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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred. 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions and occasion didn't notice. I'm not broke. 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here we go, 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. Welcome, I'm your host, Rashan McDonald appeared 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: on the show to day is comedian co host of 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: the very popular TV one talk show Sister Circle Live Canada. 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: Dancy syndicated TV producer, founder and CEO of sun Wise Media. 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: Recall o' handy Chick fil A franchise e Zach Thomas, Farmer, 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: NFL player of Fox NFL kickoff show, co host V 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: seven apparel creator my man Michael Vick. I've set the stage. 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: It's time to start. What else we're gonna do here? 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: My guest is already in studio. I love it when 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: I have live guests in studio. My next guest began 46 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: his leadership journey as a chicken farmer, which I love 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: that you went from more chicken farmer so not owning 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: a Chick fil A. Attended the U. S Military Academy 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: at West Point, served as an Army ranger instructor, and 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a college pastor, but none of this adequately prepared him 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: for the challenge of leading a team a one hundred 52 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: young adults when he became a Chick fil A franchise 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. Please welcome to Money Making 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: Conversation the author of Leader Farming, Zach Thomas. It's great 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: to be here. Great to be back. Absolutely, well, I'm 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: really excited your local you know, I broadcast the show 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: out of Atlanta, and I always like to bring talented 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and your brand of success. I think it's really 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: important because of the fact that you're dealing with a 60 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: working generation. I think that gets uh gets a bad rap, 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the emmenial generation. And I think it's important that we 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: talked about that. We talked about it last time because 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: that's the basis of your book, Leader Farm, which is 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: a really good book. If you if you're confused of 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: how to uh get motivate, engage that generational group of 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: people that are dominating the workforce, and some of them 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: I read the article of the Days saying that that 68 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: whole workforce is hard to find. You you tended to 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: hire adults that in that work field of fast food 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: and I called chick fil as in the genre of 71 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: fast foods, and so more adults are being hired in 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: that world what used to be a world that was 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: strictly in that you know, young teenager to mid twenty 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: age range. So why is that, Zack, you know, I think, 75 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: UM just to mention though that if we do focus 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: on hiring adults. That's that's really kind of an unsustainable plan. 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Like if you're looking at that and saying I'm just 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna hire adults, I'm gonna forget about this generation. You know, 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: you're the future of your hiring needs. Are are are 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: at at risk there? And so you know why is that? 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: Why is that? Rich? Well, you know you've gotta you've 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: got to look at the millennial generation and and even 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: now we're looking at centennials, which is the next generation, 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: and they think a little bit differently as well. Yeah, 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: so you know, millennials are very very idealistic in nature, 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: and I think what we're seeing with centennials is that 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: they're a little bit more pragmatic in nature, and so 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: I think we'll see a little bit more stability with them. 89 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: But you know, I started looking at my overall hiring 90 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: strategy and I said, well, you know, I've got to 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to guilt and manipulate people and try 92 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: to try to coerce people into staying. And so that 93 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: really started my journey of trying to figure out, Okay, 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: well how do I help them grow and become the 95 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: best version of themselves? And so I started thinking about 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, my background as a farmer and growing up 97 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: on a farm. You know, that's what I did every day, 98 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: is to to grow things, and so I thought, you know, 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna help them grow. And when they believe 100 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: that your goal is to help them become the best 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: version of themselves and get them to where they want 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: to be, they're going to stick around a little bit longer. Well, 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: I've always had that philosophy. If anybody who's ever worked 104 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: for me, I always tell them, my goal is to 105 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: make you better for your next opportunity. And that's a 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: that's a real honest philosophy I've always had. And it's 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: really cool because everybody who's ever worked for me has 108 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: always felt that was too hard on them. I always 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: felt I expected too much of them, that I was 110 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: always driving them. But when they always called me back 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: and go thank you, I see it. Now I understand 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: exactly what you were talking about. And that's basically But 113 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: now when I look at your background, you're a military guy, 114 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: you're a pastor, so that's a real conservative I can 115 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: stay conservative relationship that you have with the world. Now 116 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you have these young people, very independent minded, why, well, 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: how do you how how did this guy who's a 118 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: minister who was a military army ranger. Change, because you 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: had to make the adjustment. I did have to make 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: a change, absolutely, and I talked about it in my book. 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: I talked about the pendulum of leadership. And you know, 122 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: if you think about the the far you know one 123 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: one side of the other leadership style, So far left 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: leadership style was the airborne ranger, hard charging, like make 125 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: people cry for their mother kind of kind of leadership. Right. 126 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: And then when I became a college pastor, swung the 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: pendulum all the way over to the far right. And 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: I just developed this philosophy, if you just love everybody enough, 129 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: they'll do the right thing. And I got taken advantage 130 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: of pretty significantly. And so I had to find this 131 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: middle of the road approach, this middle ground approach, and 132 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: the way that I compare it it's a parenting Honestly, 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: I have six children, and so I think about, you know, 134 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: as a parent, my role is to help my children 135 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: grow up and be you know, productive citizens of society. Right. 136 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: But I've got to I've got to hold them accountable 137 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: and I've got to do things to show them I 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: love them. And and so that's really I started thinking 139 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: about it along those roads, and and really the leadership 140 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: style that I've developed it is kind of the middle 141 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: of the road approach. And you think about driving down 142 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: stilar road. You've got a ditch on both sides. Right. 143 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: If you become that hard charging, you know, ranger instructor 144 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of guy, you're gonna drive people away. But if 145 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: you're in the in the right side ditch, then you 146 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: know you're gonna you're gonna become just too lenient and 147 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: people are gonna run all over you. And so really 148 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: the parenting style is what I really I started looking 149 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: back and saying, Okay, well, how am I gonna How 150 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: am I gonna parent my children? And then I started 151 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: looking at well, I've got to develop this this disciplined approach, 152 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: taking from this side, you know, taking from the ranger 153 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: instructor side, taking from my military background. But I've also 154 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: got to love people, and so finding that middle ground 155 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: of holding people accountable but yet helping them know that 156 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: you love them and you care about it. You don't 157 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: have tooth philosophies with my company I have. My company's 158 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: model is live to motivate, and I always tell people 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: stop reading a book and start writing your own book. 160 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: And that's important because I'm hearing that's what you're doing 161 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: with your life. Because when you're writing your own book, 162 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: there's changed. And what the thing that annoys me the 163 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: most about the millennial generation that gets criticized a lot 164 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: because they've taken upon themselves that they want to be entrepreneurs. 