1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: It's that special time of the year. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: No, not Christmas, tis the season from the vek Aramaswami 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: to lecture Americans about how awful they can possibly be. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back to a Numbers game with Ryan Grdusky. Now, 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: for those of you who have a healthy relationship with 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: social media and you don't read the New York Times, 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: you may have missed Republican candidate for governor of Ohio 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: and failed presidential candidate, the vek Raamaswami busy lecturing Americans. Now, 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: for those of you who don't remember, last year, on 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, the vek Aramaswami decided to go on a 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Twitter rant talking about how tech entrepreneurs hire immigrants over 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Americans because our culture, the American culture, venerates mediocrity and laziness. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: We celebrate athletes and prom queens and pop their kids 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: instead of nerds, and that American parents were failing their 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: kids because they let them do extracurrik of activities and 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: sleepovers instead of math leatues. You know, they treated their 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: children like children instead of like employees to get the 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: maximum turnout possible from them. And his evidence for this 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: was TV shows from the nineties like Boy meets world, 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: family matters and saved by the bell. In other words, 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: Vivek Ramaswami's decades of resentment that he was never popular 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: and he was beat up in school by black kids 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: and felt isolated by white kids finally boiled over. Took 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: thirty years, but it finally happened on Christmas Eve of 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: last year. Well, this Christmas season, Vivek is here to 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: lecture us again about how this incredible country that our 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: ancestors built doesn't really belong to us. It belongs to 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: anyone who believes what Vivek believes. In The New York Times, 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: Vivek attempts to inject himself in the fight against Nick 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: Fuentes and the grappers and the far right who celebrate 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: quote unquote heritage Americans. What is a heritage American, he 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: might ask. It is a very loose term, referring to 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: people whose ancestry in this country dates back to the 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: American Revolution or before yours truly is a heritage American. 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: My paternal grandmother certainly came on the Mayflower and they 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: fought in the Revolutionary War. According to ancestry dot Com, 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: sixty percent of all Americans can trace their ancestry to 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: the American Revolution as recently as twenty ten. So recently 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: twenty ten, a majority of Americans were heritage Americans. They 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: came in all different races, shape, sizes, and colors and creeds. 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: That is not good enough for VC Ramaswami to sit there, 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: and you know, instead of applauding about mass assimilation, about 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: intermarriage between descendants of immigrants and founding stock Americans. You know, 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: like my family, My mother is the great granddaughter of 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: Italian immigrants. She is not a heritage American, but her 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: children are and her grandchildren are because they have intermarried. 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: She married my father, who was a heritage American. And 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: we tie our nation's past with our nation's future in 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: this beautiful collective a way that is very unique to America, 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: and that you know, our family trees kind of all 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: intertwine into our both our history. We can look at 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: our past and say, eventually a majority can look at 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: our past and say we were part of that effort 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: to make this country over time. But the VEC doesn't 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: see it that way because so Vek is not obviously 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: a heritage of Maria. He sits there and says that 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: being a heritage American is in fact not a defining 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: part of America at America's identity, he writes, quote this 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: view is now popularized by the groyper Wright, a rapidly 60 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: ascended online movement that argues that for the creation of 61 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: a white centric identity. This is a predictable response, one 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: that I anticipated in my book Nation of Victims to 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: anti white discrimination over the last half decade, and is 64 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: no longer just a fringe viewpoint stops. First of all, 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: the VEC does not write his books. Veck's books are 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: ghost written allegedly by someone from the Manhattan Institute. I 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: know their name, but I'm not going to say it 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: because I don't want any complaints. But he does not 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: write any of his books. I continue the alternative, and 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: in my view, the correct vision of American identity is 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: based on ideals. 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: This is what be Beck writes. 73 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: Americanism isn't a scholar quality that varies based on your ancestry. 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: It's binary. Either you're an American or you're not. You're 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: an American if you believe in the rule of law, 76 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: in the freedom of conscious and the freedom of expression, 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: in colorblind maritiocracy, in the US Constitution, in the American 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: dream and if you are a citizen who swears exclusive 79 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: allegiance to our nation. He goes on to rant and 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: ray about Nick Fuente is a great person, the cost 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: of living, and his follow up to the op ed 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: was a speech of the Turning Point USA conference where 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: he said that the idea of quote heritage American is 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: more American than another American is Unamerican at its core. 85 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Quote. 86 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: The online common threads of Twitter might preach that our 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: lineage is our strength, and no, I'm sorry, our lineage 88 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: is not our strength. Our true strength is what unites 89 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: us across the diversity and through that lineage that is 90 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: a word salad of garbage. So I want to break 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: down Vivec's op ed and his speech and the idea 92 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: behind it. But first I need to talk a little 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: bit about the VEC the man, because those of you 94 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: who kind of know who Avec is because you've seen 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: on cable news or some podcasts and you say yourself, Wow, 96 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: he says a lot of buzzwords that I really like. 97 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: He's an interesting guy. I think I like him, I 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: think I agree with him. He seems friendly, he seems patriotic. 