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Speaker 3: here along for the ride throughout the twenty twenty three season. Gentlemen,
Speaker 3: it's good to be back, and I mean we've been back.
Speaker 3: We got back seeing freaking here.
Speaker 5: Kyle.
Speaker 2: It's just different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels different in here, and there's a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff to talk about, both uphand both down for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, at least over the last weekend and week
Speaker 3: of work. But wow, I mean, hey, week ones here.
Speaker 3: You excited, Nick? This is your first go at it too?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely excited.
Speaker 7: Not only is it my first go at it, but
Speaker 7: you know, I feel pretty good about where this team
Speaker 7: is at and then what it can accomplish. I'm really
Speaker 7: excited about getting this going for sure.
Speaker 2: John, you ready to get back to the grind of things. Yeah.
Speaker 8: For me, it's all about the offense.
Speaker 9: Just because we didn't get to see it in any
Speaker 9: of the preseason games. You didn't get to see him
Speaker 9: practice against another team, so there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 9: unpredictable to it that I'm really excited about, just because
Speaker 9: we know this is one of the best teams in
Speaker 9: the NFC. But it's always like, Okay, well you fell
Speaker 9: short in the playoffs, how do you take that next step?
Speaker 9: What is going to be the thing that gets you
Speaker 9: to the next level? And it very well could be
Speaker 9: their defense And we can look back on this and
Speaker 9: be like it was kind of overblown talking all about
Speaker 9: the offense. Team's about the defense now whatever, But there's
Speaker 9: just so much that I want to see from the
Speaker 9: offense that that remains my number one thing that has
Speaker 9: got me probably more excited for the start of this
Speaker 9: season than any other since I've covered the team.
Speaker 3: So you're excited about the potential there on offense, and
Speaker 3: I think the identity to this team, Isaiah, what would
Speaker 3: you say the identity is?
Speaker 5: Is it just defense, it's just.
Speaker 2: All defense, there's no real specific to it.
Speaker 3: Or is it pass rush or levels or what would
Speaker 3: you I want you to get specific with.
Speaker 5: How just get detailed.
Speaker 2: You want to get gritty, what's weak one? No more generalities.
Speaker 4: I think teams fear because that's what I think that
Speaker 4: we need to lean towards. We start talking about what
Speaker 4: the makeup of this team is. Teams fear the pass rush.
Speaker 4: When you think of the Dallas Cowboys, you fear their
Speaker 4: pass rush, And I think that's the first thing you
Speaker 4: need to go to whenever you face an opponent.
Speaker 5: What do we fear?
Speaker 4: Right, that's the first thing we need to attack, right,
Speaker 4: We need to we need to find a solution for that,
Speaker 4: and then we can start working all way through everything else.
Speaker 4: But if you don't have a solution for Dallas's pass rush,
Speaker 4: you don't see.
Speaker 9: Any chance, especially with what they added on the back
Speaker 9: end with Gilmour, another year for Bland, another year for Diggs,
Speaker 9: another year for that secondary to be together.
Speaker 8: It just it all plays into like they just they would.
Speaker 9: Love for teams to just sit back and have to
Speaker 9: throw all day, you know, And so obviously teams aren't
Speaker 9: gonna do that. I expect the Giants to come out
Speaker 9: and try and run the ball and try and win
Speaker 9: that way. And obviously that's why you go out and
Speaker 9: draft a Massie Smith and you resigned Jonathan Hankins. So
Speaker 9: that'll be the key, is to stop the run because
Speaker 9: if they do that, everything else to take care of itself.
Speaker 3: It kind of goes back to what we've talked about
Speaker 3: previously on this show, both last year and then through
Speaker 3: the off season, is if you give this pass rush
Speaker 3: another half second.
Speaker 2: The numbers could explode. I mean, and that's it. That's
Speaker 2: all it takes on average.
Speaker 3: If you give them another half second to get to
Speaker 3: the quarterback, give them maybe even a little bit more
Speaker 3: than that, You give him a full second, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden Michael Parsons could be Defensive Player of
Speaker 3: the Year. That secondary never gave them that time or
Speaker 3: at least a good enough amount of time for them
Speaker 3: to really explode.
Speaker 2: Now you look at it and say this secondary could
Speaker 2: do so one thousand percent.
Speaker 7: Michael Parsons said during training camp that the addition of
Speaker 7: Stefan Gilmore is going to give him at least three
Speaker 7: more sacks.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of truth in that. But yeah,
Speaker 7: with this pass rush, I'm very curious to see how
Speaker 7: they come out just the defensive front. I'm very curious
Speaker 7: to see how they come out against the run because
Speaker 7: that's going to be the biggest indicator of how successful
Speaker 7: this defense is in my opinion. We know the pass
Speaker 7: rush is going to be fine. We know they're going
Speaker 7: to be great in coverage. The one weakness that they
Speaker 7: had last year, has that been solved? Has it been
Speaker 7: worked one enough to the fact to where it's not
Speaker 7: a weakness anymore? You know, I like how they finished
Speaker 7: the season with Hankins last year. Can they rotate with
Speaker 7: Hankins and Mazi throughout the season and it be healthy
Speaker 7: and it be you know, efficient, That's That's what I'm
Speaker 7: going to be looking for. And they have a really
Speaker 7: tough stretch to start the season, So we're gonna find
Speaker 7: out really early on Saquon Barkley, Dalvin Cook, James Connor,
Speaker 7: Christian McCaffery. I mean, the list, the list goes down,
Speaker 7: it's it's not gonna get any easier until you're bye week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we're talking about identity and fearing the strength
Speaker 3: of certain teams, John, when you look at New York
Speaker 3: coming up this week, what do you fear about New York?
Speaker 9: I mean their defensive tackles are real good. Yeah, that
Speaker 9: that certainly could be an issue there when you have,
Speaker 9: you know, Tyler Battish and then you have uh an
Speaker 9: injury to Tyler Smith with a hamstring. So it doesn't
Speaker 9: sound like it'll be something that might keep him out.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about that a little bit. Because as
Speaker 2: of twenty minutes ago, an.
Speaker 3: Update posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com added caution being
Speaker 3: taken with Tyler Smith this week is the Cowboys prepared
Speaker 3: to open their season. Former first round pick will undergo
Speaker 3: a precautionary MRI on Tuesday.
Speaker 9: So you don't love your offensive line depth because of
Speaker 9: that can we just talk about this yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 9: the interior.
Speaker 2: A couple times, actually a few times, dag nab it.
Speaker 5: That's the one position group that you can't afford an
Speaker 5: we talked about one position particular.
Speaker 6: Yeah, guard, is this our fault?
Speaker 5: Maybe we talked about we said you can move, you
Speaker 5: could tackle. Something that can happen at the tackle position, right,
Speaker 5: hopefully not center.
Speaker 4: But guard we're like guard, there's no room for error, Like,
Speaker 4: there's no room at all.
Speaker 6: You gotta start knocking on one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, beam, where's the wood in this new ste right here?
Speaker 2: I guess that's the that's the closest thing.
Speaker 8: That grove up front with Dexter Lawrence Lean Williams.
Speaker 5: They're nasty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're nasty.
Speaker 4: Then we know about the NFC East, right, the NFC
Speaker 4: East gets into the trenches. That's what the NFC East
Speaker 4: has been known for. That is the identity of the East.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Well, these guys they continue to be strong, right, and
Speaker 4: the New York Giants they have a two headed monster
Speaker 4: in there, just much like the Dallas Cowboys have a
Speaker 4: two headed monster on the outside at cornerback and at
Speaker 4: defensive end.
