1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 3: Tuesday edition of Clay and Bucks starts right now. Busy 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: news day, much to get to also have some excellent guests. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 3: Let's talk guests just for a moment so you know 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 3: where we are heading. We'll have our friend Ryan Gerdusky 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: in the second hour of the program. 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: Just let you know. 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: He's got a piece up where he makes the case 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: that Trump is currently at this stage of a cycle, 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: including twenty sixteen cycle and twenty twenty, in the strongest 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: position he has ever been in to win the presidents 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: which is amazing on so many levels, based on the numbers, 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 3: based on what's going on in the Swing States. Ryan 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: will break that down. It's too early to you know, 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: do anything other than just look at this and take 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: it in. We're a year out year and you know, 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. But it's very interesting and we 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: wanted to address that with Ryan. Also the speaker fight 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: and that we just all wanted to end. We'll talk 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: to Ryan about that and Clay and I will have 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: some updates for you throughout the show. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: There's voting ongoing. 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: There are a few candidates who are still in the 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: mix you've had as of this morning, Byron Donald's of Florida, 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Tom Emmer of Minnesota, Kevin Hearn of Oklahoma, Mike Johnson 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: of Louisiana. You know, it's kind of a merry go 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 3: round situation here. We'll see who ends up as actually 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: speaker and then we can stop talking about it, which 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: would be fantastic. We'll discuss that, and we also have 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: a special guest we'll be joining in the third hour 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: of the program. Clint Romesha is a former staff sergeant 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 3: Medal of Honor recipient. He's gonna talk to us about 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: what he's doing to help veterans, some veterans programs he's 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: involved in. If you saw the movie The Outpost, Clint 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Eastwood's son, I think Scott Eastwood plays Romesha, and it's 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's a really harrowing tale of a very 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: long gun battle in Afghanistan, one of the longer ongoing 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: gun battles. So we will discuss firefights. We'll discuss that 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: coming up. Let's oh, also a news item here. Jenna 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: Ellis has pleaded guilty in the Georgia case. Now she 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: was involved in some capacity in the election stuff in 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, we'll get some of that, but she's just 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 3: getting five years of probation. I think it's interesting to 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: see that maybe they're just going to try to process 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: as many guilty pleased as possible. Okay, we'll get into 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: all of that, and I want to talk to Clay 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: about the legal realities there. But the updates we have 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: for you right now. On Israel, more air strikes over 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: the night, air strikes intensifying. Biden has said there won't 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: be a ceasefire in Gaza until after hostages are released. 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: He cut his remarks yesterday as he had to head 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: to the situation room. I thought this was interesting. Clay 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: Macron of France has said the international military coalition that 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: fought ISIS should come together to fight Hamas, meaning treating 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: Hamas like it is ISIS, but something else. And I 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: know that this kind of crosses over more into our 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: domestic political scene. Some of the pro Palestine stuff. I mean, 60 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: I want you to tell everybody you know where soccer 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: as now, soccer player Megan Rappino comes down. Some of 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: the pro Palestine stuff, like this very aggressive protest in 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: New York City that happened where there were arrests. Clay, 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: I see signs. I've got a sign in front of 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: me and hat tip end wokeness on Twitter, reproductive justice 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: means free Palestine. It's like we're watching the left have 67 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: a nervous breakdown in real time. I mean, what are 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: you seeing with some of this? The Rapino stuff? Is 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: I know something you've been talking. 70 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: To me about? Yeah, so a colleague sent me this 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: this morning. I woke up and obviously I'm not paying 72 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: attention to Meghan Rapino's friggin Instagram. God bless you if 73 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: you are and you happen to listen to us. I 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: would think the Vin diagram of paying attention to Megan 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: repinos Instagram and Clay and buck listeners is a completely 76 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: separate circles. But in the event that this overlaps. So. 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: Megan Rapino, for those of you who don't know, is 78 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: the US women's soccer player who refused to stand for 79 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: the national anthem because she said America is a fundamentally 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 2: racist place. She refused to take a trip to the 81 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 2: White House when Donald Trump invited the women's soccer team, 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: which won the championship in twenty nineteen. In France to 83 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: come to the White House to celebrate the fact that 84 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: they had won the World Cup. She refused to go. 