1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: and she couldn't. She cleaned and cared for her children 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: and the man of the house, and of course she 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: didn't talk back. She was both obedient and soft by nature. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: She was a good woman who always made good choices. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: We're good Mom's bad choices. Two single mom who said 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: fuck the patriarchy, shared all their bad choices and sound 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: out they were so bad. After all, we're experts. 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: Overshares and your new besties. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 4: Sit back and enjoy the ride. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: I can do it. 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: I'm Erica and I'm Mila. 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 4: Happy hop Day, bitches. 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, y'all? What to do? It's the last Wednesday 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: of August and then we're in our last quarter of 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: the year. 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 4: How are you feeling? I feel good. I'm looking forward 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: to fall. It's been hot as fuck all summer. Hot 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: here hot in Costa Rica. Got back, there's a heat wave, 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: and yeah, I know, mommy needs a motherfucking break, because 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: mom has been mommy all mother fucking summer. Besides, when 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: Iri went to summer camp and maybe went on a 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: short trip with her dad, I've pretty much had iri 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: all summer and I'm obsessed with my child. I want 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: nothing more than to be with her all the time, truly, 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: But then also I know when I need. I'm getting 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: to the point where it's like I know that I 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: need a little bit of a break just to be 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: Erica for a second. And maybe school year will help 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: with that. 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it certainly will, because we have that guaranteed, 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, eight to ten hours, five days a week, 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: which is. 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: A blessing, I know. But you know what, when it 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: is the school year, those eight to ten hours for 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: like four hours maybe like yeah, it's like you drop 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: them off and then you're like back there. 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: It's true. I'm always like it's over already. 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm like, whatever that thing is. It's 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: like making summer days shorter or spending on its access 43 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: at a maximum speed. This year, I needed to do 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: the reverse during the during the fall. 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: It does. 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: I mean, this summer went by really fast. 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: I know, we traveled a lot, and so it was 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: like back to back trips, which kind of sped it 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: up a lot. 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: But and also like doing. 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: A retreat while the kids are in Costa Rica, it 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: hits different there's a level of like it's like mom 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: times one hundred, because you're caring for people, you're caring 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: for your kid. There's no time off, even the days 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: where we're like on I mean we're on property the 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: whole time, but like the days when we're done with 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: the retreat, the kids are like bride eyed and bushy 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: tailed and like, let's watch a movie, you know, and 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, twenty four to nine momming. So yeah, 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: and your mom was on this retreat. So that's even 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: a different level of care. How is that? 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 4: What are you telling? It was good? It was good, 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: but I am I'm tired. I feel like I feel 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: like between the three retreats we did this summer, because 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: we did three couples retreat, two women's retreat, and I 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 4: feel like I retreated my mom after the retreat, a 67 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: bitch is fucking burnt out. My healing powers or need 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: to be recharged. Okay, I need to fucking I need 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: a healing like plug in activator, not plug in. I 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: feel like the magic from my fingertips like it's like 71 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: it's like they're starting to like sizzles. So all the 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: reiki I did and all the fucking but short. 73 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: There's a short you need to plug short. 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: It just like, yeah, I really need a healer, starter pack, 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: charging power or something. It was good I realized between well, 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: yesterday is really when I realized this. Well, actually I 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: know this about myself, but it was it was reactivated yesterday. 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: We had a barbecue at my mom's house. But going 79 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: back to your question about how I was my mom 80 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: at the retreat, my whole goal was today not have expectations, 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: be not let my mommy pleasing take over. And I 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: did a pretty good job. But obviously it's not about pleasing, 83 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: because I think we want to take care of our mothers. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: I want to make we want to make sure our 85 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: mothers are comfortable. But for me, it's deeper than that. 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: It's like I want to make my mom proud. I 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: want to make sure like she understands why I love 88 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 4: this place so much. I want her to like see 89 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: me as like in this space that I'm in, and 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: like respect it and respect me. I want her to 91 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: talk to the group, you know, I want her to 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: integrate because I know she needs it too, Like I 93 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: know that she needs it, and I think like coming 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: on this her coming on this experience allowed me to 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: kind of be in that role of caretaker for her, 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: and I knew I was taking on that role and 97 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: I was happy to do it, and I'm happy to 98 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: do it, but I'm tired. I'm tired, you know. Like 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: I realized in this retreat space too. With my mom, 100 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: it's like like our moms are just girls, you know, 101 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: and like baby girls. Yeah, specific and there were like 102 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: moments that, you know, I thought that she would be 103 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: able to engage better. Specifically in one moment moment in 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: our workshop, we have an eye gazing moment, and I 105 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: was really surprised at how challenging that was for her 106 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: with me, you know. And then I also realized that 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: I've probably never stared at my mom in her eyes 108 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: for more than maybe ten seconds. So we're asking, you know, 109 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: the ladies to stare in their paired partner's eyes for 110 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 4: sixty seconds, which is not even that long. But when 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: I was there with her, because I paired myself with her, 112 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: I was like, I've done this so many times that 113 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: I like the gazing. I love it, you know, and 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: so I was ready. I was like, oh my god, 115 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: finally I get to daze in my mom's ass, and 116 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 4: you know, it was emotional for me, not like I 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: started crying and she was like, why are you crying? 118 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: And I was like, because I love you? What the fuck? 119 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: And I could just see how challenging it was for 120 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: her to remain like keep engaged with me, Like she 121 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: kept kind of looking away, and It's like, wow, Like, 122 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: not only I do this work with women, but like 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: I realized how much work our parents need need as 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: well from us. And I was thinking about that too. Actually, 125 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: we had we have follow up calls with our attendees 126 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: after the retreat to check in, and one of them, 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: she's a therapist, so she was like therapizing me. I'm like, bitch, 128 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 4: I'm I'm supposed to check it with you. She was like, 129 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 4: how was your mom? How did it feel with having 130 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: your mom? This was like Ruth from week one, So 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: my mom came week two and yeah, I mean I 132 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: think it was. It was really interesting to see the 133 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: places where my mom I think has never got the 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: chance to really expand in there, never got the chance 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: to really even sit in and enjoy. Like I was thinking, 136 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: like probably the last time I stared at my mom 137 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: for sixty seconds was like when I was a baby 138 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: like looking up at her and her looking at me, 139 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: and there's like no nothing, there's it's just a blank slate, 140 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: you know. And now this is not a blank slate. 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: This is thirty seven years of raising me and all 142 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: types of shit. And yeah, it was. It was beautiful. 143 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: What I was going to say is like I realized 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: this work is so important for mother daughters, Like I 145 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: really I'm excited for you to have your mom come 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: on the retreat one day and so that you under 147 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: you can like experience this too and see like the 148 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: like the places where you see your mom is just 149 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: a girl, Like damn, you're like a little girl right here. 150 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: And it was it was a lot emotionally. I think 151 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: I'm still processing. I feel like I'm gonna cry right now. 152 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: Like I think I'm still processing it. 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: It's a lot. And and you know, I realize, I 154 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: mean just by observing you in the thing, like I 155 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: know that it was a big deal for her to come. 156 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I can only imagine it's a very intimate 157 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: space and we do it all the time, but to 158 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,239 Speaker 2: have your mom there, it's like a level of intimacy 159 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: that sometimes it's easier to be intimate with people that 160 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: you don't know, and it's really interesting to see how 161 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: stagnant and how challenging it is even in this work 162 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: to do it with people that are close to us. 163 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: And I mean, like we always say this, and I'm 164 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: happy that we set the bar this way. Is like, yes, 165 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: we're facilitating, but I wouldn't say that we are masters 166 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: at this. You know, we're often experiencing the retreat. We're 167 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: every time we're experiencing the retreat as we're facilitating it, 168 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: and we're expanding and we're growing. And you know, even 169 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: sometimes me and Erica as like as me and you 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: will have issues, not even issues. It's easier to facilitate 171 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: the medicine than sometimes taking it. 172 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: And so it's true, there's. 173 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: Always going to be there's all like, especially when you 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: step into this space, like spirit is always going to 175 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: invite you to expand more and more and more and more, 176 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: and it's hard because you're like, fuck, I have an 177 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: idente enough And I thought about that a lot while 178 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: I was there, like how would my mom be in 179 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: this space? How would I be in this space? And 180 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'm really grateful. I think my mom has 181 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: done a lot of work in the last two years 182 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: that you know, I have to acknowledge, you know, and 183 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's more work to do, like we're all 184 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: still growing. So I'm really excited to get her there. 185 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: But it's also interesting observing your mom in this space 186 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: because I can also see her, you know, obviously she's 187 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: your mom, but I also see her like when i'm 188 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 2: you know, obviously when we have groups, we're observing the 189 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: group too. We're observing how people are opening up, if 190 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: they're taking the medicine, if they're like open to it, 191 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: if they're more closed off. And I saw too, And 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: it's interesting to be best friends with you and spend 193 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: this much time with you. Obviously, I've never been on 194 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: a trip with your mom or you guys together, so 195 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: it's it is. It was interesting to observe her in 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: the space because there's parts of her that I can 197 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: There's that I can see parts of you more clearly 198 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: because I'm just seeing her in a closed space and 199 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: an intimate space. And you know, I was facilitating that 200 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: that portion when you guys were holding hands and you know, 201 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: leaning in because everybody's blindfolded, so I can like listen 202 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: to answers and like oversee it, and I can see 203 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: too where she was like a little bit resistant, a 204 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: little bit like not closed off, but guarded. And I 205 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: think that's normal. You know a lot of people come 206 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: that way. I'm that way and in certain situations, so 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: I understand it. But to see her, I mean, probably 208 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: in her mind it's like not put on the spot, 209 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: but kind of because you're here now and I'm staring 210 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: in your eyes, mom, and I'm asking you deep in 211 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: personal questions and we're getting deep. And I think that we, 212 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: like our parents come from a generation that that was 213 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: the norm. 214 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: Their parents didn't do it with them. 215 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: There's no like they're like, okay, all right, that's enough 216 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: deep shit, like let's carry on, you know. And so 217 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: we both come from families that way in a certain capacity, 218 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: and we are doing work and initiating a type of 219 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: work that is not necessarily the norm. And sometimes, like 220 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: I think, parents will try to make you feel crazy, 221 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: like you're so cheesy and like woo woo, so that 222 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: it's another form of avoiding deepening the intimacy and deepening 223 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: the connection. And so it was interesting to see her 224 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: like slowly drop down into it and you know, just 225 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: be in the space and observe it and like just 226 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: kind of get into it without out having this idea 227 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: of whatever she thought was happening prior to actually experiencing it. 228 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: It's funny because you might wanna blow your nose, baby. 229 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: It's a lot of oh sorry, I'm sick hold on. 230 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: Being with her there. Yes, I figured I've been to 231 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: ask you this, like do you get how I am 232 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 4: why I am the way I am now? Because you 233 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 4: haven't really spent a lot of time with my mom. 234 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: You've just heard me talk about her. You've gotten glimpses 235 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: of her, like you know here and there throughout you know, 236 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: our friendship together. But I had that thought at the 237 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: retreat because like my mom is like you know, she's 238 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: she's a very she's observant. But like what I've gotten 239 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 4: from my mom to well, it's it's a bit of both. 240 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: My mom's judgmental period, Like she'll never admit it, but 241 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: she is, and I'm a bit judgmental for sure, I 242 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 4: can be in some ways. And the thing about her 243 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: is that very rarely does she change her mind, you know, 244 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: Like I feel like with me, I'm open, Like I'm 245 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: open to my mind changing, you know, Like I've said, oh, 246 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: I was wrong about that person, or like, you know, 247 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: I'm willing to like check in with myself and do that, 248 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 4: whereas my mom is not. There's a stubbornness in her 249 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: and when she makes her mind up about something, it 250 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: is what it is, you know. And I think like 251 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: the retreat was challenging for me because again, like I 252 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: was trying to work through my mommy pleasing and while 253 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: also like taking care of a lot of other women 254 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: and also for two weeks and then you know, taking 255 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: care of my daughter and then after the retreat taking 256 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: care of her as well, because my mom is going 257 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: through some shit and it's like it was heavy the 258 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 4: whole retreat. There was shit going I was like literally 259 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: asking God, like why God, what is going on? Why 260 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: are you throwing all these obstacles at my mom at 261 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: this moment where like I've prayed for this moment for 262 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: her to come here and be able to like rest here, 263 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: and there's all this shit happening back home. My Grandma's 264 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: in the hospital like so much, so many things that 265 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: like are pulling at her away from being present here, 266 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: and like she pushed through and I took the reins 267 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: a lot literally too. I took her phone one day 268 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: I took. I deleted Instagram off of her phone for 269 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: the entire trip. I downloaded Spotify and like downloaded a 270 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: bunch of playlists so that she didn't need to be 271 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: I put her phone on airplane modes that she didn't 272 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: need to actually like she my mom is a doom scroller. 