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Speaker 4: Bobby that everybody, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: What do the numbers one ninety three and one fourteen
Speaker 1: met you?
Speaker 4: One ninety three and one fourteen.
Speaker 3: By the way, for everybody listening, yeah, we are recording
Speaker 3: this at about three o'clock eastern, So just do you
Speaker 3: have a little timestamp as to when we're recording this.
Speaker 3: So what we're about to talk about fits is to
Speaker 3: what just happened. But the numbers one ninety three and
Speaker 3: one fourteen, just take a stab at it, take a
Speaker 3: stab at it.
Speaker 4: I'm looking into your eyes. I'm trying to search into
Speaker 4: your soul. I'm thinking, is there something around the room?
Speaker 4: It's not one fourteen in the afternoon, Kevin, do you
Speaker 4: know what it is?
Speaker 1: I was thinking draft pick number first. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm about to No? I don't know either.
Speaker 3: I have no As we're recording this right now, something
Speaker 3: just broke and something big, Yeah, something pretty big. One
Speaker 3: ninety three and one fourteen is Mike Tomlin's record, and
Speaker 3: he's now stepping down as the Steelers head coach.
Speaker 1: Whow So by the time.
Speaker 3: Everybody's hearing this, it's been out for half a day. However,
Speaker 3: it just happened, and so Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: Steelers are separating after nineteen seasons. Tomlin was hired by
Speaker 3: the Steelers and seven was one ninety three and one fourteen,
Speaker 3: tying the legendary Chuck Noles franchise record for victories. Unbelievable,
Speaker 3: both the Ravens and the Steelers same year, both their coaches.
Speaker 4: I never would have guessed that coming into this year.
Speaker 4: I mean, Tomlin, it's been you know, rumors over the
Speaker 4: last few years because of their inability to win a
Speaker 4: playoff game. Harball was a shock to me when that
Speaker 4: happened as well. But wow, end of an error.
Speaker 3: It just resets again all the coaching and in a hierarchy.
Speaker 3: But you're looking at Tomlin and Harball that they're the
Speaker 3: upper tier of the coaches for sure, and they may
Speaker 3: not both they may not want to coach.
Speaker 1: I mean Tomlin may want to take a year off.
Speaker 1: I don't know, this just broke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Tomlin would be outstanding on one of these
Speaker 4: shows as well. Go take a bridge year, do something
Speaker 4: like that. Any show in America would want to have
Speaker 4: that guy on a gap year kids, just like kids
Speaker 4: do now when they're in eighth grade. In that top
Speaker 4: tier Harball Tomlin and that second tier close, but second
Speaker 4: tier I think is who again won Coach of the
Speaker 4: Year twice with the Browns, with the Browns, with the
Speaker 4: brown and with a disastrous quarterback situation.
Speaker 3: So then you have Mike and Daniel, you have all
Speaker 3: you know, all these head coaches that have been fired
Speaker 3: or have left that will easily find another head coaching
Speaker 3: spot because they're all valuable.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Thomas.
Speaker 4: And there's still these question marks about Lafleur whether or
Speaker 4: not they can work out a deal because he's on
Speaker 4: one year. He's got one year left on his deal.
Speaker 4: They said that they would want him back, but what
Speaker 4: does that look like? What does that deal look like
Speaker 4: that dreen Bay is willing to present to him. Is
Speaker 4: it going to be fair market if.
Speaker 3: It's a one year because if they're wanting to extend him, right,
Speaker 3: that means obviously he'll coach next year in the last
Speaker 3: year of his deal. But if they're wanting to go
Speaker 3: one plus one, I don't know if I take that.
Speaker 3: If I'm Lafloor, no.
Speaker 4: Because he knows that there's a lot of coaching vacancies
Speaker 4: out there, and he's not at the bottom tier of
Speaker 4: this list either.
Speaker 1: He'll be up there close to the side. I think
Speaker 1: he's in this defanski, I think he's in that.
Speaker 4: Tier, right, And so he's sitting there going, well, if
Speaker 4: you guys don't want to pay me, some other team
Speaker 4: is going to give me a three or four year
Speaker 4: deal making anywhere from I'm guessing twelve to fifteen a year,
Speaker 4: And so it would be one of those situations where
Speaker 4: they'd come insult him with a low ball offer or
Speaker 4: maybe a one or two year deal like you're saying,
Speaker 4: and he says, no, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I think that's good news for these really bad teams
Speaker 3: that are looking for a coach, because that makes the
Speaker 3: whatever coach they get is going to be even better.
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin the Tennessee Titans, Baby.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like there have been harball to the
Speaker 1: Titans rumblings right, because and look the Titans are not
Speaker 1: a well run organization.
Speaker 4: They aren't.
Speaker 3: I know you played there. You may argue with me.
Speaker 3: They are not a well run organization.
Speaker 4: They have no alignment. I feel like from top to bottom.
Speaker 1: When your owner has to release the statement saying we're
Speaker 1: now going to let our general manage or general manage,
Speaker 1: that's probably a good idea. That was the state.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you did hire him for a reason, right,
Speaker 4: And it's top down.
Speaker 1: So again, you've been in the organization. You can speak
Speaker 1: to it more than I can.
Speaker 3: But I'm not a Titans fan just because I live
Speaker 3: in Nashville and I look at the organization and go, man,
Speaker 3: they do not know what they're doing. That doesn't mean
Speaker 3: they all don't know what they're doing. But if the
Speaker 3: number one doesn't know what doing, the owner and if
Speaker 3: they don't have good vision, everybody else falls in line.
Speaker 4: Right, And at some point you have to trust in
Speaker 4: the GM who you hire. And you go out and
Speaker 4: you say, hey, we're bringing you in here to run
Speaker 4: this organization. That means, okay, we're going to hire a coach,
Speaker 4: We're going to go out and get players. But you
Speaker 4: can't be one of those owners. That's reactionary. Right, if
Speaker 4: things don't go well in the first year or first
Speaker 4: year and a half, we're not not going to fire you.
Speaker 4: If Mike Vrabel comes in and has all this success
Speaker 4: and then for two years we have down years because
Speaker 4: of whatever reasoning behind it. But during that time period,
Speaker 4: you fire your GM. Then then you fire Mike Vrabel.
Speaker 4: Now you're onto the next coach, and now the next
Speaker 4: coach and the next GM. That it's just it's not
Speaker 4: a recipe for success that is anywhere sustainable. Rabel and
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry and Kevin Byard, who's in Chicago right now,
Speaker 4: who led the league in interceptions this year, who Aj
Speaker 4: Brown while he didn't have his best outing last week
Speaker 4: in the playoff game, still superstar, number one wide receiver
Speaker 4: for the team while he was here.
Speaker 1: All these guys are not in the building anymore.
Speaker 3: And my point with the hardball to Tennessee rumors, and
Speaker 3: I think they're just light rumors, but Tennessee's getting a
Speaker 3: new stadium, right. Tennessee has a quarterback, a young quarterback
Speaker 3: that I think if a coach sees a uh, if
Speaker 3: they're optimistic about a quarterback getting them one year into
Speaker 3: their deal, it's excellent.
Speaker 4: You got four more years because you also can build
Speaker 4: that team around him because he's on the You're not
Speaker 4: spending any money on your franchise quarterback. Do you live
Speaker 4: in Nashville? Draft picks?
Speaker 1: So it Nashville is a good job if the owner
Speaker 1: lets the rest of the management team do their jobs.
Speaker 4: Football people need to do the football job. And that's
Speaker 4: my opinion on it. Be doing all the jobs. Guarantee you.
Speaker 3: Set up in the booth like Brady and again with
Speaker 3: new uniforms every week.
Speaker 1: Run it, run it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I think teams like the Titans and the Cardinals
Speaker 3: and these teams that are known as being a bit dysfunctional,
Speaker 3: I think all these good coaches being back in the
Speaker 3: mix helps all of them because it's just gonna lift, right,
Speaker 3: the quality of head coaches. They're going to get a
Speaker 3: better coach because even if they get the bottom of
Speaker 3: the barrel in this cycle of coaches, the bottom of
Speaker 3: the barrel just got better because the top of the
Speaker 3: barrel is higher.
Speaker 4: Right, because you're always you're always looking for that young
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator defensive coordinator to come in take over as
Speaker 4: your head coaching. Right now, you have a pool of
Speaker 4: candidates that have head coaching experience, not just head coaching experience,
Speaker 4: but have won consistently and have our proven winners. And
Speaker 4: anytime you can bring that type of individual into your organization,
Speaker 4: it gives you an immediate lift and not only rallies
Speaker 4: the players around you, but how just the perception and
Speaker 4: how these coaches go about their business allows you to know, hey,
Speaker 4: we have the ability to be very successful, but we
Speaker 4: have to follow this regimen.
Speaker 3: We have the great Ed McCaffrey coming up, which is
Speaker 3: pretty cool, really cool. Obviously McCaffrey was a dog back
Speaker 3: in the day. It was just weird to see a
Speaker 3: wide receiver when I was young.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it made me appreciate the wide receiver, like
Speaker 4: somebody that was white could still go out and do it.
Speaker 4: I mean, but he was a physically imposing guy. You
Speaker 4: think about him. He was six' five two thirty go
Speaker 4: out there and he do it in the run, game
Speaker 4: do it in the past. Game and it was always
Speaker 4: fun to watch him because he played at such a
Speaker 4: high level and he played like you want to see
Speaker 4: somebody play maximum effort all the.
Speaker 1: Time he walks So Cooper john could, run he means.
Speaker 4: Sprint did you see the clip.
Speaker 3: Where His philadelphia has two white guys in their, secondary
Speaker 3: AND i forget who the player, was and he was, like, no,
Speaker 3: No i'm Not cooper And John i'm the other.
Speaker 1: One YEAH i saw. That yeah He's it was, like
Speaker 1: no other one guy goes my. Bad all, Right i'm
Speaker 1: going to start us. Off. Now there are eight quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: left And i'm ranking.
Speaker 4: Them i'm shocked to see who will go on in
Speaker 4: this list power.
Speaker 1: Rankings, yes of the eight quarterbacks. Left according to, ME
Speaker 1: i love ranking. Things we're gonna go number, One Josh.
Speaker 1: Allen that's. Shocking the guy is. Superman yeah that, push
Speaker 1: it did not result in a, touchdown but it was very.
Speaker 4: Close it's like ten.
Speaker 3: Yards oh, Yeah like that to me was the essence
Speaker 3: of what was happening that. Game, yes and the fact
Speaker 3: that they That Brandon cooks has to be the dude
Speaker 3: just tells you they don't have anybody just.
