1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Ron an Adian. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: But I always look to see where the gas station's 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: tanks are, you know, are they at the low end 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: of the lot. The tanker would show up and the 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: guy would just pull the cord. Yeah, it's a little 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: bit of water. What harms are going to do? 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 3: You know? 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Now, imagine you know that in a modern day car 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: what devil will be the car doctor? When it gets 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: up to one hundred and ninety five degrees on the 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 2: average engine, the computer says, Hey, it's hot enough, I'm 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: going to cut back on fuel trip. I'm going to 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: take off the electric choke if we can say it 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: like that, all right, and that'll generate some fan mail. 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: All right, everybody go what electric shop? 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 3: Right? 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: You know? 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 2: You know, if I don't annoy somebody once a week, 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: at least, I know I'm not doing my job. 20 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 22 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive. If 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors. 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Are opening, but I am here to take your calls. 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: At eight five five five six, ninety nine hundred and 27 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: na he. 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Running. 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome a board listeners running you in the car 30 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: doctor at your service, another great week of aoter repair 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: to talk about at the shop and all things relate 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: to the cars. But first let's do this because it's 33 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: that time of year. We're entering full right, and we've 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: we've struggled through the heat of summer with our cars, 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: and now we're going to talk about well, you know, 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: it's it's cruising time, it's car show time, it's auction time. 37 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: I love automobile auctions. It's so fascinating to watch and 38 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: we all love to do it. 39 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: Right. 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: We sit glued to our TV sets thinking, you know, 41 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: look at this car and look at that car and 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: the romance of it, and it just expands into our 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: living rooms and we're all excited by it. Well, if 44 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: you're in the Northeast, in the next couple of weeks, 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: actually a week from today, this weekend, a week from today, 46 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: you will be able to go to Saratoga and take 47 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: part in the Saratoga Automobile Museum motor car auction. And 48 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: here today to talk about it with us is Bill Wyndham. 49 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: He is the auction director, and we're happy to have him. Bill. 50 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: Welcome aboard, sir, thank you glad to be here. 51 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: So the Saratoga Automobile Museum, let's just touch on that 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: if we can. And as the crow as the crow 53 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: flies from New York City, how far is Saratoga to 54 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: get to? 55 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: Well, Ron, it's actually a train ride from Penn Station. 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: It's about a two to two hour and fifteen minute 57 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: ride along a Hudson and brings you right into Saratoga Springs. 58 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: If you're driving, probably two and a half hours, come 59 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: up the thru Way and come to Albany and then 60 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: on the north Way and brings you right into Saratoga Springs, 61 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: home of this year's Belmont horse Race. 62 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah, okay, yeah, sure, absolutely, So you guys 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: have horses and horsepower. I guess. 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: The big summer meet where we bring the finest sources 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: in the world come to compete over a ten week period. 66 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: So talk to me about the automobile museum first, if 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: you can build, you know, the Saratoga Automobile Museum, its 68 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: intention and purpose. If I were to go there, what 69 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: would I expect to say? 70 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: Well, the exhibitions that we put on at the museum 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: changed usually, you know, on a five to six month basis. 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: The museum is situated right into Saratoga State Park, right 73 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: next to the Saratoga Performing Arts Center. The museum itself 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: was once a water bottling plant, and that's what Saratoga 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: was famous for in the early nineteen hundreds. It was 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: a resort area. They called it the playground of Manhattan 77 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: where people would come up and experience the hot, hot 78 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: springs and refreshing fresh water spring waters. And the museum 79 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: we have been there for probably somewhere around twenty two years. Again, 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: we do exhibits, different car exhibits every six months. The 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: current exhibit is focused on Ferrari. The tire exhibit was 82 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: the James Bonded exhibit where we hosted all the James 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: Bond cars, mostly of course asked in Martin. But the 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: current exhibit we have Michael Schumacher winning Formula One car. 