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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you heard the voice, you see the face? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Fridays for the Damn Art. April twenty ninth, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to find out whether you are in

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Speaker 1: we do. But Luke, you almost I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you didn't almost because you're tough. Luke, Like

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Speaker 1: The flu game. You told me. Look, if I was

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Speaker 1: I know that Miguel Tahata used to take be twelve

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Speaker 1: Wow, all right, oh look at that going through all

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Speaker 1: the record pain and scarring. Yeah, behind the wow find that? Yes, yes, wow,

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Speaker 3: Fuck me man, that was deep. All right, now I'm

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Speaker 2: All right, so now we've done that.

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Speaker 1: Your ability to act like you're the first person ever

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Speaker 1: You know that, Hey BC, the first world of improv

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. I guess you can see.

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Speaker 2: Let's see. Yes, if you can.

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Speaker 3: Rum roll, please one, two, three, and then one more

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Speaker 2: There you go. All right, Now we have to wait

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Speaker 1: I will uh set a timer, Luke, set of timer because.

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Speaker 3: So what time is it now? It's eleven oh nine,

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Speaker 1: Yes, there we go the nineteen Yes, yes, give it

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Speaker 2: All right, moving you see the bar, it's moving.

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Speaker 1: Well, looke, why don't you said an alarm? And we'll

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Speaker 1: things mixed martial arts, Luke our first topic of the

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Speaker 1: day on this Friday interesting of sorts Twitter battle, which

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Speaker 1: started somewhat lamely and innocently with UFC Wealthroy Champion Kamara

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Speaker 1: Usman and boxing superstar and Pomp for Pound King Canelo

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Speaker 1: with Kamaro Usman taking one hell of a company man stance. Luke, Wow,

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Speaker 1: it was Ali abdel Aziz the manager of Usman, trying

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Speaker 1: feel could you know, change their life financially, Canelo, Who

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Speaker 1: the fuck is this long island?

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Speaker 2: Luke?

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Speaker 1: Can we keep the train moving here? Bene each all

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Speaker 1: of them? You know who I am, I'm Usman's manager.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Here's what Abdelazi said. You've been ducky.

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Speaker 3: This is one of my favorite parts. I'm being very

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Speaker 3: nice to you because it's Ramadan.

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Speaker 1: Well, he says, you've been ducking Triple G for two

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Speaker 1: years now. I don't know about that, but Tomorrow has

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Speaker 1: said Tomorrow says, you don't want that smoke, and it

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Speaker 1: was Espinosa saying, Lol, UFC fighters want that boxing paycheck.

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Speaker 1: But I don't understand that boxers have the autonomy to

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Speaker 1: the smoke. It's about professional self determination, a foreign concept

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Speaker 1: to those Luke who let that kickboxing instructor choose their fights.

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Speaker 1: So our boy Steve going back into the playbook here

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Speaker 3: Down, Luke, because notoriously successful boxing promoter Dana White.

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Speaker 3: It's the most insane fucking thing. Yeah, dude, this is

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Speaker 3: Francis might get it, If Kamar who gets it, great,

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Speaker 2: Not mad at that at all. But you're going to

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Speaker 3: Get paydays that you otherwise would be it would be impossible.

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Speaker 1: You know, Espinosa, it became a part of this, But

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Speaker 1: Like this is a I mean, dude, Kamar Usman didn't

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Speaker 1: it's just it's it was worthy of sort of opening

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Speaker 1: This ain't it too deep for you here? So Luke,

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Speaker 1: was it even him?

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Speaker 1: Are we going nuts over at all?

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Speaker 1: Fifty mil probably, And by the way, that's a really

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Speaker 3: We just we had probably just one more point that

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But Dude Canelo would fuck him up into boxing. It

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Speaker 3: he would eat the canvas multiple times.

433
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Speaker 1: Got It'd be destroyed. But the point to me is,

434
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Speaker 1: even if they brought in, even if this was totally

435
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 1: a ruse to try to get Canelo's interest and then

436
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 1: get more money from the UFC to stay put and

437
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: get a bigger contract, even if that's the game, and

438
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: that may be the game at the end of the

439
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 1: day for Kamorrow and Ali, they may be, you know,

440
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: two steps ahead of this. This is the lamest way

441
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: you could go about to try to try to stir

442
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Speaker 1: up interest.

443
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: Right.

444
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: It's like, Dude Canelo, in all fairness, probably has never

445
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: heard of Kamorrow before this all started.

446
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 3: Probably probably probably, And also again Kamaru just is like, dude,

447
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 3: what do you guys? You have to be Not so

448
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: much Kamora and whoever else, but like, just in general,

449
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: to the MMA fan base, are you guys in this show?

450
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 2: Everyone knows?

451
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: But for the MMA fan based wider, it's like, do

452
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Speaker 3: you guys understand what Canelo has been doing for a

453
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: little while. He is marching divisions down and snatching belts

454
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: and then going up well past any weight class he

455
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: ever needed to, and he's fucking those guys up. To

456
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: the idea that he's not fighting the best is comical.

457
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 3: Comical is what it is. It's not even remotely reflective

458
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Speaker 3: of reality. And you see, this is the last thing

459
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Speaker 3: I would say on this thing, which is it is

460
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Speaker 3: alarming to me how much Stockholm syndrome some of the

461
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: MMA fighters have. And I understand that they take pride

462
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: and that they never had an easy fight about buying

463
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Speaker 3: law right, and I get that that they should be

464
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 3: proud of that, but that is a reality that was

465
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: basically forced on them by the promoters. And it turns

466
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 3: out when you open up the rules and you let

467
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 3: fighters have some say about the future of their careers,

468
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 3: that kind of thing in some to some degree goes away.

469
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: It's a function when you brag about having done that,

470
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Speaker 3: I get that. The idea is that you had a

471
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Speaker 3: hard road. Fine, but you had a hard road because

472
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: somebody gave you marching orders because you don't have autonomy

473
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Speaker 3: over your career, because you can't line up fights like

474
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Speaker 3: Canelo can to get.

475
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Speaker 2: The big fights. That is how the sausage is made.

476
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: And then to ape and parry, what excuse me to

477
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: to borrow what a promoter says and bring it back

478
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: and then use that as like a defense point for

479
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 3: the way the career is gone. When the promoter is

480
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: the one that has control over the careers of MMA

481
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Speaker 3: fighters and to a degree that you know what you

482
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Speaker 3: don't see at all, excuse me, and boxing, it's bizarre.

