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<v Speaker 3>Gil, I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you were that till halftime of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lakers game down by as many as twenty one points.

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<v Speaker 2>They come back and beat the Clippers one sixteen with

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<v Speaker 2>the one to fourteen to one twelve, one sixteen to

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<v Speaker 2>one twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a late dunk by Cam Reddish twenty one points.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lakers scored thirty nine points in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one from gold James. He single handedly outscored the

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers by himself. The Clippers scored sixteen in the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>James scored nineteen in the fourth. Anthony Davis Chip then

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<v Speaker 2>with twenty points, twelve rebounds, three blocks, uh D'Angelo Russell

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<v Speaker 2>d low Hill a big three late in the ball

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<v Speaker 2>game to put them up six, and he finished with

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen points six assists. We're gonna start with no, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go ahead and start with this game, Jill. You

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<v Speaker 2>saw the game. You were there. The Lakers seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>they were just going through the motion. They were not rebounding,

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<v Speaker 2>they were not playing any defense, and all they did

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<v Speaker 2>was turned them all over in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just seems like, you know, with this group,

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<v Speaker 1>they still don't have their.

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<v Speaker 3>Their stuff together, and it's it's weird because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, we've been together a few months, all

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<v Speaker 1>Star Break. We should be like clockwork, and it still

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they have no idea where each other should be,

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<v Speaker 1>what each other wants to do, you know. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird because you watch the Clippers and they look like

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<v Speaker 1>they're in motion. I mean, they had what some points

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half. Yeah, and it's like that's how

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<v Speaker 1>we should be right now, and the fact that we're

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<v Speaker 1>still in this I might be traded phase is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sad to see, but we got to win, so

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<v Speaker 3>that's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Man really has been played well since he started

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<v Speaker 2>being inserting into the starting lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>He gave him big minutes tonight, huge buggets.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Davis is doing what Anthony Davis does, challenging everything

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<v Speaker 2>at the rim, giving you double digit rebounds on a

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<v Speaker 2>nightly basis. Only had twenty points, but he only had

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen shot attempts. D Low has been playing unbelievable. Aster

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<v Speaker 2>Reeves has been allster Reeves, steady, steady, steady. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get great production off the bench, but we got enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you needed something.

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<v Speaker 2>Normal Power had fourteen for the Clippers off the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>Russ had eighteen and Madson Plumbley had eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker got some great cardio in tonight. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>zero cross the board with the exception of two rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got thirty points off. You got thirty points

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<v Speaker 2>off the Clippers bitch and the Lakers had they only

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<v Speaker 2>got fourteen, but they really needed Cam Ready to play

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<v Speaker 2>some really solid defense. But the story of the night

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<v Speaker 2>was Lebron and we've been waiting for him to have

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<v Speaker 2>one of these virtuosols where we know he can take

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<v Speaker 2>the game over, because if you followed him at any

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<v Speaker 2>point in time through his illustrious twenty one year career,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he still has these in him. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know they don't come with the regularity that they did

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<v Speaker 2>early in his career, say the first ten years, a

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<v Speaker 2>maybe year eleven through sixteen, but he has it any

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<v Speaker 2>and when they needed it tonight, he got it going

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter. Gale, what did you see and

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<v Speaker 2>how was he able to get it going?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see shit, huh. I was on the freeways

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<v Speaker 1>drive in here. I gotta watch the replay. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what make greates great, right when when you really need

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it on and they you really need them

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<v Speaker 1>to perform at a high level, they can tap.

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<v Speaker 3>Into it no matter how old they are.

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<v Speaker 1>When we needed Dwight Howard in that bubble against Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>his greatness defensively showed.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're talking about towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the season going into the playoffs, the greats still need

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<v Speaker 1>to be great every single time, specially at this age.

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<v Speaker 1>He just needs to be great when we needed him to,

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<v Speaker 1>and tonight it seems like That's what he did while

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<v Speaker 1>my ass was on the freeway.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, And you're right, Gil, what the greats can

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<v Speaker 2>do although they can't summons it up with the with

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<v Speaker 2>the regularity they once could when they were younger. Paul's

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<v Speaker 2>I know, everybody goes say, what you mean, summons it up?

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<v Speaker 2>They still can do it. And that's what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be careful of. Because we saw Kobe, even though

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<v Speaker 2>he shot the ball as many times he dead given

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<v Speaker 2>his final game, he got the sixty That lets you

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<v Speaker 2>know he still had it in there and he could

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<v Speaker 2>still reach down into that reserve and pull it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's been a while since we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen Lebron James shoot the ball this well, not only

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<v Speaker 2>from two point range, but from three point range.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was the three point range.

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<v Speaker 2>That that once he saw the first one go in,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, all of a sudden, he's like man. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when you knew something was going on, when he

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<v Speaker 2>came down on the corner on the side and pulled

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<v Speaker 2>up in front of the Clippers bench, in front of

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<v Speaker 2>Norman Power, I said, oh boy, y'all got hell on

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<v Speaker 2>your hand now, because the one thing you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see a player like him.

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<v Speaker 3>The greats could all do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe, the Jordan's, the Lebrons, the Kd's, the Steph Currge.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys see a couple go in and they smell

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<v Speaker 2>the blood in the water. They can see the blood

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<v Speaker 2>in the warm warm, and now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a frenzy and everything they put up seemingly is

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<v Speaker 2>finding home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's that's the NBA model.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's like that in football, but

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, once we see a few go

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<v Speaker 1>down that that that oven's hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Hence why when the player is trying to get warm

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<v Speaker 1>and the whistle blue and he shoots it and someone

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<v Speaker 1>goes up and blocks it. The reason they because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that player to see the ball going. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to let it go. I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to see it because all you need is the visual boom. Okay, budget,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's go. Let's get heated, because you can go

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<v Speaker 1>zero for ten and that shot after goes in, now

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<v Speaker 1>you ten for ten. So the player is having a

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<v Speaker 1>rough time, you want to keep him from scoring any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of basket, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So what Lebron seemed to do tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like anybody when you see the balls is finding

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<v Speaker 1>its way in that rim. Anything you throw up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has the magical way of going in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to figure out how this drives the

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<v Speaker 2>ball as much as he does. And he shoots one

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<v Speaker 2>free throw tonight, and I know it's you're twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't drive with the veracity or the ferocity

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<v Speaker 2>that he once did, but he still puts the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball on the floor and drives the ball to the basket.