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: She bullied, according to a lot of reports, other members 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: of the soccer team into making that same choice. She 87 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: tried to bully them all into kneeling. She is not 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: a good person in terms of the way that she's 89 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: used her platform in my opinion, politically, she's been divisive 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: and also a lot of you out there who do 91 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: pay attention to sports actually loved that. The final moment 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: of Megan Repino's World Cup career Buck was her air 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: mailing a penalty kick in the in the at the 94 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: end of the game to try to beat I think 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: it was I can't even remember Sweden. Maybe one of 96 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: those one of those, one of those countries beat us. 97 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: I think it was Sweden, But she airmailed. It went 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: far right, ironically enough on her on her miss, which 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: shouldn't happen obviously for a star in uh In in soccer. 100 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: So she is married to Sue byrd Buck who is 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: Sue Bird is I believe half Jewish and is it 102 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: has an Israeli passport. Sue Bird is a very talented 103 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: women's basketball player, Megan Repino, lesbian married to Sue Bird. 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: She is raising money on her Instagram account for people 105 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: in Gaza. Buck. She has a BLM headphoto, she has 106 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: her pronouns in her bio. Of course, she has the 107 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: gay Pride flag. I believe I'm trying to zoom in. 108 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: I can't tell for sure, but I think that's what 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: it is. And she is married to a Jewish woman 110 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: who has Israeli citizenship. That would be could have been 111 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: murdered if she had happened to be in that area 112 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: that Hamas invaded. She is a lesbian woman living and 113 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: married under the protections of the United States. She would 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: be murdered, probably stoned to death in Hamas for being 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: a lesbian who's married to an Israeli. I don't think 116 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: there's any doubt about this yet. The politics of her 117 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: branding is so broken that she is raising money for Hamas, 118 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: And I think all of those are a lot of 119 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: de tells, but I think it's emblematic of the collapse 120 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: of the entire identity politics universe. And I think there 121 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: I know this, there are tons of people listening to 122 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: us right now, Buck who are Jewish, who would have 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: never listened to us before, but have been tipped off, 124 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: gotten notification. Hey, these guys are one hundred percent right. 125 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: They're calling terrorist terrorists, and there's almost no one in 126 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: media who will do it. 127 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: It's crazy, you know, you see the conflation in a sense, 128 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: although I do there is some connective tissue with all 129 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: these causes other than just I think being wrong, being 130 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: wrong on the issue. 131 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: That's that's a connection. 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: But all of a sudden blm transwrites, you know, racial justice, 133 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: you know, climate change, anti colonialism, Palestine, all this stuff 134 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: is wrapped together, and you say, what is going on here? 135 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: Like what kind of mass delusion are people operating under? 136 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: HI mean, how could it, you know, reach this point? 137 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: And you also have something else going on that I 138 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: find I know why they're doing it. You know, Barack 139 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Obama put out a statement, right, and I think it 140 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: was like a reading list, right, he put out a 141 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: list of things to read. Well, he put out reading this, 142 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: But he also got a statement on the conflict. And 143 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 3: and there's this this thing now and you know, Tony Blincoln, 144 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: whom I have it on good authority from friends in 145 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: the national security side, on on the career side, is 146 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: an incompetent just for the just so you know, I 147 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: really ask people, I say, look, is I disagree with 148 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: the guy? But is he really sharp? Does he really 149 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: know you know what time it is? They say, no, 150 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: he's he's a kind of a classic company man for 151 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: the government buffoon. But Blincoln was doing the same thing 152 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: today in remarks this morning. And what they do is 153 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: they keep saying, oh, well, we want to remind Israel 154 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: to act in a in a humanitarian fashion, and this 155 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: just gives more you know, gives more cover in a 156 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: sense to the people walking around saying stop the genocide 157 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: in Gaza. There's no genocide going on in Gaza. 158 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: Okay. 159 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: If Hamas could commit a genocide in Israel, it would 160 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: do so, and it says it would do so. It 161 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: has shown us that it has the willingness based on 162 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: the actions of this terrorist attack. 163 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: But it says openly from the river to the sea, 164 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: get rid of all of the Jews. 165 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: It is calling for a genocide and ethnic cleansing of 166 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: Jews from the state of Israel. That is in it 167 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: is effectively Hamasa's charter. On the other side of things, 168 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 3: Israel is taking time to negotiate for hostages to work 169 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: with allies to try to, you know, limit when the 170 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: ground invasion starts civilian casualties, to prepare for the possibility 171 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: of a northern front. There's already been some exchanges of 172 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: rocket fire in the north with Hesbelah. Israel's making all 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: these preparations, and Barack Obama's putting out a statement to 174 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: tell Israel that it's in its interest to you know, 175 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: conduct itself in the most humanitarian fashion possible. Yeah, they know, Clay, 176 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like this is it's the 177 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: the the Babylon be put out a what do you 178 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: call a meme today that I thought really did get 179 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: to this, you know, and it was Emperor Hirohido calls 180 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: for ceasefire after bombing of Pearl Harbor. 