1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: We have these massive fears of how difficult things are 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: going to be, and they are difficult, but when you 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: think of worst case scenario, it usually ends up much better. 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily body here coming to you with the 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: final installment of this special Running Through series. If you've 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: been listening this week, then you know the Drill Global 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: Running Day was on Wednesday. So I felt as though 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: it was only fitting that we wrap up season nine 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: and celebrate all week by bringing. 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: Five back to back episodes to the feed. 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: I on the show am all about bringing hurdler's content 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: that encompasses all that is wellness. But as you know, 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: running holds a very special place in my heart. It's 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: helped me get through some of my biggest hurdle moments 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: and connect on a deeper level with so many So 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: throughout the week, I have brought you stories of inspiring 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: women who have also turned to running during some of 18 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: life's biggest, darkest hurdles, getting vulnerable about everything from grief 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: and loss to depression and postpartum depression, talking about how 20 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: running and sport has helped them persevere, rediscover their self worth, 21 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: and put on a brave face to finish things off. 22 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: For this week of content, I am chatting with Diarre Drakeine. 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: She became a low key internet sensation after her life 24 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: story was told on Humans of. 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: New York at thirteen years old. 26 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Her father passed away three years after being diagnosed with 27 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: skin cancer, and years later, with very little running experience, 28 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: she signed up for two half marathons. Then came her 29 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: first full marathon in honor of her father, which she 30 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: finished in under four hours. 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: And the rest is history. 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: So she's talking to us about that entire journey today, 33 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: about picking up running and the love of this sport 34 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: in honor of her dad and how it has changed her. 35 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: Plus we also talk about her big exciting goal. 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: Her big to do coming up of doing the World 37 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: Marathon Challenge, which is seven marathons on seven continents in 38 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: seven days. 39 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: It is absolutely crazy. 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm so so excited to follow along with her on 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: that journey. I do want to note that after today's episode, 42 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: Hurdle is going on a season break, but I figured 43 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: leaving you. 44 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: With five back to back episodes. 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: Was a good enough way to hold you over until 46 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: I pop back into the feed with season ten. Now, 47 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: of course, before we get to today's episode of Got 48 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: to give some love to my friends at Tracksmith for 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: sponsoring this week of content. Tracksmith is a brand for 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: runners inspired by a deep love for the sport. 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Oh 82 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: my goodness, you are a real life superhero. 83 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: Don't know if i'd call myself that, but I like 84 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: to do my part when I can. 85 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: Well, you're doing more than just your part. 86 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: You are on the show this week as a part 87 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: of our Hurdling Through Running Through series, talking with just 88 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: beautiful people who have used running as a tool to 89 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: get through some serious life hurdles. So you found is 90 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: fame the right word? Fame is a strong word. You 91 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: had some eyeballs on you after appearing on the Humans 92 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: of New York Instagram. Talk to us a little bit 93 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: about how that came to be. 94 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: So I was very fortunate that my friends actually nominated 95 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: me for Humans of New York. Brandon Stanton last year 96 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: doubt to people to submit New Yorkers who are unusual 97 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and different and who should be highlighted as a Human 98 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: of New York on his page, and a group of 99 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: nine of my friends got together. They wrote this beautiful 100 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: email submission unbeknownst to me, and told them about my 101 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: running background, working during the pandemic, and going through a 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: more difficult time recently. Apparently a resonated with Brandon because 103 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: he reached out to them and said, I would love 104 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: to interview your friend. Would you mind giving me her 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: phone number? And one day I got a text message 106 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: from him. Definitely thought it was a joke, but after 107 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: some reassurance, he convinced me that I was indeed Brandon 108 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: from Humans of New York and that he would like 109 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: to sit down and talk to me just about my 110 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: life and see where the interview went. And it wasn't 111 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be about running, but that's where I. 112 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: Went to, but that's where it went to. So at 113 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: the time of sitting down with him, you were at 114 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 3: thirty three time marathonor. 115 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I still can't believe it. I'm now 116 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: up to thirty eight. 117 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, look at you go. That is truly phenomenal. 118 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Now you yourself talk to us about when you got 119 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: in to running. 