273 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: I just realized that even our parents of a different 274 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: generation who didn't grow up on the phones are severely 275 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: addicted to these phones. And it's become like a distress 276 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: for whatever, I mean for all of us, but like 277 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: for whatever is happening in our lives, we just distract 278 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: ourselves and also like start like judging ourselves based on 279 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: whatever we're looking at on the internet and connected to 280 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: our email. Like my mom has a lot of like 281 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: fear around like not being present in her business and 282 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: like dismissing something and everything's going to fall apart, you know. 283 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: And it was really hard for me to watch her. 284 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 4: And she was dealing with severe back problems the whole time, 285 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: so it was like weighing on me. And I like, 286 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: I'm I'm such an EmPATH and I like never thought 287 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: that I was, And I don't like it's like it's 288 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: like getting to the point like now where it's like 289 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: I don't even know how to deal with it sometimes 290 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: because I didn't. I don't know if like my empathy 291 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: like has just begun to expand as I get older, 292 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: whereas before, like I was able to like compartmentalize things 293 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: where I can't anymore, and like I'm deeply affected by 294 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: like energies. So I'm like, I have a lot of 295 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: protective practices, and I talk about this with the ladies 296 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: at the retreat, but like no one can prepare you 297 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: for like the protective practice of your parent, you know, 298 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: Like it's it's like an emotional like umbelical cord that 299 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: can't be like undone. And I'm like at work, and 300 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: so it was. It was good, but it was heavy 301 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: for me a lot. And I want I wish I 302 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: want to do it again. I wish that she would 303 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: come again, maybe in a different moment in her life 304 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: where like she can actually really surrender to the experience 305 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: like physically, like when her body feels better and just 306 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: like when she feels more at peace with where she's 307 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: at in her life, Like I not that, like I 308 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: know that people come to the retreat for that reason. 309 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: But I think because she's never given herself a break 310 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: in that way, and she's never done any type of 311 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: work like this truly, which is so interesting to me 312 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: because the reason why I'm into the woo woo shit 313 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: is because of that woman. Like growing up, she had 314 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: me on astrologizone dot com. She's the one who was 315 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: like all up in my horoscope. She was the one 316 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 4: who was like meeting with readers and spiritualists, and she 317 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 4: was the one who was nate but ass naked in 318 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: my house all the time. And like it's almost like 319 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: she's forgotten that piece of her, like she's become very 320 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: cynical and like scared. I think. 321 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there's all there's always like there's you know, 322 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: even us for people who are not our parent or 323 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: not a family member. 324 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: There are people who come. 325 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: In the retreat more than once, and we literally see 326 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: too totally different versions of them, Like I'm thinking of 327 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Ashley right now, like shout out to Ashley and New York. 328 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: She knows who she is and she's been on more 329 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: than one retreat and like the person we saw the 330 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: first time, obviously there was a level of evolution to 331 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: the last day. But when I saw her again the 332 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: following year, or maybe it was that summer wholl night 333 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: and day like she and so I realized in this 334 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: work is like everyone is coming at showing up a 335 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: different different different places, and so if you haven't really 336 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: even considered opening up and what that means to your 337 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: nervous system, and like, yeah, it's like the it begins 338 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: with the Ashtro cafe and the readers, because that's fun. 339 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: But like the commitment to getting into the spiritual part 340 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: of self and to the emotional work is something different. 341 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: And I also, you know, considering like seeing you with 342 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: your mom, and then also even your grandmother, who I 343 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: spend even less time with, but I know she's around. 344 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: Considering how your mom is raised by your grandmother and 345 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: how that's affected her, and how you know, like just 346 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: visually seeing and observing the things that we take from 347 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: our parents. And you know earlier we like when we 348 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: were just recording and we had to start over her 349 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: because of technology. You said, it's interesting, you said, like, 350 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm not a people pleaser, but I do always want 351 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: to please my mom. And I'm like that's interesting, like 352 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: to not have because I'm someone who's had people pleasing tendencies, 353 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: And I think it's because growing up I needed attention 354 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: that I didn't get, Like there was a level of oh, 355 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: she's all right, you know, because I am like I 356 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 2: was self sufficient or I had to be, so there 357 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: was like pay maybe a people pleasing to like pay, 358 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: like look at me. So I'm wondering, like, where do 359 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: you think the like the like the need for validation 360 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: from your mom comes from so strongly, whereas outside people 361 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: you're just like, eh, I could get I could care less, 362 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like that's I think I 363 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: think I felt like most people have that need for 364 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: validation from their parents, but I don't. I don't really 365 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: like I'm really big on like I'm gonna do what 366 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: I want to do whether you criticize me or not 367 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: from my parents. And I think that's the rebellious part 368 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: of me, probably because I was probably neglected a little bit. 369 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, like what do you think that is? 370 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: Because I think that is probably something that you are 371 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: being asked to explore in a part of Like you know, 372 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure that that came up while you were there, 373 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, well what is it in my 374 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: in my childhood that made me feel that I needed 375 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: to like really hear this from her. Is it that 376 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: maybe she didn't say that to you growing up, or 377 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: like did did like did that come through it all 378 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: being in this intimate space with her on the retreat. 379 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely, like I think I'm still exploring her. 380 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: But I think some of it comes from her being 381 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: my only parent. Really, you know, I didn't have both 382 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 4: parents in the house. She's my primary parent. She's always 383 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: been my primary parent. Obviously, me and my dad have 384 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: relationship now, but it's more like my homie than like 385 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: a parental person. So I think, like there's I think 386 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 4: as children, we want to please our parents, like we're like, Mommy, 387 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: look at me, like look at this cartwheel, look at this, 388 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: look at that, look at this, And perhaps I didn't 389 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 4: get enough attention. I don't know. I mean, I don't 390 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: recall that feeling growing up, but I do know that 391 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 4: my mom was working a lot, so perhaps it was 392 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 4: like internalized in me and paired with the criticalness that 393 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: I experienced as a child, Like my grandmother so critical 394 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 4: of my mother, so critical of everything everyone my mom 395 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: always said, like my mom, my grandmother barely told her, 396 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: she loved her, like she showed her love through cooking 397 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 4: and like making their clothes. Like my and my grandmother 398 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: cared so deeply about what people thought about her children 399 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: still now cares so deeply what people think about every 400 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: little thing. And that's translated to my mother and it's 401 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: not as severe, just like it's translated to me in 402 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 4: ways like it's lightened and enlightened and enlightened, but it's 403 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: still there even in me. And I think, like being 404 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: young and wanting to be I think, you know, I 405 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: wanted I wanted I start acting really young, and I 406 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: wanted to be in this entertainment industry that my mom 407 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: was already in as a makeup artist. And that probably 408 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: made the criticalness seem it made her critique me, but 409 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 4: for a purpose, right, you say you want to do 410 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: this thing, so then you need to do this and this. 411 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: So like at a very young age, I was hyper 412 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 4: aware of like, okay, liked did I say thank you? 413 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 4: Did I like? My mom even does this now? Did 414 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: you say thank you? I'm like, Mom, I'm fucking almost 415 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: forty years old. I don't need you to tell me 416 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 4: ask if I said thank you? Okay, So I see 417 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: her do it with my brother. I see her do 418 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 4: with my family. I see how annoyed everybody gets with her, 419 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: and she's so confused, like doesn't understand why people are annoyed, 420 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 4: and you know, but I know that it comes from 421 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 4: a good place, and I know that a lot of 422 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: it comes from from my grandmother. So I think like 423 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 4: there's just wanting her to, I guess be proud of 424 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 4: me in ways. And it's not like she hasn't said 425 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 4: she's proud of me, but it's like there's always like 426 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 4: this little tinge of something there that I can't put 427 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: my finger on that makes me feel like it's not 428 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: quite right, you know, like almost got it right. And 429 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 4: that's how I've I've felt like most of my life 430 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: with her, and so I've always been highly I've been 431 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: highly critical of myself. I've been like very self conscious 432 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: about my body, but like no one would ever know that. 433 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 4: I never like let on like I mean, I've done 434 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 4: a lot of work now, but like I don't really 435 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: let people into that those insecurities into me. It's like 436 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 4: all internal. Because I've also watched my mom be very 437 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: critical of herself and still on this trip. The amount 438 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: of negative self talk that I was fighting against with 439 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: her all day was fucking exhausting. I'm not even gonna lie. 440 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: I was like at one point, I was like, you 441 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: gotta stop, Like you have got to fucking stop, Like 442 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: like I don't you know? So I think I think 443 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: it did? 444 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 2: Did she? Did she hear you? Did she? 445 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 446 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: And she's and and I've done this with her too 447 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: as a kid too, Like I remember being a teenager 448 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: like mom, like, stop talking about so bad about your body, 449 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: Like what do you think that does for me? Like 450 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: how do you think that makes me feel? And she 451 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, But then she'd write back on it like 452 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 4: it's like a habit. She can't help it, you know, 453 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: And like she's a libra so like her whole like 454 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: her whole world is about making things beautiful, like leaving 455 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 4: things better than she left them. Like libras just love 456 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 4: beauty and making things beautiful and pretty, and they can 457 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: like see the but see like you know, the the 458 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: ugly duckling and like how they can make her. You know, 459 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: that's why she's a fucking makeup artist. That's why she's 460 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: a brand founder in beauty. Like I get it, she's 461 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: but like with me, it was like detrimental, and so 462 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: I think, like I've spent a lot of time. It's 463 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: funny though, because I know you said like with your parents, 464 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 4: like you don't really give a fuck whatever. I give 465 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 4: a fuck, but I still do what I want, Like 466 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 4: I still, I still I was the rebellious child. It's 467 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 4: like I'm a mom pleaser, but I still did what 468 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: I want wanted, but I was like a rebel with anxiety. 469 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: That's what I called myself. Like I would do it, 470 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: but then I'd. 471 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: Be like, I mean, I think I think we all 472 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: crave our parents' validation. We all want to be told 473 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: that they're proud of us, you know, like we come 474 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: from these people. That is inevitable. I think. I yeah, 475 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: I think with my parents. I think my mom. One 476 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: thing she would do to me was like I would 477 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: tell her something and then she's like maybe. She'd be 478 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: telling the story and be like, well, supposedly, da da 479 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: da dah, and I'd be like, why are you saying supposedly. 480 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: She's like what supposedly. I'm like, I just fucking said it. 481 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: It's not supposedly, it's a fact. And it was like 482 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 2: almost like a doubt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like 483 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: that really bothered me. And uh so, I don't know, 484 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: it's just it's all you know what now specifically right 485 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: now and this like week and this, and like like 486 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: I'm recognizing how like when we decide to do the work, 487 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: you know, they always say like it heals seven generations 488 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: behind you and seven generations ahead of you, and and 489 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: I believe that. And I just see not the stark 490 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: difference between like your mom or my mom or whatever, 491 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: but I see this, like how the shifts happen. And 492 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: because I've only known my grandmother, we can only go 493 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: so far up the family tree. I can see, you know, 494 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: how certain experiences and certain things like you know, register 495 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: with each child. And it's so interesting to me how 496 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: we're you know, how we interpret them and translate them 497 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: and hold on to them and like play they play 498 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: out in our adulthood. 499 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: And it's a big deal. 500 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: And I know, like all the fucking woo woo healer 501 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: light work shit is always like heal the inner child, 502 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: do the shadow work. But that inner child shit is 503 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: so mother fucking real. 504 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: And it's so. 505 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: I think right now, it's like it's just very clear 506 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: if you are not in communication with that version of you. 507 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: And when I say communication, like even just taking the 508 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: moment to sit back and you know, go through the 509 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: files of childhood and to observe and sit with and 510 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: you know, just observe how they've affected you, like you're 511 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: going to miss a lot of shit, and even like 512 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: this week, and it's so interesting that we're having this 513 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: conversation because this week specifically, you know, Orlando started a 514 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: new job and me and him had like two separate, 515 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: like uh disagreements, and I can't even really fucking think 516 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: of it is at this very moment. It was like 517 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: how I was talking to him, and for him it 518 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: was something like some trust thing that came up that 519 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: came up for me and it was like back to 520 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 2: back on two different days. But in resolving it, there 521 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: was a point where I was crying so hard and 522 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: I was like, this is not about this. This is 523 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: about some shit my dad did. This is like this 524 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 2: is different than whatever. 