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<v Speaker 2>And the calls that they give James Harden or the

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<v Speaker 2>calls that they give some of these honest, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and plus lord, don't even look at Joel and b.

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<v Speaker 2>They gonna call the foul. And you look at Joel

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<v Speaker 2>and B. He's shooting twenty a night. Lebron shot one

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<v Speaker 2>free throw tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we have this this this it's it's backwards. It's

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<v Speaker 1>backwards thinking you don't want to be strong in the NBA. No,

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<v Speaker 1>heies for it. Yes, Shaques, you know Shaq Lebron even

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<v Speaker 1>gi honest, even you, right, the guys who can take

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<v Speaker 1>the hit, they expect you to take to hit. So

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<v Speaker 1>when he goes to the lane, he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not allowed to.

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<v Speaker 1>We know you're supposed to finish that, right, he has

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<v Speaker 1>to be cry baby James to get the foul. So

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<v Speaker 1>now to over exaggerate hits Jolan b Now now he

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<v Speaker 1>has to.

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<v Speaker 3>Flop to sell.

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<v Speaker 1>The hit because if he goes in there and he

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<v Speaker 1>runs through somebody and he gets hit and he dunks it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not calling that right.

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<v Speaker 3>So he has to scill and do all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hes going you flop and look at him flopping then.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the way the game is. Right if I

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<v Speaker 1>go to the lane, If I go to the lane

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<v Speaker 1>and I get touch foul, here we go. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that's why these younger, smaller guards, skinnier guards getting more

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<v Speaker 1>foul than the stronger guys who drive all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the thing is, but I'm not sure that's

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<v Speaker 2>what That's what doctor Nasmith intended that if you're big

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<v Speaker 2>and you're strong, reff you don't call the foul. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>a file is a foul, whether you shack size seven

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<v Speaker 2>one three, twenty five, three forty or your dar in

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<v Speaker 2>Fox and the thing was, but tonight they really he

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<v Speaker 2>did really didn't need to drive the ball because he

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<v Speaker 2>saw the ball go in, and he's seven to twelve

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<v Speaker 2>from the three point line. He's thirteen to twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he shooting. I think he's shooting like forty

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<v Speaker 2>from the three. No, no, he's you're twenty one. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's never been a bad three point shooter. That

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<v Speaker 2>is just about his first year. She was shooting about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Three point right, fine, right, just like like like Zoe right,

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<v Speaker 1>Lonzo ball. Yes, Love was a bad on the dribble shooter,

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<v Speaker 1>very great spot up shooter.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the totality of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he can't shoot, No, no, no, he can shoot

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<v Speaker 1>if he's wide open like you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, mess Scott, he can. He can wind it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Very great shooter when he's dribbling and doing a little

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<v Speaker 1>step back extra.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not his game. That's not He's not Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not Steph Curry. He's not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>gather like that and let it go and make it

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<v Speaker 2>with consistency. He might hit one or two, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a hit perk man. Ain't nobody trying to hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>Shall Shop just getting ready to pay your bet? Not no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no, I'm gonna need that you wanted to bet?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Perk, Shane, Hey, hey, Shane, you got my money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I leave you know, you and stephen A

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<v Speaker 2>and Perk, y'all had so much to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the Clipper's gonna blow the doze off them?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, what's wrong with them?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Perk? I don't know what the app of the Perk?

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't he do? I mean, he stay down in

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<v Speaker 3>Boutmon all the time now and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's dragging our water down on Nasha water down in

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<v Speaker 2>Beaumont and Galvesta, and he just forgot, He just done

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<v Speaker 2>forgot about Go James.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, we only had one interaction, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna last go much longer. Janay if you

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<v Speaker 2>keep talking crazy about Go James and Stephen Ayre, I

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<v Speaker 2>told you he when you ball then Boston they got

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<v Speaker 2>that deer down hate for Lebron jam You can't shake that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, coup ho apart. I mean, I know he

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<v Speaker 2>gave it to you when you was in Boston. He

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<v Speaker 2>gave it till you went to an ok See, he

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<v Speaker 2>gave it to you again. I mean, well, have you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta let that's been like a decade ago. They go

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<v Speaker 2>even the half fields and the McCory that has made

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<v Speaker 2>the millions. They ain't fighting no more. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>that was as good. That's Lebron. That is Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what makes him great is to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to summons it up in the fourth quarter when they

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<v Speaker 2>when you And that's the thing Gil with a team

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<v Speaker 2>or a player, it doesn't matter if you had fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>can you give me ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you give me.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve in the fourth when you absolutely have to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad they were able to finish this off

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<v Speaker 2>because you know what they're gonna say, yeah he did that.

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<v Speaker 2>They were down, but nah, they came all the way

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<v Speaker 2>back and we saw big buckets. We saw Anthony Davis

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<v Speaker 2>chip in, we see a rut chip in, we see

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<v Speaker 2>d Lo chip in, We.

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<v Speaker 1>See guys making plays. But Lebron, I mean I did

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<v Speaker 1>not see this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, bro, I need you to be a

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<v Speaker 2>more aggressive because he shot a high percentage.