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: We have all kinds of different genres of Ferraris from 86 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: different periods. We have a beautiful two fifty gt competition 87 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: on North America Racing team car probably valued somewhere around 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars, and what just left us was a 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: two forty six K, which was the predecessor who actually 90 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: the styling designer the two forty sixteen O one of 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: two and the car valued probably somewhere between sixty and 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: seventy million. We have probably at this point in time 93 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: somewhere fifteen sixteen Ferraris. We also on our second floor 94 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: we have more of the antique cars, and a portion 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: of the upstairs is devoted to the New York racing history, 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: so we have racing cars that have raced at Watkins 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 3: Glenn and local race tracks over the course of time. 98 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: Do you have any you know, you go back the 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: brass period, the thirties, the forties, the fifties, you know, 100 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: and you kind of probably come into modern day. Where's 101 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: the cutoff point? I never thought they asked this question 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: to anyone, but you know, even for the auction or 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: the museum, is there a cutoff point in years where 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: you know, like a nineteen ninety five something is of 105 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: no interest to them, or they've you guys, you don't care. 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: Now, you know. The latest thing, and it's been popularized 107 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: by Haggerty is what's called Radwood. It's a period of 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: the eighties cars now classic, the demand and the focused 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: and interest in cars is pretty much based on the 110 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: demographic and age groups. And what we see is that, 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: you know, as time goes by, so does the interest 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: and demand for certain vehicles. Car enthusiasts, we most of 113 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: us grew up as kids had cars that we lusted after, 114 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: and in my age, we had posters in our bedrooms 115 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: of particular cars or we built models. And what you 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: see is, you know that the age group now what 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: we see the most interest is happens to be cars 118 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: of the eighties. You know, camaro Z twenty eighth, Fox 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: Body Mustangs. And when you go back into the early 120 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: era of the car, or the automobile model a's, model t's, 121 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: thirties and forties cars, they're great for museums, but the 122 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: interest is failing away. 123 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: Because generation has you know, they passed there that. 124 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: Is gone exactly so exactly so, in. 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: Your professional opinion, do you think you know the day 126 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the Holy Grail, right, the Hemi Kudah 127 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: that's worth a million dollars because they only made six 128 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: of them or whatever? Is that car in your estimation 129 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: something going to be worth one hundred thousand dollars. Is 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: the value going to go down at some point because 131 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: there's no interest. 132 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting you say that, because we have a 133 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: Hemicuda in our auction. Is the demand is the prices 134 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: that are being brought for four to twenty six Hemis, 135 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: plymous Dodge Superbirds, Daytona's. I would venture to guess in 136 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: my experience that they have seen the heyday of their value, 137 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: because again, the individuals who lusted for those cars, or 138 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: close to my age or older than I in that 139 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: sixty five to seventy five age group, and it's seventy five, 140 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: if you're tending to get rid of a lot of 141 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: your cars or unfortunately we begin to pass on, and however, 142 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: of that muscle car, a four twenty six Hemi Pistol 143 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: Grip four speed car, it will have certainly demand. All 144 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: the great cars, the very limited edition cars will certainly 145 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: last a lot longer than their brothers and sisters with 146 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: the smaller blocks or less interest. But the cars of 147 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: the big what you know you said talked about brass 148 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:41,479 Speaker 3: cars earlier, the big Packards, the V sixteen Cadillacs, the Dusenbergs. 149 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: Those cars have maintained and risen in value because of 150 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: the expense and the grander of the cars that they 151 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: were during their time. And also what you see is 152 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: the European cars, the Porsches, the Ferraris, because there's an 153 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: international for those cars. The muscle car era was pretty 154 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: much an American phenomena where you could have anybody in 155 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: the world lusting for a Posher or Ferrari. And I 156 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: don't see that market ever. 157 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: Going away ever, going away. Interesting interesting, and you know, 158 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: you never know the kids that lust after the eighties cars. 159 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe when a Hemi Kouda comes down in price 160 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: or a sixty nine twenty eight comes down in price, 161 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: maybe that drives the market back up again, and we're 162 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: back into the same problem. 163 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: And I'd be very surprised if that happens. 