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: That's probably how your relationship to Vivek Ramaswami is you 100 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: know a little bit about him, but not a ton. 101 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: You've seen him. 102 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: You've seen him say and repeat the same buzz words 103 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: over and over again on a number of cable shows 104 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: and podcasts, but they're only skin deep. They're not a 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: real thought piece where he says something you say, wow, 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: oh my god, I've never. 107 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: Thought of it that before. But VEC doesn't offer that. 108 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: You know, you need to understand something too, my my 109 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: dear listeners, need to understand by b k Raama Swami. 110 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Bavek is the Nigerian prince of the Republican Party, promising 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: you money and riches if you just give him your 112 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: social Security number, your mother's made, the name, and your 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: name of your very first pet. He is a scam 114 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: artist to his core. He is a liar. He is 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: someone who has definitely perpetuated falsehoods on voters and on Republicans. 116 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: And I need to bring it up to you because 117 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: I've seen a number of politicians who lie who fit. 118 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: I brought up a couple of them in the past, 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: but Vek is one of the worst, who is not 120 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: yet a politician, not yet an elected politician, but is 121 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: trying very, very hard. 122 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Let's start at the beginning. 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: The VEC, for all his comments about how someone becomes 124 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: an American and is an American, was not born to 125 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: American citizens. 126 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: His mother and father were here on work visas. 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: She did not take a test, as a VEC said, 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: to show how much she agreed with the ideology of 129 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: the founding fathers or colorblind meritocracy or the free market. 130 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: She just got a job and had a baby, and 131 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: that baby got citizenship. That's all it was. There was 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: no further reasoning or belief system behind it that Vivec says, 133 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: what is an American? Two points worth noting the VEC 134 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: oftentimes lies in interviews about his parents' origin story. During 135 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: presidential debate, he said that they came to this country 136 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: with nothing, but they came to this country with a 137 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: work visa, and his father was an engineer and his 138 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: mother was a doctor. So pumped the brakes on that 139 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: idea of rags to riches. It's also worth pointing out 140 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: that President Trump doesn't believe that people who come to 141 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: this country on temporary visas and have babies that those 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: babies should be citizens. He is fighting this actively in 143 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. So if President Trump had been president 144 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: forty years ago and settle this case. You know, in 145 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: that decade, the VEC would have never been offered citizenship 146 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: to begin with. So a vec's clear statement about his 147 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: birth and about why he's a citizen and how he's 148 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: a citizen one, it's full of contrary comments because his 149 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: mother and father never had to take assizenship to US. 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I believe his father's still not even a citizen. 151 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: And secondly, had President Trump been president then and had 152 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: President Trump, you know, if he's successful this time, a 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: future of a VEC would never be a citizen to 154 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: begin with, because they are here temporarily on just a 155 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: temporary work visa. When this was brought up to Vivek 156 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: Ramaswami in an interview that you know the fact that 157 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: his parents were not citizens when they came here, they 158 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: were just on a temporary work visa. That his citizenship 159 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: is just because of a Supreme Court ruling that states 160 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: that you know, you're naturalized if you're just born here 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: through a retailing the fourteenth Amendment, which was designed just 162 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: for the descendants of slavery. Is he gets very defensive, 163 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: and he's inserting that Americans, no matter how long they've 164 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: been here. Well, we're all just citizens. If you have 165 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: birth right, we're just like him. 166 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: I believe in being consistent about my policies. 167 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Where So, your father is not a citizen of the 168 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: United States, he's okay. And your mother, when did your 169 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: mom take the citizenship test? Was it before or after 170 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: you were born? After I was born, after you were born? 171 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: Okay, after years of being in this you know, following 172 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: the legal process of becoming a naturalized citizen. 173 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: She followed it through the legal process. 174 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: You gained birth You gained citizenship through birthright then. 175 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: But you gain citizenship through birthright citizenship in that sense too, right, 176 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: I mean every American. So what I want to do 177 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: is revive a vision of citizenship where every kid who 178 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 4: is sorry. 179 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Just attract So your father is not a citizen. 180 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: Your man came to this country legally. 181 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 182 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: This is a tactic that that often uses when he's 183 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: pointed to him that you don't have a long strending 184 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: connection to this country or to its people. Well, when 185 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: I was pointing out by Glenn Beck that he is 186 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: in fact a Hindu, which means he's a polytheists. He 187 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: believes in many gods, including cow gods, I'm not saying 188 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm not shaming him. This is what he believes in, though, 189 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: something far removed from what the majority of Americans, who 190 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: are mostly of the Abrahamic faiths, either Christianity, Judaism, or Islam. 191 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Far removed from that. 192 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: He gets extremely defensive, and not only does he say 193 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: that he can relate to Christians, he says that he 194 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: is in fact more Christian than some Christians. 195 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 5: The acceptance of a Hindu as the President of the 196 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 5: United States, I say this as a member of the 197 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 5: Church of Jesus Christ. So that's not Christian enough for 198 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,119 Speaker 5: a lot of Christians. 