120 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: So I always wanted to be a runner, which sounds 121 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: like a strange thing to say, but I think a 122 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: lot of people can relate to that feeling. It's just 123 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: so so hard to get started, and I never underestimate 124 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: that difficult beginning. My dad was a massive marathoner, and 125 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: throughout her childhood he was for a New York City 126 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: marathon every year, so I dined for half marathons, ten 127 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: k's and then my dad originally developed cancer when I 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: was ten, started in his forehead, and despite multiple rounds 129 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: of radiation and chemo, it continued to come back, and 130 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: by time I was thirteen, he was considered terminal. But 131 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: despite all of that, he found so fortitude and running. 132 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: I'll say it gave him a lot of comfort, to 133 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: the point that he refused to give it up. The 134 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: day before his last surgical resection, where they took a 135 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: tumor size of a golf ball out of his jaw, 136 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: he ran the New York City Marathon, and not only 137 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: did he run the New York City Marathon, but he 138 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: ran it as an aid for someone who was visually impaired, 139 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: who became his really good friend through Achilles International. So 140 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: that was a type of mentor I had in my 141 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: life until he fortunately passed away when I was a teenager, 142 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: and after that I always wanted to run, just as 143 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: a way to contribute to his memory, to follow in 144 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: his footsteps. But as I mentioned, it was just so hard, 145 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: like I would start walking and then I would try 146 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: to run, but eventually, after maybe half a mile, start 147 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: walking again, and eventually, I don't know what it was. 148 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: I just got myself to the point where I was like, 149 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: mind over matter. I know I'm physically fit, there's no 150 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: physical reason why I can't run, and I just pushed 151 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: myself and I refuse to quit. So once I got 152 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: to that point and got to the half marathon training point, 153 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: I felt like it was probably a lot easier. But 154 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: after I ran my first marathon, it was surprisingly not 155 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: as difficult as I thought it was going to be. 156 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: I think because I put the work in and I 157 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: got the bug and I haven't looked back since. I've 158 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: probably on average run like four marathons a year. It's 159 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: my favorite way to travel, it's my favorite way to decompress, 160 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: it's my favorite mode of therapy. And it's just a 161 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: moment in time that I take just for myself and 162 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: myself alone. 163 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit more about your 164 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: dad and the volunteering that he was doing while he 165 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: himself was struggling so much. Do you remember him ever 166 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: complaining about his circumstance or was this truly just such 167 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: a joy for him that complaining wasn't a part of 168 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: the picture. 169 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: So he definitely was not a complainer, and he enjoyed 170 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: what was left of his life so much that we, 171 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: as his children, we didn't think he was going to 172 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: die because he never approached his illness as the end 173 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: of his life. He looked at it as just another 174 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: obstacle that he was going to overcome to the best 175 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: of his ability or work around, and he took advantage 176 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: of every single moment. So with that outlook, when eventually 177 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: he did pass from cancer, we were so surprised, Like 178 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: we thought our dad was going to live forever. He 179 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: was our superhero. He was a teacher in the inner city, 180 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: in the Bronx. He loved those children. We would all 181 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: go on field trips together. Who'd bring us with us. 182 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: We'd skip school and we'd go down watch Broadway Show 183 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: with them. He would take them to races on the 184 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: weekend and would all run the kiddie races together. And 185 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: then on the evenings he would volunteer with his friend 186 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: at Achilles International and they would run and train for 187 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: New York City Marathon. I'm very blessed to have had 188 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: him for a moment in time. I obviously still wish 189 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: he was with me, but he definitely set the foundation 190 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: of who was going to become as an adult and 191 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: as a runner. 192 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: Do you remember the run where maybe you realized that 193 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: you were capable of doing it for longer than you 194 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: ever envisioned. 195 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Trying to think, I guess yes, I do. Remember. I 196 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: was during the summer between sophomore and junior year and 197 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: I started running around the reservoir and normally I would walk. 198 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: It was very fit at the time. I could walk 199 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: up to twelve miles a day. I just couldn't transition 200 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: it to running and today work today. One day I 201 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: decided today's the day. There's no excuses. It's early in 202 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: the morning, it's not that hot, You're going to go 203 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: and do as many laps around this reservoir as you 204 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: can without stopping. And let's say that's not the best 205 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: way to do it, but it worked in that instance. 206 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: And next thing I know, I did eight loops of 207 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: a two mile reservoir and I did sixteen miles. So 208 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: after that, I was like, Okay, I'm signing up for 209 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: a half marathon and I signed up. 210 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: Whoaa loo. 211 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: So you went from I can't run to I'm going 212 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: to run sixteen miles. 