165 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: How it's almost how dare you? You have worked for anybody? 166 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: How could you just so you want to be entrepreneurs? Why? Why? Why? 167 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Why is there so much I'm talking about older hate. 168 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, the word haters, it always 169 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: referred to to the younger generation, but this older generation 170 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: is really hating on the millennial generation, which is ages 171 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: eighteen to thirty four. Because technology. I always tell people, 172 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: technology has changed the game. It's allowed you to get 173 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: so much information immediately, so it means that they're they're 174 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: not so much your attention span, but they're available information. 175 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I always tell people this personally. I've taken upon myself 176 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: to leave my cell phone at home now because somehow 177 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: we have a system in our mind that we have 178 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: to take that cell phone with us. If we don't, 179 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: something bad it's going to happen. And so when you said, 180 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: you're making these changes. What was the number one thing 181 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: that that that that occurred in your philosophy that win 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Now I'm hitting in the right direction and dealing with 183 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: this organization or this group of people are just demover 184 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: this eighteen and thirty or four? What? What? What? What? 185 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: What was that game changing for you? Well, my big 186 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: wake up moment was when I got hit by a 187 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: car in October of two thousand eleven. So I don't 188 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: suggest that for anyone. Um. I was literally pedestrian walking 189 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: across the street and got hit by a car. UM. 190 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: But I spent a lot of time sitting on the couch, 191 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, thinking about That's how you developed the book, 192 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: right form, That's where it started, yes, sir, and just 193 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: started spend a lot of time just contemplating thinking about life, 194 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: what really matters and and what kind of legacy do 195 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: I want to leave? Now? What is the process? Let's 196 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: tell everybody what's the process to be a Chick fil A? 197 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Do you own the building? Do you own the land? 198 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Like traditional franchise owners and operators? How does that work? 199 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: It's quite a bit different than traditional franchise opportunities, where 200 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: we don't make the initial investment in the land of 201 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: the building. You know, Chick fil A owns the property, 202 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: they own the building, and we are granted the right 203 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: to operate the franchise in that in that building and 204 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: on that land. And so you know, really, when you 205 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: think about it, it's not so much an asset because 206 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I can't I can't sell my Chick fil A franchise 207 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: when I get ready to retire, I can't leave it 208 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: to my children. But it's a cash flow opportunity. And 209 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: so from a money making conversation, um, so you know, 210 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: you got to think about your your your money making opportunities. 211 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: Is an investment, Is it an asset opportunity or is 212 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: it more of a cash flow opportunity? And in Chick 213 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: fil A franchise ease, it's very much a cash flow opportunity. 214 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: Would that be said? Like a lot of a lot 215 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: of people get in the other McDonald's, the burger keys, 216 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: you him say they own a hundred or they may 217 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: own two hundred. Can that be accomplished under the under 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: the business model of Chick Fila. Can you be a 219 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: part of multiple uh Chick fil a franchises? You can, um, 220 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: but not in that number. And so right now I 221 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: think the most that anyone owns is three and UM 222 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: and those are out in Texas. Actually most of those 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: guys that have three UM. But that is that is 224 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: how um. You know, Truant established a model to where 225 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: he wanted local ownership. You know, with McDonald's franchise, e s, 226 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: I could live in Florida and on thirty McDonald's and Toledo, right, 227 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: but but not in the case of Chick fil A. 228 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: He wants we want local ownership so that we're fully 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: invested in the business. And and that's where you know, 230 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I was previously at Macklin Crossing in Marietta, Georgia, which 231 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: is where very popular. That's where I started, and I 232 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: applied for the opportunity to open the new rock Mart 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: location and where you're count correct, And that's my home, 234 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: that's where I'm from. And so I really I had 235 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: to relocate. I had to give up my franchise in 236 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Marietta because it was too far from the new franchise. 237 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: And so, you know, long term, I want to be 238 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: a multi unit operator. That was another reason why I 239 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: relocated out of the Atlanta market because Atlanta is very, 240 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: very saturated. But moving outside the Atlanta market there's potential 241 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: opportunity for multi unit a little bit more. Okay, cool 242 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: with that being said, Okay, you back to the Leader 243 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: farm in your book. Okay, you have employed people you 244 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: in Marryotta, that's a certain core people, I think, more 245 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: densely populated. Then you're going out to this new location. 246 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: What was the difference in the type of employees that 247 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: you were able to bring on board and that motivation. 248 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think that I'm in a smaller community, 249 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I am in a rural community versus a more urban community, 250 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: and I think that what I'm seeing here is that 251 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: I've got quite a bit more full time folks that are, 252 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, wanting to um be a part of an organization. 253 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: They see the the impact that Chick fil A is 254 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: making in the community and they're like, hey, I want 255 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: to be a part of that. And uh and so. 256 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: But you know, we still have turnover. And that's what 257 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: one of the things I talked about in the book 258 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: is is just to embrace turnover. Because you know, so 259 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: many people, we spend so much time fighting turnover. But 260 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: if we actually embrace it, and we developed systems and 261 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: processes in our business that fully embraced turnover, I think 262 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: we can. We can operate our businesses without guilt and 263 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: manipulation and trying to control people. And that's the whole goal. 264 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, like I said earlier that my 265 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: voice is dominant in the in the on the college campuses, 266 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: it's dominant in the eighteen and three to four age group. 267 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: What would you have to say to to that group 268 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: that gets uh? I think hate it on because they 269 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: want to be entrepreneurs. They see an opportunity, like you 270 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: said earlier off air about they see the Zuckenberg. They 271 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: see these young people who are billionaires and millionaires overnight, 272 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, based on I P O S. What do 273 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: you say to them is the frame of hourly employment 274 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: away to start and then elevate yourself. How do you 275 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: how do you get them to come come to the 276 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: outside the only wage side, right, I would encourage them 277 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: to see, whether it's working at Chick fil A or 278 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: really any other um franchise, opportunity to go in and 279 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: see that as an opportunity to learn business skills, to 280 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: learn things that work ethic, you know, that's that's important, right, 281 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: And so to learn work ethic, to to to establish 282 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: some grit in their daily routine and uh and that 283 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: will set them up for success for their future entrepreneurship 284 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: and uh anything they want to do on their own 285 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: in the future. So you know, if they can they 286 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: just stick in there for a little while and uh 287 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: and try to try to uh learn from from a 288 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: franchise e or from someone that's been in business for 289 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: themselves for quite some time. They can actually learn a 290 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: good bed and so see it as a learning opportunity. 