181 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a. 182 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: Little bit of what we're seeing, you know, the ceasefire 183 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: calls after this mass casualty terror attack. If somebody was 184 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: calling for a ceasefire for nine eleven, you would have 185 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: thought that they were out of their mind or that 186 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: they were just nefarious and that they thought America, you know, 187 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: wanted it. Then what you're hearing now are ceasefire calls 188 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: simultaneously with there's a stop the genocide in Gaza. There 189 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 3: is no genocide in Gaza. That is a lie, and 190 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: the Israelis are not trying to conduct nor will they conduct, 191 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: the genocide in Gaza. But these are the two ways 192 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: that they try to take the victimizers Hamas and make 193 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: them the victims. 194 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is also I think where social media 195 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: can become dangerous, and and I mean this, whatever you believe, 196 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: there is a viral video out there that you can 197 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: post to justify your side's position. So whatever videos are 198 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: out there, and by the way, nowadays the technology has 199 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: gotten so advanced you don't even know if the videos 200 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: are real. But there are going to be young, innocent 201 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: people in Palestine that die as a result of the 202 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: Hamas terror attack, which has created a necessity for a 203 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: response from Israel. So you can be simultaneously of the 204 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: opinion that you never want a civilian to die, which 205 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: I think all good and reasonable people are, and also 206 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: simultaneously understand it that war is hell and that fighting 207 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: is going to mean that there are deaths, sometimes of innocence, 208 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: and it's always important to remember that there are just wars. 209 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: And if Hamas and Palestine did not want to be 210 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: in a war, then they shouldn't have started a friggin war. 211 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: And I think the analogy is good for Emperor he Orhido. 212 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: I think it's really very persuasive for people out there 213 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: after nine to eleven. Can you imagine can you imagine 214 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: buck if within that, while we're still watching and standing 215 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: in the rubble of the World Trade centers, there had 216 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: been legitimate arguments being made by Congress people that it 217 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: was necessary that there be a ceasefire because we didn't 218 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: want to hurt innocent people in our pursuit of al Qaeda. 219 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: Bad faith demands for peace can actually be used as 220 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: a weapon, you know, depending on when you are making 221 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: those demands. Right, if all of a sudden, if Japan, 222 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I think back to, I think back to 223 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: I think it's dead of honor. The Tom Clancy novel, 224 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: which is the Tom Clancy novel where he flies This 225 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: is pre nine to eleven. A Japanese pilot, to get 226 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: revenge on the US, flies a plane into a joint 227 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: session of Congress and you know, hits the Capitol building 228 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: pre nine to eleven. Anyway, a little a little bit 229 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: of a shock when you go back in history and 230 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: think about this, the clit part of that is the 231 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: Japanese effectively launch you know, the plot the the you know, 232 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: the novel's plot is the Japanese seize back a bunch of. 233 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Territories in the Pacific. 234 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: They do so very rapidly with pretty minimal US loss 235 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: of life, and they say, guys, let's let's just call 236 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: it quits right here. They also secretly develop nuclear missiles, right, 237 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: so the guys, we're done, let's let's let's leave it here. 238 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: And you say, well, hold on a second, we're done 239 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: now after the you know, after the violations have occurred, right, 240 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's completely contrary to a sense of 241 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 3: justice and also contrary to a sense of security because 242 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: there's an ongoing threat from Humas. It's not like hamas 243 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: As retreat. You know, people are talking about, oh, the 244 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 3: lessons we've learned in Afghanistan and Iraq. Yeah, but geographically 245 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: this would be like, you know, this would be like 246 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: New Jersey launching a terror attack against New York. They're 247 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: right next to each other, they share a border. You 248 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: can't just say, okay, we're gonna let this one go. 249 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: You're far away. Maybe we'll figure out peace in the future. 250 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: They're an ongoing threat play. 251 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: That's the part of this that people. 252 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: I mean, they're still firing off rockets. 253 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit like if a cartel came 254 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: across our southern border, killed fourteen hundred people, and then 255 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: went back across the southern border in Mexico tried to say, hey, 256 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: you shouldn't respond to the cartel. 