Speaker 1: Come on, come on.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 1: This episode of the Heat Check. It is the Lake Show.
Speaker 3: Yes, we are we are digging in. We are digging
Speaker 3: into one of the craziest I was just mine of
Speaker 3: my own damn business on a Sunday night, sitting on
Speaker 3: the couch, and I experienced firsthand, not on Twitter, just
Speaker 3: right there on my cable TV box, the biggest kerfuffle
Speaker 3: sends Malice in the Palace and it, strangely again yes,
Speaker 3: includes the Detroit Pistons. We also get into some recent
Speaker 3: reporting that highlights two major reasons that the Lakers might
Speaker 3: not make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That will surprise you.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Brock, do me a favor and drop that
Speaker 3: motherfucker beat.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, did you see this?
Speaker 3: We had a baby Malice in the palace on a
Speaker 3: random Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Boy begun by.
Speaker 3: Somehow, some way Lebron James world class cheap shot.
Speaker 1: So I was sitting on the couch just chilling. I
Speaker 1: look up and I'm like, is that man bleeding from
Speaker 1: his face? What is going on? Hold on?
Speaker 3: Rewind rewind rewind what is happening the kerfuffle?
Speaker 1: I literally looked up eating dinner and the kerfuffle had
Speaker 1: already begun.
Speaker 3: So here is what my rewind, my DVR told me
Speaker 3: what happened. So Jeremy Grant, Detroit Piston's uh superstar, went
Speaker 3: to the line for a free tho in the third
Speaker 3: quarter of the game when the Pistons were inexplicably beating
Speaker 3: the Lakers, had no business beating them. I think they
Speaker 3: were up like twelve or fifteen at the time. Isaiah Stewart,
Speaker 3: big man for the Piston's young Gun, young Blood. He's
Speaker 3: almost seven feet tall, big bruiser, went to box out Lebron,
Speaker 3: and Lebron James.
Speaker 1: Boxed him out all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: Then you see Isaiah Stewart on the ground, slide shoot,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, you look at Isaiah Stewart.
Speaker 1: He's rushing Lebron. He's pissed.
Speaker 3: You're like, wait, did I miss something because he's bleeding
Speaker 3: out of his face right now, blood everywhere. It looked
Speaker 3: like he was in you know, like when you go
Speaker 3: to WWE and there's this like blood running down the
Speaker 3: Undertaker's face.
Speaker 1: It was like in this like cage match. That's what
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I literally look up from having a little
Speaker 3: bite of my dinner, take a drink of the water,
Speaker 3: and Isaiah Stewart cannot be held back, cannot be held
Speaker 3: And I just don't know if I've seen a player
Speaker 3: as angry as isay A Stewart maybe in my entire life,
Speaker 3: like I've never.
Speaker 1: The last time had to be in the Matt Molice
Speaker 1: in the Palace. So the question is, what did Lebron
Speaker 1: do to make Isaiah Stewart so mad? What would he what.
Speaker 3: Would possibly happen in order for a young guy so
Speaker 3: early on in the league to come after the number
Speaker 3: one player in our generation since Michael Jordan, like Kobe Jordan, Braun,
Speaker 3: Like that's the pantheon we're talking about. And Isaiah Stewart
Speaker 3: is like, I do not care. I'm gonna murder this guy.
Speaker 3: I Am going to murder him. The dude had to
Speaker 3: be restrained four separate times. Dwayne Casey cut his finger
Speaker 3: holding isaiahs toward Beck.
Speaker 1: His finger had to get wrapped up.
Speaker 3: I mean, when we talked about the league being soft,
Speaker 3: like it was not soft going on, like he was
Speaker 3: like incredible hulk, like getting broken from his chains, like
Speaker 3: he literally tried to find Lebron in the tunnel later on, so.
Speaker 1: So much to break down.
Speaker 3: So apparently, when Lebron James was boxing out, he literally
Speaker 3: took his elbow wrist hand down onto across Isaiah Stewart's
Speaker 3: eyebrow and lip.
Speaker 1: He's bleeding out of his mouth.
Speaker 3: There's like boom boom, bleeding out of his eye, blood
Speaker 3: rushing down his face. It was one of those things
Speaker 3: where it was like, that's look that bad, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you look back and you're like,
Speaker 3: holy fuck, that's a lot of blood.
Speaker 1: So much to break down. Where do I start? Well,
Speaker 1: first and.
Speaker 3: Foremost, I guess you have to talk about the Lakers
Speaker 3: announcers because it was sad.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, you see like Philadelphia seventy six
Speaker 3: ers announcers therebias, Boston Celtics announcers, Oh yeah, they're biased.
Speaker 1: Nick's announcers, they're biased. Portland announcers there, they're very biased.
Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, it's like Portland. They're very sad.
Speaker 3: But the the Laker announcers just were like, don't know
Speaker 3: why Isaac Start did that. That was just an obviously
Speaker 3: an inadvertent elbow They said inadvertent, in accidental at least
Speaker 3: ten times, like I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what happened? Do you see how mad I used
Speaker 1: to it was?
Speaker 3: It was just very clearly an accident by Lebron James,
Speaker 3: instead of being like, yo, this man clearly upon further,
Speaker 3: it was so funny because they went to the slow
Speaker 3: mo cam and they.
Speaker 1: Were like, as you can see here, this inadvertent.
Speaker 3: And they just stopped talking like they knew they couldn't
Speaker 3: keep up with the bit, like they couldn't because they
Speaker 3: knew it was bad.