Speaker 4: I, Mean Brandon cooks has got to be in Year
Speaker 4: i'm guessing fourteen something like. That obviously takes care of his,
Speaker 4: body but some of the throws That Josh allen made
Speaker 4: down the stretch when he's got they've got max pressure,
Speaker 4: coming he's got a free runner in his face and
Speaker 4: he throws that poster route To Brandon, COOKS i, mean
Speaker 4: but takes an absolute shot right in his chest as
Speaker 4: he's staring it. Down and it's plays like that that
Speaker 4: you just sit there in awe of a guy like,
Speaker 4: that of that centa because he got beat up early
Speaker 4: in that. Game he saw when he hurt his, knee
Speaker 4: he got it bent back early, on he was wabbling
Speaker 4: around a little.
Speaker 3: Bit the guy just keeps coming back for more and
Speaker 3: more and. More twelve, years twelve. Years it feels like
Speaker 3: a hundred because he's just been.
Speaker 4: Everywhere he's been, everywhere Wasn't he's been in with The,
Speaker 4: Patriots he's been with the Huge, Texans Dallas, Cowboys, cowboys
Speaker 4: and everywhere he goes he becomes some, somehow some.
Speaker 1: Way he has a.
Speaker 4: Role but he's, impactful like he's a guy Like, Oh
Speaker 4: branon Cooksh No.
Speaker 3: COWBOYS i think they thought he's gonna be a number.
Speaker 3: Two he's never really showed up over. There he showed
Speaker 3: up a little bit. There number. Two Matthew stafford. NUMBERS
Speaker 3: i can't debate that at. All, Yeah stafford's one of
Speaker 3: the best quarterbacks in the league. Period even at his,
Speaker 3: age but some of the throws he makes and how
Speaker 3: he's able to manipulate the manipulate the. Defense he was
Speaker 3: doing it WHEN i was In detroit with. Him but
Speaker 3: it's just wild BECAUSE i don't know how you practice
Speaker 3: something like. That it's the no look past you never
Speaker 3: you don't see really anybody else knew.
Speaker 1: It, well guys like, us we just have an.
Speaker 4: Instinct. NO i stare at the wide receiver and be, like,
Speaker 4: hey please don't get there Before i'll go try to move,
Speaker 4: you but they're not gonna. Move my eyes back inside
Speaker 4: to try to make SURE i see where that target.
Speaker 1: Is number, Three Sam, Darnold Sam donald number, three all,
Speaker 1: RIGHT i like.
Speaker 3: It AND i have to Give Sam donald a lot
Speaker 3: of credit because the narrative Around Sam donald was kind
Speaker 3: of wilts and all because of the end of The minnesota.
Speaker 3: Run all because of, that all of, it and they
Speaker 3: won a big game Againt San francisco at the end
Speaker 3: of the. Season but you're talking about as many wins
Speaker 3: as he's had in back to back. YEARS i Think
Speaker 3: brady is the, guy only the only guy to ever
Speaker 3: do that back to back, Fourteen, yeah fourteen, wins four.
Speaker 1: Wins It's donald And, Brady and So i'm Putting Sam
Speaker 1: donald at number three because The seahawks are just legit
Speaker 1: AND i think he's. GOOD i don't think he has
Speaker 1: to be as good as he is at times because
Speaker 1: there are seasons of seasons where he doesn't have to win, games.
Speaker 4: Right and he's got to know what his team is right.
Speaker 4: Now their defense is, dominant they've got a good running,
Speaker 4: game they've got good wide. RECEIVERS i think when he
Speaker 4: started out this, season he was as hot as anybody
Speaker 4: he could be in THAT Ndi key conversation midway through the.
Speaker 4: Year it hasn't been as good in the ladder of
Speaker 4: the of the. Season there's no doubt about. That he
Speaker 4: also leads the league with twenty turnovers this. Year so
Speaker 4: he's had some bad. Picks he's had some bad, picks
Speaker 4: but he comes back from those picks and understanding who
Speaker 4: their team is and going out again against an opponent
Speaker 4: that you're familiar. With this, week they lost In week,
Speaker 4: one they come back in the last week of the.
Speaker 4: Season they only score thirteen, points but that defense absolutely
Speaker 4: shut down the forty nine, ers AND i think it's
Speaker 4: going to be something similar to that game plan going
Speaker 4: in to this. One this, WEEKEND.
Speaker 1: I had number four the quarterback with the best nickname
Speaker 1: of the eight remaining commun name that quarterback best?
Speaker 4: Nickname, YEAH i don't even know. NICKNAMES i know.
Speaker 3: Names, Drake, Drake Drake May, May.
Speaker 1: What's what's what's his? Nickname Drake Drake May? May a
Speaker 1: guy so good his nickname is just his.
Speaker 4: Name, Okay i'm with.
Speaker 1: It you haven't heard Of Drake Drake May. May have
Speaker 1: you heard of? This of, course it's. Everywhere oh, Man,
Speaker 1: well my name is his name because he's that, dude and.
Speaker 4: People think this is. Cool, WELL i just say it's. Cool.
Speaker 1: May how did your?
Speaker 3: Nickname your own, name like your? Own you are so,
Speaker 3: cool you don't need a Cool it is a cool.
Speaker 3: Name it is a cool, Name i'll say. That and
Speaker 3: he's playing at really high. LEVEL i don't care about his.
Speaker 3: NICKNAME i just know that he's a. Stud, yeah he's
Speaker 3: just second year. GUYS i struggle a little bit with.
Speaker 3: THAT i know you, DO i know you. Do there's
Speaker 3: a lot of the. Money he's my leader of my
Speaker 3: second year, guys as he should. Be he might be
Speaker 3: the m V p and he's not THE. MVP i
Speaker 3: don't think any Of but he was second Team All.
Speaker 3: Pro the only REASON i say that BECAUSE i wasn't
Speaker 3: bullish On both of those guys had excellent. Seasons, yes
Speaker 3: but Whenever drake may win second Team All? Pro, kevin
Speaker 3: you see That patriots? Fan, YEAH i think that kind
Speaker 3: of to, me says he's not going to win THE.
Speaker 4: Mvp so first Team All Pro Josh, Allen, No, Stafford Oh? Stafford, Yeah,
Speaker 4: well isn't THERE anfc.
Speaker 1: In AN Ac?
Speaker 4: NO i think that.
Speaker 1: One, yeah it's.
Speaker 4: One god figuring this new stuff out every. Day i've
Speaker 4: been around the league for a. While just One All. Pro,
Speaker 4: Well stafford's, deserving he'll win THE. Mvp, YEAH i think so.
Speaker 3: Too, yeah at number, FOUR i Got drake, mate and
Speaker 3: both of you guys being a Former patriot and A
Speaker 3: patriot fan ugly at the, beginning but man may looked,
Speaker 3: good but he just when you need, something he gives
Speaker 3: it to.
Speaker 4: You the throat Hunter, HENRY i, mean, yeah that's phenomenal
Speaker 4: because he makes plays like that all the. Time and
Speaker 4: they're very reliant on the pass game because they need
Speaker 4: the pass game to get going in order to get
Speaker 4: that run game. Going and he continues to perform at
Speaker 4: a high level on what they need in different, situations
Speaker 4: and he keeps coming back for. More he had the.
Speaker 4: Turnovers he's got to eliminate. That it'll be interesting this
Speaker 4: week though Against. Houston big shout out to that New
Speaker 4: england defense man they. Came how about That milton did
Speaker 4: signed him and big boy can come home back because
Speaker 4: he was out for what six? Weeks six weeks with
Speaker 4: the high ankle. Spring they also Got Christian barmore back
Speaker 4: in the, middle so they got healthier in the middle
Speaker 4: of the defense BECAUSE i don't think that they have
Speaker 4: any true dominant defensive ends who are going to rush
Speaker 4: the passer from the. Edge but what they do do
Speaker 4: is run a ton of. Games they've got tremendous speed
Speaker 4: in a really good. Secondary at number, Five Caleb Drake
Speaker 4: May William caleb making his way up the. List, huh he's,
Speaker 4: look he's strugg it's a.
Speaker 3: Struggle most first halves That bears team all year has
Speaker 3: been a. Struggle most first halves got it looked awful
Speaker 3: down twenty three, bad, Bad.
Speaker 1: But holy, mother is he?
Speaker 3: Dynamic does he make the throw if it's fourth down
Speaker 3: and anything above? Nine in the games on the line
Speaker 3: seven times in. Row he's gonna hit all seven of
Speaker 3: those masses.
Speaker 1: Throat to his.
Speaker 4: Left people don't realize how difficult it is to roll
Speaker 4: left and flip your hips as, alrighty let alone to roll.
Speaker 1: Left pass the Seventeen. Ye, YEAH i.
Speaker 4: Mean his feet are off the ground and that guy
Speaker 4: is fading back and the ball hits him in his
Speaker 4: hands for a huge.
Speaker 1: Conversion if they don't make, that game's, over game's. OVER i,
Speaker 1: mean he's he's.
Speaker 3: Special If i'm A bears, fan even if they lose next,
Speaker 3: Week i'm so fired up for next. Year you saw
Speaker 3: so much, growth not even with Just Ben johnson and
Speaker 3: the team in, general because you did that. Team they
Speaker 3: flipped the coin, completely no. Doubt But Caleb williams from
Speaker 3: where they were at in camp whenever he was making
Speaker 3: low not highlight low light tiktoks because he's missing these
Speaker 3: throws by a.
Speaker 1: Mile put him on blast for play. Practice it's a different.
Speaker 3: Dude, yeah, okay next, Up rock party at number, Six
Speaker 3: rock party at number.
Speaker 1: Six he does what needs to get. Done and sometimes
Speaker 1: you start to, think, well this is guy's just a game,
Speaker 1: manager and then you're, reminded dude is an athlete dude's an.
Speaker 4: Athlete he doesn't have the same personnel that they anticipated
Speaker 4: going into this. Season, Obviously Brandon ayuk hasn't been out
Speaker 4: of the, Fill George kittle's been. Hurt Juwan jennings has
Speaker 4: really stepped up to be their number one wide, receiver
Speaker 4: which was a, surprise i'd say for most of us
Speaker 4: going into this.
Speaker 1: Year and Then christian.
Speaker 4: McCaffrey when you look at that in the way in
Speaker 4: which he manages the game and then still makes high
Speaker 4: end throws. Consistently he doesn't do it with the most powerful, arm.
Speaker 4: Right what he does it with is, anticipation and he
Speaker 4: knows where to throw the, ball when to throw the,
Speaker 4: ball and, he's like you, said he's a great. Athlete
Speaker 4: he makes plays with his legs that. PEOPLE i think
Speaker 4: it's very understated for a lot of.