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<v Speaker 3>He just didn't have a whole bunch of shots. Yeah, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I still got that memory of that first half, and

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, uh, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was ready to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I was ready to leave that halftimem ain't even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lie to you. Yeah, this is when I came to

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<v Speaker 1>see Now I got here all these Clipper fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hey, but they ain't got an old Clipper. Darryn.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you ain't celebrating Marcella's Wiley. You ain't got nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to celebrate. I don't want to hear nothing about Paul

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<v Speaker 2>George because y'all know every year, at some point in

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<v Speaker 2>time he might miss the entire playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>So will kawhit.

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<v Speaker 2>So this notion about, oh if we'd have had them

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<v Speaker 2>go back and hick the history since they've been there?

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<v Speaker 2>How many times the meaningful games have you had them

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<v Speaker 2>or both of them? You know what's happening. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Change twenty one years. I think you're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>I You know, look they talking about he wants a

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<v Speaker 1>three year deal, whatever, what he is, whatever he's asking for,

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<v Speaker 1>You can't pay him enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Because who else you're gonna replace? Who you gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>in that jersey? I'm obviously not. Who wants to wear

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three after he's warned and they've retired six around

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<v Speaker 2>the league? Who wants to wear twenty three after he'd

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<v Speaker 2>award even if you could wear thirty two, or you

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<v Speaker 2>could wear thirty four, or you could wear eight or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, a thirty three, why would you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you want to wear thirteen a Chamberla's number?

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<v Speaker 3>What now you can hey, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm just gone from from my little birdies, my

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<v Speaker 1>little birdie's you know that's flying out there. They not

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<v Speaker 1>too happy that he want to come back two more years,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know that's it's a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh yes, what is gonna be?

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<v Speaker 3>What three years?

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<v Speaker 2>Like one eighty one, fifty one eighty because he's making.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's making next year, Uh, he has a player

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<v Speaker 1>option at about fifty one and a half fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>nine fifty two million.

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<v Speaker 3>So if he opts out, obviously he's looking to get

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<v Speaker 3>a raise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you do a two year deal plus a

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<v Speaker 2>player option, well at sixty five sixty six million, at

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<v Speaker 2>forty two thirty nine, at forty one forty two years

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<v Speaker 2>of may you know damn well he picking that up?

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<v Speaker 3>Where else you gonna go?

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<v Speaker 1>Make sixty two sixty five million dollars yelling excuse me?

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<v Speaker 1>And forty two years a man and forty two years

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<v Speaker 1>of age, and right now, you know his greatness basically

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<v Speaker 1>has Lakers handicap, and yeah, I'm right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's one of those things is you're in the bind.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't trade them, you look dumb, right, All hell

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.760
<v Speaker 1>breaks loose if you trade them. And so it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things you were just rather than hen retire

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<v Speaker 1>and just let him come off the books, let him

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<v Speaker 1>finish his way.

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<v Speaker 3>The longer he stays there, he fifty million, and you

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<v Speaker 3>just be like, come old.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be it would be a lot easier if

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<v Speaker 2>he was given you Vince Carter, or if you've given

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<v Speaker 2>you Dirk Nubisky numbers in this year. But he's outscored

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<v Speaker 2>every other player combined that's played in their twenty first season.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's still and he's still giving you. At no

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<v Speaker 2>point in time did any of the greats playing in

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<v Speaker 2>year twenty one. They're one on a handful. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously during the Hall of Fame, Robert Patson in the

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame, Dirk's in the Hall of Fame. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think of who else played. I think Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Willis twenty one years Kevin's not in the Hall. Vic

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<v Speaker 2>Carlon has the potential to be in the hall. But

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<v Speaker 2>at no point in time could they give you this

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<v Speaker 2>what he gave you to night, At no point in

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<v Speaker 2>time where they he's averaging twenty five, seven and eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's it's hard guilt. Yeah, it's gonna be hard.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what he's doing now, that's where the

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<v Speaker 3>future is going. He's given the blueprint to last this long. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you know this, but I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came in and Kenyan Martin reminded me today,

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<v Speaker 1>back around two thousand and seven, do you know we

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<v Speaker 1>had outside companies coming in, you know, testing our energy levels?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, I don't know if you guys did that

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, testing our energy levels to see how

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<v Speaker 1>much production we're pushing out and how fast were recovering?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, And.

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<v Speaker 1>This goes through the load management. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>media knows that. For a long time. Uh, players wore chips,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how you worked a little things.

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<v Speaker 3>They left, Yes, they did that. They have it in

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<v Speaker 3>their hell, they have it in their shoulder fans. Now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so they determined how long players.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going to practice do to what the output is

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<v Speaker 1>pushing out, right, So once you hit a threshold of

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<v Speaker 1>what they expect from your body, you're done.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say somebody like Westbrook and Giannis, they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Okay, his body tippers are going to hit a

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<v Speaker 1>lot higher than someone else's because the way they moved. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>players are getting load management in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So back then, there was a time I know this

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<v Speaker 1>like right after because when I got to Orlando, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time that I was getting blood tested. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they can tell me exactly what I'm supposed to eat.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you're a lot of sugar, a little bit of fish,

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit yeah, And a few months we got

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<v Speaker 6>blood tested regulated, so we know what we're.