199 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: Have we passed that? 200 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: Or I think it depends on the person, right, I mean, 201 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: whether you're a Christian or whether you're a different person 202 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: of a different faith. I understand this is a nation 203 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: founded on Judeo Christian values, and Glenn I think I 204 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: can say this with deep, honest conviction. Here I share 205 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: are those same Judeo Christian values, more so than even 206 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: many self professed Christians across the country. 207 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: Okay, this is the pattern of a deeply insecure man 208 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: who insists. 209 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: That he has his connection is actually stronger than yours. 210 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: Is He faints outrage at the fact that you notice 211 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: that he's different, the fact that he noticed that he 212 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: is very very close to you know, he's a child 213 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: of immigrants, the fact that he is not does not 214 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: follow the same faith as the super majority of Americans, 215 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: and all while hoping that you don't notice the fact 216 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: that he has constantly been reinventing himself, like you know, 217 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: like an aging pop star. 218 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: He broke into the national scene when. 219 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: His book Woke Inc. Came out in August twenty twenty one. 220 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: It was a ghost written book. By the way, in 221 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: his book, which I have, I had to write actually 222 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: next to me, I must move it is when I 223 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: think he gave it to me, actually when I met 224 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: him at Seapac that year. Anyway, in his book book, 225 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: Vivech details how corporations have sold out to wokeness, like 226 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: the ideas like ESG and DEI. It seemed like a 227 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: no brainer to listen to a guy like this on 228 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: the subject. Vivec would been wildly successful in business. He 229 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 2: had worked at Hedge Funds and he started his own 230 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: biotech company. Vivec employed the service of public relations teams 231 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: and paid influencers to put himself out there and become 232 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: quickly a household name among Republicans. He did a very 233 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: good job at that rollout. Little not that Vivec did 234 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: not tell his growing fan base without his company, the 235 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: one he founded and ran as CEO, launched a nonprofit 236 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: committed to DEI. This is while he was saying DEI 237 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: was horrible. It was like with ESG, one of the 238 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: worst things possible. He remained that company CEO until twenty 239 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: twenty and chairman until twenty twenty two, and still holds 240 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: a large stake in it. Another little thing he never 241 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: mentioned to his growing fan base was that he became 242 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: very rich in twenty fifteen by basically defrauding. I don't 243 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: want to say defrauding by having a pump and dump allegedly. 244 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: I think that would be a fair way to sit 245 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: there and say it. In twenty fifteen, at h one nine, 246 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: Ramaswami acquired a failed Alzheim drug candidate called Interpending. I'm 247 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: sorry if I just pronounced that. You know, guys, you 248 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: know pronunciations on my stomps with shrump suit. Anyway, he 249 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: acquired of her five million dollars. Ramswami spun it out 250 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: into a new subsidiary called Axovan Sciences, which he positioned 251 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: as a high potential biotech focus on neurodiversion diseases, specifically Alzheimer's. 252 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: Asovan quickly became public in June twenty fifteen, with one 253 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: of the largest biotech IPOs at the time, raising three 254 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen million dollars and achieving an evaluation of 255 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: three billion, despite not having any approved products and relying 256 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: heavily on the Alzheimer's medication. Now, the Alzheimer's medication had 257 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: failed its second round of clinical trials twice in a 258 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: single year. So why did people all of a sudden 259 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: get so excited about this new Alzheimer's medication. It had 260 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: to do with Vex some mother, a geriatric psychiatrist with 261 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: prior experience at pharmacutical companies like Merk. She served as 262 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: the vice president of medical Affairs at Axovan and contributed 263 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: her clinical expertise in dementia and Alzeimer's care. 264 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Sources indicate she. 265 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: Was involved in a key phase two clinical trial with 266 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: the Alzheimer's drug involving six hundred and eighty four patients 267 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: after Accivent acquired the drug from his primary owner, where 268 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: had previously failed multiple tests the trial showed some positive 269 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: signals which helped you hype into this new company. She 270 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: later co authored and presentations and posters about the drugs data, 271 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: including a baseline characteristics of the Phase three mindset trial. Additionally, 272 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: she came out of retirement to lead Actravan's outreach efforts 273 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: to physicians and caregivers about dementia patients. So, in other words, 274 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: Vivek buys a drug that it failed multiple times, gets 275 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: his mom to do a study on whether or not 276 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: it's good to go for another round of trials, raises 277 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: a ton of money, and when the bottom falls out, 278 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: they cash out. The VEC became very, very very wealthy 279 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: from this company based by the way out of Bermuda 280 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: to avoid certain taxes. Now you don't say Ryan, I 281 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: don't care about his business dealings. I don't care about 282 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: the past, you know, or even at the DEI non 283 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: or having a ghost certain book about corporate. 284 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: DEI while having a DEI nonprofit. What about his policies? 285 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: Yep, full of hypocrisies there too, Like the time that 286 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: he said that he cried on January sixth watching our 287 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: capital being stormed, and then it says said no, it 288 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: was actually just an FBI hit job. I don't know 289 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: why why he would cry about an inside job by 290 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: the FBI for or the time that he said that 291 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: he respected what Mike Pence did on January six and 292 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: he would have done the same thing, before saying that actually, no, 293 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: he wouldn't have done that. He would basically call for 294 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: another election a do over, or the time of Beck 295 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: celebrated Juneteenth, only to say a few months later that 296 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: it was a useless holiday. He said climate change was 297 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: absolutely real, before a few months later saying that it 298 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: was a hoax. He said we should cut aid to 299 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: Israel before saying we should not cut aid to Israel. 