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Speaker 1: What's up A slip service? A'm Angela Yee, I'm g

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Speaker 1: G Maguire, I'm Jordani Manuel.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm Scottie Rock.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Shawnty's husband AKA, I'm Sean.

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Speaker 3: See what's up?

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Speaker 2: You have to be a Shanty's husband, I mean his half,

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Speaker 2: his better half.

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Speaker 3: No, you have my better hole. I'm a whole husband,

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Speaker 3: not a half husband.

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Speaker 1: Is it? We're being like married to somebody famous and

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Speaker 1: you have to like when you introduce yourself, they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is Shawnte's husband.

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Speaker 2: I mean he is who he is. I mean, look

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Speaker 2: at him, he's all that, and you know, you just

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Speaker 2: get at first. It's exciting, you know, because I didn't

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Speaker 2: know who he was at first. Let's be totally honest.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The funny funny story, which he hates when I say,

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Speaker 2: is that when we met, he's like, so have you

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Speaker 2: googled me? And I was like why. He's like, you

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Speaker 2: should google Sean and I was like, what are you like?

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Speaker 2: Madonna googled Sean Shawnte and it came up. It's like, oh, okay, God,

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Speaker 2: So to answer your question, it's fun. There's some downfalls,

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Speaker 2: but you know it's I love him. So it's what

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Speaker 2: comes with.

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Speaker 1: The package, right, you know, it's nothing to think about

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Speaker 1: because somebody would be like, Oh, that's Gigi's boyfriend, or

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Speaker 1: that's Jordan's man, And so I wonder if guys feel

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Speaker 1: a little weird sometimes with the dynamic of being like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's S's and such as you know, the.

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Speaker 4: Thing is like, he is the reason why I get

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Speaker 4: noticed everywhere, because I'll be somewhere and they'll be like, Oh,

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Speaker 4: you're Sean T's husband. He must be around here somewhere.

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Speaker 4: He's actually just as famous as I know.

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Speaker 1: It's actually because you guys do a lot together, and

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Speaker 1: I think that is like just to see how you

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Speaker 1: guys are celebrating each other because marriage has been tough

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people lately. Yeah, and you'll have

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Speaker 1: been married for what eleven almost twelve years in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we keep seeing all these people that don't seem

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Speaker 3: We have a good time. So I will tell you this.

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Speaker 3: In the very beginning of our relationship, the one thing

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Speaker 3: we said, well, we are really great communicator communicators, and

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Speaker 3: we just have no secrets.

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Speaker 4: We're like, if we got to go to the trenches,

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Speaker 4: with honesty, like that's exactly what we're going to do,

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Speaker 4: and it just leaves you not having to guess like

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Speaker 4: what some people think or what they feel. And even

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Speaker 4: in times where you know we have knocked down drag outs,

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Speaker 4: I tell people like we have a lot of testosterone,

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Speaker 4: Like there's definitely some you know, you know, we were

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Speaker 4: both athletes.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, who gonna take this one?

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like he is

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Speaker 4: my raw to die, you know what I'm saying, and

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Speaker 4: we are one hundred percent honest with each other. There's

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Speaker 4: nothing you can tell him that I haven't already told him.

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Speaker 2: Having been in relationships where you were you're not honest,

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Speaker 2: being in a relationship where there are no secrets is

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Speaker 2: really refreshing because you can tell I can tell him anything,

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Speaker 2: or if I'm concerned about something, I'm like, Yo, don't

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Speaker 2: I'm going to we need to talk or we need

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Speaker 2: to go in the locker room is what we say,

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Speaker 4: Was a learning curve though, because I'm from Jersey and

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Speaker 4: he's from Yeah, Like he didn't want to say ship

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Speaker 3: Everything, so we had to like we did you know?

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Speaker 4: They say like there's a compromise or whatever, but it's

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Speaker 4: not so much that we compromise. It's more of like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I can learn to be calmer from him, and he

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Speaker 4: can learn to speak up for himself. So we do

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Speaker 4: we do fit like legos.

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Speaker 3: Even astrology chart will tell us that we don't need

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Speaker 2: Did you know that before or did you research?

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Speaker 1: What I learned about Jordan is she loves talking about hospital.

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Speaker 2: He'll talk to you all for like four minutes to

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Speaker 2: be like you're with this and you're this.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going did that like that? So, Scott,

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Speaker 1: you said that before having come from relationships where you

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Speaker 2: I mean I lied pretty much for thirty eight years

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Speaker 2: I wasn't comfortable. I didn't want to be gay. I

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Speaker 2: You can't be gay in play soccer or any sport really,

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Speaker 2: and so I I, yeah, I was a professional liar.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So you actually didn't let people know until you

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Speaker 2: I came out to my parents when I was thirty four,

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to say first, that's the other dynamic

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Speaker 4: between us. I came out at twenty one. My mom

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Speaker 1: And you know, how did your parents be it?

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Speaker 2: So my dad was like I knew for four years

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Speaker 2: and my mom cried for six months. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a bad situation. They were both very supportive.

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Speaker 2: are going to say, Okay, it's cool that you are

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to like fight it and fight it

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Speaker 2: and fight it. And I fought it.

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Speaker 1: That's awful for somebody to not be your friend anymore.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine that crazy?

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Speaker 5: Just want to be your truth?

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And I can say now that I am authentically myself.

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Speaker 2: that because it is I say, before I met him,

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So when you coming out at twenty one, you said

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Speaker 2: She should be here tonight.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I gotta tell you just it is

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Speaker 3: So I grew up in the church, like my grandfather

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Speaker 3: my grandfather said to my grandmother like, yo, we need

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Speaker 4: So my mom was like filling me in on all

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Speaker 3: Was like like, is George your boyfriend? And I was

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Speaker 4: She was like, who's plugging who? Because she she she's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: What did you tell her?

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Speaker 3: I said, I don't do that. I was a total

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Speaker 3: He was like, you don't need to come out.

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Speaker 3: He was like, you don't need to come out to me.

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Speaker 1: Than great A great workout series. What's that total top

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Speaker 3: Royalty? I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So now, okay, so when you guys met, you

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Speaker 3: We tell people we met in the gym because people

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Speaker 3: a dating website. It was a hookup website and that's

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Speaker 2: It was in relationships. I was in a six year relationship.

