graham, Barton,

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Speaker 4: tyr Ree Smith and Jayalen McMillan. So, I mean they

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Speaker 4: have some pieces their young football team. We can all

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Speaker 4: agree that the NFC South is not necessarily the most competitive,

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Speaker 4: uh you know division all the football. It's up for

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Speaker 4: grabs every year. It seems it seems like the New

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Speaker 4: Orleans Saints and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are really the

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Speaker 4: only two teams in that the division that can compete

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Speaker 4: to win it. So we'll see what happens. But you know,

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Speaker 4: Todd Bowles is a great, uh defensive minded coach. They

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Speaker 4: just have to find a way to hope, try to

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Speaker 4: get Baker Mayfield to the next level if there is

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Speaker 4: a next level for him to compete on that elite

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Speaker 4: level to you know, to get this offense you know going.

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Speaker 4: I think they played really well last last year. Mike

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Speaker 4: Everson's getting older, the first Battle of Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 4: He's getting Chris watten My back off of back off

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Speaker 4: of injury, Bucky Irvin going into a second year. So

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Speaker 4: they do have a nice nucleus of young talent that

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Speaker 4: can help them win football games going fold.

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Speaker 2: But for Todd Bowles, uh, he just has to win.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously he was here with the Jets that

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Speaker 4: didn't fare very well. But far as from a defensive standpoint, man,

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Speaker 4: he's very intelligent, pressure style defense. Now, they just got

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Speaker 4: to find a way to win some football.

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Speaker 5: Games, didn't They almost beat Washington in the in the

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Speaker 5: playoffs last year, did not?

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Speaker 6: Didn't not almost happen like I think they had.

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Speaker 5: I think they had Washington beat in the game and

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Speaker 5: something something happened.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't recall it.

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Speaker 2: Washington. Washington went on the road and beat them in Tampa.

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Speaker 6: They beat them.

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Speaker 5: They did beat them in Tampa, and I believe the

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Speaker 5: score was twenty to twenty three. But it felt as

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Speaker 5: though maybe they had them wanting to had their number

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Speaker 5: that day. I don't know, but they seem to be

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Speaker 5: going in the right direction, and it seems as though

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Speaker 5: there's some continuity and it seems to make sense to

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Speaker 5: keep liked and bowls together, so congratulations to both of them.

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Speaker 5: This is hour one of Up on Game. Make sure

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Speaker 5: you stay locked in and dialed in. We got cuffs

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Speaker 5: the Legend coming up at the top of the hour.

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