Speaker 1: They it was so bad.
Speaker 3: And the Pistons announcers they've been through this before. They're OG's,
Speaker 3: and they're OG's in this scuffle. Gang Uh this is
Speaker 3: what they said they were. But I don't even want
Speaker 3: to see the chaos. This has happened before. They're like, hey, pa, fans,
Speaker 3: stay in your seats. Guys, do not come on to
Speaker 3: the floor. Do not enter the floor. All fans, I repeat,
Speaker 3: all fans stay in your seats. All fans do not
Speaker 3: come on to the floor. Do not throw any objects
Speaker 3: at Lebron James. Don't do it, or you will be
Speaker 3: nabbed and sent to jail. Stay exactly where you are.
Speaker 3: That's not my interpretation. That was an exact quote. That's
Speaker 3: exactly what they said. This is a guy who you know,
Speaker 3: has seen some shit. He saw Ben Wallace, he saw
Speaker 3: Ronald Tests, he saw fans getting fucking mollywopped, he saw
Speaker 3: multiple games, suspensions, money handed down, fines, jail time, jail time,
Speaker 3: cameras everywhere, Folks, it's a social media era.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 3: I was a freshman in college when Malice at the
Speaker 3: Palace happened. Facebook was still for college kids on campuses. Now, boy,
Speaker 3: we've got it all. We've got Instagram Live, we've got
Speaker 3: Instagram Stories, we've got TikTok, we've got Twitter, We've got everything.
Speaker 3: Cameras every This is worldwide, baby in a flash, in
Speaker 3: a flash, no need for news, no need for local KPTUV,
Speaker 3: like it is happening now. We Literally it was like
Speaker 3: maybe forty seconds after it happened, and I saw like
Speaker 3: fifteen angles globally, Like I had a guy from Spain
Speaker 3: who had his own Spanish angle. I don't know how
Speaker 3: he got that, but like, oh yeah, that's a damning angle.
Speaker 1: Literally, you got uh dun dun dun dun dun dah.
Speaker 3: You had like law and order literally interpreting how this
Speaker 3: the whole thing went down. How funny was it though,
Speaker 3: that the only person on the Lakers team that wanted
Speaker 3: any smoke Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: He had his fists out, he was ready.
Speaker 3: He was smiling, foaming at the mouth, crazy eyes, looking
Speaker 3: like you want this, like, let's go. They literally panned
Speaker 3: over in the in the highlight replay and it's like
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook legit looked like the Notre Dame fighting Irish logo.
Speaker 3: That was him, unfazed by Isaiah Isasor. It's like two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pounds bleeding, I don't care. He's also unvaccinated,
Speaker 3: unvaccinated six' eight, monster bleeding from the, face and you're, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: No i'm, Good like let's, Go let's come, on let's.
Speaker 1: Go he's like that fireman running into the burning.
Speaker 3: Building everybody's like, hey, pop and he's, LIKE i don't,
Speaker 3: Care i'm gonna go. In i'm, good Like i've seen some.
Speaker 3: Shit and then they asked him like they Asked Russell.
Speaker 3: Westbrook they were, like, hey, uh did you know that
Speaker 3: in the middle of all that you got a technical?
Speaker 3: Foul and he's, like who, Me, NO i didn't get
Speaker 3: a technical. Foul he's looking at the stat sheet like
Speaker 3: what do you, mean this is What Russell westbrook said.
Speaker 2: Before who got? TECH i got a?
Speaker 3: Tech? Oh?
Speaker 2: Wow why DID i get a? TECH i didn't know
Speaker 2: how to take?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 2: Escalated, wow that's. Interesting, well you know this is Being.
Speaker 2: RUSSELL i guess when You're Russell, westbroog they just try
Speaker 2: to do, anything, apparently but. WHATEVER i don't know why.
Speaker 2: THAT i don't know WHAT i, did but whatever they
Speaker 2: had to put on somebody it's, easy but not.
Speaker 3: Me they, literally if you look On, twitter they literally
Speaker 3: are showing a photo Of russ with his fists, up
Speaker 3: like why not?
Speaker 1: Me why You?
Speaker 3: Russ come, On, russ come on, Now? Russ you know,
Speaker 3: which maybe it was.
Speaker 1: Just fight or flight. Mode maybe he didn't even realize
Speaker 1: he did.
Speaker 3: It you, know it's one of those things like it's
Speaker 3: just a gut, check knee jerk. Reaction he's, LIKE i
Speaker 3: had no idea THAT i immediately went Into muhammad alias dance
Speaker 3: AND i went directly for the. Action he held no one.
Speaker 3: Back he literally did nothing to stop or prevent or
Speaker 3: slow the action. Down and so then, furthermore when the dust,
Speaker 3: settled it gets even more. Delicious everyone was chiming. In of,
Speaker 3: course my Man.
Speaker 1: Gilbert arenas had some things to.
Speaker 3: Say he's had his share of, kerfuffles as folks, Know,
Speaker 3: uh no, chill Gil as he calls himself online Aka
Speaker 3: agent zero aka guns in The Locker. Room, arenas he
Speaker 3: had no fucking chill this morning discussing the events in.
Speaker 1: Question this is what he.
Speaker 3: Said he must have spent an hour at least putting
Speaker 3: together this ig. Post he literally had to find everyone's
Speaker 3: tags To he literally tagged like ten people in this.
