1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Well, China's Communist Party Congress next month, we'll set the 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: stage for a possible overhaul of the country's top economic roles. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Joining us to discuss this, Tom Hancock Bloomberg, China Economy Reporter. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: So the biggest reshuffle in potentially a decade, and this 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: comes amid these worsening growth risks in China and as 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: we're continuing to see COVID zero play with the lockdown 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: of chain do. Tom. Yeah, So we've got the Communist 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Party Congress date now fixed for the middle of October, 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: and we're expected to see see Jimping stay on as 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Communist Party chief for another five years, but below him, 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: basically the entire economic team is going to start a 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: shift that begins with the Congress when people's role in 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: the Communist Party changes, and ends next year early next 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: year the National People's Congress, when people's government roles are 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: rubber stamped by that congress. Um. So we've really got 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: a range of people stepping down according to the usual 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: retirement ages. The too key to watch for our Leoch 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: who has been in Sedon Ping's right hand man and 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: economies are and also Leka Chiang, who has been the 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Premier obviously kind of a weakened premier, but still influential 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: in economic policy. No surprise. Experts are saying the replacements 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: need experience and loyalty to SHE. But I guess how 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: are they going to deal with some of these huge 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: problems you're seeing in the economy, not only the COVID downturn, 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: the property market downturn, and also youth unemployment at this record. Yeah, 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: they will be having a huge amount of difficult issues 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: on their plate as they take on these roles. We 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: should also mentioned that it's likely egan Um, who is 29 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: the Central Bank governor, will also be gone by by March, 30 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: and from what we seeing, his replacements and the other 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: replacements who are people are talking about are all the 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: people who are very experienced economic policymakers. They've been working 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: in very senior positions for a long time, so I 34 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect any big policy shifts from them straight away. 35 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: But there are people who have worked closely with SEE 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: for decades, and there's there are some signs that loyalty 37 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: to SEE is becoming a bit more important. And academic qualifications, 38 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: because we've really had a time where academics, including the 39 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: Gang have been running economic policy, and so we could 40 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: see maybe more political influence. And I think that you know, 41 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: what Siege and ping Um usually does is still delegate 42 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: a lot of the economic policy implementation and details to 43 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: these officials, So they're going to play an important role 44 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: as well. Tommy, your crystal wall probably as good as mine. 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: But there is a lot of speculation that perhaps after 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: this congress we could see an easing of some of 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: these COVID zero curbs. Is at what you're kind of 48 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: hearing from people in the No, Yeah, I mean the 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: latest prediction is from Nomura, you know, saying that they 50 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: think it will the policy will continue, you know, past 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: the National People's Congress next year. Um, you know, it's 52 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: really anyone's guess. But you know, I still believe that 53 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: the policy won't last forever. China is looking for some 54 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of transition, but it doesn't it doesn't seem to 55 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: be on the cards in the in the near term. Um, 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, there will be something to maybe watch for 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in the second half of next year and maybe there'll 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: be some sort of um, you know, gradual easy of 59 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: how lockdowns are done. So we need to watch for 60 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: that closely, all right, tom Thanks as always Tom Hancock, 61 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg China Economy Reporter, with US in Hong Kong