WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: What is Dak’s Ceiling?

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<v Speaker 4>Straight Second's got Tis Tuxdowns, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,

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<v Speaker 4>Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 2>It's officially the regular season. Game week is here.

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<v Speaker 3>through the regular season, as the Dallas Cowboys get ready

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<v Speaker 3>This week, it's a Talking Tuesday, and we're glad you're

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Harris, I'm Kyle Yeoman's the usual crew that'll be

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<v Speaker 3>here along for the ride throughout the twenty twenty three season. Gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>it's good to be back, and I mean we've been back.

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<v Speaker 3>We got back seeing freaking here.

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<v Speaker 5>Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it feels different in here, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff to talk about, both uphand both down for

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys, at least over the last weekend and week

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<v Speaker 3>of work. But wow, I mean, hey, week ones here.

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<v Speaker 3>You excited, Nick? This is your first go at it too?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely excited.

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<v Speaker 7>Not only is it my first go at it, but

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I feel pretty good about where this team

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<v Speaker 7>is at and then what it can accomplish. I'm really

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<v Speaker 7>excited about getting this going for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>John, you ready to get back to the grind of things. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>For me, it's all about the offense.

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<v Speaker 9>Just because we didn't get to see it in any

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<v Speaker 9>of the preseason games. You didn't get to see him

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<v Speaker 9>practice against another team, so there's a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 9>unpredictable to it that I'm really excited about, just because

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<v Speaker 9>we know this is one of the best teams in

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<v Speaker 9>the NFC. But it's always like, Okay, well you fell

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<v Speaker 9>short in the playoffs, how do you take that next step?

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<v Speaker 9>What is going to be the thing that gets you

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<v Speaker 9>to the next level? And it very well could be

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<v Speaker 9>their defense And we can look back on this and

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<v Speaker 9>be like it was kind of overblown talking all about

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<v Speaker 9>the offense. Team's about the defense now whatever, But there's

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<v Speaker 9>just so much that I want to see from the

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<v Speaker 9>offense that that remains my number one thing that has

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<v Speaker 9>got me probably more excited for the start of this

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<v Speaker 9>season than any other since I've covered the team.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're excited about the potential there on offense, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think the identity to this team, Isaiah, what would

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<v Speaker 3>you say the identity is?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it just defense, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>All defense, there's no real specific to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Or is it pass rush or levels or what would

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<v Speaker 3>you I want you to get specific with.

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<v Speaker 5>How just get detailed.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to get gritty, what's weak one? No more generalities.

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<v Speaker 4>I think teams fear because that's what I think that

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<v Speaker 4>we need to lean towards. We start talking about what

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<v Speaker 4>the makeup of this team is. Teams fear the pass rush.

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<v Speaker 4>When you think of the Dallas Cowboys, you fear their

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<v Speaker 4>pass rush, And I think that's the first thing you

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<v Speaker 4>need to go to whenever you face an opponent.

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<v Speaker 5>What do we fear?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's the first thing we need to attack, right,

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<v Speaker 4>We need to we need to find a solution for that,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we can start working all way through everything else.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you don't have a solution for Dallas's pass rush,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't see.

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<v Speaker 9>Any chance, especially with what they added on the back

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<v Speaker 9>end with Gilmour, another year for Bland, another year for Diggs,

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<v Speaker 9>another year for that secondary to be together.

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<v Speaker 8>It just it all plays into like they just they would.

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<v Speaker 9>Love for teams to just sit back and have to

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<v Speaker 9>throw all day, you know, And so obviously teams aren't

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<v Speaker 9>gonna do that. I expect the Giants to come out

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<v Speaker 9>and try and run the ball and try and win

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<v Speaker 9>that way. And obviously that's why you go out and

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<v Speaker 9>draft a Massie Smith and you resigned Jonathan Hankins. So

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<v Speaker 9>that'll be the key, is to stop the run because

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<v Speaker 9>if they do that, everything else to take care of itself.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of goes back to what we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>previously on this show, both last year and then through

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<v Speaker 3>the off season, is if you give this pass rush

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<v Speaker 3>another half second.

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<v Speaker 2>The numbers could explode. I mean, and that's it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all it takes on average.

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<v Speaker 3>If you give them another half second to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback, give them maybe even a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>than that, You give him a full second, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden Michael Parsons could be Defensive Player of

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<v Speaker 3>the Year. That secondary never gave them that time or

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<v Speaker 3>at least a good enough amount of time for them

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<v Speaker 3>to really explode.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you look at it and say this secondary could

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<v Speaker 2>do so one thousand percent.

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<v Speaker 7>Michael Parsons said during training camp that the addition of

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<v Speaker 7>Stefan Gilmore is going to give him at least three

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<v Speaker 7>more sacks.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's a lot of truth in that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>with this pass rush, I'm very curious to see how

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<v Speaker 7>they come out just the defensive front. I'm very curious

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<v Speaker 7>to see how they come out against the run because

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<v Speaker 7>that's going to be the biggest indicator of how successful

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<v Speaker 7>this defense is in my opinion. We know the pass

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<v Speaker 7>rush is going to be fine. We know they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to be great in coverage. The one weakness that they

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<v Speaker 7>had last year, has that been solved? Has it been

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<v Speaker 7>worked one enough to the fact to where it's not

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<v Speaker 7>a weakness anymore? You know, I like how they finished

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<v Speaker 7>the season with Hankins last year. Can they rotate with

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<v Speaker 7>Hankins and Mazi throughout the season and it be healthy

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<v Speaker 7>and it be you know, efficient, That's That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 7>going to be looking for. And they have a really

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<v Speaker 7>tough stretch to start the season, So we're gonna find

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<v Speaker 7>out really early on Saquon Barkley, Dalvin Cook, James Connor,

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<v Speaker 7>Christian McCaffery. I mean, the list, the list goes down,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's not gonna get any easier until you're bye week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when we're talking about identity and fearing the strength

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<v Speaker 3>of certain teams, John, when you look at New York

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<v Speaker 3>coming up this week, what do you fear about New York?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean their defensive tackles are real good. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 9>that certainly could be an issue there when you have,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, Tyler Battish and then you have uh an

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<v Speaker 9>injury to Tyler Smith with a hamstring. So it doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>sound like it'll be something that might keep him out.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's talk about that a little bit. Because as

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty minutes ago, an.

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<v Speaker 3>Update posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com added caution being

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<v Speaker 3>taken with Tyler Smith this week is the Cowboys prepared

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<v Speaker 3>to open their season. Former first round pick will undergo

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<v Speaker 3>a precautionary MRI on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 9>So you don't love your offensive line depth because of

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<v Speaker 9>that can we just talk about this yeah, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 9>the interior.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple times, actually a few times, dag nab it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the one position group that you can't afford an

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<v Speaker 5>we talked about one position particular.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, guard, is this our fault?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe we talked about we said you can move, you

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<v Speaker 5>could tackle. Something that can happen at the tackle position, right,

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully not center.

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<v Speaker 4>But guard we're like guard, there's no room for error, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no room at all.

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta start knocking on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, beam, where's the wood in this new ste right here?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the that's the closest thing.

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<v Speaker 8>That grove up front with Dexter Lawrence Lean Williams.