164 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Ron. 165 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the younger guys now are 166 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: also you know, they're going more towards the Japanese tuner 167 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: cars because those were the cars, the Supras and the 168 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: Honda As two thousands and cars like that. And if 169 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: you go to a car show, that's where you'll see 170 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: most of your younger guys with the Japanese Causi sports cars. 171 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I just spoke to a younger 172 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: generation individual the other day for lack of a better way. 173 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: But I think he's in his mid thirties now and 174 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: he lusted after it. And he just paid twelve grand 175 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: for an eighty five eighty five, eighty six Terceell Toyota 176 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: urcell with a with a four speed car. Yeah, that's 177 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: and that's and that's. And I asked him, I said, 178 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: but why I remember these cars? They were transportation and 179 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: he said, no, Ronnie goes, he goes, I've been I've 180 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: been looking for this car for the better part of 181 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: three years. And you know, so every generation has their mark, 182 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: I guess, and that's what that's what that's what makes 183 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: it so interesting. Hey, Bill, let me pull over, take 184 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: a pause. When we come back, I'm going to do 185 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: a little bit of a deeper dive. Let's talk about 186 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: what's at the auction if we go up there, up 187 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: to the Saratoga Motor Car auction coming up this next weekend, 188 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: the twenty fourth, let's let's talk about that. So I'm 189 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: running ending in the car. Doctor, I'll be back right 190 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: after this. We're here with Bill Wyndham. 191 00:10:47,800 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: Don't go away. 192 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: I need advice on how to maintain that classic gto 193 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: ron is the guy eight five five, five six zero 194 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. 195 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: Here's Ron. 196 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back, listeners, Ron and Aian. We're here talking to 197 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: Bill Wyndham. He is the director auction director actually for 198 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: the Saratoga Motor Car Auction and also of the Saratoga 199 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: Automobile Museum. Bill, I've got you on the side. You're 200 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: still there, sir, Yes, sir, And let me just correct myself. 201 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: I said the twenty fourth was the date of the auction. 202 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: It's actually next weekend, the twentieth and the twenty first 203 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: of September twenty twenty four. That's where the twenty four 204 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: came in my mind, so, you know, to dive into it. 205 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: I come to the auction, I what can I expect 206 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: to see? I got a couple of questions. What can 207 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: I expect to see? 208 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: You know? 209 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Am I going to see all muscle cars? Am I 210 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: going to see Ferraris? Am I going to see Porsche? 211 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: Am I going to see brass cars? And then if 212 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: I want to actually be involved, I want to buy something? 213 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: How do I do that? You know what's the Signpater? 214 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: Well, I'll start with the inventory I've always prided myself 215 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: and trying to include over the two day event, something 216 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: for everyone. And when I say that, I mean a year, 217 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: a genre, a price point for everyone, not just the 218 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: very very high end like you might see that. Just 219 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 3: we're out of the pebble beach. At the Monterey Week, I 220 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: will have my earliest cars at this point, believe it 221 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: or not, is a very rare one off hearst from 222 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: like nineteen oh four. I have two beautiful packards at 223 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: thirty four and at thirty nine. One is a cabriolet 224 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: two door, the other one of four door cabriolet. Very 225 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: valuable cars, very nice cars. I have cars going up 226 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: into the fifties, what you would expect from that era, 227 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: you know, fifty seven sh hev. I have lots of 228 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: muscle cars. This year we have been blessed with three 229 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: major collections, and the one collection contains twenty four muscle cars, 230 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: primarily Mopar, Chrysler, Dodds, Plymouth products, but also sprinkled in 231 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: or some big box chevyes. I also have another collection 232 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: where we have it's somewhat eclectic but wonderful, and that 233 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: the collection contains a two thousand and six four GT 234 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: Heritage Edition, that is the GT that is in liveried 235 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: like the twenty four hour Lamas winning car, and the 236 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: car has three hundred and fifty original miles on it 237 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: with all three available options. That collection also includes probably 238 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: the finest nineteen sixty eight Shelby GT five hundred convertible 239 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: on the planets, won every national award. It's rare in 240 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 3: that it's a five speed power stick in color of 241 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: brakes air car. Very very few of those cars. I 242 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: also got some very rare Ferraris. One is actually twenty 243 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: ten I'm sorry, twenty twelve F twelve Nardo, one of 244 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: eleven that was built. That's one of five wonderful Ferraris 245 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: we have at this point in time. I have some Lamborghinis. 