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Supposed to actually put in our body. So talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the low management and lasting. It's all the machine now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it has nothing to do with the players. Like

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<v Speaker 1>even in practice, players twenty minutes and the practice like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get off the court. Yeah, yeah, you're done,

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well no, no, no, no, Now when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think about it, when you're trying to break

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<v Speaker 1>a starring lineup or get some minutes, you do it

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<v Speaker 1>in practice and they're like no, no, no, No, your

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes is upsit down right. So seeing Lebron today,

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<v Speaker 1>we will see the future playing twenty something years at

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<v Speaker 1>this high level.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's what I mean. That's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, considered, a lot of the physicality that used

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the NBA is no longer there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to see players play a lot longer, especially

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to see these quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not saying they're gonna be Tom Brady, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna see a lot more guys get into their

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<v Speaker 2>upper teams because of the physicality, the punishment that you

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:14.120
<v Speaker 2>used to put on the quarterback, landing on top of them,

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.919
<v Speaker 2>driving him into the ground, hitting them, spearing them with

0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the helmet, even the hitting after they released the ball

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.760
<v Speaker 2>they take they've taken that out of the ball game.

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<v Speaker 2>And even some of the other players, the defensers, receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't punish. The intimidation factor is that they've tried

0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 2>to penalize it out, find it out of the ballgame.

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<v Speaker 2>But for Lebron James to be playing at this level

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not like you know, like Kareem Kareem with

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<v Speaker 2>Mosey on down. He's a big you know, he get down. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>he get to rebound passing the magic either they got

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the break or they put out. Okay, well we gotta

0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>wait the cap come on down, all right, Cap? What

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.680
<v Speaker 2>block you going on? Okay? Hey, you go to Hey,

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.159
<v Speaker 2>you go one side of the other. You throw it

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 2>to the hand. He turned around, throw the sky hook.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James is playing thirty seven played thirty seven minutes tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's pushing. He's getting up and down. He's still

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 2>chasing down. He's still playing at a high level. Now,

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 2>obviously the back to back, he's not going to play

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the front end of a back to back or the

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<v Speaker 2>back end of a back to back.

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<v Speaker 3>If we understand that, nobody should.

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Expect Lebron James to play in year twenty one to

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<v Speaker 2>play a back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I mean, listen, we talked about the nineties, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a lifestyle right.

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<v Speaker 3>Back then.

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<v Speaker 1>If if you they were little partiers, little drinkers, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dennis, Right, we're gonna pall far. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>more those type of guys in the NBA. Now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in the early two thousand, same thing big change, this

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and this right they.

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<v Speaker 3>Hain't got all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys now get to look at where everyone fel

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and say, are okay, he started his diet at thirty

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>eight or thirty seven or thirty four. I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>it at twenty five. Correct, I'm gonna start at twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start going to bed here, I'm gonna start.

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<v Speaker 1>So the guys now looked at where everyone fell and said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you took yoga here, kareem. Okay, I'm gonna start taking

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.199
<v Speaker 1>yoga too. I'm gonna start taking the plates too. So

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 1>these guys are keeping their bodies a little bit longer

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>because they're paying attention to greatness and what made greatness great.

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.360
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, gil guys are looking now, theoretically,

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Jason Tatum can theoretically make a billion dollars in his career. Yeah, guys,

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be it's not gonna be absurd to

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 2>believe that a guy that's like a Jason Tatum or

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Luca or ant Man that in fifteen years can have

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>made a billion dollar in pay. But Jayson Tatum's gonna

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 2>get a contract, damn there four hundred million yeah, and

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 2>he's going twenty five, twenty six years of eighty so

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 2>that so now he goes against another one at thirty

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>thirty one, another four hundred million. So now in twenty

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years he's made eight hundred nine hundred million dollars.

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 2>So guys are looking like, hold on, I understand. Yeah,

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I got business ventures that that's gonna set me up.

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 3>But I can still play.

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I can play this game that I love, take care

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 2>of my body and still grow this portfolio, make a

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, do another three four hundred million off the court.

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I think guys are looking and like you said, they

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 2>see a wise man love learn from other's mistakes. A

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 2>fool will learn from his own. The wise man, like

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 2>you said, are looking man Lebron James had Mike Mosilla said,

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 2>at year one or two he was having a personal

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.439
<v Speaker 2>chef at this, this and this, and he had this

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and Okay, so that's what it's gonna take. Maybe I

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>know everybody is not gonna get a billion dollar shoe deal.

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's not gonna have a a signature pe a shooting,

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 2>but three four five hundred million dollar contracts. Look at yo,

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>what's y're gonna get in the next two two years,

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna get five on a million. Yeah, you see,

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>like the guy likes somebody like yogis about five years,

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 2>he'd be with thirty four.

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 3>So he's not that guy. Well he's not. You're telling

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 3>about the ant man. The ant man's because yeah, those

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 3>are the guys like that's gonna be touching the billions.

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 3>The billions, Yes, because you.

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Know they got they got the the style of play. Yes,

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>they have the game, the marketing right, and they're they're

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>they're here at the right time. Yes, because Lebron just

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 1>thinking Lebron had it, came in into year two team

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>in twenty ten and he played twenty one years.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna make two billions. He's gonna make two be

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>because look at the numbers. So his max his first

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>MAX contract. You know, I remember when Mike Conley got

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:09.959
<v Speaker 2>a contract. It like he was like one hundred and

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 2>thirty million, Like, oh my gosh, Now you get one

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty million dollar contract.

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>That's in two years. It ain't a five year deal.

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Li'sten two year deal.

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 3>My first My first deal was.

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Six year, sixty four million right as a second second

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>round player when I sign my deal Kobe Bryant and

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the max players was seventy nine million. They were seven years,

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy nine million, six year. So I was like, by

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the time I came in just be averaging eighteen, I

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>was only fifteen million dollars less than a max player. Wow, right,

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>that money creep up fast and he does.

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's uh So in the fourth quarter, Lebron James

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>had nineteen points on five made three. The Clippers had

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>sixteen points on one May three. Great game for the Lakers.

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 2>They needed that. That's the last time the Clippers will

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 2>play the Lakers as the home team in the building.

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Next year obviously they moved to their new building. It's

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be interesting to see. Huh did you say what

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 2>you said the Clippers as a home team.

