1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Hey brain Stuff, Lauren vog obam here. If you travel 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: or used to, you know how much of an inconvenience 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: it is to have to remember to adjust your watch 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: and the clock on your laptop to reflect the local 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: time at your destination, and then remember to switch it 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: back when you return. Or maybe you've missed an appointment 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: for a telephone conference with somebody in a distant city 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: because you've forgot that nine am in Chicago is seven 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: am in Los Angeles and ten am in New York. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: Either way, time zones, which are supposed to keep our 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: clocks consistent with solar time wherever we are on the planet, 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: can really be a pain when you're traveling across multiple 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: time zones or communicating with someone who's in a distant place. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: It's strange to think that time zones were invented as 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: a way of reducing confusion rather than causing it. And 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: since solar time varies as you move even a short 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: distance from one spot to another across the planet, for 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: most of human history, the time of a varied everywhere. 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: We spoke with Steve Hankey, a professor of applied economics, 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He explained time was 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: only measured by placement of the sun, so the sun 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: dial dictated what time it was, so noon in London, 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: for example, came ten minutes earlier than noon and Bristol, 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: which is a hundred and twenty miles or a little 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: under two hundred kilometers to the west. Even after people 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: started using mechanical clocks in Europe at the thirteen hundreds, 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: the inconsistencies persisted, but confusion about the exact time wasn't 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: a huge problem until the eighteen hundreds, when railroad trains 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: started making it possible to quickly travel from one place 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: to the next. All of a sudden, Hanky said people 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: were missing trains and you began to have near misses 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: and train collisions occurring. In the US, every city had 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: a different time standard. You had three hundred local time 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: zones in the US. The railroads eventually condensed it down 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: to a hundred. Finally, a Scottish born engineer, Sir Sanford Fleming, 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: ms to train in Ireland in eighteen seventy six due 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: to a mistake in a printed timetable, and he decided 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: to fix things. Fleming devised a system in which the 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: world was divided into twenty four time zones spaced at 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: roughly fifteen degree intervals across the planet. Eventually the world 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: adopted Fleming system, in which time was based not on 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: the local solar day, but upon how many time zones 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: separated a location from the Royal Greenwich Observatory in the UK, 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: where Greenwich Meantime or GMT, was determined by the average 46 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: time of day when the sun passed over the prime 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: meridian at Greenwich. Most people already used c charts which 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: designated Greenwich as the prime meridian or longitude zero degrees. 49 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,279 Speaker 1: This is the line that divides the eastern and western hemispheres. 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: On November three, which became known as the Day of 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: two Noons, railroads in North America converted to a system 52 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: of just four time zones, Eastern time, Central time, Mountain time, 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: and Pacific time. Many cities passed ordinances adopting the system 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: as well, and eventually it became the standard across the US. 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Using GMT as a starting point forestalled any competition between 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: different U S cities for the honor of being the 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: prime meridian. But even with fewer time variations, time confusion 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: again arose as a problem in the twentieth century. The 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: advent of air travel compressed distances even more, and the 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: rise of the Internet and mobile devices enabled instantaneous communication 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: between people all over the planet and gave us the 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: seven culture, in which we're tightly interconnected to events in 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: distant places. That's why a few years ago Hanky and 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: his colleague Richard con Henry, JOHNS Hopkins University professor of 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: physics and Astronomy, proposed an even simpler solution. They want 66 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: to do away with time zones completely and put the 67 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: entire world on Universal Time or UTC, under their system. 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: When it's nine clock in one place, it's nine o'clock 69 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: everywhere on the planet, even if it's morning in one 70 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: place and evening in another. In addition to making it 71 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: easier to adjust to travel, having one time across the 72 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: planet would make it easier for people who need to, say, 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: set up conference calls with groups of individuals scattered from 74 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: Montana to Germany, which Hanky, who's the supervisory board chairman 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: of a Dutch company, sometimes has to do. Henry said 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: via email. Endless confusion would be gone forever. Life will 77 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: be simpler, abolishing time zones might also eliminate the negative 78 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: health effects from sleep deprivation that affect people who live 79 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: on the western edge of time zones, which is totally 80 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: a thing. Since Hanky and Henry proposed abolishing time zones 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: in others have supported the idea as well, and to 82 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: a certain extent, a switch to universal time already has 83 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: taken place. Pilots and air traffic controllers in the US, 84 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: for example, rely on Universal time, or Zulu time as 85 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: they call it. Financial traders who's dealings sometimes cross borders 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: as well as time zones, stamp transactions in Universal time 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: as well to make sure that the pricing is correct, 88 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: and the Internet essentially runs on universal time. Some might 89 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: wonder if a switch to universal time would alter the 90 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: rhythm of people's daily schedules, but Hanky doesn't think so. 91 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: He said, people say, oh, if we went to universal time, 92 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: that would mean would be opening businesses when it's dark outside. No, 93 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: your business would go like it does now with the 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: sun in New York or Baltimore. If you open normally 95 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: at nine am, that would be four or two pm 96 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: on your watch. It might take some getting used to, 97 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: but Hanky thinks that within a generation children who grew 98 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: up with universal time would no longer associate, say, seven 99 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: am with breakfast time or nine am with starting work, 100 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: and the switch is not unheard of. Henry said China 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: currently has this problem and that it has one time 102 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: zone for a huge swath of East West real estate, 103 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: but it's totally cured by having local decisions as to 104 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: opening closing times for businesses and so on that would 105 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: obviously be essential for a worldwide system. Today's episode was 106 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: written by Patrick J. Kaiger and produced by Tyler Clang. 107 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: For more on this and months of other timely topics, 108 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: visit how Stuff Works dot com. Brain Stuff is production 109 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio or more podcasts. 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