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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

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Speaker 1: Christ is King, ladies and you all, and welcome on board.

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Speaker 1: Today we have a very special edition of Human Events

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Speaker 1: Daily for you over here live in Washington, DC. Today

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Speaker 1: is October thirtieth, twenty twenty five. That is Mischief Night,

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Speaker 1: as we used to call it in Philly. And look

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Speaker 1: we are here at General Flynn's New Media Summit. Today

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Speaker 1: is all about independent media. It's all about disrupting the narrative.

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Speaker 1: It's about getting the truth out. And we're so glad

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Speaker 1: that Real America's voice, Human Events Daily are able to

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Speaker 1: be here and to be a part of this great

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Speaker 1: summit because we're meeting with people from all across the

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Speaker 1: spectrum and in fact all across the world, even some

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Speaker 1: folks who are joining us from Ukraine that are here

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Speaker 1: that have been on the front lines. They're going to

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Speaker 1: tell us the truth and give us ground truth, including

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Speaker 1: video people who go to the front lines, so people

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Speaker 1: that go into even occupied areas to tell us what's

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Speaker 1: actually going on behind those lines in ways that the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media just will not do.

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Speaker 4: This is the force multiplier.

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Speaker 1: This is how you can be a truth aggregator, how

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Speaker 1: you can actually get the facts, spread it out using

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Speaker 1: social media, using independent networks like Real America's Voice over

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Speaker 1: the Top, and then going and telling that story. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to be here holding this summit, this meeting

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Speaker 1: of the minds. James o'keeith is here, Lara Logan is here,

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Speaker 1: Ava Vlar is here. We've got incredible, incredible lineup for you.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to be having awe and we're going

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Speaker 1: to be showing that on Real America's Voice all throughout

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Speaker 1: the day. But then also we are going to be

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Speaker 1: doing a sit down right now with General Flynn himself,

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Speaker 1: my former director when I was a DIA intelligence analyst,

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Speaker 4: Because this is what.

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Speaker 1: It's all about, the interplay between information and truth and policy.

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Speaker 4: We've seen over.

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Speaker 1: The last ten years, the lies from the mainstream media,

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Speaker 1: the lies from the intelligence community, and we're fighting them

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Speaker 1: every single day yesterday. The revelations that came out about

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Speaker 1: the FBI's operation are Frost, the targeting of TPOSA, the

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Speaker 1: targeting even of my pillow and their banks, and Mike Lindell.

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Speaker 1: This is the situation that we've been through, We were

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Speaker 1: living through a version of the American Stazi. General Flynn

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Speaker 1: he was attacked for that, and he was raked over

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Speaker 1: the colls for that. But we're so glad that he's

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Speaker 1: here to sit down with us today at Human Events

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Speaker 1: Daily to be able to understand that, to sit down

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Speaker 1: really excited to be here with General Flynn forget another

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Speaker 4: General, thank you for having me, absolutely, Jack, and thanks

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Speaker 1: So tell us about what is the purpose and the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, a couple of years ago, I had a

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Speaker 5: great conversation with a group of some of these podcasters

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Speaker 5: presidency because guys like you and others that are that

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Speaker 5: we've got to save America, right. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: the big picture, Jack, is everybody sees the threat that

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Speaker 5: today's censorship and how do we work together. So this

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Speaker 6: Of people that are going to be in here.

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Speaker 5: This is just just a sort of an open form,

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Speaker 5: He's really taken on the institutions of government, certainly in

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Speaker 5: burning these institutions of government. And I think the rise

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Speaker 5: The one thing that and I'll get off my dime here.

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Speaker 5: There are people in here that have audiences of seventy

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Speaker 5: The people that have seventy five thousand, those are deeply

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Speaker 5: it's regionally, but we certainly have you know, global representation

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Speaker 6: Because thank God that we have Elon musk and.

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Speaker 5: And he opened up X opened up, you know, bought

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Speaker 5: He and I wrote the book on fifth generation warfare,

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Speaker 1: And even before we get into that, I was going

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Speaker 1: You've seen how the flow of information and by the way,

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Speaker 4: You know the battlefield right there. Who's winning, right?