525 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not that. 526 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: And same he had some issues with me about how 527 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: I was talking to him, and I was just like 528 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was that crazy, and he 529 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: was like you and he started like talking to me 530 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: and saying, like my mom talked to me and like 531 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: said these things things to me, and I didn't deserve it. 532 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: And I could see like this was stemming from something else, 533 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: you know, and I realized that, you know, being in 534 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 2: a healthy relationship. And when I say healthy, I just 535 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: mean two adults that are choosing to be aware and 536 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: compassionate and empathetic and like. And when you're in a 537 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: healthy relationship, you recognize that every relationship that we have 538 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: in adulthood is going to trigger you, because that is 539 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: the point when you feel safe with someone, when you 540 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: have close relationships with someone, even in friendship, people are 541 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: going to trigger you because there's a lesson there that 542 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: you're supposed to in a wound that you're supposed to heal, 543 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: but you have to be able to look at it 544 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: and you have to be able to follow the string 545 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: all the way back to the root of the wound. 546 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: And if you're unable to do that, if you're unable 547 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: to sit in the discomfort of that, then you're never 548 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: going to get to it. And like, being in this 549 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: relationship that's healthy, that's safe. Not to say we don't argue, 550 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: obviously we do, we're human, but to be able to 551 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: be clear enough to be like, oh, in this moment, 552 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: I was not being empathetic to his experience or to 553 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: your experience, your childhood experience, knowing that you had an 554 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: abusive mom, knowing that you had a neglectfule mom, knowing 555 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: that you had a highly critical mom, or whatever. The 556 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: thing is, Like, you know, in close relationships, you have 557 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: to go in when you love someone, even understanding that 558 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: lens and also understanding that about yourself. And like the 559 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: thing we got into it about was trust. And I realize, like, 560 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: I don't trust men because I don't really trust my 561 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: dad and he's always been in my life. My parents 562 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: have been married my whole life, but my dad has 563 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: always been like a chronic cheater and would ask me 564 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: lie about it, and like since I was a kid, 565 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: this is the conversation that I heard. But my mom 566 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: is fairly extremely insecure and extremely violent about it instead 567 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: of just leaving. But it came up with me in Orlando, 568 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: and I was just completely totally offended and like thinking 569 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: the worst, and he's like, well, why don't you trust me? 570 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: And it was just like a back and forth. But 571 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: I realized, like in close relationships, a part of our 572 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: responsibility is to soothe. I'm sorry, this is not what 573 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: I meant by that, Like we're going to ask our 574 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: partners or our friends to in ways soothe wounds. 575 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: That they did not even create. 576 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: And it's interesting, Like I was like wondering this week, 577 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is in the stars that 578 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: this is like all of these childhood things are erupting. 579 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: But I just realized that, like, a lot of the 580 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: things that we find. 581 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: Take issue with in adulthood are generally things that started 582 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: deeply a long time ago, and that now we have 583 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: the you know, we have the time and the space 584 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: and the tools hopefully to address them. But if we're 585 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: not thinking that way, then it's very hard to do that. 586 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's true. It's true. And I you know, 587 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: it's like I have this unique opportunity because I do 588 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: I have a relationship with my mom, because I do 589 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: think like when you're healing your inner child, like wouldn't 590 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: it be great if you could hear your inner child 591 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 4: alongside your parent who was there for your childhood. And 592 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: obviously that's not like the circumstances for a lot of people, 593 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 4: like you have to do the work alone. And and 594 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: even if you have a parent like you still have 595 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: to You probably still have to do a lot of 596 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: the work alone because your parent is probably not going 597 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: to acknowledge certain things that happen because that wasn't their 598 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: experience of the situation. And I had that. I had 599 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: that come up for me actually at the retreat when 600 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 4: we were in workshop and we asked the question, like, 601 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: what about you feels hardest to love? And I said 602 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: my sensitivity and she said, yeah, you were really you 603 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: were really sensitive as a kid, super sensitive. I didn't, like, 604 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: I didn't understand like why you would get upset about 605 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 4: certain things, and it felt dismissive again, and I was like, 606 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: what the fuck, Like I'm here telling you what you 607 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: know and I but again I'm like, okay, well, like 608 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 4: you know, that's her experience. Her experience is she didn't 609 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 4: understand at age whatever, thirty years old, why her seven 610 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 4: year old was offended or like why my feelings were 611 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: hurt because she's dealing with trying to fucking pay the rent, 612 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: trying to get this done, trying to da da da, 613 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: you're crying about what, Like, I don't got time for that. 614 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 4: But for me, it was like the end of the world, 615 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 4: you know, And for me, it was like the deep 616 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: and it probably still is in my body now. But 617 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: it's like you kind of have to just accept certain 618 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 4: things that like your parents are, you know, they're not 619 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 4: going to relate to certain experiences that you've had as 620 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: a child. They're not like even like I realized my 621 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: mom has a hard time with affection, which I didn't 622 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: even realize until the retreat, because I really when I 623 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: was young, I think I got a lot of affection 624 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 4: from her. But then at some point in my teenage 625 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: years when I started rebelling against her and I didn't 626 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: want anything to do with her, especially touched me. We 627 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: never reverted back. We never got back to that. And 628 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: I thought I was thinking, like, how many people have 629 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: that shared experience, Like there's this break in your relationship 630 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: with your parent, usually around your teens, and then you 631 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: never recover from that, You never go back to the 632 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: loving like mother, daughter, father, da whatever dynamic because how. 633 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, well then you chop it up to like pubescence 634 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: and prebretty and like that's weird and and you know, 635 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: and like on the mom shit too. 636 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 3: It's like your mom. 637 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: Probably had to develop pretty things skin pretty young, so 638 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: she's thinking about Tani and how she probably talked to 639 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: her and then thinking when you're like thirteen or thirty, 640 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: you're acting soft. 641 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 3: She's like, what the fuck are you talking about? 642 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: You know, like there's there's there's no association to it, 643 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: because she's probably built that skin up really young as 644 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: a form of defense, you know what I mean, And 645 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: so it's hard for her to see that in you 646 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: and hard to connect to that part because she's in 647 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: ways protected herself from words, and so she's like, why 648 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: are you being so sensitive? You know what I mean? 649 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: And so like, yeah, it is your it's fucked up. 650 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: But a part of this work is like it's your 651 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: job to revert that and be like, it's okay to 652 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: have feelings. It's okay mom to feel you know, it's 653 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: okay to touch, and it's it feels heavy because it's like, 654 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: why the fuck is this my responsibility as the child? 655 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: But this is about this is a part of the 656 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: reason we choose our parents and like they you know, 657 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: and like we, like the universe, chooses each other because 658 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: there are lessons for each other that we're here to learn. 659 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: And like I remember being in high school and like 660 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: fucking not wanting my mom to touch me like I 661 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: don't want to want to slide past you in the 662 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: like the hallway and like that's crazy. 663 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: But now even as us in a. 664 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: Good place, like it does feel difficult for me to 665 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: feel like super affectionate, and I feel ashamed to say that, 666 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 2: you know, like maybe it didn't like I didn't make 667 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,479 Speaker 2: an effort to ever go back to that place after 668 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: I wrote it off in high school. And now I'm 669 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 2: having to be an adult and except that she's human 670 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: and that she is capable of change, even if it 671 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: is at fifty eight or fifty nine years old, and 672 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: I have to also commit to changing the way I 673 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: see her and the way I interact with her, just 674 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: for the like love, you know, Like there's times I've. 675 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: Slept over her house. 676 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: She's like, sleep in the bed with me, and I'm like, nah, 677 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it doesn't feel comfortable 678 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 2: for me. And that's that I think now as a mom, 679 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: it hurts to admit that because I would hate I 680 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: don't care how old Luna is for her to you know, 681 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: to even to to reject me in that way. 682 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: And it is important that we have. 683 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: This conversation now, right before this teenage time that we're 684 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 2: about to get into with them as they are approaching eleven, 685 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: that I'm really conscious of like keeping the affection up 686 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: even through those changes, because you're right, like we don't 687 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: discuss the water under the bridge of parental relationships because 688 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: in like romantic relationships, when there's water, too much water 689 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: under the bridge, yea, you break up. 690 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm over it. 691 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: Yeah you're dead, You're done. 692 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: But but you know you can't break up. 693 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: I mean you can, people do it, but you know, 694 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 4: usually it's if it's not severe enough, you're not usually 695 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: not going to do that. And like you know, in 696 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 4: my case, it's it's never been It's never been like that, 697 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: you know. I mean, my mom have had a good relationship, 698 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 4: but is it the closest has it always been the closest? Know, 699 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 4: I think over the last few years we've gotten really close. 700 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 4: I definitely feel like the roles shifting, and I'm I 701 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 4: think it's my I think it's age because I feel 702 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 4: like I've talked to other women and not even women, 703 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 4: men too around this age where like there's this shift 704 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 4: like your parents are realizing like they're nearing the endish, 705 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 4: not end, but the endish of their lives and you 706 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 4: are realizing, oh shit, I'm gonna have to take care 707 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: of you. And also like you're starting to really humanize 708 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 4: your parent because you're because of your own personal life experiences, 709 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 4: whether you're being a mother, whatever, workforce, whatever the fuck, 710 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 4: Like you're starting to realize, oh, my god, no wonder 711 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 4: she didn't have the capacity for me at that age 712 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 4: because blah blah blah, because I'm going through this right now, 713 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: so you know. And then me literally being in the 714 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 4: caretaker role out of retreat where I'm responsible for helping 715 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,479 Speaker 4: these women, guiding these women, leading these women, including my mother, 716 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: you know, and seeing where she's stuck, seeing the where 717 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 4: like the work never got done or never even started. 718 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 4: And you're right, like I do see that the healing 719 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 4: seven years. I mean, I can only I can't speak 720 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 4: for seven years behind me. I know it's probably happening, 721 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 4: but I can't. I mean, but like in the for 722 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 4: the future, I see it through my daughter. I see 723 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 4: it even with my mom, like her leaning in, leaning 724 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 4: into me more, her accepting me more, her flying across 725 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 4: the count like across out of the United States, taking 726 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: to a plane, staying in a hotel, and I traveling 727 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 4: into the jungle like, that's a lot of effort for 728 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 4: a woman her age, like and that I know that 729 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 4: that that's a big deal because three or four years ago, 730 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 4: there would have been no fucking way on earth that 731 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 4: she would have even been interested to know what the 732 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 4: fuck I'm doing over here. So I know that there's 733 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: healing taking place. I know that there's progress taking place, 734 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: and it is uncomfortable. I am still processing. It was challenging. 735 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 4: I do think that we does we owe it to 736 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 4: our mothers to bring this work to them. I will 737 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 4: say too, yes, it is easier to be in the 738 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 4: work with strangers because even in our own personal relationship, 739 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I'd be like, damn, Mela can 740 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 4: sit and fucking talk to these women. But we have 741 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 4: an issue, like I feel like she avoids me, but 742 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 4: like she don't know this bitch from a grain of salt, 743 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 4: and she's gonna let her cry with her and ask 744 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 4: her all these questions. But when we have it but 745 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: with me and you sometimes and that goes vice versa, 746 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 4: like there's a resistance when you are close with someone, 747 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: not all the time, but specific people when it's extremely 748 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: sensitive where you avoid you know, and like I wanted 749 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: to avoid this trip with my mom's like she was 750 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 4: coming and I was like, oh my god, like why no, 751 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 4: like are you sure? 752 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 2: Fuck? 753 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 4: Like I know she needs it, but like I know 754 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 4: I invited you, but you know, and it's like, why 755 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 4: would I be giving this medicine to everyone else except 756 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 4: the woman who fucking birthed me? Like why because you know, 757 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 4: and and out of fear of judgment, out of fear 758 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 4: of it not working, out of fear of it being like, 759 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 4: oh well it works on everyone else but didn't work 760 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 4: on you, book, Like is it real? 761 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: Is it real? 762 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 4: You know, like the judgment of myself. And I think 763 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 4: it's like pushing past We have to push past those 764 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 4: those fears because A that's the calling on our lives, 765 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 4: or at least mine, and B because like our fucking future, 766 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 4: our descendants deserve this shit. They deserve it, and in 767 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 4: this world that's crazy and acting so strange, like at 768 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 4: least we can we can like know that, like our 769 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 4: families are straight, like mentally and emotionally and physically and 770 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 4: basically and spiritually. 