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Brother, They wasn't a home team. That was a Laker

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 3>crownd they listen, I don't know. Listen. Listen.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>The reason Clippers never have a home game against the

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Lakers because they are the.

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Clippers in the LA.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>So all the Lakers show up to get them front

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>rows for them cheap seats.

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Go into a Laker game, cost your arm, and.

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen, I got a I got a suite for

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>eight thousand dollars whenever that same suite costs me about

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I might even I

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>might even get court side tickets to the Clippers game.

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>That a this Lakers, this Lakers bad you talk about

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you talk about probably about three quarters to a million

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>dollars for every day.

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Uh. But it was a good game. Congrats to the Lakers.

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Big win.

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 2>They needed that. Now they got some games at home

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 2>over there. I think their home the next the at

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>least the next week, but they they needed this win.

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Now it's time for our first segment of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called news Cap. Let's take a listen. Scotty Pipping

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>now back in on MJ as to go. Let's take

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>a listen to what Scotty had to say about MJ.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 3>On this on their Hardest Grant Loop Longley Tour. Was

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Michael the best of the greatest even h for sure.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean you look at the m vps that he

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 5>was able to achieve, But I think it was all

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 5>brought from us being successful as a team. Obviously something

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 5>one is gonna brings accolades home. But yeah, he was

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 5>the greatest player, definitely in Byti.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay when did when did At first it was Michael,

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 2>then it was Lebron and then he said all these

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>things in his memoir about Michael, And now he's back.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Now he's back, on on on what's okay?

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 3>What's he selling? What he got out there? But he got?

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Does he got a wine? Does he got a book?

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Does he got a newspaper? Is he selling cars? What's

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 2>he selling?

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>He has a last name called Pippin, right, pippin them

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Pippins is tripping right now. They chasing that Jordan blood.

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>He got his wife out there leaving and coming back.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't, she doesn't realize. Goddamnit. I need the Jordan

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>brand now now, the real pipping.

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 3>No bulls to her realize, No, no, no, no, no, you

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>need bull His ass is back, mister Jordan. I just

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 3>think that just with the pipping, you just gotta follow

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Michael Jordan at this point. God, dang, I'm just trying.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to I'm just trying to figure out

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>if you feel a way, you feel a way. There's

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>nothing I feel a certain way about a certain player,

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 2>no matter what that what happens between me and said player,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't change it. Because you and I might have

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 2>had a fallen out, that doesn't change what you've done.

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't change how I feel about you. I might

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 2>not like your ass personally, but what you did on

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the field, what you did on the court, what you

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>did on the baseball.

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Diamond or the field, that doesn't change. So I'm just

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out, well, what I mean fall the flip.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I've seen fish. I had fish caught on the bank

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that did less flopping than this.

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 3>They listen, they listen. That's the problem with being number two.

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Nobody cares about number two and three and four. I'm sorry, right,

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>we didn't come. Hey, we didn't come to see u

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>o this. Everybody came there to see Michael Jordan.

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, I'm trying to figure out who in the

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 2>hell else could have played. I don't give it them,

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>but i mean, if you really think about it, who else.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Could you put beside Jordan?

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 2>If you take whomever else did you have on my rushmore,

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>if you put them beside Jordan, especially especially now, it

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>might cause see, let's just say, for the sake of argument,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>gil Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan. But he ain't got no shoe,

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>so he got he got regular shoes and he ain't

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>got no air in the shoe.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 3>And he can't fly, but he's still Michael Jordan.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just one of those things where I think they

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>thought that they were gonna get off and reality kicked in,

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>because if you listen to why they were mad, it

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>was some dumb reasons.

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Horace Grin. Oh, they didn't. They didn't.

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>They didn't tell me that. They didn't say that I

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>talked back to Michael Jordan. I wanted the world know

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>that I talked back to Michael Jordan. So you think

0:31:56.360 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>they was gonna spend fifteen minutes on a doc for

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you to talk back to Michaels. We don't care about

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you talking back to Michael Jordan's sorry something?

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 3>What's wrong with you? Ay? You average? I don't know

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 3>what you average.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>But obviously we didn't care because they done traded your

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>ass and bring in somebody else and they still won

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>three championships. This is funny, See, like, who do they

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>think they The problem with the toy is besides pipping

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the rest of y'all, no one cared.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you and your goggles can get the hell on.

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing with Luke is that he would saying,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like Jordan said, you know, he gave Luke a compliment

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>against Utah. I think he had like fourteen points in

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the first quarter. He said, Luke, you play it unbelievable.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>They end up losing the game by thirty and Luke

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>had fourteen in the first quarter and he finished the

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>game with fourteen and he said, that's the last time

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you a compliment. The only problem that I had,

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>the only problem that I had.

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Jordan said what he said, he did, what

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 3>he did. We knew.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm old enough to remember Jordan, So I

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't really obviously behind the scene was great, but when

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 2>he brought Scotty Pippen into it, because he wasn't there,

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>when Scotty wouldn't go back into the ball game. So

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that's a part of his story.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's like me and you. It's like me

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and you. It's like me and you, Gil and you

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>do something like the incident that happened, and it happens

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>before Shannon gets there. But I do my story and

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.959
<v Speaker 2>I include you in it. Like, man, you wasn't even then.

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Why the hell you talk about what help and what

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>happened and you weren't even there. Now, obviously he had

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>great insight. I'm sure you know he was still talking

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the field.

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have no great relationship, so I know he

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>ain't get no information from Jay Krause, but he still

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>had guys on the team, and I'm sure that was

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>friendly with Mike, of course, But so yeah, he could.

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Have left it out. I heard pipping and Pippin's argument

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is valid, but it's not reality, right. I don't know

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>why you're drawing up a play for this guy. I'm

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Scottie Pippen, I'm missing, I'm in the m v P.