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Speaker 6: Exactly exactly.

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Speaker 5: And I think the word that I would capture with

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Speaker 5: If you want to continue in this world where people

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Speaker 1: watching when he goes and does these debates.

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Speaker 4: So to do it on live video that.

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Speaker 1: Way, not you know, not when he's getting in or

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Speaker 1: out of a car or something. It's meant as a

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Speaker 1: form of an asymmetric attack, isn't it on everyone who's watching.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's intentional. It's very intentional. And to try to

447
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Speaker 5: strike fear. I mean that's what an act of terror is,

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Speaker 5: an active terrorism is my definition, is meant to strike

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Speaker 5: fear in the hearts and minds of whatever it is

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Speaker 5: that that's been attacked, you know, society, of a religion, whatever,

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Speaker 5: And that's the whole purpose of it.

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Speaker 6: So that's it's to strike fear.

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Speaker 5: And frankly, what I have seen since Charlie's murder as

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Speaker 5: I've seen young people standing strong and that's encouraging to me.

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Speaker 5: Who's who is a guy who you know kind of

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Speaker 5: you know, getting long in the tooth, but still fighting

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Speaker 5: for this country, but still fighting for this country. By

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Speaker 5: by seeing these young people who are sort of the

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Speaker 5: you know, the future Charlie Kirks in different places like

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Speaker 5: it's like, you know, it's like the apostles, right, they

461
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Speaker 5: get annointed and then they go around the world to

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Speaker 5: preach the gospel.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: So that to me is very very encouraging, and that's

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Speaker 5: that's a legacy, and that's something that we want to encourage.

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Speaker 5: That's why I think that this is another reason why

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Speaker 5: this this trial needs to.

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Speaker 6: Be very transparent.

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Speaker 1: They're telling me the time, but if I, if I

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Speaker 1: have just time for one more question. This this dust

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Speaker 1: up that we've seen between you know, and it's sort

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Speaker 1: of going after these left wing networks. They're talking about

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Speaker 1: a dust up FBI, n CTC people arguing over who's

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Speaker 1: got authority to go after these networks, et cetera. What

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Speaker 1: would you say to come in from your perspective, having

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Speaker 1: been in the ic, having been a leader, there is

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Speaker 1: there a way to get over these turf battles. Is

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Speaker 1: there a way to set up, you know, a JTF

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Speaker 1: or something, Because at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 1: about disrupting the networks and keeping people safe, not about

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Speaker 1: who gets credit.

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Speaker 5: In fact, if you're worried about who gets credit, then

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Speaker 5: we're in the you're in the wrong business.

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Speaker 6: You know, credit will come when others give it to you. Right.

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Speaker 5: So, first of all, this latest dust up, the way

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Speaker 5: I understood it was that there was a meeting in

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Speaker 5: the in the White House, in the.

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Speaker 6: Situation Room, and it was leaked. It was leaked, so

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Speaker 6: there's a so there's a crime right there.

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Speaker 5: So somebody, somebody said what happened in that meeting to

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Speaker 5: the media. So everybody that was in that meeting should

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Speaker 5: be given a one time polly.

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Speaker 6: So that's what I would do.

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Speaker 5: So if I was the Vice President of the States

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Speaker 5: or the president, I would say, get everybody back in there, and.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'll give you the question.

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Speaker 5: Give them a one time polly to see who leaked

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Speaker 5: got information to I think it was to the Washington Post, right,

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Speaker 5: I think that was the first or the times one

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Speaker 5: of it was one of the first ones that I

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Speaker 5: had seen, number one. So that's okay, get that off

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Speaker 5: the table. But I do think that clearly the FBI

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Speaker 5: has jurisdiction. So it's a jurisdictional issue. But there's too

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Speaker 5: many questions out there that still remain. So instead of

505
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Speaker 5: having an infighting and who's going to get credit for what,

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Speaker 5: I think the bigger question is, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, what do we believe.

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Speaker 5: So I look at myself as an American citizen, what

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Speaker 5: are the American citizens believe right now that are here

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Speaker 5: and these people represent you know, seventy five million of them, right,

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Speaker 5: So what do they believe?