483
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: It's bizarre. It's truly bizarre.

484
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Speaker 3: Be proud of the road that the road that Kamaru

485
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: Usman has walked is foot fantastic, fantastic. But the reason

486
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: why fans like what the UFC does is because their

487
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: interests are directly aligned. Kamar and Usman's interests are not

488
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: necessarily aligned with that bragging that your rights and your

489
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: interest got overrun in favor of the promoter. I don't

490
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: think that's I don't think that's the brag that they

491
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Speaker 3: think it is. I really don't, Luke.

492
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Speaker 1: I hate to go back to this because it's still

493
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: a little bit too much WWF faction talk. But you

494
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: remember when Luke Rockold toil Man. Imagine if Innghanu, Usman

495
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: and Outisania, the three champions from Africa teamed up joined

496
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: the Unionized Front against fighter paying contracts and all that.

497
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's like saying, Wow, why don't

498
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: we make the nation a domination here at Central Casting. No,

499
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: the point is, Luke, if something like that had happened

500
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: and Kamara was now using this public platform to try

501
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: to get Canelo and was using like in Ghanu, is

502
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: the fact that they aren't paid as fuel to why

503
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: he deserves this. I think that the public would welcome

504
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: in a little bit more right.

505
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, just to wrap up here, there's a

506
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: lot of people, and you know, there's a lot of

507
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: people that have opinions about boxing, and I've got some too,

508
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: and I try to couch them as best I can

509
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: and the evidence that I've collected, But there are a

510
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 3: lot of people who know nothing about boxing, who have

511
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: very strong opinions about it, and I got to say

512
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: a lot of y'all clearly haven't done your homework in

513
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: a long time. Whatever you think boxing is, it ain't

514
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: all right.

515
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: BC. I'm ready to give some test results. If you're ready.

516
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: You're like, you ain't never been to the ghetto, So

517
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: don't ever come to the ghetto, because you wouldn't last

518
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: in the ghetto staying to the ghetto.

519
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about all that.

520
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you're gonna have opinions about something. You

521
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: may want to watch it time to time, but okay,

522
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: you're ready for a result revealed now. I don't know

523
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: if the camera can pick it up, but I'm gonna

524
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: give it to you.

525
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Speaker 2: BC. What do you think COVID or no COVID.

526
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: COVID. Yeah, you're due. You've been due for one. Look unfortunate.

527
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: I've been due for a while. I'll tell you I

528
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: think I did have it. But here we go. Can

529
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Speaker 2: you see, let's go to Maury.

530
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Speaker 1: Is he the is he pregnant? Is he the father? Yes?

531
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Speaker 1: Red Luke.

532
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: No, they can't see ship because this camera blows. No,

533
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: it's not here. I'll take a picture of it. And

534
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: they'll send it to what you call it to uh

535
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: Corey and he could put it on the air. But no,

536
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: it is single, it is not it is not a

537
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: positive test.

538
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Speaker 1: According to web md, it says you your ovaries just dropped, Luke.

539
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably true.

540
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: That's probably true.

541
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably true. Corey. I'm gonna send this to you.

542
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: Is that okay? And you can put it on the air.

543
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Cory's guys tm I here okay. Can we

544
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: move on to fight Talk?

545
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: All right? Yes, I am I am COVID negative according

546
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: to this test.

547
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: Corey, I'm gonna send you a picture of Mike Colon,

548
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: but it's from the outside. Can you put that on

549
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: the Corey? There you go? All right? Yeah, h thank

550
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: you very much.

551
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: That's okay.

552
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's get back on the train here of fight talk,

553
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: can fight predictions. We can all wonder to ourselves what

554
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: Luke actually does have? Right? Did he get chlamydia from

555
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: that chick lydia? Man? That that was a that was

556
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: a song in my high school.

557
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Luke.

558
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: Back to the box though, what's inside that box? A

559
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: pair of fantastic man events this weekend. Let's start top

560
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: rank ESPN, LAS Vegas one hundred and thirty pound champions,

561
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: both unbeaten, univocation with sha Kurz Stevenson, the twenty four

562
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: year old soft paw maybe maybe the next big thing

563
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: in boxing, which is what he called himself at Thursday's

564
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: final press conference taking on the battle tested Mexican warrior

565
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Oscar Valdez. Luke, this will have for whatever people care,

566
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: if it still means anything, The Ring Magazine Lineal Championship

567
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: will be on the line here, first time in this

568
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: division since Pacquiao defeated Juan Menuel Marcus and their two

569
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: thousand and eight rematch, also at one hundred and thirty pounds.

570
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: So Luke, this will declare the best in the world,

571
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: the unified champion. But I think even more, as we

572
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: talked about it Wednesday storylines, we're potentially declaring, you know,

573
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: who's going to join that list of the major power

574
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: players that have next in this sport that are in

575
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 1: their mid twenties, and there's a bunch of them. This

576
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: would be a monster step forward, Luke. As we speak

577
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: right now, Shakus Stevenson minus six hundred, your betting favorite,

578
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: fresh off the dismantling of Jamel Herring, to capture that

579
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: WBO one hundred and thirty pound title, the champion and

580
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: the WBC Oscar Valdez plus four twenty five. Luke, what

581
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: are you going to be watching for in the first

582
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: third of this fight that might inform you which direction

583
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: we're going here?

584
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: Is Stevenson setting? What kind of traps Stevenson is setting?

585
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: Because I think Valdez is going to pressure into him,

586
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: He's going to try and push him backwards. Also, you know,

587
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: you always got to pay attention. I say this every fight.

588
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: It's slightly different fight to fight about where and how

589
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: it matters. But the real estate here, I think if

590
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: Stevenson is up against the ropes a little bit, or

591
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: at least constantly on the rope.

592
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: That would be a bit of a problem. Although I

593
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: do expect there will be some of that.

594
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: You know, if he touches it, it's not some scandal,

595
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: but if there's prolonged amount of time there, that would

596
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: be a bad thing. But I want to see what

597
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: traps he does to counterbox. I think that's really gonna

598
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: be the key, because what's good, He's not gonna be

599
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: able to repressure Valdez backwards early. I don't think unless

600
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: he scores some massive shot or something, what's gonna have

601
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: to happen. He's gonna have to absorb that pressure, make

602
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: Valdez warry about it, and then later on begin to

603
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: pressure him backwards.

