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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host of the

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Speaker 1: Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your host into

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Speaker 1: the world of hunting the icon of the North American

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Speaker 1: Wilderness Fair. We'll talk about tactics, gear, conservation. We will

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Speaker 1: also bring you into some of the wildest country on

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Speaker 1: the planet chasing Fair. This week, Kolbe and I dial

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Speaker 1: it back a notch and bring up some pretty relevant

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Speaker 1: topics that are relevant to the Barony Magazine podcast, Meat Eater,

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Speaker 1: my association with Meat Eater and magazines, and the current

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Speaker 1: state of our hunting. We talked about a bunch of stuff,

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Speaker 1: but this is definitely a different style of podcast that

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Speaker 1: I think there's some relevant information. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: a Barony Magazine podcast listener, you're gonna want to check

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Speaker 1: this out. And that's why you're here, because you're checking

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Speaker 1: it out. Hey, just yesterday I was It's the Arkansas

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Speaker 1: Modern gun season, but I was carrying my c V

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Speaker 1: c v A Accurate Mountain rifle Kolbe. I haven't even

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh. The breech plug was underwater for about

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Speaker 1: of muscles. It is, man, it's killing me, kolbe that

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Speaker 1: I haven't coon hunted very much this fall killing me.

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Speaker 1: It's time and W hunting supply. Man. I've got a

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Speaker 1: I pretty much just can't combine coon hunting and deer

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Speaker 1: Our friends, our buddies right vocal for you, yeah, man.

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Speaker 1: And our good friends at the Western Bear Foundation, UM

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Speaker 1: in the West for black bears. They're they're hunting conservation organization,

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Speaker 1: but they're interacting with a lot of the issues out

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Speaker 1: there related to the delisting the Yellowstone grizzly So there's

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Speaker 1: Bear Joe Coon Dellas, those guys, they're they're great spokesman

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Speaker 1: for us. And as we talk about Garden the Gate,

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Speaker 1: know that. Yeah. They should make a gold rushed candle,

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Speaker 1: just manly candle like Dolly bag is not exactly manly. Strong,

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Speaker 1: buddies at Northwoods and uh, thanks for listening to our podcast, guys,

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Speaker 1: the Bear Hunting Magazine global headquarters. I've got here with me,

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Speaker 1: Colbe the Bear Tech more head How are you doing,

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Speaker 1: Kobe fantastic? All right, Well, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: but you know, I've never actually seen it play out

425
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: that way, and he was just coming lateral to us,

426
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: and just I just see this rack, and then all

427
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I see the head and all of

428
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, I see the deer, and so I I

429
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: was like, as soon he sees in the opening, I'm

430
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: not gonna wait. I'm just gonna pull the trigger. This

431
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: is a good thing. How long is this after your

432
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: dad a shot? It's probably an hour and a half. Really,

433
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: So y'all just sat there. Yeah, we just sat there

434
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: and we went. We went and drugged the buck away

435
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: from from where he was, and so y'all walked down

436
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: there to the buck. Yeah, I checked it out, make

437
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: sure everything was good, and then we decided to drag

438
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: him away, um from where we were getting pictures of

439
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: these other bucks too, and so uh anyways, this buck

440
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: was coming up and the wind was perfect. I mean,

441
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: the wind couldn't have been any better. And so uh anyways,

442
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: once his buck came up, like, that's a good buck,

443
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: and so I shot him and uh and then he

444
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: runs off into into the brush and then and out

445
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: of the corner of my eye, I see an even

446
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: even bigger buck running the opposite direction. So I didn't

447
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: know there were multiple bucks there, but the way that

448
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: the landscape was, I thought that the buck that came

449
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: out was the one that I had seen before. Um,

450
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: but it turns out he was really really like he

451
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: had a really good mass. You know, it's eight point yeah,

452
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: solid typical eight point probably uh yeah, he just had

453
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: good mass and ye had dark horns. Yeah, biggest you've

454
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: ever killed. No, that other one's bigger hunh yeah youah,

455
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: the one I have a meal at the house is okay, okay, Yeah,

456
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: I've never had a buck scored, but I mean everybody

457
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: guesses even around one forties, which is good for him.