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>That's all great, but are you a finisher? Do you

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>hit game winners? Do you take big shots?

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Some of you? Some guys just are not that guy? Right?

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 3>If Westbrook has the.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Private saying, well, I'm Russell Westbrook, I'm averaging a triple double.

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I need to take the last shot. You don't.

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>No, you don't don't not right, Ben, No, you do

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>not right?

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Be honest.

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Come on, God damn it, I got dame.

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Take that last shot, you know what I mean.

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>So what he's saying is valid because of the name,

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>But kno valid because of your skill. Right, he drew

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>this is the coach, y'all got championships. He drew the

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>player for the guy who had the best chance of

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>making it. And sorry you and the fact that this

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is a three time MVB NBA champ and you refuse

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to come on, come in the game.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Don't letting me know that, right because guys narratives. Yeah,

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 3>you see a lot of people perception of him though.

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.919
<v Speaker 3>You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 3>refuse Gil. You can't refuse to go.

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Into the game. Okay, they draw the play up. The

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>player ain't coming to me. I ain't running no route,

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I ain't going that. What Now you see why I

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>have ah Now you see why I have a problem

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>with the eighties in the nineties, because the narrative about

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the guys today Primadonna's and this, and I'm like, wait,

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>hold on, do you guys know who you were when

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you got playing?

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 3>The problem is Gil because social media. Then if a

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 3>player did that today and said, oh y'all do y'all.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Do If y'all have said I'm not going in the game,

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>if y'all giving.

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 3>The ball of day, there would be a fucking uproar. Yes,

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>but you did the same thing.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>So I'm the type of guy like, hold on, I'm

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>going to raise my and and say I'm gonna call

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you did it too.

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 3>Sir Gil.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 2>A lot of what the players are, the players and

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 2>the old are resentful of is the power and the

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>money that today's players have. And even Michael Jordan did

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>not have the power of Steph Curry, of Lebron James

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 2>because he tried. There's when Lebron James was in his prime,

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 2>when he was at Cleveland. If they can make it,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>if they was willing to somebody was willing to trade.

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 2>There's not a player that Jared Crofts like, nah, you

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 2>don't tell us who the draft. We're gonna get who

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>we want and we don't want no more of them. Sorry,

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>North thro a lot of players and know he can't.

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so the players then they're rej they're they're

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>resentful because the players can move freely. M m Michael Jordan,

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 2>that couldn't go nowhere. You're like, you have to play

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 2>for me, you don't play at all. It's really that simple.

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>But that's the thing. We have the power because of

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 3>you guys.

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you little power that you guys had because the

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>generation before you, the generation before you, it's a it's

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a trickle effect, right. If you listen for the older guys,

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 1>when Michael Jordan made that thirty million a year, what

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you think.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 3>They were saying, Yeah, are you making seats?

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Like every generation hates the next week this generation right

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>now making fifty million and then they gotta start making

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>seventy five with one hundred. They're like, man, it's that's

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that's light, man. Everyone moves the needle and do their

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>part right. And the fact that when you guys throw

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>shots at them, you have somebody who's research too that says,

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>hold on, I'm gonna throw shots back, right, I'm gonna

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.879
<v Speaker 1>throw shots back. You're calling us Prima Donna's. Hey, there's

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a there's a group called, uh Detroit Pistons. Yeah, he said,

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>y'all was Prima Donna's too, and y'all had the rule

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>because they was bullying y'all. Y'all all won championships, not

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>with your team. You won championships with our team. You

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>bought all our players, but you let you let Isaiah

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Thomas song. He gonna say, Well, if you look at

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the Bulls team when they won. Now, look, don't that

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>look like the Detroit Listens freaking roughed up by our

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>own teammates, You know what I mean?

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:20.720
<v Speaker 3>So there's history.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just got to enjoy the game, no matter

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>how it looks. It's not gonna look the way it

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>looked when you played it. It's okay to gil, It's okay.

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>It's called evolution.

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Athletes get bigger, stronger, faster, to get more skilled.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 3>The game changed, and it's.

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay it is you would have twenty five years twenty

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 2>years ago, Mark Eaton couldn't be rested soul Victor wimbin Yama.

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 3>That was not a guy like Jannis. But it's called evolution.

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>And guys are guys grow up now and they got

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>A and U and they got coaches. I mean, your

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 2>son probably had a coach where you were an NBA player.

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, you was coaching your son an NBA player

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 2>at five, six, seven years old.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 3>They didn't have that. Their dads wasn't in the NBA.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>They and they didn't making the money that was gonna

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>pay for a personal coach. Now guys can do that

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>on their own if they don't have time to coach

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and train them themselves.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>So guys are better. The sooner you do things, the

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 2>better you're gonna get at it. So I'm not saying everybody, Look,

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 2>there are more guys. If you think about it, think

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 2>about how many guys can shoot the equivalent of Larry

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Bird from the three and Larry Bird was thought of

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 2>as a great three point shooter. Think about how many

0:39:56.239 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>guys got a better percentage. You'd be surprised of how

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 2>many guys got a better percentage. And he won three

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 2>three point competitions to shoot the three ball better than

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 2>he is.

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 3>He did, So it is.

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 2>It is okay, don't I don't get up saying I

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 2>take it for what it is. Hey, Kelsey em and

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>all these guys. Hey give him the credit. Hey E

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>did goat Grom and Gates and all these guys. Hey,

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I did what I did. I love the era which

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I played in, But I'm willing to give guys credit.

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I ain't taking nothing from him, like even with my son,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>right and with Steph Curry. Steph Curry is the best.

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.919
<v Speaker 1>Shooter because his dad was a shooter, and his dad

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>what his dad learned by the time he retired, he

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>instilled it into his son.