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<v Speaker 5>They're nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're nasty.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we know about the NFC East, right, the NFC

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<v Speaker 4>East gets into the trenches. That's what the NFC East

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<v Speaker 4>has been known for. That is the identity of the East.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, these guys they continue to be strong, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>the New York Giants they have a two headed monster

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<v Speaker 4>in there, just much like the Dallas Cowboys have a

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<v Speaker 4>two headed monster on the outside at cornerback and at

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<v Speaker 4>defensive end.

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<v Speaker 5>They have a two headed monster at.

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<v Speaker 4>The defensive tackle position, and that is where their question

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<v Speaker 4>mark is now risen.

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<v Speaker 5>Because of the question marked with who Tyler? So it's scary.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't get any better with Kavon Sibbodo on the

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<v Speaker 7>outside as well, get any But.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't need to keep bringing up I mean, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but you know, but I feel I feel

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<v Speaker 4>good about our tackles right like I really do, and

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<v Speaker 4>I feel good about our about Dallas's offensive line as

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<v Speaker 4>an as a whole. However, as we mentioned last week's

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<v Speaker 4>you can't afford an injury to the interior office line

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<v Speaker 4>because you don't have a solid, confident option to roll

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<v Speaker 4>in there and say, okay, I guess well, you can

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<v Speaker 4>feel that void if something was that happened to the tackle,

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<v Speaker 4>we alread knew what the game plan was, right, cupid shuffle,

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<v Speaker 4>you bump Tyler Smith out, Bloom boo boom, everybody fits in.

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<v Speaker 9>We're good now what Yeah, that's the thing too with hamstrings,

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<v Speaker 9>you just don't want it to linger. So that's probably

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<v Speaker 9>why you want the MRI because he could sit there

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<v Speaker 9>and say after they he's feeling better and everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 9>But you want to make sure that you take every

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<v Speaker 9>possible you know, plan of attack on that, because you

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<v Speaker 9>don't want it to be something that you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 9>all season long.

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<v Speaker 4>And hammy, hammy sucked because in a controlled environment there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, on the on the way back from you know,

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<v Speaker 4>mending an injury, you can feel pretty good, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a little strength test, You're good, k little hamstring curl,

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<v Speaker 4>you can isolate it, okay, But when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the quick twitch and the changing directions and all those things.

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<v Speaker 4>And obviously I don't know exactly how he got injured,

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what caused it, what movement he was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you out there, Nick, were you able to see

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<v Speaker 2>that portion of practice?

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<v Speaker 7>So the offensive line was on the very very far side,

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<v Speaker 7>and we just kind of caught him walking in right

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<v Speaker 7>towards the end of the media session yesterday, and then

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Jim Mauer was right almost said Joe Mauer.

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<v Speaker 6>Jim Maler was coming in right behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>So Minnesota Twins awesome football player.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think with yeah, because for those of you

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<v Speaker 3>at home, the media doesn't get to watch the entirety

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<v Speaker 3>of practice anymore. So even if these injuries pop up

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<v Speaker 3>in practice, it's hard to see unless you're one on

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<v Speaker 3>the field and two in the right spot because they

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<v Speaker 3>really limit you to one side of the field, so

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you're looking across the side, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't even really see anything like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah it.

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<v Speaker 7>Jerry Jones did just say on the fan about thirty

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<v Speaker 7>minutes ago. We'll get an MRI on that today. But

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<v Speaker 7>we felt better about that after we assess it after practice.

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<v Speaker 7>You always are concerned initially. Nothing we've evaluated keeps him

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<v Speaker 7>out Sunday at this point.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's good, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess that's that's good optimistic.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, I think he said it because it's a

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<v Speaker 9>Sunday night game and he probably has it like thinking

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<v Speaker 9>of Monday night type thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But for sure, for sure either way from those de

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<v Speaker 4>tackles are going to be liking the tops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because they're going to see the injury report.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely going to go right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tyler Smith will be tested in week one, no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>From whether he's healthy or not.

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<v Speaker 9>From your standpoint, if you going into this knowing that

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<v Speaker 9>A we might have a tough time at handling their

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<v Speaker 9>defensive tackles, how do you combat that?

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<v Speaker 8>What do you have to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 8>What what do you have to do.

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<v Speaker 9>Offensively to kind of bring in some extra protection there

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<v Speaker 9>to make sure that you're good.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first, I mean this offense is made to stop

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<v Speaker 4>a pass rush, Okay, So that's first off. Dak's not

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<v Speaker 4>going to be back there holding the ball. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>care what defensive front you're you're facing. So that's the

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<v Speaker 4>positive thing about this offense. And I think that was

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<v Speaker 4>an intentional change from last year based upon some of

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<v Speaker 4>the struggles that Dak had. Right they wanted to get

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<v Speaker 4>the ball out of his hand, quicker, easier decisions. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>not hold it, Let's not force him to have to

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<v Speaker 4>make these decisions where the possibly can have some interceptions.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think they are literally blanketing him in that

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<v Speaker 4>way protection wise. But in terms of the running game,

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<v Speaker 4>get these guys moving, get a movie, get down on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Rent the ball right at Tibeteaum freaking ay. We know

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<v Speaker 4>you can pass rest well, we're gonna run this ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Tyronsman can come at you, okay, that heavy pocket, uh

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<v Speaker 4>Terry is still gonna come at you.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna run this ball right down your face mask

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<v Speaker 4>and force you to stop us. And then the big

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<v Speaker 4>boys in the middle, we're going to see exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>your win is looking like and how that conditioning worked

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<v Speaker 4>this off season for you.

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<v Speaker 7>Speak of the running game, one thing I'm really looking

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<v Speaker 7>forward to seeing and I want to see it first

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<v Speaker 7>drive re option.

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<v Speaker 6>I want it back. I want to see Dak back

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<v Speaker 6>out that slow.

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<v Speaker 5>That was slow Tobeau down.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely wanted to keep him off balanced.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, because we haven't seen that in the last

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<v Speaker 7>couple of years since his injury. So and I know

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<v Speaker 7>he could still do it. They tested it a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit during training camp, put it on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to that in action.

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<v Speaker 9>The other thing that's been missing for is in terms

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<v Speaker 9>of being effective for the last few years, is really

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<v Speaker 9>the screen game with the running backs, and I just

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<v Speaker 9>you know, they got to find a way to get

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<v Speaker 9>that work now. Of course, you know it probably looked

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<v Speaker 9>great because when Zeke started out in his career, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>you're talking one of the best backs in the league.

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<v Speaker 9>You had one of the best offensive lines in the league.

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<v Speaker 9>So I mean those two things factor together. But I

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<v Speaker 9>think of like Zeke's biggest highlights with the Cowboys, and

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<v Speaker 9>if I'm doing like a top ten or fifteen, like

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<v Speaker 9>three or four, some of the screens he took, he

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<v Speaker 9>took to the house, or just had big gains on it,

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<v Speaker 9>and that really has been missing the last few years.

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm wondering if they're able to kind of get

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<v Speaker 9>that back.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're playing you definitely see that, because that's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the ways you slow down really good defensive tackles.

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<v Speaker 4>You slow them down by screen keeping them off guard

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<v Speaker 4>and giving them more things that they have to worry

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<v Speaker 4>about and be concerned about.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you need a mobile and healthy guard to pull

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<v Speaker 2>on those screens most of the time though you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Your jerk contrace as.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's part of it. That's part of

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<v Speaker 2>the screen game.