246 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: I also have a lot of British cars. I have 247 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: probably again the finest one of three hundred and ninety 248 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: that were built, a nineteen thirty nine MGTB, not a TC, 249 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: not a TA, not but a TB in that in 250 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: that genre of British cars. I have two fantastic E Types, 251 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: two nineteen seventy four E Types, one an original one 252 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: owner car with just eighteen thousand miles. He bought it 253 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: brand new Certo Area. I also have a second owner 254 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: of owning it for thirty five years a seventy four 255 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: E type roaster with just seven thousand miles on it. 256 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: Where do these come from? 257 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 5: Bill? 258 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: You know? And when you talk about when you talk 259 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: about the collection, do you think the you know, are 260 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: some of these cars being auctioned? Has that generation reached 261 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, they're passing on or they're just they're they're 262 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, divesting themselves of some of their cars and 263 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: you know as they get older. Is yeah, back to 264 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: our original conversation. 265 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're spot on with that that 266 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: you know assumption the guys have had them, they've enjoyed them. 267 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: And to be quite frank with you, for someone like 268 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: and I'll just use the Jaguar E types for example, 269 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: finding somebody to work on a V twelve Jaguar of 270 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: vintage nineteen seventy four very difficult. Sure, those guys don't 271 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: exist anymore. And it's not even a car that you 272 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: could take to the Jaguar our dealer because even their technicians, 273 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: you know, they're they're not skilled and working or diagnosing 274 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: the issues and they don't have diagnostic tooling to be 275 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: able to diagnose what issues are with those cars. So 276 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: you know, a big part of it is is that 277 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: even even carburetors anymore, having someone that can set up 278 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: three two's, I will call it two battle carburetors. Having 279 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: someone that has the ability to synchronize those carburetors and 280 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: work with points and condensers. Those guys are all gone. 281 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: And it's the truth, it really is. 282 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: And to be frank, as you get into your sixties 283 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: and seventies, and you're used to driving that everyday driver 284 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: that you get in, you push your button, it starts, 285 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: it has power windows, the air blows cold, you know. 286 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: And then you get into your muscle car with no steering, 287 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: no brakes, and you got to be careful that you 288 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: don't flood the vehicle. 289 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 290 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: And they're difficult to drive. They were great when you 291 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 3: were twenty to thirty. 292 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: Your body, your body withstood a lot more, right, the 293 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: vibration and the and and and the harshness and uh 294 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: you know, I mean many a time I get into 295 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: one of my older cars and I'm like, really, I 296 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: drove this to college for four years. You know, how 297 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: can that be? 298 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: It doesn't exactly right. 299 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense to me. So yeah, I 300 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: get it. And then and then I guess The problem 301 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: is if you if you did drive it and you 302 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: go went somewhere with it. You know, I'll tell you what. 303 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: Let's let's pull over, take a pause. When we come back, 304 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: I'll tell you the story about what I what I 305 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: what I used to do. I've got a great seventy 306 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: two Monty Carlos story for you that you know I 307 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: couldn't do today. And I still have a seventy two 308 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Monty Carlo. But you know, it's it's the difference in 309 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: what made old cars tick then versus now, And it's 310 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: it's it's it's got some interesting it's got some interesting 311 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: analogies and parts of the story. So let's let's do that. Bill, 312 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: if you have the time, let's and I also want 313 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: to talk to you about what do you think? 314 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: You know? 315 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: If you I'm gonna give you time to think about 316 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: it over the course of the break that you know, 317 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: if there's one car people want to come and see 318 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: or look at, look through the online auction, what is 319 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 2: that vehicle? So you chew on that, Bill Windham, and 320 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm on an eating in the car doctor. 321 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: We'll both be back right after this. Don't go away. 322 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for sticking around. I'm on an eating in the 323 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: card doctor, I'm here today with window. Bill is the 324 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: a couple of hats, I think by the sounds of it. 325 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: He is the auction director for the upcoming Saratoga Motorcar 326 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: auction next weekend the twentieth and the twenty first of September. 