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Speaker 6: They believe that there's more to it.

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Speaker 5: So I think from the perspective of the administration and

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Speaker 5: the perspective of certainly the Department of Justice, that ought

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Speaker 5: to just be Look, we're looking at everything. We are

516
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Speaker 5: looking at every single angle, not just of the trajectory

517
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Speaker 5: of the bullet, but we're looking at every angle of

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Speaker 5: this investigation. We are going to dig, dig, dig, because

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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk deserves it. Okay, his legacy deserves it. The

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Speaker 5: American people deserve it. The people that Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 6: Was leading, you know, as a huge movement, they deserve it.

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Speaker 5: So if something comes, you know, if new evidence becomes available,

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Speaker 5: we're not gonna close this thing. We're not gonna shut

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Speaker 5: our eyes and say open and shut case. It's a

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Speaker 5: done deal. I think if they if they said that

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Speaker 5: to the American people, I think that that that the American.

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Speaker 6: People go, Okay, that you know, we're going to trial.

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Speaker 6: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna One of one of the constructs that i've

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Speaker 1: you know, that I've been pitching is let's get a

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Speaker 1: joint in our agency task force and have it not

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Speaker 1: just on this, but on all left wing that violence.

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Speaker 5: All networks probably have something like that, So I might

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Speaker 5: you know, they you know, Cash and Dan are too

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Speaker 5: smart to not do something like that. The the intel community,

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Speaker 5: you know, the people that are going to say they

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Speaker 5: My guess.

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Speaker 6: Is they probably have that.

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Speaker 5: The challenge is is that you're gonna you're gonna get

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Speaker 5: different things. I mean, we cannot deny the things that

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Speaker 5: we have seen, right, so videos and such you can't

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Speaker 5: deny is back to the back to the truth and discernment.

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Speaker 5: So all the I think, all that I get, I'll

544
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Speaker 5: get it all the time is just let us know

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Speaker 5: that there's an open investigation.

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Speaker 6: We're looking at everything. And I think if that was

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Speaker 6: the answer, I think.

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Speaker 5: The I think everybody would would. They wouldn't shut up

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Speaker 5: and go home, but they would at least temper down

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Speaker 5: and say, Okay, the FBI's got this, and I believe

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Speaker 5: that they do. But I do believe that there's you know,

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Speaker 5: there's other things that must be looked at.

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Speaker 6: It has to be looked at because we have already.

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Speaker 5: Learned this with the assassinations of many people going back

555
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Speaker 5: to the sixties, right, and we've.

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Speaker 6: Learned this with other school shootings.

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Speaker 5: When we look at the cell phone of an individual

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Speaker 5: and we see that that person did something they're in

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Speaker 5: touch with, there's no doubt factual now that there are

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Speaker 5: other connections to these shooters that are out there there.

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Speaker 1: Your staff has giving me the look you're You've been

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Speaker 1: incredibly generous with your time. Thank you so much, and.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 5: Today's Jack, Where's Jack?

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Speaker 6: Where is it Jack?

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Speaker 5: I want to see you.

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Speaker 6: Great job Jack, Thank you?

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Speaker 1: What the job you do?

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Speaker 4: What's up, Ava?

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Speaker 3: Hi Jack, It's great to see you.

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Speaker 1: Now, Do I have this correct? When was the last

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Speaker 1: time you were in the United States?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: So the last time I was in the United States

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Speaker 7: was the nineteenth of December twenty twenty three at America Fest.

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Speaker 1: America Fest with you hosting human events daily.

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Speaker 4: Well look at.

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Speaker 1: This, I remember we had we had the American Shop

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Speaker 1: coming on you remember that.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, My husbands keeps on saying that he

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Speaker 3: wants to meet him. So I'm happy you bring that up. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he's like, I need to meet.

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Speaker 1: That man your husband was Why is he going to

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Speaker 1: meet him?

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Speaker 7: Because he's like, it's to him, my husband's Italian, right,

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Speaker 7: It's like the most incredible.

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Speaker 3: Thing a guy like that, like the way he's dressed.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I need to understand this man.