257 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: Mexico demands ceasefire after fourteen hundred Americans killed by cartel. 258 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: That's exactly what the similar you know, or I should 259 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: say exactly, but that's a very close situation to what 260 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: we're seeing here. That's why the ceasefire demands to stop 261 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: the genocide demands. I mean, they're using this term genocide 262 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: just because it's so emotionally loaded. To use the term 263 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: genocide wrongly to stop the Jewish people from defending themselves 264 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: is a particularly disgraceful thing to do. 265 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: Particularly because Hamas actually would do a genocide if they could, 266 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: and the fourteen hundred people they killed are emblematic of 267 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: what their genocide would look like. 268 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: This is the inversion of reality and morality at the 269 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: same time. Look number shocking. 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And I don't know, Buck, 295 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: if you're an expert on this guy or not, I 296 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: don't know that I would recognize him candidly if you 297 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: gave me a lineup of congress people. Tom Emmer from 298 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: Minnesota is the latest Republican nominee for Speaker of the House. 299 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: They have been voting marathon session. What they started with 300 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: nine and they now have The Republican Party has settled 301 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: on Tom Emmer. Buck, if I put five middle aged 302 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: congressman in a lineup right now and told you pick 303 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: Tom Emmer, could you do it? I cannot tell a 304 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: lie man I would. 305 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: I would not. I would not be able to do it. 306 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: And I sit here and I will just say our 307 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: skepticism of the whole oust McCarthy, it's going to be 308 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: so much better. Is looking very prescient right now, and 309 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: the angry emails we got from people saying, oh, look 310 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: we have to mix up the system and change it all. 311 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: It's like, well, okay, but you got to have a plan, right, Yes, 312 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 3: you can't just throw a wrench in the gears and 313 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: say that'll fix it. 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Go to MyPillow dot com, click on 334 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: the radio listener special square, put in that promo code 335 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck and get hooked up today Sleeve Travis 336 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: and Buck set on the front lines of truth. Welcome 337 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: back to Clay and Buck. 338 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: We're talking about the realities right now of the Israel 339 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: Hamas War, a war that has not reached its it's 340 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 3: full it's full extent yet and hopefully we'll be limited 341 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: to Gaza and some exchanges of fire in the north 342 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: with Hesboala that have already happened. There are concerns this 343 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: could become a broader conflagration with Iran. I think that 344 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: is unlikely, but that does not mean it is impossible. 345 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: I think it is h That's part of what a 346 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: lot of the caution you see right now relates to. 347 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: But bring it back home here again for a second, 348 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: because there hasn't been a lot of change. Air strikes, 349 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: ongoing humanitarian corridor opened in the south of Gaza. Ground 350 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 3: invasion hasn't started yet. We're watching for this, but you know, 351 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: I look, I grew up in New York City. I 352 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: lived in New York for probably all over thirty years 353 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 3: of my life, right in Manhattan. And you have a 354 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: large Jewish population in New York City. I remember going 355 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: to bar mitzvahs and bat mitzvahs growing up all the time. 356 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: And you know, New York City has over a million. 357 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: I believe over a million residents of New York City 358 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: are Jewish. 359 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: And that's I think, just interesting backdrop for you would 360 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: think that in a city like that there would be 361 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: a sense of solidarity with our Jewish brothers and sisters 362 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: who are who have been under assault after this terrorist attack, 363 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: the rise in anti Semitism around the world, the flagrant, 364 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 3: blatant calls for violence, effectively calls for pograms against Jews 365 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: right now that are going on in places like London. 366 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: But in New York City, of all places. 367 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: This stuff is still these calls, these protests, they're happening 368 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 3: in New York. This is audio we have for you 369 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: here of a protest. They're calling for intifada in New York, 370 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: which means uprising against Israel. Play nine. There's only one solution, intifada. Intifada. 371 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: They're chanting in the streets, play supporting Hamas in this moment, 372 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 3: supporting because it's impossible to say that this is, you know, 373 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 3: to talk about Gaza and not to understand that Hamas 374 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: is the governing authority there. It's not even like I 375 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: think this gets lost a lot in the discussions about this. 376 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: It's not as though there is a terrorist entity operating 377 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: on this show soil of Gaza, and the Gazen elected 378 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: government is saying, guys, help us out. 379 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: You know, we've dealt with. 380 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: That before in different countries, right, there's plenty of Egypt 381 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: has had terrorists in the Sinai, but Gaza is run 382 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: by a terrorist entity. Yeah, you know this, This is 383 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: what I think people, So when you talk about the 384 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Palestinian cause in Gaza, the politics of Gaza are terrorist 385 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: politics right now, and that New York. 386 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: City residents have to hear this stuff chanted in the streets. 