327 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: And he's also the director. Are you the director of 328 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: the Automobile Museum, Bill or what do I am? 329 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: Not? I am not? Yeah, I am. I'm involved with 330 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: the museum. But actually my role, and just to quickly backtrack, 331 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: is the auction is the greatest revenue source, gotcha, and 332 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: the support of the museum, right, And so it is 333 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: a full time, year round job in that we raise 334 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: more funding for the nonprofit museum than any other source 335 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: that the museum has access to. 336 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: And I guess, like any museum, right, the Saratoga Automobile Museum, 337 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 2: it's your purpose that you know, what's their mission statement 338 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: so to speak, not to get corporate, but I guess 339 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: to preserve the automobile and its history and its glory 340 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: and for what it was and what it is and 341 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: what it will be. 342 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 3: That's exactly what it got exactly. 343 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, So it's the you know, the auction 344 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: that we're talking about here coming up next weekend is 345 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: obviously for a very good cause because I think you know, 346 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: you look at the automobile and what it did, uh, 347 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: you know, never not just that that the personal level, 348 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: everybody's got a great car story, you know, it's there's 349 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: that emotional attachment to it. It's it's what I think 350 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: people looking back at older cars, everybody has that remember 351 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: when and you know I remember this, and I remember that. 352 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: But it's you know, when Henry Ford created that that 353 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 2: that first car, it expanded us out of where we 354 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: were living, right, we started to spread out across the 355 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: country because we had the means to get there. And 356 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, the automobile did replace the horse on that 357 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: on that basis. So it's it's it's a pretty important 358 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: piece of how America grew, how the world grew, right, 359 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: would you agree? 360 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely? And in some cases, I know growing up as 361 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: a teenager and really you know it was you know, 362 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: it was part of your personality. The car you drove 363 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: represented the personnality. 364 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so it became that the epitome of cool, 365 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: you know. I I mean for me and I didn't 366 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: have a car in high school, I guess I wasn't cool. 367 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: But in college, you know, it was funny, right. I 368 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: could fix everybody's car, But I never had any money 369 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: to buy one. But in college I scraped together a 370 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: few bucks and I bought a seventy two Monty Carlo. 371 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's probably three or four year old car 372 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: at the time. And back then it was a used car. 373 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: It was just a It was a bunch of junk 374 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: going up and down the road. We didn't think it 375 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: would become such a classic, right, Well, I you know, 376 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: I promised you a good car story, so you know 377 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: why you could drive older cars then. So I drove 378 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: that seventy two Monta Carlo everywhere. Took it to Kentucky, 379 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: took it to Boston on a regular basis. I took 380 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: it to college. I used to go down to college 381 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: in central New Jersey. I'd have to drive through Newark, 382 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: New Jersey every day. And one day the up radiator 383 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: host failed on the Garden State Parkway and I pulled 384 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: over to the side. You know, I got out of 385 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: the car, I scaled the fence. I walked into downtown 386 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: West Orange or East Orange, I forget which one of 387 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: the oranges. I found an auto parts store, bought a hose, 388 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: went back, put on the car, and drove away. You 389 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: couldn't do that today, no, right, you know that's the 390 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: problem with an older car. You walk into you know, 391 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: the first thing they ask you in any order parts 392 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: dore you walk in is your make model? What difference 393 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: does it make? I mean back then we knew the hoses, right, 394 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: It was just you know, three hoses fit nine cars, 395 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: you know, And is that part of you know, before 396 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 2: the break we were talking about why they get rid 397 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: of a Jaguar, is that's got to be the reason 398 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: why a lot of guys get rid of some of 399 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: their cars and clean out their collection because you can't 400 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: find people to work on them, and getting parts is difficult. 401 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: Where can you go with it? 402 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: You're exactly right, you know, And just a really quick story. 403 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: You know. 404 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: I have a Jaguar and I lost a fuel pressure 405 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: regulator and there was not one available in the entire world. 406 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: And I ended up finding one in a in a 407 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: salad yard, and the gentleman loaned the salvage jars that 408 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: I can't guarantee you to work, but I have one. 409 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: I was willing to take the risk and lo and 410 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: behold it did work. But you're exactly right. Unless you 411 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: have something that was an extremely popular model in its time, 412 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: finding parts can be a real difficulty. For sure. 413 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: What would you have done, Bill, just out of curiosity 414 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: if you couldn't get that fuel pressure? 