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Speaker 7: I need to understand his psych I need to understand

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Speaker 7: American politics, and then.

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Speaker 1: Really good friends with him, so far as please set

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Speaker 1: that up. And I think he's out in Arizona anyway,

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Speaker 1: So after you have to come back, we have to

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Speaker 1: come back to Amfest and then and then you can

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Speaker 1: meet him.

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Speaker 4: Oh I would.

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Speaker 3: Love to all right.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to say no, of course not.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to say though, you know, you gave

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Speaker 1: me a very nice call after after Charlie's murder, and

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Speaker 1: even even beyond that on a personal level. You gave

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Speaker 1: a speech at the Tommy Robinson rally, I think, just

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Speaker 1: three days after Charlie's assassination. Tell us what it felt

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Speaker 1: like to be up there, how many people were there,

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Speaker 1: and and just from a personal level, than thank you

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Speaker 1: for doing that and turning that into this sort of

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Speaker 1: interesting interplay of Western civilization. Charlie, what he stood for,

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Speaker 1: everything the movement stands for. I mean, you can't even

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Speaker 1: really put into words what that moment was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, thank you for bringing it up,

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Speaker 7: because that rally, I mean it was of course, it

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Speaker 7: was completely transformed after this.

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Speaker 4: Was already said.

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Speaker 3: It was already set. You know, for weeks even.

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Speaker 1: We were thinking maybe well I go and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: we were thinking about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Tommy Robinson organized it and it was like it called

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Speaker 7: the United the Kingdom Rally, so it was very a nationalist,

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Speaker 7: you know event.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was eighteen rally.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I was thinking, you know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: go back and do another one, you know, yeah, yeah, next.

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Speaker 4: Time you should will.

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Speaker 7: But it was you know, of course we were expecting

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Speaker 7: people to come out waving their flags, talking about things

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Speaker 7: like remigration. And when I went there, I saw, of

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Speaker 7: course a sea of flags, but I also saw Charlie's

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Speaker 7: portrait like everywhere, everywhere, So it completely transformed the event

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Speaker 7: in and of itself, like and personally, I mean I

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Speaker 7: told you on the phone right that it was. It

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Speaker 7: was genuinely different this time. I was, for the first

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Speaker 7: time not excited to go because spirits were just so heavy.

663
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: You know, we were afraid, we were sad.

664
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 7: And it just we were only thinking about Charlie and

665
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 7: what had happened.

666
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: And also on a personal note.

667
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 7: Like if I'm honest with my husband and I, you know,

668
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 7: when we saw the images of what happened to Charlie

669
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 7: and in the days afterwards, we're just set crying and

670
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 7: also scared, scared like, okay, this just happened to one

671
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 7: of our bravest warriors, and now we're settled to go

672
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 7: to London and stand on the stage.

673
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: You know, at a.

674
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 7: Protest, it's not outside, not out inside, it's outside, and

675
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 7: there is no you know, there's no way that you

676
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 7: know who's going to be in front of you there,

677
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 7: and of course millions of people were set to come,

678
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 7: so it was like I was a bit afraid for

679
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 7: the first time in my life, which is a feeling

680
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 7: that I don't know. Of course, you know, you get

681
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 7: nervous sometimes if you have to perform and you have

682
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 7: to go in front of a large audience. But this

683
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 7: was a totally different experience.

684
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 4: So why do it then?

685
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: Because we had.

686
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 7: To, you know, because if you then say, Okay, we're

687
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 7: not going to go, I'm not gonna go, then the

688
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 7: people who killed Charlie got what they wanted.

689
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: So we had to go.

690
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 7: And I'm really glad afterwards that we went because it

691
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 7: was incredible the energy that we felt there. I think

692
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 7: what happened to Charlie amplified that by number that I

693
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 7: can't even quantify. It was unlike anything that I've ever

694
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 7: seen before. And you have been to tons of political rallies.

695
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 7: I've been to tons of political rallies.

696
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: This one was different.

697
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 7: It was different, not just in numbers, it was different

698
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 7: in energy. And of course the media lies about it.