Speaker 3: Thing you have to, know you don't just know people's
Speaker 3: tags their handles off. Hand you have to find Their
Speaker 3: he's like putting hashtags in.
Speaker 1: There. Anyway people now.
Speaker 3: Using Gilbert arenas as ig as, News why what does
Speaker 3: it say you may ask that would precipitate? News this
Speaker 3: is it at The Isaiah stewart hey. B first of,
Speaker 3: all he found his random rookie. Guy, okay hey, Brother
Speaker 3: i'm gonna just be real with, you a loud face yelling,
Speaker 3: emoji pack all your, shit all cap, shit pack you
Speaker 3: winter jackets and your, boots because yo ass is about
Speaker 3: to be traded to Parentheses budapest. Somewhere crying, maid crying,
Speaker 3: moji crying, moji crying. EMOJI i don't know what type
Speaker 3: of bumbaclot blood got in YO e, pause excuse? Me
Speaker 3: that IS i don't know how sounds sort of. Racist
Speaker 3: i'm not sure, how BUT i think it. Is i'm
Speaker 3: not sure. HOW i think Is Isaiah stewart from The.
Speaker 3: CARIBBEAN i don't, know but it sounds kind of like
Speaker 3: that was A caribbean. Slur i'm not, sure but you
Speaker 3: can't charge at the Hashtag king like.
Speaker 1: That ON tv one, hundred you will be drug TESTED
Speaker 1: ti voice expeditiously to make sure that rage ain't drug.
Speaker 3: Related, Pause oh my, god we don't do that in THE.
Speaker 3: Nba you probably haven't read the memo on fight attempts
Speaker 3: in THE. Nba number, one don't square up With King
Speaker 3: james Easy Money sniper ever one. Hundred them two light
Speaker 3: skinned Boys Steph curry Or Klay thompson On Golden, state
Speaker 3: either don't let your chest get puffy towards, them or
Speaker 3: your ass is Done halo.
Speaker 1: Emoji number.
Speaker 3: Three only two teams that's allowed to fist fight with
Speaker 3: any real penalties Is Wherever, Rai Jon rondo And chris
Speaker 3: Paul is At crying face Emoji number, Four wait till
Speaker 3: your teammates get around, you.
Speaker 1: Then act tough for the.
Speaker 3: Crowd sell it like wwe okay, emoji prayer face prairie.
Speaker 1: Emoji that's, it good luck moving, forward my.
Speaker 3: Man, ps this was worse than the gun in the
Speaker 3: locker room situation crying face. Emoji some can say this
Speaker 3: was attempted murder hashtag attempted murder halo, emoji crying face.
Speaker 1: Emoji only thing that can save you.
Speaker 3: Right now IS mj dropping episode eleven Of Last dance
Speaker 3: and he edits, All Scottie pippen's scenes out Or Vanessa
Speaker 3: bryant Dropping Therma mamba's last. Season if you Think i'm,
Speaker 3: bullshitting Ask Enus kanter. Eleven he got too close to
Speaker 3: the king back in twenty, sixteen twenty, seventeen and The
Speaker 3: turkish president has been trying to catch his ass ever.
Speaker 3: Since running, emoji probably running for his, ass thinking, emoji smiling,
Speaker 3: emoji halo. Emoji what a world CLASS i, mean we've got, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 3: eight eight. Handles we've got like forty emojis we've GOT i,
Speaker 3: mean it's a, Lot we've got a. Lot this is The, internet,
Speaker 3: folks that it's finest so then of course they're Asking
Speaker 3: lebron's teammates like what's, up what's up with?
Speaker 1: This they did.
Speaker 3: Form around like they circled the right wagons Around lebron
Speaker 3: like it was when you, know you see Those western
Speaker 3: movies and they put the horse and carriage and buggies around.
Speaker 1: All save the women and. Children that Was Lebron.
Speaker 3: James Lebron james is the women and children of THE, nba,
Speaker 3: like Protect lebron at all.
Speaker 1: Costs he just stood there like protect.
Speaker 3: The, king like, Sire we've got you. Covered he looked at,
Speaker 3: It he looked at. Isaiasty we were, Like you're not
Speaker 3: gonna do a damn. Thing i've got this entire arena behind,
Speaker 3: me even Though i'm the one at. Fault can we just, say,
Speaker 3: though like if this Was Malik, monk that this would
Speaker 3: just not have been that any of this thing would have,
Speaker 3: Happened like, Everybody, ah, dog you did kind of get.
Speaker 1: Him in the elbow though he's. Bleeding he's bleeding a
Speaker 1: lot from his face right. NOW i don't, KNOW i don't.
Speaker 3: Know i'm not trying to catch this. TECH i already
Speaker 3: got thirteen on the. Air Anthony davis said that he
Speaker 3: was on the front lines Defending, braun but when in,
Speaker 3: reality as, normal he was on the side basically Watching
Speaker 3: Russell westbrook do. Everything, uh basically his entire career for
Speaker 3: this last nine. Months ad, said everyone in the league
Speaker 3: Knows lebron is not a dirty. Guy the moment that he,
Speaker 3: realized he Clock Stuart braun was trying to apologize and,
Speaker 3: said my.
Speaker 1: Bad um no he. Didn't that's a, lot that's a. Lie.
Speaker 1: Uh and then of Course.