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<v Speaker 3>You need your interior lineman to be healthy and mobile,

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<v Speaker 3>and for the most part, those guys are good at

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<v Speaker 3>doing so.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Smith's better in a phone booth.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about that already. Or I should say he's

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<v Speaker 3>can at the tackle spot than he is in a

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<v Speaker 3>phone booth, is what I meant to say. He's better outside,

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<v Speaker 3>he's better in space. But when he's healthy, that's the case.

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<v Speaker 4>You can switch things up with the offensive scheme. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>your guard and your center can interchange their responsibilities on

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<v Speaker 4>some of those screenplays. He's gonna take a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more work.

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<v Speaker 11>Though.

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<v Speaker 7>You can also throw an offset tight end or an

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<v Speaker 7>offset full back offset full back.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to say that a little bit louder

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<v Speaker 3>for the people in the back?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Hunter Lipkey?

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, I was because I was before you

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<v Speaker 3>started talking about Hunter Lipkey. I was about to say,

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<v Speaker 3>where's our blocking tight end as well, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the guys on the roster are pass catchers, at least

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<v Speaker 3>at their strength. Maybe Jake Ferguson is your leading blocker

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of a tight end right now.

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<v Speaker 8>I can see mckewn being called.

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<v Speaker 2>Up from the practice squad. That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean mckwn and CJ. Goblin I think would probably

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<v Speaker 9>be the two.

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<v Speaker 8>Favorites as of right now to get black Coffman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>oh that's true too, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you bring up offensive linemen, don't you get three?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you get three? I got to look at the rules. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the regular season again, change refresh.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I've got a refresh because I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you do bring up an offensive lineman, you get

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<v Speaker 3>three elevations.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I don't know about that for sure.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm telling you that rollbook will beat you down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I was just spent a lot of time reading that

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<v Speaker 9>whole third quarterback rule the other day. I say, we

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<v Speaker 9>got a lot of detail on that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There was an email that was like here just for

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<v Speaker 3>those who are worried or confused about it, the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>sends out an entire media release on here's what the

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<v Speaker 3>rule is. There's a lot there initially, but you really

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<v Speaker 3>don't get it, and so here it is. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was some weekend reading, no doubt about it. Give

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<v Speaker 3>us a call eight eight eight, eight five five two

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<v Speaker 3>two nine seven. You can also hit up the text

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<v Speaker 3>line at eight one seven two nine zero three two

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<v Speaker 3>nine eight. We're going to talk to Cowboys Nation starting

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<v Speaker 3>in the next segment. Before we get to that segment,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about some good news.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about some positive things here.

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<v Speaker 3>In Week one, Cowboys lock up Terrence Steele on the

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<v Speaker 3>outside extension for the former undrafted right tackle who continues

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<v Speaker 3>to show that he is willing and able to grow

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<v Speaker 3>in this offense and coming off of an injury, he

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<v Speaker 3>looked good. He's still pushing in the right direction, and man,

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<v Speaker 3>he's been a cornerstone for the right side of that

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line for the last couple of years when he

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<v Speaker 3>is healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>But Nick, what did you think about the extension and

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<v Speaker 2>what ended up being the new contract for Terrence Steel?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the new contract five years, eighty six point two million.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe it has the potential of going up north

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<v Speaker 7>of ninety one million, so very much deserved.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody put out a tweet yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it was Todd Archer looking at the undrafted

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<v Speaker 7>free agents that the Cowboys have picked up and the

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<v Speaker 7>overall money that they've earned throughout their career, and if

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<v Speaker 7>Terrence Steele ends up earning all of that eighty six

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<v Speaker 7>point two million, he'll only be behind Tony Romo. So

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<v Speaker 7>really deserved for Terrence Steel. A really good story, undrafted

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<v Speaker 7>free agent that was thrown into the fire almost immediately

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<v Speaker 7>and survived and came out on the other side a

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<v Speaker 7>better player, and then you know, had a more adversity

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<v Speaker 7>had come over with this ACL injury coming off of

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<v Speaker 7>last year, did everything he possibly could and being diligent

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<v Speaker 7>in that recovery, working with a director of rehabilitation, Britt Brown,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know, I asked him, I was like, do

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<v Speaker 7>you think the recovery had something to do with, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>getting this contract done before the season, because you would

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<v Speaker 7>think an ACL injury, okay, let's see him back on

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<v Speaker 7>the field before we give him this deal, and they

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<v Speaker 7>gave it to him. I think that just speaks to

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<v Speaker 7>his work ethic, his diligence, and their confidence and what

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<v Speaker 7>he can be.

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<v Speaker 9>Still, he's super easy to root for. Actually, just a

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<v Speaker 9>great dude.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>Mike McCarthy talked about how he was here every single

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<v Speaker 9>day and it's always the same time and all that,

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<v Speaker 9>and when I aske him aboudy, he said it's because

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<v Speaker 9>he has a military background, so you know, his family

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<v Speaker 9>always was like that.

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<v Speaker 8>So and then just going from twenty twenty being an.

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<v Speaker 9>Undrafted guy to get to this place, it just like again,

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<v Speaker 9>it's just so easy to roof for him, and you

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<v Speaker 9>want it to go well because for someone like me

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<v Speaker 9>that you know, there's a lot of you're just covering

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<v Speaker 9>the team and you know, comparing to other things you've seen,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's very easy to bring up. The last

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<v Speaker 9>time that they've done this where they've signed a bunch

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<v Speaker 9>of guys for the season was twenty nineteen and none

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<v Speaker 9>of those went well.

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<v Speaker 8>So there's that part of you.

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<v Speaker 9>And when I mean that, I'm talking about the Zeke extension,

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<v Speaker 9>the Lyle Collins, and the Jalen Smith. I mean it

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<v Speaker 9>was all within like a couple of weeks that that

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<v Speaker 9>all those were done, and so that's the last time

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<v Speaker 9>where they did something like this. So I would think

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<v Speaker 9>just law of averages because of all those it didn't

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<v Speaker 9>work out. I would think that, you know, they deserve

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<v Speaker 9>some good fortune in this thing. But man, like I said,

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<v Speaker 9>I just I can't say enough like I root for

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<v Speaker 9>anybody getting the money, but there's just some there's just

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<v Speaker 9>some guys more than others that you're just like. Man,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm really happy that he was able to get this,

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<v Speaker 9>and I think for me a lot of his one.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a good dude then too.

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<v Speaker 9>Just the undrafted thing that's just always cool to see

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<v Speaker 9>that happen because of how much emphasis everyone always puts

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<v Speaker 9>on the draft and every year it gets more and more,

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<v Speaker 9>but it just shows you can still find some guys

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<v Speaker 9>that can be big pieces that you don't draft.

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<v Speaker 5>I like t Steey. I like him.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been joking around with him as of late about

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<v Speaker 4>every time I run into him, and to him, he

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<v Speaker 4>needs to go ahead and dread his hair up. So

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<v Speaker 4>this costs about one hundred and fifty dollars to do so,

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<v Speaker 4>So I think he has enough to get dreaded now.

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<v Speaker 5>But no, that'll be.

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<v Speaker 2>The next thing you tell him.

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<v Speaker 4>I always tell him that every time I see him. No,

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<v Speaker 4>So everything that you guys have touched on him. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a great dude. He's a great dude. He has a

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<v Speaker 4>work ethic out of this world. He gained my respect

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<v Speaker 4>last year at Camp Kyle when we were calling the

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<v Speaker 4>live practice against Denver and things got a little chippy.