300 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: He called TikTok digital fetanol before making an account and 301 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: being opposed to the ban of TikTok. Then, on the 302 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: campaign trail in Ohio as governor, he made a video 303 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: saying that he wanted to have school twelve months a year, 304 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: basically abolish the summer break. You know, he thinks American 305 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: children are too lazy and to coddle to begin with, 306 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: So that backfired him and his campaign to whole conservative 307 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: allies in the media that the whole thing was fake. 308 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: It was just ai when and it turned out to 309 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: be completely true. He did actually make that video. There's 310 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: also an x current business which he moved out of 311 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: the state of Ohio to Texas three months before announcing 312 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: his run for governor. I'm sure that had nothing to 313 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: do with the possibility of the Ohio Ethics Commission looking 314 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: into financial interests connected to the state and having to 315 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: have disclose it. He'd have to disclose all of a sudden, 316 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: all this financial interests connected to the state of Ohio, now, 317 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure has nothing to do with that. I'm sure 318 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: it makes perfectly extensis. To move all your jobs three 319 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: months before announcing your run for governor shows how good 320 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: you are a businessman for workers in that state. There 321 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: can't possibly be anything shady there now. There is nothing 322 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: but beck Ramaswamy will not do or say at any 323 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: given moment. This man who has a company based out 324 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: of a Bermuda that could avoid taxes, only registered to 325 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: vote for president, only register to vote when he was 326 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: running for president. And the first job that Doge cut 327 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: was his because Elon Musk couldn't stand him. He is 328 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: the worst case of central character syndrome that has ever 329 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: been documented. A man who looks like the Indian version 330 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: of Jimmy Neutron trying to ask the Jewish question. He's 331 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: someone who has spent his life repeatedly rejected by Americans, 332 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: either in schools or social settings or running for president. 333 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: And so he has made his life's mission to govern you, 334 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: to govern this country whose people he views as lazy, 335 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: as a mediocre and has rejected him time after time. 336 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: And for whatever reason, it's Christmas time that he is 337 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: the most triggered to remind Americans why they're country. The 338 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: country that their ancestors built, whether he likes it or not, 339 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: really doesn't belong to them. It belongs to anybody. It 340 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: belongs to any person who can just sit here and 341 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: you believes what he believes. And how dare you complain 342 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: about losing your job or being replaced, or that your kids, 343 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: You know, you let your kids play sports, you let 344 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: them have sleepover, so you deserve that they can't sit 345 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: there and get ahead. 346 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: That's the core of who. 347 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: This man is. He is a cars who speaks for 348 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: applause lines. He was a member of the Soros Foundation fellowship, 349 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: which is interesting. He says he needed a fellowship because 350 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: he couldn't pay for college. But he was already a 351 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: millionaire by the time he applied for college, where he 352 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: pled applied for law school. And unfortunately for the people of Ohio, 353 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: he's the leading candidate for governor. And if you believe Vavec, 354 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: if you believe that he is out there to create 355 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: sound policies and he just wants good governance, a man 356 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: who's never even served on jury duty before or voted 357 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: for anyone besides himself, and you have fallen for the 358 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: motherload of con artists. Please do yourself a favor and 359 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: don't ever click on an unknown link in an email 360 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: that you receive from an anonymous sender, or give your 361 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: credit card information away to someone on the phone that 362 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: randomly calls you. You are too gullible for this world. Okay, 363 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: that's who Vivec is, the person, the man. Let me 364 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: discuss the point of his comments, not just the man, 365 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: but the idea he's putting out there and the con 366 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: he is inflicting on the people of Ohio. So the 367 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: argument of evec is trying to promote over the weekend, 368 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: is that something that he has said in the past 369 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 2: that American citizenship isn't tied to lineage. Being an American 370 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: the American identity isn't tied toll lineage. It's tied to 371 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: the share ideals like the rule of law, freedom of 372 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: conscious freedom of expression, and colorblind meritocracy in the US 373 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: Constitution and the American dream. If you are a citizen 374 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: who swears exclusive allegiance to our country, you don't have 375 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: any other allegiance or any I guess other citizenship to 376 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: another country. And he's the notion of heritage American is 377 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: a proof that of a failed ideology. He implies Biden, 378 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: the idea that Biden is more American than Trump because 379 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: Trump is the son of an immigrant from Scotland, or 380 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders is more American than Bernie Marino, an immigrant 381 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: from South America, or Elizabeth Warren is more American than 382 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, the son of an immigrant from Cuba, all 383 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: of which are utter looney ideas. Any American citizen is America, period. 384 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: Let's stop there for just one second. That's what the 385 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: vechs Seran says. First of all, no one is coming 386 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: to this country to take a political ideology test. No 387 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: one is becoming a citizen and has to say that 388 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: they believe when Marco Rubio or Bernie Marino or any 389 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: of these people believe or Donald Trump, it's literally just 390 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: a bunch of beliefs he made up as the appropriate ones. 391 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: Right. 