291 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: That's my encouragement to them. And again and that's good 292 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: because I think that you you're learning from a top 293 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: level a small corporation. I always look at every franchise 294 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: as every every as a stand alone because that experience, 295 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: that that that the sales are tied to that particular location. 296 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: So I always look at as a little many businesses. 297 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: So so when you go in there, you gotta market. 298 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Even though it's nationally market, you still gotta market. You 299 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: still gotta have that same customer service, You still gotta 300 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: have the ability to win. But more importantly, developing that 301 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: mindset that you're preaching on the regular basis in uh 302 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: leader farming. That that's being a Chick fil A franchise. 303 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: After being hit by a Carvel made you realize that 304 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: there was change and you have to you know, you 305 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: have to meet in the middle. Absolutely. You know, the 306 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: abillage to say this is where I what have done 307 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: doesn't always motivate the people that you're trying to hire, 308 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: and more importantly, keeping them on board long term is 309 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: the goal. So any any any departing statements, in any 310 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: hype you want to put out for your brain before 311 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: you leave, Zach, Well, I just encourage folks to develop 312 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: a philosophy of leader what do you want to call 313 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: leader farming or whatever you want to call it, But 314 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: it's just it's really just pouring into young people and 315 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: seeing the fruit of your labor through what they're doing, 316 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: and just helping them grow and develop and in turn 317 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: that will actually lead to too great rewards for yourself 318 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: as well. Well. You know, I'm a big fan of yours. 319 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Brought it back on the show, and I like to 320 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: believe it in the fall, you come back on the 321 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: show again because I wanted to know your brand. Guy. 322 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: You know, I want people to understand that this shows 323 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: about creating consistent relationships and I want to build You 324 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: want to let everybody know that what you do is 325 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: important for everybody in America to grab hoole to lead 326 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: the farm. Get it at Amazon and we keep winning. 327 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: We're back with more money Making Conversations with ra Sean McDonald. 328 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Thank will be right back with more from Marsha McDonald 329 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: and money making conversations. Don't touch that down, you say 330 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: to yourself, who calls rushan shell Rickie smiling, You got 331 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: to get out of your own sitting and leave in 332 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: order to grow because of this. Don't get bigger as 333 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: long as inside of the fish boat. Just get bigger 334 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: when you put it in a poet. Ladies and gentlemen, 335 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: please bucking the phone. 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My next 363 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: guest is on the line let's bring them on board. 364 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: A long time we talked, we talked through LinkedIn. But 365 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: it's great because we go all the way back to 366 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: Los Angeles back in the day. My next guest company, 367 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: Sunwise Media, strongly believes that there is a void or 368 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: television or family friendly and aspirational programming directed to African 369 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: American viewers the field avoids. Sun Wise Media produces and 370 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: distributes original and acquired content to broadcast on cable and 371 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: s P O D platforms all over the world. Please 372 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: welcome to money Making Conversation with Carlo Handy. How doing 373 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: call o, sir? How are you? First of all, welcome 374 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: to Roshan McDonald's New World where you met me back 375 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: in the l A days. How you doing? Yeah, I'm good, 376 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you this morning? I'm really good. 377 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Before we get started, please tell everybody about about I 378 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of like summarized it in the intro. But Somewhi 379 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: sun Wise Media, what is that? And then we're gonna 380 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: talk about your journey to get into sun Wise Media. Yeah. So, 381 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: some Wise Media is a you know, production company studio, 382 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: but we specialize in syndicating content and what that means 383 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: is we create our own content. We own the content 384 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: we create, and we distributed to stations around the country 385 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: UM for for consumers to view, basically skipping over that 386 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: going to the network process, going straight to the station's 387 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: absolutely because you have that you because you've developed what 388 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: they say in the resume of respect because you know 389 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: it was that Bouncing network. So please to tell everybody 390 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: exactly what Bounce Network is and the and the and 391 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: the media reach abouts. Yeah. So I started a bounced 392 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: about it a year after they got established doing um 393 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: doing all the original programming and and you know, over 394 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: the last five years, that company grew a lot from 395 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: twenty two million homes too, I believe in you know, 396 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: up in the eighty plus million homes now UM and 397 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: you know, just getting a lot of attraction and popularity 398 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: over the years while I was there, and you know, 399 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: created several shows they're like saying centers and helped do 400 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: some um a lot of the sitcoms that Bentley Evans 401 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: does over there, and it brought the Trumpet Awards over there. 402 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: So we just you know, we're able to do a 403 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: lot of different things that to to create an offering 404 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: for mainly audiences that watch TV over the air you 405 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: know that don't have cable, and you know there's some 406 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: cable carriage every in some areas, but mostly you know, 407 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: for the viewers that are over the air that didn't 408 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: have any African American programming, you know that they could watch. Well, 409 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: that's important that you say, because you know, that's the 410 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: first time I heard that, Because of the fact that 411 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: this because your shows basically you know, at Antanna, you 412 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: you don't have to go through a cable service because 413 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: we're all tied to the direct TV. It feels like 414 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: it is okay, well, but you're saying that it's basically 415 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: free TV, right exactly exactly I mean, and you know 416 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: most free TV is uh you know, also available on 417 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: cable in some cases. But but but but you know, 418 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: just like uh, you know, your radio show for instance, 419 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: if you're driving in your car, if you're on a 420 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: terrestrial station, you get it for free, you know what 421 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: I mean. And so that that's a value to a 422 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, not everybody has, you know, 423 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars of months to pay for cable. So 424 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: so that that's you know, and and not only and 425 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: not not only that. Nowadays people are choosing the stream 426 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: and do other things. Um and so the free offering 427 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: of over the air to rest your radio and TV 428 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: is a supplemental to we know whatever they're getting all 429 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: the cart from Netflix or who or whatever. Okay, like 430 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: Will the Fall with the CEO of Sunwise Media, you know, 431 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: he was former senior vice president of original program for 432 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: Bounds TV. And I always feel like, you know, I'm 433 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: always getting educated on my show because of the fact 434 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: that when you say that, I really didn't realize that 435 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: was the case, because, like I said, I'm tied into 436 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: direct TV. I'm tied into either Warner Cable or Cox 437 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: or Infinity. So I've always just felt I was on cable. 