771 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 2: Spiritually, And I mean, I think obviously it's a calling 772 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: on our lives because we're here doing it, so like 773 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: there would be no reason for our purpose to be 774 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: you know, like so clear, but for every for everybody 775 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: else outside of the people directly related to us, you know, 776 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 2: and it is it's gonna it's going to require that 777 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 2: you do things that are on like more and more 778 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: and more, Like I would say, like I said, like 779 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: the work's never done. And it also like luckily we 780 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 2: are people that have the insight to like obviously we're human, 781 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 2: but like to self respect, I mean self analyze and 782 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 2: self reflect and say, like what is my avoidance with conflict? 783 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 3: What does this mean to me? 784 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: You know? And like for me, like I grew up 785 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 2: in a household where like conflicts were fights were the 786 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 2: like it was this big blow up and like I 787 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 2: didn't see a lot of healthy arguments. I saw fucking 788 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 2: chaos and violence. And so I think maybe as an adult, 789 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: I avoid it because I'm like this is going to 790 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: lead to this and I and I don't want this 791 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: to lead to this huge violent like like explosion and 792 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 2: like having to reprogram and rewire like what what conflict means? 793 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: And like truly the conflict is like if you have 794 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,479 Speaker 2: a conflict and you can talk past it, you're gonna 795 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: always be closer to the person versus assuming that conflict 796 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 2: automatically means fucking chaos, you know what I mean. Like, 797 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 2: there's there's so much of like adulthood that is based 798 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: in observing why why the fuck do I act this way? 799 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 2: Why do I feel this way? Why did I just 800 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: tell myself this? Why am I so highly critical of 801 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: this this and that? You know? Why am I judging 802 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 2: this person? Or whatever? 803 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 3: The fuck? 804 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 2: It is? A lot of it is like these are 805 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 2: these are decisions and that we've made, or like a 806 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: filter that has like covered our lens in childhood or 807 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: in early development that now it's lived with us. But 808 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: most a lot of people aren't committed to questioning the 809 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: why of why you are. Some people are like, well, 810 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: that's just how I am. And it's like is it 811 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: just how you are? Or is there a room for 812 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 2: you to expand and try harder and do it again 813 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: and be better? 814 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 3: You know, And it's like it's not easy, but life 815 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 3: is a fucking. 816 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 2: Lesson, Like our souls have a contract and some shit 817 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 2: is supposed to get done this this iteration, and like 818 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: if you don't do it, we're gonna be back in 819 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 2: this bitch trying again in a different body, and you 820 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: might be a male and maybe it'll be white, maybe 821 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: you'll have different circumstances. 822 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 3: But that's life, you know. So yeah, this. 823 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 2: Is yeah, I'm grateful that we have. I'm just I'm 824 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 2: grateful that this is the work that we're in because 825 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 2: even if it's Wu wou or whatever, we're always at 826 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: least trying to dig a little deeper, go a little further, 827 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 2: try a little harder. 828 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 4: I mean, and I can't help it because I'm always 829 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm such a like whenever I'm going as 830 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 4: I'm going through this work with my mother, I'm thinking, 831 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 4: oh my god, like we need to do a mom 832 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 4: and mom retreat, Like we need to do a mom 833 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 4: and mom retreat, and my mom must come back. We 834 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 4: talked about doing a mom you know, mom and daughter 835 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 4: retreat like a kid retreat, which, like, you know, we 836 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 4: got a lot of people interested in and I'm excited 837 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 4: to do something like that, But I'm also like that 838 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 4: other aspect of like my mom coming on this retreat 839 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 4: made me realize, like, if your mom is still here 840 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 4: on this earth and is willing to come into a 841 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 4: space like that with you, why the fuck not, you know, 842 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 4: and like you're talking about generational healing like that shit, 843 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 4: Like I already know whatever we did in there out 844 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 4: in the jungle, like it's still the healing is still 845 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 4: working right now in this very moment, you know. 846 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 2: Like that is so. 847 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 4: Powerful, like being able to sit in your mother's arms 848 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 4: like a baby or vice versa, you know, and being 849 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 4: able to care for one another in that way where 850 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: it's just about you, there's no distractions, Like I have 851 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 4: to do some healing with my mom first before I 852 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 4: can probably facilitate something like that. 853 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 3: I mean, you are, but you did, but you did it. 854 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 3: I'm like I'm doing it, but yeah, but. 855 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 4: I'm still working through the discomfort, you know, Like I'm 856 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 4: not on the other side. I don't know, Like I 857 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 4: don't I don't want to say I'm not on the 858 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 4: other side of it. I'm not on the other side 859 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 4: of it, and I know that there's maybe no perfect 860 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 4: other side of it, but I do feel like there's 861 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 4: a level of like initiation in that space that I 862 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 4: need to go walk a little bit through before facilitating 863 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 4: experience like that. But I realize how important it is 864 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 4: and how like necessary it the fuck is. 865 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that the mom wounds, the parental wounds 866 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: in general, are deep seated, and you're right, like, if 867 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 2: we are here in life, while you can do it 868 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 2: out loud, why not. And it's not to say that 869 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: everyone's gonna you know, it's gonna be easier. 870 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 3: Your mom's gonna just take it. It's gonna be like that. 871 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: You know. I got into it with my mom the 872 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: other day because she was like telling me she worked 873 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: my whole life, and I was like, you did it. 874 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 2: You stopped working when I was nine, and she's like, no, 875 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: I did it, No I did it. I was like, no, 876 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 2: you did and she's like, no, I did it. I 877 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 2: worked your whole life. And I was like, mom, why 878 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: would I have this very specific number, not like I 879 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 2: know exactly when you stopped working. And then she was 880 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: just getting like nasty a little bit with me, and 881 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 2: I was just like, never mind, girl, I'm not about 882 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: to keep going arguing back and forth. But what I 883 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: noticed in that moment, it was like she was me 884 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 2: saying she stopped working at nine, which was a fucking fact, 885 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: was me saying you didn't do shit. That's what fed 886 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 2: HER's that's what she was hearing. And you know, a 887 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: couple of hours later, she called me and she was like, 888 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,479 Speaker 2: I talked to your dad. You're right, I did stop 889 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: working when you ran in the fourth grade, but I 890 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: was taking you to doctor's appointments. I was like, yeah, 891 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: of course. 892 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 4: Well, because she's still working. She was raising you, which 893 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 4: is a whole other job. I mean, I know that's 894 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 4: not what she was thinking when you've said that, but 895 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 4: I probably in her in her mind, in her body, 896 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 4: she didn't get a break, you know what I mean, yeah, 897 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 4: kind of not physically checked into the She might have 898 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 4: not physically checked into the job, you know, but in 899 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 4: her muscle memory, bitch, I was working the fuck. 900 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: And it just it was just like a really clear 901 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 2: indication of like what I'm saying versus what you're hearing, right, 902 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 2: And also like I wasn't about to argue and go 903 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 2: back and forth, and I was kind of getting frustrated, 904 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 2: and then I was just like, never mind, Like why 905 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: am I arguing about this? And then she called me 906 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: back later and agreed with what I was saying, and 907 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 2: I was just like, it's very interesting, Like I know, 908 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 2: as a mom, we are sensitive beings because we do 909 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 2: do so much for our children and we sacrifice and 910 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: we pour into and like a lot of times it 911 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 2: feels like a thankless job. And I at that, and 912 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 2: so I just like I obviously need to like affirm 913 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: her more. But like even the fact that she called 914 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 2: me back and was like, actually, you're right, yeah, I know, thanks, 915 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 2: But it's just it's interesting that, you know, like we 916 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 2: have to kind of learn the language of our parents, 917 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: and like a lot of it is they want to 918 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: be thanked and recognized for feeding you and keeping you 919 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 2: live for your whole life, which I gain, and. 920 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 4: We want to be recognized, and you know, we want 921 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 4: our parents to be proud of us, you know, so 922 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 4: it's kind of the same shit. I'm trying to bring 923 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 4: this backwood back to life, okay, because bitch, if you 924 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 4: saw the backwood cemetery that's happening before my fucking eyes here, Bitch, 925 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 4: these dry backwards that I have. So I'm literally putting 926 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 4: this whole cigar in water, hoping to reignite the moisture 927 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 4: so that I don't rip this open and it just 928 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 4: falls to pieces, because what in the backwood is going 929 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 4: on here? 930 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 2: I have this grape backwood from Costa Rica, and you 931 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 2: know what I said, one episode that I was going 932 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 2: to try it without your babe. Oh no, I'm going 933 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 2: to hear GEP you know what to do? 934 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I think I fixed it. Wait let 935 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 4: me Yeah, Oh my god, I re wait. I think 936 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 4: I need more water. 937 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 3: You rehydrated it rehydrated the backwoods. 938 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 2: See, I'm a backwood CPR, CPR D I CPR this bitch. 939 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 2: I have a grape one and I want to try 940 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 2: it without putting weed in it like you did like 941 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 2: a cigar. 942 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, come on girl. Oh no, my mom is 943 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: not talking about her. She's calling me. 944 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 3: Now, were you talking about me on that podcast? 945 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 4: If you always, she'll be mortified. Everyone, do not tell 946 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 4: her I talked about her on this episode, don't you. 947 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 3: Dare you know what? She'll be so mortified that she 948 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 3: won't listen. You know my mom. 949 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 2: My mom has still read our book. And one day 950 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 2: she was like, I was gonna say I was gonna 951 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 2: send it to my friend. And then I realized I 952 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 2: don't know what she said about me. I said, yeah, 953 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 2: maybe you should read it before you go passing along 954 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: to your new friend. 955 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 3: Like so interesting, my mom hasn't read them, But like, 956 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 3: what does your mom say? 957 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,760 Speaker 4: See but that's what I'm saying, Like it's like whatever, 958 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 4: you don't have to read the book, but like it's 959 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 4: always like this little thing that's not quite you. 960 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 2: No, she's afraid to read the book. My mom told 961 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: me she's afraid to read the book to see what 962 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 2: I wrote about her. 963 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 3: Your mom's also afraid. 964 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 2: I can only imagine that's the only reason they're not. 965 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, the book I get. Okay, the podcast I get, yes, yes, yes, 966 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 4: But I think throughout my life, like there were moments 967 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 4: where I wanted her to cheer for me harder, you know, 968 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 4: like I needed her to like really go there, you know, 969 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 4: like really celebrate me in a way that felt, and 970 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 4: not give me any critiques afterwards. Well next time, oh 971 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: shut the fuck up. 972 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: There, just let it be. 973 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, And there was always like the critique because she 974 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 4: wanted me to be the best, and you know, thankfully, 975 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 4: you know, I am because of that, but not but 976 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 4: not without some fucking anxiety. Yeah. Yeah, So wait, I 977 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 4: need to get a napkin. 978 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a great backwood. I'm gonna smoke it, 979 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: just regular like a cigar, like a big papa. 980 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 4: Okay. So I told Mila that the trick to tasting 981 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 4: the flavors of the backwoods, and you have to actually 982 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 4: smoke it like a real cigar. The flavor, the great 983 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 4: flavor is keep moving. My mic I told Jamila that 984 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 4: the trick smoking backwood is you have to actually smoke 985 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 4: the whole backwood with the shit inside, because the flavoring 986 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 4: is in the stuffing. We take the stuffing out to 987 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 4: put the weed in, like I'm about to do, because 988 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 4: I think I've doctored up my backwood the way I'm. 989 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 2: Gonna get cursed out for smoking a full cigar in 990 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 2: my bed. 991 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 4: Well, I'm yeah, I'm smoking in my house too, because 992 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 4: I'm not going outside. But see, this is the this 993 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 4: is why, this is what I've waited for. This is 994 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 4: what adulthood is about. 995 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 3: Do whatever the fuck you want smoke. 996 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 4: In my house. Shut the fuck up, leave me alone, 997 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 4: I read, Go upstairs, go close the door. 998 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: Okay, it's actually not as bad, like as bad as 999 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 2: I thought it'd be. 1000 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 4: It's not so bad. And do you taste the grape? 1001 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: I do. 1002 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 3: It is more grapy than if I would have put 1003 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 3: the weed in here. 1004 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 4: Mm, I'm not mad at this, doesn't he don't you 1005 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 4: feel like a like a sophisticated and. 1006 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: I got my collared shirt on. I feel like like 1007 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 2: a Cuban mommy. You're not gonna be poppy. 1008 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 4: Don't inhale too much. Just like you know, let the 1009 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 4: just like you know, like the Cubans do. They just 1010 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 4: like let it sit in their mad Give me a 1011 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 4: Bobby gimme. Yeah, it's not even the shirt, it's the 1012 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 4: it's the head wrap for me. 1013 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 5: Baby, I've had four inches of hair out for three 1014 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 5: days and I'm. 1015 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 2: Already over it. 1016 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 4: You want to cut it again. 1017 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm either gonna get braids, so I'm gonna get braids 1018 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 2: to go to Bali. But yeah, I don't know how 1019 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 2: long this is gonna last. Baby, that's not total November bitch. 1020 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,240 Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna get braids. I'm gonna get braids. 1021 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 3: Maybe I need to get it. Maybe I need to 1022 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: get my hair done. 1023 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: I need something to do it for me. I'm not 1024 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 2: like well versed on more than three inches of hair yet. 1025 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 2: I haven't had hair since like all I was pregnant 1026 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: with Linda. 