392 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 2: It's not how to become a good citizen or a 393 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: real American. It's how to become mostly a good Republican honestly, 394 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: is what he's sitting there and saying as his core beliefs. 395 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: What about people who changed their minds? What about people 396 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: who come to this country and they start out as 397 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: a a vec Ramaswami American and then become liberal. Are 398 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: they an American because their opinions changed center Bernie Marino 399 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: used to be very progressive as a Republican from Ohio. 400 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: He supported DEI policies, including fourteen trillion in reparations for 401 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: Black Americans, and then he switches opinion. Was he not 402 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: an American then? And he is an American? 403 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: Now? 404 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: What about Ariana Huffington, She's an immigrant who was the 405 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: very patriotic before becoming utterly insane and supporting a number 406 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: of things of a vec opposes in his list? Did 407 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: she lose her American identity because she changed her mind? 408 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 2: Because that's what Avec's saying. It's just a state of mind. Also, 409 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: what's the vec's plan for all these non Americans living 410 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: in our country? If a VEC really believed this, if 411 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: he says, you are not an American if you don't 412 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: believe this thing or that thing, which, by the way, 413 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't. By the way, this whole thing, this whole 414 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: right up for the New York Times is utterly focus. 415 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: He doesn't believe this because if you believed it, you 416 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: would call for a national a massive national denaturalization program 417 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: based on our non shared beliefs. Hassan Piker, a bisexual 418 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: Twitch streamer, is actively supporting communism and as recently in China, 419 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: talk about how great their system is. Is he going 420 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: to be denaturalized? What about Ibram X Kennedy? Is he 421 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: He's actually called for the Constitution to be shredded and 422 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: an Office of Anti Racism to control all things local 423 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: and federal. He doesn't believe in freedom of speech at all, 424 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: freedom of conscious Nothing is vivek going to denaturalize Ebram 425 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: x Kenndy? How is Ibram x Kenny a non American 426 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 2: according to Veck standards? How is he allowed to vote 427 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: in our country? Shouldn't this be a national emergency? See 428 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: Vivek is doing what so many conservative commentators have done. 429 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: They're using white liberals as the punching bag because of 430 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: course they can. It's easy. White liberals aren't insufferable people. 431 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: But notice how we never brought up any of these 432 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: black democrats who have histories that go to slavery, because 433 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: that'd be uncomfortable, that'd be really weird for him. He 434 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: doesn't want to sit there and talk about how the 435 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: descendants of slaveries have no lineage to this country. There 436 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 2: lineage doesn't matter because it is such a part of 437 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: not only American identity, but definitely Black American identity. So no, 438 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: he attacks lives with warrant because it's easy to hate her. 439 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: She's annoying, I get it. But Vec also likes to 440 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: use this very stupid quote from Ronald Reagan. Reagan said, 441 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: you can go to France, but you won't be a Frenchman. 442 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: You can move to Italy or Germany, but you'll never 443 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: be Italian or German. You can live the rest of 444 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: your life in China, but you'll ever be Chinese. But 445 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: America different. We're a nation based on ideals, and that 446 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: makes us exceptional. It's such a stupid Raking quote. None 447 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: of that is true. The leading contender for the president 448 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: of France has immigrant parents from Italy. Like all the 449 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: great raging quotes, Vivek uses the stupidest one for his opinion. 450 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: Here's a more accurate quote from President Charles de Gaulle 451 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: of France on immigration, especially that country. Jagall said, it 452 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: is very good that there are black Frenchmen, brown Frenchmen, 453 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 2: yellow Frenchmen for the show that France is a universal location. However, 454 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: they must always remain a small minority, otherwise France will 455 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: no longer be France. We must not forget we are 456 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: a nation born on the Christian religion, reco Roman culture, 457 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: and the white race. In other words, France can allow 458 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: anyone to be French, right, but if the native French 459 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: become a minority in their own country, they will lose 460 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: that country. And no matter how many times have Vek 461 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: says the following quote, no matter your ancestry, if you 462 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: wait your term to obtain citizenship, you are every bit 463 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: as American as a Mayflower descendant, as long as you 464 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: subscribe to the creedive America's founding and the culture was 465 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: born in. What makes American exceptionalism possible. That is utter bullshit. 466 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: My friend Rufus and he's on Twitter as west Side 467 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: La guy. I had to say, you know, he asked me. 468 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: I was promoted because he made a good point. He said, 469 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: the main reason someone comes to this country to become 470 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: a citizen isn't because they believe in some foundational creed 471 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: or some shared ideology. No. Sixty six to seventy percent 472 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: of immigrants in our country who come here, who becomes citizens, 473 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: come here because they're related to somebody through a family 474 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: reunification visa. That's all it is. That's literally all it is. 475 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: If you are related to somebody, you can get a visa. 476 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: If you are direct relative of somebody, you can get 477 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: a visa. And if you wait long enough in line 478 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: and memorize six questions on a test that include how 479 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: many senators are there and what are the stars on 480 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: our nation's flag represents, then boom, you are an American. 481 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: That's it. That's all it is. It's empty, it's hollow, 482 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: it's gross. It's the reason why so many conservatives have 483 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: turned against mass immigration and a vex's vision for what 484 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: American is over the last few years is because those 485 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: of us who have been here for generations, for centuries 486 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: or at least a century, those we as descendants of 487 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: those generations, are continually asked to make sacrifices on behalf 488 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: of those. 