699
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 7: They were like I think the BBC was saying that

700
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 7: there were one hundred and ten thousand people there, which

701
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 7: is like funny because we had helicopters flying over. Everyone

702
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 7: with eyes can see the images. There were millions of

703
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 7: people out there in the beginning, like we spoke to

704
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 7: police officer officers who were saying, we think that there

705
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 7: are about three million people here. I mean, it was

706
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 7: definitely closer to that than to what the BBC said.

707
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: There's been some you know, undercurrents.

708
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: I think that.

709
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: Rose to the surface in not only Charlie's murder, but

710
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: in this rally with Tommy Robinson, this idea that we're

711
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: actually in a fight for Western civilization itself. And I

712
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: actually brought that up when I spoke at Charlie's memorial.

713
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: I say, I hope, I hope, and I actually believe

714
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: that one hundred years from now, two hundred years from now,

715
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: when they look back and they say how was Western

716
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: civilization saved? They will point back, and one of the

717
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: two or three moments that they'll point to was that

718
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: the murder of Charlie Kirk was what saved the West

719
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: because it galvanized people into what we were actually fighting for.

720
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right.

721
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 7: It transformed everything for everyone I think in this fight.

722
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 7: And of course we knew that this is a dangerous

723
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 7: fight to fight, right we were talking on the phone.

724
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 7: Of course, I called you because I wanted to know

725
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 7: as how you were doing personally, because I know you

726
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 7: were very close to Charlie.

727
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: But we were talking.

728
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 7: About like the what's at stake here and how we

729
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 7: were aware of that coming from the Netherlands, and you

730
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 7: knew both names. We talked about the political assassinations of

731
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 7: pimfort Down and dech and two of our most I

732
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 7: would say prominent political figures twenty years ago in my

733
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 7: country were assassinated, both of them in broad daylight. So

734
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 7: one of them, of course, was a right wing politician.

735
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 7: He was about to become the prime minister in the

736
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 7: next elections. That's how you know how popular he was,

737
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 7: how different maybe our fate would have looked if he

738
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 7: had in fact become the prime minister there, I think

739
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 7: quite different. And was a journalist who was very critical

740
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: of Islam, and he got murdered by niessimist and for

741
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 7: time got murdered by a climate activist. So two major

742
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 7: political assassinations more than twenty years ago.

743
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: I grew up.

744
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 7: Knowing that, So going into this always known, you know

745
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 7: that this is a real possibility that we are, you know,

746
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 7: on the read where we're arguing for freedom of speech,

747
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 7: we're arguing for freedom in general, we're arguing for our

748
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 7: national identity to preserve.

749
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: But on the other side, there are people who want

750
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: to kill us.

751
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: And those assassinations very correctly, they were in public.

752
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, both of them were in public.

753
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, I forget if I ever told you this,

754
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: but one of the very first political events that I

755
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: ever put together was on my college campus in two

756
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: thousand and nine when I brought your Wielders to campus

757
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: and he brought with him Lars Filkes, the cartoonists, right,

758
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and this is you know, we're coming up almost twenty

759
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: years ago. That and that's how I knew about this violence,

760
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: and that's how I knew about how horrific the situation

761
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: had become in the EU. And also at the same

762
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: time I understood that, you know, this fight is very serious.

763
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: This fight is absolutely lethal.

764
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: If you come out and speak the wrong thing.

765
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you can't stop just because

766
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: the enemy is angry. You can't stop just because you

767
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: made someone upset.

768
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 4: In fact, that.

769
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Shows you that what you're doing is potentially it's working,

770
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: it's gaining traction, you're actually winning.

771
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: In fact, it's actually a signal you should do more.

772
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 7: Of course, yeah, they wouldn't want to kill us if

773
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 7: they weren't afraid of us. So clearly there is power

774
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 7: within our voices and there's power within what we do,

775
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 7: and it's it would be the cowards way out right

776
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 7: if we were to stop. We have to continue doing

777
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 7: what is right, because we both know that this is

778
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 7: not just about politics.

779
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: This is a spiritual battle.

780
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 7: We are fighting for good, you know, we were fighting

781
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 7: for God and this is not the only life that

782
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 7: we will live.