Speaker 5: They have a two headed monster at.
Speaker 4: The defensive tackle position, and that is where their question
Speaker 4: mark is now risen.
Speaker 5: Because of the question marked with who Tyler? So it's scary.
Speaker 7: It doesn't get any better with Kavon Sibbodo on the
Speaker 7: outside as well, get any But.
Speaker 4: We don't need to keep bringing up I mean, but
Speaker 4: you know, but you know, but I feel I feel
Speaker 4: good about our tackles right like I really do, and
Speaker 4: I feel good about our about Dallas's offensive line as
Speaker 4: an as a whole. However, as we mentioned last week's
Speaker 4: you can't afford an injury to the interior office line
Speaker 4: because you don't have a solid, confident option to roll
Speaker 4: in there and say, okay, I guess well, you can
Speaker 4: feel that void if something was that happened to the tackle,
Speaker 4: we alread knew what the game plan was, right, cupid shuffle,
Speaker 4: you bump Tyler Smith out, Bloom boo boom, everybody fits in.
Speaker 9: We're good now what Yeah, that's the thing too with hamstrings,
Speaker 9: you just don't want it to linger. So that's probably
Speaker 9: why you want the MRI because he could sit there
Speaker 9: and say after they he's feeling better and everything's fine.
Speaker 9: But you want to make sure that you take every
Speaker 9: possible you know, plan of attack on that, because you
Speaker 9: don't want it to be something that you're dealing with
Speaker 9: all season long.
Speaker 4: And hammy, hammy sucked because in a controlled environment there,
Speaker 4: you know, on the on the way back from you know,
Speaker 4: mending an injury, you can feel pretty good, right, you know,
Speaker 4: a little strength test, You're good, k little hamstring curl,
Speaker 4: you can isolate it, okay, But when it comes to
Speaker 4: the quick twitch and the changing directions and all those things.
Speaker 4: And obviously I don't know exactly how he got injured,
Speaker 4: exactly what caused it, what movement he was doing.
Speaker 2: Were you out there, Nick, were you able to see
Speaker 2: that portion of practice?
Speaker 7: So the offensive line was on the very very far side,
Speaker 7: and we just kind of caught him walking in right
Speaker 7: towards the end of the media session yesterday, and then
Speaker 7: Joe Jim Mauer was right almost said Joe Mauer.
Speaker 6: Jim Maler was coming in right behind him.
Speaker 2: So Minnesota Twins awesome football player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with yeah, because for those of you
Speaker 3: at home, the media doesn't get to watch the entirety
Speaker 3: of practice anymore. So even if these injuries pop up
Speaker 3: in practice, it's hard to see unless you're one on
Speaker 3: the field and two in the right spot because they
Speaker 3: really limit you to one side of the field, so
Speaker 3: whenever you're looking across the side, it's.
Speaker 2: You couldn't even really see anything like that.
Speaker 10: Yeah it.
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones did just say on the fan about thirty
Speaker 7: minutes ago. We'll get an MRI on that today. But
Speaker 7: we felt better about that after we assess it after practice.
Speaker 7: You always are concerned initially. Nothing we've evaluated keeps him
Speaker 7: out Sunday at this point.
Speaker 5: So it's good, you know.
Speaker 6: I guess that's that's good optimistic.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think he said it because it's a
Speaker 9: Sunday night game and he probably has it like thinking
Speaker 9: of Monday night type thing.
Speaker 4: But for sure, for sure either way from those de
Speaker 4: tackles are going to be liking the tops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they're going to see the injury report.
Speaker 2: Absolutely going to go right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyler Smith will be tested in week one, no
Speaker 3: doubt about it.
Speaker 2: From whether he's healthy or not.
Speaker 9: From your standpoint, if you going into this knowing that
Speaker 9: A we might have a tough time at handling their
Speaker 9: defensive tackles, how do you combat that?
Speaker 8: What do you have to do?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 8: What what do you have to do.
Speaker 9: Offensively to kind of bring in some extra protection there
Speaker 9: to make sure that you're good.
Speaker 4: Well, first, I mean this offense is made to stop
Speaker 4: a pass rush, Okay, So that's first off. Dak's not
Speaker 4: going to be back there holding the ball. I don't
Speaker 4: care what defensive front you're you're facing. So that's the
Speaker 4: positive thing about this offense. And I think that was
Speaker 4: an intentional change from last year based upon some of
Speaker 4: the struggles that Dak had. Right they wanted to get
Speaker 4: the ball out of his hand, quicker, easier decisions. Let's
Speaker 4: not hold it, Let's not force him to have to
Speaker 4: make these decisions where the possibly can have some interceptions.
Speaker 4: So I think they are literally blanketing him in that
Speaker 4: way protection wise. But in terms of the running game,
Speaker 4: get these guys moving, get a movie, get down on it.
Speaker 4: Rent the ball right at Tibeteaum freaking ay. We know
Speaker 4: you can pass rest well, we're gonna run this ball.
Speaker 4: Tyronsman can come at you, okay, that heavy pocket, uh
Speaker 4: Terry is still gonna come at you.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: We're gonna run this ball right down your face mask
Speaker 4: and force you to stop us. And then the big
Speaker 4: boys in the middle, we're going to see exactly what
Speaker 4: your win is looking like and how that conditioning worked
Speaker 4: this off season for you.
Speaker 7: Speak of the running game, one thing I'm really looking
Speaker 7: forward to seeing and I want to see it first
Speaker 7: drive re option.
Speaker 6: I want it back. I want to see Dak back
Speaker 6: out that slow.
Speaker 5: That was slow Tobeau down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely wanted to keep him off balanced.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, because we haven't seen that in the last
Speaker 7: couple of years since his injury. So and I know
Speaker 7: he could still do it. They tested it a little
Speaker 7: bit during training camp, put it on the field.
Speaker 2: I want to that in action.
Speaker 9: The other thing that's been missing for is in terms
Speaker 9: of being effective for the last few years, is really
Speaker 9: the screen game with the running backs, and I just
Speaker 9: you know, they got to find a way to get
Speaker 9: that work now. Of course, you know it probably looked
Speaker 9: great because when Zeke started out in his career, you know,
Speaker 9: you're talking one of the best backs in the league.
Speaker 9: You had one of the best offensive lines in the league.
Speaker 9: So I mean those two things factor together. But I
Speaker 9: think of like Zeke's biggest highlights with the Cowboys, and
Speaker 9: if I'm doing like a top ten or fifteen, like
Speaker 9: three or four, some of the screens he took, he
Speaker 9: took to the house, or just had big gains on it,
Speaker 9: and that really has been missing the last few years.
Speaker 9: So I'm wondering if they're able to kind of get
Speaker 9: that back.
Speaker 4: I think you're playing you definitely see that, because that's
Speaker 4: one of the ways you slow down really good defensive tackles.
Speaker 4: You slow them down by screen keeping them off guard
Speaker 4: and giving them more things that they have to worry
Speaker 4: about and be concerned about.
Speaker 2: Do you need a mobile and healthy guard to pull
Speaker 2: on those screens most of the time though you're.
Speaker 5: Your jerk contrace as.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's part of it. That's part of
Speaker 2: the screen game.
Speaker 3: You need your interior lineman to be healthy and mobile,
Speaker 3: and for the most part, those guys are good at
Speaker 3: doing so.
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith's better in a phone booth.