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<v Speaker 4>There's Randy Gregory was starting things on the sideline and

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<v Speaker 4>really causing a stir. He wasn't even practicing, but he

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<v Speaker 4>was really kind of sparking up fights on the side

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<v Speaker 4>as Randon does. And Dak Prescott was kind of standing

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<v Speaker 4>by himself at one portion of the practice, and we

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<v Speaker 4>were sitting up on the hill and guys, I just

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think guys were just paying They weren't paying attention, right,

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<v Speaker 4>they were watching practice, but they didn't they didn't notice

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<v Speaker 4>that Dak was by himself. And the entire defense of

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<v Speaker 4>Denver was pretty much like surrounding Dak and talking mess

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<v Speaker 4>to him. Well, there was one gentleman who went over

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<v Speaker 4>there and was not having it, and it was T.

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<v Speaker 5>Steel.

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<v Speaker 4>And from that moment though, it's like it's like your

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<v Speaker 4>little brother, right, Like you feel the vibe that your

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<v Speaker 4>little brother needs some support, so you kind of look

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<v Speaker 4>over there and he went. He be lined over there

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<v Speaker 4>and pretty threw everybody out the way through everybody out

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<v Speaker 4>the club like Jesse jeff On fresh Prince of bel Air,

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<v Speaker 4>and got his quarterback back over to where he you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to safety, you know, in so many words, And from

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<v Speaker 4>that point forward, he had my respect because I knew

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<v Speaker 4>that he had that dog in. As nice of a

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<v Speaker 4>guy as he is, you know, he's kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>gentle giant walking around, real soft spoken, but when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes down to it, he got that dog in and

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<v Speaker 4>that there's differences.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>You're talking about Deon Sanders.

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<v Speaker 4>His team went in this past weekend and the patches

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<v Speaker 4>that they have on their chest that d for dog

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<v Speaker 4>that needs to go to T.

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<v Speaker 5>Steel because he is one of the guys on his team.

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<v Speaker 9>It was funny too, as we were talking to him

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<v Speaker 9>yesterday for about six or seven minutes outside the locker room,

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<v Speaker 9>just seeing guys that would walk by and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>just yelling stuff like Michael Gallup, Zach Martin, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>yelling out calling him big money, and you just tell like,

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<v Speaker 9>everyone's really happy for him because he obviously puts the

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<v Speaker 9>work in and no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>That was the best way to describe it.

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<v Speaker 5>He is.

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<v Speaker 9>He does come off as the gentle giant that is,

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<v Speaker 9>that's the perfect way to describe him, but then on

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<v Speaker 9>Sundays that's certainly not who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the early defining moments for the

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<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy era was in Washington back in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>when Andy Dalton got hit as he was going down

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<v Speaker 3>on the slide and nobody was there to back them up.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody really was there, and that was the early indication of, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what does this team really have?

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<v Speaker 2>There's something going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a culture problem to a certain extent at that

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<v Speaker 3>point in the season, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Things weren't going well at that point either.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, of course, Dak Prescott goes down, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the rotation rotating door at quarterback, and then who was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first guys to step up after that

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<v Speaker 3>learning moment. There were a couple guys, but Terrence Steel

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<v Speaker 3>was in that mix as a rookie, as an undrafted rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>He was in that mix as somebody that stepped up

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly. Maybe not on that specific play, but once

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<v Speaker 3>he saw it and he said, Okay, next time, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It never gonna happen again.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's been there, and so I'm glad you brought

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<v Speaker 3>up the Denver story because that's certainly something that's stuck

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind as well. And I think it all

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<v Speaker 3>stems back from that initial moment when he was a

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<v Speaker 3>rookie he was learning from those guys and said, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna happen in my quarterback. Not gonna happened to

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<v Speaker 3>my guys ever again. And now it won't for for

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<v Speaker 3>quite some time because he's locked up for the next

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<v Speaker 3>five years. So happy for Tea, still happy for his

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<v Speaker 3>work ethic and everything he's earned to this point.

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<v Speaker 5>And a guaranteed money.

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<v Speaker 2>We got fifty he got some guarantees.

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<v Speaker 9>I will say, though, even with that, I know you

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<v Speaker 9>look at these numbers and you're just like, man, it's

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of money. But if he continues to ascend

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<v Speaker 9>and play at the level that he's been on, you'll

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<v Speaker 9>look back on that contract and it'll be like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 9>that's a that's a sargain. Yeah, nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we give it up for the front office right now?

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about how aggressive the front office has been.

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<v Speaker 4>They just continue to be aggressive and I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about them last week saying I hope they

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<v Speaker 4>keep that energy. Sure right, and they have kept that energy,

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<v Speaker 4>and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Hope they just keep the foot to the pedal.

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<v Speaker 2>I want him to sign CD, and it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>that'll happen.

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<v Speaker 5>I honestly and not obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have any insight up there, but let me

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<v Speaker 4>put that out there before I make the statement. I

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<v Speaker 4>have a feeling that it is a race right now

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<v Speaker 4>to try to get CD done before Justin Jeffers I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Believe that Justin Jefferson said he needs that deal done

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<v Speaker 4>before the season kicks off.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Cee, do you got time today? Can you make

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<v Speaker 2>it up to the poop three here at the Starhart

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Where something may happen before weeks in.

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<v Speaker 7>They did ask him on the fan today, Jerry Jones.

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<v Speaker 7>They said, you know, once the season starts, does that

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<v Speaker 7>kind of close off negotiations. You just want to focus

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<v Speaker 7>on the season. He said, absolutely anytime we can get

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<v Speaker 7>that deal done, so it could happen at any point,

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<v Speaker 7>and he was referring to both dak An Cid.

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<v Speaker 9>Either for Terren Steele and Zach Martin getting those things

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<v Speaker 9>taken care of, Like just look at the depth behind them,

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<v Speaker 9>Like to me that you just you have to you

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<v Speaker 9>look at what else is there. It's not like you

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<v Speaker 9>have a couple of guys you're just like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 9>we can we can they can hold out if they want,

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<v Speaker 9>or we can possibly go that.

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<v Speaker 8>No, those are so important.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, even Jerry saying this morning on the radio

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<v Speaker 9>about how you know, you know, he talked about how

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<v Speaker 9>much he liked the depth and how much he likes

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<v Speaker 9>his the current roster, but then he brought up himself

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<v Speaker 9>the offensive line depth as in that would be the

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<v Speaker 9>only concerned But then he points out, well, yeah, well

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<v Speaker 9>what NFL team doesn't have that right now? And so

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<v Speaker 9>that's the other part of the Terran Steel, the Zach

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<v Speaker 9>Martin thing. It's like not just the depth here, it's

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<v Speaker 9>how many quality offensive linemen can you get, like even

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<v Speaker 9>in the entire league. And that's one of those spots,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, it just it just seems like it's becoming

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<v Speaker 9>harder and harder to project exactly what's going to carry

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<v Speaker 9>over from the college game to the pro game, to

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<v Speaker 9>the point where you obviously see a lot of swings

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<v Speaker 9>and misses in the first round. Not here and there's

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<v Speaker 9>nothing they've done better than draft first round offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 9>of course. But the other part is then also there's

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<v Speaker 9>a part of me that when I hear the Terran

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<v Speaker 9>Steel deal, the first thing I think of is just like,

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<v Speaker 9>how does this guy go undrafted? Yeah, so there still

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<v Speaker 9>has to be a part of where there's still some

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<v Speaker 9>things that you just don't quite know for sure that

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<v Speaker 9>there's it's tough to predict, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he slipped through the cracks.