604
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: Uh in kind.

605
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: So the question is, as he takes that pressure early,

606
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: what kind of traps is he setting and are they

607
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 3: working or is Valdez overcoming them? Because here's the other

608
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: key to this. In order to make the adjustments that

609
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: he needs, they have to happen on a schedule like

610
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: this is what I always talk about with Floyd. People

611
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: kind of overlook one of the points, which was if

612
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: you can't beat him in the first six, you're not

613
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: going to beat him in the last. But the point

614
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: is he didn't take very long to get his adjustments going.

615
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: He made them.

616
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 3: Pretty quick after round two, after round three, maybe one

617
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: after round five, so by round a lot of the

618
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: steam of the other guy's offense has been taken off.

619
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: I want to see a similar kind of train leaving

620
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: the station regularity, with trap setting, absorption of pressure, frustration

621
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: for Valdez, and then a turning of the tide. That

622
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: to me is really how Stevenson is gonna win this contest.

623
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Wow, So you saw them standing across from each other.

624
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: Now they were both champions at one twenty six. A

625
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: couple of years back, Stevenson became the mandatory felt, as

626
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: I said Wednesday, that Valdez was ducking him. He went

627
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: up to one thirty. Stevenson followed. They both won titles

628
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: on their own. Steven still still claiming, by the way

629
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: that this was supposed this date was supposed to be

630
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Valdez versus Navarete, who was going to move up from

631
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: one twenty six. But the good news is they're both

632
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: under the same promoter, same network. We made this fight.

633
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: But you saw them standing across from each other. Stevenson

634
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: an inch and a half taller, two inches longer in reach.

635
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: But obviously Luke first and foremost. The divide in speed

636
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: is going to be massive here. So I really need

637
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: to see how Oscar Valdez decides to deal with that.

638
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: If he decides to deal with that straight up in

639
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: the constant forward motion pressure that he was known for

640
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: earlier in his career, I think Valdez will get chewed

641
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: up and spit out Luke, and it may end up

642
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 1: looking a lot like Mayweather corrals from two thousand and one,

643
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, which was also at one hundred and

644
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: thirty pounds when both were also undefeated. The difference here

645
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: is that Corrals was a betting favorite in that one

646
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: and Floyd just you know, hot knife through butter five

647
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: knockdowns surprised us all this time around, though the odds

648
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: makers rightfully. So see this potential in shaker Stevenson that

649
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: if the speed meaning hand and foot is too wide,

650
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Valdez may never be in this fight. But Luke, I

651
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: think not only that, I think if he puts on

652
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: uneducated pressure, reckless pressure, frustraight of pressure and there's no

653
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: layers to it, Stevens is gonna chew that up. So

654
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: it's really going to be on thatdie Renoso, you know,

655
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Canelo's trainer and manager who trains Oscar Valdes. They're gonna

656
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: have to be so smart in the way that they

657
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: they time Stevenson in the way that they're sure to

658
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: not just you know, be down four rounds to nothing

659
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: off the start, because the difference and output is so big,

660
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: and you got to really think about how you're gonna

661
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: fight somebody this talented and this dangerous, because how did

662
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Wan Mell well, Marquez in the end deal with Pacquiao

663
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: for four fights, be the really the only guy of

664
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: that era I know. Eric Morales beat Pacquiao in their

665
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: first of three meetings. Great fight, all time, great fight.

666
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: But none of those guys, Brera, none of those guys

667
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: had sustained stretches controlling Pacio when his speed and outburst

668
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: was just ridiculous at that weight. Except for Marquez. Yeah,

669
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: he got knocked down a bunch, but he sat in there,

670
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: look and he was able at the time the tornado

671
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: that was Pacquiao, and because he was able to punch

672
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: with him and at times punch harder and had the

673
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: chin to stand in there as well, he was able

674
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: to level those terms. But Luke, Oscar Valdez is very good.

675
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: He ain't Marquez, man, And even if you're trying to

676
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: tell me that Stevenson ain't Pacio, you get my point.

677
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Though the gap here in skill might be so wide

678
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: that this never becomes a fight. I need Oscar Valdez

679
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: to make sure in the first half that this is

680
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: a fight, that he's not completely down on the scorecards,

681
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: that he has figured out some way to slow down discipline,

682
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: the quicker guy with the bigger Outputlet you know, if

683
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that, he's in trouble here, Luke, he

684
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: is in trouble. So I don't know how he does that.

685
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: You know, is it sharp shooting from the outside for

686
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: the big punch. Because you may look at these odds

687
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: and go, why are you guys so excited about this fight?

688
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: It's one sided, well, no two unbeating champions with very

689
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: contrasting styles. If Valdez can control the real estate, we

690
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: gotta fight here. He's fast enough, he's strong enough, he's

691
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: got a great chin, but man, he's fighting a wizard. So, Luke,

692
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: here's how I'm gonna pin it to you. I mean,

693
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: don't forget. Valdez was an underdog against Miguil burch Out

694
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: last year, right he moved up in wait to fight

695
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: the boogeyman in that division. But he raised his game

696
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: because of that influence of Eddie Renoso, who really introduced

697
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: a lot more craft and timing and poison too. That

698
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: to really put on a performance that's the best of

699
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: his career, and that I didn't really know what's possible.

700
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: Can he exceed that to defeat Shakur because he'll have to.

701
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: That's up in the air. But the thing that hedges

702
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: up against that is Luke. I don't think we are

703
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: freaking close to have seen the best of Shugar Stevenson yet, like,

704
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: not even freaking close. That's the scariest element in trying

705
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: to handicap this.

706
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: But right, and another part too, though, is Valdez was

707
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: an underdog against Burchelt. But man, burchellt ain't Stevenson. No,

708
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: not at all, not at all. Stevenson has a well

709
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: to your point, we haven't really seen him tested in

710
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: a way where we got the full depth and breadth

711
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: of his game. But from what we have seen, he

712
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: is a massively higher fight IQ, significantly more true athletic

713
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: real boxing ability. And so for those reasons. You know,

714
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: while I give Valdez all the credit in the world

715
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: for that Burchell win, it was it was triumphant, it

716
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: was the final moment was explosive. I mean, it was incredible. Dude,

717
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: Stevenson is a whole other ball of wax man. I

718
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: know it's like a real dad thing to say, but

719
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: Jesus dude, oh it is.