Speaker 3: We talked about that already. Or I should say he's
Speaker 3: can at the tackle spot than he is in a
Speaker 3: phone booth, is what I meant to say. He's better outside,
Speaker 3: he's better in space. But when he's healthy, that's the case.
Speaker 4: You can switch things up with the offensive scheme. I mean,
Speaker 4: your guard and your center can interchange their responsibilities on
Speaker 4: some of those screenplays. He's gonna take a little bit
Speaker 4: more work.
Speaker 11: Though.
Speaker 7: You can also throw an offset tight end or an
Speaker 7: offset full back offset full back.
Speaker 3: Do you want to say that a little bit louder
Speaker 3: for the people in the back?
Speaker 2: Okay, Hunter Lipkey?
Speaker 3: At this point, I was because I was before you
Speaker 3: started talking about Hunter Lipkey. I was about to say,
Speaker 3: where's our blocking tight end as well, because I mean,
Speaker 3: the guys on the roster are pass catchers, at least
Speaker 3: at their strength. Maybe Jake Ferguson is your leading blocker
Speaker 3: in terms of a tight end right now.
Speaker 8: I can see mckewn being called.
Speaker 2: Up from the practice squad. That's a good point.
Speaker 9: I mean mckwn and CJ. Goblin I think would probably
Speaker 9: be the two.
Speaker 8: Favorites as of right now to get black Coffman. Yeah,
Speaker 8: oh that's true too, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But if you bring up offensive linemen, don't you get three?
Speaker 2: Don't you get three? I got to look at the rules. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's the regular season again, change refresh.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've got a refresh because I think
Speaker 3: if you do bring up an offensive lineman, you get
Speaker 3: three elevations.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know about that for sure.
Speaker 8: I'm telling you that rollbook will beat you down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I was just spent a lot of time reading that
Speaker 9: whole third quarterback rule the other day. I say, we
Speaker 9: got a lot of detail on that thing.
Speaker 3: There was an email that was like here just for
Speaker 3: those who are worried or confused about it, the NFL
Speaker 3: sends out an entire media release on here's what the
Speaker 3: rule is. There's a lot there initially, but you really
Speaker 3: don't get it, and so here it is. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: that was some weekend reading, no doubt about it. Give
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Speaker 3: in the next segment. Before we get to that segment,
Speaker 3: let's talk about some good news.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some positive things here.
Speaker 3: In Week one, Cowboys lock up Terrence Steele on the
Speaker 3: outside extension for the former undrafted right tackle who continues
Speaker 3: to show that he is willing and able to grow
Speaker 3: in this offense and coming off of an injury, he
Speaker 3: looked good. He's still pushing in the right direction, and man,
Speaker 3: he's been a cornerstone for the right side of that
Speaker 3: offensive line for the last couple of years when he
Speaker 3: is healthy.
Speaker 2: But Nick, what did you think about the extension and
Speaker 2: what ended up being the new contract for Terrence Steel?
Speaker 7: Yeah, the new contract five years, eighty six point two million.
Speaker 7: I believe it has the potential of going up north
Speaker 7: of ninety one million, so very much deserved.
Speaker 6: Somebody put out a tweet yesterday.
Speaker 7: I think it was Todd Archer looking at the undrafted
Speaker 7: free agents that the Cowboys have picked up and the
Speaker 7: overall money that they've earned throughout their career, and if
Speaker 7: Terrence Steele ends up earning all of that eighty six
Speaker 7: point two million, he'll only be behind Tony Romo. So
Speaker 7: really deserved for Terrence Steel. A really good story, undrafted
Speaker 7: free agent that was thrown into the fire almost immediately
Speaker 7: and survived and came out on the other side a
Speaker 7: better player, and then you know, had a more adversity
Speaker 7: had come over with this ACL injury coming off of
Speaker 7: last year, did everything he possibly could and being diligent
Speaker 7: in that recovery, working with a director of rehabilitation, Britt Brown,
Speaker 7: and you know, I asked him, I was like, do
Speaker 7: you think the recovery had something to do with, you know,
Speaker 7: getting this contract done before the season, because you would
Speaker 7: think an ACL injury, okay, let's see him back on
Speaker 7: the field before we give him this deal, and they
Speaker 7: gave it to him. I think that just speaks to
Speaker 7: his work ethic, his diligence, and their confidence and what
Speaker 7: he can be.
Speaker 9: Still, he's super easy to root for. Actually, just a
Speaker 9: great dude.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy talked about how he was here every single
Speaker 9: day and it's always the same time and all that,
Speaker 9: and when I aske him aboudy, he said it's because
Speaker 9: he has a military background, so you know, his family
Speaker 9: always was like that.
Speaker 8: So and then just going from twenty twenty being an.
Speaker 9: Undrafted guy to get to this place, it just like again,
Speaker 9: it's just so easy to roof for him, and you
Speaker 9: want it to go well because for someone like me
Speaker 9: that you know, there's a lot of you're just covering
Speaker 9: the team and you know, comparing to other things you've seen,
Speaker 9: I mean, it's very easy to bring up. The last
Speaker 9: time that they've done this where they've signed a bunch
Speaker 9: of guys for the season was twenty nineteen and none
Speaker 9: of those went well.
Speaker 8: So there's that part of you.
Speaker 9: And when I mean that, I'm talking about the Zeke extension,
Speaker 9: the Lyle Collins, and the Jalen Smith. I mean it
Speaker 9: was all within like a couple of weeks that that
Speaker 9: all those were done, and so that's the last time
Speaker 9: where they did something like this. So I would think
Speaker 9: just law of averages because of all those it didn't
Speaker 9: work out. I would think that, you know, they deserve
Speaker 9: some good fortune in this thing. But man, like I said,
Speaker 9: I just I can't say enough like I root for
Speaker 9: anybody getting the money, but there's just some there's just
Speaker 9: some guys more than others that you're just like. Man,
Speaker 9: I'm really happy that he was able to get this,
Speaker 9: and I think for me a lot of his one.
Speaker 8: He's a good dude then too.
Speaker 9: Just the undrafted thing that's just always cool to see
Speaker 9: that happen because of how much emphasis everyone always puts
Speaker 9: on the draft and every year it gets more and more,
Speaker 9: but it just shows you can still find some guys
Speaker 9: that can be big pieces that you don't draft.
Speaker 5: I like t Steey. I like him.
Speaker 4: I've been joking around with him as of late about
Speaker 4: every time I run into him, and to him, he
Speaker 4: needs to go ahead and dread his hair up. So
Speaker 4: this costs about one hundred and fifty dollars to do so,
Speaker 4: So I think he has enough to get dreaded now.
Speaker 5: But no, that'll be.
Speaker 2: The next thing you tell him.
Speaker 4: I always tell him that every time I see him. No,
Speaker 4: So everything that you guys have touched on him. He's
Speaker 4: a great dude. He's a great dude. He has a
Speaker 4: work ethic out of this world. He gained my respect
Speaker 4: last year at Camp Kyle when we were calling the
Speaker 4: live practice against Denver and things got a little chippy.
Speaker 4: There's Randy Gregory was starting things on the sideline and
Speaker 4: really causing a stir. He wasn't even practicing, but he
Speaker 4: was really kind of sparking up fights on the side
Speaker 4: as Randon does. And Dak Prescott was kind of standing
Speaker 4: by himself at one portion of the practice, and we
Speaker 4: were sitting up on the hill and guys, I just
Speaker 4: I don't think guys were just paying They weren't paying attention, right,
Speaker 4: they were watching practice, but they didn't they didn't notice
Speaker 4: that Dak was by himself. And the entire defense of
Speaker 4: Denver was pretty much like surrounding Dak and talking mess
Speaker 4: to him. Well, there was one gentleman who went over
Speaker 4: there and was not having it, and it was T.