1027 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 4: I was gonna take these braids. I think I put 1028 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 4: my weave back in. I think it's I think it's 1029 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 4: falls for weaves. 1030 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 2: Oh you know what, Actually, I have I have some clippings. 1031 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: Remember that time I clippins that time I burnt my 1032 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 2: hair out with herm Yeah, I still have them, I remember. 1033 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I don't know if you guys remember 1034 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 2: I told this story. It was like three years ago. 1035 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: I over processed. I was doing my own hair all 1036 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 2: the time for like a decade, and I thought I 1037 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 2: was a professional. And I left the perman while I 1038 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 2: was cleaning my room because I just did it so 1039 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 2: many times. I just knew, I knew what I was doing, 1040 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: and baby about I had a cute little hairstyle. And 1041 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 2: about three days later I moved the bang baby, and 1042 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: all of this was gone. That okay gone And blessed 1043 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: Orlando's heart because that was right around the time we 1044 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 2: went out of town together for thirty days and I 1045 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,919 Speaker 2: had to like no braids could go right here because 1046 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 2: it was too short. And he still loved me, but 1047 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,720 Speaker 2: that shit was bald for like at least two months. 1048 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 3: So now I go to the hairdresser. 1049 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 4: I'm so happy that you finally started doing going to 1050 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 4: the hairdresser, because for a good part of our first 1051 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 4: four years of friendship, you were like I do my 1052 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 4: own hair. I cut my own hair. I do my 1053 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 4: own hair. 1054 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: I did it all. I did it all. 1055 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 4: Go get your hair done. 1056 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 3: Tell me I wasn't a professional hairstylist. Why was I 1057 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 3: cutting my own hair. 1058 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you were doing okay, but like, you know, 1059 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 4: it looks better now that you actually went and got 1060 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 4: it professionally done. You know, it's like a little there 1061 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 4: was a little helmet action sometimes looking a little helmety 1062 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 4: at times. 1063 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, you gonna you're gonna You're gonna be 1064 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 2: easy on my hairstyle. 1065 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 4: The helmet daser over because you stopped going to super Cuts. 1066 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 4: And I'm just kidding. 1067 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 3: I did go to Supercuts a couple of times. 1068 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 2: I was like, just cut it. I can do the rest. 1069 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 2: I know you're dead. 1070 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 4: I was like, bitch, if you go to Fantastic Sam's. 1071 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 2: When we're having short hair is a commitment. You have 1072 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 2: to either keep it cut, you have to keep it done. 1073 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 2: Like there's no ponytails. If I could have a pony tail, 1074 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 2: i'd be fine. It's just it doesn't exist. 1075 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 4: Okay, Now I'm slight. 1076 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at this at all. Actually, I told 1077 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 2: you nice, you're going for it. 1078 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 4: I see you over there, you keep smoking it. 1079 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 2: Okay, backwoods I want to go to I want to 1080 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 2: go to the Dominican Republic and go on a backwoods tour. Okay, backwards. Hello, 1081 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 2: it's me Mila Mapp. If you hear this, I'm trying 1082 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 2: to get to the dr and go to the farm 1083 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 2: and see what's going on there. I've never been to 1084 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 2: a tobacco farm. So send the. 1085 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 4: Invite, ignore that, ignore her. She's fine, she's going upstairs. 1086 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 2: Got this? 1087 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 4: Okay, So this backward? What am I smoking? Because it 1088 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 4: was a backwood cemetery. I don't even know which one 1089 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 4: it came from at this point. 1090 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 3: I think it looks like Aromatic or something. 1091 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the la Aromatic, which is my favorite 1092 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 4: backwood Actually this one. 1093 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 2: You know, I think that we need to spend more time. 1094 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 2: Do we need to have like a cigar bar meetup? 1095 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 2: I feel like that'd be sexy. Also, if anybody's listening 1096 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,720 Speaker 2: in their single, the cigar bars is where those older, 1097 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 2: more distinguished sugar daddies are at the One time I 1098 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 2: went to a cigar bar with Ashley a La, the 1099 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 2: old niggas were on me. 1100 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just my m O. In general, older 1101 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 3: niggas love me. 1102 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 2: But ladies, this cigar bar is where it's at if 1103 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 2: you like a little salt and pepper, silver fox and 1104 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 2: they usually have jobs. Hm hm. 1105 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 4: Anyway, now that I've smoked, I've cried, I've smoke, I'm smoking. 1106 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 4: What a day you. 1107 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 2: Came at my? My helmet hair from two thousand and 1108 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 2: fucking fifteen? What else? 1109 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 3: What else is on the agenda? 1110 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 4: I was on the internet perusing through the podcasting scoope 1111 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 4: and I happened to fall upon this clip. It's with 1112 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 4: the podcast with Paul Pierce and Azar. Shout out to Azar, 1113 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 4: she's been at good Good Media before. Why is this 1114 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 4: not staying? Let I actually know it's our sister, and 1115 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 4: they're so different. Actually they're not that different. They're kind 1116 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 4: of the same. They just they look different. 1117 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 3: But the clip, I fucking hate Paul Pierce. 1118 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 2: I don't hate him because I don't know him personally, 1119 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 2: but the five clips that I've seen and his opinions 1120 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 2: are never hitting. 1121 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 4: So let's just play the clip. Let's play the clip 1122 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 4: so people can know what we're talking about. 1123 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 3: Did you want I'm about to revisit it right the 1124 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 3: funck now? 1125 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? Go ahead and rewatch it? 1126 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 2: Wait? Where did it go? 1127 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 3: Instagram? 1128 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 2: A right here it is. 1129 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 6: Are you men who stand up? Men who go out 1130 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 6: there and put your elbow into making a woman make 1131 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 6: sure she's straight and hard working and respectable, chest up, 1132 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 6: checking out men? And you really on the grind and 1133 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 6: you really got ambition. M leave these little pretty girls alone, bro, 1134 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 6: they don't put their elbow in there. I'm gonna keep 1135 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 6: it one hundred over there looking at Oh she bad, 1136 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 6: Oh look at her Instagram? Oh she an shell. I'll 1137 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 6: get you a five or six. Who's gonna put some 1138 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 6: elbow into it? Ain't gonna be down for you on 1139 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 6: some one hundred. 1140 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1141 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 6: They gonna look at you like, why are you with her? 1142 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 6: Don't worry about while with her, because she's gonna do 1143 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 6: everything you ain't doing. Fellas like, man, forget all that 1144 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 6: how you around her? 1145 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 2: Now? 1146 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 5: She ain't. 1147 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 3: She ain't got no substance to her now, she got 1148 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 3: no s sence because she's pretty. 1149 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 2: So basically, he's alluding to the fact that pretty girls 1150 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 2: don't think they have to work hard in a relationship. 1151 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 4: What pretty goala hurt you, Paul? 1152 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 2: What that's my next Google Paul Pierce's ex wife, because 1153 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure she's a baddie and she probably took a 1154 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 2: lot of his money, as she should have. You know, 1155 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 2: first of all, this is disrespectful to all women. 1156 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 4: And I think when he's re Landrum. They divorced in 1157 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. This may only been single four seconds. 1158 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 4: Julie is cute, Of course she is. That's why he 1159 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 4: feels that way now, Julie, Julie looked like she was 1160 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 4: She wasn't even outside like that. Okay, she was probably 1161 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 4: probably a lawyer or some shit. Look at Julie. 1162 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she is cute. He looks too smart to 1163 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 2: be with the fuckery, is what the problem is. They 1164 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 2: don't want smart bitches. They don't want bitches who have 1165 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 2: a clue, because as soon as I have a clue, 1166 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna know you're on some bullshit and you're gonna 1167 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 2: have to be accountable, and that would just be too 1168 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 2: motherfucking hard. 1169 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 3: And I think that's really what he's saying. 1170 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 4: And you know, I honestly he's been married for thirteen years. 1171 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 4: This man got divorced in twenty twenty three. Granted I 1172 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 4: don't know when they broke up. Maybe they broke up 1173 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 4: in two that the twenty twenties. I don't know, but 1174 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 4: obviously you probably want on your whole face. Okay, let's 1175 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 4: just be honest, Paul. You broke up with Julie Gott 1176 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 4: with Forrest. 1177 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 2: What on another clip? I just when you said that 1178 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 2: just reminded me. On another clip that I saw, this 1179 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 2: is the one that pissed me off. He said that 1180 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 2: his homeboy said that his side bitch is the one 1181 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 2: who told him to say with his wife. He said, 1182 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 2: his side bitch is the one who kept him married 1183 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 2: for ten years because the side bitch was rooting for 1184 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 2: the wife. And I'm so basically that it's good to 1185 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 2: have a side bitch because he comes home. 1186 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 4: Don't how about fellas, don't take any advice from this man. 1187 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 4: That should tell you enough. Okay, Like, what are you 1188 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 4: talking about? First of all, you got divorced, probably started 1189 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 4: dating a bunch of girls that probably aren't very smart, 1190 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 4: because by design, I think a lot of men prefer 1191 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 4: men women that are not very smart because then they 1192 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 4: can control them and they just get what they want. 1193 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 4: So you're it's like, it's like what men always say 1194 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 4: to women, like it's who you chose, You chose them, 1195 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 4: You chose them, nigga, you chose her. 1196 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 1197 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Because there's niggas love to tell us we chose our 1198 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 2: baby daddy, we chose them, and then but you chose, 1199 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 2: you choose women and then cheat on him. 1200 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 4: So what in the man is that just like a 1201 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 4: five nigga will break your heart, A five bitch will 1202 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 4: still break your heart. Nigga, I can't wait for you 1203 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 4: to find out. Go ahead, go get you a five 1204 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 4: or six? 1205 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 2: Go ahead, baby, He's but he's basically saying that, in 1206 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 2: his opinion, whoever he thinks which beauty is relative, whoever 1207 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 2: he thinks is a five or six, is going to 1208 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 2: be so happy to have his ass that they are 1209 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 2: going to just polish shoes, cook dinner, white ass. I 1210 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 2: don't know what, you know, what I really want to know. 1211 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 2: This is like a this is a public question. I 1212 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 2: want to know in today's society, what is it that 1213 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 2: men like outside of submitting, because that's a very general thing. 1214 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 2: What do men think that women like? What is he 1215 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 2: what does he want us to put elbow like? How 1216 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 2: do we put elbow grease like? What does that mean 1217 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 2: to him? 1218 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 4: Like? 1219 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 2: Suck extra dick, like full all the clothes, Like is 1220 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 2: it the domestic role? 1221 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 3: Like not going out? 1222 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 4: It sounds like hard labor. 1223 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like so that's what I want to know, Like 1224 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 2: do they expect us to like is it like is 1225 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 2: it like the domestic thing? They don't think like these 1226 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 2: new modern numbers domestic. We don't cook, win unclean, we're 1227 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 2: not taking care of the children. We just want to 1228 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 2: be in the streets. Like I'm really wondering what this 1229 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 2: means because there's so many like gender wars. I'm really 1230 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 2: so fucking sick of hearing about the shit Like we 1231 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 2: need each other, we love each other, we'd be fucking 1232 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 2: on each other. Remind us I see, Like I feel 1233 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 2: like men like this are men who have this mentality 1234 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna get replaced with AI. 1235 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 4: But also like we're putting our value on how you, Paul, 1236 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 4: are all still putting value on like how a woman looks? 1237 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Like there's no like 1238 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 4: what is a five or six? A five or six 1239 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 4: and looks a five or six in her career? A 1240 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 4: five or six? What what scope of five or six? 1241 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 4: We're just talking about pretty bitches. I guess he did 1242 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 4: say pretty bitches. So we think that if we get 1243 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 4: a less attractive person, she's going to be smarter because 1244 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 4: pretty people are not intelligent. 1245 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 3: No, not smarter. 1246 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 2: She said they're gonna put elbow grease. He didn't say, Hey, 1247 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 2: they don't want smart women. That is the problem. Men 1248 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 2: don't want partners. If you pick a partner, when you 1249 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 2: pick a business partner, you want someone let's smart. 1250 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 4: Let's not let's not generalize men. We just said, we 1251 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 4: said we're not going to drive. 1252 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 3: I said, men with this, men with this mentality, this mentality. Yeah, yeah, sure, 1253 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 3: Men with this. 1254 01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 2: Mentality prefer women who or not thinking because then they 1255 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 2: can get away with doing over the fuck. They want 1256 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 2: men who with this mentality that are in or on 1257 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 2: the social media fucking going hard about the submission. And 1258 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 2: even that one very cringey clip about that guy on 1259 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 2: that God podcast saying he prefers to date younger women 1260 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 2: because older women don't listen, baby, you want someone with 1261 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 2: less experience that you can get over on. 1262 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 3: And to me, that is questionable, like why would one 1263 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 3: pick a partner. 1264 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 2: It's like if we're playing fucking volleyball and I get 1265 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 2: to pick my team and I pick the fucking dumbest ones. 1266 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 2: Or if I'm in the science bawl and I'm gonna 1267 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 2: pick my team for the fucking end of the year project, 1268 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick the dumb like the people who don't study, 1269 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 2: who don't show up to class. 1270 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense. If you want to build a. 1271 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 2: Strong family aka team, you're gonna pick the strongest players, 1272 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 2: the smartest players, with the most strategy, with the most 1273 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,439 Speaker 2: power forward. I don't know if you're trying to speak 1274 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 2: in your language. I don't really know this language, but 1275 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 2: I'm trying here. You're gonna pick the d one picks 1276 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 2: at the top schools, right the best athletic abilities. If 1277 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna go to the checker fucking tournament, you're gonna 1278 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 2: pick the best strategy, the best checker players. 1279 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 3: Why in the fuck do men go on these podcasts 1280 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 3: a lot of. 1281 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 2: Men, not all of them, and then rally behind wanting 1282 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 2: women that are just submissive or are basically not smart. 1283 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 2: You're asking for women to not have an opinion and 1284 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 2: to not say shit and to follow you blindly because 1285 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 2: you don't value our input, and so you would prefer 1286 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 2: to be with women who don't ask any questions. But 1287 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 2: if nobody's asking questions, you don't want someone to question you. 1288 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 2: And like you don't want a strong family, you want 1289 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 2: a weak ass bitch because you don't want to be questioned. 