438 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: But you're saying that Bounce TV. That was one of 439 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: the strong selling points is that, like you said, there's 440 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: a difference between terrestrial and there's a difference between X 441 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: and radio service through serious and that's what one of 442 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: the advantages in which enhanced the growth of the Bounced 443 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: TV network. Now, because you now have that relationship, does 444 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: that give you an end to be one of these 445 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: people you can take programming back to Bounce, to to 446 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: to to UH to get on their their network. Are 447 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: That's just one of the assets that you have in 448 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: your two box. Well, I mean over the over the years, 449 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: you know, I worked with BT, I worked with v 450 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: H one, you know, I worked with UM a lot 451 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: of a lot of different stations. And so will build 452 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: a network of I build the network of folks that 453 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: I can reach out to over the years for different 454 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: circumstances and that that that's one of my assets. But 455 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: ultimately the reason why I created this syndication UM. This 456 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: this uh the model that I'm doing now with with 457 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the programming. You know, I'm not the first to do 458 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: it by far, but I feel like, you know, the 459 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: it gives me a little bit more leverage not to 460 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: have to go to too many middlemen to get my 461 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: my content on television. You know, one of the one 462 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: of the things I'm doing now is more of a 463 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: business to business strategy where I'm offering value to these 464 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: stations for it with my content. And you know, in exchange, 465 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, we get to share and split into in 466 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: the in the in the revenue of that content. So okay, 467 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: now you get into the business. You know, Rashan just 468 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: screwed it up on the microphone now, you know, because 469 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: this is money making conversations Now call now, let's talk, 470 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's just tell everybody about this young man. Okay, 471 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: because when you when you become vice president of a 472 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: network like Bounce TV, everybody got a TV idea, everybody 473 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: pitching to you. Now you have a successful production company, 474 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. How do how does an individual 475 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: who's listening to the show, who probably hear it on 476 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: podcasts or here on series exam or here their live 477 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: right now, how do they pitch shows to your production company? 478 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: And how do they get your production company? Sunwise the media? Yeah, 479 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: you can. Anybody can go to some wise media dot 480 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: com and you know, you click the contact us and 481 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: send a note about what you're trying to do. We 482 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: we we typically um, you know, look to have agents 483 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: or you know, people that we know contact us to 484 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: solicit content um because you know it could be overwhelming. 485 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people have ideas, a lot 486 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: of people got ideas, and they act like you stole 487 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: their idea if they pitch it to and not only 488 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: and not only that, though, I think that a lot 489 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: of people have you know, here's what happens. There's a 490 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: term in our industry called MP or MOM. Most often 491 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: pitched you know that there's a there's uh. You know 492 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people have these ideas, these epiphanies in 493 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: their sleep. They wake up they're like, oh, this is 494 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: a great TV idea, but they miss they miss a step. 495 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: They don't research if it's been done before, or maybe 496 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: why it doesn't exist already. And there's a lot of 497 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: different reasons why certain shows don't exist. But you know, 498 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: you'd be surprised how often I get pitched the show 499 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: that's are either already on TV or was on TV 500 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: five years ago, um and um and and and and then, 501 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: or you know it's in development right now. You know, 502 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: you just gotta have the right sauce. So I would 503 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: say this to most people. If you have an idea, 504 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, TV, selling TV shows is not just about 505 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: the idea. You have to package it. So you know, 506 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: packaging it means get you know, assigning a talent to it, 507 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: or a producer that's well known, or a u um 508 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: or some kind of unique access, especially in reality TV, 509 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, some kind of unique assets that only you 510 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: have and that's your show. Those elements make up the show, 511 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: not the idea. Okay, So a guy like Roshan McDonald, 512 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: you know people always coming to me and I always 513 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: because I'm developing shows. Let's do a scenario, and how 514 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: would I come to your company and say, are you 515 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: looking for a certain type of TV show like you 516 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: did mention Doc Johns drop you here with your reality shows? 517 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: What what are you looking for? I hear the word 518 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: family friendly, I hear original content. What are you looking for? 519 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: Just to just to stop people just for just throwing 520 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: I got the next American idol. I got the because 521 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: because let's let's be real about it. Because he already 522 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: says that his successes baits on budgets, bringing in shows 523 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: as a certain cost factor, and also being able to 524 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: a timeline. It's a it's a it's something that you 525 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: know Byron Idline has mastered. It is something that that 526 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: uh that Tyler Perry has mastered and and people are 527 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: using that model consistently. Bounces mastered along with Bentley Evans 528 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: has mastered that and created some very successful sitcoms on 529 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: Bounce Network. If you don't know Bentley Evans, he created Martin, 530 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: he created Jamie Fox. So we're talking successful people in 531 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: his business who have who have been at one level 532 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: finance to the realize these models works at this this 533 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: model works at this level. Tell us how what do 534 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: we bring to you to get your attention media? Well, 535 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: I like things that aren't necessarily always on already on TV. 536 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to do a version of 537 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: something else. So so if it hasn't been televised, if 538 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: it hasn't been exploited in a way where where no one, 539 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: you know, where there's an audience for it, but they 540 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: haven't been able to see it on TV, That's that's 541 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: what I wanna. That's what I want to talk about. UM. 542 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 1: In addition to that, you know, one of the one 543 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: of the things that we've done is, for instance, were 544 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: partnered with another UM entity called Sore Radio to do 545 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: the Gospel Radio Awards and we shot that h this 546 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: past month in in Chicago and now will be coming 547 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: out in fourth quarter. And but that's a unique thing. 548 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: It's an event that already was happening, and you know, 549 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: we brought our cameras, we brought our know how to 550 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: get it produced. And now that's going to be something 551 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: that we do annually. You know, I'm using my influence 552 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: to help you be successful. And Ricarlo, I'm just great. 553 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm just great that you're you're you're succeeded in the 554 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: field that you want to win in. Thank you for 555 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: coming on Money Making Conversations. Get those banners to me 556 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: so I can help promote that Domino tournament. We've been 557 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: back to more money making Conversations. Thank you again for 558 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: calling my show. Hey, this is Tasha Evans and I 559 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: love to eat a great restaurant and more than that, 560 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: I love great desserts. So does ra Sean McDonald. Check 561 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: out his new website that's www. Rashan McDonald dot com. 562 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: That's r U s h i O N and McDonald 563 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: is spelled just like the famous restaurant chain. Guys. Rashauna 564 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: is looking for great bakers for a speaker spotlight. He 565 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: wants to brag on his fans for their incredible baking 566 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: skills on his social media and website. That can be 567 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: your mom, friend, co worker, a relative. Spread the word today. 