213 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty much how I look at most facets 214 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: of life. It's all or nothing with me. But like 215 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I said, I had been working out in the gym, 216 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: trying to get myself physically capable of running, and that's 217 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: when I realized for me, it was more mental and 218 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: I could overcome that barrier by pushing myself and just 219 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: refusing to quit, which is not a great mindset. Like 220 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: that is that led to me having a lot of 221 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: difficult times more recently when I realized I've been pushing 222 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: myself too hard and I'm physically exhausted and mentally exhausted. 223 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: But at that time it was enough to like push 224 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: me to start running and the next Let's be real, 225 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: the next week, I couldn't run. I was in so 226 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: much pain and so miserable, but I knew I could 227 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: do it because I did it once. That meant I 228 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: could do it again. And that was how my running 229 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: hobby started. 230 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: People are listening to this and they're like, that sounds 231 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: like my own version of personal Hell. 232 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. I did not enjoy it at all, 233 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: but I was just like, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, 234 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: And like a lot of us can relate to when 235 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: we finish that workout, when we finish that race, we 236 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: never look back when regret it. It definitely taught us 237 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: something like maybe you should not run that far, or 238 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: maybe you should give yourself some breaks or more water, 239 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: but you never truly regret it because you did something 240 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: for yourself in that moment. 241 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: I love that. 242 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: So do you think about him regularly when you're lacing 243 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: up and getting out there. 244 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: I will always put a song or two in my playlist, 245 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: my marathon playlist, so I make sure I think of 246 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: him during it. Are You with Me is like one 247 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: of those songs. And then every time I comes on, 248 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: I look to my left or my right wherever, no 249 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: one's standing and I'm like, I know you're there. And 250 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: then there's other times when I'm really struggling, like the 251 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Boston Marathon in April Mile twenty heartbreak Kell. It was 252 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: just you always forget how hard heartbreak kell is, and 253 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: that is why it's called heartbreak Kell. I'm sure, but 254 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: going up that I just started speaking to him and 255 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, like, get me to the finish, get 256 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: me to the finish. And it sounds bizarre, but I 257 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: really feel his presence during those times of need. And 258 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: then more recently, I'm graduating this week with my MBA, 259 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: which is very exciting. So I love thank you. I 260 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: love going for runs before these big life events just 261 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: as a time of solitude and reflection, and I kind 262 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: of speak to him during those times. I wish you 263 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: were here. It's another event that you can't be here. 264 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: But truthfully, I know it's thanks to you that I'm here. 265 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: I did not get this far on my own, and 266 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent certain about that. 267 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: Do you think that you would have been as steadfast 268 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: as you became about getting into running if he hadn't 269 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: been such an avid runner himself. 270 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't think. So it's Honestly, it's really hard to tell. 271 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: I do sometimes think of this alternate universe that we 272 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: could have lived together, where we run marathons together and 273 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: we could volunteer at Achilles International together. But we know 274 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: how annoying we are with our parents. When our parents 275 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: want us to do something, typically we don't do it, 276 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: just because we have two difficult children. However, when you 277 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: lose a parent, there feels like there's so much more 278 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: in the line that you want to honor their memory 279 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: and you want to keep a piece of them alive. 280 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's what I was doing when I 281 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: started running. 282 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what a beautiful way to do that. 283 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: So you spoke about, you know, that original sixteen mile day, 284 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: when you recovered from that sixteen mile decision, talk to 285 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: us about signing up for your first few races, your 286 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: first half marathon, and then eventually your first marathon, which 287 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's a whole hurdle within itself. 288 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I would spend the majority of my summers 289 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: in Ireland. I'm very fortunate that both my parents are 290 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: from Ireland, so we'd go back and stay with my 291 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: grandmother's during the summer. And Ireland's a beautiful but very 292 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: hilly place to run. So I looked up half marathon. 293 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to transition all this 294 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: flat running I've been doing the Bronx New York to 295 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: the into Ireland. And I found a half marathon and 296 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: a fifteen mile run that were a week apart in 297 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: County Kerry, which is probably the most hilly county in Ireland, 298 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: and I signed up for it. People were like, I 299 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: know you ran sixteen miles, but I don't think you 300 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: can do two races a week apart because there were 301 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: two different Sundays, seven days apart. I was like, no, 302 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: I did it, Like I can do this. I did 303 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: sixteen miles. I can do anything I set my mind 304 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: to and obviously it was painful, but I did it. 305 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: And knowing that, I was like, I'm going to train 306 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: for a full marathon this fall and I was going 307 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: into Sorry I think I misspoke, I said earlier I 308 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: was going into my junior year. I was going into 309 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: my senior year. So I looked up marathons near Boston. 