1290 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 2: And any good democracy, any strong kingdom, is going to 1291 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 2: have a board to collectively discuss the issues at hand, 1292 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 2: because every king, every kingdom needs what is the right 1293 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 2: hand man in fucking King of Thrones? No, no, the squad, 1294 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 2: the nigga, you know, the right or the queen or 1295 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 2: the council. This is just a relative thing to say, Hey, 1296 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 2: I am the king and I am the queen, but 1297 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: I might I need input from the smartest motherfucker's up 1298 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 2: in this village? What's up? 1299 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna pick the smartest partner. 1300 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 2: If men don't want strong if you want to a 1301 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 2: strong family, a strong lineage with the best players, you're 1302 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 2: going to pick the best leads. And if you keep 1303 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 2: saying publicly, I'm going to assume you want you you 1304 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 2: want a weak ass family. Doesn't make any sense. 1305 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 4: It's just like I think there's a level. I think 1306 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 4: most men say they believe that they're kings, but most 1307 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 4: men don't even know what they would define a king. 1308 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 1: To be. 1309 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 4: So it's just something that people embody through the alpha male, 1310 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 4: or they think they're embodying through this title of being 1311 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 4: an alpha male, which is a lot of which is 1312 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 4: an associated so much a topic whatever fucking words around 1313 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 4: that we've made up. You know, it's just do you 1314 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 4: want the Kingdom? 1315 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 3: Do you even know? 1316 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 4: Do you even believe that you come from the kingdom? 1317 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 4: Do you even believe? Do you understand? Like no, the 1318 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 4: answer is no. 1319 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 2: And it's it's true because when you talk about leading, 1320 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 2: and you talk about submission and you talk about these things, 1321 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 2: they like, what is your plan for your family? 1322 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 3: What is it that you want? 1323 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 2: Because I know. 1324 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 4: Because they're rarely worried about what we bring to the table, 1325 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 4: very much worried about what's happening over here in our kitchen. 1326 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, meanwhile, their version of kingdom is dropping a bunch 1327 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 2: of sperm off into different bitches without having to commit 1328 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 2: to any of them and setting that example for their 1329 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 2: the princes and the princesses of the kingdom. 1330 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 3: So what does that say? 1331 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 2: And like, this brings me to our other clip that 1332 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 2: I saw this week on the fucking internet, which was 1333 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting because we it was on 1334 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,639 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club and they ask Sierra how does she feel 1335 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 2: about people on social media calling Russell Wilson a simp 1336 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 2: or a lame or corny, and she was like, I 1337 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 2: don't think. 1338 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 3: Should have it because who's saying it, and it's true. 1339 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize what a loser you have 1340 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 2: to be to criticize a man taking care of. 1341 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 3: His family and being a great dad, He's a simp. 1342 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,839 Speaker 2: You don't want another niggas showing other niggas the example 1343 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 2: of what a good father and husband look like, because 1344 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 2: you want the bar to be in hell still because 1345 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 2: that's where you thrive. 1346 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 3: And so you don't even know what the fuck. 1347 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 2: It means to lead and to be a king and 1348 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 2: to have a lineage that is strong because you're over 1349 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,560 Speaker 2: here criticizing the man that's doing it. 1350 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 4: No, No, I loved her answer. I loved her answer. 1351 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 4: She's I love Sierra. I'm like, I've always liked Sierra, 1352 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 4: but I think I'm a a season of loving Sierra. 1353 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 4: I just think that she has like she's been. She's like, 1354 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 4: first of all, she is stuck around. Okay, should you 1355 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 4: say what you want about Sierra? That bitch got hits okay, 1356 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 4: and she just leads with so much integrity. 1357 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's always you know what she does the Michelle 1358 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 2: Obama thing. She doesn't go low, she goes hi. She's 1359 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 2: just class. 1360 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it feels very genuine, you know. And it's like, 1361 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 4: I think that's why she's had the career that she's had, 1362 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,640 Speaker 4: Like whether or not she's had the hit or not 1363 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 4: or didn't have to hit, like, she's always been able 1364 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,600 Speaker 4: to be invited, you know, she's always been there, and 1365 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 4: I think it's been so vulnerable about her journey. You know, 1366 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,640 Speaker 4: she's made bad mistake Sierra and fucking Future well, I 1367 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 4: can't even I don't like that that who is that Sierra? 1368 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 4: But you know, like that's the other side of her. 1369 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,599 Speaker 2: But but she's from Atlanta, you know, she's from Atlanta. 1370 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 2: But I think that's also important to look at. Like 1371 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 2: we niggas praise Future fucking Nevade Nevedas or whatever the fuck. 1372 01:10:58,920 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 3: His name is. 1373 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 2: They love the Tavious. They follow him blindly, everything sip 1374 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 2: the syrup drop off. He has like nine kids by 1375 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 2: nine different women, And like, I'm not Jesus, I'm not 1376 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 2: here to judge. But the point is, you fucking rally 1377 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:19,560 Speaker 2: behind that shit, sipping syrup, nodding off and having a 1378 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 2: bunch of kids by different women. But then you see 1379 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 2: a man who comes and takes care of his children, 1380 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 2: is president in their children's lives, takes care of his wife, 1381 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 2: and is taking care of the child of somebody else, 1382 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 2: And that's who you criticize. That is something we have 1383 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 2: to collectively look at at as a society because that's wild. 1384 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 2: Obviously the men have gotten not all men, but a 1385 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 2: lot of the men, and unfortunately a lot of the 1386 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 2: young men have gotten this. This ps that got this 1387 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 2: memo that hating women and like leading a strong household 1388 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,200 Speaker 2: is in some ways negative, and. 1389 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 3: That's wild as hell. 1390 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 4: It's corny. 1391 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 3: That's fucking corny crazy. It's so corny. 1392 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 2: And also it's like when I think about the gender 1393 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 2: wars and all these things, you know, like Orlando's very 1394 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 2: proud to be a husband, Like He's like, I've always 1395 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 2: wanted to be a husband. This is really important to me. 1396 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 2: He's like, I really my goal is to like have 1397 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 2: like watch my grandkids play. I don't think I've never 1398 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 2: heard a nigga ever say no shit like that, Like 1399 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that, you know what I mean? 1400 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,560 Speaker 2: And I think because we don't see a lot of 1401 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 2: examples of men saying those type of things publicly, like 1402 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 2: I've really like Orlando is a whore from whore Island. 1403 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 3: Of course he's been, you know, in the streets, but 1404 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 3: he's also been very. 1405 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Clear about wanting to be a husband and wanting to 1406 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 2: be a father, and like when he came into our 1407 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 2: lives in a very uncomfortable way, he was like, I'm 1408 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 2: i'm my daughter, Like I'm taking this role on very 1409 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 2: seriously as a stepfather and as like I know that 1410 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 2: we're growing into something. 1411 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,639 Speaker 3: And that made me be like, oh shit. 1412 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 2: First of all, I was like this nigga's a little crazy, 1413 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 2: and also maybe be like, okay, what does that mean 1414 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 2: to me? But so often we don't hear men have 1415 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 2: pride in these roles that it doesn't trigger us to 1416 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 2: have to think about what it means to be a wife. 1417 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,679 Speaker 2: And I'm just saying that, And this is as someone 1418 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 2: who I did want to be married. I did as 1419 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 2: a little girl, I wanted to be married, and I'd 1420 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 2: like I had this idea, but I very rarely heard 1421 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 2: men say that, and so it's taken me until I'm 1422 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 2: actually like coming into this place to be like, shit, what. 1423 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 3: Does it mean to be a good wife? 1424 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 2: Like like how do I pour back into this person 1425 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 2: that values me and values my our relationships so much 1426 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 2: and that I mirror it? And to be honest, it's 1427 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 2: kind of like intimidating sometimes because I'm like, fuck, I 1428 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 2: didn't study, I didn't read the book because I was 1429 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 2: so I was banking on niggas nigging because that's what 1430 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 2: I've seen, even the example of the man in my 1431 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 2: own household who I love and adored and has always 1432 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 2: been a present father. My dad's always been in my life, 1433 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 2: always lived in my household. 1434 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 4: But did he do some. 1435 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 3: Functionhit of course, and did they breed trust issues? Obviously? 1436 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 2: And my dad is someone who values marriage and being 1437 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 2: a father, but his actions didn't always look that way. 1438 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 2: So it didn't like I'm not one of those people 1439 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 2: who's like when I heard Cam Newton's baby Mama go 1440 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,440 Speaker 2: on Shamboo Drim Show and say how much she like spoils, 1441 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,600 Speaker 2: how spoiled her man is, it made me cringe And 1442 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 2: then you're like, I don't think so, And I was like, damn, 1443 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 2: am I a bitch? 1444 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 3: Why does that make me cringe? 1445 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,120 Speaker 2: And I realize I feel resentment, a lot of resentment 1446 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 2: towards men because they don't show up in a way 1447 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 2: that has cared for us, and especially black men to 1448 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,640 Speaker 2: black women. And I'm probably looking at the comments too 1449 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 2: often and seeing all the losers comment. I have to 1450 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 2: also know that. But I'm realizing, like hearing men say 1451 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 2: positive things about marriage, about their women, about their families 1452 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 2: is really important for the leading for us to assume 1453 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 2: our position. And I'm realizing that now, like I'm thankful 1454 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,799 Speaker 2: for men like Russell. I'm thankful for men like Orlando, 1455 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 2: you know, so that I know, like, oh, it's okay 1456 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,559 Speaker 2: to take pride in this role when you're being taken 1457 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 2: care of and this is what it looks like. And 1458 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 2: so I just, yeah, shout out to Russell for being 1459 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 2: the best stepdaddy on the internet and making these nigga 1460 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 2: step out of their game instead of thinking that taking 1461 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 2: care of somebody else's kids is lame and whack. 1462 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think that I think he's I think 1463 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 4: men feel very intimidated by It's like it's like a 1464 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 4: mirror when you see a man, and Russell's so unbothered too. 1465 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 4: Like he's he's so unbothered, he's just wearing his sunglasses, 1466 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 4: you know, with his little fine self. So fine are 1467 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 4: living their fucking life, and I would I understand why 1468 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 4: they're mad. They're mad, you know, and you do have 1469 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 4: to be careful who who the messenger is important. That's 1470 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 4: why she said, like who said it? Who's saying? 1471 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 3: What household did they grow up in? 1472 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:50,640 Speaker 1: What? What? 1473 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 2: What example of love have they received? And so yeah, 1474 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 2: like if you haven't had a loving household or a 1475 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,200 Speaker 2: loving father, of course you're going to reject the idea 1476 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,760 Speaker 2: of what that looks like and think it's some corn 1477 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 2: ball shaite because you're following fat you're following fucking the 1478 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 2: Tavis and the trap boy on the corner or some 1479 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 2: rapper nigga that it's also been neglected and it is 1480 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 2: craving love and is wounded. 1481 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 3: So it's just wounded wounded leaders and wounded soldiers all 1482 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 3: fucking following each other. And that's problematic. 1483 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what else is problematic? Moving on to 1484 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 4: our our last topic because we gotta go, But I'm 1485 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 4: here to say, do I need we need like a 1486 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 4: donkey of the day on fucking good moments? 1487 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 3: What we can what would they be called? 1488 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know, the bad, bad for real? 1489 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is actually bad. 1490 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 3: So what will our donkey of the day be called? 1491 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,280 Speaker 4: This is actually bad? 1492 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, bad for real? Okay, bad for real, bad for real. 1493 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 2: This is bad for real, no for real? Okay, so 1494 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 2: this is bad, like for real, for real? This is 1495 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 2: this is bad. 1496 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:04,480 Speaker 4: I'm disappointed. 1497 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:05,080 Speaker 2: I really am. 1498 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna front I. You know, I kind 1499 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 4: of thought there was something going on, something a little 1500 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 4: off when she married the white man. Okay, I was like, 1501 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 4: but he seemed joyful and jolly, so I you know, 1502 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,799 Speaker 4: I was like, enrich as fuck. So I said, okay, 1503 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 4: all right, maybe maybe he's like the cool white nerd 1504 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 4: from you know that you could hang out with at 1505 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 4: the party at the keegar that the keegar. Then she 1506 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 4: started playing with her face and I was like, what 1507 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 4: are you doing? What's happening? Is there an identity thing 1508 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 4: going on? 1509 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 2: Like what are you're beautiful? 1510 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,640 Speaker 4: Or I know this woman also has been highly critiqued, 1511 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 4: highly critiqued. Okay, she is like at the highest level. 1512 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 4: And this is because this is actually bad. It's not 1513 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 4: the donkey the day. I'm just saying this is actually bad. 1514 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:58,440 Speaker 4: I think that nothing could take away the the incredible 1515 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 4: accomplishments and who she is to black people period. I 1516 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:08,679 Speaker 4: just want to say that, including myself. But unfortunately Serena 1517 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 4: Williams is now a spokesperson for a weight loss drug 1518 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,879 Speaker 4: that you inject into your body that's basically like ozembic. 1519 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 4: It's called a GLP one or some shit and which 1520 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 4: sounds like the date rape drug just FYI to me, 1521 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 4: which is why it probably is like feels even more 1522 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,000 Speaker 4: gross in my mind. And I just feel like this 1523 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 4: is so irresponsible as just someone with so much influence 1524 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 4: and who has like rose to the ranks, the highest 1525 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,600 Speaker 4: ranks in athleticism in. 1526 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 2: Just like she's she's like. 1527 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 4: A fucking gladiator gladiatress. And I just think that like 1528 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 4: so many people look up to her, young girls look 1529 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,560 Speaker 4: up to her, like I just she has millions of 1530 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,440 Speaker 4: dollars she can take this medicine and like be monitored 1531 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 4: and make sure everything's going well. People are gonna start 1532 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,679 Speaker 4: injecting themselves this weight loss thing, which they've already started 1533 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,680 Speaker 4: to be get do in general, but we've never had 1534 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,680 Speaker 4: a black woman come out as a spokesperson for this 1535 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,560 Speaker 4: type of weight loss stuff. We've seen Oprah. You know 1536 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 4: she did weight watch? Was it weight Watchers? Was Oprah 1537 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 4: weight Watchers? 