Speaker 3: Anthony davis came out and, said we got A we're
Speaker 3: not promoting. Violence i'm not promoting. Violence our security and their,
Speaker 3: security they did a hell of a. Job he then
Speaker 3: pointed to his security guard as he left a press
Speaker 3: conference room for the shout. Out, uh Because Anthony davis
Speaker 3: knows that he is currently In. Detroit wants everyone to, Know,
Speaker 3: HEY i am with someone who's, strapped, like don't comfort.
Speaker 1: Me don't comfort.
Speaker 3: Me you see him over, there shout out To javon
Speaker 3: And trayvon And bubba And john over.
Speaker 1: There they're protecting.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 3: Uh he also said, this we're here to protect our.
Speaker 3: Brother i've never in ten years seen a player try
Speaker 3: to do that as long As i've been.
Speaker 1: Playing it's uncalled.
Speaker 3: For you've got to cut above your eye accidental like,
Speaker 3: Pause the LIKE i feel is.
Speaker 1: OPERATIVE i feel the like is it would.
Speaker 3: Be much MORE i don't, know convincing if you just said,
Speaker 3: accidental like it's an accidental no accidental like kind of
Speaker 3: feels like it's sort of also, purposeful like you know
Speaker 3: WHAT i, Mean like it's not quite on, purpose not
Speaker 3: quite on an. Accident and he, said we're gonna we're
Speaker 3: going to not allow him to keep charging our brother like.
Speaker 3: THAT i don't know what he was trying to, do
Speaker 3: but we wasn't gonna allow, that, Okay. Adie and he's
Speaker 3: not the kind of guy you want Your foxhill by the,
Speaker 3: way and by the, way for folks who want to
Speaker 3: know HOW I Isaiah stewart has calmed down or whether
Speaker 3: he's calmed.
Speaker 1: Down his only response so far has.
Speaker 3: Been to tweet out the date of The pistons next
Speaker 3: game against The, lakers and it Says, Sunday november twenty,
Speaker 3: eighth and he made sure to Tag Lebron james in
Speaker 3: said post MUSSY, tv mussy that's getting flexed a PRIMETIME
Speaker 3: i can promise this might be The Detroit piston's only
Speaker 3: nationalized televised, game nationally televised. Game like that's the what
Speaker 3: it's like THAT i could SEE espn like promoting this
Speaker 3: Like Isaiah stewart down nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: for the exchange With.
Speaker 1: Lebron how will these two operate together on the. Court it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy, like the wildest THING i think about the sequence
Speaker 3: is that you're now seeing a dog Shit lakers team
Speaker 3: use this as or try to use this as, Motivation
Speaker 3: like we all are now gonna use this mediocre win
Speaker 3: with a scuffle as the reason that we're gonna Become
Speaker 3: this is the turning point for. Us this is the
Speaker 3: inflection point of our entire. Season was When Lebron james
Speaker 3: elbowed that man Is. Estuary he almost got his ass.
Speaker 3: Beat they're now nine to nine.
Speaker 1: Gross. Gross Frank vogel basically is saying the same.
Speaker 3: THING i, mean he's on the hot, seat so he's
Speaker 3: got to say. Something he's got to provide cover that
Speaker 3: this is where things turn. Around he's on the hot
Speaker 3: seats checking his. Butt so this is what he said to.
Speaker 3: Me this is one of those things that can turn
Speaker 3: the momentum of your.
Speaker 1: Season is.
Speaker 3: It that's the determination that this team is going to.
Speaker 3: Need the, sentiment it, appears has spread like wildfire because
Speaker 3: many headlines are saying the same. Thing here are a
Speaker 3: Few lakers. Compete lakers complete wild come back In detroit
Speaker 3: to potentially turn around. Season can fracus can?
Speaker 1: FRACUS i Love edward. CAN'T i can't even say it without.
Speaker 3: Laughing can fracus sparked By Lebron james be turning point For?
Speaker 3: Lakers they'll have to prove, It but of, COURSE i,
Speaker 3: mean let me be their voice or reason and just,
Speaker 3: say for folks who believe This frucus is the turning,
Speaker 3: point it will not.
Speaker 1: Be it will absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Be And i've got two reasons, why two superstar sized.
Speaker 1: Reasons Anthony davis And.
Speaker 3: Lebron james broke your Bowls and.
Speaker 2: If you beg you'll be taking if you get to
Speaker 2: him byes you WAS i take this? TIME i know
Speaker 2: if you.
Speaker 3: Hope oh, Man i've watched this before my eyes since
Speaker 3: last season.
Speaker 1: Other time.
Speaker 3: Undefeated, nope he comes for, everyone comes for absolutely.
Speaker 1: Everyone it comes FOR. Mj that was bad when it.
Speaker 3: Did Kobe, Sad wilt Fucking. Chamberlain it came for. You never,
Speaker 3: know you just never know how or when he's gonna,
Speaker 3: come how he's gonna take you.
Speaker 1: Out but rest. ASSURED i mean he's.
Speaker 3: Coming he's he will for sure come for all of,
Speaker 3: us and it sure looks like the only person he
Speaker 3: has eyes for right.
Speaker 1: Now Is Lebron james The.
Speaker 3: KING a recent article In The athletic highlighted things THAT
Speaker 3: i have been seeing and, disputing kind of like trying
Speaker 3: to process in my brain if WHAT i saw was.
Speaker 3: Real so we're on other journalists write. It i'm, like,
Speaker 3: Okay i'm not. Insane the past nine months he has
Speaker 3: not been the same that high ankle. Sprain he even,
Speaker 3: Said i'm not gonna be ever fully recovered from this.