489 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: Who have just come. 490 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: It was white millennial men that was discussed in a 491 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: recent paper from Compact magazine that is set there, and 492 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: so that we suffered the most. Our generation did through 493 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty DEI policies. Right, we had to diversify 494 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: the workplace, especially for recent immigrants. Recent immigrants, minds you 495 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: who used the black experience in this country, which was 496 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: you know, since slavery suffered real discrimination, they have piggybacked 497 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: on that to reap the rewards like things like minority 498 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: owned business loans and opportunity zones. They were never part 499 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: of that massive struggle that does intertwine people who have 500 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: been in this country for generations. No, it means something 501 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: very different for vivek Ramaswami than it has for the 502 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: families who have fought every single American war that has 503 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: spent generations building this land and being born on it 504 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: and dying in it, and fielding harvests and working in 505 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: factories and protecting personal economic freedoms so that vivek Ramaswami's 506 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: parents can come to this country and enjoy it. You 507 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: should at least owe a sense of gratitude towards the 508 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: people who for generations serve in this country in one 509 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: capacity of the other. But no, America is not great 510 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: just because our ideas are great. And America is not 511 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: great just because we offer opportunities to foreigners because and 512 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: apparently that's what vec entire rationale is to Avect. The 513 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: idea that America is so generous to everyone in the world. Well, 514 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: that's a recent thing that only existence since the Heart 515 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: Seller Act was overturning nineteen sixty five. Before then, I 516 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: guess it was a terrible place because it was so 517 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: so homogeneously you know, Western European. It must really hurt 518 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 2: Vavec's feelings. That the founding fathers, who is constantly sorely 519 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: talking about in the First Congress, those you know, those 520 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: people who created the Constitution. One of their first acts 521 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: was sitting there and saying that only white people could 522 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: be citizens. That was one of their first things, was 523 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 2: excluding other people. It was very much part of what 524 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: it was to be an American in that time in 525 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: the Preamble of the Constitution, it says, we the people 526 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: United States, in order to make a form a more 527 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: perfect union, established justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the 528 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings 529 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. That is literally 530 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: in the preamble of the Constitution, our descendants, our lineage, 531 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: and the first citizenship, you know, which was towards whites. 532 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: That didn't change to add to blacks of the eighteen seventies, 533 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 2: And even when it was added to blacks during the reconstruction, 534 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: it was not added to non non non blacks. 535 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Non whites. 536 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 2: It was not added to everyone in the entire world 537 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: that was barred in until nineteen fifty two and from 538 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: the countries, and that the countries of the world weren't 539 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: allowed to immigrate to America until nineteen sixty five. So 540 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: this ideal that Evec speaks of, that, you know, this 541 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: founding principle of America was based on if his family 542 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: could get here. That is a relatively new concept. It 543 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: is divorced from the original founding documents and the original 544 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: founding fathers. You know, this idea is younger than my 545 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: parents are. If America is only a set of ideals, 546 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: if it's only a list of principles of Vecroamaswami can 547 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: get published in the New York Times, and it has 548 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the people who have lived here, 549 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: who have built it. Why has it been tried in 550 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: other countries and failed? Why can't you just make in 551 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: America anywhere if it's just the ideas. Liberia in Africa 552 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: literally was founded on a copy of the American Constitution, 553 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 2: and for the fierce few presents of Liberia were all 554 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: American and it currently has a GDP per capital. 555 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: Of nine hundred dollars a year. No one is knocking 556 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: on the door to move to Liberia. They're just not. 557 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: If Eveka's so sure America is just an idea, then 558 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: why hasn't he gone to all the places in the world. 559 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: You could have made tons of money just making new Americas. 560 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: They would be would have been, you know, an investor's 561 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: dream to have prosperity and tranquility and peace and prosperity everywhere, 562 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: booming markets. Why is it the people who believe in 563 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: the idea always seem to come here instead of bringing 564 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: those ideas back to their parents' native country. While it's 565 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: true that anyone can become an American, especially over many generations, 566 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: it is not true that it can be done at 567 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: the scale of millions per year. You cannot just have 568 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: the same country with the different people. Yes, Ion or 569 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: Shi Ali, Denesh Dsuza, Louis von Meses, Jerry Springer all 570 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: moved here became fully American. You can absolutely assimilate the individual. 571 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: We can have a diverse population who come here, who 572 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time here, who spend generations here, 573 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: who fully integrate and fully marry, and all the rest 574 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: of it, because the root of Americans. But you cannot 575 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: do that at a scale where the entire nations population 576 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: is being replaced or being dwarfed, right, because the root 577 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: of Americans identity is the American people. If you ever 578 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: replace a majority of Americans with any other population in 579 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: the world, I don't care if they're Russian or Palestinians, 580 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: or Indians or Chinese or Nigerians anywhere, Brazilians, anywhere, you 581 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: will no longer have the United States will if you 582 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: replace our population now, you will even with the same ideals, 583 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: you will have the same level of corruption, the same 584 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: level of welfare, you will have less free, less prosperous. 