1538 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1539 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 2: For years I'd say, yeah, I forgot about that. Weight 1540 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,560 Speaker 2: Watchers was just like a diet, but that was just 1541 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 2: shake yeah. Yeah. 1542 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 4: But this is like we're putting we're putting things into 1543 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,600 Speaker 4: our body that are not even for us, but for 1544 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 4: people with like other health conditions. I mean that you 1545 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 4: can repackage it and change up the ingredients here and there, 1546 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 4: but let's be honest, like this is for something else. 1547 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:42,040 Speaker 4: And I'm just disappointed. I'm disappointed in Serena. I'm worried 1548 01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 4: about what this is already doing. And the reason why 1549 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,720 Speaker 4: I'm disappointed too is because then I learned that her 1550 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,600 Speaker 4: husband is on the board of this company that she 1551 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 4: is advertising for that has made has gotten her to 1552 01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,599 Speaker 4: lose all this weight that she said she was struggling 1553 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 4: to lose with of course, after having a baby and 1554 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 4: still working out like three times a day, training playing 1555 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 4: in like the US Open, and still not being able 1556 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 4: to get to the weight that she wanted. 1557 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 2: But she was never at that weight. 1558 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 4: That was not her body. We've never seen her at 1559 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 4: that weight, even in her prime, in her youngest years, 1560 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 4: Like she's like thin. 1561 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 2: Now I have to go look. I saw the advertise, 1562 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 2: I saw her talking about it. I was a little 1563 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 2: bit surprised too. 1564 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 4: I was shocked. 1565 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:33,639 Speaker 2: I think it's very you could be very, very cautious 1566 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 2: about endorsing medical anything because we all have different bodies 1567 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 2: and react differently. 1568 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 3: And we all know that ozempic is getting hit. 1569 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 2: With a lot of lawsuits, like a billion dollars both 1570 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 2: of lawsuits because of side effects. And I also it's 1571 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:51,479 Speaker 2: again we have to look at society and like how 1572 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 2: much pressure we put on women, like for the sake 1573 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 2: of vanity and like not loving ourselves as is. And 1574 01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,680 Speaker 2: I know, blah blah blah. I'm ninety eight pounds, you know, 1575 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 2: but I could. I want to be thicker. But what 1576 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go get ass injected in Colombia because 1577 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,560 Speaker 2: this is the body God gave me. I have a 1578 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,760 Speaker 2: big problem with. Recently, we discovered that somebody that used 1579 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,800 Speaker 2: to be our friend, who's always. 1580 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,800 Speaker 3: Meaning yesterday, No, it's been about five months. 1581 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 4: You knew for five months. 1582 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no no oh yeah recently, no, 1583 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 2: I knew it for a couple of weeks. I thought 1584 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 2: I told you, I thought we stopped being friends. Wait, 1585 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 2: this is new, like this is a new thing that 1586 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 2: just happened. No, this has been happened. 1587 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I thought. Okay, I'm sorry. 1588 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 2: I just I just found out that a friend, an 1589 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 2: old ex friend of ours, who's always working out in 1590 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 2: the gym and like promoting working out, has a BBL. Okay, 1591 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,360 Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't give a fuck about you 1592 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,679 Speaker 2: getting a BBL. I live in LA. Everybody has fake 1593 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,280 Speaker 2: boobs and fake shit and does a little Okay. I 1594 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,720 Speaker 2: realized that to each its own. However, when you were 1595 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 2: promoting health and wellness and talking about you doing squats 1596 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,160 Speaker 2: and you got that ass from squats and I'm over 1597 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 2: here doing the squats and it's not coming in that way, 1598 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be confused. 1599 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 3: So I think that is problematic, and she's being honest 1600 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 3: about it. 1601 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 2: But I just yeah, and I honestly, I've I feel 1602 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 2: really sad because I know how criticized she's been, and 1603 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,639 Speaker 2: you know, just as like a dark skin, brown skin, 1604 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 2: black woman, just the how difficult it is to be 1605 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 2: in the spotlight and to be in Hollywood and to 1606 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 2: be in these spaces, and like they've always criticized her, 1607 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,880 Speaker 2: her body, her ass. They tried to make it seem 1608 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,800 Speaker 2: like she couldn't wear the tennis skirm. Everybody else's worried 1609 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 2: because baby, this is this is a black woman's body. 1610 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 2: I mean not mine specifically, but I'm just saying like 1611 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 2: everybody has a different shape and size and color, and 1612 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 2: they we're all beautiful on our own right. 1613 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 3: And like for black women, dark skinned black women. 1614 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 2: Specifically, hair type, lips, all these things that people run 1615 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 2: out and go get to fucking mimic us we are 1616 01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 2: criticized for. And this person has been criticized so deeply. 1617 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:01,559 Speaker 2: Buy it her own people. 1618 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 4: How people? Yeah, I think it's like I feel like 1619 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 4: we need to call in a prayer for a serena 1620 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 4: for real, because I feel like, like so much of 1621 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,479 Speaker 4: this because I'm thinking just about I can't like her 1622 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,160 Speaker 4: blonde hair. I'm like, there's a lot of. 1623 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 3: Like, well but I understand, I understand it. I understand 1624 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 3: I have blonde hair. 1625 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 4: To right, right, but but I just I just mean, like, 1626 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 4: as I'm looking at her, I don't know, I feel 1627 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 4: this like energy of like how could you not be insecure, 1628 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 4: how like I would be insecure. Shit I matter how 1629 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 4: to god a no's job or did a lot of 1630 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 4: other shit. Well she did, but like I would probably 1631 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 4: succumb to the pressure too. You know, yeah, she's human, 1632 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 4: and you know my only thing is though that. But 1633 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 4: you don't need to promote this, Just go do it. 1634 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 4: Then we don't need to know that what you did. 1635 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,439 Speaker 4: No one asked bitch, she lost this weight like one 1636 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 4: year ago. We were moved on already, Like. 1637 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 2: But okay, what if your nigga had a business and 1638 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 2: he was like, yo, if you've been taking. 1639 01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,720 Speaker 4: It, I would know this, but I would understand the 1640 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 4: way of the responsibility that I hold, the power that 1641 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 4: I yield, the repercussions that this medicine could have on 1642 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 4: someone who's young, who doesn't have like the doctors that 1643 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 4: are going to make sure that she doesn't have her 1644 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,400 Speaker 4: any underlying conditions of any sort, like. 1645 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 2: I just don't. 1646 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 4: And also the fact that like, as women, we already 1647 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,479 Speaker 4: carry so much shame around the way our body looks, 1648 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 4: and that we must be smaller, Like why did she 1649 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,519 Speaker 4: need to be smaller? Was she unhealthy? Like why was 1650 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,519 Speaker 4: it that she needed to go down to this weight 1651 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,800 Speaker 4: I understand, Like was it just for her own comfortability 1652 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 4: because she'd never been at that weight before, Like she'd 1653 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 4: always this has been her hopes. 1654 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,639 Speaker 2: And dreams to be Some people are not just made 1655 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:38,759 Speaker 2: or not made skinny. 1656 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 3: It's just every a lot like. 1657 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 2: You, no, a lot of people. 1658 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 4: The reason why she is a superb athlete is because 1659 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 4: of the strength and body mass that she yields, you 1660 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like there's that she's Our bodies 1661 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 4: are what they are, And I just feel like this 1662 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,560 Speaker 4: is really bad. This is bad for real, because I 1663 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,800 Speaker 4: just I'm worried and I'm concerned. There's already so much 1664 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 4: that our kids are gonna see on the internet every day, right, 1665 01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 4: that's gonna like beat at them. But like I feel 1666 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,759 Speaker 4: like she is gold. She's like she's the gold standard 1667 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,680 Speaker 4: in so many ways, so inspirational, and I don't know, 1668 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 4: I just I'm worried. I'm concerned. 1669 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 3: She must be getting a big kickback from this endorsement. 1670 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,240 Speaker 4: Which of course she is, duh. Her husband's on the board, 1671 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 4: I just told you, and she's Serena. She doesn't take 1672 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 4: a fucking endorsement deal under fucking five million dollars. I'm sure, 1673 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 4: maybe more like that's the that's the level of excellence 1674 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,760 Speaker 4: that she's at, like and demands and people give to 1675 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 4: her as a black woman. That's why I'm like, why 1676 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 4: you don't even need this? 1677 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,200 Speaker 2: You're rich. 1678 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:50,719 Speaker 4: Your husband invented snapchat? Like what do you Oh I did, yes, yes, 1679 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,639 Speaker 4: he's one of the co founders of Snapchat. You didn't 1680 01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 4: need this check Like what the fuck are you doing? 1681 01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 4: Just shut up and take your medicine, get skinny, and 1682 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 4: don't tell us about it like everybody else, like everyone else, 1683 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 4: Like what the fuck I'm not telling everyone? Like oh 1684 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 4: I got botox and I want to be the phrase 1685 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,759 Speaker 4: of bo talks like I barely want to fucking post 1686 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 4: my doctor if she's gonna give me a discount, like shit, 1687 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 4: like can we make it something else? 1688 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 2: It's me getting a facial, yes, facial me. Well, this 1689 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 2: is the world and much we live in and welcome 1690 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,840 Speaker 2: to it. I'm struggling every day to exist here. But 1691 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 2: apparently I'm supposed to be in this time and this time. 1692 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 4: So I thought about that. I was like, wonder why 1693 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 4: God chose me to be here at this time time, 1694 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,679 Speaker 4: all this shit going on so specific, Like why didn't 1695 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,400 Speaker 4: I get to skip this one, like why not the 1696 01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:43,920 Speaker 4: next one? 1697 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 2: Well, and you know what it is. They're every single 1698 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 2: soul who's here at this time. There is a reason 1699 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 2: we're we're supposed to fight against the machine. 1700 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:55,639 Speaker 3: We have what it takes. 1701 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 2: We're here in this time because there is something that 1702 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,800 Speaker 2: we are supposed to birth that is supposed to shift it. 1703 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 2: And I want you guys to remember that what is 1704 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 2: inside of you that is supposed to be shifting and 1705 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 2: you know, pushing this society forward. It's definitely not endorsing 1706 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,200 Speaker 2: GBLK or whatever the fuck, but there's something there and 1707 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 2: that's how we know we have the strength and the tenacity. 1708 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,400 Speaker 2: I hope that's the right word to exist in this 1709 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:31,840 Speaker 2: time amongst war and crime, and hate and self hate 1710 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,960 Speaker 2: and highly highly criticized and shallowness and ignorance. 1711 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 4: That's why we have to it's more important than ever 1712 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 4: that we take care of ourselves, that we lean into love, help, 1713 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 4: the healing, the love, the connectedness to one another. We 1714 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 4: have got to we need to connect like we've got 1715 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 4: to connect. We've got to stay connected. There trying to disconnect. 1716 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:58,680 Speaker 2: Us, especially with AI truly, I you know, like. 1717 01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,440 Speaker 4: It's it's we have to still go to the functions. 1718 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 4: We have to call our friends in human and not 1719 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 4: just fucking text each other. We got to get our 1720 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,560 Speaker 4: kids off this shit because they're the future. They're the 1721 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,680 Speaker 4: ones that are gonna have to be able to be 1722 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,560 Speaker 4: soldiers like we're these Our children have got to be 1723 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,200 Speaker 4: like peaceful soldiers, right, but like no pressure. 1724 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,680 Speaker 2: But also yeah, I mean they have to know the 1725 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,640 Speaker 2: reality of what's actually going on, and like we have 1726 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 2: to live in the reality. But also yeah, from a 1727 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 2: loving space and go to the concert, do the art, 1728 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,800 Speaker 2: do the things that they're trying to replace us with, 1729 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,919 Speaker 2: and like you can't replace human connection and genuine creation. 1730 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 4: And like, yeah, I was gonna say I was having 1731 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 4: this thought about AI today because I've been used. I 1732 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 4: was so resistant to it for a really long time, 1733 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 4: and then I've been using it more and more lately, 1734 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 4: and then I've also been like staying abreast to like 1735 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,120 Speaker 4: how it's the destruction it's causing to our environment and 1736 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:59,600 Speaker 4: like real destruction, like bad. And also like how I 1737 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,680 Speaker 4: saw my baby daddy of like of course he like 1738 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 4: popped up on an article my phone today and he 1739 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,640 Speaker 4: was talking about and I didn't even consider this, like 1740 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 4: rappers using AI to write their raps, and how like 1741 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 4: the art of rapping is like its gonna be a 1742 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,719 Speaker 4: dying art form because there's these AI rappers coming. 1743 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 2: Through shut up AI wraps. 1744 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 4: Yes, bitch, I mean it makes sense. 1745 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,559 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I just didn't consider it me neither. 1746 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 4: But I'm also thinking, like, how how numb our brains 1747 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 4: are gonna go because we're not doing any critical thinking. 1748 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,479 Speaker 4: We have a thought and that's about it. We have 1749 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,639 Speaker 4: a thought and then we put the thought in chat 1750 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,519 Speaker 4: shept and then it expands the consciousness until we do 1751 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,840 Speaker 4: not have consciousness, until we're fucking just dumb bodies roaming 1752 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,680 Speaker 4: around the earth like fucking robots. 1753 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 2: And there's gonna be a hybrid. It's it's gonna it's 1754 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,440 Speaker 2: creating a human AI. 1755 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 4: Hybrid for real, and then they're gonna But that's why 1756 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 4: I feel like the aliens are waiting to see how 1757 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,560 Speaker 4: stupid we are. We gonna like be able to go 1758 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 4: into like these other higher intelligence are we gonna get 1759 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,800 Speaker 4: advised to the higher intelligence, party out and burned down 1760 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,760 Speaker 4: and start all over again, do the over and over. 1761 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 3: If I was the aliens, I wouldn't let us in 1762 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,680 Speaker 3: the laughing at us. 1763 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,080 Speaker 2: I would laugh at us too. 1764 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,760 Speaker 3: I'm laughing us and I'm in this bitch like these 1765 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:21,360 Speaker 3: niggas are. 1766 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 2: Damn. Trump the other day said he's changing stuff in 1767 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,680 Speaker 2: the museums at the Smithsonian Simsonian. 1768 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,120 Speaker 4: Wait, but wait, do you know why I'm too racist? No, 1769 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,360 Speaker 4: we said, talking about slavery. 1770 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 3: No, he said, because the America is the hottest country. 1771 01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:38,360 Speaker 3: And he won't let that. 1772 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. America's the hottest, the 1773 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,439 Speaker 2: hottest country. And why would we talk like this, like 1774 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,800 Speaker 2: we need to be more positive because America is the 1775 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 2: hottest country, the hottest So if you haven't heard, America's 1776 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 2: the hottest country. Bitches game with the program. So much 1777 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,000 Speaker 2: focus on slavery. 