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<v Speaker 3>Credit to the front office for getting him done and

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<v Speaker 3>getting him in the building, and then of course seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the way that he's grown and developed since then.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start things off with Brian in Iowa. Brian, you're

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<v Speaker 3>back on Talking Cowboys. How's it going, my friend?

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<v Speaker 15>Hey, it's going really good. How how are you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing doing great? What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 13>Well?

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<v Speaker 15>I got a few things. I got one thing about

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<v Speaker 15>Dak and then another thing about fifty cents. First of all,

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<v Speaker 15>with Dak, I feel Dak has a great season and

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<v Speaker 15>he is in the MVP running like I think he

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<v Speaker 15>kind of was in twenty twenties before the Anchel season

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<v Speaker 15>with he was saying the pastum record, I believe I

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<v Speaker 15>think you can get back to that form with this

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<v Speaker 15>offense scheme and the players around him, and with the

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<v Speaker 15>defense I made total sex. Do you think the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 15>will get with Michael Parsons and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 15>defense and you guys have a great day And thank

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<v Speaker 15>you for having me out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, Brian appreciate the call. As always, John,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll start with you on the Dak Prescott question. Where

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<v Speaker 3>do you think the ceiling is for Dak? Is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of what it sounded like Brian was talking about because

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<v Speaker 3>prior to Week six in twenty twenty one and he

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<v Speaker 3>calf injury that he sustained on that final pass against

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots, he was the MVP front runner and it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to argue at that point statistically, play wise, win wise,

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<v Speaker 3>he was there. Do you think he can get back

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<v Speaker 3>to that because we haven't necessarily seen it.

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<v Speaker 9>Since he can, I don't think that they really need

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<v Speaker 9>him to though. And the reason I say that is

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<v Speaker 9>because the way this season starts is reminded me. Now

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<v Speaker 9>these are not apples to apples, but it reminds me

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<v Speaker 9>a little bit of twenty fourteen because there was a

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<v Speaker 9>little bit of that, you know, we're gonna take some

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<v Speaker 9>more off Tony Romo's plate.

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<v Speaker 8>We're gonna have DeMarco Murray.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, be kind of the focal back, and it

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<v Speaker 9>just changed a little bit about the offense. And just

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<v Speaker 9>before that, leading up to you felt like there was

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<v Speaker 9>a period of time there where Tony had to play

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<v Speaker 9>really well and win these games, and DeMarco kind of

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<v Speaker 9>took something off of his plate and it ended up

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<v Speaker 9>leading one of Tony's, if not Tony's best seasons.

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<v Speaker 8>And so with this team, I think the running game

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<v Speaker 8>will be good.

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<v Speaker 9>I do not think it'll be DeMarco Murray twenty fourteen good.

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<v Speaker 9>But it's the defense now. So because of how loaded

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<v Speaker 9>this defense is, he doesn't have to be that guy

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<v Speaker 9>that he was, you know, back then, throwing as much

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<v Speaker 9>as he was. And I do think that there there

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<v Speaker 9>could be some hiccups early in the season, just with

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 9>like a new offense in that. But the thing I

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 9>keep going back to, and I know it's it's a

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 9>way spot you know in the past, and I know

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 9>it's a different team, but man, you just look at

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 9>those numbers that Brett Favre put up the year before

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 9>Mike McCarthy took over in Green Bay. I mean, we're

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 9>beaten down fifteen interceptions, like it's the worst thing we've

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 9>ever heard. Brett Favre through twenty nine the year before

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 9>Mike McCarthy became head coach, and then it cut it

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 9>down McCarthy's first year, I believe it was around fifteen,

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 9>and then the second year got it down to twelve.

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 8>And that's Brett Farr, who.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 9>You know, is you know, have one of the most

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 9>talented arms that's ever been in the game, and it's

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 9>probably attempted more bad throws than anybody ever has in

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 9>the game, just because of his ability and for him

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 9>to be able to as a first time head coach

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 9>be able to get a guy like Brett Farv that

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 9>was established as he was at that point, to you know,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.959
<v Speaker 9>be more you know, I wouldn't say conservative, but just

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 9>be taking care of the ball better. That to me,

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 9>it's like, did Tony need to put up the best

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 9>numbers ever to say twenty fourteen might be his best season? No,

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 9>But the trickle down was that if everything else fell

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 9>into place, he ended up having that And I believe

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 9>if Dak takes care of the ball, everything else falls

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 9>into place, they win more games, and if the Cowboys

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 9>are winning games, he's going to be in all those conversations.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 9>I mean that's how it is with I mean, you

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 9>can talk about it in college football with the Heisman Trophy,

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 9>you know, at the quarterback position is the same way

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 9>in the NFL. If your team is rolling, your quarterback

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 9>is going to be in that conversation.

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 7>Well said, yeah, I think we've talked about it a

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 7>lot about how this offense is constructed around Dak. It's

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 7>put into quote unquote Dak's language. Does that lead to

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 7>an MVP conversation? I lean no, Just because of what

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 7>you said, they're gonna have to lean on the running game.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.719
<v Speaker 7>They're gonna have to lean on the defense to help

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 7>them out in some areas as well. So you just

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 7>need Dak to be Dak. You don't need Dak to

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 7>be MVP, you know. I think if they can, if

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 7>they can work that around, then it's a successful season.

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 7>The only think everyone would rather have a successful season

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 7>than a Dak MVP season.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, the.

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 9>Only thing I was going to add on that though,

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 9>on the MVP thing, X coming off of arguably his

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 9>worst season, because of the turnovers. He's I feel better

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 9>about him being in the MVP conversation this year than

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 9>I would have last season at this time about Jalen Hurts.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 8>So things go up and down real fast in this league.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 9>Nobody expected Jalen Hurts to have that season. Maybe Jalen

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 9>Hurts did, maybe there's some people in Philadelphia's front office,

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 9>maybe Nick Sirianni did, But most people did not think

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 9>like he was going to take it to that level.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 9>It's not like that was his second season or we

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 9>just hadn't had there was a decent sample size on him,

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 9>and obviously there was a lot of good pieces around him.

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 9>But he took his game to another level that I

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 9>don't think most people were expecting. So you just you

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 9>don't really know for well when he.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Did so by being efficient, Yeah, I mean that was

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 3>the case with Jalen Hurts, and now that's what you're

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 3>asking Dak to be.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>You're not asking Dak to be over the top. You're

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>asking him to.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Be efficient all the way through and making things simple

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>on him so that way he can lead things like

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurts did.

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I think you're muted.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 6>I think you're knee it's going to be John next

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 6>episode there you go to.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 8>Pull your mic over.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I'm growing. Yeah, I think you guys hit it.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean this everybody's expectations as DAK are. Everybody's looking

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 4>for the big plays. I feel like in the fan

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 4>fan world, that's not what coach McCarthy's looking for. Coach

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 4>McCarthy's looking for that high efficiency, high probability of completion rate,

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 4>and that's what he's looking for. He doesn't care if

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, fourteen yards or five yards. He wants

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 4>it manageable in terms of his his ability to deliver

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 4>a solid, accurate ball. You're gonna still have your deep shots,

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 4>but those deep shots are gonna come off a play action.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 4>So it's gonna be a very simplified chill offense. And

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 4>to you guys's point, you know, with a successful team

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 4>comes a successful MVP running for most quarterbacks, most teams,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 4>it's just a quarterback league. But this is not going

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 4>to be forty passes a game, DOC, So people just

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 4>need to get that out of their hisads.