310 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: I went to Northeastern at the time, and I found 311 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: the Manchester, New Hampshire Marathon that fell on my dad's birthday. 312 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: November third of twenty ten, I was like, this is 313 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: a sign. I'm running the marathon, my first marathon, Dad's birthday. 314 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: Wow, I have chills sitting here. Oh my god. 315 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: And so the lead up to that, the build up 316 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: to a marathon a completely different beast than training for 317 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: a half marathon. Talk to us about the headspace that 318 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: you got in at how running a vaulted you this 319 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: during this time, Did you still love it just as much? 320 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: Were you kind of like cursing the day that you 321 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: made the decision to do this? Like where were you at? 322 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: It really depends on the day, and I think any 323 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: runner could speak to that. Some days you go out 324 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: there and you're like, I love my life, I'm obsessed 325 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: with running. Running is my true love. But there's other 326 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: days where you're like, I cannot believe I have to 327 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: go for a run right now. I do not want 328 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: to do this. And that's really what it was like. 329 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I was going into my senior year. I was training 330 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: for a marathon when all my friends were going to 331 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: fund parties, and I had to be mindful. On Saturday morning, 332 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: I had to get up for a twenty mile run. 333 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: But those are small sacrifices. You make when you're looking 334 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: at the bigger picture, and for me, it was always 335 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: to commemorate my dad, just to do the one marathon. 336 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: It's also funny looking back in those times, because I 337 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: didn't have a smart watch, there's no way I was 338 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: able to track how fast I was running. I would 339 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: go on I think map quest was the map you 340 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: would use back then on my computer and try to 341 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: map how long my runs along the Charles would be, 342 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: to see how close to twenty miles I could get them. 343 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: So a very different era, and also having the one 344 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: pair of sneakers that I probably should not have been 345 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: running in because I'm sure I ran more than like 346 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: three four hundred miles from them. But there were different times. 347 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: And then I got to the point of the marathon, 348 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: showed up that morning so nervous. I remember I was 349 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: wearing like three quarter lens like dungaroos, the other kind 350 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: of flare at the end, with my hot pink nighty 351 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: sneakers and a hot pink top and a white cotton 352 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: T shirt over it, saying like a memory of John 353 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: Keen and starting off and thinking like I don't know 354 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I should not be here. I don't 355 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: deserve to be here. I'm twenty one. All these people 356 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: look so seriously professional, and I'm an idiot to think 357 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: I can actually accomplish this. 358 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: And how did you get out of that mindset and 359 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: into the I am going to effing do this mindset? 360 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: And that's the beautiful thing about running, like literally and figuratively. 361 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: I just put one foot in front of the other. 362 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you have no choice now to go 363 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: but to go forward. You're not gonna quit without even trying. 364 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: And I said to myself, I was like, the half 365 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: marathon finishes here. If at the half marathon point you 366 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: cannot play this, that's okay, Like you tried your best, 367 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: you won't hurt yourself. But let's give this like a 368 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: real shot. So I got to the half point and 369 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: I was like, screw it, I am on a row. 370 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Well I had them doorphins had kicked in, the goose 371 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: had kicked in. I was feeling myself and I was 372 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: feeling Miley Cyrus as I ran with my iPod. But 373 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: of course mile eighteen it started hurting a little bit. 374 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: I just the pain was not as terrible as I 375 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. And I think that 376 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: was just a valuable lesson to learn in life, Like 377 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: we have these massive fears of how difficult things are 378 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: going to be, and they are difficult, but when you 379 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: think of worst case scenario, it usually ends up much better. 380 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: So I pushed through, and the last five miles I 381 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: was like, I only five miles to go, Like, let's 382 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: go as hard as I can. That lasted for about 383 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: a mile and like five miles is still pretty far 384 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: to your dra And across the finish line with this 385 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: older guy that I kept trying to pace off and 386 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: I didn't realize my iPod was playing this loud through 387 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: my headphones, but he said to me as we crossed 388 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: the finish line, he was like, how many times did 389 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: you play party in the USA? I was like, many 390 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: many times. 391 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: What an amazing story. 392 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: And so by the end of it, I mean, that 393 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: feeling was just so beautiful that you decided, man, I 394 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: should just keep doing this and doing this and doing 395 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: this and doing this again. 