Speaker 3: Individuals the play that he, made he's running around the,
Speaker 3: left he stepped, in the two linemen kind of came
Speaker 3: together and then.
Speaker 1: He blew through.
Speaker 4: Them.
Speaker 3: Sick it was just pure, athletes, right and it's hard
Speaker 3: to be the athlete when you have McCaffrey there with.
Speaker 1: You is that, dude that guy? Animal what are they
Speaker 1: just gonna to throw A check And Jawan.
Speaker 4: Jennings, yeah why? NOT i SAW i heard something that
Speaker 4: the other day That Us check is a ten time pro, Bowler.
Speaker 1: But aren't there on like three fullbacks in THE? Nfl,
Speaker 1: yes but that works to his.
Speaker 3: Advantage but nonetheless, yeah, NO i, mean as soon As
Speaker 3: kittle was, heard it was just throw it to Use
Speaker 3: check all the plays we would usually thought To.
Speaker 1: Kittle, Right to have somebody so versatile like, that.
Speaker 4: It's it's a tremendous, asset especially a guy that lines
Speaker 4: up a fullback but can play the tight. End really
Speaker 4: the f position is what we like to call. It
Speaker 4: he's not going to hold down the line of, scrimmage
Speaker 4: but he's backside cut off but can still release out
Speaker 4: into a pattern that's adds depth to your team for.
Speaker 1: Sure nicks at, Seven Bo?
Speaker 4: Nicks that guy does he? Have does he have any? Nicknames?
Speaker 1: Bo Drake Maine. Knicks everybody is going to Be Drake
Speaker 1: May knicks and next is.
Speaker 3: Fine he's. Good, yeah he's. Fine broncos are. Good they
Speaker 3: have a great. Defense he's doing what he needs to.
Speaker 4: DO i just PUT.
Speaker 1: Cj strout, last because, MAN i don't even know what's.
Speaker 3: Happening it feels like and obviously That texans defense is so,
Speaker 3: Good Segars stroud getting worse every.
Speaker 4: Year you, know he's just never been able to recapture
Speaker 4: what he did that rookie season that he. Had it
Speaker 4: was a phenomenal rookie. Season they've. Won he's won what
Speaker 4: two out of four playoff games or something like that
Speaker 4: during his. Career so they're in the playoffs every?
Speaker 1: Year AM i wrong, though to say, that BECAUSE i feel.
Speaker 4: There's times Where i'll watch, him, like there's times this
Speaker 4: season Where i'm, Like, wow there's THE. Cj stroud that
Speaker 4: we talk about consistently where we, say if he can
Speaker 4: capture that in a, bottle that lightning in a, bottle
Speaker 4: he could be a top ten quarterback. Easily but then
Speaker 4: there's too much. Inconsistency and that showed up in the
Speaker 4: last playoff game where you're sitting there and some of
Speaker 4: the throws that just blatant. Misses and let's be, Honest
Speaker 4: houston didn't have really any offense going Against pittsburgh all.
Speaker 4: Game it was the defense that went out there dominated scored,
Speaker 4: points scored more points Than pittsburgh and that was the.
Speaker 4: Difference and SO i would SAY i would agree with
Speaker 4: you that right, Now i'd put him at.
Speaker 1: Eight So Nico collins went into concussion.
Speaker 3: Protocol now's sucks they played on A monday night because
Speaker 3: that they don't have as many days now Before.
Speaker 4: Sunday, yeah and that was always the thing about The
Speaker 4: monday night. Game AND i know it's television and contractual
Speaker 4: agreements and all that, stuff BUT i just think it's
Speaker 4: unfair to a team to play on A. Monday you're
Speaker 4: just still going to come back on A, sunday but
Speaker 4: it's a short, week and to get ready for a playoff,
Speaker 4: game to not potentially be at your best because you
Speaker 4: got your one last day, RESTED i don't think it's
Speaker 4: necessarily makes much.
Speaker 5: Sense gonzalez also is a, yeah so, yeah but there's a.
Speaker 5: DIFFERENCE i, agree because without a number one ur, receiver
Speaker 5: it's different than a corner BECAUSE i Think mack could
Speaker 5: probably test, this but you can make up for a
Speaker 5: little bit with a corner. Out but as far as
Speaker 5: a receiver that kills, everything, YEAH.
Speaker 4: I mean you want your dogs out there in any,
Speaker 4: game let alone in the, playoffs especially because he's become
Speaker 4: the go to wide receiver for a struggling quarterback that
Speaker 4: sometimes needs you to needs to be picked up by
Speaker 4: that wide. Receiver you're not going to have, him so
Speaker 4: you have to rely on another. Asset it's, uh that
Speaker 4: would be a big.
Speaker 1: Blow they also got an extra Day New england did.
Speaker 3: True, yeah So i'll. Help, YEAH i never been in the.
Speaker 3: Protocol i've definitely been in the. Protocol you, Have, yeah
Speaker 3: just kind of take it week by. Week as Coach
Speaker 3: belichick would.
Speaker 1: Say what do you do when you're in the? Protocol
Speaker 1: do you just sit in a dark?
Speaker 4: Room, well that was the one THAT i had WHEN
Speaker 4: i was In Kansas city WHERE i got knocked out.
Speaker 1: Cold and then.
Speaker 4: That week was the first week WHERE i had been
Speaker 4: hit in the head WHERE i had like an actual
Speaker 4: concussion that they diagnosed as a concussion Where i'd go
Speaker 4: into a room and just go to sleep and sleep
Speaker 4: for long periods of. Time my wife's, LIKE i am
Speaker 4: seriously worried about, you Because i've Had i've been banged up,
Speaker 4: before but within one two, days the symptoms kind of
Speaker 4: go away and you're actually out there back at. Practice
Speaker 4: this was the first Time lethargic didn't feel that headaches
Speaker 4: throughout the, Week SO i didn't play that. WEEK i
Speaker 4: was able to come back the following, week but it
Speaker 4: was just a Weird it's always weird when you take
Speaker 4: a hit like that and you know that you're, concussed
Speaker 4: but you just think you're automatically going to bounce that
Speaker 4: back like you did, before and to have these lingering
Speaker 4: issues that just makes you feel not, SUPERHUMAN i, guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah especially being an athlete like, you where you have
Speaker 3: been superhuman physically your whole, life like you have played
Speaker 3: the highest at every. Level you're physically bigger than all of,
Speaker 3: us you're, faster and then it's like the first time is,
Speaker 3: like welcome to.
Speaker 1: Reality you are.
Speaker 4: Not you're now you're.
Speaker 3: Not so it's physically gifted you can get through, this
Speaker 3: or or it's you, know it's one thing to have
Speaker 3: your knee g it hurt or something like.
Speaker 4: That but when you get hit in the, head which
Speaker 4: we all take blows playing it in THE, nfl but
Speaker 4: it is the first time that it actually was like
Speaker 4: a wake up call, like oh, wow like this is.
Speaker 1: Real this is a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Serious because you, know they do the they always do
Speaker 4: the cat skins and, this that and the. Other but
Speaker 4: that was the first time THAT i had lingering effects
Speaker 4: WHERE i was, like, huh maybe this game can present
Speaker 4: some some harm to. YOU i go back and, forth
Speaker 4: because you, know if you think of Two cinderella teams
Speaker 4: for this season thus far going into the, playoffs you
Speaker 4: have to go with the forty Nine, ers what they've
Speaker 4: had to, overcome, injuries all the different. Circumstances we've talked
Speaker 4: about it at nauseum of, course Or, chicago of which
Speaker 4: one of these two teams have the potential to move
Speaker 4: on and still keep That cinderella story. Going AND i
Speaker 4: look at the forty Nine ers going To, seattle AND
Speaker 4: i think this is going to be a hard one
Speaker 4: for them to. Overcome, yeah AND i Just seattle's got
Speaker 4: an extra week of. Rest that was a hard fought
Speaker 4: battle Against, philadelphia so you, know for the forty Nine
Speaker 4: ers are already banged. Up THEN i look at it
Speaker 4: AND i, say these two opponents know each other so,
Speaker 4: well that's always going to be a. Dogfight forty Nine
Speaker 4: ers are not going to lay, out roll over and
Speaker 4: give up for. Anybody and when you go back to
Speaker 4: That week eighteen, game they're Missing Trent, williams which has
Speaker 4: a tremendous impact on that offensive.
Speaker 1: Unit they've got to be able to run the ball In.
Speaker 4: Seattle on the other, hand, yes outstanding, defense there's still
Speaker 4: some question marks about the. Offense and WHEN i say question,
Speaker 4: MARKS i mean forty nine ers held them to thirteen,
Speaker 4: points and that thirteen points is not a. Lot that's
Speaker 4: two score, game and SO i think that'll be an interesting.
Speaker 4: Matchup and then when you talk About, CHICAGO i, mean,
Speaker 4: GOSH i don't know if they can keep doing it
Speaker 4: the way that they're doing, it but they keep showing
Speaker 4: up in the second half each and every. Week it's, like,
Speaker 4: hey let's not even play the first. Half just give
Speaker 4: me an opportunity to come back in the second.
Speaker 3: Half both of those are The saturday games. Too, yeah,
Speaker 3: no that's not. Right The niners And seahawks is the
Speaker 3: late game On. Saturday they're both THE nfc. Games the
Speaker 3: other Game, sunday, Right, yep that what it. Is BUT
Speaker 3: i think The rams right At.
Speaker 4: BEARS i know that home field advantage will definitely be
Speaker 4: for The bears because it's going to be a cold weather.
Speaker 4: GAME i saw, Today actually it's going to be high
Speaker 4: of twenty. Four that's a tremendous change from coming FROM
Speaker 4: la because you can't practice, that and you can't assume.
Speaker 4: It you can't simulate that in. Practice but The RAMS
Speaker 4: i still think are probably the most one of the
Speaker 4: most well rounded teams still left in the.
Speaker 1: Playoffs.
Speaker 4: NOW i think that they showed some weaknesses on the
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball against The panthers last. Week
Speaker 4: with that, OFFENSE i, mean they can score it well
Speaker 4: whenever they want.
Speaker 3: TO i think The rams could possibly be the best
Speaker 3: team in THE nfl right. Now what's crazy is they
Speaker 3: had to go To. Carolina they got to fly back.
Speaker 3: Home now they got to go back To chicago and
Speaker 3: play a a momentum That bears team. Is they have
Speaker 3: heavy momentum right. Now right that city is just loving, it.
Speaker 4: Rocking they weren't loving the first half of that.
Speaker 3: GAME i don't think they'd love the first, half but
Speaker 3: they ended up getting it done in the fourth. Quarter
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Speaker 4: SAME i, Mean Josh allen is proven throughout his career
Speaker 4: but even more, recently just that he can overcome any.