387 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: It's chilling. 388 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 389 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: And look, this is why I think there are many 390 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: Jewish people And we talked to Carol Markowitz about this 391 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: yesterday and Bari Weiss has been writing about this all 392 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: over the country who are waking up and realizing how 393 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: toxic and broken left wing identity politics, which has become 394 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: the foundation of the Democrat Party, actually is because Jews 395 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: always thought, especially Jewish people on the left, wait, we're 396 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: all allies here. We'll fight for LGBT rights, will fight 397 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: for minority representation, will argue in favor of trans people 398 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: being able to have basic human rights, and we expect 399 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: that at a minimum, when we are victims of terror attacks, 400 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: that you will be on our side. And this is 401 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: what the toxicity of this world creates. If this had 402 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: been a group of far right wing anti semi two 403 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: d attacked, these people would have lined up in favor 404 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: of Jews. Right, it's not who the victim is, it's 405 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: who the attacker is. And what they can't reconcile in 406 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: their brains is they can't This is important for all 407 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: of you out there to understand and think, like, why 408 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 2: is this happening. They can't understand how a minority group 409 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: could be involved in an evil act because in their 410 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: world they are the oppressed. And this is the same 411 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: kind of argument buck, you'll hear. And they've been making 412 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: these arguments for I've heard this for generations. Now, Oh, 413 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: black people can't be racist, you know, the left will 414 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: argue that it's impossible for a black person to be 415 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 2: racist because their idea is that black people have so 416 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: little power in America. And I'm not endorsing this, I'm 417 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: saying what their argument is that they lack the ability 418 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: to be racist. So this is why they would forgive, 419 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: for instance, and not cover and not give any credence 420 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: to a black person attacking a white person because in 421 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: their world, the white person can't be a victim. 422 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: They often don't prosecute hate crimes against correct against white people. 423 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: They correct like not really a thing. They don't believe 424 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: that it can happen. And this is why I've said 425 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: the thing that blows all this up is if you 426 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: just say something simple like hey, white people, black people, 427 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: Asian people and Hispanic people, all races can be racist, 428 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: indeed have racism in them. And by the way, buck 429 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: here middle all all lives matter and all people are equal. 430 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the Middle East is one of the most 431 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: racist places in the world. Right like this idea that 432 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: they are somehow beacons of opportunity. And this is where 433 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: the challenge. 434 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: Always telling you know, when when you speak to people 435 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: that have spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan, I don't 436 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: know how to say this other than just to say 437 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: it the very commonplace view in those countries of people 438 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: with darker skin. Oh yeah, it would be shocking to 439 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 3: Western sensibilities. Meaning there's a lot of racism in the 440 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: Middle East, I mean real racism in the Middle East. 441 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 3: And it's also interesting because the way they approach these 442 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: power dynamics, this notion that, first of all, the call 443 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: Israel a colonial state. 444 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: I mean, there have been Jews in Israel. You know, 445 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: it's interesting, right, we're still apologize when do you actually 446 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: decide that someone is as they call it, Like, if 447 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: you've been there thousands and thousands of years, where do 448 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: you wine that where's the line of demarcation? 449 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: I mean we're still you know, there were you know, 450 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: comanches taking land from apaches and you know, a couple 451 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: hundred years ago, and we're still being told that like this, 452 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: this is a grave crime, that the land has been 453 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: taken wherever there have been Jews in the land of Israel, 454 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: in Judea and Samaria and for thousands of years, and 455 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: now because of twentieth century politics and the Balfour Declaration, 456 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: et cetera, we're led to believe that this is somehow 457 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: a colonial project of people that have just arrived. The 458 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: history is wrong. But even beyond that, the notion that 459 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 3: Muslims are inherently a fearful minority is wildly historically ignorant. 