458
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: You know where I've been hunting the one this time,

459
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: I think I think Dad actually tried to measure it,

460
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: and I think it was like a little over a hundred,

461
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: you know. But you're the first one, this one, that

462
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: this this one this year. Yeah, that dark horn one. Yeah, yeah,

463
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: cool man. Well, I would, uh, I'd trade a lot

464
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: for to have had some encounters like that because I've

465
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: had a super tough season. Um I haven't done any

466
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: good probably white towel hunting more this season that I

467
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: have been a long time. And uh I had an

468
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: interesting hunt yesterday I'll tell you about. I went on

469
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: to some public land several hours from here that uh

470
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: I keep a camera on what I would call a

471
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: primary scrape. So like there's you know, a lot of

472
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: different You go in the woods and the twenties of

473
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: October and you're gonna see scrapes all over the place.

474
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: Some scrapes are you know, perennial scrapes, like they're gonna

475
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: come back year after year in the same spot. And

476
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: these deer use these licking branches year round as sent

477
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: communication posts for just distributing information. Um. And I know

478
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: I've I've I've read that and whynot seen it? Well,

479
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: I've seen it firsthand because I leave this camera up

480
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: pretty much year round and I have for the last

481
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: three to four years. This year I started to like

482
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: compare photos and it kind of happened on accident. I

483
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: can't say that I was that put together, but I

484
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: I saved photos from nineteen and then now I've got

485
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: photos from and I started seeing very clear patterns in

486
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: the way that these deer were using these scrapes. And

487
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: this place is way back in it's hard to get to.

488
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: I would say it's there's very little hunting pressure in here.

489
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Um So these deer kind of act like deer act um.

490
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: And I know why there's a little hunting pressure because

491
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to kill a deer in their wind

492
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: is tough. It's just it's just there's many factors that

493
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: make it tough. But that's cool for dear movement and

494
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: what whatnot on a camera. Now, I've never killed a

495
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: deer back in there, um So I can't say that

496
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: like it's great hunting because it's not been for me.

497
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: But for getting pictures, it's pretty cool. Um. No, here's

498
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: a trend that I've seen is that these deer use

499
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: the scrapes in the twenties of October. That's when you

500
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: start seeing buck activity. Most of it is at night. Okay,

501
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: about the between October, between November one and November five,

502
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: the scrape activity completely dries up, completely dries up. And

503
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: what that would indicate is that the bucks are no

504
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: longer worried about communicating from piano a scrape and and

505
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: and putting their scent on a licking branch. They're actually

506
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: chasing and breeding, tending with dose. So the last three years,

507
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: pretty much after November five, no pictures on the scrape

508
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: scrapes dead. Now, that does not mean that that spot

509
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a good spot to hunt though. It just

510
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: means those deers aren't standing in that scrape like that.

511
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: It's a travel area, so and that's why the scrape

512
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: is there. I made a statement the other day, like

513
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, why would you how

514
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: to scrape? It's always nighttime activity. That's true, But that

515
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: can be true, and that's been proven in some research

516
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: that like a whole bunch of scraping has done at night.

517
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: But that doesn't. That doesn't dismiss that the fact that

518
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: scrapes are in dear travel areas, like a buck doesn't

519
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: go put a scrape in some crummy spot that no

520
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: does ever go to. Buck is putting especially primary scrapes

521
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: and primary deer travel areas, so that deer may not

522
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: be coming through that scrape during the daytime, but he

523
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: might be twenty yards away, thirty yards away, just walking

524
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: through that corridor if you're following me. But here here's

525
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: where I began to correlate this information that kind of

526
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: after three years um and I don't have the information

527
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: from but three solid years of data is that after

528
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: about and it varies each year between like the first

529
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: of November to November five, the scrape shuts down, the

530
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: scrape reactivates from like November the twelve all the way

531
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: through the twenties of November peaking around November with scrape

532
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: activity except the second round of scrape activity Kolby is

533
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: not at night, but it's during the day. And see,

534
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: I would have thought that that that was like outlier information.

