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Speaker 2: Let's get this, punies.

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Speaker 2: You need to be a warrior, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Now Here comes Michelle Pfeiffer out of left field, talking

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Speaker 1: about just get in class and write this paper.

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Speaker 3: Please let me tell you about Edgar Allan Poele love

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Speaker 3: not war Damn damn.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: She did cocin and and scarface though she wasn't doing

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Speaker 1: the crack, you know what I mean? So I understand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she wouldn't have been able to relate to

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Speaker 1: by me, lean on me, lean on me. Yeah, she

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to relate to him because she'd

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Speaker 1: have been looking at him like, man, what are you

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Speaker 1: doing that, she.

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Speaker 2: Would have said said the same things as doctor Clark.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Crack crack is whack. By

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Speaker 2: the way, we are try some of this this tousy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we.

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Speaker 4: Do have I know, uh we've mentioned this wasn't on

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Speaker 4: the rundown here LeVar, but we do have our first

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Speaker 4: guest of the day, alberber is going to be joining

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Speaker 4: us in our three of the program.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to welcome in.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in the man himself, Principal Joe Clark, for some

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Speaker 4: thoughts on just uh schools and uh just the behavior

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Speaker 4: of certain kids who backed up in the cafeteria.

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Speaker 2: Let me have your.

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Speaker 5: Attention, everyone climbed out. I want all radios off, instantaneously,

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Speaker 5: all radios off. I want all of you to look

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Speaker 5: at this slovenly sloppy boy here as an example of

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Speaker 5: how not to dress. When you look in your mirrors

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Speaker 5: in the morning, find something else to put off.

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Speaker 2: You imagine.

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Speaker 1: Hate everybody, Stop all radios off instantaneously.

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Speaker 3: My god, you imagine a principal fat shame like that,

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Speaker 3: this lovely slappy.

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Speaker 2: Boy and he attacking the boy's wardrobe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kid's got some britannious and a yellow shirt on.

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Speaker 4: Looks like he rolled around and Mustard Dan his principal

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Speaker 4: just fatted him out in front of all of the

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Speaker 4: school in cafeteria. Uh here was Here's a little more

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Speaker 4: from our first guest of the day, Princeville Joe Clark,

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Speaker 4: with some words of wisdom for anybody that's thinking about

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Speaker 4: getting into a little bit of that uh that funny stuff.

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Speaker 5: Go on, dump, No, I don't want to jump, yess

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Speaker 5: you do. Just smoke crack, don't you You smoke crack.

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Speaker 2: Don't you look at me more? Don't just smoke crack? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: what a job.

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Speaker 3: To God in my hip?

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Speaker 4: You mentioned if my son came home from school, was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: how was school today?

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Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I had a little running with the principal.

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 4: Well, so he fashimed me and told me to jump

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Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, give that guy a raise.

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Speaker 2: Both more than enough to make a kid end it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that could be a feint of heart.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so that's a real school movie. That's a real

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Speaker 1: I had run to him with the principal today, Well,

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Speaker 1: why didn't he tell you to jump?

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Speaker 2: Well? I can't tell you. I don't want to tell you.

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Speaker 4: Dad, you mentioned that, you mentioned though embarrassing that must

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Speaker 4: have been. You're sitting in the cafeteria and the principal

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Speaker 2: This slovenly slavey Moore to the entire the entire student body.

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Speaker 3: You won't get one day the rest of your time

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Speaker 1: You are instantly getting bullied. Soon as he lets them

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Speaker 2: Oh man, there you go.

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Speaker 3: The good old days.

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Speaker 2: Days. Love me some.

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Speaker 4: Joe Clark, all right, that's the way. Not too long ago, huh,

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Speaker 4: Morgan Freeman. No, the Joe Clark, Oh, the original Joe Clark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's.

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Speaker 1: Like been like, I mean, I think it's over a

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Speaker 3: Well, hey, hell of a movie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's set the tone. I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my desperate times called for desperate measures.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna call my son that later on.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, would you would you stop being

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Speaker 3: Say?