568 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Visit Rashan McDonald dot com. Rashan McDonald the host of 569 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation, the ever growing, very popular money Making Conversation. 570 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: I say it's popular because people coming video now. I 571 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: used out the big people to come in studios. People 572 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: just show up now. Maybe I said, waiting in the live. 573 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: My next kiss is the comedian and co host of 574 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: TVs one Sister Circle Live. Please welcome to money making conversation. 575 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: She's my good friend. She's been at my house dancing, Yes, 576 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: eating what you're fading me, But now I'm putting that's right. 577 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: And I thought I was gonna come in here and 578 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: there was gonna be another one. No no, no, no 579 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: no no, not because we're not that. I must not 580 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: be family if you don't bring me another pie your family. 581 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: But that's what you do with family, see, because family 582 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: keep expecting things, and don't they say reciprocate because I 583 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: have You know, I have fame. I supposedly have money 584 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: that comes with that fame. So people just always want 585 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: me to go in one direction, but they never if 586 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: you if I give you a turkey leg, I want 587 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: a turkey leg back. Okay, First of all, you have 588 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: to take what you well. First of all, you can't. 589 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: You can't take what people don't have. I don't have 590 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: a turkey leg to give you. I can't make a 591 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: pie because I don't know how to make a pie. 592 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: But I'm here in your building and your nice studio, 593 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 1: here with the man with a good year to you. 594 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like you know, they don't don't don't tell 595 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: people what they casey hear me talk. You know, I 596 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: want the ladies to know that Rushan has surrounded himself 597 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: with some really handsome men. Man with a good beer Adam. 598 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: I told him I canna be his eve. And this 599 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: man right here, hey, when you set your name with 600 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: that good gap of his teeth down, he's lost sixteen pounds, 601 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: by the way, you better fool out that way. And 602 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: like a man with a good gaping team because I 603 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: have one straight hand, he's you know, he's making that famous. 604 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: He is. The gap is famous on the Texas Southern 605 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: University Houston Boy, not on ABC Good Morning in America. 606 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: And I believe that man is single. Now, well, I 607 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: don't know about all that. I'm not gonna get into 608 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: that because of the fact that all I'm doing is 609 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: trying to do a show called money Making Conversation and 610 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: you as a solo preneurs, which you stand up comedy 611 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: person is. But let's go back because she when I 612 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: when because I talked about this because my degree is 613 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: a mathematics and uh, you know the way from university 614 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: Houston and work with to work for IBM. So I 615 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: enjoyed that corporate experience. And I talked to a lot 616 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: of millennials and through my show, through my media social 617 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: media platforms, and so I always want to let them 618 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: know there's a journey to what you do, but also 619 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: let them know that just because you die in this 620 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: path don't mean you have to stay down this absolutely 621 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: So tell us about your academics and then your corporate experience. 622 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Oh lord. So, first of all, I went to Georgia 623 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Southern University. I went on a scholarship, and I will 624 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: tell you when I went to Georgia Southern University, I 625 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. 626 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: I did get accepted to Clark Atlanta. My mother, in 627 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: her mind, she didn't want me to go to Clark Atlanta. 628 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: If I could be very frank, and I know it's 629 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: a lot of HBCU graduates and attendees out there, but 630 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: my mother was like, baby, you already black. I need 631 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: you to go into the world and figure out how 632 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: the rest of the world work. So we're not gonna 633 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: send you to the Good Clock Atlanta. But I love 634 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: you guys. And then she said, if you don't go 635 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: to Clark Atlanta, although you have a scholarship, I would 636 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: buy your car. So where did I go? Georgia Southern 637 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: University with that car, brand new car, I put the 638 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: first mile on. So I went to Georgia Southern Univerally 639 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: not really sure what I wanted to do. I started 640 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: with so many different, you know, majors. I was a 641 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: c I S major, thinking I wanted to, you know, 642 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: write culture, computer information system. Let's take well I found 643 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: not real wick. Then my mind don't work like that. 644 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm not a programmer, 645 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm not that person that could sit in the 646 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: dark and write cold. And half the time I didn't 647 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: know it. Look, I went to my teacher. I was like, 648 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: this is not for me, and my teacher said, your grade, 649 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: say so my degree? And then, you know, I went 650 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: through so many things. I just knew that I wanted 651 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: a business degree. So to be honest with you, I 652 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: ended up graduating with a marketing degree. And at first 653 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: I was kind of feeling some kind of way about 654 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: it because I thought a marketing degree was too soft 655 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: in skills. But I used my marketing marketing degree every 656 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: day since I've graduated from college. And when I graduated 657 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: from college, I got a and I must say this 658 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: everybody just listening, I actually took the L SAD. I 659 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: took the L SADE and decided that I did not 660 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: want to go to law school just because you know, 661 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: it just wasn't again, I have not some of the 662 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: lawyer's gonna out there, like what you mean, I have 663 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: a big personality. I didn't want to be into in 664 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: a courtroom, nor did I have the desire to go 665 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: to law school. After I took the L side, I 666 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: was like, this ain't me either. So what I did 667 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: is I took a job. I went to work with 668 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: Sony via the computers, and I was trained people. I 669 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: was in front of people, you know, upper lower, management, sales, rests, 670 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: all different type of people, even consumers. I trained people 671 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: on the viol computers. I was in charge of launching 672 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: new products and in certain in the market Atlanta specifically, 673 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: and then eventually I moved to Houston with Samsung. Now 674 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: Samsung Telecommunications was an amazing opportunity for me because I 675 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: ran I managed the team. I managed to jokes managed 676 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: the fourth largest territory in the United States, Yes, Kiana dancing. 677 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: Those are my receipts. So when I went to UM Houston, 678 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: I had no idea again that I was even funny. Now, Rashan, 679 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. People used to tell me all 680 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: the time, you are so funny. Oh my god, Oh 681 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: my god, you should, Oh my god, it happened to 682 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: me too. Oh my crying. One lady actually peter their 683 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: pants because I was telling her. I was telling jokes. 684 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I had no idea. I was like that girl, your 685 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: pass off, this little Joe. So what I did, I'm 686 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I was working in the Houston market. 