Speaker 3: INJURY i talked about this many. TIMES i high ank
Speaker 3: will sprain Myself may. First still not, healthy still in,
Speaker 3: pain still feel in the middle of the night like
Speaker 3: we made fun Of Lebron, james be, like, Oh i'm
Speaker 3: never gonna be one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Healthy Lebron james The.
Speaker 3: King of making things so, dramatic like so that he
Speaker 3: can look dominant and be, like, yeah, YEAH.
Speaker 1: I played through screws in my foot that whole title.
Speaker 3: Run we made fun of, them but nobody really Knows
Speaker 3: braun's body Like broun and now knowing that he didn't
Speaker 3: touch a basketball the entire, offseason which we're not really
Speaker 3: sure if it's true or if that's actually part of
Speaker 3: the dramatic narrative that he likes to. Create it does
Speaker 3: not currently look like he has fully recovered from that.
Speaker 1: Injury he does not look the. Same not only does
Speaker 1: he not look the, same the statistics aren't the same. Either,
Speaker 1: Uh they're really not the.
Speaker 3: Same this is what The athletic article lays, out this
Speaker 3: thirty six year old version Of Lebron, james While shirley's
Speaker 3: still good at. Basketball here's where it gets. Ugly just
Speaker 3: isn't that. Guy you're not that, Guy, Pal you're not that.
Speaker 3: Guy here's the cold, truth and it is backed up
Speaker 3: by cold. Facts it is a truth that few people
Speaker 3: want to. RECOGNIZE i don't want to recognize. It Lebron
Speaker 3: james is my. Age If Lebron.
Speaker 1: James has father time coming for, Him i'm right.
Speaker 3: Behind broun went down with that ankle injury he claimed
Speaker 3: that he would never recover.
Speaker 1: From so we should have listened.
Speaker 3: Closer this is what the article noted in terms of
Speaker 3: statistics and how he's performing in the game right, now damning,
Speaker 3: Evidence Lebron james is taking half as many free.
Speaker 1: Throws as he did a year.
Speaker 3: Ago he's going to the basket far less and becoming
Speaker 3: increasingly reliant on threes for his. Offense and we Know
Speaker 3: Lebron james should not be reliant on threes for his.
Speaker 3: Offense he's gotten a lot, better but come, on, now
Speaker 3: it's comprising currently nearly half his. Shots Lebron james's average shot,
Speaker 3: distance which hovered between eleven and twelve feet for most
Speaker 3: of his, career jumped to fourteen, feet just shy fourteen
Speaker 3: feet in twenty twenty, one and now his average shot
Speaker 3: distance is fifteen.
Speaker 1: Feet holy, shit we have IT'S i, mean it's a
Speaker 1: small sample, size but.
Speaker 3: He's still shooting sixty five point nine percent at the,
Speaker 3: rim which is by far the worst of his. Career
Speaker 3: one of the biggest values Of Lebron james has been,
Speaker 3: rebounding and now it feels like he's often paralyzed on the,
Speaker 3: floor where his rebound rate is the worst of his.
Speaker 3: Career just the seven point six rebound.
Speaker 1: Rate he's, like doesn't want to test that ankle.
Speaker 3: Anymore doesn't want to, jump which will he that abdomen
Speaker 3: and impede that. ANKLE i mean jumping high in the
Speaker 3: air to get a rebound you do not need to
Speaker 3: Get that's exactly WHY i don't go for rebounds WHEN
Speaker 3: i play basketball in pickup, runs it's, like, ah you
Speaker 3: guys get.
Speaker 1: It i'm.
Speaker 3: Good i've torn my shit up enough times and there's
Speaker 3: too many, bodies too many feet to land on.
Speaker 1: Underneath there way too.
Speaker 3: Many even the shots that he used to get away
Speaker 3: with with no problem now have.
Speaker 1: Been sus verry sus.
Speaker 3: Uh in the twenty minutes he played against The, pistons
Speaker 3: he was stonewalled against the guy six' three that that should.
Speaker 1: Not happen he literally got Bodied By. Corey Joseph, corey joseph,
Speaker 1: who uh that's.
Speaker 3: No Slander To, Corey joseph but come, on now consecutive
Speaker 3: post Ups By corey joseph, for example, for Example And
Speaker 3: jeremy grant blocked his step back three. Multiple times when
Speaker 3: is the last time you Ever Saw lebron james three
Speaker 3: pointer or any jump shot? Be blocked like he's, six' eight, six,',
Speaker 3: nine good, vertical, Long, arms Strong no like i've never
Speaker 3: seen that, in my life and it happened multiple. Times
Speaker 3: last night, these are, facts, cold hard indisputable, very cogent
Speaker 3: facts no matter how much you Want To say lebron
Speaker 3: james can return To The. Old lebron james the fact
Speaker 3: that the matter is father. Time is coming we keep
Speaker 3: Saying That, about Tom Brady but tom brady's not in
Speaker 3: the mix getting bodied. All the time that's why he
Speaker 3: has an offensive line, to protect him because he's. Old
Speaker 3: As fuck lebron james is not Much Younger, than tom
Speaker 3: brady especially when he plays a much more. Consistently physical
Speaker 3: Role And if lebron james, DOESN'T get, right i mean
Speaker 3: this is the entire reason that the roster exists the
Speaker 3: way that it Does Is because lebron james is the,
Speaker 3: centerpiece of it and he supposedly needs these pieces in
Speaker 3: order to maximize. Who he is if, he's Not him
Speaker 3: the lakers are. In serious trouble if he's, not the
Speaker 3: king if he's, just, the prince fuck if. He's The
Speaker 3: Pauper My lord john hollinger speaks, more about this and you.