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Speaker 2: You were in into your relationship, I think, unhappy, But

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Speaker 2: for me, I keep it in this. Sorry for me.

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Speaker 2: My parents have been married for fifty some odd years,

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Speaker 2: so I just assumed that I this is the person

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be with my life. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: And then I meet him and uh, I was hooking

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Speaker 3: I was like, you not long ago.

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Speaker 2: So so then we, you know, were on this side

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you know that exactly the case it was.

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Speaker 3: It was on the detail. Yes, wait, she wanted details,

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Speaker 3: so we so on this website you can do video calls,

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Speaker 1: The person to make sure this is real, because.

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Speaker 1: Wait. Now I just realized something. He went to your apartment,

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Speaker 2: to be on the website that I was on, and

443
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Speaker 2: so I was like in front of him and I

444
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 2: talked HI about it, and he said, you know, okay,

445
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: I'll stop, and you know it's a problem. And I

446
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 2: was like, okay, great. And then a couple of weeks later,

447
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 2: maybe a month later, I'm on my computer again and

448
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,239
Speaker 2: it comes up and it's like, you haven't stopped. And

449
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: so instead of addressing the problem, like well, I'll show you,

450
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 2: and I set up an account and that's s.

451
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Speaker 1: Did y'all ever have any bad hookups from this site?

452
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 3: Yes?

453
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: What's it bad?

454
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 3: Like?

455
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: What's like? Give us some bad stories, like when things

456
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: go left? I love a bad dating.

457
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: Story, so I have one. It didn't So let me

458
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 2: get my drink. Chatting with this guy. He's like, come

459
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: on over and it's probably one in the morning. Yeah,

460
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: And so I'm in Hell's kitchen. I walked down to

461
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: the apartment. I buzz they let me in and you

462
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 2: have to turn and walk up the stairs and there's

463
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Speaker 2: a guy standing at the top of the stairs with

464
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Speaker 2: a gun and was like, what the fuck do you want?

465
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 2: And I was like, uh, I was given a bogus address,

466
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: but the guy didn't know. And the crazy thing is

467
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 2: is I was like, I know who you are. He

468
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: was an actor on TV, but a small world actor.

469
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, he's literally like, get the funk

470
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: out of here. What do you want? I was like, uh,

471
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 2: wrong address, like and like literally out.

472
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Speaker 1: That's wild. But wait, you he budged you in. That's

473
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,479
Speaker 1: what I was about to say.

474
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Speaker 2: Even I don't think that he was of mind like

475
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Speaker 2: he was. He was late, he has a gun. It's like,

476
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Speaker 2: I don't yet something else. And when a guy watched

477
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Speaker 2: the door, he.

478
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Speaker 1: Might have been waiting for that one drop off and

479
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Speaker 1: it was and it wasn't the d.

480
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Speaker 3: Yes right, it was the jump off. What about Oh

481
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Speaker 3: I don't know?

482
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 4: Like so I don't really So here's the thing, and

483
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 4: this is another separation of us. I don't really remember

484
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 4: because if I'm not into something, I just leave, like

485
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem being like this ain't it

486
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 4: for me?

487
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Speaker 3: Or I walk in and you lot about your pictures.

488
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 4: I'm like, you used to be you know, like you

489
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 4: look like this, and I'm like, I'm just not getting involved.

490
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't.

491
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, I can't really necessarily I had anything

492
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: bad that I didn't choose to stay in because I

493
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: was probably too horny to not.

494
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: But if I wasn't into it, I'm like, there was

495
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: one guy that heard you.

496
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: That's a bad thing, because I feel good and comfortable.

497
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was scary.

498
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: I said, oh no, I'm not this is I'm wrapped.

499
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 4: I'm wrapping this one up now.

500
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: Jordan's by the way, and we didn't even talk about this,

501
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: but she's on Summer House, Martha's Vineyards.

502
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, flying La whatever it was on.

503
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: I was like on the plane, yes, yeah.

504
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: So she's been through a lot of shitty relationships, so

505
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: she actually spent a year being celibate just to kind

506
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: of you to get helped.

507
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Speaker 5: I do.

508
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: I feel like it let understand that boundaries are healthy

509
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: in a way that I didn't understand before.

510
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 5: And I feel like it also.

511
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Gave me a prerequisite sheet of like, okay, are you

512
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: doing these things? Because it wasn't fun for me, and

513
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: it felt like I was just having energy physically being deposited.

514
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: That wasn't right, right, And so now I feel like

515
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm better at assessing like, Okay, is this gonna be fun?

516
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 5: Is it going to be not? And how do we

517
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 5: move forward from them?

518
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 4: So many questions like I don't know if it's the same,

519
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: but I'm so interested for your questions. So like, prior

520
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: to being celebrate, are you would you consider yourself to

521
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 4: be like a sex positive person?

522
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

523
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: Yes, So I was Playmate of the Year for Playboy,

524
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: So I've always been very comfortable in my body. There's

525
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: only been your black playmates, and you were the last one.

526
00:23:53,440 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: Was the last one? Yep, She's explanation point.

527
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 5: But I was never promiscuous. That was never my thing.

528
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: But I was just having relations with people who weren't

529
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: available to me, and it was starting to affect my

530
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: self confidence and how I looked at myself. And that's

531
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: when I think I had to take a step back

532
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: and be like, let me eliminate this for a second

533
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: and see where I'm at with me and what I

534
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: need to focus on. Because some guys are hyped to

535
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: just be like oh, you know, I'm with them exactly,

536
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: know exactly, And.

537
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: It was a lot of that, not like looking at

538
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: you as the human that you are.

539
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: Right and how like what was the spark idea? Did

540
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: you just wake up one day and we're like, you know,

541
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: I need to stop or was it something you read.

542
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: Run down for me? So I was I had just

543
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: got I had to crush on this guy. We hooked up.

544
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: It was fun, but he kind of ghosted me. And

545
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: I had been good friends with this guy for like

546
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: a year, and so I'm telling him this and I'm

547
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: feeling some type of way and I knew he was

548
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: really into me, and you know that feeling when somebody

549
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: is really into you and you're just kind of like

550
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: that's nice and whatever. But I was like, you know what,

551
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: let me see what this is hitting for. Maybe this

552
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: will make me get back in my bag. And so

553
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: we continued hooking up, and I felt like, Okay, I'm

554
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: getting a little attached, like we're kind of dating now,

555
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: complete loser, I'm talking mattress on the floor lower east

556
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: side loser.