720
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: But look listen to this. So so Stevenson's never been

721
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: down to my knowledge and never been hurt or competent.

722
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: Way, neither has Canelo. For everyone out there wondering.

723
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, seriously, Stevenson did though, feel the power

724
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: of Jeremiah, not Untila, the guy who just destroyed Burchell right,

725
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: and that comeback, I just it wasn't a comeback. He

726
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: sent him back down to hell. And what he did

727
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: with that, Luke, though, is he went into boxer mode.

728
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: From the outside, it was boring to watch, but he

729
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: absolutely dominated once he felt the danger and pivoted away. Now,

730
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: the good the news if you're a Shaker fan is

731
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: he didn't stay down that road of avoidance. He came

732
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: back against Joel Herring, who granted is not the puncher

733
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Nakatiya is, but he stepped in there, made that an

734
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: aggressive fight inside even though he's the more skilled guy,

735
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: and just put it all over Herring. If you're a

736
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: team Valdez, you have to bank on the idea that

737
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: we have to hurt this kid. We have to push

738
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: him to a level that he's never been before of

739
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: not just pain, but you know, pressure and needing to

740
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: make adjustments. Obviously, if they don't do that, Luke, this

741
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: will not be a fight. But you know, have you

742
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: sniffed out anything on Stevenson that could let you know

743
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: that's a problem, right, Like Floyd always had a great

744
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: Floyd never a big puncher, but always had a great

745
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: chin and then had all those other intangibles to get

746
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: out of trouble. Anything you've seen yet from Stevenson that

747
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: could make you doubt if this becomes a fight, that

748
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: he could have issues in there.

749
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: Nothing specifically in terms of how they match up in

750
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: that way, which isn't say it doesn't exist, but I

751
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: can't pinpoint one at this juncture. But I do think

752
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: the larger point you raise about this guy is very young.

753
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: He's had a lot of success, but no one's ever

754
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: really put it on him. You know, he got the

755
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: silver medal in the Olympics, but no one ever really

756
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: like stuck it to him and made him question things

757
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: and made him think like, oh shit, Like how am

758
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: I gonna get out of this trouble? How am I

759
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: gonna get out of this problem? Valdez, I think, really

760
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: has to go in there, and I don't. I don't

761
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: think that Stevens in some kind of volume machine either,

762
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: So I'm not asking Valdez to be but I think

763
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: Valdez has.

764
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: To pick very high quality shots. High quality shots.

765
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 3: You got to really go in there and sting this dude,

766
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: and you got to make him begin to doubt. You

767
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: have to make him begin to like question. You have

768
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: to make him be a little bit more reserved, because

769
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: if he just gets going and he's flowing him that

770
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 3: high fight IQ he has and that overall ability he's

771
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: off to the races, you gotta stop that dead in

772
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: its tracks, which means you have probably have to fight

773
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: on the inside to a degree if you can, which

774
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: is why where the real estate takes place is a

775
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: big deal. But BC, I think heavy bodywork is gonna

776
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: be key for Valdez, especially early, and I think you're

777
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: gonna have to really absolutely punish this dude if he doesn't.

778
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: If Valdez lands but isn't punishing, you would agree, no, hope, Right, Yeah.

779
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're coming down to, the final

780
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: equation that he must hurt him, He must visibly hurt

781
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: him to change the tide of this because you're not

782
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna out box him, right, Can you win rounds? If

783
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: this becomes a track meet, like a fast paced fun fight,

784
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: not a brawl, but a high skilled, fast paced fight,

785
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: I would still question he can win enough rounds against

786
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: Stevenson like that, Yeah, dude, you gotta kind of you

787
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: gotta go back. But when I say I don't want,

788
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't want vou dis to go back. Like I

789
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: said to straight ahead pure brawling, there's really gotta be

790
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: craft and the way he sets up his opportunities. But

791
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: when those opportunities are there, if he can corner Shakur,

792
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: if he can hurt him to the body boy, does

793
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: he have to jump in and explod and show the

794
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: explosion that he showed against Burchell. Obviously, part of that

795
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: big storyline we talked about Wednesday, though, is we don't

796
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: really know exactly where Valdez is and what version he

797
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: is because of everything that happened with the tainted t

798
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: the failed supplement. Yet he still went on fought ropes

799
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: and can say sow and looked flat and seemed to

800
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: succumb to a lot of the pressure and bad headlines.

801
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he kicks the tires on that

802
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Luke and comes back and is the very best of

803
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: him again. But even if he's the very best of him,

804
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: if he can't hurt Stevenson, he is in serious trouble, Luke,

805
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: do you add any added elements to this that you

806
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: got Valdez in San Diego with team Canelo, actually training

807
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: with Canelo to a certain degree, right, because Canelo is

808
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: preparing for that may fight. And then you've got our

809
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: boy Shakura bringing in Terrence Crawford, his his big bro,

810
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: his you know, mentor mentee little brother relationship they have.

811
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke, they spar all the damn time. And

812
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: SHAKERR Told me many times, dude, I have moments. I mean,

813
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: I you know, I hold my own I put it

814
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: on Bud Crawford in there. You know, that's that's a

815
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: that sucks to know, that knowledge coming in when you're

816
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: gonna face when you're gonna face Stevenson.

817
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've seen different time. I think even

818
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: in that fight against conse sal there's times when you've

819
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: seen after the fight or whatever, Canelo go and talk

820
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: to him and be like, you should have.

821
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Done this, you should have done this, you should have thrown.

822
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: It this way and have the shoulder position this way,

823
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: and you can see Valdez being like, oh right, right right,

824
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: I mean what does this tell you? Eddie Renoso is

825
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: a boxing savant man. You know, he really knows his stuff,

826
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: and he's gonna get the best out of Oscar Valdez.