1778 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,400 Speaker 3: So much fogs on favery, Like, come on, we're the 1779 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:07,120 Speaker 3: hottest country. 1780 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:07,599 Speaker 2: Stop. 1781 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 4: We gotta remarket America. We gotta remarket. We're gonna make 1782 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,800 Speaker 4: it great again. And we're gonna remarket this bitch. We're 1783 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,080 Speaker 4: gonna raise slavery. 1784 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:15,720 Speaker 2: Delay it. 1785 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't look good on a reputation. Yeah, people are sealed. 1786 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,639 Speaker 4: It see slavery being sealed. 1787 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,680 Speaker 3: I mean, if he can do it, he's gonna do it. 1788 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 4: It's high thoughts. They're gonna, they're gonna slavery being sealed 1789 01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,000 Speaker 4: a big shield document and anyone knows it seemed. 1790 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 1: To be a movie. 1791 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,599 Speaker 4: They're burning book even though it ever existed. 1792 01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's a good movie. 1793 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 4: And then what I'm saying, where black people don't even 1794 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 4: know it existed, but they know their bodies are tellent 1795 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:44,479 Speaker 4: like reacting to think something. 1796 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 2: I mean, somewhere in the world black people, there's a 1797 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,880 Speaker 2: black person who doesn't really know about it. There's there's 1798 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:54,360 Speaker 2: black people our age right now who don't Did you 1799 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:59,680 Speaker 2: watch the Amaza Bitch in small doses? Because I was 1800 01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,840 Speaker 2: getting pissed the fuck off and that, and that's what 1801 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,920 Speaker 2: I mean. There are black people that exist right now 1802 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 2: that do not understand the severity of American history to 1803 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,519 Speaker 2: the African American history, and that is what that's what 1804 01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 2: they're trying to promote so that we think that black 1805 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,599 Speaker 2: people won't shut the fuck up about it, and it's 1806 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,639 Speaker 2: it wasn't that bad, and it advanced us, and everyone 1807 01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:25,759 Speaker 2: had slavery just like it everywhere, cattle slavery, No biggie, 1808 01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:26,839 Speaker 2: everybody relaxed. 1809 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 3: Keep comes the hottest country. 1810 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 2: We're fucked. Sorry, never mind being positive positivity. At this point, 1811 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 2: you might as well just like rock out with your 1812 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 2: balls out and go hard on the pleasure and like 1813 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 2: don't go too I mean, like don't kill yourself, but 1814 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,519 Speaker 2: just like have fun, bitches, because America is the hottest 1815 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 2: country and Slavery's files are getting sealed soon, So. 1816 01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 4: Get out one this one piece of advice. Guy. Guys, 1817 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,920 Speaker 4: if you don't stop buying land in America, stop trying 1818 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 4: to buy and own here, just start thinking big, bitch. 1819 01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 4: You gotta think big bitch. You know what I think 1820 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,280 Speaker 4: the aliens you're not even gonna be thinking big. You're 1821 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:20,200 Speaker 4: gonna like actually probably spend less money, get virtual, do 1822 01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 4: what you gotta do whatever, Only fans, TikTok. Just figure 1823 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 4: it out, figure out how you can. 1824 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,080 Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here, you know what. I 1825 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 2: just you know, I hadn't thought about this from an 1826 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:34,120 Speaker 2: economical standpoint before, but now with the recession on the 1827 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:39,600 Speaker 2: rise and America being the hottest country, only fans. I mean, like, 1828 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 2: if you're successful, like the sex industry might be the 1829 01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,000 Speaker 2: only thing that's not going to be fucked when everything 1830 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:45,639 Speaker 2: else goes down. 1831 01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,519 Speaker 4: I mean, you know they're gonna they're gonna fuck that too. 1832 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, you're right, because there's AI porn. Now there's 1833 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,400 Speaker 2: AI porn, and eventually they're gonna fuck that too. 1834 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:57,519 Speaker 4: Like no, they're gonna like govere governor, gover, govert andize governor. 1835 01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,599 Speaker 2: I'm a high as hell government. 1836 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 4: The government is going to control only sands, mark my words. Okay, 1837 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,799 Speaker 4: you see that Trump announced that that now the government 1838 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 4: owns ten percent of Intel, you. 1839 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:14,679 Speaker 2: Know, like in quick the computer problem. Wow, who does 1840 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:15,280 Speaker 2: a government? 1841 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 4: The government? 1842 01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Why I don't know. 1843 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,559 Speaker 4: But Trump negotiated the deal, baby, because he's the hot 1844 01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:26,479 Speaker 4: Marketer negotiator. And I'm pretty sure that that means like 1845 01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,920 Speaker 4: there's going to be control over a lot more of 1846 01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 4: what we're doing with our money, what we're doing with 1847 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,160 Speaker 4: our habits. Like eventually the government will own Apple. Like 1848 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 4: if you can do that, then you can own ten 1849 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 4: percent of Apple, Then you can own ten percent of 1850 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like we have a privacy, Yeah, 1851 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,320 Speaker 4: there's no, there's privacy is done. It's even like why 1852 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,240 Speaker 4: have you put a privacy clause on an app at 1853 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,760 Speaker 4: this point? Like you signed your life away? When I 1854 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 4: saw that shit about global global entry, global entry or 1855 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,960 Speaker 4: TSA global entry. Then you basically signed away your rights 1856 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:05,639 Speaker 4: like they can stop you. They have all your information, 1857 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 4: they're tracking you now me us, Yeah, we are us. 1858 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 4: The only good thing going for us is that we 1859 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,080 Speaker 4: do have property outside of the country. Now it's just 1860 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 4: time to build on it, bitch. 1861 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,599 Speaker 2: I'm thinking we'll have a better chance that the aliens 1862 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 2: take us if we're not even on American soil, they 1863 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 2: may consider it. 1864 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,519 Speaker 3: I also heard recently that I feel. 1865 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,599 Speaker 4: Like Costa Rica's last on the list at Costa Rica. 1866 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:30,680 Speaker 4: Maybe Africa, like Africa, has like this protective orb around it. 1867 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,840 Speaker 3: News flash, the aliens are black. 1868 01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, just just sot everybody to know. 1869 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:44,120 Speaker 3: It's true. 1870 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,439 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, what's what's your theory there? 1871 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:53,160 Speaker 2: My theory is that Africa is the oldest civilization. The 1872 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:57,960 Speaker 2: oldest are like the oldest, the oldest first people were black. 1873 01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,519 Speaker 2: And if you think about us not knowing, first of all, 1874 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:05,080 Speaker 2: they shrunk Africa on the map to confuse everybody. Second 1875 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:06,879 Speaker 2: of all, they still don't know how the fucking pyramids 1876 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,439 Speaker 2: got there. Indigenous and black people came from a different 1877 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,960 Speaker 2: star seed and everything else. 1878 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 4: Every I feel like there's black people from Earth and 1879 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 4: from I feel like it was a collaboration. 1880 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a collaboration. 1881 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,720 Speaker 4: But the thing because then, because then why would we 1882 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,680 Speaker 4: grow from? Why are we connected to mother nature? There 1883 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 4: has to be a connection between us. 1884 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,920 Speaker 2: We're a hybrid of this, of this, this extraterrestrial and 1885 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,439 Speaker 2: whatever else was here on We're a hybrid to this atmosphere. Yes, 1886 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 2: I mean I also heard that there is an ancient 1887 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:42,120 Speaker 2: civilization of extraterrestrial that looked like white Jesus. So there's 1888 01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 2: probably a couple of looks in the in the galaxies. 1889 01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,200 Speaker 2: But we're the oldest and we dominate most of the 1890 01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:52,160 Speaker 2: galaxies internationally, intergalactically. And I just want you guys to know, 1891 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 2: when they come to get us white people, how you've 1892 01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:01,320 Speaker 2: been acting, it may not fly in the other galaxy. Okay, Trump, 1893 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,679 Speaker 2: Racism does not exist outside of this gully behind. 1894 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,400 Speaker 4: Leave him behind please and all his minions. 1895 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,599 Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go watch that movie look Up again. 1896 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,160 Speaker 4: No, oh my god, that movie stressed me out. Now 1897 01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:18,679 Speaker 4: I want to go watch Ancient Aliens. 1898 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,479 Speaker 2: Wait, what's the what's the other one where they have 1899 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,080 Speaker 2: like a party because it's the Last Days and channing 1900 01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:23,800 Speaker 2: to get him was in it? 1901 01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:25,960 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I watched this in it that's a little 1902 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:26,400 Speaker 3: bit funnier. 1903 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,200 Speaker 2: That one's a little funny look up was that it 1904 01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,120 Speaker 2: was too it was it was too real. It was 1905 01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:37,400 Speaker 2: like a satire, but it was true with Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, anyway, 1906 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,000 Speaker 2: I hope this didn't give you more anxiety. I hope 1907 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,240 Speaker 2: listening to Good Moms this Wednesday, you know, brought you down. 1908 01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,200 Speaker 2: I hope that you say hi to your mom and 1909 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,320 Speaker 2: that you love her, and that everybody in your life 1910 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:53,160 Speaker 2: that maybe you have resistance too. I hope this episode 1911 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,920 Speaker 2: reminds you just just soften. We're all human, we're all 1912 01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:01,160 Speaker 2: going through shit, we all are having experience, and we're 1913 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,400 Speaker 2: here to be connected in real life, not to get 1914 01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 2: further from each other, to be closer to each other 1915 01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,320 Speaker 2: and closer to ourselves. So if there is space to 1916 01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:12,040 Speaker 2: grow and expand, I invite you to do that and 1917 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,760 Speaker 2: lean in. We love you. 1918 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:14,840 Speaker 3: Do we have affirmation. 1919 01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 4: The aliens are coming rock out with your balls. 1920 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:26,639 Speaker 3: I like that one. 1921 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,479 Speaker 2: I really support that the aliens are coming rock out 1922 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 2: with your balls out. 1923 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,639 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah yeah. Do we need to pull a card? 1924 01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:37,400 Speaker 4: I have one? 1925 01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:38,880 Speaker 3: Or do you have them in front of you or 1926 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,840 Speaker 3: they're in the living room, but I have some right here. Okay, 1927 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 3: hopefully do that for tearot time. 1928 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,200 Speaker 4: Let's just take a deep breath, take a deep cleansing 1929 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:54,400 Speaker 4: breath to reset the energy. 1930 01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:11,720 Speaker 2: So glad to be here in this lifetime, breathing with 1931 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,280 Speaker 2: my health, with my family. I'm so grateful. We have 1932 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:19,240 Speaker 2: so much to be grateful for. And let's remember that 1933 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 2: every day. 1934 01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:31,120 Speaker 4: Lashay mm hmmm, one fell out of the deck. What 1935 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 4: is it? So full? Five of cups? 1936 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,639 Speaker 2: Let me look it up, baby, Oh, six of cups? 1937 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,559 Speaker 4: Wow? And I wonder I'm going to get my Roman 1938 01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:40,640 Speaker 4: numerals together, right. 1939 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:46,400 Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's like a a numerology of 1940 01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 3: the past, like is advantage. 1941 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:50,360 Speaker 4: I mean it makes sense, you know. Want to get 1942 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,160 Speaker 4: confused with the four and the six the V because the. 1943 01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:58,880 Speaker 2: Four is the V before four and after? Yeah? Yeah, okay. 1944 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:05,680 Speaker 2: Six of cups. Tarot card meanings revisiting the past, childhood memories, innocents, 1945 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:11,200 Speaker 2: joy with the it fell out of the deck, y'all, 1946 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,479 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. The six of cups is a card 1947 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,759 Speaker 2: that takes you back to the happy memories from your past, 1948 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,840 Speaker 2: whether as a child, teenager, or young adult. You may 1949 01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,840 Speaker 2: simply be revisiting those memories in your mind. Or you 1950 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,640 Speaker 2: may travel back to your childhood home or reconnect with 1951 01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,240 Speaker 2: your childhood friends. You could go to a high school 1952 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,120 Speaker 2: reunion or reconnect with an old buddy at chep. 1953 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,439 Speaker 4: My high school reunions in like two weeks, Oh yeah, 1954 01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,479 Speaker 4: my twenty year what the fuck? 1955 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 2: Okay one a teenage sweetheart or past lever may turn 1956 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,800 Speaker 2: up again. These connections bring you a sense of joy 1957 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,719 Speaker 2: and happiness as you reminisce over all the fun times 1958 01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:51,120 Speaker 2: you had together. Take this occasion to explore whether you 1959 01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 2: still have a lot in common and if you wish 1960 01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:56,840 Speaker 2: to continue the relationship now. It shows often the Six 1961 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,280 Speaker 2: of Cups often shows an increased level of harmony and 1962 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,719 Speaker 2: cooperation in your relationships. You're ready to give and receive 1963 01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 2: without expectation. You're also willing to give each other the 1964 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,360 Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. Having moved on from challenging emotions 1965 01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:12,000 Speaker 2: of the Five of Cups, it's time. It's time to 1966 01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,120 Speaker 2: turn over a new leaf and start afresh from a 1967 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 2: more positive place. It invites you to touch, get in 1968 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,320 Speaker 2: touch with your inner child, and experience the fun, freedom, 1969 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,840 Speaker 2: and innocence that comes with being a young child again. 1970 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,479 Speaker 2: You might like to sit down with an adult coloring book, 1971 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 2: dance like no one is watching, play your favorite childhood games, 1972 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 2: or spend more time happy around happy children. When you 1973 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,200 Speaker 2: give yourself permission to be playful, spontaneous, and creative, you 1974 01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:42,240 Speaker 2: connect more with your authentic self and your intuition. Oh wow, wait, 1975 01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,479 Speaker 2: hold on one more thing. The six of cups can 1976 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 2: also refer to child children in your life. It can 1977 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:53,280 Speaker 2: suggest a pregnancy, perhaps twins, chill a bird. 1978 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:54,800 Speaker 4: We don't need to read this part. 1979 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:56,879 Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, never mind. 1980 01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:02,080 Speaker 4: If you want to learn more, okay, Bitty Taro dot com. 1981 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:08,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we've been talking for almost two hours. That 1982 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,240 Speaker 2: wasn't the plan, but apparently we had a lot to say. 1983 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:14,439 Speaker 2: We missed you, guys, and I love you. 1984 01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,680 Speaker 4: I love you too, and make sure you follow us. 1985 01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,280 Speaker 4: Make sure you leave a review for this episode. You 1986 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,080 Speaker 4: can find us at Good Mom's Underscore Bad Choices on Instagram, 1987 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,080 Speaker 4: and make sure you follow the Good Fibe retreat. 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Yeah, I'm been so good, can't you. 1998 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,559 Speaker 7: I went through a drought, that's until I found out 1999 01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,560 Speaker 7: well may might have been known earth. I used to 2000 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,880 Speaker 7: be broken hell, now got the blues in to like 2001 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,840 Speaker 7: beyoncey just hell throat shot or pop in his cow 2002 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:10,759 Speaker 7: wearing their voices. 2003 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:12,880 Speaker 3: Patriarchy kept it in the box. 2004 01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:13,360 Speaker 2: To its flots. 2005 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,160 Speaker 7: Women put the pee and powers so it's pointless. They 2006 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,679 Speaker 7: want me to be good, so I make bad choices. 2007 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 7: Bad mom, not a bad mom, but a bad mom. 2008 01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,439 Speaker 7: It's in on the cannabis in their Bathbone walked in 2009 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,200 Speaker 7: bossls cap and I blew his cat balls. Hot dog. 2010 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,800 Speaker 4: Now I'm immune to the cat called Herbie and no 2011 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:31,800 Speaker 4: waisted straight to it like a dollar sign. 2012 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,080 Speaker 2: Mother, rent the lover when too. 2013 01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,040 Speaker 7: It is like a water sign where you're rent the 2014 01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,920 Speaker 7: winter essential will when the summertime. I do what doll 2015 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,519 Speaker 7: ain't No one that needs to run it by