557
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: Okay, let's be serious.

558
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: Oh we all got to do some nonpraffic work, right, Okay,

559
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: And he ended up getting back with his girlfriend, and

560
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: I was crushed and I was like, why do I

561
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: Why did I even let this happen? You're not even

562
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: on my level. And I wouldn't have done this had

563
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: I not been feeling so vulnerable and used my body

564
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: as trying to figure it out, figure it out. So

565
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: that's when I was like, you know what, let me

566
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: just cut this first. I did you go into it

567
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: with your time frame in mind, like I'm gonna go

568
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: a whole year, Well see if I can do it?

569
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: Or was it for the long haul? Originally it was

570
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be until I was in a committed relationship.

571
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: It became clear that was not going to happen and

572
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: time soon, so I was like, I'd like some dick please, right.

573
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

574
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: So after about a year and a half, I was

575
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City on a brand trip and my

576
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: college crush happened to be He's a reporter. Next he

577
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: was covering like the politics that were going on there,

578
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: and I was like this, he traveled to forty five

579
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: minutes and I know he did. We Are you honest

580
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: with him about breaking your celibacy? Yes? Yeah that prior

581
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: to yeah, he felt like you were like a virgin

582
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: like he was getting some vigiins.

583
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: I mean that was one of my questions, Like, so,

584
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: with you not doing anything for a certain period of time,

585
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: how was the thing was the first step into.

586
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 5: She was ready to She was definitely crisp, but she

587
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: was ready.

588
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

589
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 5: Yes, I was properly decated.

590
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Asked this during celibacy. Were you able to use toys? Okay,

591
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: so you could do even still it was just full penetration.

592
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: I was not okay with the.

593
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: World.

594
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: You know, shahns, didn't you do were you going to

595
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: do the dildough? And I know we had a whole conversation.

596
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so well how you know I wanted to create Well,

597
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: so with our only fans, like you know, our only

598
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: fans subscribers are like can we get dial those like

599
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: you know? And we haven't even shown up our on

600
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: on only.

601
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: Fans just part of it's part of.

602
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: It, just like what's that like a mold of.

603
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: You know that.

604
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: We haven't done it yet. We haven't done it yet.

605
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: Okay, but the other percentage will be paying you.

606
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: But I'm in the marketing.

607
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: I'm in the marketing phase. I'm building up my audience

608
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: so that I'm a builder audience. I like to like

609
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 4: really like funnel people to this one thing. And then

610
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 4: when I'm we're able to put something.

611
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: Out like I want ninety people purchasing it.

612
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Do you think are only fans you'll ever go full?

613
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: I mean, so we're not only fans. You know this

614
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: is I guess I could say it right here. We

615
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: do have a platinum like there's no literally there's no prerequisite.

616
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: There's no one knows how to get into platinum. Okay,

617
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: So there is a platinum group in our only fans,

618
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: but they but no one knows how to get in it.

619
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: You have to be invited into it, okay. So that

620
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: so they get they get better stuff than like the

621
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: v Okay.

622
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: So maybe if you're in platinum, you might see a

623
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: little extra something something give me. I only fans platinum.

624
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: So I used to be a stripper ext me too,

625
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: and so I have pulled in my house. So I

626
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: still do like pole dancing, and I do work videos

627
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: and I show these tit days all day. They thank you,

628
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: but I am not given, like here's my vagina. I've

629
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: never been a porn girl. I'm not a porn girl.

630
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, cross that line when

631
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: it comes to only fans, but I always try to

632
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: think of ways that I can give them a little

633
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: more without doing it. There you go.

634
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: The thing is it's all in the messaging and what

635
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 4: it is that you want, you know. So for us,

636
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: there are a bunch of people that subscribe to a

637
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: only fans that are like, oh, because we had you

638
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: used to have this thing called naked coffee on Instagram

639
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: and like regular social media, but then you would just

640
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: get all.

641
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 3: This backlash like I can't believe you did that. You're

642
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: showing you and I'm like, all right, cool. Only fans

643
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: comes out and we do our naked coffee pictures on

644
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: their pea, which is.

645
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Basically him drinking coffee naked.

646
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: For us, it turned into us, let me know, you

647
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: need some coffee coffee.

648
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: So and then you know, so then you have the

649
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: people who want that. But then we have a vi

650
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: P and we're people who want a little more. So yeah,

651
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: but so we have this, we have our vi P

652
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: group that gets basically like there. You know, you have

653
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Speaker 4: p p vs where you think, you know whatever, which

654
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: a lot of my p p vs are either us

655
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: in the shower or I'm doing like TikTok dances but

656
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: like naked, yeah, but our VI people get like more

657
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: intimate stuff with us, so like individual like it's a

658
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: little bit more. But the Platinum group is you're like

659
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: people are like, oh, they get it.

660
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: They're like we made it, thank you so much.

661
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: So you just like surprised them, like, hey, you're platinum.

662
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Speaker 3: Platinum. It's a process that they don't even know that

663
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: they're going through that they get in there because it's

664
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: all of us.

665
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: It's all based around trust because we don't want our leaking, right.

666
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: So the people who are in this group, like you

667
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: already know, and most of them and this is like

668
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: not not all of them, but there are a lot

669
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: of them that are like CEOs closeted men that are

670
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: like you know, they're not they're not going to share

671
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 4: it because they.

672
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: Don't even want people to know that they're in there. Yes,

673
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: And that's it's really or like really like gay guys

674
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: that just like they're invested and they've been a part

675
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: of our only fans like since the beginning, you know,

676
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: and they're just like, you know, I chat with them

677
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: every day. So there's like different protocols.

678
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: And ways you can how this all started was because

679
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: during the pandemic, we were sitting home on Friday night.

680
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: I was like, baby balls, we should entertain people because

681
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: they're not doing anything and they're you know, they're going

682
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: to social media. So we came up, well, I came

683
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: up with an idea of like just having a wine

684
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: night where we you know, have wine and just talk

685
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: and people would come. And went from three hundred people

686
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: to five hundred people to a thousand people to like,

687
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: we're watching us on Friday nights just have wine and

688
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: talk about a relationship with friends.

689
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: At first, it is very p G. We have a

690
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: couple of line. One Friday, I had to put.