Speaker 1: Put it perfectly playing against.
Speaker 3: The bad team the Fact that the lakers ended up
Speaker 3: winning is hardly cause. For. A parade, Facts in fact
Speaker 3: detroit Was the latest patsy in a joke of an
Speaker 3: early Schedule for the lakers THAT eventually gets i love
Speaker 3: That they Called, detroit to patsy Especially Given that isaiah
Speaker 3: stewart was About to Beat. LEBRON'S ass patsy i. Don't
Speaker 3: think so these are the, BAD boys. Anyway, i digress
Speaker 3: uh the schedule gets. Much, much harder remember this was
Speaker 3: supposed to be the Time for the lakers to had.
Speaker 3: Their win total that little win boosted them up Two.
Speaker 3: Spots against detroit. It's Still gross lebron james is now.
Speaker 3: A Perimeter player lebron james is now, a perimeter player
Speaker 3: and the problem is. He shouldn't be he is designed
Speaker 3: to be a guy who can, do many things not
Speaker 3: just shoot thirty feet.
Speaker 1: From the basket he's not a.
Speaker 3: World class shooter He's Never, been steph curry He's Never,
Speaker 3: been klay thompson He's Never.
Speaker 1: Been dame lillard that's the.
Speaker 3: Reason He surround lebron james with Shooters Is because lebron james.
Speaker 3: Is no shooter, he's gotten better But, He's no Jokic
Speaker 3: He's no luca and the fact that he's shooting half
Speaker 3: of his shots from behind the arc is if that,
Speaker 3: WAS my team i. WOULDN'T be stoked i would. Not
Speaker 3: be stoked, that is troubling a troubling for a team
Speaker 3: that was Supposed to Be bron ad russ and a
Speaker 3: boatloader shooters like he. Has no snipers he is now
Speaker 3: the sniper who can't. Do anything else and now it's
Speaker 3: Easier to defend lebron.
Speaker 1: Because you know he's not going. Up for, rebounds you
Speaker 1: know he's not going around the Room and doing he's
Speaker 1: not gonna go down and. Dunk over someone that's just
Speaker 1: not what he's.
Speaker 3: Gonna do consistently his reluctance to go to the rim
Speaker 3: makes him much.
Speaker 1: EASIER to defend. I don't know maybe that changes close.
Speaker 1: TO the playoffs. I don't Know maybe.
Speaker 3: Maybe i'm gonna, look silly again like we've all Been
Speaker 3: Waiting for tom, brady to decline but like It Looks
Speaker 3: like lebron.
Speaker 1: James is declining that's what all.
Speaker 3: These stats say, they, the team Though, even if braun for,
Speaker 3: some godly reason has A deal with father time, for
Speaker 3: the playoffs they. Need him now they need his, dominance
Speaker 3: right now because if bron can't.
Speaker 1: Be dominant inside.
Speaker 3: If he can't get, to the, line this team this
Speaker 3: team is. Going to struggle this team's going to struggle
Speaker 3: to even be in the. Play in tournament they might
Speaker 3: not even make the. Playoffs at all and now that
Speaker 3: he's dealing with even, more nagging injuries it basically underscores
Speaker 3: just how important that he is to, the team's success
Speaker 3: how important that he is to their ability. To go
Speaker 3: deep because eighteen games, of The season the lakers are
Speaker 3: Five hundred and braun has been out for many, of
Speaker 3: those games and with him in they could barely Compete
Speaker 3: against The. Detroit fucking pistons the patsis that they are
Speaker 3: against a. Ridiculously easy schedule they. Can't do shit And
Speaker 3: now that braun Is, no Longer braun the lakers.
Speaker 1: Are in trouble trouble true sip side trying to, provide for.
Speaker 3: Me for, me for me. Bye for me they are
Speaker 3: slip sliding, down the standings and they are looking for
Speaker 3: a d to provide.
Speaker 1: Some, semblance of, something some.
Speaker 3: Leadership some dominance braun is over there, in the corner
Speaker 3: licking his wounds, in the, cave, cut, up bruised, battered it's, Like,
Speaker 3: all right ad, we need you and he's thirty, seven
Speaker 3: years old he's got, an abdominal's train he's got, an
Speaker 3: ankle spraying, we NEED you.
Speaker 1: And i don't know how good it's been.
Speaker 3: Going so far one of the main reasons and one
Speaker 3: of the main THINGS That the nba twitter discussed in
Speaker 3: the Offseason when the Lakers broad in russ and all
Speaker 3: the youngsters and All Those former All, stars like carmelo
Speaker 3: IS that a d at the five was going to transform.
Speaker 1: This team and all.
Speaker 3: THESE other pieces ad at the five made. Them make
Speaker 3: sense it was going to, transform this franchise.
Speaker 1: And it has it is. It really has it seems
Speaker 1: that This plan of ad.