Speaker 5: Steel.
Speaker 4: And from that moment though, it's like it's like your
Speaker 4: little brother, right, Like you feel the vibe that your
Speaker 4: little brother needs some support, so you kind of look
Speaker 4: over there and he went. He be lined over there
Speaker 4: and pretty threw everybody out the way through everybody out
Speaker 4: the club like Jesse jeff On fresh Prince of bel Air,
Speaker 4: and got his quarterback back over to where he you know,
Speaker 4: to safety, you know, in so many words, And from
Speaker 4: that point forward, he had my respect because I knew
Speaker 4: that he had that dog in. As nice of a
Speaker 4: guy as he is, you know, he's kind of a
Speaker 4: gentle giant walking around, real soft spoken, but when it
Speaker 4: comes down to it, he got that dog in and
Speaker 4: that there's differences.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: You're talking about Deon Sanders.
Speaker 4: His team went in this past weekend and the patches
Speaker 4: that they have on their chest that d for dog
Speaker 4: that needs to go to T.
Speaker 5: Steel because he is one of the guys on his team.
Speaker 9: It was funny too, as we were talking to him
Speaker 9: yesterday for about six or seven minutes outside the locker room,
Speaker 9: just seeing guys that would walk by and you know,
Speaker 9: just yelling stuff like Michael Gallup, Zach Martin, you know,
Speaker 9: yelling out calling him big money, and you just tell like,
Speaker 9: everyone's really happy for him because he obviously puts the
Speaker 9: work in and no, yeah.
Speaker 8: That was the best way to describe it.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 9: He does come off as the gentle giant that is,
Speaker 9: that's the perfect way to describe him, but then on
Speaker 9: Sundays that's certainly not who he is.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I think one of the early defining moments for the
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy era was in Washington back in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: when Andy Dalton got hit as he was going down
Speaker 3: on the slide and nobody was there to back them up.
Speaker 3: Nobody really was there, and that was the early indication of, Okay,
Speaker 3: what does this team really have?
Speaker 2: There's something going on here.
Speaker 3: There's a culture problem to a certain extent at that
Speaker 3: point in the season, and.
Speaker 2: Things weren't going well at that point either.
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, Dak Prescott goes down, you have
Speaker 3: the rotation rotating door at quarterback, and then who was
Speaker 3: one of the first guys to step up after that
Speaker 3: learning moment. There were a couple guys, but Terrence Steel
Speaker 3: was in that mix as a rookie, as an undrafted rookie.
Speaker 3: He was in that mix as somebody that stepped up
Speaker 3: very quickly. Maybe not on that specific play, but once
Speaker 3: he saw it and he said, Okay, next time, that's
Speaker 3: not cool.
Speaker 2: It never gonna happen again.
Speaker 3: And he's been there, and so I'm glad you brought
Speaker 3: up the Denver story because that's certainly something that's stuck
Speaker 3: in my mind as well. And I think it all
Speaker 3: stems back from that initial moment when he was a
Speaker 3: rookie he was learning from those guys and said, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: not gonna happen in my quarterback. Not gonna happened to
Speaker 3: my guys ever again. And now it won't for for
Speaker 3: quite some time because he's locked up for the next
Speaker 3: five years. So happy for Tea, still happy for his
Speaker 3: work ethic and everything he's earned to this point.
Speaker 5: And a guaranteed money.
Speaker 2: We got fifty he got some guarantees.
Speaker 9: I will say, though, even with that, I know you
Speaker 9: look at these numbers and you're just like, man, it's
Speaker 9: a lot of money. But if he continues to ascend
Speaker 9: and play at the level that he's been on, you'll
Speaker 9: look back on that contract and it'll be like, Wow,
Speaker 9: that's a that's a sargain. Yeah, nice.
Speaker 4: Can we give it up for the front office right now?
Speaker 4: We talked about how aggressive the front office has been.
Speaker 4: They just continue to be aggressive and I love it.
Speaker 4: We talked about them last week saying I hope they
Speaker 4: keep that energy. Sure right, and they have kept that energy,
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 5: Hope they just keep the foot to the pedal.
Speaker 2: I want him to sign CD, and it's gonna be
Speaker 2: that'll happen.
Speaker 5: I honestly and not obviously.
Speaker 4: I don't have any insight up there, but let me
Speaker 4: put that out there before I make the statement. I
Speaker 4: have a feeling that it is a race right now
Speaker 4: to try to get CD done before Justin Jeffers I agree.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Believe that Justin Jefferson said he needs that deal done
Speaker 4: before the season kicks off.
Speaker 2: Hey Cee, do you got time today? Can you make
Speaker 2: it up to the poop three here at the Starhart
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 5: Where something may happen before weeks in.
Speaker 7: They did ask him on the fan today, Jerry Jones.
Speaker 7: They said, you know, once the season starts, does that
Speaker 7: kind of close off negotiations. You just want to focus
Speaker 7: on the season. He said, absolutely anytime we can get
Speaker 7: that deal done, so it could happen at any point,
Speaker 7: and he was referring to both dak An Cid.
Speaker 9: Either for Terren Steele and Zach Martin getting those things
Speaker 9: taken care of, Like just look at the depth behind them,
Speaker 9: Like to me that you just you have to you
Speaker 9: look at what else is there. It's not like you
Speaker 9: have a couple of guys you're just like, no, no, no,
Speaker 9: we can we can they can hold out if they want,
Speaker 9: or we can possibly go that.
Speaker 8: No, those are so important.
Speaker 9: I mean, even Jerry saying this morning on the radio
Speaker 9: about how you know, you know, he talked about how
Speaker 9: much he liked the depth and how much he likes
Speaker 9: his the current roster, but then he brought up himself
Speaker 9: the offensive line depth as in that would be the
Speaker 9: only concerned But then he points out, well, yeah, well
Speaker 9: what NFL team doesn't have that right now? And so
Speaker 9: that's the other part of the Terran Steel, the Zach
Speaker 9: Martin thing. It's like not just the depth here, it's
Speaker 9: how many quality offensive linemen can you get, like even
Speaker 9: in the entire league. And that's one of those spots,
Speaker 9: you know, it just it just seems like it's becoming
Speaker 9: harder and harder to project exactly what's going to carry
Speaker 9: over from the college game to the pro game, to
Speaker 9: the point where you obviously see a lot of swings
Speaker 9: and misses in the first round. Not here and there's
Speaker 9: nothing they've done better than draft first round offensive lineman,
Speaker 9: of course. But the other part is then also there's
Speaker 9: a part of me that when I hear the Terran
Speaker 9: Steel deal, the first thing I think of is just like,
Speaker 9: how does this guy go undrafted? Yeah, so there still
Speaker 9: has to be a part of where there's still some
Speaker 9: things that you just don't quite know for sure that
Speaker 9: there's it's tough to predict, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he slipped through the cracks.
Speaker 3: Credit to the front office for getting him done and
Speaker 3: getting him in the building, and then of course seeing
Speaker 3: the way that he's grown and developed since then.
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Speaker 3: Let's start things off with Brian in Iowa. Brian, you're
Speaker 3: back on Talking Cowboys. How's it going, my friend?
Speaker 15: Hey, it's going really good. How how are you guys.
Speaker 2: Doing doing great? What's on your mind?
Speaker 13: Well?