691
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: That show people how to like numb your butthole so

692
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: that you can be a better bottom.

693
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: And that's when it just went to the next level.

694
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: So then everybody, because you know, I've never been able

695
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: to do that, I don't know, like okay, so.

696
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: I actually could teach a class, like a sex ad class,

697
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: and it would be beneficial.

698
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: I would like to be able to make use of

699
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: all my holes.

700
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: That's exactly.

701
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: From commercial.

702
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: Jordan, what about you.

703
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: I'm not into butt stuff.

704
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 1: Neither am I, but I'm saying maybe it's something amazing.

705
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: We need to unlock it might be like I've given

706
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: it a try, but I constantly just feel very like

707
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to ship myself.

708
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: What do you do beforehand?

709
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: See, that's why you gave people to teach you how

710
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: to like if you're fully prepared, Yeah.

711
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: And you have the right lube and they're playing with

712
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: your clid while it's happening, like you get this the

713
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: stimulation that is like you know, and it's it's and

714
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: this comes from somebody, you know, my mom asked me.

715
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: I was like, hell, no, I ain't doing that and.

716
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: Here you are. How was it the first time you

717
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: did it that you were.

718
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: I hated it?

719
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: This is this?

720
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: How but there's like this there's a trust factor to

721
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: like because a lot of people like especially I would

722
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: say especially straight guys, they're they just think it's another

723
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: whole that's you know, and it's it has to be used.

724
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: Different than your vaginanta.

725
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: It has to be like massaged in there, and there's

726
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: a way to loosen it up in this whole thing,

727
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: and there has to be like I said, stimulation, Like

728
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: for me, you have to be stimulating my dick if you're.

729
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: I need to be distracted a distraction.

730
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: You edged me, and I'm like, you're you have whatever

731
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: you want.

732
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: A relaxation thing to like, you have to have like.

733
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: Getting the senses fired up. And if all the senses

734
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: are firing, it's like what what? When?

735
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: Where?

736
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: How?

737
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 4: You can't be with somebody that likes raving this sex.

738
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: You have to be with somebody that they see you

739
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: and they just want to.

740
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Tear you up, like they don't kills because she will die? Yes, don't, yeah,

741
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: just don't do it. But all right, So Scott, when

742
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: you guys first hooked up, were you so you were

743
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: already about him or were you both tops?

744
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Or I was? I guess top verse.

745
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Okay, and so ditious I was, Yeah, So yeah, it

746
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: was just it was a matter you know, when you

747
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: feel the emotional connection, you will pretty much do anything

748
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: to be and feel that person.

749
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: And so it just turned into kind of a mutual

750
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: thing for both of us, so because it's a tense

751
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: and it's amazing to share that moment with someone anyway, right, So,

752
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: but it's a lot.

753
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting quite an education year.

754
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 4: I'm a very good first time I'm a very good

755
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: first time top for somebody whose first time body.

756
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I'm so good.

757
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: At like walking through it.

758
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: Let me walk you through this, so good at it.

759
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this that you have a

760
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: dating all of y'all mix, do you ever is it

761
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: monogamous that you ever bring other people in the mix?

762
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

763
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: We bring people in okay.

764
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we have a god, we have good And

765
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: it was me like it was we were two years

766
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: into our relationship. I'm like, look, and this is where

767
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 4: most people like clutch their pearls or gas. I'm like, listen,

768
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: your dick is my favorite, like emotionally, like I'm with you.

769
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: I've never had a problem getting a boner if he

770
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: just touched me or wanted to shut it down. But

771
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, you can't be the last dick I suck

772
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: ever ever, especially.

773
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: If you'll be together for like the next fifty years.

774
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm like yo, And I was like, plus, I need practice,

775
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: like you know. And he wasn't fine with it at

776
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: first because he was just you could.

777
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: Tell why, I'm just a traditional white guy from Seattle.

778
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: So you know, again, my parents together for so long,

779
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: and so you just have this thing that you're not

780
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: supposed to do that because it's what because I've been taught,

781
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: our society whatever, and so you know, there's questions of well,

782
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: am I enough or you know, you know what doing

783
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Let's talk about and so we did. I remember him

784
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: talking about it for the first time. We were in

785
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: my parents' house in Phoenix, and it was like, okay,

786
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, but he made some also some really good points,

787
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: like you're walking down the street in the city, you

788
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: see someone that's attractive, like you you see people all

789
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: the time, and it's okay, you're right. So it's like,

790
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: it's okay to acknowledge it, and it's okay to talk

791
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: to me about it because let's talk about it. Let's

792
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: explore that and then you know, moving that direction if

793
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: we want to.

794
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: So what's the rule? Because question only if it's you

795
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: guys as a couple something can you do stuff that's

796
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: too much going on? But can you do stuff without

797
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: each other? Like had it? Okay? Yeah, it's like an

798
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: open relationships again.

799
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: It's it's you know, we said we have no secrets.

800
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: It's like you just have to tell me what you're doing.

801
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: I always have to get the address just in case.

802
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: And then you know, and there's something very erotic about

803
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: him coming home and telling me what happened or you know,

804
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: because then it gets us excited that we do it

805
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: again when we do.

806
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: It, like we come home and like you know, if

807
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 4: the person that's his film, like you know, the person

808
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: a blowjob.

809
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: Does they ever go from you gotta watch this, you

810
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: gotta try this.

811
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: We pretty much have done everything.

812
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: We've done it all I.

813
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: Done. Is this part of the Platinum Perks Persons service?

814
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: I know we have.

815
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: We have had one guy offer us eighty thousand dollars

816
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: to just eat our asses.

817
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 5: Wow, he is gonna eat your asses.

818
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound bad.

819
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: It's not a bad deal.

820
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: That is the most expensive groceries ever. Yeah, listen, eight.

821
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: Cake decide said I'll do anything to get to the bad.

822
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: You ain't got to do nothing else and the.

823
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: Cash up No, yeah, but yeah listen. It never went through, however,

824
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 4: I was definitely considering it.

825
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: I want to ask y'all this for the ladies in

826
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: the room. Can you imagine being in a relationship with somebody,

827
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: could you watch them have sex with someone else, like

828
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: on camera, on film and then be like let's try that,

829
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: or like perform in voyeurism. Okay, oh you want to Yeah,

830
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I like to watch it. I've never tried it though,

831
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: but I imagine, like fantasy wise, I feel like i'd

832
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: be into it.