396 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. It never got to the point that I thought 397 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: it was going to bring this many I was like, Okay, 398 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: that wasn't terrible. I want to do another one and 399 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: I grad. I wanted to graduate and have the typical 400 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: last final year of college experience. And after graduation, I 401 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: moved to Ireland and I was like, Okay, let's use 402 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: this as a way of traveling Ireland and traveling Europe. 403 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: And I did the Dublin Marathon, the Belfast Marathon, the 404 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: Cork Marathon and started improving on my speeds and knew 405 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: when I moved back to New York that I was 406 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: ready for the New York City Marathon and I was 407 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: going to take that city by storm and memory of 408 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: my dad. 409 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: Wow, So talk to us about that emotional experience, because 410 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: I would imagine it was really, really special. 411 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: So the first New York City Marathon got canceled because 412 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: of Hurricane Sandy, rightfully so I remember at the time 413 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: though I was very upset. I think it was canceled 414 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: at me two days prior. But the following year I 415 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: remember urning it and having my mom and my sister, 416 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: my brother cheering me on, and there's something just I 417 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: don't know. It felt almost like divine intervention. Running my 418 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: father's footsteps and feeling him with me, starting off in 419 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Staten Island, crossing the Arizona into Brooklyn, running through Queens 420 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: and then hitting after Manhattan and hitting the Bronx our 421 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: home burrough before descending into the city. Literally knowing that 422 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: my dad ran that exact course over twenty times and 423 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: doing it for the first time in his memory was spectacular, 424 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: So to the point that even now when I were 425 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: in New York City Marathon, I've done it around with 426 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: five times, but it never loses is that special sensation 427 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: of him being with me and literally following in his footsteps. 428 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: What would you say the role is that running place 429 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: in your life? 430 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, I talk so much about running. Running is 431 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: definitely a massive pillar of who I am as a person, 432 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: but it's also the foundation because there's so much more 433 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: to me. Obviously, I'm not professional runners. I have to 434 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: work for a living and I'm a student, and I've 435 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: tried to be a good friend and family member. But 436 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: it gives me that mode of just going out there 437 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: and letting it be a therapeutic release for whatever's bothering me. 438 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: I would argue that it makes me a better person 439 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: because I'm taking that time for myself to do something 440 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: that improves my physical quality of life and my mental 441 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: quality of life. And I've really seen running like pull 442 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: me through tough times. It's also a time for me 443 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: to chastise myself. And I know I've done something wrong 444 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: because I just get to reflect on it and take 445 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: away all those external distractions like my phone, my television, 446 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: my dog, who you may keep hearing in this podcast, 447 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: but just a time to reflect with my thoughts and realize, 448 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: like you weren't correct and what you did. Like when 449 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: you get home, you're going to take your phone and 450 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: you're going to call that person. You're a text that person, 451 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: but you're going to do right. You want to be 452 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: a better version of yourself. And I don't think if 453 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have the opportunity to set aside time for 454 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: just me and my thoughts, I wouldn't get to those conclusions. 455 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: So I'm thankful for running, just for making me it's 456 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: a better person holistically. 457 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: What would you say that your reason for continuing is 458 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: these days? And what races are on your bucket list 459 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: that you have yet to check off? 460 00:25:54,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: Wow? I try to think of the why I runquestion 461 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: or the answer to that question pretty frequently because it's 462 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: such a huge part of my life, and I don't 463 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: know if I really know the answer. From being honest, 464 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: I know why I started. I know, like I mentioned 465 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: to commemorate my dad's memory to follow in his footsteps. 466 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: But now it's part of who I am. It's just 467 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: so essential to my well being, and I truly didn't 468 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: realize that until last spring. I had my mental health 469 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: challenge in a way that I never thought was possible 470 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: and experienced depression, probably for the first time, and running 471 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: was my only constant prior to that. Like I mentioned, 472 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: running was like a mode of therapy, a mode of 473 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: self reflection, but I never utilized it as a way 474 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: to grieve and to process like very tough feelings, or 475 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: to get through a time where you feel like your 476 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: whole life is thrown upside down. So after that, I 477 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of realized that running is a massive love my life. 478 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: But races are different. I think I love marathons because 479 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I find the distance conquerable and I love the validation 480 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: it gives me, which may not be the best, but 481 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: I love the fact that I can train, put the 482 