Speaker 15: I got a few things. I got one thing about
Speaker 15: Dak and then another thing about fifty cents. First of all,
Speaker 15: with Dak, I feel Dak has a great season and
Speaker 15: he is in the MVP running like I think he
Speaker 15: kind of was in twenty twenties before the Anchel season
Speaker 15: with he was saying the pastum record, I believe I
Speaker 15: think you can get back to that form with this
Speaker 15: offense scheme and the players around him, and with the
Speaker 15: defense I made total sex. Do you think the Cowboys
Speaker 15: will get with Michael Parsons and the rest of the
Speaker 15: defense and you guys have a great day And thank
Speaker 15: you for having me out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, Brian appreciate the call. As always, John,
Speaker 3: I'll start with you on the Dak Prescott question. Where
Speaker 3: do you think the ceiling is for Dak? Is kind
Speaker 3: of what it sounded like Brian was talking about because
Speaker 3: prior to Week six in twenty twenty one and he
Speaker 3: calf injury that he sustained on that final pass against
Speaker 3: the Patriots, he was the MVP front runner and it's
Speaker 3: hard to argue at that point statistically, play wise, win wise,
Speaker 3: he was there. Do you think he can get back
Speaker 3: to that because we haven't necessarily seen it.
Speaker 9: Since he can, I don't think that they really need
Speaker 9: him to though. And the reason I say that is
Speaker 9: because the way this season starts is reminded me. Now
Speaker 9: these are not apples to apples, but it reminds me
Speaker 9: a little bit of twenty fourteen because there was a
Speaker 9: little bit of that, you know, we're gonna take some
Speaker 9: more off Tony Romo's plate.
Speaker 8: We're gonna have DeMarco Murray.
Speaker 9: You know, be kind of the focal back, and it
Speaker 9: just changed a little bit about the offense. And just
Speaker 9: before that, leading up to you felt like there was
Speaker 9: a period of time there where Tony had to play
Speaker 9: really well and win these games, and DeMarco kind of
Speaker 9: took something off of his plate and it ended up
Speaker 9: leading one of Tony's, if not Tony's best seasons.
Speaker 8: And so with this team, I think the running game
Speaker 8: will be good.
Speaker 9: I do not think it'll be DeMarco Murray twenty fourteen good.
Speaker 9: But it's the defense now. So because of how loaded
Speaker 9: this defense is, he doesn't have to be that guy
Speaker 9: that he was, you know, back then, throwing as much
Speaker 9: as he was. And I do think that there there
Speaker 9: could be some hiccups early in the season, just with
Speaker 9: like a new offense in that. But the thing I
Speaker 9: keep going back to, and I know it's it's a
Speaker 9: way spot you know in the past, and I know
Speaker 9: it's a different team, but man, you just look at
Speaker 9: those numbers that Brett Favre put up the year before
Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy took over in Green Bay. I mean, we're
Speaker 9: beaten down fifteen interceptions, like it's the worst thing we've
Speaker 9: ever heard. Brett Favre through twenty nine the year before
Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy became head coach, and then it cut it
Speaker 9: down McCarthy's first year, I believe it was around fifteen,
Speaker 9: and then the second year got it down to twelve.
Speaker 8: And that's Brett Farr, who.
Speaker 9: You know, is you know, have one of the most
Speaker 9: talented arms that's ever been in the game, and it's
Speaker 9: probably attempted more bad throws than anybody ever has in
Speaker 9: the game, just because of his ability and for him
Speaker 9: to be able to as a first time head coach
Speaker 9: be able to get a guy like Brett Farv that
Speaker 9: was established as he was at that point, to you know,
Speaker 9: be more you know, I wouldn't say conservative, but just
Speaker 9: be taking care of the ball better. That to me,
Speaker 9: it's like, did Tony need to put up the best
Speaker 9: numbers ever to say twenty fourteen might be his best season? No,
Speaker 9: But the trickle down was that if everything else fell
Speaker 9: into place, he ended up having that And I believe
Speaker 9: if Dak takes care of the ball, everything else falls
Speaker 9: into place, they win more games, and if the Cowboys
Speaker 9: are winning games, he's going to be in all those conversations.
Speaker 9: I mean that's how it is with I mean, you
Speaker 9: can talk about it in college football with the Heisman Trophy,
Speaker 9: you know, at the quarterback position is the same way
Speaker 9: in the NFL. If your team is rolling, your quarterback
Speaker 9: is going to be in that conversation.
Speaker 7: Well said, yeah, I think we've talked about it a
Speaker 7: lot about how this offense is constructed around Dak. It's
Speaker 7: put into quote unquote Dak's language. Does that lead to
Speaker 7: an MVP conversation? I lean no, Just because of what
Speaker 7: you said, they're gonna have to lean on the running game.
Speaker 7: They're gonna have to lean on the defense to help
Speaker 7: them out in some areas as well. So you just
Speaker 7: need Dak to be Dak. You don't need Dak to
Speaker 7: be MVP, you know. I think if they can, if
Speaker 7: they can work that around, then it's a successful season.
Speaker 7: The only think everyone would rather have a successful season
Speaker 7: than a Dak MVP season.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, the.
Speaker 9: Only thing I was going to add on that though,
Speaker 9: on the MVP thing, X coming off of arguably his
Speaker 9: worst season, because of the turnovers. He's I feel better
Speaker 9: about him being in the MVP conversation this year than
Speaker 9: I would have last season at this time about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8: So things go up and down real fast in this league.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 9: Nobody expected Jalen Hurts to have that season. Maybe Jalen
Speaker 9: Hurts did, maybe there's some people in Philadelphia's front office,
Speaker 9: maybe Nick Sirianni did, But most people did not think
Speaker 9: like he was going to take it to that level.
Speaker 9: It's not like that was his second season or we
Speaker 9: just hadn't had there was a decent sample size on him,
Speaker 9: and obviously there was a lot of good pieces around him.
Speaker 9: But he took his game to another level that I
Speaker 9: don't think most people were expecting. So you just you
Speaker 9: don't really know for well when he.
Speaker 3: Did so by being efficient, Yeah, I mean that was
Speaker 3: the case with Jalen Hurts, and now that's what you're
Speaker 3: asking Dak to be.
Speaker 2: You're not asking Dak to be over the top. You're
Speaker 2: asking him to.
Speaker 3: Be efficient all the way through and making things simple
Speaker 3: on him so that way he can lead things like
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts did.
Speaker 2: I think you're muted.
Speaker 6: I think you're knee it's going to be John next
Speaker 6: episode there you go to.
Speaker 8: Pull your mic over.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm growing. Yeah, I think you guys hit it.
Speaker 4: I mean this everybody's expectations as DAK are. Everybody's looking
Speaker 4: for the big plays. I feel like in the fan
Speaker 4: fan world, that's not what coach McCarthy's looking for. Coach
Speaker 4: McCarthy's looking for that high efficiency, high probability of completion rate,
Speaker 4: and that's what he's looking for. He doesn't care if
Speaker 4: it's you know, fourteen yards or five yards. He wants
Speaker 4: it manageable in terms of his his ability to deliver
Speaker 4: a solid, accurate ball. You're gonna still have your deep shots,
Speaker 4: but those deep shots are gonna come off a play action.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a very simplified chill offense. And
Speaker 4: to you guys's point, you know, with a successful team
Speaker 4: comes a successful MVP running for most quarterbacks, most teams,
Speaker 4: it's just a quarterback league. But this is not going
Speaker 4: to be forty passes a game, DOC, So people just
Speaker 4: need to get that out of their hisads.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you should want that either. No, Like,
Speaker 9: if you look at those box scores at the end
Speaker 9: of the game, if you missed the game by some chance.