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, So same thing with me. Everything I learned, all

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 3>the tricks I.

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Learned and did, and the training I did, I get

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to start my son at twelve with the same mentality.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 3>So now my son has Jason Tatum moves in high school.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>So by the time he gets to the pros, if

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 1>he gets there, his bag and package would be totally

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>different than mine.

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, point of evolution. And that's what people don't understand.

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>The guards of then the Isaiah Tom you have nothing,

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:20.280
<v Speaker 1>no offense.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 3>At six ' to one, you fast and quick and

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 3>sert at six ' four.

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm faster, I'm stronger, I'm more explosive, I'm more dangerous offensively.

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Right, you were very great in your time. Can't take

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>nothing away from you.

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>But what I got to do is I had I

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>got to learn what you did at my sauce at

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>this That's just how it is. Yes, people don't understand that.

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>With the Kobe's, the Jason Tatums, I get. They get

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to look at the package.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and steal everything, steal it, boom and add on

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 3>to it. It's just that's the game. Or they call it.

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 3>In music, they call it sampling.

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 5>And that.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 2>But but Gil and then what I tell guys, I say,

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>guys like when I was in the league, there were

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 2>only a handful of guys myself and Coats uh Nova

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 2>check Brent Jones. They were only a handful of guys

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 2>that could legitimately really when you got down to it

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 2>was just me and me and coach in the in

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the mid nineties that could go get you a thousand

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 2>double digit touchdowns. Now there are more guys that can

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>do with only a handful of could do.

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>So.

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>When Isaiah was handling the ball like he could, they

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 2>two or three guys on the team that can handle

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 2>the ball like Isaiahka and Rod Strickland.

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>With that package, you got several guys they got a

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 1>package like that. Now I'm not saying that, but look

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>at Kyrie.

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 2>We didn't think we'd ever see a guy like a

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Rod Strickland, or a guy like Isaiah or a guy like.

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Jason Williams and Kyrie. What Kyrie could do with the

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 3>ball is and one.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Harlem globe trottigh and he can finish with either hand

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 2>at the rim and even three level score at the

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 2>paint at the rim, either hand mid rays three. Finally

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:11.720
<v Speaker 2>he go to the free throw lines gonna make somewhere

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 2>between eighty seven and ninety percent of his shots. But

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of guys that can do what

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 2>only a hand full could do back then. And I

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know why they don't want to give them credit.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 2>It's called evolution. Your kids probably are smarter and can

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 2>do things easier than what you could.

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, I know my kids.

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Look, they might not have the depth, but I'm talking

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>about this like general knowledge. Main't them kids the work,

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 2>the school work that they were doing. Man, they doing

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 2>stuff in the third and fourth grade, the hell I

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 2>was doing in the high school.

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had that.

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I could do that hall working like that. I got

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>some hallwork. I said, Okay, I call you a tutor.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't help you. You're gonna fail the class now.

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>But just like in football, at some point, as a quarterback,

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a door a switch thrower. There's gonna

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>be a guy, and then once the one comes in,

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>everyone after him will be taught to throw with their

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>right end their left just as accurate. That's coming. That's

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the evolution, you know what I mean. And I don't

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>think people factor in any of that. Like I remember

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 1>when I came in two. I came in two thousand

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.959
<v Speaker 1>and one, and I remember my first time against John

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Stockton and Gary Payton, right, I frightened because the ideal

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>of what I used to watch, Gary Payton getting that glove,

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 1>get that little smirky boom. What happened was after I

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>got that first hit, Nah, theyin't not like that, right,

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the things that they're trying.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 3>To do that doesn't work against me.

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 1>So first time I said, all right, hey, Antoine, hey,

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>dip out, I'm about to see how fast he really is, right.

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 3>And took off on them. Meet me at the rim, like,

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, he can't even stay in front of me.

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Now you look at year two, Gary Payton, John Stockton,

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it's boom, boom boom. Then from there, all these defensive

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>rules that they were in their non existent and is outdated. Right,

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it's an outdated system. It was like people don't realize.

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 1>People think AI changed the point guard position. AI was

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a shooting guard. I was the point guard that changed it.

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I was the aggressor in it.

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 3>I was there. It was me.

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I was the top scorer at twenty eight twenty nine.

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Number two was James Mike James. Number three is Mike Bibby. Right,

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>those think about the names I'm saying, right, Mike James,

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Mike Bibby. At eighteen and nineteen and seventeen, those were

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the It was still those type of guards. You know,

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Jason Kidd, you know Tony Parker. It wasn't guys that

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>are trying to score thirty on you, right, these guys

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:09.800
<v Speaker 1>are trying to run offense.

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to embarrass you.

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>So how are you going to play defense against me

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>when you got to run your team and then you

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>got to play defense against.

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 3>A dude who's trying to score like a Kobe Bryant.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Right now, every guard is that, Yes, all these guys

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 2>are two's masquerading its points. Darrin Fox ain't no point.

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>James Harden is a two. Russ was a too, all

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 2>is Steph Curry is a two. These guys Draymond Russ

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>offense and go to State. Yeah, Steph is the two.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Those guys A two was masquerading. Give those guys credit.

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 2>But when you when you when you look at what

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 2>they've been able to do, uh evolution. I just wish

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and and and I would just wish the old guard

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>would give the new guard credit because they make it

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>seem like they bombs and they're not, and they're not.

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 3>They gonna say what they want. I know one thing

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 3>they can do. Guard them. You can't guard them.

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>The reason you can't guard them is because y'all didn't

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>play like that.

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.720
<v Speaker 3>For you to even know these movements. You never played

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 3>backbelling in the whole game.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>You never played with a guy like James Harden sitting

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>there trying to be No, this ain't that.

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Bring it back down. Let the big man get the

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>cross screen, pass it down to her.