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: work in, put the distance and the speed in tow 483 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: the start on race day and give it my all, 484 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: knowing that I put the foundation in, that I tried 485 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: my best, and usually it works in my favor. Of course, 486 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: we all know we have those days where for whatever reason, 487 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: you're having a bad day. You didn't drink enough, you 488 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: didn't sleep well enough, you train too hard, it doesn't 489 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: work out. But for the most part, for me, running 490 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: has been consistent where if I put the work in, 491 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: it'll give me the results that I want. 492 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: How many marathons had your father run. 493 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: I would say in the twenties. I don't have an 494 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: exact number, but he did New York City for over 495 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: fifteen years and a few Dublin marathons. 496 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: Wow. 497 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: So just so many takeaways, so many beautiful things that 498 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: you have from your running journey. 499 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: For someone who. 500 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 2: Aspires to develop this same relationship with running, to find 501 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: this calm that you talk about, to be able to 502 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: better navigate their emotions and deal with their feelings, what 503 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: advice do you have to beginner runners out there? 504 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: You just want to start running right. You don't want 505 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: to put this weight on, this burden of running being 506 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: this end all be all for helping you through tough times, 507 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: for making you a better person. More than likely it 508 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: will end up doing all that. But the point of 509 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: getting started is getting started right, being able to run, 510 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: getting through the pain, and being able to enjoy running. 511 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: Like you have to hit that point where you can 512 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: go for a run and right, this isn't miserable. I'm 513 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: actually loving this. I'm not focusing on how much it 514 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: hurts my feet or hitting the pavement, actually looking around 515 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: me and enjoying my environment. Before you can start the 516 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: process of like, Okay, now that I'm comfortable at my 517 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: running pace, what are the benefits I'm going to reap 518 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: from running. It's a gradual process, and I can pretty 519 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: much assure anyone that if they keep going and they 520 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: put the work and the time in like, they will 521 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: get there. But I know other people find that in 522 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: cycling and CrossFit classes and bar classes when you're just 523 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: perfecting a technique or doing anything you're passionate about. But 524 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: it's art reading, Like, there's so many different things that 525 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: you can do where you can reap the benefits where 526 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: you see something that you love is positively impacting you. 527 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be running. That's my thing. So 528 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: I would say anyone who wanted to try running, just 529 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: start it. See what happens. Like, if it's for you, 530 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: it's going to work out. But it is a great 531 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: way to see the world and physically improve your mindset 532 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: and body. 533 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: I love it. What are you excited about right now? 534 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to. 535 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: So much? So this week is such a great week 536 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: for me. So I'm actually happy that you asked me 537 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: to do this podcast this week because I felt like 538 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: it was another positive sign. I'm graduating from NYU Ster 539 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: and my MBA. Yesterday was our commencement for the entire 540 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: university at Yankee Stadium where see Taylor Swift and she 541 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: got her honorary doctorate. I'm a massive Tate te fan. 542 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: I just I know some people love her, people love 543 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: to hate her, but I just think she's a phenomenal 544 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 1: persons person, businesswoman and musician. And then tonight there's an 545 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: award ceremony where I'm receiving an award from school, which 546 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: I'll find out what it is. And tomorrow is our 547 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: MBA graduation. 548 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 2: A week you have nothing going on this week, so 549 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: thank you for making the time for me. 550 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: Oh No, I love to plump all these positive things together, 551 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's just a time where you're like, 552 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to look back on this week and reflect 553 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: on what a positive week it was. But I also 554 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: want to say that not every week is perfect and 555 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: I've learned that this week. Like I've had moments where 556 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: I've been very sad my father's not going to be there. 557 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about being this age and not having 558 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: a partner when so many of my friends are bringing 559 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: their significant others. I'm a strange for my sister, so 560 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: she won't be there. So all these areas of your 561 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: life where you feel like you're lacking, even if you're wrong, like, 562 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: they are brought to the surface, and it is good 563 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: to deal with them during the happier times as well 564 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: as the tough times, because they are going to wear 565 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: their ugly heads. But I just run through it. I 566 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: deal with it. I think about it. I think about 567 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: how much I miss my dad and my sister. I 568 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: think about how nice it would be to have a partner, 569 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: but also the wonderful benefits I have in my life. 570 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm not held responsible to anyone. I get to do 571 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: things independently in my way, which better or worse can 572 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: be a positive. And life is not meant to be perfect. 