415 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I mean I searched, and I 416 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: know Jaguars inside and out, and I know everybody that 417 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: sells the parts literally in the world. There was not 418 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: a fuel pressure regulator, but you still Bosh had had 419 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: made them for some time, but they had stopped. And 420 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: it just so happens that this particular model of the 421 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: V twelve Jaguar motor was only built for one year, 422 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: so there was no carryover from a prior or engine 423 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: the V twelve afterward that use that same feel pressure regulator. 424 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: See this is not not to turn it into this conversation, 425 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: but I'll steal a minute here. This is why I 426 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: look at modern cars. You know, a new Corvette is 427 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: a stunning automobile. It really is, you know, a thousand 428 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: something horsepower the new one and all that it does. 429 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: But ten years from now, when we can't get computer chips, 430 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be a flower pod baby you know, 431 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: there's what are you going to do with it? Because 432 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 2: if you can't get parts, you can't get parts. And 433 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: I think the newer cars, with the computers and chips 434 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: and software, it becomes much more difficult. So you know, 435 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: maybe there'll be that balance, right, that older car that 436 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 2: we're talking about will always be in demand. But maybe 437 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: that Jaguar is going to get retrofitted with a newer 438 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: fuel system. 439 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, somebody will figure it out, right, you know, 440 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: sure as long as the cars, you know, remain valuable. Yep. 441 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: So so to that point, you know the value of 442 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: the cars and seeing the older cars. I want to 443 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: come to the auction next weekend, the Saratoga Motor Car auction. 444 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to come to Saratoga, New York. 445 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: I want to be involved in the auction. How do 446 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: I get involved? How do I sign up? What's the process? 447 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: Well, there's multiple ways to sign up. First, I'll say 448 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: about spectators. If you want to be a spectator, you 449 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: can come Friday or Saturday. The entrance fees is twenty 450 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: dollars or thirty dollars if you get it for a 451 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: two day ticket. And what I really promote the auction, 452 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: particularly for primarily spectators that want to experience what a 453 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 3: car auction's like. That it's also a car show. I 454 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: mean you will see a diversity of cars and values 455 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 3: that you won't see even at your local car show. 456 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: Is given the number of cars we have and again 457 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: the diversity and value. If you want to be a bidder, 458 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: it's very simple. You can go on our website Saratoga 459 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 3: Motorcar Auction dot org and you can register to bid online. 460 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: You could also register on site the auction or to preview, 461 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: which is actually Thursday, the day before the auction, and 462 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: we have three different bidding platforms. You can bid live, 463 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: you can bid online, or you can bid by phone, 464 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 3: so there's very you know, and you're by bidding live 465 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: on phone or by the internet. We are actually live 466 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: streaming the option with a very very short delay, and 467 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: we always warned bidders that use those sources to bid 468 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 3: that just be aware that there's a slight delay. But 469 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: we have very active bidding on phone bids and also 470 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: online bidding, and we all you know, we've already got 471 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: registered bidders from all over the world. 472 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: Oh I bet you do, hey bill in three minutes 473 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: or less the most unique. If if one car stands 474 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: out in your mind that's going to be auctioned off, 475 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: what do you think it is? 476 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: Oh boy, we have so many unique ones. It's hard 477 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: to choose, but I'm going to narrow it down to 478 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: two come from the same collection. The Ferrari F twelve Nardo. 479 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: It's one of four that was sold in the United States, 480 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: one of eleven it was produced. If you see and 481 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: hear this car, it's just it's unbelievable. The other car 482 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: that was in the collection that we have is a 483 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: Mercedes benz AMG which is their performance division GG Cool 484 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: Black Series, which is their super coup It's a very 485 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: limited edition but also modified by Rentech, which is the 486 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 3: premiere modifier Mercedes in the world. The car produces eleven 487 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: hundred horsepower and is a claim to be the most 488 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: powerful Mercedes benz AMG on the planet. So those are 489 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: two cars that are really attracting worldwide attention and have 490 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: a great appeal for spectators because the wildness of their appearance. 