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Speaker 2: Boy? All right?

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Speaker 4: So it is two pros and a cup of Joe

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Speaker 4: here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox with you.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: So look, man, I don't know how you feel about this,

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Speaker 4: but I got me some fatigue, all right.

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Speaker 3: I got some real fatigue, like army.

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Speaker 4: Fatigue, No like college football playoff fatigue.

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Speaker 2: Tired fatigue.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Day, the head coach of the Ohio State Buck Guys,

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Speaker 4: speaking of Albert Breer and Ohio State alum loves his

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Speaker 4: Buck Guys. Ryan Day was talking with ESPN, and you know,

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Speaker 4: he's got some thoughts because you've got all these commissioners

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Speaker 4: Big Ten teaming up, and everybody who's got disagreements on

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Speaker 4: what the college football playoff format is going to look like,

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Speaker 4: whether or not, you know, certain automatic qualifiers are going

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Speaker 4: to be involved from each conference.

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Speaker 3: Who should get more?

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Speaker 4: And so Ryan Day spoke with ESPN and said, quote,

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Speaker 4: we're in the Big Ten, we have eighteen teams, some

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Speaker 4: of the best programs in the country. I feel like

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Speaker 4: we deserve at least four automatic qualifiers. You would have

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Speaker 4: had at least a team or two in the College

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Speaker 4: football playoff from out there, referring to the original PAC twelve.

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Speaker 4: So it only makes sense when you have eighteen teams,

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Speaker 4: four automatic qualifiers for the Big Ten. So I just

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Speaker 4: it to look like? Whoever you can, we just get

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Speaker 3: Because it feels like it's playing out through the media.

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Speaker 4: It feels like you've got you know, brett yor Mark,

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Speaker 4: You've got Greg saying you like, all these people are

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Speaker 4: get it, the revenue, the power, everything that comes along

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Speaker 4: with it. I just want to know what it's going to,

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Speaker 4: what it's going to be, and then we go from there.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think they have to know what it's going

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Speaker 1: to be before it can be what it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's the very problem of it all

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Speaker 1: think that's the biggest challenge. I think the points that

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Speaker 1: of sense. I was just doing an interview with Kei

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Speaker 2: Good interview with him yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I always say, while Rashaan Salaam is,

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Speaker 1: should have won the nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 3: Four high He's mean, key, John Carter's not in the

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Speaker 2: No, no, he's not.

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Speaker 1: And he basically says like when he missed like think

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Speaker 1: that is Kijana played against Michigan that year, very very

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine that?

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Speaker 3: Ice bro?

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Speaker 1: People ask me it is is Sakwuon Barkley the greatest

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Speaker 1: hard pressed to say that any one of them was

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Speaker 1: the Carter who went, by the way number one overall

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Speaker 4: So salom had that year, just to just for reference,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so if.

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Speaker 1: You do if you do the math on that, if

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Speaker 2: Guys got a lot of got a lot.

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Speaker 1: So how that applies to what Ryan Day is saying

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Speaker 1: and what the dilemma is that exist here? The SEC

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Speaker 4: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 4: All right, it's the season of giving here, so we

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Speaker 4: here on FSR. So you and I talked about this

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Speaker 6: your long term health, just because you've had multiple concussions,

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00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 6: and people wondering how durable you are and how long.

444
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: You could withstand this but your head too? Are you

445
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: worried about yourself?

446
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not.

447
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm good.

448
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 8: I'm past that point. I'm really moving on. So I'm

449
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 8: just focused on playing ball. You know, I'm really clear

450
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 8: at man, and you know under I'm really good.

451
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: So were there.

452
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 6: People telling you, hey, you might want to think about

453
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 6: I don't know, our word retirement or something like that,

454
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 6: like just how serious these have been?

455
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: Was that a conversation at all?

456
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: Nah?

457
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 8: No, No, not with no one, especially not myself now

458
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 8: with my parents. Like I feel like if my parents

459
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 8: say something is deep. So if it had come for

460
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 8: nom or come for me, I'm good, I was. No.