535
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Like the first year in ten, I got a picture

536
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: of a big buck that I was after like standing

537
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: in that scrape on November seventeen at like eleven o'clock

538
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: in the day and I was like, I'll be darned

539
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: there he was, you know, kind of outline. You know,

540
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, I mean they're gonna visit the

541
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: scrape sometime. That was just like outlier data. Well I

542
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: remember that year. I got a flurry of bucks coming

543
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: into that scrape in the daytime in the teens, middle

544
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: teens of November. Okay, and again all the stuff you

545
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: can read about it in a magazine because magazines are important,

546
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: but it's it's almost like when you see it in

547
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: the fields yourself, it begins to become like real functional

548
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: data that you can use that's not just abstract you know,

549
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: somebody telling you that, oh, bucks work scrapes in late

550
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: October and then they work them again after peak breeding period.

551
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: Like something inside of my brain clicked yesterday when I

552
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: went and checked this camera and what the way it works.

553
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: It's it's way back in there. And I don't try

554
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: to be to this stand before daylight. It's just almost

555
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: not possible for me, considering the drive to get there

556
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: and the walk back into this place. So what I

557
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: usually do try to get to where I parked by daylight,

558
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: and then I hunt my way back in there. And

559
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: by hunting my way yesterday, what that meant for me

560
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: is I rattled on three different occasions on the way

561
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: back in it, and it took me two and a

562
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: half hours to get back in there. And it's not

563
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: that far back in there, but that's just how long

564
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: I hunted. You know, Like I walked, and I would

565
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: come to a good, uh place that I felt like

566
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: had the audio conditions, the sound conditions to carry sound good.

567
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: You know, like the sound would drop off into this

568
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: holler and into this holler and go up the side

569
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: of the mountain, and so I would rattle, had a

570
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: pair of synthetic rattling horns, which I'm making a video

571
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: for Mediator about later you'll see um. And uh, so

572
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: I'd rattle and I might sit there for fifteen minutes

573
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: and then I would kind of slip hunt in anyway,

574
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: got back to where I wanted to be. At nine

575
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, checked my camera. I've got an

576
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: iPhone and I've got an Apple SD card reader little

577
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: pocket thing, yeah that I just plug in and check

578
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: the check the pictures and uh, it's it's a good

579
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: idea to buy the Apple, the genuine Apple one for that,

580
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: no doubt. I've got another one in. I need to

581
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: get the genuine one that you got. The the other

582
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: ones you have to download an app. Oh it's jump,

583
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: it's junk. Yeah, I get a get a get the

584
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they make one for Android out Yeah,

585
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: tech tip, get the Apple device if you have an Apple.

586
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: So check the camera. And then I had already knew

587
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: I was gonna hunt, Like, I wasn't gonna like look

588
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: at pictures and then decided to hunt. So I just

589
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: checked the camera, that climbed up the tree and my

590
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: saddle got into saddle at nine o'clock, pull out the phone.

591
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want to check the card while I was

592
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: on the ground. I wanted to check it while I

593
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: was in the tree. Just I knew I was gonna

594
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: hunt there. The pictures weren't gonna dictate it, but I

595
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: knew there would be pictures on it. Well, Kobe, this

596
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: third year of data just totally aligned. Like the Bucks

597
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: used the scrape in the twenties of October for sure

598
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: in the daytime, some but not a lot. They quit

599
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: using the scrape on November the second, they started using

600
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: up the scrape again, using the scrape again on November.

601
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: The day a hunter was November. So from the tenth

602
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: to the seventeen there was a mature buck on that

603
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: scrape during shooting hours five of seven days. That's pretty

604
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: incredible data. Yeah, five of seven days from the tenth

605
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: to the seventeenth. Actually it wasn't. I didn't count the

606
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: day I was there, because from from the from the

607
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: tenth to six six days, five days, there was a

608
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: mature buck. And there were three mature bucks usn't it,

609
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: which is crazy where it's low density. Yeah, it's just

610
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: it's just it's national forest. I mean it's just like

611
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: low density, tough hunting. Uh And and so three mature bucks,

612
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: nothing major. I mean if any of those bucks had

613
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: been like right around here where I hunt, like, we've

614
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: got some pretty good deer up here in northwest star

615
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: and saw like I've got a couple of deer that

616
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I think or maybe you know, they're pretty good. These

617
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: deer wouldn't score good. They were just mature by their

618
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: body characteristics. And by the years I've been getting pictures

619
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: of them, Like I've got three years of data, and

620
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: I can i recognize these deer from three years ago

621
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: and now they're four and a half to five and