783
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 3: So knowing that.

784
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 7: You really don't have another option, I think than to

785
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 7: continue and keep on trying to make change for the better.

786
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: And in Europe.

787
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 7: I mean, like I said, this is more than twenty

788
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 7: years ago that these two major assassinations happened in just

789
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 7: my small little country, right, but it.

790
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: Says a lot about the political.

791
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 7: Atmosphere there and it hasn't gotten better necessarily.

792
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the right wing, of course, is gaining ground.

793
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: Jack is a great guy.

794
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 5: He's written that fantastic look everybody's talking about it.

795
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Go get it that.

796
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 6: He's been my friend right.

797
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: From the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

798
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: We're going to turn her around and make her a gut.

799
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 6: Way to get them.

800
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: And we're back with avavar Ava of course, has abandoned

801
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: human events daily for the last couple of years.

802
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: She's she's run back to Europe.

803
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: But we we roped her back in and something.

804
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 7: Else to do, you know, got married, had a baby,

805
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 7: come on right, somebody who's running around saying, be a rebel,

806
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 7: start a family.

807
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: And then someone decided to listen these things.

808
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 4: I don't know how they happened. But but what's what's

809
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: amazing is so we've been talking.

810
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: About some of the obviously the horrific things that happened

811
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: to Charlie, the perfect things.

812
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: Happened to great patriots in your home country.

813
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: But there is something amazing that's happened, and that's been

814
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: in the wake of Charlie's murder, in the wake of

815
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: his assassin nation, we've seen this global movement, I.

816
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: Would say, of people who are now waking up to.

817
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: The real truth of leftist political violence that's going on

818
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: and Islami's political violence, which is also something that we're facing.

819
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: But at the same and you look at the people

820
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: talking about the grooming gangs in London, which has of

821
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: course been Tommy's story from day one, and the fact

822
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: that that is now a mainstream story, a mainstream scandal

823
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: Kirstamer of course pushing these crazy Netflix videos to try

824
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: to know it's it's white children and white boys, that's

825
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: who's doing it, and people can see the truth. And

826
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: there is now a youth movement that's to my mind

827
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: as an outsider, it seems like it's all across Europe,

828
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: fighting for remigration, fighting for truth, for the just the

829
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: historic native lands of the European people, which is something

830
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: that if you said publicly ten years ago, I mean,

831
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: you would be censored, you'd be banned, you'd be silenced,

832
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: to be awesome from society, And now it's the number

833
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: one movement. Tell us what's going on.

834
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 7: I mean the things that builders, for example, was villifyte

835
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 7: four for so many years?

836
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: Was it like a pordn't send it there?

837
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: Right?

838
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: As we always say, he was completely ostracized.

839
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 7: Those things are like nothing compared to the stuff that

840
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 7: we now say on the right. Right, Like he was

841
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 7: just saying like, okay, you know, no, like you know,

842
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 7: we're not just talking anymore about like, oh, maybe there

843
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 7: are some cultural differences between people who come from you know,

844
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 7: an Islamic background and Christians. We were saying, no, look,

845
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 7: we're about to become minorities in our own countries.

846
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: We need remigration.

847
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: Like city right now, we say in New York City,

848
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: right now, we're next week we are going to have

849
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: a foreign born Muslim will become and I think more

850
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: than likely will become the mayor of America's greatest city.

851
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: Right.

852
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: No, but we are having That's the thing.

853
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 7: I think that's it's really it's a good sign, right

854
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 7: that we have all these young people. Especially also what

855
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 7: what happened to Charlie. I think it was the ultimate

856
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 7: sign once again that it doesn't matter how reasonable you are,

857
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 7: because Charlie was an extremely reasonable young man, right. I

858
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 7: think that I could count myself more put in your

859
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 7: side of the of the game in that sense, but

860
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 7: they still killed him.

861
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 6: Right.