461
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: I didn't hear it, to be honest.

462
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: So that was a bear safe du to Kwambrisker returning

463
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: back from a concussion that caused of miss the final

464
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: twelve games of last year, the third of his career,

465
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: in his third year, and I would just wonder this

466
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: same thing we were wondering about Tuatukobailoa. The likelihood of

467
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: him going the rest of his career without another concussion

468
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: seems low like it seems it seems low. So what

469
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: do you do if it happens again? Like, if it

470
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 4: happens again, do you just hey, as long as he

471
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 4: goes through the process, and like you can't help but

472
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 4: wonder and have the conversation, much like TUA, about if

473
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: this is going to happen again, how do we proceed?

474
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: And it feels like one of these uncomfortable conversations in

475
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: the NFL that maybe no one wants to just acknowledge,

476
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 4: which is, you know what you're signing up for. And

477
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 4: in my mind, if the player is good with it

478
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 4: and he clears whatever protocol there is out there, you

479
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: gotta let him go. I just feel like there's going

480
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 4: to be outside voices that are going to get involved

481
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: that are don't want to speak on behalf of the

482
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: people that aren't actually are on the field going through

483
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Speaker 4: this entire process.

484
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Speaker 1: It's a tough conversation to have because in the end,

485
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, the reality of it is is that if

486
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: he does continue to have indeed have those concussions, what

487
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: it truly represents, and it does represent the R word,

488
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: it does represent having to go in a different direction

489
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: with what it is that you know what your original

490
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: plan is you don't want to have any indecision as

491
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: a player going into these situations. So for him to

492
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: have the mindset that he has, the way that he's responding,

493
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, it is the right response

494
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: because you can't half way at playing the position that

495
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: he plays, because then that could ultimately lead to him,

496
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, sustaining a different type of injury. I will say,

497
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: he's got to figure out how to keep his head

498
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: out of the contact zones. So there needs to be

499
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: a level of adjustment for him, Jonas in terms of

500
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: how he approaches tackling. As you mentioned, he is a thumper,

501
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: he's a he's a tall, he's a bigger type of receiver,

502
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me safety, and he'll come downhill and

503
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: he'll hit you like a linebacker would like he had.

504
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: He brings force. And when you you're that type of player,

505
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: and we mentioned Mark Carrier earlier, when you're that type

506
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: of player, you get dinged up. Mark Carrier got dinged up,

507
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott got dinged up.

508
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 2: You know.

509
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you name some of the bigger hitters. I mean,

510
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: Sean Taylor might be the only one I didn't see

511
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: get dinged up when he was knocking.

512
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: People's souls out of their bodies. But he's going to

513
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: have to.

514
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Jaquan is going to have to figure out a different

515
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: approach because he is very close to being in that

516
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: danger zone of having to take take a serious inventory.

517
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: On what he's supposed to do next. I'm no way

518
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: around that.

519
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: And I just if you're already here at this point,

520
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: like I don't, it almost feels like you're too far

521
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: down the road of it not having to be not

522
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: only a concern, but the conversation at least coming out

523
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: like if you're the Bears. Because look, Jaquan Briskers when

524
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: he's on the fields a good player. Think he's a

525
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 4: really good player. He's a difference maker. And you know

526
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 4: he was second round pick. This is a big year

527
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 4: for him. It's his fourth year. He's gonna want to

528
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 4: look to get an extension or get a payday if

529
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: it's not in Chicago somewhere else. And you mentioned, look,

530
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 4: it's his style of play. He even talked about it

531
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: like he's just going to continue to play the way

532
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: that he plays.

533
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: But if the way that he.

534
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: Plays means you're averaging a concussion every single year and

535
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: the most recent one caused you to miss twelve games.

536
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: I just don't know.

537
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: What the expectation is other than yeah, it's probably gonna

538
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: happen again, Like it's probably gonna have this.

539
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: It's hard to come. It's hard to have as an organization.