460 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: Never mind the fact that there are two billion Muslims 461 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: in the world, that's the largest single practice religion. But 462 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: in the region, this idea that you know they always 463 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: think of as Israel and powertine or Israel and the Palestinians, 464 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: Israel exists surrounded by Muslim majority nations that have tried 465 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: numerous times to destroy it. So if we're really going 466 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: to talk about power and balance and the realities of 467 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: real politique in the Middle East, Israel acts well. First 468 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: of all, has been remarkably successful in defending itself, thankfully, 469 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 3: and also acts with tremendous restraint given the realities of 470 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: the region, and. 471 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: Seeks truly does seek peace. 472 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 3: Now, this is one of the things, as we all, 473 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: we've forgotten this part of the discussion. Hamas is enraged 474 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: by the notion of fellow Muslims, fellow Arabs in the 475 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: region normalizing relations with Israel and saying let's trade and 476 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: let's travel, and let's you know, just get along, and 477 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: which is. 478 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: Why I think if you really unpack why they did 479 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: what they did, I think their big part of this 480 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: with Saudi Arabia was poised to normalize relations with Israel, 481 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: and if that happens, given the power and might of 482 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: the Saut the economy as a result of Saudi a Ramco, 483 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: then the concern was that normalization might spread. I think 484 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: that was because that's off the table now. I think 485 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: that was a big part of the strategic imperative under 486 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: which this attack happened. 487 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: And remember the the the long term, and this is 488 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: common in propaganda to justify short term suffering, depredation, tyranny 489 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: because of the long term utopian goal. I mean, this 490 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: is true of all communist regimes, but it's true of 491 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: the Palestinian politics as well. It's always eventually will have everything, guys. 492 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: Right now, it may be miserable, and we may be 493 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: you know, Hamas may be murdering women and children, and 494 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: we might be suicide bombers, or we might be all 495 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: these terrible things, and we live with these corrupt you know, 496 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: psychopaths in Hamas and other Palestinian entities running the show. 497 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: But eventually all of Israel will be Palestine. They can't 498 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: give that up. 499 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: Clay, Yeah, I mean that's what from the River to 500 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: the Sea means for people out there who don't spend 501 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: a lot of time like they're fighting for this for 502 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 3: thousands of years. 503 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: It's not because they. 504 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: Have made the Palestinians have suffered for decades because of 505 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: the idiotic decisions of their own leadership, all premised on 506 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: they don't actually want the two state they want a 507 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: one state solution, and we all know what that means. 508 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: So let's take some let's open the lines, take some 509 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: of the calls that you have on this one eight hundred. 510 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: And two A two to two eight eight two. 511 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: Start earning high yield returns in a low yield market 512 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: by investing in Phoenix Capitol Group's corporate bonds. 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Stay current with what Clay and Buck 531 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: are saying on TV. Fine the Clay and Buck app 532 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: in your app store and make it. 533 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: Part of your Dave Welcome back in play Travis Buck 534 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 535 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: I promise we'll bring you some humor in a little bit. 536 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: But at the top of the next hour. We've talked 537 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: about this some on the show, but I think many 538 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: in the media have not recognized it. I know we 539 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: still are what two months out from two months at 540 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: some change out from votes officially getting underway the caucus 541 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: in Iowa January fifteenth, so about two months out, roughly 542 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: two and a half months. Donald Trump buck right now 543 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: then he has ever been in his entire political career 544 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: in terms of his odds of being elected president, and 545 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: at this phase in particular, right any anyway to Yeah, 546 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: but if you if you go to October of twenty fifteen, 547 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: if you go to October of twenty nineteen, his numbers 548 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: are better. Right now, Look, we're gonna have Ryan Gradusky 549 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: on in a few moments talking about his substack and 550 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: how he has crunched these numbers. But I do think Clay, 551 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: there has to be and you're I think you are 552 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 2: starting to see this. 553 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: Democrats are a little flummixed here. They must think, now, 554 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: maybe the whole play is just independents are gonna hate 555 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: all the all the you know, criminal job this stuff, 556 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: and that they're gonna run. That's what I've been thinking 557 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: their play is gonna be the whole time. I think 558 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: they're getting nervous about that, though. I think they may 559 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: have overplayed their hands. Biden spent and this has not 560 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: gotten a lot of attention. Biden spent twenty five million dollars. 