622
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: a half year old. Deer wouldn't wouldn't score good. I mean,

623
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: you know if you saw the picture of this guy,

624
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, if I killed that buck and you saw

625
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: my picture, you'd be like, oh yeah, click, killed a

626
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: decent buck. But to me, that buck would mean like

627
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: the world because where he came from places everything inside

628
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: of hunting places so significant. And by place I mean

629
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: um geographic location that a human is connected to by many, many,

630
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: many factors. He's connected to it culturally by you know,

631
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: my dad hunted there, You're connected to it, um by

632
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: just your your history with that place. You know, you've

633
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: hunted there for so long. You're connected to the land,

634
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: connect the place, you you you you, you know, places

635
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: everything like you t That's that's why, Uh, a deer

636
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: on a high fence ranch doesn't mean as much. I mean, uh,

637
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like if you if you

638
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: went and bought a deer hunt on a on a

639
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: high fence ranch, It's like, what does that place mean

640
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: to you as a hunter? Uh? Not much? And uh

641
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: that's why you can go to a place and maybe

642
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: not have great deer, but it would be real significant

643
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: and that hunt could be translated into any species. You know.

644
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: They're just places that are significant. And I'm kind of

645
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigued by this idea of place and

646
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: hunting because nobody's coming to Arkansas to hunt trophy deer.

647
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I would rather kill a deer back in where I'm

648
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: talking about, as I would trade every deer I've killed

649
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: in Canada for a big one back over there. People

650
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: averard me say that and they think I'm crazy. Um really,

651
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: I killed a hundred sixty incher in Manitoba, Canada last

652
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: year that I didn't even mount. I got it on

653
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: a you know, a euro mounted it. And that deer

654
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: is valuable to me. Uh, it's it's valuable because I've

655
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: now gone to Manitoba several times. I do feel connected

656
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: to that place through the people that I know. They're

657
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, the the guy we hunt with has become

658
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: like a friend now, like there's some i feel like

659
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm starting to kind of set my roots there. So

660
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: there's value in that. But place and hunting is almost

661
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: always connected back to human relationship. I find that interesting

662
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: analyze that, like somebody listening to this, think about that,

663
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: like the places that you love to hunt, why do

664
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: you love to hunt there? Is it just because it's

665
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: good hunting? And I, as much as anybody want to

666
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: kill stuff when I hunt, I don't just go on

667
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: nostalgic hunts and love like eating tags. No, I want

668
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: to kill stuff. But I bet money if you think

669
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: about the places that you love to hunt, that that

670
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: that love that it's connected to success you've had there,

671
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: but it's also connected to people. I know that some

672
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: of the places I loved and hunt are always connected

673
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: to people. Yeah, I know the place that that you know,

674
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: I shot deer this year. I mean it has a

675
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: lot of memories, like my dad and I both killed

676
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: our first muzzle loader bucks the same morning there, you know,

677
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: And so realizing that there's a connection to to just

678
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: events like that in memories, sitting down with him hunting,

679
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, hunting deer together, it's like how often were

680
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: we going to do that? You know? And so it's

681
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: like after he shot that first buck, I knew it's

682
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: like whatever walks out, I don't want to shoot it,

683
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, just because it's like punching that memory, you know.

684
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: And so for me this year is like, you know,

685
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: every everything that I got this year, Well, the bear,

686
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: I was surrounded about people, and then with the deer,

687
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: it was it was you know, less people. It was

688
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: it was just building stuff with my dad and so

689
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: but those same memories have been built inside of like

690
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: public land areas to you know, or on the river

691
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so I find that a lot of

692
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: my my value as assigned to like places I've been with,

693
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: like on a hunt with Dad or or someone else.

694
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: So like, even though I'm living in northwest Arkansas right now,

695
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't have like a huge drive to find a

696
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: place to hunt around here because I'm not connected to

697
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: it yet, you know, if that makes sense. Yeah, and

698
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: you've got connections, You've got connections down there. Yeah. Well

699
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: this so getting back to my hunt, I I got

700
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: in the stand at nine o'clock and it was a

701
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: very exciting feeling to check that camera and there had

702
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: been a big, nice shooter buck there the day before,

703
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: six November at two pm. Um. And what's interesting again

704
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: is these the trend is is these mid November. This

705
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: mid November scrape activity is during the day, which is

706
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: better than the late October scrape activity. That's a trend

707
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: for this spot. I don't I can't say that that

708
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: would I have not noticed that trend other places. But

709
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: like I don't get a lot of nighttime scrape activity

710
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: there during mid November. It's it's always this mid day stuff,

711
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: almost all of it midday, not even late in morning,

712
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: late in evening. Some of that could be lunar phase

713
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: or whatnot, but there's a trend from so I'm hoping

714
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: to be able to get back in there sometime just

715
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: in the next few days. We'll see if I can. Um.