540
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: It's hard to have a comfort and confidence in extending

541
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: him without there being a whole lot of a whole

542
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: lot of contingencies in the in the contract right, like

543
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: there has to be protection over the organization making a

544
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: financial commitment to him, knowing what the circumstances are, whether

545
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: he sustains enough one or not. It just has to

546
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: be understood that there's a strong possibility he's a concussion

547
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: away from not being available to you ever.

548
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: Again because we had mentioned this when the two of

549
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: concussions popped up as he was going through him, and

550
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: it's like you almost you almost not cringe, but when

551
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: you watch to a play or take a hit, you're

552
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: almost going, oh, boy is this. But he's a quarterback

553
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: and there are possibilities for to to be able to

554
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: avoid a hit like that. I don't know how Jakwan

555
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: Brisker avoids this, Like he plays in a contact zone

556
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: all game, Like I just don't. And you're almost watching

557
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: him as he goes in to make a play on

558
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: a ball or make a play on a ball carrier

559
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: or lay the lumber.

560
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: Again, and you're just kind of boy, is he going

561
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: to get up? Is he going to be?

562
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay?

563
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 4: He got up last time and he didn't feel it

564
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: until later on that night. It just feels like, if

565
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: you're already at the point to where you're having those

566
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: questions concerns, is it too late.

567
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't have the answers to that. I just know

568
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: that you have to be cognizant of it. You have

569
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: to be totally totally aware of these situations because the

570
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: long term damage that you're doing to yourself is not

571
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: worth whatever it is that you're trying to do in

572
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, in the present time, it's just not so.

573
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: While I don't have the I'm obviously not qualified to

574
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: speak on it from the scientific or medical aspect of it.

575
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: As a player, as a former player and someone who

576
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: played that style of football where it was very physical

577
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: and you made contact, you got to take it into

578
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: consideration if they're coming too far or excuse me, too

579
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: close and too frequent with what you have going on

580
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: and every time you hit somebody, it's you're getting shook

581
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: loose and and you're having those symptoms.

582
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: It's just not long term. It's just for me.

583
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: I just don't see how you can take the chance

584
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: of impacting yourself further than what you already had.

585
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: How many did you have in your career?

586
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: You no, I would.

587
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: I would that I that I knew I had, like

588
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: had them and knew I had it.

589
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: Because there was the one in lambeau Field right where

590
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 3: you hit your head.

591
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have my head off the turf. Definitely got

592
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: one there.

593
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: I got one against Philadelphia my rookie year when I

594
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: hit Brian Mitchell. I tell that story a lot. Tim

595
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: By Akabatuca neat me in my head. That was one.

596
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: What's that three right there? I believe I had like

597
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: four logged concussions during my entire career.

598
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: Now four At what point or did you you find

599
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: yourself after a concussion You're like, all right, I got

600
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: to change the way I play.

601
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you that's the scary part of it.

602
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Because it's kind of what he is, like, this is

603
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: who he is.

604
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: Well, if your mentality is that of I'm a warrior,

605
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm a thumpers. That's what's a part of what I do. Then, Yeah,

606
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: but you can still do that and not bang your

607
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: head up. You really can. I mean there are ways,

608
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: Like for me when I got I didn't get concussions

609
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: based off of the way I hit, Like the one,

610
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: the one concussion that when I hit Brian Mitchell. I mean,

611
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: that's just law of physics. Like I'm coming down Phiel

612
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: one hundred miles per hour. He gets the ball and

613
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: he's starting up Phield and he hadn't quite got the

614
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: one hundred miles per hour yet, but he was running.

615
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: Full close to full speed and I.

616
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: Collided with him and my you know, I hit him

617
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: in a way where my head took the brunt of

618
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: the you know, the contact that might have been the

619
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: only one. The tim biaka Patuca one, he need me

620
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: in my head like I was in the hole going

621
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: to make the tackle. He was running and his knees

622
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: were going up and they need me in the side

623
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: of my head. Boom. That's not you know, you can't

624
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: do anything about that. The one in lambeau Field, I

625
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: hit Brett Farv. Bruce Smith hits him at the same time,

626
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: so we're colliding and I fall off of Brett and

627
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: hit my head the back of my head off of

628
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Lambeau Field. It was so cold that day that when

629
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I hit my head off of it just gave me

630
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: a concussion.