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I don't think you should want that either. No, Like,

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 9>if you look at those box scores at the end

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 9>of the game, if you missed the game by some chance.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 9>I don't think you really want to see a bunch

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 9>of those games like that, because before you know the

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 9>the ankle injury, there were a lot of games like

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 9>that where he was playing like that and you really

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 9>felt like, well, if he doesn't play like this, they're

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 9>not going to win.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 8>Well, he doesn't have to play like that now.

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think that's what you want, like you said,

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 3>And if it is that sort of forty passes, pass attempts,

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>you want it to be short completions. Maybe it's because

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 3>you're methodical on offense. If the box score does end

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 3>up ballooning like that, you want it to be efficient

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 3>work on the offense as opposed to just let's just

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>throw the ball to throw the ball.

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to Jim in passive.

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 8>Don't want to get this sect total thing.

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh I forgot about that. We'll get Jim first. Let's

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>get Jim out of the way.

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 12>Jim.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:40.959
<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 16>Good morning, guys?

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 5>How are you great?

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 2>How are you good?

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 16>All right? I want to play a game. If Parsons,

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 16>Smith and o'diggy Zua and Lawrence are you're starting four

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 16>on the D line. Huh, who are your next four?

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 16>And are those next four better than any of the

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 16>d lines in the league.

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 8>That's really tough.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I like to know appreciate the call. Jim as always.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 9>One of our national NFL writers at the Athletic Robert

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 9>Mays goes to a bunch of different training camps, and

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 9>so when he came to the Cowboys camp, we always

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 9>do like a pod, and I think he came the

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 9>second week and when we talked about the defensive ends,

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 9>he said he thinks that they have the best defensive

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 9>end rotation in the entire league. And I lean on

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 9>him a lot more because I mean, I just most

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 9>of my time is dedicated to following this team. I

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 9>just wouldn't feel comfortable sitting there and saying then again,

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 9>there's a lot of people nationally that love to talk

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 9>about that stuff, and I don't think that they ever

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 9>really seen anything either, but call him out, John. It

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 9>would be just tough for me to sit there and

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 9>definitively say, no, this is the best I will say.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 9>I don't think Mazzie Smith is in the ones there.

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 9>I would have him with the twos. I think Miss

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 9>Hankins and O'deiggie Zoo or your two starting defensive tackles

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 9>with Lawrence Parsons on the outside, and then your twos

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 9>in the middle would be Mazzi and Neville Gallimore. Now

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 9>this is where it gets interesting, because I would I

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 9>would have Sam Williams in there because I think he's

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 9>got the highest upside. But Dorince Armstrong is there, Dante Fowler, like,

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 9>those are guys that have proven it more. But but

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 9>Sam Williams for me, is the wild card. Because Sam

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 9>Williams could be five sacks, Sam Williams could be twelve sacks,

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 9>and either way, I would be like, yeah, I can

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 9>kind of see that happening, you know, Yeah, So.

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:22.919
<v Speaker 2>I think I would.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I would go the same way with the starters d

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Lall Hankins right now, Osa Parsons, and then then second level.

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 2>And I think this goes to Jim's point.

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 3>You go to the second level, and then you've got

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Mazzie Smith, who of course is the first round defensive tackle,

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Sam Williams, who's the second round defensive tackle, Nevill Callimore,

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 3>who's a third round defensive tackle. I said defensive tackle,

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean ed rusher for Sam Williams, But you know

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Dorren's Armstrong there as well.

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I think, man, that's tough between Dorance Armstrong and Dante Fowler.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 3>That's where I kind of have this this hold up

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 3>because I think I'm there with you. I think Sam

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Williams is that other edg Rusher. What do you think, Isaiah?

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 5>They're interchangeable, I really do.

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 2>But that's not the game, I know. But it depends

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 2>on the situations the game.

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 5>It depends on the situation. Man.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 4>If I'm if I'm just simply just trying to get

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 4>back there for sacks, then yeah, Sam Williams. If I

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 4>if it's a third in medium, I'm probably using doorrans.

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 8>I'm just looking at these sac numbers are so twenty.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean Dallas had fifty four last year, correct, Yes,

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>they did.

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 5>Philly had the most. Philly has seventy.

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 8>Believe Yeah, I know you're right on.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 9>It's just funny because I went back the last few

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 9>years and then I go to twenty twenty twenty and

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 9>twenty thirty one sacks Cowboys had.

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 9>And you know what' funny about last year though, too,

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 9>is like I know, Philly clearly had the most, Like

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 9>you said, seventy, there was there was a time, like

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 9>first half of the season where like I mean, they were

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 9>neck and neck with the Cowboys and then Philly pulled

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 9>the way towards the back end. So for me, there's

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 9>no reason they shouldn't be in that conversation all the

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 9>way to the end of the season. But that also

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 9>brings up a point that I'm just interested to see,

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 9>like how do they do on that second half of

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 9>the season. There were times where Micah Parsons wasn't as

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 9>effective getting after the quarterback a little bit later in

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 9>the season. It was part of the reason in this

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 9>obviose season, im about bulking up a little bit more

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 9>for that, you know, that stretch run and being a

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 9>little bit healthier then.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 8>So that's to me where it's got to be.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 9>And then to how Nick points out, you know the

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 9>way that this schedule sets up, you know it's a

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 9>lot of running backs early, a lot more passing later.

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 9>A lot more passing would lead to more sacks, So

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 9>maybe that happens in the second half.

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 8>That's the key.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 5>This is my prediction.

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 4>If Dallas can be in the top fifteen in rush defense,

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 4>they will lead the league in sacks.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Like that, okay, because they go hand in hand, absolutely,

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I like that. I like it as well, and I

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 3>think I agree with you. I think it goes back

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 3>to what we talked about right at the jump too,

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:42.919
<v Speaker 3>of having this secondary affect the pass rush and.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Having this secondary.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 3>This is a better secondary than Dallas has had in

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 3>quite some time.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 5>This is the best secondary in the league.

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not ready in the conversa, but it's in

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>the conversation, which is saying something because they have never

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 3>been in the conversation.

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 7>It's the best cornerback duo in the league. I'm ready

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 7>to say that. I think I'm ready to say.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Let me see the regular season. Stefan Gilmour.

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 3>First, I love training camp pipe as much as anybody,

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 3>but let's let me see it first.

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>For that, I think they're really really good, don't get

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 2>me wrong.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 3>And they're in the conversation even if they aren't the

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 3>answer to that conversation. But with that secondary, I think

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 3>it opens up the possibilities. Look at Philadelphia, the reason

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<v Speaker 3>why they had seventy sacks is because they had depth

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<v Speaker 3>on the defensive line and they had depth in the secondary.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Dallas had depth on the defensive line, they didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>have any depth in the secondary, especially in the back

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<v Speaker 3>half of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever did Philadelphia did end up pulling away.