827
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: But what he cannot do is make Oscar Valdez somebody

828
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: he is not right. He cannot just make him somebody

829
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: he cannot be. He can make him the best version

830
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: of himself. But that's it, dude. Yeah, the very best

831
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: version of Stevenson, especially with Bud Crawford, who is a

832
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: fucking genius helping him, and if he's holding if you're

833
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: holding your own with Bud Crawford, I don't know who

834
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: can beat you, to be quite honest, I mean, you know, very, very,

835
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 3: very very few people. So Stevenson has his work cut

836
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: out for him. But this, to me is a very

837
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: This is gonna be one of those key moments we

838
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 3: see in Stevenson's career where we go back and look like, oh,

839
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: this is where he leveled up. Now, Valdeskan spoiled the party.

840
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 3: But if he wins, and I suspect that he will,

841
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: we're gonna look back at this performance and be like this,

842
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: this is you know, not the same exactly, but this

843
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: is a similar kind of moment of Aero Spence beating

844
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: Kelbrook many many differences.

845
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: That's a great call. That was a big moment when

846
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: he just leveled up right there.

847
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: And he did that to a certain degree last fight

848
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: against Herring. But hearing is more you know, tough. Yeah,

849
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: certainly not at this level. So man, uh, this could

850
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: be still a great fight. But I think it's going

851
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: to be more valuable to Stevenson if he wins, Luke,

852
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: if if he has moments that he has to overcome,

853
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: if he you know, puts builds a lead in his

854
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: boxing spectacularly and landing big shots, but then eats a

855
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: big right cross, you know, midway through, and suddenly we

856
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: have to see more of his character. I do almost

857
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: welcome that because I need to see, you know, is

858
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: Shakur that really the real, real, real deal right like?

859
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: He looks like it. I need to see it. Will

860
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: this be that fight? I tend to believe, Luke, we

861
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: have a chance of this being that fight. Meaning even

862
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: if shakakg goes on to win and looks spectacular, he's

863
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: gonna have to really answer some questions that he never

864
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: has before. At the very least, I'll say Valdez is

865
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: that opponent that can do that. Will he will he

866
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: lose twelve nothing to get you know, painted on that

867
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: could be in play too, But Luke, let's find out.

868
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to the expert. Let's bring in Luke Thomas.

869
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess you're picking Stevenson. But how what does

870
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: it look.

871
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: Like Stevenson ninth round TKO. I think it starts competitive,

872
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: and then about four rounds in Stevenson starts to pull

873
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 3: away and doesn't look back, and I think I think

874
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: Valdez is. I don't know how bad he's gonna get

875
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: beat up, but he'll get beat up bad enough for

876
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: the referee to save him.

877
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got an eleventh round stoppage, and I

878
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: probably got it. More on cuts, more on the idea.

879
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: You know, can he get a couple of knockdowns, Maybe

880
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: you can get some some flush flash knockout knockdowns. Even

881
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: though Stevenson again not a big one punch guy, but

882
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: so so quick, so accurate, like a young Floyd that

883
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: damn Wright, he can hurt you. Look, this will be

884
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: a monster statement if Shakur Stevenson like pisss on and

885
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: stops him. I mean again, look, this may be in

886
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: the rear in there where we come back after a

887
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: great fight and go, oh my god, we undervalue of

888
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: oscar val does look what he did. He may do that.

889
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: But if Shakur does what we in the betting oddsmen

890
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: tend to think is possible, meaning, you know, can he

891
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: can he put a performance out that we've never seen. Yes,

892
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: I think the better competition he faces, there's obviously inevitably

893
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: a ceiling, But the better the competition he faces, the

894
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: brighter his skills will look because he'll have to raise

895
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: that game. I'll have to get sharper and you'll see

896
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: even more dynamic stuff. Because I think Luke, he's wired

897
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: in a way that the play, you know, the stage

898
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: isn't too bright. He's ready to be that guy, right,

899
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: So if he stops him here, it's I've already got him.

900
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: I think at number nine or ten pound for pound,

901
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: most people have been waiting for one more dude, he's

902
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: going to be in the middle of that top ten

903
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: and it in. Eventually he's gonna he's gonna either take

904
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: over number one or be in a fight that if

905
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: he wins, it would get him number one. You know

906
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Luke, he's of this ilk. That's why

907
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: I've gotta I've gotta go big on him. I gotta stay,

908
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: I gotta stay on this road. This is He's the goods, Luke.

909
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: I love some things I see from Ryan Garcia, some

910
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: things I see from Devin Haney, a lot of what

911
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: I see from Tank Davis. But dude, I love Shaquer Stevenson.

912
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: All Right, I've got it.

913
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: We should It's eleven forty five. We've talked about one fight.

914
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: We should probably move along.

915
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: You guys want to talk about this COVID picture.

916
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: You want to see it?

917
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's you're right. I mean, look, the thing is

918
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: on Friday. You know, I could take this thing off

919
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: the tracks and just leave it in the ditch. You

920
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

921
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: Our audience mostly cares about MMA, so we should probably.

922
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

923
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's tell Okay, with that in mind, let's go

924
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: to the COVID picture. What do we got here, Corey?

925
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, COVID bitches.

926
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay?

927
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Is that a win?

928
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a win? Luke? Is it

929
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: a win?

930
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you're s I probably have some new strain

931
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: that this fucking test can't even pick up.

932
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: That I'm dying. Actually, you should just.

933
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: Call Fauci himself and just get get his advice on that, Luke.

934
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I hope you get well, Luke and

935
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Corey very very a good good day to pick hygiene

936
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: on those nails, right looking, good man. I was gonna say, Luke,

937
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: you're working on those cuticles? Is that long island Luke's hand.

938
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're called teeth.

939
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Oh, that's Luke Thomas's hand. That was You're right, I missed. Yeah,

940
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: I was caught up in the space time continuum. There

941
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: too many jigawats this morning. Apparently, all right, let's keep

942
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: it going here. Uh. That card, by the way, is

943
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: on regular ESPN, and a lot of prospects worth watching,

944
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: including in that comine event Keyshawn Davis. He's a big

945
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: favorite in this one, but he's coming. He's coming on

946
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Nicole Ali Walsh also on that, among some other prospects. Luke,

947
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: let's go to what we're gonna see New York, Madison

948
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: Square Garden to Zone the biggest women's boxing fight of

949
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: all time, number one versus two pound for pound, the

950
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: four belt lightweight champion, unbeaten Katie Taylor against the most

951
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: decorated champion in the history of this sport. On the

952
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: women's side. Seven times dead wrong me now, I said

953
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: five time the other day. Seven division champion Amanda Serrano eight.