631
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: So it wasn't even like the things that I did.

632
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 9: Tackling freak occurrences on yes, yeah, yeah, I mean so

633
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 9: there's no real way you can get out of And

634
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 9: that's why when people talk about can too avoid it

635
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 9: or now we're talking about Jakwan Brisker, it's hard.

636
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Like when you understand it that way and you're out there,

637
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to ever be able to guarantee whatever it

638
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: is adjustments you're going to make, whether it be your equipment,

639
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: whether it be the way you play. It's hard to

640
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: avoid things that can happen, like like concussions in full

641
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: contact sports.

642
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: And there's also the element, as we touched on, that

643
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: he's going to play the way he plays, that he

644
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: knows how to play and you can try and adjust.

645
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: You see it him boxing sometimes remember Arturro Gotti, one

646
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 4: of the greats. Artural Gotti's one of the most entertaining fighters. Yeah,

647
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: because he would be in these firefights with guys and

648
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: there was a point to where he was like, Okay,

649
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: I gotta be smarter about how I engage. I gotta,

650
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: you know, use my defense a little bit. I've got

651
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: the skill set to do this. I can't just go

652
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 4: out there with reckless abandon and then you'd get hit

653
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: one time and be like.

654
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: F it, let's go get it.

655
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's just it's just who he was and

656
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: that's why people loved him.

657
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: Brain got shook, luc bro I used to do Fight

658
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: Night in DC with under Armour every year. And let

659
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: me tell you something. The boxers they I would say,

660
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: they got it the worst out of everybody. Broyep.

661
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: Like when you see the.

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Speaker 2: Up, you know. I see that. I see it a

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Speaker 1: The older older football players, Like the older generation, they

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Speaker 1: over them as as more recent players. So you'll see

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Speaker 1: some older players man, and it's it be sad, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. And technology is so much different now as well.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, you know, but I wish

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Speaker 1: I'm all the best I know Jakwan, love them to death.

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Speaker 1: Super awesome dude, super dope dude, plays the game the

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Speaker 1: hope that he is very, very aware and very mindful

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Speaker 1: which I believe he will.

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Speaker 4: of next now a little over ten minutes from now,

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Speaker 4: you again a little over ten minutes from now. Right now, though,

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Speaker 2: This is the Larry Bird Trophy. It goes to the

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Speaker 2: MVP of the Eastern Conference Finals and that MVP.

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Speaker 10: Oh oh, hold on wo Pascal huh come home sak.

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Speaker 2: So let me u.

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Speaker 3: Let me just go ahead and take a gander here

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Speaker 3: at at the end.

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Speaker 2: What's your take?

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Speaker 3: I'm just I want to see. Based on.

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Speaker 4: Draft Kings, okay, shake Gilders, Alexander is the overwhelming favorite

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Speaker 4: to be MVP of the NBA Finals. He's a minus

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Speaker 4: six hundred, which is preposterous, but that's the feeling a

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Speaker 4: lot of people have that. Okay, so he's gonna run

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Speaker 4: away with this thing, Pascal Siak. I'm sitting there at

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Speaker 4: sixteen to one, all right, sixteen to one. If you

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Speaker 4: think he's going to continue continue his rise, but as

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Speaker 4: you pointed out, maybe Tyrese Haliburton's got a little red

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Speaker 4: ass over.

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Speaker 2: He might.

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Speaker 3: So he's sitting there, be all about.

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Speaker 1: Self right now. You will not do that to me again.

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Speaker 1: There will be no mistakes to be made.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so we will. We'll get to see how

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Speaker 4: the soul plays out. It starts with Game one in

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Speaker 4: the NBA Finals coming up later on the Night to

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Speaker 4: Night