561 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: Buck in all of the toss up states over the 562 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: past couple of months, and his numbers haven't moved, And 563 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: I think that's starting to get them a little urk. 564 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: Now they're gonna spend a billion dollars. I'm both sides 565 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: probably gonna end up spending a billion dollars. But I 566 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: think one of the challenges you're gonna run into is 567 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: how many persuadable people are there? People who are out 568 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: there and they're like, I really don't know what I 569 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: think about Biden. I really don't know what I think 570 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: about Trump. My sense is there's basically an audience of zero. Now, 571 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: maybe some people can be moved with advertising because they're 572 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: sitting around watching Wheel of Fortune and a Joe Biden 573 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: commercial comes on or a Donald Trump commercial comes on, 574 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: and they say, you know what, Maybe I've been wrong. 575 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I said, I just I don't think people are 576 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: gonna change the minds, and that there's also nervousness out there. Buck. 577 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: I saw this, and we'll mention this with Gerdsky too. 578 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: There's a Quinnipiac pole that came out Biden's only up 579 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: seven on Trump in New York State. That's pretty crazy. 580 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: So we're gonna take a couple of your calls here. 581 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: But it's not only that some of these toss up 582 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: states are not looking good for Biden. It's that states 583 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: that you think, hey, that's a died in the wool 584 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: Democrat state. I'm not even gonna pay attention to what 585 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: the totals look like there with some of the third 586 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 2: parties running. According to this Quinnipiac pole, Biden's only up 587 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: seven and he's only up nine head to head in 588 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: this Quinnipiac Pole in New York. What's going on there? Now? 589 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people upstate New York who listened 590 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: to us, Hello Albany, Hello Buffalo, my kids Buck. I 591 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: talked about this during the summer when we landed and 592 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: we were in Cooperstown, New York. They couldn't believe how 593 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: many Trump flags they saw all throughout upstate New York. 594 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: You get farm from New York City north or west, 595 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: and you start to feel like you're in the Midwest. 596 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: It's very different, very rural. 597 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: I felt like I was in Alabama, honestly, Like in 598 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: the summer, might be a little the accents are a 599 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: little different. No, no, but I mean just in terms 600 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: of the amount of Like when I drive back roads 601 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: in Alabama, it was not a lot different than back 602 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: roads in U in New York. By the way, I'm more. 603 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: Likely a lot of the time, I think clayed to 604 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: bump into somebody who listens to our show in like 605 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: a general store in you know, northern Dutchess County than 606 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: I am in uh, you know, walking around midtown Manhattan sometimes. 607 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's amazing how often you find folks who 608 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: are DC. 609 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: Front door guy comes up and he's like, man, I 610 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: love you guys, And I was like, you're whispering. He's like, yeah, 611 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: I got a whisper. 612 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 3: He's a smart man. 613 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: That's called that's called the bopset Clay Operational Security. He's 614 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: in DC. 615 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: There are communists lurking everywhere. A couple of blocks from 616 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: the White House, Robin, Ohio. What you got for us? 617 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I'm I'm from Louisville, but I'm driving from 618 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 4: Young found back On. Okay, So what I was gonna 619 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: say is that you guys haven't really succinctly described I 620 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: think our feelings as the little people in Normalsville. I 621 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: think what the Republicans need is a really strong fighter 622 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 4: and not necessarily somebody who's going to reach across the aisle. 623 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 4: Like Nancy Pelosi never reached across the aisle, and she 624 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 4: was a fantastic speaker for her party. 625 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: Yep. 626 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 4: So every time I hear somebody say, oh, I just 627 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 4: want to, you know, reach across the aisle and make 628 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 4: deals and like Kevin McCarthy was doing, forget that. 629 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: Well, look we don't. Thanks thanks for the call. I 630 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: get it, I get the anger. But what I'm saying 631 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: is anger is not a strategy. And Kevin McCarthy is 632 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: obligated to have to make deals on some level. Right 633 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: when you only control the House, you don't get to 634 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 2: dictate to the White House and the Senate what they do. 635 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: The problem is, what I am thinking is going to 636 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: happen now is Republicans are going to have taken a 637 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 2: guy Kevin McCarthy, but you may not have agreed with 638 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 2: on everything, but was a much stronger leader than whomever 639 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna get. And that is not ideal because you're 640 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: in a tough negotiating spot. Is that where you kind 641 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: of are as well buck as whether it's Tom Emmer 642 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: or whoever it is, Republicans have played themselves into a 643 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 2: position where they're going to have less control and less 644 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: ability to fight than they had beforehand. Yep, I did it. 645 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 3: I didn't see it from day one. What the point was. 646 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: People are angry at me, and I kept saying, don't 647 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: just throw a wrench into the gears. 648 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: You got to have a plan.