954
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: Pacquiao is eight. He's the only male to get to eight.

955
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, even Luke, in this era with so many belts,

956
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: where like Adrian Broner is a four division champion, he

957
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: is like he actually is, even though he's you know,

958
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: like who'd he be? Big Paulie. I mean, you know,

959
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: you get my point. Even in this era, that's still

960
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: stupid impressive by the way, just ridiculous. Anyway, Luke, here

961
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: we go, big time, main event, ten rounds, two minute rounds.

962
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: That's how we're doing it at this level. Your odds

963
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: right now, Amanda Serrano, the unified featherweight champion who's technically

964
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: moving up in weight for this minus won forty favorite

965
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: although she's won titles as we said, between one hundred

966
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: and eighteen and one hundred and forty pounds and Katie

967
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: Taylor plus one point fifteen. Luke Thomas, I think the

968
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: odds makers did get it right. In the end. Serrano's

969
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: got the power advantage. She's super versatile, She's fought in

970
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: all different weights, She's been around a lot longer. Yeah,

971
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: that's right, But would you agree this is still as

972
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty as you could get. I mean, this

973
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: is really if you're gonna do a damn fight and

974
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: put this type of you know label on it, these

975
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: are the right too, Luke, this is gonna be incredible.

976
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: I say, there is one difference between them, BC. One

977
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: difference that's I think noteworthy. One thing or a couple

978
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: things that I saw when Amana Sano fought on those

979
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: Jake Paul cards. We'll see what game plan she employs

980
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: against Taylor, so that could be a bit of a

981
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: wild card here, But in the fights that she had

982
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 3: on the Jake Paul undercards, she was what I would

983
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: call stubborn. Stubborn in the sense of she had one

984
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: game plan a couple of minor adjustments to keep it alive,

985
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: but there were times where her opponents, who were outmatched

986
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 3: in this case, landed on her and she didn't really

987
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: adjust around it. She kind of just ate through it.

988
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah I will, I will just jump in and say

989
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: I really think she was trying like hell to impress

990
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: and just get a big knockout and took on more

991
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: punishment than she would necessarily do if there were more

992
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: stakes on the flat.

993
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 2: I think that's entirely fair.

994
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm just pointing out she did do that, so it

995
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 3: will be it will be important to see what kind

996
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: of game plan she does here. Again, we go back

997
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: to it. They both are absolute punching machines. They both

998
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: have high volume, they both have high work rate. To me,

999
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 3: Taylor a little bit more of a sharpshooter than Serrano,

1000
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: but Serrano, although you know, both have their experiences this way,

1001
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna give the edge in body punching to

1002
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: someone like Amanda Serrano. Here's the thing I need to

1003
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: think about.

1004
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: BC.

1005
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 3: We said that these rounds like we had coolboy Steph

1006
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: taking on figuaroa like, some of those rounds are a

1007
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: little hard to score, a little bit hard to know

1008
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 3: exactly what happened. I think you're gonna get that. Here's

1009
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: one thing to think about it.

1010
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: With the two minutes setup you're going to, You're you're

1011
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: going to get that, no question about it, dude. We're

1012
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: gonna be split after so many of these.

1013
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: I think it's possible early that Amanda Serrano will take

1014
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: more head punches and look physically messed up a little

1015
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: bit earlier in the fight than Taylor. However, should the

1016
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: fight go later and Serrano stays busy with the bodywork,

1017
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: which I think she will, to me b C, I'm

1018
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: not gonna go need to ignore the first six d

1019
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: eight rounds. That's not what I'm saying. But I am

1020
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: gonna pay attention a little bit more. I'm gonna lean

1021
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 3: in like that meme a little bit more closely after six,

1022
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: after eight, because I think Serrano is gonna have probably

1023
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: unless she's just way better, which I don't think she is,

1024
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: She's gonna have her bet.

1025
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: The fruits of her labor will appear later.

1026
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 3: In this contest, So then you have to ask yourself

1027
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: how much fruit will there actually be. I might be

1028
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: leaning a little bit Taylor by virtue of the fact

1029
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: that I think that Serrano actually has had a incredibly

1030
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: tough road and might be in some ways a more.

1031
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: I like her game better at a bare minimum, I

1032
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: really do. I love her body punching, but Taylor is

1033
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: an absolute brick wall man. I'm curious to see if

1034
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: this fight gets decided a based on what you have

1035
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 3: pointed out to two minute rounds making it difficult to score,

1036
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: but leaning towards Taylor, because I think she's going to

1037
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: mark up Serrano a little bit quicker than Serrano's going

1038
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: to mark her up, and I think that's gonna sway

1039
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: the judges a little bit.

1040
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, if there's any even though Serrano can do it

1041
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: all and she can't, she's done it. She's fight any style,

1042
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: right if you're telling me just an attract meet who

1043
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: has the advantage if there were no knockdowns, in no

1044
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: knockout and we go the distance, Dude, That's what Katie

1045
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: Taylor does and can do and has proven that a lot.

1046
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: And so luke if Katie Taylor, in my opinion, is

1047
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: not the aggressor and not looking to I don't want

1048
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: to say, like milk the system, but use the two

1049
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: minute round system and be first, be always, but definitely

1050
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: be last, and you know, try to out volume as

1051
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: many rounds as she can. She's gonna have to you know,

1052
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: a great chin, of course, but she's done that in

1053
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: the past. But I don't think she can win unless

1054
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: she does that. So the question is what will Serrano's

1055
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: response be, you know, can she humble that and discipline

1056
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: that with a big shot early or like you're saying,

1057
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's the commitment to the body and being willing

1058
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: to lose those rounds. But Serranto's got to be wary

1059
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: of that two minute set up in my opinion, and

1060
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: not gamble on that too often. Like, yeah, you have

1061
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: to put some money in the bank. You have to

1062
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: you know, work a few rounds and try to set

1063
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: up the big shot that you think could change the

1064
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: momentum and end it. But again, this is only ten

1065
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: rounds and it's not like they're both new to that distance.

1066
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: But you got to make your statements, and you got

1067
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: to make them large. So will that come for Serrano

1068
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: from you know, looking to counter what she can do.