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>You didn't no, no, no, John Stocked him. I'm gonna

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>walk you all the way down to the free throw

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>line and then set the pick right here. If I

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>walk you down to the free throw line, you can

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>post up.

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Little man.

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.919
<v Speaker 1>This ain't no like job. You can't even post Steve Nash.

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the block now. Now the matrix got

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a gardment because I keep posting up this little guard.

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Come on, John, bring old. Let's go work this by

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Switch off? Come on, Matt harpering Now you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put that harpering on me because John Stock too little.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going one on one with you because you

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<v Speaker 1>are two guard, not fast enough to be a point

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<v Speaker 1>guard right right now, me trying to guard someone like

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden when he has to be stopped by the

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<v Speaker 1>twos and the threes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have a real point guard trying to guard

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<v Speaker 2>right and and he's hard in the six, four sixty five.

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<v Speaker 2>And but here's the thing. These guys now got handles,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them. I mean, look at hard they'll be

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 2>do do. And then once he developed that step back,

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<v Speaker 2>that side step three, which everybody seems to have added

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<v Speaker 2>to their bag.

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 3>They gotten that tool out of his toolbox and added

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<v Speaker 3>it to theirs. How do you stop it? Because you

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<v Speaker 3>know he could get by you. Still he's slythery.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not as slithery as he once was, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>as explosive as he once was, but he's still explosive

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<v Speaker 2>enough to get by you. And then when you black

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<v Speaker 2>up off him, guess what he just these steps back

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<v Speaker 2>is shoes to three. And now you're just said his

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<v Speaker 2>mercy just hopes he miss it because you're getting wide

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<v Speaker 2>open looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just it's arguing. It's arguing with people's vision

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<v Speaker 1>of when they first seen basketball for the first time. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like anything like when you've seen it for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, that's all you know what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the purest form for you as an individual.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since then it is considered a water down version

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<v Speaker 1>of what was introduced to you. That's life how it

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<v Speaker 1>was introduced to you. Back in the eighties, eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty forty five, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way the game was played was the purest for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so everything after that considered its water down, right

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that it says water down. It is not like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the eighties is not the toughest. They are considered

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<v Speaker 1>weak compared to the seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>In the sixties, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you get to get clothes line and I can

0:49:57.719 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, punching your face and then it's just a.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that era. They had to clean it up

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<v Speaker 3>for TV, right, so yes, he got involved. It was cleaned.

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>That was clean, and then the nineties a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>clean of two thousand clean and now you have an

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining game.

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<v Speaker 3>This game now is.

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<v Speaker 1>Entertainment. It's not basketball, right, this is entertainment. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put butts in the seats. I'm I'm in the business

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<v Speaker 1>of selling a show. So you can say, oh, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't play no DEFs old, they don't do this. You

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<v Speaker 1>can say it all you want. Adam Silver gonna say this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been looking into uh what you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to say? Oh, yeah, we've been looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Into way you know, we maybe we've killed it, maybe

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 2>we've kielded it too far in the offensive favor. Maybe

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to find a way to get defense back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob, she ain't doing nothing. How you gonna how you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a flaw in something that's paying people fifty

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<v Speaker 1>sixty million dollars? Yeah, uh, fifty sixty million dollars and

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you think they think it's a flaw.

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:08.720
<v Speaker 3>My bank account says, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Every day is like we just like we're playing your

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Donas Haslam says, age plays a factor in his opinion

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<v Speaker 2>about Lebron Your Donna's. Haslam said, the only reason why

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<v Speaker 2>MJ is my goat is because, like he said, we

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 2>watched them growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm older than Broun. He can't be my goat.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that a lot, especially with comedians, because even

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 2>current comedians really don't put Chappelle as their goat. They

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 2>normally go back to prior. They go back to Eddie

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Murphy or they'll go to Red Fox, They'll go to

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Bernie Mack, they'll go to Robin Harrison, they go to

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<v Speaker 2>George Carlin. You know, it's always a lady Bruce. They

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 2>always go back. He says, he's my contemporary.

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<v Speaker 3>I had JB.

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<v Speaker 1>Smooth on, had a lot of comedian I've had a

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of comedians on Tommy Davidson, and they always go

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:02.959
<v Speaker 1>back a generation before him. Yeah, as opposed to saying

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that's a contemporary or peer is on their Mount

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Rushmore or their goat.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your take on that? I get what your Donnason said,

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't got no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't play. I didn't play against Travis Kelsey. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play against Grom. I was leaving the league when

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Gates was there, but he didn't really play much my

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 2>last year. I played a few years against Gonzo. So

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 2>that's that's kind of like, uh, I played one year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Ozzie retired after my rookie. My rookie year,

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.919
<v Speaker 2>I saw Ozzie play. But I remember Winslow Big Winslow senior,

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Kellen Winslow senior. But I get what you're Donnisy said.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like bro I'm older than him. He can't be

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<v Speaker 2>my goat. I played with him. He contemporary, but that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a competitive nature of who he is, right, And

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of players you don't want to name

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:55.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody that is still playing with you, you played against

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:59.359
<v Speaker 1>that's probably giving you fifty something, right, I don't want

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 1>him to be my my goat, right, So you go backwards, right,

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's just that's just how it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever you hear a.

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Player talk, when you hear the guys talk today and

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they have Kobe as their goat, they didn't play against Kobe, right,

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it was on the end of it, right, So they're

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>coming in the same so they wasn't really a competitor

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like that. The real competitors when they retire, they're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, all right, you know he Bean was a killer. Okay,

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 3>he's the goat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's up there, right, So you still get the respect,

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's usually after.

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<v Speaker 3>The person's done, really done, retired

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<v Speaker 1>A few years, reality kicks in and then they can

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<v Speaker 1>give you their their honest opinion.