716
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I've already spent so much of my hunting right here

717
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: in northwest Arkansas, uh and don't have anything to show

718
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: for it other than one encounter with a really nice deer,

719
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: actually two really good encounters with deer that with my bow,

720
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and I just wouldn't able to kill the deer. Um.

721
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: But I'm going to use that intel in the future.

722
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: Like I feel this, this is the kind of place

723
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to go scout, Like, I don't

724
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: just like going there and scout and go well, it's

725
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: not very good hunting. It's the kind of place that

726
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: you make up your mind you're gonna go hunt, and

727
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: you just go hunt it no matter what, Like you're

728
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: not just gonna go visit that spot very easily for

729
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: me being a couple hours away from it at least

730
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: if I lived down there, maybe to be different. But

731
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: like next year, going to keep that camera up there,

732
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna plan on being hunting that spot November,

733
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: and if anything is like the trend of the last

734
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: three years, there's most likely going to be buck activity

735
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: in there. And also that trend is significant and substantial

736
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: because all three of those years were very different with

737
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: mass crop, with weather, with everything, but that scrape activity

738
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: remained the same. What that tells me is is that, uh,

739
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, when these dear okay, let me go back.

740
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: The thing that remains constant, and that is that that

741
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: is almost unchanging is the peak breeding period of any

742
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: given time, because that is biology and evolution. That's finest state.

743
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: Um And I want to talk about that word evolution

744
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: here in a minute, I will kind of qualify that statement.

745
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: But like font, peak, fond survival is what dictates conception.

746
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: And so by this analysis that I have, clearly bucks

747
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: are breeding doze from about November the five about November

748
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: the twelfth, and research backs that in Arkansas as for

749
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: the at least the highland regions, the mountain regions being

750
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: peak breeding dates that down in areas, and this is

751
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: all super interesting. Down in areas influenced by the flooding

752
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: of the Mississippi River, peak breeding dates are much later.

753
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: And you know, why have you ever heard me break

754
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: it down? But you know, well, I would think it's

755
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: because of rainfall. Well, it's because of seasonal spring flooding.

756
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: Think about that, Like so ges station period of a dough.

757
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: I think it's two hundred two days. So in the

758
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: mountains and highland, the highland areas of Arkansas washtall, those

759
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: dark mountains, you know, average dough. Let's say she's getting

760
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: bread on November eight, Well, two hundred two days from

761
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: that is going to end up being somewhere around June

762
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: the one. I haven't done the math in my head

763
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, but from we start seeing

764
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: fawns about, you know, any given time, from a week

765
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: after to a week before June the one um. And

766
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, the white tail breeding period is a is

767
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: a is a gradient scale, like some doze will come

768
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 1: in and get bread in late October like that for sure,

769
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: happens because I have seen fawns on the ground in

770
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: like early to mid May in Arkansas, which you do

771
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: the math backwards and it's like, holy smokes, that faun

772
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: was that dough was bred early. Most of them are

773
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: are dropping in June, and my math may be wrong.

774
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't plan on talking about this. It maybe later

775
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: in June that two and two days from like November

776
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: the eighth or something. But my scrape activity shows that

777
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: those bucks are with those are not worried about scrapes.

778
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: By about November the twelve, most of those doughs are bred.

779
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: These bucks are back to work in scrapes, and that

780
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: scrape is the place where they're communicating about. You know,

781
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: those are communicating to the therein Asterius bucks are communicating.

782
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm gonna take this intel and use it

783
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: in years to come, because that is something that is consistent,

784
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: is that breeding date. Like weather could change, mass crop

785
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: could change, they could clear cut that place. Uh like

786
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: everything could change, but that peak breeding date isn't gonna change.