1069
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: Will that come from trying to up her output and

1070
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: trying to you know, box Taylor from distance and make

1071
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Taylor chase her. I don't know if she can pull

1072
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: that off for long stretches. It's tough. Canny Taylor's been

1073
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: in a few competitive fights. Her fights are always fun

1074
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: to watch. But you know, you have to talk about

1075
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: the two Delphine pursuon ones when you talk about what's

1076
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the most we've seen her, you know, specifically in the

1077
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: first one, Madison Square Garden aj Ruiz one undercard amazing fight, Luke,

1078
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: I was there ring just an amazing fight, but Persuon

1079
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: just just was like, I'm gonna absorb everything you have

1080
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: and not even like get out of the way or

1081
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: try to. But I'm also just gonna try to throw

1082
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: bombs the whole fight, and I'm gonna try to keep

1083
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: up with your output. The difference here, Luke is I don't.

1084
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: I think Pursuon is far more limited compared to Serrano,

1085
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: and I also think Srono's got a power advantage. So

1086
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, look, I thought the first fight was was

1087
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: that best to draw? I think you could have scored

1088
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: it for pursuing. Taylor won it, and even though the

1089
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: second fight was really fun, I thought Taylor was more

1090
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: in command of it. But like, could Serrano match that

1091
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: volume if she really wanted to? Yes, But Luke, I

1092
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: think she has enough power where there's going to come

1093
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: a point where she's going to either you know, hurt

1094
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: Taylor and make her make a tough decision of her flight,

1095
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, or whatever, or she's gonna put it on

1096
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: her because Pursue wore Taylor down, definitely stung her, but

1097
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: turn that into such an absurd track meet that we

1098
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: saw Taylor to be honest, hanging out for dear life, dude.

1099
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: I think Serrano's got a lot of a lot more

1100
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: ways she can win this fight than Taylor, Luke. And

1101
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: I really want to see if she's I don't want

1102
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: her wait too long, but I want to see the

1103
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: first time she really lands something big with that left hand.

1104
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: It could be a hook to the body, it could

1105
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: be a overhand left I want to see how Taylor's

1106
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna gonna keep, you know, fielding that because I think

1107
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Taylor has to keep that same energy and keep that

1108
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: pressure going to win. How many of those left hands

1109
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: can she eat though on the way there, Luke, that's

1110
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: the thing, that's the key thing.

1111
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: Let me play. Let me play it. It's a fine

1112
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: point to make. Let me play an X factor game

1113
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 3: and see what you think.

1114
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: Now.

1115
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for either of these communities

1116
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: because I'm not a part of them, and I don't

1117
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: know what they're going to do or how it's going

1118
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: to look or anything like that.

1119
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: But despites of New York City.

1120
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: New York City has if folks who may not know,

1121
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: they have a ton of Irish immigrants there, And I mean,

1122
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: like from Ireland.

1123
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: I worked at a bar, an.

1124
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: Irish bar when I bounced at one when I was

1125
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: living in New York City when I was twenty three

1126
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: years old. It was all run by Irish people. And

1127
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: of course, need I tell you that there is a

1128
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: giant Puerto Rican community there as well. Both make New

1129
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: York City better and I'm glad they're there, but I

1130
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 3: don't know who supports their fighter better.

1131
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: My hunch, BC, My hunch is that there's going to be.

1132
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: A bigger Irish probably contingent, then there is going to

1133
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: be a Puerto Rican one, only because I think Katie

1134
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: Taylor has been embraced more at home.

1135
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh they're going to travel has here, dude.

1136
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: They're going to travel from home to ye follow her?

1137
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: So how much is that going to play a role too?

1138
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be too crazy of

1139
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: a role, because I think Serrano is long proven, She's

1140
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: she's tough. That's not gonna matter to her. She'll be

1141
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: fine when.

1142
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: The crowd cheering on anything Katie Taylor does, affecting the

1143
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: jyllis right.

1144
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: So that's where I was going to get you, was

1145
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: the quote. The real question is the is the scoring

1146
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: by the judges with those two minute rounds. It favors output.

1147
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: Face attract me unless you can visibly hurt somebody. So

1148
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: look like that's the thing. There's a there's a strong

1149
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: reality here based on what we're both saying, that Taylor

1150
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: could be up, you know at the midway point, you know,

1151
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: four to one even, and Serrano's gonna have to ask herself,

1152
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, do I really think there's an opening here

1153
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: to land this big shot or do I need to

1154
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: go box and match that output. Things could get very

1155
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: interesting there look around that midpoint, because I feel like

1156
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: I know who Taylor's gonna be. I want to see

1157
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: if she can take the power, of course, but I

1158
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: feel like she's gonna be the most consistent. I think

1159
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: it's Serrano because she has more ways to win. It's

1160
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: gonna be up to her how she utilizes that, how

1161
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: she goes to plan B and C and D. Is

1162
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: it gonna be a mixture of styles to win this fight?

1163
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: That's gonna be interesting to watch.

1164
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: Yes, I certainly agree with that.

1165
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, this one's gonna be I have a

1166
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: feeling like I have a feeling that Stevenson's gonna beat

1167
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: up Valdez before it's all said and done. I have

1168
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: a feeling both of these two are gonna get beat

1169
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: up in the process. I could not imagine this one

1170
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: ending before five, even eying, to be perfectly honest with you,

1171
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: it's twelve rounds, right.

1172
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: It's a full twelve ten ten ten, sorry, ten rounds.

1173
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: Even then before the first eight, I can't imagine it

1174
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 3: being stopped. I think this one's gonna go to the judges.

1175
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: And I hate to say it, because you know, boxing

1176
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: judging is what boxing judging is, but we're at the

1177
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 3: mercy of what they're gonna give us in two minute rounds.

1178
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: This one's gonna be super, super, super close, I think.

1179
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see, but my hunch is that this

1180
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 3: is gonna come down to this punch, this wobbling in

1181
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: this round.

1182
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: Adding that, I think you're right, you.

1183
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: Just nailed it, You just nailed it. We're gonna it's

1184
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: gonna be a Barry Tompkins. How do you like it?

1185
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: After Leonard Hagler. It's gonna be like that, Luke. The

1186
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: volume and the accuracy of Taylor mixed with those handful

1187
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: of moments that Serrano wobbles her or hurts her maybe

1188
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: gets a knockdown, who knows. Damn. I do think it's

1189
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: going the distance too. But I think ultimately what separates

1190
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: them is the punching power, and it is the versatility

1191
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: of Serrano, which we cannot forget. She can do it all.