833
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say to your point and to the

834
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: point because you know, obviously there's a lot.

835
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: Of people like, oh my god, like that's not a

836
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: relationship you can't do.

837
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: But I'm just like, I this is how to look

838
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: at it. And it sounds so crazy to a lot

839
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: of people. I'm like, I have sex with him, like

840
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: I'm always with him, and yeah, we can film ourselves whatever,

841
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: but live porn with the hottest person. I'm like, yo,

842
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: I'm sitting back literally enjoying. I'm like, this is so

843
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: incredibly hot. And the one the most reason why is

844
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: because we're very secure with each other, right, you know.

845
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 4: You know, And I say this to people, it's like

846
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: people like, oh, but he could run off, and like

847
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: what if he meets somebody. I'm like, he can do

848
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: that at the grocery store. He could, Like you just

849
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: you never know if your person's ever going to leave you, really,

850
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: but you have to, like my tattoos say, you have.

851
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: To trust and believe, and there's no one out there

852
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: better for other one of you.

853
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: It's literally I'm like please, Yeah, I love it.

854
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: I feel like the people who say that too are

855
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: just people who've never experienced real honesty and intimacy with someone.

856
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's straight true because when I was when I was,

857
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 4: when I was traveling around, when I was a choreographer

858
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: and I would go to different cities, you know how

859
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: many straight men at the bar of a hotel would

860
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: be hitting on me like, yeah, that.

861
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: We are really straight man.

862
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: I married because, like you know, and it's not even

863
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: that all of them were gay.

864
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: They were, they were bisexual. They wanted to try it,

865
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: but it's just not allowed because it's looked down upon them.

866
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: Like life is so much better.

867
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this thing to be a race.

868
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: I think you feel like things are better many of

869
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: them out there.

870
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, when kids are coming out like twelve or I

871
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: think that they're moving in the right direction. Hopefully they'll

872
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: continue in that direction. Who knows where it'll lead to,

873
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: But I think it's I think it's better because I mean,

874
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: there was nothing on TV when I was a kid

875
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: growing up. Reverse athletes, two women tennis players came out

876
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: as gay, and it was like bad, bad, bad, you know,

877
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: So it's like now it's like when someone comes out,

878
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: it's a support thing.

879
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me ask you this so shanty when

880
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: you came on the show and you talked about your

881
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: stepfather and people were in the comments were like, do

882
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: you think that's why he's gay? And I saw a

883
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: lot of people saying that in the comments, and I

884
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: know you went to like a you know you've been

885
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: going to therapy and working things out. What do you

886
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: respond when people say something like that.

887
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: I mean, my first thing is like, doesn't matter, Like

888
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm happy now you know what I'm saying. But I

889
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: would say the majority of gay men that I know

890
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 4: knew from from the earliest years.

891
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 3: I think.

892
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 4: I so, I've always been attracted to men, but I

893
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: have been with women, and there have when I was

894
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 4: a teenager, you know, I was rock hard with women,

895
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: but I still wanted men. I think I was like,

896
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 4: and I don't know if I would consider myself bisexual

897
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: at that.

898
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: Time, but I'm like, it made my dick feel good, So.

899
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: I like that that sounds bisexual.

900
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: Like even even till like this day, like if I'm

901
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: at like, I've had men be like, hey, can you

902
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: fuck me in front of my wife or whatever? And

903
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, what does she look like?

904
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Is she just gonna watch

905
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 4: because I find it hot? I'm like, yeah, you know,

906
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: you know, would I fool around with her?

907
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. It just depends one you know, I'm

908
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: not one of those. I'm not there. And I know

909
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 3: a lot of gay guys it's like, you know, they

910
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: just have no interest.

911
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 4: It's like a lot of straight people have no interest in,

912
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: you know, the opposite the same sex. But me, I'm

913
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: just I'm very sex positive and I rarely say no

914
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: to anything that's not dangerous, Okay when it comes to like.

915
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, when we talked, I didn't even

916
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: think about that, but then I saw a bunch of

917
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: people saying that, and I was like, but.

918
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: To answer your question, I'm gonna go through that a

919
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 3: little more.

920
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: It's it's it's very disrespectful to actually assume that because

921
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: someone was molested, even if you mean it, like if

922
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: you're just interested. It's like, don't take something terrible to

923
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: happen to me and try to place my current life.

924
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: About like and naked about that.

925
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: Because I did a lot of work to overcome that,

926
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: I'm not thinking about that, right, But if I had

927
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 4: to give a hard answer, No, bitch.

928
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: Was debate with the X of mine when we were

929
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: together about you know, are you born gay? Do you

930
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: turn gay? Can you be turn gay? Can things influence

931
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: you to be gay? And I technically I'm bisexual. I

932
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: love men. I only want to touch on women. I

933
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: don't want to be with one. But I've been touching

934
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: on koochie since I was nine ten years old, so

935
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: it's like nothing made me want to do that besides

936
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: the fact that I wanted to do it, and I

937
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: as feel like with women it's more encouraged. Yeah, I

938
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: would say.

939
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: That it's funny, right because men would be like, oh yeah,

940
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: I want to see two girls with go, But like

941
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: for me, like to your point, it's also just having

942
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: that discussion like where you weren't born like that, like

943
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: something happened to you. And I'm sure you've heard this before.

944
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well.

945
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 4: If I if you're telling me I chose to be gay,

946
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: that I mean you at the club and you want

947
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: to subject too, You're just saying I don't want to

948
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: do it. That's basically what you're saying. Because if I

949
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 4: have the choice and that means you have the choice, and.

950
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: That was our argument. Yeah, And you know, the other

951
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: thing is there are a lot of people who have

952
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: unfortunately been molested and they didn't all become gay from

953
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: it exactly.

954
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: You know.

955
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: So that's why I didn't believe. I didn't even think

956
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: about it. But honestly, a lot of people said it

957
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: in the comments, and that's why I was like, well,

958
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: I would love for you to answer that, because it

959
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: was something and just like, it's so crazy with the

960
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: community being so well respected and so well acknowledged these days,

961
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard for straight men, I'm gonna say,

962
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: to really just go with the flow of things, right.