Speaker 4: Circumstances and as good as That Denver bronco defense, IS
Speaker 4: i still look at their offense and, say, look they're
Speaker 4: not a, juggernaut especially when you go back To week.
Speaker 4: Eighteen they weren't good in that game at all, Offensively
Speaker 4: so to, me they're not operating in a high.
Speaker 1: Center.
Speaker 4: Now they had a week off to try to correct
Speaker 4: some of those, things but you can't do that all
Speaker 4: in a. Week and The bills are riding some momentum
Speaker 4: here winning In jacksonville's what's the? Line one and a?
Speaker 1: Half? DENVER i mean? Neutral that's about.
Speaker 3: Even, Yeah i'm going when it's close with the best
Speaker 3: player on the, field and That's Josh.
Speaker 1: Allen So i'm with you. There let's Go texans At.
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Speaker 1: Patriots i'll go. First i'm going to go with The.
Speaker 1: Patriots that.
Speaker 3: OFFENSE i have not seen anything recent to make me
Speaker 3: think The texans can score points unless their defense does.
Speaker 3: It And Drake may has been playing so well THAT
Speaker 3: i just he hasn't turned the ball over a, lot.
Speaker 4: And that's going to be the key to the game
Speaker 4: for The New England. Patriots i'll go with The patriots as.
Speaker 4: Well they know that this is going to be a.
Speaker 4: Game And josh, McDaniels i've been in the room with
Speaker 4: him when they're game planning and doing all. This they
Speaker 4: understand that the edges are. Problems Will Anderson. Jr Daniel,
Speaker 4: hunter those guys can get after the. Quarterback WHEN i
Speaker 4: go way back and kind of date myself when we
Speaker 4: used to play The colts back in the day and
Speaker 4: they used to Have freemy And Manta, mathis they were a.
Speaker 4: Problem but what did we. Do we made sure that
Speaker 4: we put presents on the. Edge we're trying to get
Speaker 4: double teams first and foremost is going to be protecting
Speaker 4: and protecting the, ball protecting the quarterback and protecting the,
Speaker 4: ball and, somehow some, way hopefully you start to lean
Speaker 4: on these, guys get that run game going and take
Speaker 4: your shots. Downfield, look there's not a weakness on This
Speaker 4: Houston houston's defense. Period they're good in the, secondary they're
Speaker 4: good at the second, level and there you've got an outstanding. Front,
Speaker 4: however If i'm going to put my money on, Somebody
Speaker 4: i'm putting my money On drake May this offensive unit
Speaker 4: that has performed throughout the, year and as you, Stated
Speaker 4: houston to me hasn't shown me enough offensively to make
Speaker 4: me fearful of anything that they.
Speaker 3: Do and if we're going to talk about a home
Speaker 3: field advantage and, weather we have to talk about this game.
Speaker 3: Too you're taking guys From houston and sending them up
Speaker 3: to Freaking boston where it's going to be one.
Speaker 6: Degree there's nothing more brutal than playing that type of.
Speaker 6: Weather forty Nine ers At. SEAHAWKS i love the forty.
Speaker 4: Nine ers, STORY i love who they are and how they.
Speaker 4: COMPETE i just think that, environment in the way in
Speaker 4: Which seattle is playing is going.
Speaker 1: To be too much for. Him i'm going to go
Speaker 1: With seattle and not really a weather. Game but, man
Speaker 1: you're right About seattle at home it Is. Mayhem, well you.
Speaker 4: Take that defense and then you add the Twelfth, man
Speaker 4: so to, speak.
Speaker 1: As what they call.
Speaker 4: It it is one of the loudest Stadiums i've ever played,
Speaker 4: at almost so deafening that you can't even hear yourself
Speaker 4: talk on the sideline to a buddy that's sitting right
Speaker 4: next to.
Speaker 3: You probably helps a. Bit That San francisco has done
Speaker 3: it once this, year just played there.
Speaker 4: Right that these guys are familiar with. It they've got
Speaker 4: to definitely have a veteran team that have played there.
Speaker 4: Before they are going to understand the, environment what they
Speaker 4: need to, do and how to mechanically get through that
Speaker 4: at the line of, scrimmage especially for their. Offense at
Speaker 4: the same, time it doesn't make it any easier because
Speaker 4: everything's nonverbal at that point when you got to check a,
Speaker 4: play when you have to, signal everything has to be. Demonstrative.
Speaker 4: Demonstrative you have to be able to signal instead of
Speaker 4: verbally verbally give cues to. EVERYBODY i like verbally when talking,
Speaker 4: Verbally drake may nickname.
Speaker 1: It i'm going to go with forty nine, ers BUT
Speaker 1: i just don't think they have the health to.
Speaker 3: Maintain everybody said, that but if they win this game In,
Speaker 3: SEATTLE i, agree they get a chance against. ANYONE i
Speaker 3: don't care what the circumstances. Are i'm going forty nine
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Speaker 3: Back With ed McCaffrey in the Second all, right let's
Speaker 3: go over now and talk with three Times Super bowl
Speaker 3: Champion ed. McCaffrey ed played thirteen SEASONS nfl for The
Speaker 3: giants forty nine, ers obviously The. Broncos he had over
Speaker 3: seven thousand receiving yards fifty five touchdowns in his.
Speaker 1: Career it was named of The broncos fiftieth anniversary. Team
Speaker 1: one of my favorite, Players ed, McCaffrey, ed thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on with.
Speaker 8: Us, well my. Pleasure thanks for having me on the.
Speaker 4: Show and you came in a league in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4: One what was the league like back? Then because you
Speaker 4: always hear about these different stories from different, Errors but
Speaker 4: talk to me about nineteen ninety one coming into THE.
Speaker 1: Nfl were you born?
Speaker 8: YET i?
Speaker 1: WAS i was a fat chubby kid hitting. Baseballs, yeah
Speaker 1: we have that in.
Speaker 8: COMMON i played a little league. BASEBALL i think we
Speaker 8: were twenty some years. Apart BUT i did Play williams
Speaker 8: port in basketball WHEN i was a freshman at He
Speaker 8: Mayus High school in He, Mayus. Pennsylvania that's about as
Speaker 8: close as we. Overlap BUT i couldn't hit the, curveball.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately but, Yeah so nineteen ninety, One Bill parcells was
Speaker 8: my head. Coach he drafted. Me my locker during training
Speaker 8: camp was right Between Lawrence taylor And Carl. Banks, wow
Speaker 8: that pretty much tells you all you need to. Know
Speaker 8: Phil simms was the. Quarterback they just won The Super
Speaker 8: bowl AND i think the time of possession is still
Speaker 8: a record for A Super. Bowl New York giants beat
Speaker 8: The bills first of their four. Losses so it was a,
Speaker 8: tough physical league back. Then they didn't have any of
Speaker 8: the players safety rules they have. Today very, competitive very,
Speaker 8: physical very. Tough training camps were long and tedious and
Speaker 8: you really had, to you, know earn your. Stripes it
Speaker 8: brought a lot of guys into camp and it was
Speaker 8: hard to compete for a. POSITION i went to a
Speaker 8: team that was the oldest team in the league at the,
Speaker 8: time and they had all the receivers back from the year.
Speaker 8: Before it was a third round, pick SO i felt
Speaker 8: good about. It but back then wasn't uncommon to see
Speaker 8: second or third round picks cut if they didn't pan
Speaker 8: out in training. Camp so it was a lot of.
Speaker 8: Fun it was a dream come true for me to
Speaker 8: be drafted and to go to a team that just
Speaker 8: won A Super bowl and to play with some of
Speaker 8: the greatest players in the history of the, game and
Speaker 8: definitely some of the Greatest New york football. Giants you,
Speaker 8: Know Phil simms was our, Quarterback Jeff hosteler was on the.
Speaker 8: Team both those guys Won Super, bowls and THEN lt
Speaker 8: And Carl banks and right on down the.
Speaker 3: Line you, Know Matt castle talks about how quarterbacks, now
Speaker 3: you know they have a bit of invincibility around.
Speaker 4: Them you don't want to hurt.
Speaker 3: Them you, know it affects the bottom. Line and as
Speaker 3: you may, here the wide receivers back in the day
Speaker 3: did not have what they have. Now how do you
Speaker 3: think you would have played different if all those shots
Speaker 3: couldn't have been taken on?
Speaker 8: You i'll tell you what you. KNOW i was known
Speaker 8: by the end of my career as being the player
Speaker 8: in the, league that were the least pads of any
Speaker 8: player in the. LEAGUE i wore like a pair of
Speaker 8: punters shoulder pads And matt knows what those are. Like
Speaker 8: you could fold them up and put them in your back.
Speaker 8: POCKET i wore a helmet and that was. It, cleats
Speaker 8: that was. It no. Pads but WHEN i first started
Speaker 8: with The, GIANTS i had every pad in the, world
Speaker 8: including a neck roll THAT i was forced to wear
Speaker 8: about halfway through the season BECAUSE i was breaking up
Speaker 8: the wedge on a kickoff coverage in it and you,
Speaker 8: know they used to have offensive linemen set in the
Speaker 8: wedge back then, anyway tweaked the neck and end up
Speaker 8: with a neck. Roll every team in the, league the
Speaker 8: receivers on their team would come up to me and, said,
Speaker 8: man you're giving us a bad. Look you got to
Speaker 8: get rid of that neck. Roll Pet our Trainer Ronnie,
Speaker 8: barnes who's still there by the, way he's A hall Of,
Speaker 8: famer would't let me play without wearing the neck. Role
Speaker 8: i'm glad he did, so even though we didn't have
Speaker 8: player safety. Rules you, Know LUCKILY i had a guy
Speaker 8: looking out for me who didn't want me to hurt
Speaker 8: myself any. Worse i'm all for protecting. Quarterbacks you, know
Speaker 8: it's tough when you get down to your third or fourth.
Speaker 8: Quarterback not all quarterbacks are. Equal sometimes you get lucky
Speaker 8: and you have a diamond in the. Rough other times
Speaker 8: it affects the, game especially even if they're, talented because
Speaker 8: they don't get the reps throughout the. Season So i'm
Speaker 8: all for protecting quarterbacks and protecting. Players you, know as
Speaker 8: a father now with kids that play in the, game
Speaker 8: you want to see the best players on the, field
Speaker 8: and you want to see guys stay. Healthy and even
Speaker 8: from a fan, standpoint right you fans want to get
Speaker 8: used to the names of the players on their. Team
Speaker 8: they don't want, to you, know you, know getting injured
Speaker 8: and leaving and then they got to buy a new.