573 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: You're meant to make the most of what you're given 574 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: in this crazy world. And I try to do just that. 575 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: And that takes perspective right, Like it's not as though 576 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: you're not entitled to have feelings about all of those things, 577 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: like you are allowed to wish that your dad was here, 578 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: or feel some kind of way about the fact that 579 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: you don't have a partner at graduation, or that your 580 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: sister is not there, Like this is just a part 581 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: of life. You wouldn't be human if you didn't have 582 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: feelings about these things. But for you to so beautifully 583 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: articulate your perspective and the gratitude that you have despite 584 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: that circumstance, that's really important and such a really really 585 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: great takeaway for anybody that's listening to this. 586 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: And that perspective is usually hindsight right when you're going 587 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: through the emotions. Of course, you try to ride above 588 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: them and take a bird's eye view, But I also 589 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: give myself some slack, like it's okay to cry, be 590 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: sad about this and then let it go because it's 591 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: outside of your control and you really have to focus 592 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: on all the wonderful positives that are going on. And plus, 593 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: like Taylor said something yesterday at graduation that really resonated 594 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: with me, like you can carry so much more of 595 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: the good things in your life than you can with 596 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: the heavy and toxic things. They take their burden, They're 597 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: harder to carry, they are heavy load. Where the positives 598 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: it feels like they're unlimited to what you can carry, 599 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: you can carry like all those wonderful friendships, relationships, aspects 600 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: of your life where it takes one or two negative 601 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: parts and you really can feel like you're drowning. 602 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely right now for you when you look back 603 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 2: on the humans of New York aspect of that moment 604 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: in your life. I'm sure there were a lot of 605 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: individuals that reached out to you and talk to you 606 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: about your story. 607 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit about what that was 608 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: like for you? 609 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say I had so many fears about 610 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: that story coming out. I felt like I was a 611 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: very fortunate person and I didn't have a right to 612 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: be that sad, or that I should have be more 613 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: positive and more grateful for all the positives in my 614 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: life that outweigh the things that are making me incredibly sad, 615 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to be judged for that. So 616 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: there was massive contemplation and fear prior to finally telling Brandon, like, Okay, 617 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm okay with you releasing this, but the love I 618 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: received was just overwhelming. It really I don't think I'll 619 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: be able to compare to anything in my life. I've 620 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: had people reach out from so many different areas of 621 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: my life, and not only that, my dad's life. Like 622 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: students he taught. I had three or four students reach 623 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: out to me and say that your father is the 624 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: only teacher that did not make us feel different because 625 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: of our backgrounds when he taught us in the Bronx. 626 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: And to hear that is so validating and just made 627 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: me so proud to be his daughter. But it definitely 628 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: reaffirmed that it's okay to be yourself. It's okay to 629 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: let people know when you're sad, and it's okay to 630 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: tell people when you're not okay. You will find support 631 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: and the people that aren't willing to support you probably 632 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: aren't worth your time and effort. I'm fortunate that I 633 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't really have that problem. I was so supported. But 634 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: Umans of New York is a very special platform where 635 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: they're for whatever reason, seems to be no negative energy around. 636 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: I think Brandon does such a great job of sharing 637 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: people's stories and just bringing them to positive light. 638 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 3: For sure. 639 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I was just yesterday scrolling back through so 640 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: many of the comments of so many people saying that 641 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: they could see themselves in your story, and what a 642 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: beautiful opportunity for you to connect with so many other 643 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: individuals who have also run through trauma at this point 644 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: in their lives. So as we cap off things here, 645 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: the final couple of questions. One, what sneakers are you 646 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: running the most in these days? I, like most people, 647 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: love my Nike vapor flies. 648 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: They are just phenomenal. I remember when they came out 649 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: before the New York City twenty nineteen marathon and then 650 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: I prd with them at that time. Ever since then, 651 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: I've just kept them with me. 652 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite song on your running playlist? 653 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, Oh that's a tough one. Okay, let's see Gucci, Fendi, Praduct, 654 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: Merk and Cremont and all Changemokers. 655 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: Final question for you right now, you have an opportunity 656 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: to offer yourself a piece of advice Back when you 657 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: started with running, back when you were still working through 658 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 2: the emotions that go hand in hand with losing one 659 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 2: of your best friends. 