963
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,479
Speaker 1: And in that conversation that I was having with him,

964
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: he was really hell bent on the things that are

965
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: on TV, and they're putting it in the children's face

966
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: and they're making the children want to be gay. And

967
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Andy, don't minds you fucking with women?

968
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: Well I wasn't at the time, because he yeah, we

969
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: didn't experience, but.

970
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: I knew I was gay very very young.

971
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: Three.

972
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: I just remember I wanted this neighborhood kid to climb

973
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 2: through my window like Rapunzel or something else. How many

974
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: years did I see straight TV read straight books that

975
00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: it didn't.

976
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: Turn me straight.

977
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: I had sex with women, but I would I wanted

978
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 2: to de fire that I felt when I was with guys.

979
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: So it was like also with straight men.

980
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: You know, I don't like to like generalize, but I'm

981
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 4: going to use straight men for this instance. Like even

982
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 4: when you're in the locker room, they're like, I don't

983
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: want no guys. I'm like, just because I'm gay, why

984
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 4: do you think I want to give you? When women,

985
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: when women call me a waste of a man because

986
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: I'm gay, I'm like, I don't want to funk you anyway.

987
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean? Like everybody that just

988
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: because I'm gay, like I'm looking at you as a

989
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: guy or vice for I'm like, y'all, it's so, you know,

990
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: in my experience, a lot of the people who have

991
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: this hard stance against gay they are hiding something.

992
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone's in the closet about something.

993
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 3: Everybody's in a clause about something, you know, So it's.

994
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: Just kind of sexuality, right something something? What am I

995
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: in the closet about?

996
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: Story?

997
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: If we're all in the classet about class about I

998
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: don't even know how to answer that.

999
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1000
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: It might be.

1001
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Jesus at the class. You're in the closet about something.

1002
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 5: It might be the butt stuff. Maybe I'm let me

1003
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: tell you.

1004
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1005
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this, but I've learned not to

1006
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: interrupt because I have had it. Right, the girl, anal

1007
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: orgasm is the best orgasm I've ever had in my life. Okay,

1008
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: se whatever, and I have had a lot of organs. Okay, okay,

1009
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: because it's just a technique.

1010
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: It's the right person.

1011
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1012
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: Are you?

1013
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever I'm squirted neither her mine. Yeah, but

1014
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: I've had orgasms. I just never squirted. Yeah, same, No,

1015
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: No juice is flying girl. Yes, I am a squirter,

1016
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: but I will say this. I was with the same

1017
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: man for a leve than plus years and he never

1018
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: made me squirre. I was with somebody else and he

1019
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: made me square the very first time. You think it's

1020
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: the angle of his it's the penis and it's what

1021
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: he does with it. And this, this guy that made

1022
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: me square all of these gazillion times, it's like a

1023
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: record breaking amount of times. And this may square nineteen

1024
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: times in the twenty four hour period. And then twenty

1025
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: five times, twenty five times twenty four hour period, how

1026
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: are you were in the twenty five period, So like

1027
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: last night, today and tonight in the twenty four listen point,

1028
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: it got a point where he would literally just put

1029
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: figures in. Yeah, it was crazy, back to back us.

1030
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: He's a magician. So like was his dick, Like it

1031
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest that I ever had, but it was in.

1032
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: A certain way.

1033
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: Knew he knew that he literally learned my body the

1034
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: very first time, Like he like loved me my body

1035
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: the very first time he had X. He's how amazing

1036
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: he's You think most guys aren't like that. They don't

1037
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: learn your body, they don't pay attention. I think they're

1038
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: intimidated by the Jeta. They don't don't take the time,

1039
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: you know. I think porn makes guys think that certain

1040
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: things is what works, is the biggest, Like don't I say,

1041
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: don't watch it, don't watch it. I don't believe it.

1042
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: Don't think that that is like your educational.

1043
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: These young boys, Like when I see them, I'm like,

1044
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 3: it's like that is not how you fuck. Like that's

1045
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: not how you do it. You know, that's not how

1046
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: you give a job.

1047
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I will say, I do watch a lot of gay porn,

1048
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: and I'll be looking for techniques.

1049
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: You called me, I'll give you a good tech.

1050
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: It's not the last dick you suck. So that's I

1051
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: come to. I come to New York every two weeks.

1052
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: The film live in Arizona, so you know Arizona.

1053
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 5: I'll come in.

1054
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: So why I'm always curious why you would want women

1055
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: in general watch gay porn.

1056
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: It turns me on. I don't know why, but so

1057
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: my porn goes lesbian porn, gay porn. I don't watch

1058
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: streight porn.

1059
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: Why not? I don't.

1060
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to look at

1061
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: the penis until it's going in my mouth or and

1062
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: I think dick pics. I don't want. I don't want

1063
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: my man to call me with his dick in the

1064
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: face time. I don't want to see it unil I'm

1065
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: about to use it. I think some people like poorn

1066
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: that's taboo, like in that point that you can't do,

1067
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: because I also like trans like we're not like friends

1068
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: of gender porn like that that we can't do.

1069
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 3: Porn is is kind of hot female.

1070
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: When the female has a penis.

1071
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: And she's female.

1072
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 4: When the female has like, it's a transition, transitions from

1073
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 4: a female to a male. So now he has I like,

1074
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 4: this is vagina. Yeah, it's it's it's really intense.

1075
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: How important is dick size when it comes to who

1076
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: you hook up with?

1077
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: Well, I don't want no big old dicken knee, So

1078
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm cool. I'm cool with a good six. I'm like,

1079
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: I can enjoy it. But this one got a good

1080
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: eight and a half. And I'm like, but I'm like,

1081
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 4: that's painful exactly. That's why it took me so long

1082
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: to want to do it.

1083
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: But you should have a little.

1084
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know what was I talking about.

1085
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: About?

1086
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: Plus lay when he's in his top you know horn?

1087
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh, let me ask you all this aside from everything else,

1088
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: you guys are also, you know, in an interracial relationship. Now,

1089
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: how is that? Was there ever any issues or any

1090
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: reservations about that?

1091
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: No one has ever said any anything to me about it,

1092
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 4: and they probably know better.

1093
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm you know, I have dated black guys in

1094
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: the past, and I don't ever remember experiencing anything I

1095
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: did Latin guys in the past in person.