Speaker 3: At to five at the beginning of the season, to
Speaker 3: play big which is why they signed two big men TO,
Speaker 3: go with ad. Wasn't gonna work that was. Their original
Speaker 3: plan are we GONNA play a d at the five
Speaker 3: or are we gonna play these other two guys? At
Speaker 3: The five because ads doesn't really want to. Be the
Speaker 3: five he's kind, of a four but we're better. At
Speaker 3: the five so this is. What's Going on DeAndre Jordan
Speaker 3: and dwight Howard are now lakers and Very, similarly to Mantres,
Speaker 3: Harral and Andre. Drummond and marcusol. It's not working they
Speaker 3: are watching. On the bench they, are getting DMPs they are.
Speaker 3: Not getting Minutes You've Got dwight howard. Dow, shooting grees
Speaker 3: yeah that happened. Twice LAST night.
Speaker 2: Yeah i?
Speaker 1: Did why though?
Speaker 3: What is happening the Immutable Fact, is anthony davis despite
Speaker 3: him not wanting to, be the five is a better
Speaker 3: five than he. Is a four just changes the complexity
Speaker 3: of the lineups and rotations the people that he plays
Speaker 3: against when, he's at five puts him in.
Speaker 1: A better position and having a slow, prodding big Man
Speaker 1: these and visilin are.
Speaker 3: Fucking me up this prodding Big men Like Drummond, And, Montreal, Well,
Speaker 3: Montrez Drummond.
Speaker 1: Marcsol dwight javail that's not that's not, gonna, Do it
Speaker 1: dog that's just not. Gonna do it that's. They gotta go.
Speaker 1: They gotta go so what. Is the problem we've got eight.
Speaker 1: At the five. What's the problem the problem is that
Speaker 1: eighty at the five.
Speaker 3: Is not working, not, working either uh given that roster
Speaker 3: construction and the spot floor spacing, of this team eighty
Speaker 3: at the Five when the lakers are just, two and
Speaker 3: four eighty. At the five let me, say it again
Speaker 3: with eighty. At The five the lakers are just, two
Speaker 3: and four and that is including this last improbable Kerfuffle.
Speaker 3: Fracas in detroit there was a Recent Article in lakers
Speaker 3: nation came out and said what we've. All been Thinking
Speaker 3: Head coach frank vogel recognized that the team was far
Speaker 3: more effective on both ends of The floor when davis.
Speaker 3: Was at, center Since then the, Lakers two Centers, jordan
Speaker 3: and howard have gotten Minimal minutes as davis takes a
Speaker 3: majority of time at, the center position and so in
Speaker 3: theory this, should work out, but in Reality none the
Speaker 3: lakers roster makes.
Speaker 1: Sense right now they, should be good.
Speaker 3: But they aren't they've got a, lot of stars but it's.
Speaker 3: Not really working they, should play defense. But they Don't
Speaker 3: And even, FRANK vogel's LIKE i don't i just couldn't
Speaker 3: tell you.
Speaker 1: What's going on he knows. What we know the spacing.
Speaker 1: Is a problem sh don't tell anyone the spacing consistently.
Speaker 1: Is an, issue, he.
Speaker 3: Goes yeah, if we move, if we move the. Spacing
Speaker 3: looks great the ball doesn't move and. Players don't move
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 1: Spacing. You have pause that's pretty much the, heart of.
Speaker 3: It isn't it we're playing one on one and we
Speaker 3: just get the ball moving.
Speaker 1: A little more and when, we do it we look
Speaker 1: great and we've seen that we. Can do it we've
Speaker 1: just got to do it longer and obviously for. Forty,
Speaker 1: eight minutes yeah.
Speaker 3: That's A quote even braun is struggling to figure out,
Speaker 3: what's going on how to. Make this, work, he's like
Speaker 3: yeah we're just trying to find the lineup the.
Speaker 1: Best.
Speaker 3: Fits us pause we are now, currently checks notes.
Speaker 1: Almost a quarter of the way, through the Season and
Speaker 1: the lakers still don't know what. Lineups work, best excuse
Speaker 1: me that. Is not great. That is significant Alarm bells
Speaker 1: should that is what training. Camp is for.
Speaker 3: That is training that is legitimately what training camp and.
Speaker 3: Preseason is for figure out, how people mesh where, the chemistry,
Speaker 3: is what. Lineups rotations work this is what he. Has to, say,
Speaker 3: even more obviously we started the SEASON big WITH dj
Speaker 3: and ad and myself, at the three, four or five
Speaker 3: and as of late we've Went smaller with ad.
Speaker 1: At the five so we're just trying.
Speaker 3: To figure out getting enough minutes long enough to see
Speaker 3: what best lineups work for us and how we want to.
Speaker 3: See US play like, i said before this was a
Speaker 3: tricky lineup in, Any genius's book like this roster, may
Speaker 3: never work but in order for it to cobble together
Speaker 3: and work like you NEED a high iq head coach
Speaker 3: that understands how, everyone, functions together deficiencies how, the rotations,
Speaker 3: work second. Unit third unit do You Really trust frank vogel,
Speaker 3: with anything complex like?
Speaker 1: COMPLEX problem.
Speaker 3: Solving i don't and that's why he's got to check
Speaker 3: his butt because he's on the Hot Seat like. Luke
Speaker 3: walton was, By The way. Luke walton's gone now you
Speaker 3: know what kind of team has roster issues a quarter
Speaker 3: Of the season In.
Speaker 1: The fucking kings that's the.
Speaker 3: Kind of Team, bad teams, Houston, you know orlando they
Speaker 3: like have too many guards they don't know what.
Speaker 1: To, Do, With Like, okay kings aforida what are? You
Speaker 1: talking about Here's.