862
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 7: So I think that that's what people so realize now

863
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 7: that you might as well just say what you really

864
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 7: want to say. And so if things have become more normalized,

865
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 7: the Overton window has been pushed. We in Europe are

866
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 7: having actual conversations now, which is absolutely necessary, about how

867
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 7: civic nationalism just doesn't work, not at this rate. You know,

868
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 7: like we cannot talk about assimilation and integration of millions

869
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 7: and millions of foreign young men.

870
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work.

871
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 7: Once white people in their own homelands become minorities, we

872
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 7: have a real issue on our hands, right because that

873
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 7: means that those countries are not going to be the

874
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 7: countries that they always have been.

875
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example that we're seeing in

876
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: New York right now, because when you look at this race,

877
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: so there's two Democrats that are in the lead, there's

878
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: also one Republican, and so it's a split three way race.

879
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: But we look at the two Democrats, the native born

880
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: New Yorkers are going for Cuomo, who is the son

881
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: of the former governor, and he was a former governor himself.

882
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 1: The foreign born New Yorkers are almost one hundred percent

883
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Speaker 1: in lockstep for the immigrant candidate. And this guy is

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Speaker 1: as far left as they come. He is a cultural Marxist.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, people say, oh no, it's just

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Speaker 1: about economics and housing, and that's all he cares about.

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Speaker 1: You could go look at his timeline. This guy is

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Speaker 1: targeted white people. He said that, he said the NYPD

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Speaker 1: is the tool of the IDF. He says that he

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Speaker 1: is going to confiscate the wealth, specifically from white people

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Speaker 1: and hand it out to everybody else. He had a

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Speaker 1: line in twenty twenty he said the Black and Brown

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Speaker 1: Alliance will defeat white supremacy. He's been very clear about

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Speaker 1: where he stands, and yes, he's charming, and he puts

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Speaker 1: on these affectations like, oh, he's just a nice, normal,

896
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Speaker 1: regular guy. But you can just go roll back the

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Speaker 1: clock to oh, I don't know about six months ago,

898
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Speaker 1: and he's been using all of this rhetoric. This is

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Speaker 1: I keep saying, it's Radio Rwanda for white people. And

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what's going to happen in New York City

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Speaker 1: when he becomes mayor. And I think it's because you

902
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Speaker 1: guys in Europe have seen all of these issues across

903
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Speaker 1: so many cities, obviously London national level.

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Speaker 7: We're not just talking about the big cities anymore. And

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Speaker 7: that's I think what people of New York need to understand.

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Speaker 7: It's not just New York like, it's gonna come to

907
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Speaker 7: the countryside too. If you look at what is happening

908
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Speaker 7: in Europe, all of the assaults that we're talking about, right,

909
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Speaker 7: the rapes, the murders, they used to happen in the

910
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Speaker 7: big cities alone. Let's say twenty years ago, we already

911
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Speaker 7: saw that connection between crime and immigration.

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Speaker 3: Now it's happening in the countrysides. So the message I

913
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Speaker 3: think that the people are in Ireland everywhere. So the

914
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Speaker 3: message that.

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Speaker 7: The people are pushing this agenda I want to give

916
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Speaker 7: you is that you can't hide like that little you know,

917
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Speaker 7: a quaints Dutch town with the wind mills and the back.

918
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Speaker 3: You're not safe there either anymore.

919
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Speaker 7: Like that, that's over and so of course you need

920
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Speaker 7: to stop it now in New York before it spreads

921
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Speaker 7: out and you're not safe anywhere anymore.

922
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Speaker 3: Because that is our situation now.

923
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Speaker 7: We are no longer in the position to say, okay,

924
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Speaker 7: we need to close the borders.

925
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Speaker 3: And that's fine, that that's enough. It's not going to

926
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Speaker 3: be enough.

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Speaker 7: Like with our demographics in northwestern Europe, every single country

928
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Speaker 7: is heading for becoming a minority in their own like

929
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Speaker 7: for the native population to become a minority in their

930
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Speaker 7: own country by the end of this century, and oftentimes

931
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Speaker 7: even before the first half.

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Speaker 3: Of this century ends, so we're talking twenty five years.

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Speaker 4: You look at the school classes, these photos.