687 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: I was, and I started doing stand up because I 688 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: was going through a breakup and anybody's listening to me, 689 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: I want you to hear me clearly. I used comedy 690 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: to heal myself. Hole I went through it. I was 691 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: in a relationship for ten years from nineteen and twenty nine, 692 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: and that man, although I loved him. I loved that 693 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: man so much. I would have married him on the bike. 694 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: But he couldn't keep a job, so he couldn't feed me. 695 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: So mama had to go some money. So from there 696 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: money I chowed money. So I actually when I my 697 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: first time on stage. Um, I started doing stand up 698 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: just like Open Mike, you know, high Goes, you know, 699 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: but you also doing real estate and Texas too. I 700 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: got my real estate license in two thousand six. S actually, 701 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: I got my real estate license in two thousand six 702 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: so that I could sell myself my own home. Um, 703 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: I was in Houston. I was renting, and that's not 704 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: okay with my mother. My mother always told me to 705 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: have your own. Mom, there's a real estate agent. Also, 706 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: we're partners, so she was like, hey, baby, let's say something. 707 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: You can't continue to pay somebody else's mortgage. You need 708 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: to own your own and pay and pay into yourself. 709 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: Because the best thing for a woman specifically is to 710 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: have to build wealth by real estate because they're not 711 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: creating any more land. So once you buy the land, 712 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: even if you got a nice, old raggedy house, you 713 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: can tear the house down, but that's land, because that's 714 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: what they'd come on now. So I literally I studied 715 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: the took the real estate test. I told myself the 716 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: house me and then that was my commission. And then 717 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: from there, you know, I started talking to young women 718 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: like you need to buy a house. Stop stop on 719 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, renting on your own, okay, And then I 720 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: started doing stand up. I was in the open mics, 721 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: and then you know, Monique, Monique was at the improv 722 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: the Good Improv Oscar winning. Monique was in the improv 723 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Long story short, I was making people 724 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: laughing out in her line and her show, and she 725 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: told me, hey, lady, do you tell jokes? I said no, 726 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: I never have. She said, well, next time I see you, 727 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: I want you to have told me that you've been 728 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: on stage. She wrote her number down and on that 729 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: day I started doing stand up, but I never called her. 730 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: The co host of TV one, which has been renewed 731 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: for a second seasons. Tell us about that because it 732 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: was your biggest um um entertainment moment, yes, in your 733 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: career so far, and there would be other big ones. 734 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: What were the changes first when you when you were selected, 735 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: and what have been the changes with popularity? Because you 736 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: know you do lease a degree of privacy, you do 737 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: you do that so I have to balance life. That's 738 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: a heavy question. Okay. Well, first of all, I just 739 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: want to say this that I would not be here 740 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: if it was not for God, and thank you Jesus 741 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: that he saw me worthy, and I will tell you 742 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: anything that you want you can absolutely put. You know, 743 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: you can bake some plans, but if it's not meant 744 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: for you, God gonna change some plans for you. You You understand. 745 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: But my my work life balance has changed in that. 746 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: Um I'm not naturally a morning person. So for me 747 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: as a stand up comedian, honey, I'm going to bed 748 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: at four. Now I'm waking up at four. I have 749 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: to be up in hair and make up. I have 750 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: to be ready. I have to be perfect, to be alert, 751 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: and the people want you to talk, so you got 752 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: to make your mouth work. I've got to be open, 753 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So at the end of 754 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: the day, if at the very least, that's the biggest 755 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: thing that I've had to change is my lifestyle. You know, 756 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: I'm eating. You have to eat properly because you gotta 757 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: look pretty when you're on TV. You gotta make sure, yes, 758 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: she is pretty, honey. But you know, you gotta make 759 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: sure you look good. It feel good inside so you 760 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: can look good outside. Um. I also will say that, 761 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, people do recognize me. I was in the 762 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: airport last night and then someone I felt him looking 763 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: at me and I didn't, you know. It was so awkward. 764 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: I was just like, do you know me? He was like, 765 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: I do, and I want to ask you for an autograph, 766 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: but I'm shine And I was like, well you just 767 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: said what you won't wear the paper And I'm walking 768 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: through the airport and I would tell you I don't 769 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,959 Speaker 1: look at myself as a celebrity. I love when people 770 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: approach me. I have no qualms with that. I want 771 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: you to know that I'm a real person. So people, 772 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: you've always been like I always have been like even 773 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: when I wasn't talking to you, but you was gonna 774 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: talk to me, you know. And I said, listen, let 775 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: me tell you something. I know you don't know who 776 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: I am, but you're gonna listen. My mama area told 777 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: me I'm somebody. Now you don't need to get on board. 778 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: That so true, so true. But it was a good time. 779 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: It's a good time, a good place to be here. 780 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm right, like you said, this has been one of 781 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: the biggest accomplishments in my career. But I've done a 782 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: lot of things. I was the first as for the 783 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: first female celebrity remaster for for the Universe that no, no, no, no, 784 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: you don't ever don't. I love universal. In fact, that 785 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: was going. I had to bring that up because you 786 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: have to be challenged to control those like because they 787 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 1: weren't they weren't coming that for the elephant. I didn't 788 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: know what to expects for the circus because I was 789 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: like a black circus when they're gonna have chickens. I'm 790 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: being a real patty. But then tell you that circus 791 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: is amazing. And if you never see that, you better 792 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: now that because that really is a traveling event because 793 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: you as family. They come in there and you know 794 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: there's not a big dollars not the road with him, 795 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: I ain't to leave home and go No, I did 796 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: a guest spot. Oh my goodness, girl, we just stopped 797 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: talking to you because I'm about to get involved with 798 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: that on the road. You're in a little bit of 799 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: trailer back there with that big coming up to your 800 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: hip level with me. I was there though, I was there, 801 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: Okay you first. Now you're you're touring stand up comedy. 802 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: I am. You have a tour that goes out it's 803 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: called Single in the City. And many people kept asking me, 804 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: or keep asking me, why did you name your tour 805 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 1: single in the city. First of all, I am a single, 806 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: independent woman. I remind people of that am. Eventually, I 807 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: would love to get married one day. But I'll tell 808 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: you I love and I own my singleness, and I 809 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: think that that is something that a lot of women 810 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: should do. I don't think that you should look at 811 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: being single as a badge of you know, the distress. 812 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: You should look at it like it's it's an honor 813 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: if you choose, and I have chosen to be single. 814 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: I love who I am. I take myself on weekly days. 815 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: Single ladies, if you're out there, you're listening to my voice. 