Speaker 4: Jersey you, know you played for multiple different, organizations and
Speaker 4: some people would even consider you during your career a
Speaker 4: late bloom er so to, speak because you go To
Speaker 4: denver and you probably had your most success. There what
Speaker 4: was it About denver that created this culture of success for?
Speaker 8: You that's a great. QUESTION i think the short answer
Speaker 8: IS i found a coach that believed in me and
Speaker 8: gave me an, Opportunity and that was the. Key Mike
Speaker 8: shanahan believed in me and gave me an opportunity to
Speaker 8: get on the. Field you, know it was. INTERESTING i
Speaker 8: think every player grows and develops the longer they're in the. League,
Speaker 8: obviously your rookie season is your first. Season you're, new
Speaker 8: you played at the collegiate, level you never played against
Speaker 8: the best players in the. World it's a more complicated.
Speaker 8: Game they spend every day all day getting ready to play.
Speaker 8: Football that's all they. Do they don't go to, class
Speaker 8: they don't have a. Job it's all about. Football so
Speaker 8: it's a much higher level of competition and so you
Speaker 8: know that, takes you, know an adjustment getting used to
Speaker 8: that level of. Competition but also you know you have the.
Speaker 8: Time you know there are more games and it's a longer,
Speaker 8: season and even, physically right you get bigger and stronger
Speaker 8: up till about each twenty five twenty, Six so you're
Speaker 8: still growing physically from college to THE. Nfl but In New,
Speaker 8: york you, KNOW i went to a really good, team
Speaker 8: and you KNOW i did get the for what it's,
Speaker 8: Worth New York Football. Giants you, Know rookie of The
Speaker 8: year for my. Team BUT i went to a team
Speaker 8: that didn't throw the ball a whole. Lot you guys
Speaker 8: will appreciate. This the leading wide receiver wide receiver on
Speaker 8: the team the year before the year they won The Super,
Speaker 8: bowl had twenty six catches on the. Season so like
Speaker 8: a lot of people look at your success in terms
Speaker 8: of just your, production, RIGHT i mean people that don't
Speaker 8: know the, game they'll just look at. Stats how many,
Speaker 8: catches how many? Yards AND i get it, right that's
Speaker 8: one way they can compare across. Teams but when you're
Speaker 8: on a team that only you know that targets they're
Speaker 8: leading wide receiver maybe fifty times in a whole, season
Speaker 8: and they have twenty six, catches you're not going to have.
Speaker 8: Stats SO i didn't have great stats like as a.
Speaker 8: Rookie BUT i also went to a team that just
Speaker 8: won The Super, bowl that had a dominant run game
Speaker 8: and a dominant defense that didn't throw the ball a.
Speaker 8: Lot my second, year led the team in. RECEIVING i was.
Speaker 8: Excited i'm, like all, right led the team in. RECEIVING
Speaker 8: i think it was like forty some, catches but that
Speaker 8: led the. Team and then and you, know the following,
Speaker 8: year we went through a coaching, change So Bill parcells
Speaker 8: was my. Coach he stepped down before the first. Season
Speaker 8: he said he had heart, problems stepped away from the
Speaker 8: game for a little. Bit Then Ray hanley became our head.
Speaker 8: Coach we were an older. Team guys started retiring and we.
Speaker 8: Lost we went eight and, eight six and. Ten he
Speaker 8: was let go and Then Dan reeves was. Hired And Dan,
Speaker 8: reeves he is a legend In denver for all the
Speaker 8: great seasons he had. There but he didn't like. Me
Speaker 8: he cut, me and so after one season there as a,
Speaker 8: BACKUP i WAS i was. Cut THEN i you, KNOW
Speaker 8: i had to make a really tough decision what team
Speaker 8: to try out, for AND i wanted to go to
Speaker 8: a team that had a chance to win A Super.
Speaker 8: Bowl so it was by. Design it was very proactive about.
Speaker 8: It had a handful of TEAMS i wanted to try out.
Speaker 8: Four one of them was the forty Nine. Ers went
Speaker 8: to try out for the forty nine, ers was in
Speaker 8: a camp with fourteen receivers and all four of the.
Speaker 8: Receivers by the, way they only kept four, receivers which
Speaker 8: is unheard. Of but when two of them Are Jerry
Speaker 8: rice And John. Taylor you don't need a whole lot of,
Speaker 8: THEM i. Guess so tried out for the, team luckily made.
Speaker 8: It that's a whole other made that, team got to
Speaker 8: be on a Super bowl championship. Team Mike shanahan saw
Speaker 8: me in, practice and BECAUSE i didn't get into games a,
Speaker 8: lot right backing Up Jerry rice at the, time so
Speaker 8: brought me To denver with. Him she told me he'd
Speaker 8: give me an opportunity to. Compete that's ALL i needed to,
Speaker 8: hear and went out and competed and got that. Opportunity
Speaker 8: so thank. Goodness you, KNOW i went to the forty nine,
Speaker 8: ers got to win a Super. Bowl that was pretty,
Speaker 8: cool even as a. Backup and then you, know you
Speaker 8: never know who's watching, You. Right Mike shannan barely talked
Speaker 8: to me during the, season, Right he was always coaching
Speaker 8: the starters and installing the offense and talking to the.
Speaker 8: Team but fortunately he noticed WHAT i was doing in.
Speaker 8: PRACTICE i worked really hard and had a lot of.
Speaker 8: Fun brought me To denver and then we won two
Speaker 8: More Super bowls in the next five, years and the
Speaker 8: rest is.
Speaker 3: History you talk about not a lot of receptions because
Speaker 3: they didn't throw the ball as much whenever you were
Speaker 3: in THE, nfl at least at. First but when you
Speaker 3: were At, stanford were you doing a lot of blocking
Speaker 3: from the wide receiver? Pasosition did that help you transition
Speaker 3: into THE? Nfl, yeah you, KNOW.
Speaker 8: I took a lot of pride in. Blocking you, know
Speaker 8: WHEN i was in seventh and eighth. GRADE i, Know,
Speaker 8: matt maybe you were a little chubby or as a.
Speaker 8: KID i wasn't really, chubby BUT i. DID i was,
Speaker 8: TALL i was a big. Kid SO i got moved
Speaker 8: to offense and defensive line in seventh and eighth. Grade
Speaker 8: SO i played a little o IN d, line AND
Speaker 8: i promised Myself i'd work as hard as possible playing
Speaker 8: wide receiver SO i didn't get bumped back down IN d,
Speaker 8: Line and SO i was on a crazy diets and everything.
Speaker 8: Else BUT i learned how to, block you, know as
Speaker 8: a little kid play in, line and then WHEN i
Speaker 8: got To, stanford it's SOMETHING i took. Pride AND i
Speaker 8: was always you, know borderline tight, end you, know six.'
Speaker 8: five i was two thirty eight in, high school and
Speaker 8: they were always trying to bump me down to play.
Speaker 8: Tight END but i kept, losing weight so they'd keep me.
Speaker 8: At RECEIVER and i remember there was a game AT
Speaker 8: against ucla ACTUALLY where i got in. The game they're
Speaker 8: working to throw a lot of passes, to ME but
Speaker 8: i had a stinger in my SHOULDER and i couldn't
Speaker 8: really move my right ARM and i had to block
Speaker 8: just with. One arm so THAT'S when, I really, i
Speaker 8: think understood how important. TECHNIQUE was, I know i had
Speaker 8: to get my body in the right position between the
Speaker 8: ball carrier and the defender in order to be able
Speaker 8: to stalk block just using, one arm and it made sense.
Speaker 8: To me so then ever, since then, YOU know i
Speaker 8: took a lot of pride. In it it's all about
Speaker 8: leveraging technique and a little bit of want. To right
Speaker 8: there's a lot of receivers that kind of believe that
Speaker 8: the shoulders were made for suits and not for blocking
Speaker 8: or hitting. Defensive guys but, you know, for ME one
Speaker 8: i took pride IN and i thought it could help the,
Speaker 8: team win and two was a great way to get on.
Speaker 8: The fields kind Of How rod SMITH, And i rod's
Speaker 8: ringer Fame. With denver we Won Some super. Bowls together he,
Speaker 8: you know HE and i used to have a little
Speaker 8: side bets on who could declete the most DB's in,
Speaker 8: a game and we'd usually have somewhere between three four
Speaker 8: dec leaders in. A game and for the listeners that
Speaker 8: don't know what, that is a decleaners when you knock
Speaker 8: a guy on, the ground he has to be off
Speaker 8: his cleats and on the ground doesn't count if you hit.
Speaker 8: Him hard he actually has to physically be on. The
Speaker 8: ground and so we'd usually have three or four would be,
Speaker 8: the winner one or two would be, the loser and
Speaker 8: five ten dollars bets to see who could declete the.
Speaker 8: Most players and we, you know in, the beginning we.
Speaker 8: Were backups we were backing up two first round draft Picks,
Speaker 8: with denver and there was the way that we could
Speaker 8: get the coach to stop the, Film rights like all of,
Speaker 8: a sudden you're in front of the team watching. The
Speaker 8: film somebody makes a play and they rewind it and
Speaker 8: say what's going on, over here and they kind of
Speaker 8: notice to one of us knocking somebody to. The ground
Speaker 8: and then once you start doing that in the, run
Speaker 8: game all of a sudden they forget you're in there
Speaker 8: right and they throw the football and you catch it
Speaker 8: and then you catch it again and then next thing,
Speaker 8: you know they don't mind leaving you in there on.
Speaker 8: Pass plays and that's kind of how we both began
Speaker 8: our careers With The denver broncos and went from two
Speaker 8: backups to starting On Two super bowl.
Speaker 4: Championship teams the real question is when you did get,
Speaker 4: decleted somebody did you let, Them, know hey daddy just
Speaker 4: took you down to.
Speaker 1: The ground, Oh.
Speaker 8: Man usually it was them that was talking. TO smack
Speaker 8: i was never a big, smack talker, but yeah every
Speaker 8: time i'd knock one of, them down they would they'd
Speaker 8: have something. To SAY and i remember there's ONE particular
Speaker 8: dB who i we had to face twice a year
Speaker 8: who had all kinds of creative names for me that
Speaker 8: he would. Call ME and, i, said oh, come, on
Speaker 8: man don't be, a baby and, he's like that's all
Speaker 8: you got and you went into another rant of expletives
Speaker 8: and inappropriate And then, I'd, say okay don't be a
Speaker 8: don't be a. Big baby what do want? Me Say
Speaker 8: like i'm trying to catch my breath BETWEEN plays i had,
Speaker 8: To block, I'M like i don't have time to. Smack talk.
Speaker 4: What did you Think of.
Speaker 1: Christian's performance that's. Last, WEEK.
Speaker 8: Oh i was so proud. Of, him man that was
Speaker 8: a hard. Fought battle, you know they've bowled each other
Speaker 8: plenty of times last couple, of years a couple of Times.