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Speaker 1: Of you know, here's here's what this school class looks like. Kindergarten,

935
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Speaker 1: first grade, second grade, third grade, and suddenly you're saying,

936
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Speaker 1: wait a minute. You know, if I'm you know, if

937
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at look at the other side, where are

938
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Speaker 1: the Dutch kids. I'm looking at at England, So where

939
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Speaker 1: the British kids? Where we look at Ireland? Where are

940
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Speaker 1: the Irish kids?

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Speaker 3: And why wouldn't be allowed to say that we want that?

942
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Speaker 7: Why wouldn't we, as Dutch people, as a Dutch native

943
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Speaker 7: people say, be able to say we want the Netherlands

944
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Speaker 7: to stay Dutch. Why wouldn't we be able to say

945
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Speaker 7: we want Germany to say German. We want France to

946
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Speaker 7: say French. You know, that's I think it's common sense,

947
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Speaker 7: and I think it's it's fair.

948
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Speaker 4: You never hear these issues with the Asian countries.

949
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Speaker 1: No one ever says about China or whatever says about

950
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Speaker 1: Japan or whenever said which which has incredibly low immigration.

951
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Speaker 1: China course has been having their economic boom without needing migrants.

952
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Speaker 4: Funny how that works that they're able to do so.

953
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Speaker 7: Diversity means less white people. This is specifically an agenda

954
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Speaker 7: targeting white people. And I can say that as a

955
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Speaker 7: European like, just look at the numbers. It's right there.

956
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Speaker 7: And that's something that I'm worried about and I would

957
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Speaker 7: like your opinion on that, Jack, like give us some advice,

958
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Speaker 7: because yes, it's true that we are now having these

959
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Speaker 7: discussions like we're pushing the Overton window. The youth is

960
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Speaker 7: waking up, but institutionally we're not gaining much ground, like

961
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Speaker 7: when we're talking about the regulations, when we're talking about

962
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Speaker 7: the EU, when we're talking about our governments, like this

963
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Speaker 7: is still happening, and we're running out of time.

964
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Speaker 3: Really really quickly.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know if the young generation that is

966
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Speaker 7: maybe has woken up to this fact, is going to

967
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Speaker 7: grow up fast enough to get into those positions of

968
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Speaker 7: power to make change.

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Speaker 3: That's like my main worry right now for for us.

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Speaker 1: Look, I would say, you just have to fight hard

971
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Speaker 1: and hold the line wherever it is and hold people's

972
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Speaker 1: feet to their fire. And you look, by the way,

973
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Speaker 1: it's that the youth movement in some countries has been

974
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Speaker 1: very successful.

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Speaker 4: You look at af Day, you even look at the

976
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Speaker 4: youth movement in Poland.

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Speaker 1: For example, Poland, a country which funny enough doesn't have

978
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Speaker 1: these problems because they never accepted the migrants. And when

979
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Speaker 1: I go to Poland, it's wonderful is there several times

980
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Speaker 1: this year for the election and then the inauguration of

981
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Speaker 1: no Vronsky, a huge, huge win. All of these issues

982
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Speaker 1: came up during the election. And it's perfectly safe when

983
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Speaker 1: you walk around Warsaw any time of night. Tante and

984
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Speaker 1: I got six million videos for just of a video

985
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Speaker 1: of us walking around on like a Saturday night at

986
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Speaker 1: midnight and everyone's out, they're having fun, no crime whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: And the economy is booming. It's absolutely booming.

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Speaker 1: And you look at their youth movement started with youth marches,

989
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Speaker 1: just like what Tommy did in London, and they were

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Speaker 1: able to leverage that into actually getting into political power

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Speaker 1: and from there now they have influenced on the institutions

992
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Speaker 1: because even if and in multiparty democracy, even if they

993
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Speaker 1: can't form a government, what they can do is be kingmakers.

994
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Speaker 1: What they can do is hold that influence. And I

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Speaker 1: look at everything that you're doing and so many of

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Speaker 1: the other freedom fighters. I'm going to come back to

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Speaker 1: Europe soon, We'll be there. It's great, av of Lar.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for rejoining your former podcast, Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily.

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Speaker 3: We should do this more often. Thanks Jack.