1096
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm in person. No one's ever said it to me,

1097
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: but you know online of course.

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00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: It's actually a few weeks ago there was just like

1099
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: a huge thing because we went to this retreat that

1100
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: wasn't our retreat. We just ended up going to a

1101
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: retreat and it was like mostly white guys there, and

1102
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, he wanted to be the only digger

1103
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: in the room, and like this, that and the third,

1104
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 4: like they just automatically jumping conclusions that it was my

1105
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: retreat and I invited all white guys and I'm like, yeah,

1106
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm like it's you know, that's the one thing about

1107
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 4: the gay black community that's really annoying is like it's

1108
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: like if you're a black guy that dates a white

1109
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 4: guy or married to a white guy, they automatically assume

1110
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: that you're a sellout.

1111
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, you just meant it's like you're dick. Yeah,

1112
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: you don't know.

1113
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: You don't know how many black guys I've been with,

1114
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: or how many Latin guys I've been with, how many

1115
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: Middle Eastern guys I've been with. You only you only

1116
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: say that because you see the person that I'm married to.

1117
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, right, you know, maybe I

1118
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: should put out a video so I can shut them up.

1119
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: You hear, you hear a lot, you see a lot

1120
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: on you know, the news or whatever about how people

1121
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: hate on interracial relationships. I am. I think that I

1122
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: have been very lucky that we have been very lucky

1123
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: that we haven't experienced that yet. But I think it's

1124
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: also you know, we have six year old boys and

1125
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: we have one that looks white er and you have

1126
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: one that looks black, and you know it'll be both black.

1127
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 2: So but it's it'll be interesting to see how society

1128
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: treats them.

1129
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 3: I just started to introduce that to them.

1130
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: Because you guys were donors for separately for each one, right,

1131
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: is that how it worked?

1132
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: So we have one split we.

1133
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: Took like it's like if you gave us your eggs,

1134
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 4: we took two of your eggs.

1135
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: He fertilized one.

1136
00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: Because listen, I love that like designer babies. That right,

1137
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: by the way, that's amazing, Like I think that was

1138
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: the best way for that to be able to happen.

1139
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 4: That's awesome, thank you, it's you know, it makes it's

1140
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 4: so it's amazing because it's a way for them. It's

1141
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: like our families connected because we're inter racial and even

1142
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 4: though Sander is like I made him, and the egg

1143
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: donor is black, but she also is like, I think,

1144
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 4: like twenty five or thirty percent German. So it's like

1145
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 4: like it's a big mix, you know, in our house,

1146
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 4: and it just flows and it works.

1147
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: I remember the day when Sean was like, so you know,

1148
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: it took us five years and twelve tries, two doctors,

1149
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: six egg donors, five whatever is good though, And I remember,

1150
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: you know, you reach a point in each of this

1151
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: process where you're like, we can't go anymore with this,

1152
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: so you have to start over, and you're literally starting over.

1153
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: And so we start over, and we start over, and

1154
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: I remember this last time, he's like, I'm going to

1155
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: find our egg donor and he I remember specifically him

1156
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: sitting down and going on the computer and finding us.

1157
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna find her today.

1158
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: And he sure. I mean it could take people months

1159
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: to find someone that both of us agree on. He's like,

1160
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: I found her, and I was like, oh wow, Like that's.

1161
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: I was like. I was like, I was like, we're

1162
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: gonna have it. We're gonna have a baby with this woman.

1163
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 4: And the reason why it's like more of like that

1164
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: this is probably a little deeper than we need to go.

1165
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: But you know, when you go on to egg on

1166
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: a website, it's like online dating. You get there, they

1167
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: have to show pictures of when they were kids, and

1168
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: you get a picture like they have to show a

1169
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: certain amount of pictures and then they do this long

1170
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: right up as to why they're doing it.

1171
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: You get their family history, to health history, the whole thing.

1172
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: But all of them have an alias. So let's just

1173
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 4: say one of them was like Angela, but her real

1174
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: name is Sean, right, Like, this woman was like had

1175
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 4: her alias is Angela, but then she introduced herself like, hey,

1176
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: I'm Sean and and immediately was like this person doesn't

1177
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 4: want to lie that too, using her because like everyone else,

1178
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: like they they introduced themselves there.

1179
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Really is right.

1180
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: And what she said she was going to do with

1181
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: the money, this she actually she ended up doing it,

1182
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: and it was so cool to like see, well, I

1183
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 4: don't know if I want to say the.

1184
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: Whole pot all her was it? Really The whole process

1185
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: was expensive though, right, being that you guys over a half.

1186
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 3: A million dollars.

1187
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm so glad it happened for you guys though.

1188
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, But it was again. I just also

1189
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: there's so many milestones, and during it happened where the

1190
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: very first meeting in January twenty thirteen, the doctor sits

1191
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 2: us down, is like, you know, this may not follow

1192
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: the path that you think it's going to, you know,

1193
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: might take a little longer than you think. And I

1194
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: was like, who the fuck is this guy think he is?

1195
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: Like I got good spurm, he's got good spurm, we

1196
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: got good eggs. This will be one and done, two

1197
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: and done. And then sure enough, you know, miscarriage didn't work.

1198
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: Another miscarriage didn't work. You know, problem with this, this, this,

1199
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: And you're like wow, like this is takeing forever and

1200
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: we're at ground zero again. We're at ground zero again.

1201
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: What do we do?

1202
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm so happy? And it makes you think about maternal

1203
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: health care and like just all of that and how

1204
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: difficult it is for women, you know. And lastly, because

1205
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: I know we have to get out of here, but

1206
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys about I know, about

1207
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: working together, you know, and being a couple, but spending

1208
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: a lot of time together, being in love but also

1209
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: working together. How is that making that transition? Of course

1210
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: we know you have your underwear line. You know what

1211
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Well.

1212
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. So obviously, prior to having kids, we.

1213
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: Pretty much spent all day together and we are literally

1214
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: best friends, Like we just are you know what I'm saying,

1215
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 4: and every way possible.

1216
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: Uh, working together is interesting.

1217
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, there's definitely some tough moments because you want

1218
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: to shut off work or there's like work conflict and

1219
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 4: you have to like work through that. But for the

1220
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: most part, like, we don't work together like I have

1221
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 4: like an amazing executive assistant who is like my external

1222
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: hard drive, right, and we have other employees that are

1223
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: like they work so hard and I work mostly with

1224
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: them and he deals with contracts and money. There is

1225
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: overlap obviously, but I think we don't we don't necessarily

1226
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: work together and a very any.