585 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: And less tolerant people, a less toleran nation. 586 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: This has been studied over and over and over again 587 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: by the way that mass diversity, not only since there 588 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: on influx a large amount of social distrust among people 589 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: who look like you, look different than you, they look 590 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: a lot like you. Right two thousand and Robert putne 591 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: seminal work Bowling alone. He says, when you push more 592 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: diversity into a community, the fewer people vote, the less 593 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: they volunteer, the less they give to charity, and the 594 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: less they trust one another. Growth for the sake of 595 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: growth is the ideology of cancer cells, libertarians and open 596 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: border activists. Bevec isn't putting out this ideology because it's true. 597 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: He is doing it because he thinks it's his way 598 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: of rejecting Nick Fouentes and ropers and racism and anti 599 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: semitism and all those horrible things. But he's saying it 600 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: because if you reject those things which you should reject, 601 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: it means you have no connection to this ancestors, to 602 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: what they built, to this innate heritage that you may 603 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: feel pride in. Right, you feel pride that your ancestors, 604 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: and you are part of a collective change. Literally in 605 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: Russell Kirk's book about Conservatism of the Conservative Mind, this 606 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: is innately how we feel. 607 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Why do heritage. 608 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: Americans feel a certain way about America that is different 609 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: than immigrants. It's like asking why do you feel different 610 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: way about your wife than a relative does. It's just different, 611 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: and that's okay, And it's okay, by the way, to 612 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: be a recent immigrant. It's okay to be a minority 613 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: in this country. We allow it. We allow them to prosper, 614 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: we allow them to thrive, we allow them to be 615 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: fully American. 616 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: And have equal rights as us. 617 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: That's a great thing, but it has to be done 618 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: in scale and in proportion, and a little bit, just 619 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: one ounce of thank you. I am so proud of 620 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: part of this experiment, this part of this nation that 621 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: other people build so I can enjoy, would be very 622 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: very nice. And for all the people in the media 623 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: clapping for a back that they say the speech was wonderful, 624 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: which is such a great speech. Those who are falling 625 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: for a con artist, like you know, Mark Theessen, who's 626 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: been NonStop talking about how wonderful and all these founders 627 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: from Silicon Valley. They are all people who just can't 628 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: we replaced Americans with robots. You believe you are taking 629 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: a noble stand for American print. I understand and why 630 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: you're doing while you're clapping for a vec. You believe 631 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: that you are taking a stand that is in Reagan's 632 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: vision against what the gropers say that you are the saint. 633 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: But I it's hard for me to explain to these people. 634 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 2: You are of a certain age where you are not 635 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: speaking anything to these young people who feel isolated, who 636 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: are being lured into gropers. You're not doing a single 637 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: ounce of service to what you believe you are fighting 638 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: for when you clap for the vec Ramaswami, Because you 639 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: say to a young person whose family has been here 640 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: for two or three hundred years, for somebody who doesn't 641 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: do a ton of history research, doesn't do a ton 642 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: of ancestor researchers, knows that they have pride, their family 643 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: has been from this country for a very very long 644 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: time and sacrificed. And then you tell him that he 645 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: doesn't have any more right to this country, or he 646 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: doesn't have any more identity of this country, a country 647 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: that not only the only that he is known, but 648 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: the only one that anyone in his living relatives have 649 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: ever known. He doesn't have any more connection and identity 650 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: that part of himself than someone who just showed up yesterday, 651 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: who did not take a freaking test to see how 652 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: American they are. They believe that they are equal standing. 653 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: And then you say in the next breath that Jews 654 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: deserve their own state because of either political reasons or 655 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: religious reasons. I promise you you are making it radical. 656 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: You are turning him into something. You might as well 657 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: sign him up to to be a grayber personally. And 658 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: for the record, I one hundred percent support the Jewish 659 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: date of Israel and believe they should have their own autonomy. 660 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm not questioning that. I'm not sitting there and saying 661 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: this because you know it's opened up the door to 662 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: another question. But Israel, it's not that about. 663 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: That at all. 664 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: You have to see yourself as an older millionaire telling 665 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: a younger person that they do not have a connection 666 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: that is special to their country, and it is equal 667 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: to somebody whose mother was on a temporary work visa 668 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: and popped out a baby. You might as well be 669 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: injecting them with anti Semitic feelings in real time clapping 670 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: for viveg on this. You might as well subscribe them 671 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 2: to Nick point as a show personally, to Nick, to Cannas, 672 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: to Tucker, to everyone you think has too much influence 673 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: and you know that they are toxic people that they 674 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: should be, you know, purge from society. Go tell a 675 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 2: kid whose family has been here for two hundred years 676 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: and feel special pride that they are as equally as 677 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: American as someone who came on a diversity viza from 678 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: Portugal or Afghanistan in the last few weeks and commit 679 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: an act of terrorism. You are so so you're doing 680 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: so much damage. You're not helping anyone in this very 681 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: tense part of the conservative movement. That is very tense 682 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 2: time in the conservative movement. It is the people who 683 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: make this country, not some random checklists of vague platitudes 684 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: like live, laugh, love that avec assembled. I'm going to 685 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: close by asking why you really think but bec has 686 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 2: started to inject himself on this conversation when he's going 687 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: on cable news or writing out beds or speaking at 688 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: turning point? Why did he inject himself because he wants 689 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: to take out a position showing he's not JD Vance, 690 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: who has talked about how a lineage matters in this country. 