Speaker 8: In philly, tough atmosphere it, was cold it was really,
Speaker 8: really windy and he went out there. AND competed i
Speaker 8: was proud of him and. HIS team I thought kyle
Speaker 8: did a great job. Of coaching the defense found a
Speaker 8: way to make a play and win the game at,
Speaker 8: the end and they had to work for everything that.
Speaker 8: They got that defensive front. Is phenomenal they're really really
Speaker 8: good d line. And linebackers was a lot of room,
Speaker 8: to run but then they started getting it going a
Speaker 8: little bit in the, second half and then they had
Speaker 8: to win in a really. Windy environment the wins were
Speaker 8: like thirty forty miles per, hour sideways which is why
Speaker 8: you saw a couple of missed, you know, extra points
Speaker 8: and it was. Swirling wins so that, ONE catch, i
Speaker 8: mean what a great play Call, by kyle great Throw By.
Speaker 8: Juwan jennings And then christian really had. To adjust, you
Speaker 8: know when you throw a football and the winds, taking it,
Speaker 8: you know you try to track it and then all of,
Speaker 8: a sudden the. Win pushes they had five or six
Speaker 8: yards the, other way and you got to retrack it
Speaker 8: and make an over the. SHOULDER catch i don't know
Speaker 8: if as, A receiver, i KNOW but i don't know
Speaker 8: if everybody understands how hard of a catch that was
Speaker 8: that he made in, that stadium in that environment with
Speaker 8: The win to track the ball and then have it
Speaker 8: move on you and have to readjust and make it
Speaker 8: over the. Shoulder catch for a running back to be
Speaker 8: able to do that is pretty. Unheard OF so i
Speaker 8: was really glad he made. That play that was a really,
Speaker 8: difficult play and then of course you know he was
Speaker 8: able to make another one later and score, another touchdown
Speaker 8: which was. Pretty COOL but i think this Forty nine
Speaker 8: ers team is the epitome of. TEAM football, i mean
Speaker 8: think of all the guys they've lost throughout, the, season right,
Speaker 8: you Know Obviously fred Warner and bosa and so many
Speaker 8: other guys were injured going into, This game butthune and
Speaker 8: lost so many guys, on defense and then, you know
Speaker 8: it's heartbreaking To lose George. RIGHT kittle, i mean that
Speaker 8: guy is he is the heart and soul. That team
Speaker 8: he's been, there forever and every time he touches, the ball.
Speaker 8: There's energy he's such an. Unselfish player and we're watching
Speaker 8: the game with his family and, you know, we're competing we're,
Speaker 8: all cheering and then he gets hurt and it, was like,
Speaker 8: you know it feels like a funeral there for. A
Speaker 8: while and they're so such, incredible people such a. Great
Speaker 8: family they're still cheering on, the team but you can
Speaker 8: see in their eyes they're so Upset that george, is
Speaker 8: hurt and you know your heart's broken. For him, You
Speaker 8: know i've been in, that position my kids have been in.
Speaker 8: That position it's a horrible place to be while your
Speaker 8: team's still out. There playing so it was really just
Speaker 8: the full gambit of emotions watching. That game but to answer,
Speaker 8: your question is Happy that, Christian competed happy that his
Speaker 8: team competed and found a way to get a really.
Speaker 4: Tough win what is It About kyle shanahan that makes
Speaker 4: him so, special that in the face of so much
Speaker 4: adversity that they had, this season that he's able to
Speaker 4: keep this team together and keep moving the right direction and.
Speaker 1: WINNING games i.
Speaker 8: Think he's really good at evaluating the talent that he
Speaker 8: has on his team and trying to put those guys
Speaker 8: in position. To win he's one of the coaches in
Speaker 8: the league and there's not that many of them that
Speaker 8: speak to the, whole team meaning he understands every single
Speaker 8: assignment of every single player on the team at. All
Speaker 8: times so he'll have a team meeting and he'll talk
Speaker 8: offense and defense once during. The week he'll talk run
Speaker 8: game once during, the week and he's talking to both
Speaker 8: sides of, the ball the offense and. The defense and,
Speaker 8: you know offense in terms of, their responsibility defense in
Speaker 8: terms of their gap responsibility and. Their ASSIGNMENT and i
Speaker 8: think when you're a coach that can, do that every
Speaker 8: guy in the room kind of sits up because they
Speaker 8: know he, sees you and you know he knows what
Speaker 8: your assignment is and so there's no hiding. From HIM
Speaker 8: and i think that's the kind of coach that garners
Speaker 8: a lot. Of respect and it also is the kind
Speaker 8: of coach that is able to put in great game
Speaker 8: plans for his players because he understands their ability and.
Speaker 8: Their ASSIGNMENTS so i think that's what makes. THEM great
Speaker 8: i know he's he's He's a. Lifer right, you know
Speaker 8: he's the Son Of. Mike shannan he was the ball
Speaker 8: BOY when i played for the forty nine ers back
Speaker 8: in nineteen. Ninety four so he's grown up around football his.
Speaker 8: Whole life he's completely obsessed with it and he committed
Speaker 8: his life to. The game and, you know they say
Speaker 8: it's not work if you love what. YOU'RE doing i
Speaker 8: think he just he loves what. He's doing and, you
Speaker 8: know he pulled a play out the other Against the
Speaker 8: eagles that he had called like six years. Or, something
Speaker 8: yeah he had in his back pocket until he. Needed
Speaker 8: it but he's an encyclopedia of information and he's a
Speaker 8: real technician and tactician in, terms of, you know expecting
Speaker 8: the little things to be done right on both sides of.
Speaker 3: The Ball so i'm trying to always get my, protein
Speaker 3: up keep my, protein high. You know and we're a protein,
Speaker 3: society now like it's starting to be really rewarded and
Speaker 3: the nutritional value is starting to be celebrated and you
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Speaker 8: Got the whole family. On. There, Yeah well LISA, and i,
Speaker 8: you know when our kids, were younger we were you
Speaker 8: know how you're always scrapping to put together like a meal,
Speaker 8: for him and it's hard to can't eat a cheese
Speaker 8: steak at halftime of a little league. Football game so
Speaker 8: we'd be running healthy snacks down to him in high
Speaker 8: school when they were in, little league and we have
Speaker 8: leaves out of special concoction drink that you, put together
Speaker 8: and then we try to get. Healthy snacks and a
Speaker 8: couple of our kids, have allergies so our, whole lives
Speaker 8: we've really been trying to put together a super healthy
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Speaker 8: GREAT man i.
Speaker 4: Want, some yeah it's like one of my favorite snacks
Speaker 4: is a. Protein ball don't, Kid yourself but it doesn't
Speaker 4: look like it comes in. That packaging it's like mine
Speaker 4: are falling APART because i don't put enough peanut butter.
Speaker 4: In there but speaking, of nutrition obviously nutrition was a
Speaker 4: big part of your life through your, playing career but
Speaker 4: obviously after when did nutrition come to the forefront and
Speaker 4: who helped introduce you to the benefits of being nutritionally
Speaker 4: sound so? To, SPEAK.
Speaker 8: Well i think it's a. Pro athlete and, you know even,
Speaker 8: before that in high school, AND college i always your body's, your,
Speaker 8: temple right that's what you're going to. Battle with football is, a,
Speaker 8: tough physical collision sport and you need to be at
Speaker 8: your best if you want to play at a. High
Speaker 8: level so even in, high school, YOU know i tried
Speaker 8: to do what. WAS right i don't know if you
Speaker 8: guys remember you know weader's. Weight GAINER but i would
Speaker 8: take like, you know the weaders protein in the weaders
Speaker 8: weak in or not KNOWING what i. Was, doing necessarily
Speaker 8: that was one of the few products out of, the
Speaker 8: TIME and i would load it with. PEANUT butter i
Speaker 8: was drinking raw Eggs. LIKE rocky i was trying to
Speaker 8: do all THE things I thought i was supposed to.
Speaker 8: Do right so it was important, to ME but i
Speaker 8: MIGHT maybe i wasn't as informed then in height, in college,
Speaker 8: you know they tried to move me to tight end,
Speaker 8: multiple times and today tight end would be a. Great
Speaker 8: position at the Time At notre Dame, in michigan you're,
Speaker 8: Blocking right YOU'RE blocking dns for most of, the Game
Speaker 8: and i'm thinking it's a little more fun to play.
Speaker 8: Wide RECEIVER so i really had to, lose WEIGHT and
Speaker 8: i had to go from about two. THIRTY eight i
Speaker 8: got down to two twenty FOUR when i showed Up,
Speaker 8: at stanford and then they tried to still try to
Speaker 8: move me to, tight END so i got down to one.
Speaker 8: Ninety seven so that was probably not a healthy weight.
Speaker 8: For ME but i, learned about, you know tracking my grams,
Speaker 8: of protein carbohydrates, and fats, staying hydrated, you know eating high.
Speaker 8: Protein foods a lot of times they were not very.
Speaker 8: Tasty foods, you know you're eating very low fat or
Speaker 8: non fat turkey and chicken and cutting the carbs and
Speaker 8: not eating any desserts and then monitoring. Your CALORIES so
Speaker 8: i and then working out like crazy four or five hours.
Speaker 8: A DAY so i did that to get an, incredible
Speaker 8: shape probably, you know three to four percent body fat at,
Speaker 8: the TIME but i was probably, too skinny so, YOU
Speaker 8: know i aired on the, heavy side aired on the,
Speaker 8: light side AND eventually i just came to the conclusion
Speaker 8: that the best way to fuel yourself is to do
Speaker 8: it intelligently and. With moderation so for the, most part
Speaker 8: eat healthy foods if, you, can right, you know five
Speaker 8: TO six i believe it, or not spread out every
Speaker 8: two to four hours of fruits and vegetables and healthy
Speaker 8: protein sources and minimal carbs and definitely lowg lyzema cards
Speaker 8: that you're going to. Eat them and, then unfortunately like
Speaker 8: we can't all walk around some some pro athletes do
Speaker 8: right with their. Own chef not everybody has their. Own
Speaker 8: chef not everybody can walk around with tupperware with all
Speaker 8: their chicken and turkey that's cooked up for them and,
Speaker 8: eat that, you know four or five times. A day
Speaker 8: so it's really important have some kind of additional food
Speaker 8: intake when you're on, the go and that's why we
Speaker 8: came up with our protein bites and so they're, super
Speaker 8: healthy plant, based protein, low calorie high protein again very easy.