Speaker 9: I don't think you really want to see a bunch
Speaker 9: of those games like that, because before you know the
Speaker 9: the ankle injury, there were a lot of games like
Speaker 9: that where he was playing like that and you really
Speaker 9: felt like, well, if he doesn't play like this, they're
Speaker 9: not going to win.
Speaker 8: Well, he doesn't have to play like that now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's what you want, like you said,
Speaker 3: And if it is that sort of forty passes, pass attempts,
Speaker 3: you want it to be short completions. Maybe it's because
Speaker 3: you're methodical on offense. If the box score does end
Speaker 3: up ballooning like that, you want it to be efficient
Speaker 3: work on the offense as opposed to just let's just
Speaker 3: throw the ball to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Jim in passive.
Speaker 8: Don't want to get this sect total thing.
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about that. We'll get Jim first. Let's
Speaker 3: get Jim out of the way.
Speaker 12: Jim.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 16: Good morning, guys?
Speaker 5: How are you great?
Speaker 2: How are you good?
Speaker 16: All right? I want to play a game. If Parsons,
Speaker 16: Smith and o'diggy Zua and Lawrence are you're starting four
Speaker 16: on the D line. Huh, who are your next four?
Speaker 16: And are those next four better than any of the
Speaker 16: d lines in the league.
Speaker 8: That's really tough.
Speaker 2: I like to know appreciate the call. Jim as always.
Speaker 9: One of our national NFL writers at the Athletic Robert
Speaker 9: Mays goes to a bunch of different training camps, and
Speaker 9: so when he came to the Cowboys camp, we always
Speaker 9: do like a pod, and I think he came the
Speaker 9: second week and when we talked about the defensive ends,
Speaker 9: he said he thinks that they have the best defensive
Speaker 9: end rotation in the entire league. And I lean on
Speaker 9: him a lot more because I mean, I just most
Speaker 9: of my time is dedicated to following this team. I
Speaker 9: just wouldn't feel comfortable sitting there and saying then again,
Speaker 9: there's a lot of people nationally that love to talk
Speaker 9: about that stuff, and I don't think that they ever
Speaker 9: really seen anything either, but call him out, John. It
Speaker 9: would be just tough for me to sit there and
Speaker 9: definitively say, no, this is the best I will say.
Speaker 9: I don't think Mazzie Smith is in the ones there.
Speaker 9: I would have him with the twos. I think Miss
Speaker 9: Hankins and O'deiggie Zoo or your two starting defensive tackles
Speaker 9: with Lawrence Parsons on the outside, and then your twos
Speaker 9: in the middle would be Mazzi and Neville Gallimore. Now
Speaker 9: this is where it gets interesting, because I would I
Speaker 9: would have Sam Williams in there because I think he's
Speaker 9: got the highest upside. But Dorince Armstrong is there, Dante Fowler, like,
Speaker 9: those are guys that have proven it more. But but
Speaker 9: Sam Williams for me, is the wild card. Because Sam
Speaker 9: Williams could be five sacks, Sam Williams could be twelve sacks,
Speaker 9: and either way, I would be like, yeah, I can
Speaker 9: kind of see that happening, you know, Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I think I would.
Speaker 3: I would go the same way with the starters d
Speaker 3: Lall Hankins right now, Osa Parsons, and then then second level.
Speaker 2: And I think this goes to Jim's point.
Speaker 3: You go to the second level, and then you've got
Speaker 3: Mazzie Smith, who of course is the first round defensive tackle,
Speaker 3: Sam Williams, who's the second round defensive tackle, Nevill Callimore,
Speaker 3: who's a third round defensive tackle. I said defensive tackle,
Speaker 3: I mean ed rusher for Sam Williams, But you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Dorren's Armstrong there as well.
Speaker 3: I think, man, that's tough between Dorance Armstrong and Dante Fowler.
Speaker 3: That's where I kind of have this this hold up
Speaker 3: because I think I'm there with you. I think Sam
Speaker 3: Williams is that other edg Rusher. What do you think, Isaiah?
Speaker 5: They're interchangeable, I really do.
Speaker 2: But that's not the game, I know. But it depends
Speaker 2: on the situations the game.
Speaker 5: It depends on the situation. Man.
Speaker 4: If I'm if I'm just simply just trying to get
Speaker 4: back there for sacks, then yeah, Sam Williams. If I
Speaker 4: if it's a third in medium, I'm probably using doorrans.
Speaker 8: I'm just looking at these sac numbers are so twenty.
Speaker 2: I mean Dallas had fifty four last year, correct, Yes,
Speaker 2: they did.
Speaker 5: Philly had the most. Philly has seventy.
Speaker 8: Believe Yeah, I know you're right on.
Speaker 9: It's just funny because I went back the last few
Speaker 9: years and then I go to twenty twenty twenty and
Speaker 9: twenty thirty one sacks Cowboys had.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And you know what' funny about last year though, too,
Speaker 9: is like I know, Philly clearly had the most, Like
Speaker 9: you said, seventy, there was there was a time, like
Speaker 9: first half of the season where like I mean, they were
Speaker 9: neck and neck with the Cowboys and then Philly pulled
Speaker 9: the way towards the back end. So for me, there's
Speaker 9: no reason they shouldn't be in that conversation all the
Speaker 9: way to the end of the season. But that also
Speaker 9: brings up a point that I'm just interested to see,
Speaker 9: like how do they do on that second half of
Speaker 9: the season. There were times where Micah Parsons wasn't as
Speaker 9: effective getting after the quarterback a little bit later in
Speaker 9: the season. It was part of the reason in this
Speaker 9: obviose season, im about bulking up a little bit more
Speaker 9: for that, you know, that stretch run and being a
Speaker 9: little bit healthier then.
Speaker 8: So that's to me where it's got to be.
Speaker 9: And then to how Nick points out, you know the
Speaker 9: way that this schedule sets up, you know it's a
Speaker 9: lot of running backs early, a lot more passing later.
Speaker 9: A lot more passing would lead to more sacks, So
Speaker 9: maybe that happens in the second half.
Speaker 8: That's the key.
Speaker 5: This is my prediction.
Speaker 4: If Dallas can be in the top fifteen in rush defense,
Speaker 4: they will lead the league in sacks.
Speaker 3: Like that, okay, because they go hand in hand, absolutely,
Speaker 3: I like that. I like it as well, and I
Speaker 3: think I agree with you. I think it goes back
Speaker 3: to what we talked about right at the jump too,
Speaker 3: of having this secondary affect the pass rush and.
Speaker 2: Having this secondary.
Speaker 3: This is a better secondary than Dallas has had in
Speaker 3: quite some time.
Speaker 5: This is the best secondary in the league.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not ready in the conversa, but it's in
Speaker 3: the conversation, which is saying something because they have never
Speaker 3: been in the conversation.
Speaker 7: It's the best cornerback duo in the league. I'm ready
Speaker 7: to say that. I think I'm ready to say.
Speaker 2: Let me see the regular season. Stefan Gilmour.
Speaker 3: First, I love training camp pipe as much as anybody,
Speaker 3: but let's let me see it first.
Speaker 2: For that, I think they're really really good, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong.
Speaker 3: And they're in the conversation even if they aren't the
Speaker 3: answer to that conversation. But with that secondary, I think
Speaker 3: it opens up the possibilities. Look at Philadelphia, the reason
Speaker 3: why they had seventy sacks is because they had depth
Speaker 3: on the defensive line and they had depth in the secondary.