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<v Speaker 3>So with that being said, seventy sacks for Philly last year,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty four for Dallas. Let's go back to Brian's question,

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<v Speaker 3>how many sacks Nick, do you think the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 7>I think with the addition of Stefan Gilmore, because I've

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 7>seen regular season Stefan Gilmore, I know what he can

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<v Speaker 7>bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think they.

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<v Speaker 6>Can get to sixty sixty. I think they can get

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<v Speaker 6>to sixty if everyone stays healthy. That's key, that's low.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding, I don't know. I'd probably say like under sixty.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's a healthy over under.

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<v Speaker 3>At sixty, I would say over over, yeah, over by

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. I'd say sixty three if everybody stays healthy.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take over because I think they're

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<v Speaker 9>good enough to average for a game that would be

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<v Speaker 9>sixty eight. And I did that in my calculator. There's

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<v Speaker 9>no chance, no chance to have that in my head.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 9>I'm completed when it comes to math. So that was

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<v Speaker 9>all the calculator, and so that puts Philly last year

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<v Speaker 9>a little over for a game. I think this team

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<v Speaker 9>is capable of doing for a game. But a big

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<v Speaker 9>part of that will be Michael Parsons. He's had thirteen

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<v Speaker 9>I think, and then thirteen and a half. I think

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 9>he's you know, I think he's poised too, especially if

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<v Speaker 9>he can keep it going on the back half of

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.760
<v Speaker 9>the season. He could be a sixteen seventeen eighteen SAT guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Could he get if he keeps the train move and

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<v Speaker 3>the way that he did in the first two thirds

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<v Speaker 3>of the season last year, Could.

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 2>He get to twenty? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>If that happened though, to me, a key piece and

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 9>that would be just they'd have to have outstanding health

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 9>on defense because if that happens, then you know, there's

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 9>so many other guys that will wear on the defense

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 9>that he's I feel like to get to twenty. And

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 9>I might be I might not be talking factually here,

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<v Speaker 9>so you guys can call me out if you want,

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<v Speaker 9>But I find it hard to believe you get to

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<v Speaker 9>twenty sacks that they're all just like twenty just hard earned.

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<v Speaker 8>I just got every bit of that.

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 9>Like, there's got to be some guineas that are there's

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 9>some layups where you're just like, hey, I've bet it

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 9>from this. Also, when I'm saying that, I'm thinking significantly

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 9>it's on one play and it's that that the Brett

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<v Speaker 9>fire going down with Michael Strahan got the record.

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 8>Michael Strahan obviously deserves.

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 9>I mean, he's outstanding, but I just always think of

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 9>that play like we're usually no, nope, you got it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Have fun, have fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, okay.

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>What do you think over under sixty sacks for the

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys defense? Should everybody stay healthy?

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>That's a big key in this.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if they can do, if they have a solid

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 4>rush defense, they'll hit sixty two. That's my number, sixty two.

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So lots of high expectations for the defense, as you

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<v Speaker 3>would anticipate going into the year. But I think if

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<v Speaker 3>they get less than sixty, either health is a is

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 3>a big factor in it, or it's just a lack.

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<v Speaker 9>Of execution because the town you say, when you said

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<v Speaker 9>about the running, that's because you feel like if they

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<v Speaker 9>can stop the run, then teams will just be forced

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 9>to throw.

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 8>You have more opportunities.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so that's one portion of it, right, But also

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 4>you have to go to the other side of the

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 4>ball and the offense. Offense has to be able to

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 4>put up points. So the offense is dragging and they're

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 4>not putting up points effectively. Right now, We're not looking

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 4>for this to be killing Moore sky at out type offense, right,

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 4>but they need to be able to have a fourteen

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 4>point lead in order to take teams.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 5>Out of their game plan. Yeah.

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 4>Right, if you have a ten fourteen point lead, now

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 4>you could start taking teams out of their game plan.

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 4>As long as teams can remain in their game plan,

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 4>then my approach to this defense is running the ball.

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>When he says that the game, I always think of

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 9>his last year against Minnesota, Like how Mike on that

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 9>first series just set the tone and he was coming

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 9>on that backside and sacked Cousins And I'll just always

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 9>remember it because I love at and T Stadium, But

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.760
<v Speaker 9>my favorite thing about Minnesota is an open press box,

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.879
<v Speaker 9>and just to be able to actually hear all that sound,

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 9>it was just wild because I'll never forget how Micah

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 9>was coming off the backside and Cousins doesn't see him,

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 9>but you can just hear the crowd like wanting to

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 9>yell to him, like he's closing in like you're not

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 9>gonna make this. It was such a tone center for

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:05.479
<v Speaker 9>the rest of that game. And that's like the most

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 9>complete game I've seen, and a lot of it has

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 9>to do with exactly what you said. It just completely

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 9>because that's the thing a lot of people hate on

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 9>Kirk Cousins and Minnesota was rolling at that time, and

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<v Speaker 9>the way that they just from the very beginning defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight and one, right, I think so, yeah.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they had bet coming off that game when they

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 9>beat the Bills. Yeah that you know that.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>That was a wild game all the time.

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, like they were rolling.

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 9>So it's not like it's this, oh well, I just

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 9>know a lot of Cowboys fans feel like, well they

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 9>always beat the Vikings, but it's like, no, they've beaten

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:34.879
<v Speaker 9>some good vikings. But that game, when you said, that's

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 9>the first one I thought of, because that changed up everything.

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<v Speaker 8>The way they said the tone early with that, I

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<v Speaker 8>really did.

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<v Speaker 3>In that early segment, we were talking about offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>He uh, he wanted to call you out.

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<v Speaker 3>He texted into the Cowboys text line eight one seven

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<v Speaker 3>two nine zero three two nine eight. He said, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand how you are so concerned with potentially losing

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<v Speaker 3>a guard, but say you're okay with losing a tackle

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<v Speaker 3>when it requires moving a guard.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you were trying to say. I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to get a chance to defend yourself here. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not okay with losing anybody on that offensive.

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<v Speaker 5>Line, right? No, not okay at all?

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<v Speaker 4>And obviously what I was getting at, Yes, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to still rotate a new guard in if you lose

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<v Speaker 4>a tackle. However, Okay, losing a tackle at least you

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<v Speaker 4>have a formidable backup that you feel confident about.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I was getting at.

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<v Speaker 4>The guard position solely does not have a strong suitor

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<v Speaker 4>that you feel confident about on this roster, regardless if

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 4>that means if you lost a tackle, you gotta bump

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<v Speaker 4>one in, it doesn't matter. I don't care how you

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 4>get to it. You don't feel good about your gardens.

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<v Speaker 4>And we know that the front office knows that I

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<v Speaker 4>was assumed that they were working on that. I assume

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 4>that this probably scares the crap out of them. And

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<v Speaker 4>this is kind of a he little hello, hello, little moment,

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<v Speaker 4>kay lit little Yeah. Anyways, So yeah, so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>address that you just if you have to rotate that

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 4>guard position at all, it's a bad situation for the

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<v Speaker 4>Dallas Cowboys currently where the development exists for their backups.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I always wonder how much PTSD is with Cowboys fans

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 9>from that Chaz Green Adrian Claiborne game.

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<v Speaker 8>I know I think about that significantly.

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 9>Just because it was so it just stood out so

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 9>much that I feel like anytime there's no offensive line

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 9>injury and you think about, like to your point when

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 9>you were thinking, oh, when you mentioned the backup guards.