816 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: I want you to know that it's okay to do 817 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: you take yourself out on the day, take yourself on 818 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: the very expensive you know day order you know, make reservations, 819 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: get you a nice glass of wine, get the best 820 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: meal on the menu. Because you need to know how 821 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: to be treated. Whether you're doing that for yourself or 822 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: someone that's gonna do that, you'll know open, you know, 823 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: pull up to the valet, put on a nice dress, 824 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: take care of you and then where you have. If 825 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: you have standards, the guy's not meeting your standards, you 826 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: know how to kick into the curve. Come on now, somebody, 827 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do this for myself and you can't 828 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: do it boy by, because that's important because I have 829 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: six sisters, okay, so I understand the value. I have 830 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: a single daughter. So I have a value system that 831 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: you have to put in place. And one of the 832 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: reasons that Steve Harvey's book Likely to Think Like a 833 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: Man was so popular sold three million copies, was translating 834 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: thirty different foreign languages. We made two very success for 835 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: what we should generated almost two million dollars. I would 836 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: say my credit because we told women in that book 837 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: the value yourself. You are a point that you are 838 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: the queen. We're the reason men wake up in the morning, 839 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: with the reason we dressed with the reason we buy 840 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: cars we call my hat right, you know, we're the 841 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: reason that there is wards, there is this. Listen. I'm 842 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna tell you if the women just stop, if you 843 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: hold the sugar, ladies, I promise you, things will change. Yes, 844 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm down to them, down to the let's listen and 845 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: we just hold back the sugar. I promise you that 846 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: will be peace. You know what I'm saying. The gas 847 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: prices will go down, you know, he might even grow 848 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: hair on his hand away. It's but I'm telling you, 849 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: I just really want people to women to specifically embrace 850 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: the fact that they're single. You don't have to feel less. 851 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: Then you don't have to feel like this, you know 852 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: you're not worthy at the end of the day, when 853 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: you're meant to be in a relationship or when you're ready, 854 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: you will be because that's in portant because of the 855 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: fact that when you're own the road. I've been a 856 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: stand up comic tour and stand up comic since okay, 857 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: before my time, but absolutely, absolutely and proud of it. 858 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: Done death comedy, Jam, I've done. You know that women 859 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: are women, especially African American women, and that's why you 860 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: look at what this happened to Tiffany Hattish. I'm applauded, 861 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: she's exploded, and I wish your all the opportunities. But 862 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: again she's one, yes, and there's and it should be room. 863 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: There should be more, and there's absolutely room for more 864 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: than one. And I'm not gonna forget Monique here about 865 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: this interview. Monique some more Tiffany Hattish, you know, want 866 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: the side that's so many talented African so many talented 867 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: African American women. So there's room for us all. But 868 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: I just I really remind people that. So the point 869 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: the question was why did I name the tour single 870 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: in the city, And it's just when I get there. 871 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: I was singing in the city in Birmingham. I was 872 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: singing in the city in Memphis. But if I meet 873 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: a guy you want to take me out, well, you know, 874 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: first of all, match dot com. Let me tell you something. 875 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: Go ahead and call the girl, and you know, hook 876 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: me up with an account because I'm telling you match 877 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: dot com, tender bumble. Whoever black people meet, come on 878 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: that farmers. Okay, listen, I will take a farmer, a 879 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: good farm, but you gotta have on that farm and 880 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: don't have more than to go in account. I need boom, 881 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: I need all the things that makes money. Said you, 882 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: you're very popular on the road, and that's what people say. 883 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: They what they make a commitment tickets. You host a 884 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: comedy night and it last, Yes, I do. I host 885 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: Atlanta Comedy Theater every Friday here in North Across when 886 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm in town, which is you know, thank god, it's 887 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: been half and half. But you're like the end of 888 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: the day, moment is working. Okay, let me ask you, 889 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: can I work with you? You could? Or what I 890 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: gotta do to get into Miss Danc's life? How you 891 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: trying to get into I just see such popularity. I'll 892 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: see my over here. I see money making conversations over here. 893 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: I just feel that, you know, you know, you know. 894 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: What I do, I take, I formulate, I create, build 895 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: a beast. But I'm gonna say that I'm saying this. 896 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm already a beast. But what I do need you 897 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: to do is take it up to not you know 898 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, come on now, but you're saying this 899 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: now When you saying can I get in your life? Now, 900 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: that sounds different. I know you got a good wife 901 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: at home. I'm saying. I'm saying, so I had to 902 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: kind of step back like you because she listened to 903 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: the show, and my mom's in town. She listened to 904 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: the show. So this is all of my business. 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Of his seven 933 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 1: hundred thousand plus social media followers are female. He's a 934 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: two time Emmy Award winner, three time n double a 935 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: c P Image Award winner, sitcom writer, stand up comic, 936 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: former IBM executive, and has a degree in mathematics. More importantly, 937 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald will use his business and celebrity relationships to 938 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: empower small businesses with information to succeed. HI this Rashan 939 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: McDonald another great show, The Making Conversation. That's what we do, entertainment, entrepreneurship. 940 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: We deliver the message, the unwritten rule that you can 941 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: be a celebrity and talk about other things other than 942 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: what you do or what you're known for. Let me 943 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: just tell you by my next guest. He's on the 944 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: phone right now. My next is an NFL fan favorite. 945 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 1: He ended. He entered the NFL as the first overall 946 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: pick in two thousand one with the Atlanta Falcons and 947 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 1: just five years with the Falcon victory three pro bos 948 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: two thousand, two thousand to two thousand four or two 949 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: thousand five, and led the team to to playoff parents, 950 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: including the NFC Championship in two thousand four. I remember 951 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: that game. I remember that. During his final season in 952 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 1: the Latta, he put on one of the best performances, 953 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: breaking the single season Russian record for a quarterback and 954 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: becoming the first quarterback in NFL history to rush for 955 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: one thousand yards in the season. Please walk on the 956 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: money making conversation, the incredible Michael Vick. Oh, thank you, Hey, Mike, 957 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: Mike wil Come on, Mike, that was Mike. I laid 958 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: you out, Mande, I laid you out working out here 959 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: at home for putting all these words together. Man, to 960 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: make sure up for my board where he's old to 961 00:48:52,520 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: be alleged. Man, I'm something, man, Mike, you I'm a 962 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: fan of you are not only as an athlete but 963 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: a business person. Uh. Game changer. Now when you got 964 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to hear to be an analyst Fox Sports 965 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: NFL Kickoff show on Fox. Okay, here you are you 966 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: you're you're You're an extremely talented athlete. But everybody is 967 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: not extremely talented in the words, you have natural guard gifts, 968 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of players who have to work 969 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: hard to achieve the same opportunity that you get. What 970 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: are you in preparation for? You know, you don't want 971 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: to be critical players because you have to meet these players. 