Speaker 3: Dallas had depth on the defensive line, they didn't necessarily
Speaker 3: have any depth in the secondary, especially in the back
Speaker 3: half of the season.
Speaker 2: Whenever did Philadelphia did end up pulling away.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, seventy sacks for Philly last year,
Speaker 3: fifty four for Dallas. Let's go back to Brian's question,
Speaker 3: how many sacks Nick, do you think the Cowboys have
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 7: I think with the addition of Stefan Gilmore, because I've
Speaker 7: seen regular season Stefan Gilmore, I know what he can
Speaker 7: bring to the table.
Speaker 2: I agree, I think they.
Speaker 6: Can get to sixty sixty. I think they can get
Speaker 6: to sixty if everyone stays healthy. That's key, that's low.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I don't know. I'd probably say like under sixty.
Speaker 6: I think it's a healthy over under.
Speaker 3: At sixty, I would say over over, yeah, over by
Speaker 3: a little bit. I'd say sixty three if everybody stays healthy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take over because I think they're
Speaker 9: good enough to average for a game that would be
Speaker 9: sixty eight. And I did that in my calculator. There's
Speaker 9: no chance, no chance to have that in my head.
Speaker 9: I'm completed when it comes to math. So that was
Speaker 9: all the calculator, and so that puts Philly last year
Speaker 9: a little over for a game. I think this team
Speaker 9: is capable of doing for a game. But a big
Speaker 9: part of that will be Michael Parsons. He's had thirteen
Speaker 9: I think, and then thirteen and a half. I think
Speaker 9: he's you know, I think he's poised too, especially if
Speaker 9: he can keep it going on the back half of
Speaker 9: the season. He could be a sixteen seventeen eighteen SAT guy.
Speaker 3: Could he get if he keeps the train move and
Speaker 3: the way that he did in the first two thirds
Speaker 3: of the season last year, Could.
Speaker 2: He get to twenty? Yeah?
Speaker 9: If that happened though, to me, a key piece and
Speaker 9: that would be just they'd have to have outstanding health
Speaker 9: on defense because if that happens, then you know, there's
Speaker 9: so many other guys that will wear on the defense
Speaker 9: that he's I feel like to get to twenty. And
Speaker 9: I might be I might not be talking factually here,
Speaker 9: so you guys can call me out if you want,
Speaker 9: But I find it hard to believe you get to
Speaker 9: twenty sacks that they're all just like twenty just hard earned.
Speaker 8: I just got every bit of that.
Speaker 9: Like, there's got to be some guineas that are there's
Speaker 9: some layups where you're just like, hey, I've bet it
Speaker 9: from this. Also, when I'm saying that, I'm thinking significantly
Speaker 9: it's on one play and it's that that the Brett
Speaker 9: fire going down with Michael Strahan got the record.
Speaker 8: Michael Strahan obviously deserves.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's outstanding, but I just always think of
Speaker 9: that play like we're usually no, nope, you got it down.
Speaker 2: Have fun, have fun.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: What do you think over under sixty sacks for the
Speaker 3: Cowboys defense? Should everybody stay healthy?
Speaker 2: That's a big key in this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if they can do, if they have a solid
Speaker 4: rush defense, they'll hit sixty two. That's my number, sixty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3: So lots of high expectations for the defense, as you
Speaker 3: would anticipate going into the year. But I think if
Speaker 3: they get less than sixty, either health is a is
Speaker 3: a big factor in it, or it's just a lack.
Speaker 9: Of execution because the town you say, when you said
Speaker 9: about the running, that's because you feel like if they
Speaker 9: can stop the run, then teams will just be forced
Speaker 9: to throw.
Speaker 8: You have more opportunities.
Speaker 4: Yes, so that's one portion of it, right, But also
Speaker 4: you have to go to the other side of the
Speaker 4: ball and the offense. Offense has to be able to
Speaker 4: put up points. So the offense is dragging and they're
Speaker 4: not putting up points effectively. Right now, We're not looking
Speaker 4: for this to be killing Moore sky at out type offense, right,
Speaker 4: but they need to be able to have a fourteen
Speaker 4: point lead in order to take teams.
Speaker 5: Out of their game plan. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, if you have a ten fourteen point lead, now
Speaker 4: you could start taking teams out of their game plan.
Speaker 4: As long as teams can remain in their game plan,
Speaker 4: then my approach to this defense is running the ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: When he says that the game, I always think of
Speaker 9: his last year against Minnesota, Like how Mike on that
Speaker 9: first series just set the tone and he was coming
Speaker 9: on that backside and sacked Cousins And I'll just always
Speaker 9: remember it because I love at and T Stadium, But
Speaker 9: my favorite thing about Minnesota is an open press box,
Speaker 9: and just to be able to actually hear all that sound,
Speaker 9: it was just wild because I'll never forget how Micah
Speaker 9: was coming off the backside and Cousins doesn't see him,
Speaker 9: but you can just hear the crowd like wanting to
Speaker 9: yell to him, like he's closing in like you're not
Speaker 9: gonna make this. It was such a tone center for
Speaker 9: the rest of that game. And that's like the most
Speaker 9: complete game I've seen, and a lot of it has
Speaker 9: to do with exactly what you said. It just completely
Speaker 9: because that's the thing a lot of people hate on
Speaker 9: Kirk Cousins and Minnesota was rolling at that time, and
Speaker 9: the way that they just from the very beginning defensively.
Speaker 2: Eight and one, right, I think so, yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they had bet coming off that game when they
Speaker 9: beat the Bills. Yeah that you know that.
Speaker 2: That was a wild game all the time.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, like they were rolling.
Speaker 9: So it's not like it's this, oh well, I just
Speaker 9: know a lot of Cowboys fans feel like, well they
Speaker 9: always beat the Vikings, but it's like, no, they've beaten
Speaker 9: some good vikings. But that game, when you said, that's
Speaker 9: the first one I thought of, because that changed up everything.
Speaker 8: The way they said the tone early with that, I
Speaker 8: really did.
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Speaker 3: In that early segment, we were talking about offensive line
Speaker 3: and we were talking about Tyler Smith, our guy Kent
Speaker 3: from La Crusis, New Mexico.
Speaker 2: He uh, he wanted to call you out.
Speaker 3: He texted into the Cowboys text line eight one seven
Speaker 3: two nine zero three two nine eight. He said, I
Speaker 3: don't understand how you are so concerned with potentially losing
Speaker 3: a guard, but say you're okay with losing a tackle
Speaker 3: when it requires moving a guard.
Speaker 2: I know what you were trying to say. I want
Speaker 2: you to get a chance to defend yourself here. You're
Speaker 2: not okay with losing anybody on that offensive.
Speaker 5: Line, right? No, not okay at all?
Speaker 4: And obviously what I was getting at, Yes, you have
Speaker 4: to still rotate a new guard in if you lose
Speaker 4: a tackle. However, Okay, losing a tackle at least you
Speaker 4: have a formidable backup that you feel confident about.
Speaker 5: That's what I was getting at.
Speaker 4: The guard position solely does not have a strong suitor
Speaker 4: that you feel confident about on this roster, regardless if
Speaker 4: that means if you lost a tackle, you gotta bump
Speaker 4: one in, it doesn't matter. I don't care how you
Speaker 4: get to it. You don't feel good about your gardens.