787
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: And uh, I think sometimes as hunters, uh, we get

788
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: lost in the in the details of the moment. I

789
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: do like of weather, of looking for deer sign and

790
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: or or or looking at our app that tells us

791
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: if it's a good day to deer hunter or not.

792
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: I got one buddy who will remain unnamed, who's like

793
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: deer cast says it's gonna be a good day hunt.

794
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be good And I'll be like,

795
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't really care what deer cast says. If you

796
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: can go hunting today, go hunting like it's November the nine,

797
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, Like, so you know, there's there's there's some

798
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: things that just remain the same, which is going to

799
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: be that peak breeding time you need to be in

800
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: the woods. And by the time this podcast comes out, uh,

801
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: some of that will be over and will kind of

802
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: be kind of towards the post rut here gone. At Kobe,

803
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about the Mississippi River, and I

804
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: didn't Mississippi River, the mighty Mississippi Well, I was gonna

805
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: talk about why it's the reason the rut is later

806
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: in mississ well in areas influenced by the Mississippi River

807
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: in the Delta regions of the South is because of

808
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: seasonal flooding in the spring. So if doose are dropping

809
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: fawnds in mid May, which is like peak rain season.

810
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: All those bottom lands flood, so their rut is later.

811
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: It's a month later. I mean like the peak rut

812
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: for my buddies down in south east Arkansas, it's like

813
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: mid December, early to mid December peak rut. Like right now,

814
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: it's like not even much going on down there with

815
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: the rut. Mid December. Bucks are chasing, bucks are breeding.

816
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and those funds are getting an extra month

817
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: for the water to recede because and in that all

818
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: is dictated by if you think about the process, the

819
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: biological process, there were does that were bred on November

820
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: the five down there in uh in the Lowland River country,

821
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: and they had fonds that drowned, so that doze genes

822
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: her d n A that dictated when she came into estrus,

823
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: which would be genetic and hereditary. Like there would be

824
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: some that would have you know, the DNA structure. You know,

825
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: every everything that our body does is dictated by DNA.

826
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: DNA is like this this this this code that's precoded

827
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: to do certain stuff. You know, for you your red hair, yeah,

828
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: blazing red hair, super recessive that you haven't combed in weeks. Yeah,

829
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: but you think about it, it makes perfect sense that,

830
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: like so a dough that would have the DNA to

831
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: come into Estris early whatever triggered that her jeans would

832
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: not be passed on the doe that had the hereditary

833
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: inclination to come into Estrius. Later, she would be rewarded

834
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: because her fund would survive, her genes would survive. So

835
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: you do that for ten thousand years or twenty thousand years,

836
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, all your dose down the

837
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: Mississippi River bottoms coming to Estris in mid December. It's

838
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: pretty fascinating, isn't it. Yeah, up here it's not as

839
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: critical when they come in, but it's still a relatively

840
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: tight period of time. So anyway, that's my that's my story.

841
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: So I sat there and didn't see the buck. I'm

842
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: telling you a hunting story, and like weaving in and

843
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: out of like all this stuff. Um, I sat there

844
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: all day yesterday, gotten the stand at nine o'clock, and

845
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: I climbed out of the stand at basically sunset, which

846
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: would be thirty minutes before you could stop shooting, because

847
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to hunt my way out

848
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: of there for at least some period of time before

849
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: it got dark. I've had a fair bit of not

850
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: success because I've never killed a buck like this, but

851
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: I could have killed deer multiple times late in the

852
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: evening coming out of there, uh grunting, moving slow, kind

853
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: of slip hunting out of there. And multiple times I've

854
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: had deer encounters that if it had been a buck,

855
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: I could have killed it. So I got out of

856
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: stand basically at five o'clock, uh, you know, of like

857
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: five or eight. I got out of stand legal shooting

858
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: light lasted till like five thirty eight for all the

859
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: for just to give you the real details there down

860
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty, and didn't see didn't see a buck.