491 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: But again, there's something there for everyone. From a BMW 492 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: is always get a kick out of all the way 493 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: through the muscle cars, the brass area and into the 494 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: exotic cars. We have something there literally for everyone, and 495 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: I would encourage people to go on our website and take 496 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 3: a look and if you want to really participate and 497 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: experience what an auction is like and the pace of 498 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: an option and the excitement as well as get a 499 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: chance to see some very very valuable cars. 500 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: The BMW IETA. Is that the one that opens from 501 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: the front. 502 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: That's correct, that's the Steve. 503 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm going to show my age. That's the Steve 504 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: Rkle car from Family Matter. That's right, that's right, that's 505 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: what Steve right, Yeah, I remember that. 506 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: That's it's got three wheels, two in the front, one 507 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: in the rear. We open up the front of the car, 508 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: which contains your steering wheel and yeah, yeah. 509 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, just that was That was a crazy car. 510 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: That's going to be there. 511 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: That's being auctioned off an all original bmwst of nineteen 512 00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: fifty eight. 513 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: Wow, crazy stuff. Hey, Bill, I want to thank you 514 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: for your time. We can go to the website. What 515 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: is it again? Just give it to us one more time, 516 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: one more time. 517 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: It's all one word, Saratoga Motorcar Auction dot org and 518 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: you'll be able to if you want to register to bid, 519 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: if you want to purchase tickets to attend, and if 520 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: you want to look at the inventory, I would encourage 521 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: you to take a look. It's quite quite, quite probably 522 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: the finest inventory that knew the mid Atlantic has ever seen. 523 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, real fast. I think the 524 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: Saratoga Motor Car auction is the premier auction now in 525 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: the Northeast. And people look at Haggarty or not Haggarty, 526 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: but Hemming's and Barrett Jackson and so forth and all 527 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: the rest of the auctions that happened, and they're a 528 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: little out of reach and they're a little far away. 529 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: So if you're in the Northeast this weekend or you're traveling, 530 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, Sarahtoga is the place to be. Bill, We're 531 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: gonna do this again. Two car guys sitting yak and 532 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Man, it was a pleasure to 533 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: meet you and we're glad to have you here on 534 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: the car Doctor. You're welcome back anytime, sir. You guys 535 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: be well and good luck with the auction. 536 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, Ron, it was You're very welcome. 537 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car Doctor. We'll be back 538 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: right after this don't go away. Wasn't that a fun interview? 539 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: Running any in the Car Doctor. 540 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm back. 541 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: You know, I could talk about cars and car auctions. 542 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: It's it's so fascinating to sit there and you know, 543 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: listen to people like Bill Wyndham Saratoga Auctions, you know, 544 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: the Saratota motor car auctions. And by the way, if 545 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: you're looking forward to get out and google that Saratoona 546 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: Saratoga Saratoga Springs motor car Auctions, it's coming up next weekend. 547 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: There's just so much history there, and there's just so 548 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: much It's more than just you know, four wheels and 549 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 2: an engine that you know, you just got to look 550 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: at it and say, wow, just just a fun time. 551 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: I'd love to get up there and see it. You know, 552 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: it just sounds like a great time. Let's answer a 553 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: quick piece of email. This comes to us from Dennis 554 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: and actually this came in from the Car Doctor Contact 555 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: request file. You know, we've got that up on our website. 556 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: Contact Request. We're trying to establish a time frame Wednesday 557 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: nights doing some radio stuff where I'm going to be 558 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: recording calls, so I can you know, every once in 559 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: a while we've got to take a weekend off. We 560 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: want to have live, fresh calls in the can for us, 561 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: so we don't want to give you guys a older show. 562 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: So that's just the way we are. But if you 563 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: get out the card doctorshow dot com you look to 564 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: contact us, you can file one of these and you 565 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: never know, I may call you back. This comes to 566 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: us from Dennis in New Jersey. 