691 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: He is not like the hardliners because he believes that 692 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: he can run for president. It's all it's about, literally, 693 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: all it's about. It's about sitting there and saying, if 694 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: JD goes down in twenty twenty eight for whatever reason, 695 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: then he has a primetime chance of being president. It's 696 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: all about power, it's all about influence. It's nothing but 697 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: America or it's people. It comes down to all about Vivek. 698 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: That's all he is interested in is himself. It's always 699 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 2: ever been interested in. Ask Me Anything is coming up next. 700 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: Now it's time to Ask Me Anything segment. If you 701 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: want to part of the Ask Me Anything segment, please 702 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: emil me Ryan at Numbers gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan 703 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: at Numbers Game podcast dot com. This message comes from Brock. 704 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: He said, Hey, Ryan, it's me again. 705 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: Brock. Thank you for email me again. 706 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: I continue to wait on the edge of my seat 707 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: for your podcast every time it comes out. I'm curious 708 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: about your prediction of the future of Byron Donald's Florida congressman. 709 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: Before President Trump was elected. I heard Byron Donald's give 710 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: the Best clearest and most eccinct explanation of Donald Trump's 711 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: policies that I've ever heard, and I assuming my part 712 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: of the Trump administration surprised when he didn't. What are 713 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: your thoughts about his future aspirations president or governor or 714 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: cabinet position. Hope you enjoy Christmas. I hope you enjoy Christmas, 715 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: or passover, Brock or whatever. You're doing well. Obviously, he's 716 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: running for governor, and he is leading candidate in the 717 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: Republican primary, though he's not actually doing as well as 718 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: I thought he would be doing in the polling, given 719 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: how early he has run and how much money he has. 720 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: But he's doing fine. He's very likely to win. He's 721 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: the odds on favor to win right now and firm there. 722 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: Where does he go? It's very hard to sit there 723 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: and say, Brock. 724 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of what being present is and 725 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: running for president is is just simple timing. Let's say, 726 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 2: for argument's sake, right, complete arguments sake, and let's just 727 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 2: say Rondo Santas as well, Let's say the sand and 728 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: Byron Donalds as example, Roonda Santa's governor from two thousand 729 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: and eighteen to twenty twenty six Byron Donalds from twenty 730 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: twenty six to two thousand and thirty four. Let's just 731 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: make those the two that sixteen year period. Let's say 732 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: JD runs for president twenty twenty eight and loses, Well, 733 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: Rohonda Santas can run. I mean he was just governor 734 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: just you know, he just sted out as being governor 735 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: two years ago, two years before that. So he can 736 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: sit there and get in the news, and he will 737 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: have a six year period. We'll have to sit there 738 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: and you know, be interesting and be there. Well, he 739 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 2: likely win, probably not, but he will have that window. 740 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: Still. 741 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 2: Now, let's say JD wins, and he wins for two terms, Well, 742 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: then you're asking Ron desanta Is to stay relevant in 743 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 2: people's minds for almost a decade. It becomes close to impossible. 744 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: Right And likewise, if JD runs in twenty twenty eight 745 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: and loses, well then you're asking Byron Donalds to all 746 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: of a sudden inject himself as a possible presidential candidate 747 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 2: within a term and a half like Ronda Santas did. 748 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: Or you're asking him or or I JD evans win 749 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: and he goes to twenty thirty six, Well then then 750 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: you have to. He has to keep himself relevant like 751 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley did for two more years. So it's really 752 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: about timing. It's very you know it, and what is 753 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: exciting right now does not mean it's going to be 754 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: exciting in four years from now, six years from now. 755 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: As far as elected officials go, Carrie A. 756 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: Lake was, you know, the biggest star of twenty seventeen 757 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and now the idea of her running for 758 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: higher office is laughable. You know, people burn out, and 759 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: people come up, and people are special for a moment, 760 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: and when the window closes, it closed, and it's not 761 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: always your choice. So I don't know what's in Byron 762 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: Donald's future it aside from the likelihood of becoming governor 763 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: of Florida, and he just has to do a good job. 764 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: He can't reverse all the games that Ron Desant has 765 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: made for him. If he does, if he does a 766 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: terrible job, well then you know, likelihood of him becoming 767 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: president is very thinned. 768 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: That's the best answer I have. 769 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: We don't really know except for being governor and as 770 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: far as becoming a cabinet official, I guess he probably 771 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: didn't want anything, because I'm sure he could have flought 772 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: for something if he wanted it. 773 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: But I'm sure you want to be up anyway. Thank 774 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: you for listening to this episode of the podcast. Please 775 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: like and subscribe. Please like and subscribe. 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