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 9>I'm thinking, okay, who is it? Like, who would I feel?

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm thinking TJ Bass right now. But there's a

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 9>there's a part of you when you're thinking about it,

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 9>and of course that's guard and Chans.

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<v Speaker 8>Green was playing on the outside.

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 9>But it just is one of those things where you're

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 9>just like you just start fearing like, well then everything's

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 9>going to fall apart where I don't know, like I

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<v Speaker 9>really I I have a lot of confidence in Mike

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 9>McCarthy when there's chaos, like he's done some he's really

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 9>impressed me over the last couple of years, like whether

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.840
<v Speaker 9>it be that going down or in some situations where.

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<v Speaker 5>He's handles some situations.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so if there were to be without

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:30.439
<v Speaker 8>he's had plenty of them too.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Like I give him a lot of credit for

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 9>his ability in those in those type of situations that

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 9>he'll have a plan for for this type of thing.

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<v Speaker 9>And the other thing is when you have a really

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 9>experienced head coach like that, well we'll sit here and

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 9>talk about this and fans will listen to this and

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 9>you know, be worried about there's not going to be

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 9>much that he hasn't seen. You know, I thought that

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 9>was funny Estuary when he was talking about the Kicker,

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<v Speaker 9>when he was asked about Kicker and he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 9>just to be honest, I mean, I haven't had like

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<v Speaker 9>a sold you know, the guy every single year. I

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<v Speaker 9>mean every year. It's been somebody different, you know, for

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<v Speaker 9>the last three years.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's one.

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<v Speaker 9>That's one of those things with the experien So I'm

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<v Speaker 9>sure he's ready to roll with a game plan that

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<v Speaker 9>will compliment if it is a TJ.

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<v Speaker 8>Bass or whoever.

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<v Speaker 15>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously it's gonna limit things.

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<v Speaker 9>It's not gonna be the same because I think you're

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<v Speaker 9>gonna have to take some stuff off the table. But

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<v Speaker 9>I have a lot of confidence that he would come

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<v Speaker 9>up with a good game plan.

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<v Speaker 3>Now with Tyler Smith dealing with this hamstring again, the

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys believe it's minor. They're taking a precautionary look at

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<v Speaker 3>it with the MRI today. But Nick, when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the depth chart, you said something in a moment

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<v Speaker 3>ago that kind of piqued my interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Would TJ. Bass be your number one option?

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<v Speaker 3>Because they've only got three guys offensive lineman wise that

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<v Speaker 3>are behind the starters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true mydoga who of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Is banged up in his own right as he left

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<v Speaker 3>that training camp practice late in Oxnard. Awesome Richards, the

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 3>fifth round rookie out of North Carolina, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>undrafted rookie TJ Bass jumping in, and we just talked

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<v Speaker 3>about Terrence Steele as an undrafted free agent who was

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<v Speaker 3>thrown into the fire early and continued to work to

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<v Speaker 3>where he is now. I'm not saying that's the ideal situation,

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<v Speaker 3>but do you feel comfortable if Tyler Smith is unable

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<v Speaker 3>to go on Sunday Night that TJ Bass could fill

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<v Speaker 3>that void.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna say no, just because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 7>throw an undrafted rookie into the fire like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna give a quick case for each of those three.

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<v Speaker 2>Though.

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<v Speaker 6>Chumay Dooga, I feel like has more of a guard build.

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<v Speaker 7>He's got that wide set. I don't feel like he's

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<v Speaker 7>athletic enough to be at tackle. I want to put

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<v Speaker 7>him in that phone booth and get him working with

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<v Speaker 7>that wide, that white set, because he's got really good hands,

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<v Speaker 7>So I want to put him there and see what

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<v Speaker 7>that looks like and correct me if I'm wrong. But

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<v Speaker 7>whenever Tyler Smith went out yesterday. I know we only

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<v Speaker 7>had like two or three minutes, but I believe.

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<v Speaker 6>It was Chuma that rotated in.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't see, Okay, I believe it was, but it

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<v Speaker 9>was like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't Dentton, Like it was so far away from

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<v Speaker 6>telling you.

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<v Speaker 9>That has always been the thing going back to Valley Ranch,

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<v Speaker 9>as the head coach is like always put the offensive

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<v Speaker 9>line is far away.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean even look at training camp, they always do

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<v Speaker 8>it like this's got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in the far end where nobody can see.

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<v Speaker 9>There was there was a time and during one of

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<v Speaker 9>the walkthroughs, during one of the it was the second

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<v Speaker 9>from last week of practice, where they worked out kind

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<v Speaker 9>of in front of where we were, and I just

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 9>thought it was funny because I remember I went over

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<v Speaker 9>there and took a picture.

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<v Speaker 8>You went over there, took a picture.

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 9>Patrick Walker ever took a picture just because it was

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<v Speaker 9>like it was just the offensive line working out. But

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<v Speaker 9>it's like they never work out anywhere near where anybody's at,

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<v Speaker 9>like media wise, they always make sure that they're they're

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<v Speaker 9>way far away.

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<v Speaker 8>And it has to know by design, it has to.

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<v Speaker 6>Be it has to be really quick to finish up

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<v Speaker 6>those three. TJ. Bass I really love what he's put together.

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<v Speaker 7>He had one of the best pass block and run

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<v Speaker 7>blocking grades in preseason, but granted it was preseason. I

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<v Speaker 7>really want to give him time because if you cheat

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 7>his process, that's that's going to be unfortunate. He has

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<v Speaker 7>a ton of experience at left guard. He's coming in

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<v Speaker 7>with that experience at left guard. They've worked him at

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<v Speaker 7>right guard just to kind of get him used to

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<v Speaker 7>having both sides, and if he needs to kind of

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<v Speaker 7>fill in both sides, they have that. But he comes

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<v Speaker 7>in with a ton of experience from Oregon at left guard.

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<v Speaker 7>And then don't forget about Austin Richard's got a ton

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<v Speaker 7>of work at left guard during training camp. They want

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<v Speaker 7>to be able to use him at either left tackle.

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<v Speaker 6>Or left guard. That's another guy I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>throw into the fire that early.

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<v Speaker 7>So if it comes a situation where if Tyler Smith

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<v Speaker 7>cannot play on Sunday night, I think shootway Dooga is

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<v Speaker 7>probably your best off.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the veteran of the group.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel comfortable about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think that's the conversation is we don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel comfortable about anything if any one of those top

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<v Speaker 3>five guys go down, but there has to be some

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 3>sort of backup plan, and it appears that those at

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<v Speaker 3>least would be the early.

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<v Speaker 2>Indications of those backup plans.

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<v Speaker 8>But and he should be familiar with that stadium, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's played there a couple times before. Right yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right?

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<v Speaker 3>That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys. These

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<v Speaker 5>We starts little strategy tomorrow, don't we.

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<v Speaker 2>We start talking a little strategy tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>We will review, we will preview the Cowboys defense versus

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Giants offense tomorrow. So how can that

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<v Speaker 3>stacked defensive front take down Danny Dimes and the Cowboys

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 3>and the excuse me in the Giants offense, and then

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<v Speaker 3>on Thursday we'll flip it to the offense talk about

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 3>how the Cowboys can have some success on that side

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<v Speaker 3>of the ball, but for Chris Beam in the back,

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah Standback, John Machoda, Nick Harris, and Kyle Yoman saying

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