567 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: Run. 568 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: I've got a two thousand and six Psion XB with 569 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty five thousand miles on it. I 570 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: purchased it at New in October two thousand and six. Recently, 571 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: the card developed an intermittent miss with codes P zero, 572 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: three oh three, and three oh four. I pulled the 573 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: plugs and found the center electrode on those plugs worn away, 574 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: while one and two had normal wear. The plugs are 575 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: a premium iridium and at fifty one thousand miles on them, 576 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: I thought they would last longer. Also, the insulators are white, 577 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: which indicates to me they're running hot. Do you have 578 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: an opinion or replace the plugs in the vehicle runs 579 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: like Newigan. I'll tell you what, Dennis. Yeah, white means 580 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: not only hot, but lean right. Those cylinders are running lean? 581 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: So do we have partially restricted injectors? A couple of 582 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: things I would do the best form of mechanical analysis 583 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: of the cylinders that you can. Obviously a crank and 584 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: compression test, A running compression test more detailed involved than 585 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: I can explain to you here. But if you google 586 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: search how to do a running compression test, I think 587 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: you'll see some good examples of it. A running compression 588 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: test actually shows the engine the cylinders operating under duress, 589 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 2: operating under compression, you know if you can do that, 590 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: And then also a cylinder leaked down test, just to 591 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: make sure that the cylinders have integrity, that there is 592 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: no leakage, there is nothing wearing, Not that we're going 593 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: to be able to do anything about it at three 594 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five thousand miles, but you know that 595 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: will give you a good indicator of what's what. And 596 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: then you know, can you go in with you have 597 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: an obed scanner? Do you have a scan tool? Can 598 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: you go in and look at fuel trim? Where is 599 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: fuel trim? Just because it hasn't set a fault code 600 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: doesn't mean we don't have a lean fuel condition, and 601 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: we can go take a look at that and then 602 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: last if it makes annically checks out, how oftener? Did 603 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: you ever do any sort of a fuel system cleaning 604 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: running some you know, some sort of a fuel system 605 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: kit cleaner through the fuel rail, clean the injectors. This 606 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: is an older vehicle, They're not what I would consider 607 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: to be non clogging injectors. A good fuel system cleaning 608 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: and a decarbonization of the top end of the engine 609 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: would do wonders for this, and it may solve that problem. 610 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: Again at this age, not a lot we're going to 611 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: do about it, even if we find something wrong, But 612 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: a little preventative maintenance such as fuel system cleaning and 613 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: just verifying compression surely can't hurt, and it can always 614 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: extend the life of the engine so much more so. 615 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: If you have any questions, Dennis, give me a call 616 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 617 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 2: and we can talk about it further in depth. I'm 618 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: running any in the car, doctor, I'll be back right 619 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: after this. Don't go away every hard way, let me 620 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: slip away. Every Let's finish this week's show this hour 621 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: by giving them a little bit of a homework assignment. 622 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: All right, let me do this. I want to challenge 623 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: you if you haven't done so already. Do you know 624 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: and brought an ny in the car doctor By the way, 625 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm back. Do you know where your spare tire is? 626 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: Do you know the shape of your spare tire is? 627 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: Is it in drivable shape? Do you do you know 628 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: where the jack is? Not that I expect you, all 629 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: of you, at least all of you to be able 630 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: to change the flat, but do you have an idea 631 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: of where the spare tire and jack are located? And 632 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: you know, if you bought a used vehicle, don't just 633 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: assume that it's there. And I know this sounds, you know, 634 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: a little over the top, but I had an incident 635 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 2: recently with somebody that came into the shop. They wanted 636 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 2: us to look at their spare. They had just purchased 637 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: the vehicle. They didn't have a spare. As a matter 638 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: of fact, they didn't have a jack either, and they 639 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 2: had it. You know, we had to purchase a jack 640 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: and a spare for them. And it made me realize 641 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: that we take too much for granted. So don't find 642 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: out like Jimmy did at the last minute, that he 643 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: was missing stuff. You know, take a look. Does your vehicle, 644 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: have a spare? Does it have the correct spare? Does 645 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 2: it look like it's the spare that'll fit on the vehicle? 646 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: You know? Does it say Ford on the rim and 647 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: you're driving a Chevrolet, that's a problem, okay, But just 648 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: a little bit of being prepared makes you a good 649 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: scout and makes you ready for the road ahead. So 650 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: you know, find out, do you have the jack, do 651 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: you know where it is? Do you have a spare? 652 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: Is it in good condition? And will it lift the vehicle? 653 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: And do what you need to do in the event 654 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: of a flat tire. I'm run an inning in the gardock, 655 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: reminding you till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 656 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: they're priceless. 657 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: See it.