660 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 3: What is it that you tell. 661 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: Yourself, Tirdra put one foot in from the other. It's 662 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: going to be Okay, you've got this. You don't realize 663 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: the support system you've around you utilize it until then. 664 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: Just keep running, Jess, keep running. Deirdre so so grateful 665 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: that we can make the time for this. Let us know, 666 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: Let the hurdlers know. How do they follow along with you? 667 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: How do they keep up with you? Give us the details? 668 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: Uh, you can find me on Instagram. My handle is 669 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: my first name, middle initial, last name, so it's Deirdra 670 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: m keene and I'm doing a fun adventure this October 671 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: which you guys should follow around follow me on. I'm 672 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: doing the World Marathon Challenge, which is seven marathons on 673 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: the seven continents in seven days. So, my god, I know, 674 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: I know. It's been something that has been on my 675 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: bucket list since twenty eighteen. I always wanted to find 676 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: a time in my life when I was able to 677 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: do it. And last year when I really hit that 678 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: depression and fell in that hole, I was trying to 679 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: find ways to climb out, and two ways that I 680 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: thought would be helpful would be getting a dog, signing 681 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: up for this World Marathon Challenge. They're not the reasons 682 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: why I got out of the hole. I work through it, 683 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: I seek professional help and I gave myself time. But 684 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: they have both been incredible. My dog is now my 685 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: new best friend here in the background. Yes, lady Gray, 686 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: you're my best friend. And the World Marathon Challenge is 687 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: something I'm so excited for. We start in Antarctica. From 688 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: there we go to South Africa. Then we go to 689 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: Australia and Perth, and we do Dubai for Asia, do 690 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: Madrid in Europe, we go to Brazil for South America, 691 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: and we finish in Miami in North America. And that 692 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: is supposed to be October twenty fifth to the thirty first, 693 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: So stay tuned to see how Deirdred does. 694 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, just there's some questions that need to 695 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: happen before I let you go for the World Marathon Challenge. 696 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 2: Can like anyone's and just pay to be a part 697 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: of this, yes, So you. 698 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: Have to prove that more than likely you would be 699 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: able to complete it. And I think Richard Donovan, who 700 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: is the race director, he kind of looks through your 701 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: race history to see have you done a marathon before? 702 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: Is a great start. But when I told him, I 703 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: think I had done thirty plus marathons at that time. 704 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: That I wanted to sign up. He was like, yes, 705 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: that seems reasonable. I think you would be a reasonable 706 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: candidate to complete this. 707 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: Wow. 708 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: And so you just like pay the cost and then 709 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: they coordinate all of like where you stay and getting 710 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 2: you from A to B. 711 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 3: Yes. 712 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: And then so between pain myself and finding corporate sponsorship, 713 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: I've been doing a mix of both to pay for 714 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: the full cost. But they have a chartered plane that 715 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: takes us from every location, so there's kinably be like 716 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: thirty runners. The race started twenty fifteen. Obviously there was 717 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: a pause the past two years with the pandemic, but 718 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: it's a good mix of like pro athletes like Ryan 719 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: Hall did it in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and then 720 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: like the average show like myself, but everything is set 721 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: up from food, medical aid, flying and we just kind 722 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: of have to tie our shoelaces and start running every day. 723 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, how do you feel about the idea 724 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 3: of running in Antarctica? 725 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: I feel better after this last winter. I so I 726 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: knocked with the cold, I've rainods, my fingers become numb, 727 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: and then I lose sensation when I'm cold. So I 728 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: was terrified of the idea of running on an antarcticad 729 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: but I started running through like the worst of the winter, 730 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: and I went to Colorado this winter and it's an 731 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: alpine running. I'm like, if you're dressed appropriately, have heat packs, 732 00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: like it is manageable. If anything, I'm more fearful for 733 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: all the war marathons because everywhere else is coming fairly warm, 734 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: like seventies to nineties. Yeah, being dehydrated for six days 735 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: in a row, like you're losing not only water but electrolytes, 736 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: that's a little more concerning for me. So I'm looking 737 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: for have. 738 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 3: To get you hooked up with some element packs. 739 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: That's okay, wonderful. I'm looking forward to like a lot 740 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: of heat training this summer New York City ninety degree weather. 741 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: So excited to follow along with you. 742 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: We will have to reconnect leading up to it and 743 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: after it, for sure. 744 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 3: Best of luck, my thank. 745 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: You, thank you, I appreciate it. 746 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 3: And congrats again on such a cellar week. 747 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: You can make sure to follow Hurdle over at on 748 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 2: the socials at Hurdle podcast and I am over at 749 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 2: Emily a Body another hurdle conquered. 750 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.