Speaker 4: And we know that the front office knows that I
Speaker 4: was assumed that they were working on that. I assume
Speaker 4: that this probably scares the crap out of them. And
Speaker 4: this is kind of a he little hello, hello, little moment,
Speaker 4: kay lit little Yeah. Anyways, So yeah, so yeah, I
Speaker 4: address that you just if you have to rotate that
Speaker 4: guard position at all, it's a bad situation for the
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys currently where the development exists for their backups.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I always wonder how much PTSD is with Cowboys fans
Speaker 9: from that Chaz Green Adrian Claiborne game.
Speaker 8: I know I think about that significantly.
Speaker 9: Just because it was so it just stood out so
Speaker 9: much that I feel like anytime there's no offensive line
Speaker 9: injury and you think about, like to your point when
Speaker 9: you were thinking, oh, when you mentioned the backup guards.
Speaker 9: I'm thinking, okay, who is it? Like, who would I feel?
Speaker 9: And I'm thinking TJ Bass right now. But there's a
Speaker 9: there's a part of you when you're thinking about it,
Speaker 9: and of course that's guard and Chans.
Speaker 8: Green was playing on the outside.
Speaker 9: But it just is one of those things where you're
Speaker 9: just like you just start fearing like, well then everything's
Speaker 9: going to fall apart where I don't know, like I
Speaker 9: really I I have a lot of confidence in Mike
Speaker 9: McCarthy when there's chaos, like he's done some he's really
Speaker 9: impressed me over the last couple of years, like whether
Speaker 9: it be that going down or in some situations where.
Speaker 5: He's handles some situations.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so if there were to be without
Speaker 8: he's had plenty of them too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I give him a lot of credit for
Speaker 9: his ability in those in those type of situations that
Speaker 9: he'll have a plan for for this type of thing.
Speaker 9: And the other thing is when you have a really
Speaker 9: experienced head coach like that, well we'll sit here and
Speaker 9: talk about this and fans will listen to this and
Speaker 9: you know, be worried about there's not going to be
Speaker 9: much that he hasn't seen. You know, I thought that
Speaker 9: was funny Estuary when he was talking about the Kicker,
Speaker 9: when he was asked about Kicker and he was like, well,
Speaker 9: just to be honest, I mean, I haven't had like
Speaker 9: a sold you know, the guy every single year. I
Speaker 9: mean every year. It's been somebody different, you know, for
Speaker 9: the last three years.
Speaker 8: So that's one.
Speaker 9: That's one of those things with the experien So I'm
Speaker 9: sure he's ready to roll with a game plan that
Speaker 9: will compliment if it is a TJ.
Speaker 8: Bass or whoever.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 8: Obviously it's gonna limit things.
Speaker 9: It's not gonna be the same because I think you're
Speaker 9: gonna have to take some stuff off the table. But
Speaker 9: I have a lot of confidence that he would come
Speaker 9: up with a good game plan.
Speaker 3: Now with Tyler Smith dealing with this hamstring again, the
Speaker 3: Cowboys believe it's minor. They're taking a precautionary look at
Speaker 3: it with the MRI today. But Nick, when you look
Speaker 3: at the depth chart, you said something in a moment
Speaker 3: ago that kind of piqued my interest.
Speaker 2: Would TJ. Bass be your number one option?
Speaker 3: Because they've only got three guys offensive lineman wise that
Speaker 3: are behind the starters.
Speaker 2: It's true mydoga who of course.
Speaker 3: Is banged up in his own right as he left
Speaker 3: that training camp practice late in Oxnard. Awesome Richards, the
Speaker 3: fifth round rookie out of North Carolina, and then the
Speaker 3: undrafted rookie TJ Bass jumping in, and we just talked
Speaker 3: about Terrence Steele as an undrafted free agent who was
Speaker 3: thrown into the fire early and continued to work to
Speaker 3: where he is now. I'm not saying that's the ideal situation,
Speaker 3: but do you feel comfortable if Tyler Smith is unable
Speaker 3: to go on Sunday Night that TJ Bass could fill
Speaker 3: that void.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say no, just because I don't want to
Speaker 7: throw an undrafted rookie into the fire like that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give a quick case for each of those three.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 6: Chumay Dooga, I feel like has more of a guard build.
Speaker 7: He's got that wide set. I don't feel like he's
Speaker 7: athletic enough to be at tackle. I want to put
Speaker 7: him in that phone booth and get him working with
Speaker 7: that wide, that white set, because he's got really good hands,
Speaker 7: So I want to put him there and see what
Speaker 7: that looks like and correct me if I'm wrong. But
Speaker 7: whenever Tyler Smith went out yesterday. I know we only
Speaker 7: had like two or three minutes, but I believe.
Speaker 6: It was Chuma that rotated in.
Speaker 9: I didn't see, Okay, I believe it was, but it
Speaker 9: was like, yeah.
Speaker 6: It wasn't Dentton, Like it was so far away from
Speaker 6: telling you.
Speaker 9: That has always been the thing going back to Valley Ranch,
Speaker 9: as the head coach is like always put the offensive
Speaker 9: line is far away.
Speaker 8: I mean even look at training camp, they always do
Speaker 8: it like this's got to.
Speaker 2: Be in the far end where nobody can see.
Speaker 9: There was there was a time and during one of
Speaker 9: the walkthroughs, during one of the it was the second
Speaker 9: from last week of practice, where they worked out kind
Speaker 9: of in front of where we were, and I just
Speaker 9: thought it was funny because I remember I went over
Speaker 9: there and took a picture.
Speaker 8: You went over there, took a picture.
Speaker 9: Patrick Walker ever took a picture just because it was
Speaker 9: like it was just the offensive line working out. But
Speaker 9: it's like they never work out anywhere near where anybody's at,
Speaker 9: like media wise, they always make sure that they're they're
Speaker 9: way far away.
Speaker 8: And it has to know by design, it has to.
Speaker 6: Be it has to be really quick to finish up
Speaker 6: those three. TJ. Bass I really love what he's put together.
Speaker 7: He had one of the best pass block and run
Speaker 7: blocking grades in preseason, but granted it was preseason. I
Speaker 7: really want to give him time because if you cheat
Speaker 7: his process, that's that's going to be unfortunate. He has
Speaker 7: a ton of experience at left guard. He's coming in
Speaker 7: with that experience at left guard. They've worked him at
Speaker 7: right guard just to kind of get him used to
Speaker 7: having both sides, and if he needs to kind of
Speaker 7: fill in both sides, they have that. But he comes
Speaker 7: in with a ton of experience from Oregon at left guard.
Speaker 7: And then don't forget about Austin Richard's got a ton
Speaker 7: of work at left guard during training camp. They want
Speaker 7: to be able to use him at either left tackle.
Speaker 6: Or left guard. That's another guy I don't want to
Speaker 6: throw into the fire that early.
Speaker 7: So if it comes a situation where if Tyler Smith
Speaker 7: cannot play on Sunday night, I think shootway Dooga is
Speaker 7: probably your best off.
Speaker 2: He's the veteran of the group.
Speaker 6: Feel comfortable about that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's the conversation is we don't
Speaker 3: feel comfortable about anything if any one of those top
Speaker 3: five guys go down, but there has to be some
Speaker 3: sort of backup plan, and it appears that those at
Speaker 3: least would be the early.
Speaker 2: Indications of those backup plans.
Speaker 8: But and he should be familiar with that stadium, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's played there a couple times before. Right yeah,
Speaker 2: all right?
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Speaker 3: the New York Giants offense tomorrow. So how can that
Speaker 3: stacked defensive front take down Danny Dimes and the Cowboys
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Speaker 3: on Thursday we'll flip it to the offense talk about
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