861
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: I saw one dough at twelve twenty five. I turned

862
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: around directly behind me, and I watched a dough bed

863
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: down sixty seventy yards away. Watched her for she stayed

864
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: on the ground for only ten minutes and got up

865
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: and walked off. But no buck ever came in. Most

866
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: shepherd thinks they smelled me, which he's probably right. Uh,

867
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: probably they smelled me, and I never saw him. The

868
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: wind up on this place as squarely as it can be,

869
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: like if if if you check, I mean wind indications

870
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: on the weather app mean nothing up there. Nothing. I mean,

871
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: like if it says winds out of the north, does it,

872
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't does not matter. The wind will be swirling

873
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: in there or it will pick its own direction. Like yesterday,

874
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: the wind blew out of the east about seventy percent

875
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: of the time. Uh, And I didn't even look at

876
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: what it predicted. But they never predict an east wind

877
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: down there. I mean, like we're very rare and east

878
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: wind is like pretty much almost all of our wind

879
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: is out of the north, south, or west. In the

880
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: combination of those rarely out of the east. It blew

881
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: out of the east almost all day, which was which

882
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: was favorable for me. Um. So anyway, that's my story, man,

883
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: that's my story. Um We're not gonna be labor this podcast.

884
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to say this because it it, but

885
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: we're working on so much stuff for the new version

886
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: of this podcast. I got a bunch of stuff that

887
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of holding back. Kobe. Yeah, because we had

888
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: a string of podcasts there that we're like, awesome. We

889
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: we've had some awesome ones lately, but you know, like

890
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: we were traveling, we're going out of our way to

891
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: get some great guests. I mean, we had Ted Nugent,

892
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: we had Steve Ronnell and your honest to tell us,

893
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: we had we were traveling doing some biology podcast with

894
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: Sarah Lita and Laura Conley and and and uh, we

895
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of great stuff that we just

896
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: can't release it. Yeah, and so right now we're kind

897
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: of kind of just sticking local, sticking local. Yeah. Yeah, Um,

898
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about this book right here against

899
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: the grain. Um, but but I'm not Kobe. I don't.

900
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: I just don't think we can get into it. Yeah. Um,

901
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: I man, I'll tell you what. If there's one thing

902
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,479
Speaker 1: that I would encourage people to do, it's it's read

903
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: you can. Uh. We were gonna do like a book

904
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: review on a couple of these books I'm reading. I

905
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: am not a voracious reader either. Like, I don't want

906
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: people to hear me talk about reading books and think

907
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: that i'm because some people are. Some people just like

908
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: can pick up that book and read it like in

909
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: a weekend. That is not me. I gotta pack on

910
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: these books for long periods of time with pen in hand. Yes,

911
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: and uh, and that's what I do. And I I

912
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: love it. I love it it's I don't know, we

913
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: gotta keep I think as adults, and most people that

914
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast would be an adult. This idea

915
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: that you stop learning once ye're out of school or

916
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: out of college or something that's crazy. I mean, we're

917
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: we're designed to continue to learn and grow as people

918
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: for our entire lives. Um, we really are. And so

919
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: this idea that we quit like academic learning once we

920
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: get out of school or something that's I don't know.

921
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's very healthy and everybody's gonna have

922
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: a different appetite. But I've had to develop a discipline

923
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: inside of me to read books and make time for it.

924
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: But it's just something I prioritized over the last twenty years.

925
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: And man, I don't there are people that I'm not

926
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: well read. I promise you I'm not. But I have

927
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: consistently read for for twenty years. You know. It's just

928
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: stuff that's interesting to me, and uh, it's it's valuable.

929
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm only talking about this because we were

930
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: going to talk about this book Against the Grain. I

931
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: want to so much, so much, Well, we'll have to

932
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: do it on another podcast. Yeah, So I'm working for

933
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: meat eater. It's not changing Bear Honey magazine, and I'm

934
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: still trying to kill a buck. Colby just went out

935
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: in all this red haired glory and killed two bucks

936
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: on the same day. Just easy peasy. I don't know, man,

937
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: I guess he's got a silver spoon in his mouth

938
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to deer hunting. It was just a year.

939
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: It needed to be easy. I didn't need to be

940
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: spending a lot of time out there, I guess. I

941
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: still I still don't want to go see if I

942
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: can get another dough or two, and I might hunt

943
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Texas a little bit in my parents house. Yeah, alright man,

944
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Well yeah, we're about to start working on the January

945
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: fripary issue Barny Magazine. Right around the corner, Right around

946
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: the corner, Yeah all right, well, ma'am, keep the wild

947
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: places wild. Is that's where the bears live. Yep.