1227
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: Intense even though he's more my manager. It's kind of

1228
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: hard to explain, but you can give it them this name.

1229
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: So I think two things I think about when spouse's

1230
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: r family worked together. Before I met Sean, I was

1231
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: working for my parents and they had an education consulting company,

1232
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: so I had some history in working with family, but

1233
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: I the one There was two things that I one

1234
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: thing I learned from him was like, you have to

1235
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: establish parameters. Yes, And I remember because when he when

1236
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: we were first together, I would be up until two

1237
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: am and he's sleeping on my couch and he gets

1238
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: up at five because he's just on the go, and

1239
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: I sleep until ten. He's like, we need to change

1240
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: this because if we continue this, we're not going to

1241
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: see each other. And so he's like, let's try and

1242
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: work from nine to five and when it comes we

1243
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: turn our phones off or whatever. And so establishing those

1244
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: rules or parameters is essential. So that was really good.

1245
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: And the other thing was, Oh, when we have something

1246
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: to talk to each other about, it's like we need

1247
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: to go and we we have a precursor, which is

1248
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: we need to go in the locker room. We need

1249
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: to I need to talk to you as my husband,

1250
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: or I need to talk to you as my boss,

1251
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: I need to talk to you as my.

1252
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: Coworker, my best friend. Right, you know, we have preference.

1253
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, bay Balls, we're talking about work, and I need

1254
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: you to be like a work colleague for this.

1255
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: Pele, I'm gonna tell you why he calls by the way.

1256
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, times, I think it's important establishing those parameters so

1257
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: that people understand.

1258
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: Well, you know, like the great reason why we call

1259
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: each other bayballs is because, like you ever hear somebody

1260
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: say holy fuck balls or something like that. So we

1261
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 4: always said, whenever you add balls at the end of

1262
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 4: a word, it makes its exponentially amazing.

1263
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: So instead of calling each other baby be call each

1264
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: other bayballs.

1265
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: An amazing All right, well, listen, you guys, make sure

1266
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm so into this, like, I love it. I loved

1267
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: our conversation. I told them before you guys came, I

1268
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: was like, they'll talk about everything anything like complete open books.

1269
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: So we always appreciate that.

1270
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, transparency. We are. I'm a

1271
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: big believer in you know.

1272
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 4: You have to live your life for you because I

1273
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: don't know if I'm gonna be here tomorrow and I'm

1274
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: gonna I want to have a good ass time. And

1275
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 4: we respect people. We change people's lives every day. But like,

1276
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: especially coming on the show like this, there'll be a

1277
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 4: lot of people like damn, like I know that about

1278
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: Sean t and Scott, But I'm like, you don't know

1279
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 4: a lot about anybody that you see online. You see,

1280
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: you literally probably know three percent of that.

1281
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: We know that we want to get our abs like

1282
00:59:51,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: yours the going out and give me fifty.

1283
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 3: This work.

1284
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: But no, honestly, I appreciate you guys so much and

1285
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: we definitely will follow up like we want to make

1286
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: sure we keep our relationship. Guys so much fun. I

1287
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: loved having you on way Up and I loved having

1288
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: you here and we talked about you so much. Scott.

1289
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: It's great to meet you in person.

1290
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: I will say that, you know, he came into your

1291
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: show way up and I was like, I saw this

1292
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: interview and I was like, this is the best fucking

1293
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: interview I've ever seen anyone do with Sean. The questions

1294
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: you asked, the the the intent that it just was.

1295
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: It literally felt like you were authentically wanting to know

1296
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: more about this person. And I know you do it

1297
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: on the regular, but I don't know if it's just

1298
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: your gift, but I was like, I was telling everyone,

1299
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: you have to watch this interview. It was so brilliant.

1300
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: So thank you for.

1301
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's great and even interviewing somebody, but

1302
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: having somebody who's great to interview, who actually talks and

1303
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: is open that helps so much when it's time to

1304
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: like move the conversation, elevate the conversation. So I appreciate

1305
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: you both today for being here. And of course, you know,

1306
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: I love my girls. The lady Jordan has been guest

1307
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: hosting all way up, so she actually had a degree

1308
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: in journalism. Don't play with her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to school for radio team definitely today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Originally I switched over, and so I tell him every

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Speaker 3: time I get to do these type of shows and

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Speaker 3: interviews and even my podcast, I'm like, it's because it's

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Speaker 3: it's I.

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Speaker 1: Love it and I haven't bring this podcast back.

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Speaker 3: What's that? Oh yeah, my podcast? Yees?

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Speaker 4: So transformation we've so I just kind of changed the

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Speaker 4: structure of it. But yeah, I've already shot two seasons

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Speaker 4: of it. Okay, So we're just like in a post

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Speaker 4: production partner. I want to I'm on a radio show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: I can see it, Okay. And GJ is actually gonna

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Speaker 1: be at Essence also representing Philippins. So this will actually

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Speaker 1: be my first time being on the Red carpet as

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Speaker 1: an interviewer. I've been on a few reds interviewing me,

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Speaker 1: but I will be on site correspondence for Lip Service

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Speaker 1: Festival in New Orleans, New Orleans July.

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Speaker 5: Spoken there July weekend.

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Speaker 1: So this is the first time I'll actually be working, essence,

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Speaker 1: and she's narrating the Magic City movie. So, Magic City

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Speaker 1: has a documentary that has been picked up by a

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Speaker 1: major network. Can't say who it is yet, but it's

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Speaker 1: executive produced by Jermaine Dupree and Drake's Dream Crew production

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Speaker 1: company as well as Jamie Gertz. She owns The Hawks

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Speaker 1: with her husband. City is really involved, I narrate. I

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Speaker 1: am like the start of the show. It was a

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Speaker 1: three part documentary and I I am beyond stoked. I

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Speaker 1: saw the first episode we did south By Southwest and

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Speaker 1: we premiered the first episode there and so I was

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Speaker 1: like teased a little bit with a little bit of it,

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Speaker 1: but I can't wait to see the d I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for.

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Speaker 5: The world to see it for real.

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Speaker 1: To give everybody in this room, there you guys, survey