Speaker 8: To digest if you're going to, you know take them
Speaker 8: before a sport or at halftime. Or postgame and and
Speaker 8: the timing of your food and takes important, as well
Speaker 8: in addition to what. You're eating so, you know if
Speaker 8: you're an athlete especially but, really anybody you don't really
Speaker 8: want to go more than four hours. WITHOUT eating i
Speaker 8: know people will, debate that but you start converting food.
Speaker 8: To fat if you go too long, without eating your
Speaker 8: body goes into. Starvation mode so you don't need to
Speaker 8: consume huge meals five times, a day but you do
Speaker 8: need to consume something to keep your body balanced and
Speaker 8: so that you have. Ongoing energy so that's why the
Speaker 8: protein bites can be, YOU know i eat them at
Speaker 8: least once or twice, a day usually before lunch. And
Speaker 8: dinner when you go through that, long stretch you start feeling,
Speaker 8: hypo glycium you can start getting tired if you're, in
Speaker 8: class if you're, at work you know that low ye
Speaker 8: hit in the middle of. The afternoon that's where they
Speaker 8: come in really handy. For Me but i've also substituted
Speaker 8: them for a dessert because they taste. Really GOOD but
Speaker 8: i mean that nutrition has always been important, to me,
Speaker 8: you know if we want to go, FURTHER back i
Speaker 8: think the time that was really a difficult time for
Speaker 8: me in terms of weight WAS when i Was In,
Speaker 8: little LEAGUE before i got moved to offense and. Defensive
Speaker 8: LINE because i was a. Big kid it wasn't, really
Speaker 8: FAT but i was a. BIG kid i got put
Speaker 8: on pretty Much the. ATKINS diet i was eating hot
Speaker 8: dogs and. Sour kraut THAT'S what i had for. All
Speaker 8: season and it, WAS crazy, i MEAN because i had to.
Speaker 8: Make weight AND then i remember my coach and family
Speaker 8: they'd all be waiting with like candy bars and all
Speaker 8: this other kind of delicious food after the, weigh in
Speaker 8: Because In pop warner you weigh in. Every week but by,
Speaker 8: that time you know you're so starving you can barely even.
Speaker 8: Eat candy it'll make your. Stomach ill and so after
Speaker 8: going through about a year and a half, OF that
Speaker 8: i remember my parents tried to use a little verse psychology,
Speaker 8: on me and, they said you, know what if you
Speaker 8: don't want to, make weight then go ahead eat whatever.
Speaker 8: You WANT and i took them at their WORD and
Speaker 8: i ATE whatever, i WANTED and i showed up about
Speaker 8: fifteen pounds overweight the next week and, my COACH who
Speaker 8: i think was Trying to jerry rig, the scale which
Speaker 8: it was. Just shocked, he's, like what the scale can't,
Speaker 8: be right and it.
Speaker 1: Was right.
Speaker 8: No matter there was no Amount of jerry rigging that
Speaker 8: scale that was going to get me to. Make weight
Speaker 8: SO then i was the kid who sat for the
Speaker 8: rest of. The season i'm on the sideline with my
Speaker 8: jersey turned inside OUT because i. COULDN'T play i played
Speaker 8: the last game of the season because they let all
Speaker 8: the heavy. Kids play it didn't, Make WEIGHT but i
Speaker 8: mean so even as an eight and nine, YEAR old
Speaker 8: i started to become aware of the FUEL that i
Speaker 8: put into, my BODY and i wanted to make sure we're.
Speaker 8: MOVING forward i continue to try to learn more and
Speaker 8: more about, proper nutrition and it becomes increasingly important the
Speaker 8: further you progress as. An athlete but it's really important.
Speaker 8: For everybody it affects. People's moods any parent knows that
Speaker 8: their kids right when they, act up they're usually, what
Speaker 8: tired they didn't get, enough sleep or they're hungry because
Speaker 8: they went too long without, eating well or they ate,
Speaker 8: you know bad foods that made their stomach Upset or
Speaker 8: today there's so many allergies, out there something that they
Speaker 8: had an. Intolerance too so it's always been important. For
Speaker 8: me it's important for, My, wife lisa who was a,
Speaker 8: college athlete it's important for.
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Speaker 1: THANKS guys.
Speaker 4: I have another list.
Speaker 3: FOR you i have ranked if all the quarterbacks were
Speaker 3: my real, life FRIENDS who i would like to be,
Speaker 3: at one all the way down to.
Speaker 1: The, eighth oh this should actually be a. Great list at,
Speaker 1: number one he's number one on.
Speaker 4: BOTH lists I Have.
Speaker 1: Josh allen why because he is the only ONE that
Speaker 1: i have friends that are friends. WITH him i have
Speaker 1: multiple friends that have played In The tao golf tournament,
Speaker 1: with them that have played rounds, of golf and that,
Speaker 1: they're like he's the. Coolest dude he's. Very normal you would. Like,
Speaker 1: him so based off of, Friends recommendations i'm going To
Speaker 1: Put josh allen. At, One okay i'm totally fine.
Speaker 3: With that the only reason, Number Two, Kayleb, williams yes
Speaker 3: because he does not seem like your.
Speaker 1: Typical athlete he, likes art he likes. The arts he
Speaker 1: is an.
Speaker 4: ODD guy i.
Speaker 3: LIKE that I think i could go hang Out With.
Speaker 3: Kayla williams we'd probably either not get along at all
Speaker 3: or be totally in love with.
Speaker 4: Each other one of the two probably totally in Love
Speaker 4: each do you guys go On like scooter?
Speaker 1: Rides together absolutely go to an. Art gallery what's that
Speaker 1: hockey show called where the two guys? ARE gay i.
Speaker 3: Don't know it's a massive show, right now it'd be
Speaker 3: our version, of that that's, your version but straight, close enough,
Speaker 3: you know he.
Speaker 1: Says it really.
Speaker 4: Interesting guy even when you see him in, postgame interviews
Speaker 4: he's so thoughtful in. His answers he waits and he
Speaker 4: doesn't jump the gun. At all he thinks about what
Speaker 4: he's going, to say and then he says it in
Speaker 4: such a way that, you're, like wow it's. PRETTY profound i.
Speaker 4: Like it He.
Speaker 1: Did rivalry there, you go it's crushing.
Speaker 3: Right now He did rivalry two hockey guys and they
Speaker 3: are in a, gay relationship and a lot of athletes
Speaker 3: are apparently reaching out, to, them, Going hey i'm a.
Speaker 1: Closeted athlete, oh, yeah yeah Let's be CALEB. And, i yeah.
Speaker 1: We're closet we're never going to get him to come on. The,
Speaker 1: Show no i'm just saying we.
Speaker 4: Don't care we.
Speaker 1: DON'T care i people think. About it we live.
Speaker 3: Our, lives yeah we just live. Our lives, Next Up,
Speaker 3: Sam Donald, sam donald who can very. Private, GUY yeah
Speaker 3: i don't have to worry about hanging Out with sam
Speaker 3: and taking a bunch of selfies and posting them on.
Speaker 4: The internet we just go and live our lives and
Speaker 4: be private to. The beach you know those ARE two
Speaker 4: usc guys at two. And three, for you that's something
Speaker 4: In Coome bo Nicks at Poor. Bow knicks here's why
Speaker 4: talk to.
Speaker 3: Me daddy, His dad patrick was the head Coach At
Speaker 3: henderson STATE when i was THERE and i was calling
Speaker 3: a lot of, the games traveling around doing uh play?
Speaker 4: By play you called? The, games yeah you Never told
Speaker 4: did he ever bring? This up maybe not never once
Speaker 4: on this podcast if you told, ME play i. Don't
Speaker 4: think let's get in and let's start calling. GAMES together
Speaker 4: i used To like, netflix specials but we could say
Speaker 4: whatever the hell we want like that would be sick
Speaker 4: like we do here Kind.
Speaker 3: Of, YEAH yeah i, WOULD call i would do play
Speaker 3: by play AND then i would have color. At home
Speaker 3: but we couldn't afford a, travel TEAM so i would
Speaker 3: travel and do play by play and color you do.
Speaker 1: Them both i'd have to because we didn't have we
Speaker 1: can for.
Speaker 4: You're such a savage and that's Why your Hall of
Speaker 4: fame radio gods you live up in with thor in them.
Speaker 3: Up there, Fair enough i'll. ACCEPT it i have vot
Speaker 3: next at. Number four at, Number five i'm. Drake me,
Speaker 3: YOU know i feel like his Wife would maake have
Speaker 3: some pretty. Good stuff he seems non problematic. At all
Speaker 3: we could sit around watch. Some shows maybe he, did rivalry.
Speaker 3: WHO knows i.
Speaker 4: Love that that's what your your good time. Would be
Speaker 4: let's sit around watch. Some shows WHAT am i going?
Speaker 1: To do his wife will bake, For, us yes quite.
Speaker 1: A bit i just fits your, Personal, LIKE hey i
Speaker 1: don't really want to leave. MY house I don't i
Speaker 1: really want to see.
Speaker 4: Anybody ELSE if i like you enough to be able
Speaker 4: to sit and watch a show, with, you dude that's
Speaker 4: totally fine with.
Speaker 1: Me and eat some banana bread. Or, something yeah that'd.
Speaker 4: Be perfect.
Speaker 3: Banana brea at NUMBER SIX. C, J, Stroud, why yeah
Speaker 3: his dad's. IN prison a lot of my family's been
Speaker 3: in jail over. The years we could talk about.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 1: Relatable, absolutely uh, You know i'm not A Big ohio.
Speaker 1: State guy be honest. With you you're Not a. Buck,
Speaker 1: guy no, not really you said Like a. BUCKEYE fan
Speaker 1: i think we both come from difficult BACKGROUNDS and i
Speaker 1: think we'd. Have that and he rose. Above it he did.
Speaker 1: For sure i'm still. Over here, Oh stop i'm trying
Speaker 1: right now at, Number Seven. Matthew stafford he's way down,
Speaker 1: the LIST and i know you know him and you.
Speaker 1: Love him anybody that doesn't go by mat matt and
Speaker 1: makes you Call. Him matthew that already feels a.
Speaker 4: Little weird you know what feels very fun when you
Speaker 4: play that long seventeen years and you've been doing it for,
Speaker 4: a while Call.
Speaker 3: Me matthew that's my that's my. Given name and, THEN
Speaker 3: also i don't want to like end up as some
Speaker 3: fodder on the. Watch podcast, That's fair.
Speaker 1: THAT'S fair i. See, that yeah but you, like him,
Speaker 1: love him. LOVE him i think he's one of the. Greatest.
Speaker 3: DUDES yeah i didn't give Him The josh allen TREATMENT
Speaker 3: because I knew castle.
Speaker 1: Loved, Him yeah so, You're like i'm.
Speaker 4: OVER whoever i.