972 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: How do you how do you approach you prepping for 973 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: those shows? Well, you know, it's it's it's kind of tricky. Um. 974 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: You know, I think you know, to my advantage, I 975 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 1: played the game, so I know players feelings and emotions 976 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: after win or loss, and just I'm just saying that 977 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: just to keep it simple. So when I when I 978 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: go on TV and I'm able to talk about it, 979 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm such a fan of the game, I know how 980 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: to bring it out in a positive and negative way, 981 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: but in a way where where it's you know, constructive criticism, 982 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm trying to help you see that. Listen, 983 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: there's a problem and needs to be fixed. Um, if 984 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: this problem don't be fixed, to become bigger, and you know, 985 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: you kind of lead it up, lead up to a 986 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: week by week based on you know, every player storyline. 987 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: Every player in the NFL has a storyline. You know, 988 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: if you're playing you know, guys you know, playing the 989 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: offensive line, they're not. It's visible. So you know, if 990 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: when guys giving up ten sacks the game again, he'll 991 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: be a story do that. But you know guys like 992 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 1: Godell Beckham, we watches every move you know, Drew Breeze, 993 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: he watches every move round. You know, the premier players 994 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 1: in the game. You know, give us something to talk 995 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: about weekend and week out based on performance. And I 996 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: know what it should look like. So it helps me 997 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: when I get on set. Now, what it also helps 998 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: is the fact that you still maintain this high profile 999 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: television parents and then you're launching a clothing brand called 1000 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 1: V seven. Tell us about that high performance active where yeah, 1001 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: well V seven was low, you know it was in 1002 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 1: V seven, you know from two thousands three to two 1003 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. You know, uh, permount deal with Nike, 1004 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: and you know is Nike has been graces to me. 1005 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: You know though throughout the course of my career, man 1006 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: have been so loyal and you know we've had, you know, 1007 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: such good times. You know, they they gave me permission, 1008 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: they kind of redo it again on my own, you know, 1009 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: and just you know, go out, you know, still represent Nike. 1010 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: Still I never leave the Nike BRANDO Nike branded for life. Um, 1011 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: you know I I you know, chant that relationship to 1012 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: you know, to the day I that So you know, 1013 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,919 Speaker 1: I still do work with Nike. I'm still there for them. 1014 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: I still and they allowed me to have V seven 1015 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: and you know V seven is just um, you know, 1016 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: there's nothing you know, crazy about it. It's like any 1017 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: other colding lie grow with the trends and you know, um, 1018 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: we're we're excited because you know, at some point we 1019 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, we were pushed to get into big retail 1020 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: stores and we feel like we're ready. I don't want 1021 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: to rush it, but I just got you know, my 1022 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: codes approved it Man the bookstores at Virginia Tech, you know, 1023 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: in three different UM locations and online, And as long 1024 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: as we continue to produce good products and we get 1025 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: the fans of Portman, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Michael Vick, 1026 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: V seven always be able to you know, say that 1027 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 1: we were the first to ever do it and be 1028 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: able to co brand and exist exist on campus. W 1029 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: we make where I made history. And it's great to 1030 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: have your colding line in a place where you know, 1031 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: kids for generations to come. You know, I can always 1032 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: feel like they're part of the V seven tradition and 1033 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: the things that happened at a text so along with 1034 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: that and you know me and my crew rocket and 1035 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: making it look good. Man. It's just it's funny to 1036 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: have cloth. I th that's right, hey, Mike guest Dan 1037 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: shape not Mike got stand. Can't rock your cloth with 1038 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: a little part bairey you know that? Not come Yeah, 1039 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: gotta keep that slam now. But you're looking good. Yeah, yeah, 1040 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good right now. But there you go. Now, 1041 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: if you want to look at this clothing long go 1042 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: to WW dot V seven clothing dot com as WW 1043 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: dot V seven clothing dot com dot Michael offensive coordinator 1044 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: for the new Professional Spring Football League Alliance of American 1045 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: Football Atlanta team. Tell us about that head coach is 1046 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: former Super Bowl UH coach correct Brad Childress Brad Brad 1047 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: Shoulders the head coach you know on the offensive coordinator, Uh, 1048 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm excited, man. It's just this is 1049 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to you know, connect with the you know, 1050 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: a league that's you know on a rise and look 1051 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 1: it's looking to you know, be around for a long 1052 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: time and help you know, get plays, you know, another 1053 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: opportunity to continue their careers and further their careazy, get 1054 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: good teaching and coaching and maybe go on and and 1055 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: do greater things. So that's what that's what they're set 1056 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: up for. So, um, well, we know we needed, we 1057 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: need to go ahead and I'm I'm gonna be marking. 1058 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna take on a little subtle V seven marketing. 1059 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: Let's get this V seven tied to this league here. Okay, well, 1060 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 1: I think those are conversations that Camp could be had there. 1061 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna Mike there, you gonna make conversation, Mike conversation 1062 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: and it. Yeah, that's a little by making conversation, what 1063 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 1: what whatever? What I was and what I was mentioned, 1064 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: because we're having a plenty baking conversations. You know, bring 1065 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: my cleep back and let my cleep be there. Uh 1066 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, Flagship you now you're gon and be seven. 1067 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: Look we can, but it will only be the Atlanta 1068 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: Alliance to absolutely, absolutely only get it absolutely you know, 1069 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: it's what makes us special. Let's set us apart. So 1070 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: you know those conversations that the project you had at 1071 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: some point, you know, as the relationship continues to bro um. 1072 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: You know, if we're working with a great growth of 1073 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: people from Charlie episode to um you know, j K McKay, 1074 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: um Solver down to brad Children. So I mean the 1075 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: league is going to be very successful. We're gonna make 1076 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: sure that it's successful and it's just good for us, 1077 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: just more football for people to watch. I'm gonna tell 1078 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: you something. I'm telling something. First of all, it's not 1079 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: competing with the NFL. Okay, that's why I love That's 1080 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: why I love it because see that I'm I'm I'm 1081 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: a withdrawal. No one can get people to the NFL. 1082 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: Let's go and get that true now. But I'm just 1083 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: saying that all all I'm being hit with is for 1084 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: draft picks to combine leading up to the draft. If 1085 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: I can get some some good football that I can 1086 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: watch and go go a tend game, I'm there. I'm there. Yeah, 1087 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: absolutely inspective. If it's in your city, why not support um? 1088 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, like I said, when you got you know, 1089 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: some of the best of the best food has been 1090 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: around the game. Yes, sir, you know other you know 1091 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: this is in Atlanta, y'all, we're talking about Atlanta. He's 1092 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna be inta. Michael Vick is coming back on the 1093 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: side of Atlanta, and I'm glad that they gave an 1094 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: opportunity to come home. But they will have a team 1095 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 1: in the Lando coach by us so already, so that's 1096 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna be is gonna be good football at me here, Mike. 1097 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: You know there's might be some shootouts offenses there too. Well, 1098 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: here's the deal, man, I'm on the phone. Whatever I'm 1099 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: talking to, Michael Vick. This is the man is multiple 1100 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: streams of income. Michael Vick Okay, Fox Sports analysts. He 1101 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: the v found that the VIC Foundation is being reinvigorated, 1102 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 1: but he never stopped giving back to the community clothing brand. 1103 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: He's seven is a Virginia Tech. 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