Speaker 3: More from braun obviously we played big over the course
Speaker 3: of my YEARS here In, la with Frank, obviously With,
Speaker 3: javail with dwight and Last year With Mark.
Speaker 1: And big drum when he came, to the team and as.
Speaker 1: Well as treads we'll see where we land.
Speaker 3: At some point what that's like a pilot who doesn't know,
Speaker 3: The flight, path who's like we'll see if We land
Speaker 3: in Bali, Or, IN.
Speaker 1: HOUSTON like.
Speaker 3: Whoa i think it will probably happen over the course
Speaker 3: of the, next few, weeks he says as we get
Speaker 3: close to pretty much a fourth, of the Season here's where,
Speaker 3: i'll mention again in the first quarter, of the Season
Speaker 3: where the lakers have played a huge percentage of their
Speaker 3: games at, home against. Weak fucking teams that was the
Speaker 3: point that you're supposed to get the head start so
Speaker 3: that you can pager record so that when the real
Speaker 3: games come you don't, look so bad so you can
Speaker 3: actually have a good win total Heading Into The. All
Speaker 3: Star Break At, all star break, at this rate you
Speaker 3: are going to be. In real trouble and this Is
Speaker 3: Why that isaiah stewart game was so important. And so
Speaker 3: telling Even though the lakers, ended up winning we saw
Speaker 3: all of the, glaringly obvious issues all. Of The problems,
Speaker 3: john hollinger wrote much as they try to experiment, with
Speaker 3: Big lineups this lakers team is Far better with davis
Speaker 3: at five as a menacing switching defensive monster than trying
Speaker 3: to play Huge lineups with Davis next To Dwight. Or
Speaker 3: DeAndre jordan the lakers have tried those combos for a
Speaker 3: total of one hundred and eighty two minutes and have
Speaker 3: been outscored by. Thirty six, points and yet though here's where.
Speaker 3: It Gets tricky with davis, as the five they're still
Speaker 3: only winning a third of their, Games, against Again Okay
Speaker 3: see detroit houston, like they are they could be, even
Speaker 3: worse shape like they could Have Lost to san Antonio
Speaker 3: in Overtime Memphis one ja, morant free throwaway like this,
Speaker 3: Is NOT good like i, cannot, Express, like oh tristy
Speaker 3: You hate the lakers and so you're just an alarm
Speaker 3: miss because you want them to fail and, true and
Speaker 3: true but that does not have to do, with anything
Speaker 3: here which is that the facts are what happens when
Speaker 3: you go on the road to play a Team like
Speaker 3: The Jazz with rudy Gobert or the Nets. Or the
Speaker 3: bucks how will this lineup deal with athletic big men who.
Speaker 3: Stretched the floor have multiple big men, That are, athletics
Speaker 3: like fuck.
Speaker 1: You Can lose to.
Speaker 3: Cleveland like easily there are so many Questions surrounding the,
Speaker 3: lakers right now and it just doesn't feel like there.
Speaker 1: Are any answers it.
Speaker 3: Just doesn't feel like logically like you hope that it,
Speaker 3: might get better but you can't really think of how the.
Speaker 1: Solution is going to.
Speaker 3: Come to fruition This is not they don't even have
Speaker 3: a lineup that makes sense for them in the first
Speaker 3: and second unit. That is Successful you've got braun No
Speaker 3: longer being braun ad who has health issues and at
Speaker 3: the five makes, sense on paper but in reality is
Speaker 3: not going to. Win them games the spacing issues that
Speaker 3: WE'VE talked about i don't know a good jillion times have.
Speaker 3: Not been fixed they will. Not be fixed let me just,
Speaker 3: say this again spacing issues not.
Speaker 1: Gonna be fixed why because basically it all comes. Down
Speaker 1: To this russell westbrook doesn't move. Without the wall. That's
Speaker 1: just it.
Speaker 3: That's it there it's like a Successful rotation with braun
Speaker 3: And eighty and russ doesn't Exist. Because of russ It's
Speaker 3: almost like russ doesn't fit. With this team It's Almost
Speaker 3: like buddy heales should. Have been there It's almost like
Speaker 3: lebron SHOULDN'T. BE the gm, i don't know maybe.
Speaker 1: They fix it. Maybe THEY don't maybe i look like
Speaker 1: an Idiot At The.
Speaker 3: Western Conference finals maybe i'm watching Them Again at staples
Speaker 3: Center in, the PLAN game like i watch that with my.
Speaker 3: Own two eyes they were. In the plan maybe this
Speaker 3: is just a ten seed with a bunch. Of nice
Speaker 3: names maybe this is.
Speaker 1: The eleven seed maybe we're all like.
Speaker 3: On first take we discuss is this The End of lebron,
Speaker 3: james My Column like russell westbrook probably said it best when,
Speaker 3: HE admitted postgame i think the reality of it is,
Speaker 3: on the outside we have really high expectations, of our
Speaker 3: team and they should. And we should but the reality,
Speaker 3: of it is we have not played well with each
Speaker 3: other eighteen games, in THE season and i don't, have
Speaker 3: chemistry yet no closer to having chemistry than when they
Speaker 3: didn't win a game. In THE preseason and i, tell
Speaker 3: you what, at certain point it's just gonna. Be too
Speaker 3: late get, Your, shit together, lakers because truthfully even, as
Speaker 3: a hater playoffs are better when. You're in it that's.
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