Speaker 1: Am absolutely. Over him AND last I have. Brock party
Speaker 1: you just don't.
Speaker 4: Think you guys would.
Speaker 1: GET along i don't know about.
Speaker 3: Generational gap maybe a. Generational gap, He's, engaged yeah but
Speaker 3: it's like there are generational Gaps with Nicks And Drake
Speaker 3: May May May. Drake, may yeah but those guys are
Speaker 3: like twenty eight. Years old But, WITH purdy i don't
Speaker 3: know enough about him to. EVEN know i don't even
Speaker 3: have a bonding POINT because i, just like WHAT do
Speaker 3: i know?
Speaker 8: About?
Speaker 4: Him imediately, underdog story you guys. COULD immediately i think
Speaker 4: you'd sometimes say that you're an. Underdog story what do?
Speaker 1: You mean SOMETIMES say i am? The ultimate thank you
Speaker 1: saying you've got that.
Speaker 4: To doubt people want to. Doubt you people want to.
Speaker 4: Do this, They, maybe no you're going to overcome all
Speaker 4: the naysayers and you're going to go put yourself in
Speaker 4: a position to. Be successful that's why you two would get.
Speaker 4: Along great less, of friends do? You guys you should
Speaker 4: invite him over, for dinner all the group together and
Speaker 4: see who you really would get.
Speaker 3: Along with say does he, live here because a lot
Speaker 3: of those guys. LIVE here I heard purdy was actually
Speaker 3: moving here in the last. Off season he was looking.
Speaker 3: AT houses i don't even feel like it's like the weird.
Speaker 3: Rumor anymore if somebody Says that i'm, A gatherer i
Speaker 3: mean that's why. You, stayed yeah there's.
Speaker 4: So many guys that. ARE here I Mean jared allen
Speaker 4: who came on The. Show, road yeah way out, THERE right.
Speaker 3: I got his mail ones come on on. This street,
Speaker 3: huh oh, no, way, yeah yeah He's got he'll be
Speaker 3: coming back here soon to certain he did you hear
Speaker 3: the Story. About kettle he goes in and asks for a.
Speaker 3: Bottle tequila it's a. Pretty gangster that's when you know
Speaker 3: you're not. Coming back that's when.
Speaker 1: You know no during. The game no during.
Speaker 4: The game while he's, sitting there when he, found out
Speaker 4: like it's, an achilles, he's done like it all.
Speaker 1: SET in i don't know if he asked for one
Speaker 1: or if they just brought. Him one the owner brought.
Speaker 4: Him One nice and the fact that the owner, DID
Speaker 4: it i think makes it even. MORE gangster i changed
Speaker 4: that pick forty nine Ers. Over Seattle aaron.
Speaker 1: Rodgers is building a, house here if he's not.
Speaker 4: ALREADY here.
Speaker 1: I did hear that. As well but that's been.
Speaker 4: Going on somebody told me that three.
Speaker 1: Years ago the new neighborhood around here that.
Speaker 3: They've BEEN what i have heard is he bought, land,
Speaker 3: there yes and that neighborhood's not even fully, built yet not.
Speaker 1: AT all.
Speaker 4: I looked i went over there and looked, at somebody,
Speaker 4: you know your baller. Like, THAT no i went and
Speaker 4: looked at some of. The lots i'm always, YOU know i.
Speaker 4: ENTERTAINED myself, I go i go to open house on.
Speaker 4: Weekend food, i'm, like oh, you guys are got any crackers?
Speaker 4: And cheese let me have you guess serving champagne at
Speaker 4: this place? Right? Now anybody and you feed my. Kids
Speaker 4: too they got to check out the plus. SPOT too
Speaker 4: i want to make sure that they're comfortable in. THIS
Speaker 4: space i showed my wife your. Van today oh? You?
Speaker 3: Dead, YEAH yeah, i said look at That massive camo
Speaker 3: type green sprinter van. Out there she, was, like dang.
Speaker 3: That's cool who is? THAT'S huge, i, said yeah. It's
Speaker 3: castle just because he's got. Five, kids yeah THAT'S why
Speaker 3: i brought. It today i'm picking up.
Speaker 4: All five, i'm like and THE reason i specifically bring
Speaker 4: that vehicle is, quite frankly they get to spread out
Speaker 4: and they're not on top of. Each Other and i'm,
Speaker 4: telling you after school is the worst time a lot
Speaker 4: a lot of times for the kids because they've been good, all,
Speaker 4: Day right they're they're behaving. At school then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden they finally get in the car and they're
Speaker 4: just like and they're touching and they're, talking smack and
Speaker 4: somebody's mad.
Speaker 1: About this.
Speaker 4: Somebody's mad they're probably What did, i'd say predy and
Speaker 4: just had enough to get.
Speaker 8: They're, hungry, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah AND so i Get that van spread them all
Speaker 4: out a little bit more joy comes to. Our life
Speaker 4: on the, way Home, baller van, for sure you'll be there,
Speaker 4: soon enough, my friend take, us home give us one.
Speaker 4: Final topic, UH honestly i think we should end on
Speaker 4: that topic, right there because that was a.
Speaker 1: Solid topic mine, is, like.
Speaker 4: Well what did you have?
Speaker 1: Over there it wrote? Something, DOWN yeah i wrote.
Speaker 4: Something down but let's. Be honest this is like, football
Speaker 4: stuff which. That's entertaining mine, was like, you know Can
Speaker 4: the patriots offensive line hold up Against? The Texans will campbell?
Speaker 4: Came back oh, YEAH yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean Just Think? Will campbell huh how do? YOU
Speaker 1: play i think he played. Pretty, well yeah he's still coming,
Speaker 1: back around, but yeah he's still what his second.
Speaker 4: Game back is?
Speaker 1: He healthy he's. Still, rookie yeah he's. Getting, there no is,
Speaker 1: He healthy but it was healthy enough to come back
Speaker 1: out on, the FIELD so i guess. HE'S healthy, i
Speaker 1: mean he's a great option.
Speaker 4: To have and even when your first games back is
Speaker 4: in the playoffs against a, good team you're gonna have
Speaker 4: some plays that make you look a little. Bit foolish
Speaker 4: at the end of, the day consistency factor is going.
Speaker 4: To matter and the fact that he got his feet
Speaker 4: wet last week and now he goes into this week,
Speaker 4: probably stronger healthier and more ready to play will be
Speaker 4: a good thing For.
Speaker 3: The patriots is anybody healthy right now if you've played? All,
Speaker 3: season ooh that's a.
Speaker 4: Great question if, you are you probably didn't play that
Speaker 4: much and everybody's got their little knick knicks, and bumps
Speaker 4: bruises everything that you're. Dealing with some people are healthier.
Speaker 4: THAN others i do believe. The teams the biggest advantage
Speaker 4: for having. THE buy i always say this is you
Speaker 4: have a week to work on your body to get
Speaker 4: healthy to it's not so much your mind as it is,
Speaker 4: your body because that extra week actually really helps get your,
Speaker 4: team healthier especially the guys that were ON the cusp
Speaker 4: that might go might not if they get that extra
Speaker 4: week and they're say eighty five percent versus is fifty percent.
Speaker 3: Couldn't go that's a. Huge factor, final question how long
Speaker 3: you're gonna leave? The BEARD because i think it looks great.
Speaker 1: On, YOU yeah i.
Speaker 4: DON'T know i go back and forth because you know
Speaker 4: it's getting a ganging life where you see but do
Speaker 4: you see the?
Speaker 3: Little?
Speaker 1: Whites, no, no no you do because you look at
Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror. A. Lot no my wife came
Speaker 1: up and. Said whites my, wife says how about those
Speaker 1: blondes in. Your beard, i'm like you're just saying blonde
Speaker 1: because you know.
Speaker 4: They're, white, yeah yeah it's. A beard it's a few
Speaker 4: white that's. Good, Man yeah i'm not scared about. Rocking
Speaker 4: it the LAST time i actually grew out my beard
Speaker 4: even a lot bigger, than this it WAS. During covid
Speaker 4: and then my agent calls, And says fox wants you
Speaker 4: to do an interview for. Calling GAMES so i can't
Speaker 4: go to. The STUDIO we i set up a iPad in.
Speaker 4: My room is iPad or desktop or something. Like that
Speaker 4: in my bedroom and, he says they're going to, see
Speaker 4: you so you need to shave and. GET so i
Speaker 4: put on like a, little coat, button down shave my
Speaker 4: BEARD that i had going for like, two MONTHS and
Speaker 4: i thought looked. Pretty good at that point we. Get
Speaker 4: on they don't see me. AT all i just see
Speaker 4: the game FILM and i have one producer in this
Speaker 4: YEAR and i have the play by play in, this year,
Speaker 4: audio only, audio only shave. MY beard i had been
Speaker 4: growing this thing out for two MONTHS and i thought it.
Speaker 4: Looked dirty didn't see me. At all i'm dressed up,
Speaker 4: by myself, clean shaven with a, suit coat like a
Speaker 4: coat top on and a, button, down, thinking hey they
Speaker 4: might take a look in.
Speaker 3: The CAMERA maybe i can wow him. That way, no ovable,
Speaker 3: look good feel, good though, look good. Feel, GOOD yeah
Speaker 3: i would have cut the. BEARD though i had a
Speaker 3: guy onland. ON this i was doing a guest spot
Speaker 3: on a sports show this past weekend and one of
Speaker 3: the guys that was hosting the show was Based In
Speaker 3: kansas city and they asked. About you, they Said How's matt?
Speaker 3: Castle doing is he still great looking? And charismatic that was.
Speaker 3: His question it was, an nice great looking, you're, like
Speaker 3: well he's aged a.
Speaker 1: LITTLE bit i. DID not, i said he's even better
Speaker 1: looking and more charismatic than you would even know. In
Speaker 1: person what what was?
Speaker 3: This for it was A west Wood one national sports
Speaker 3: SHOW that i was just asked me to be, a
Speaker 3: guest and the guy Was in.
Speaker 1: Kansa city he, led With Is matt castle still great looking?
Speaker 1: And charismatic what a? NICE guy i guess he remembers
Speaker 1: You In? Kansas?
Speaker 4: City, yeah yeah being great looking here. Looking, Charismatic yeah well,
Speaker 4: TELL him, I, SAID hi.
Speaker 1: I can't i'm already.
Speaker 4: Finished. IT yeah i he'll call, you, again though, all
Speaker 4: right he'll call. You again.
Speaker 1: We're done, Thank you, Ed McCaffrey thank You To. Matt
Speaker 1: castle thank You to Drake.
Speaker 6: May may Thank.
Speaker 4: You Kevin I'm bobby bones and we will see you guys. Next.
Speaker 3: Week.
Speaker 8: Bye brother.
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