1192
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: She can CounterPunch you from the outside, she can out

1193
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: pure box you, and she's got length and she you know,

1194
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: she knows great footwork, and she can brawl too, and

1195
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: she can punch big. She wins a decision here, Luke,

1196
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: I got Serrano by decision. It could very easily go

1197
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: to Taylor, and I'll be the one telling you know,

1198
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: I scored it the other way. I think it's gonna

1199
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: be that close. But here's what I want. Here's the

1200
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: gift that they can give back to us and back

1201
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: to this women's sport, which which is growing steadily, you know, slowly,

1202
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: but surely, if they can create a need for another

1203
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 1: maybe another, I mean, but at the very least, Luke,

1204
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: if we can come out of this fight Saturday night

1205
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: going Not only was that amazing and it's the best

1206
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: of what women's boxing can bring, but I got to

1207
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: see the sequel and I got to see it next.

1208
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: That's the best case scenario.

1209
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 3: I hope you're right, but I'll just say this, may

1210
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: the best fighter win, and may the judges accurately reflect

1211
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: what happens in the fight.

1212
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: Other than that, I don't have much else to say.

1213
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I hope both women farewell, is what Luke's saying. Okay,

1214
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: I hope they have fun. Thank you, Looke. Don't forget

1215
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: Jesse Vargas Liam Smith on that undercard one hundred and

1216
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: fifty four pound battle which could get really fun. Don't

1217
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: miss out on that. Also, Saturday night, it is time

1218
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: UFC fight Night. Look are we back at the damn Apex?

1219
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Are we?

1220
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? We are?

1221
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: We are? Okay? There you god? Yeah.

1222
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: We could not take this card on the road.

1223
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: A hometown card here we mentioned on Wednesday with the

1224
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: storylines Slim Pickens on the undercard. But a few things

1225
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: you might be able to talk yourself into. You do

1226
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: want to talk yourself into liking Bandam Weight's Rob Font

1227
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: Marlon Vera plus one oh five as we speak, is

1228
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: Vera your betting underdog against the minus one twenty five Font,

1229
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: even though Vera's one two in a row since losing

1230
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: to Jose Aldo. Rob Faugh of course, fresh off the

1231
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: loss to Aldo, which ended his four fight win streak. Luke, Uh,

1232
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: it's telling you we could see five fun ass rounds here. Uh,

1233
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: let's start here, we go the distance here? How are

1234
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: you looking at what it's going to look like when

1235
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: these styles match up.

1236
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: I do think we go the distance unless Cheeto gets

1237
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: the stoppage. I don't think Rob can finish Vera.

1238
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: I mean, folks, don't realize this dude.

1239
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: Vera is tough as shit, like whatever else you want

1240
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: to say about him as a fighter, and he is

1241
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: a very good fighter. But you know, went the distance

1242
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: with John Lineker. I mean you go and look the

1243
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: I think he went the distance with Songy Dong as well.

1244
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: Like this dude is fucking off bro very very tough.

1245
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: So I don't really believe that Font has the firepower

1246
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: to put him away, unless you know, Varah makes a

1247
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: really critical error, and even then I don't think it's

1248
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: going to happen. The other way could happen because Vera

1249
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: has much more of a wide open style relative to

1250
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: Font anyway, and you know, he's a little bit more

1251
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: of a kicker than Font, is a little bit more

1252
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: of a risk taker than Font is I think a

1253
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: little bit more of a submission threat, although that's a

1254
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: little bit dicey as well, but still a little bit

1255
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: more of a submission threat than Font in certain cases. Anyway,

1256
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: So to me, what is this fight about, Rob Font

1257
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: great JAB, much cleaner mechanics, really sits behind it builds

1258
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: offense in that WAYBC five point six to four strikes

1259
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: landing permitted That is very high, and he absorbs three

1260
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: point five to five. That's a little on the high end,

1261
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: but it's a really great positive differential over two full integers.

1262
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: By contrast, Marlon Vera four point eight strikes landing permittent

1263
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: that's pretty good, strikes absorbed four point twenty seven, So

1264
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: he's got a negative differential. Now he can get away

1265
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: with it BC because he is so tough and so durable.

1266
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: But if we're scoring points that obviously ain't great. This

1267
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: is a fight where if Font pay attention to this one,

1268
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: if doesn't matter if he's leading or backing up. If

1269
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: Font is working behind the JAB and Vera has a

1270
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: hard time negotiating the distance as a consequence, it's not

1271
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: a fight Vera can win. I'm looking at ABC, FONTS,

1272
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: JAB and B I'm looking at the leg kicking from Vera.

1273
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: I want to see the leg kicking from Vera. He

1274
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: is a prodigious kicker. He's good at it. He has

1275
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: he's pretty heavy with him. I want to see what

1276
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: he does to slow down Rob vaunts boxing win his

1277
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: Moay tie because he can't beat him with boxing to boxing,

1278
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: but he can beat him with relying on his strengths

1279
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: and then sort of applying them over the game of

1280
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: Rob font.

1281
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's an accurate foundation to build that

1282
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: what we could see in how things might develop here

1283
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: two top ten guys, number five, Rob Fon I believe

1284
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: eight is Vera. We talked about the stakes. You know,

1285
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: it puts them in that in that you know, in

1286
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: that upper room. Okay, these guys are like, we'll start

1287
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: fitting them for their title shot more or less. I mean,

1288
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win a couple more, but you're there.

1289
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: But my casual knowledge will tell you between the two, Luke,

1290
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: I like Vera better on the ground. Oh how does

1291
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: he get it there? Is does it come through looking

1292
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: to shoot or is it more? You know, if it

1293
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: goes there, if he ends up there, it could benefit him.

1294
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this, Rob Font's takedown defense is

1295
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: not that great, just fifty five percent.

1296
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: That's low. That's low for a fighter at this level.

1297
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: That's low.

1298
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: Take Down accuracy for him is thirty six takedown defense

1299
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: for Cheato Vera seventy percent.

1300
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: Much higher.

1301
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: Now, his takedown accuracy is a little bit low, and

1302
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: take down accuracy is a little bit of a misunderstood metric.

1303
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: But suffice to say, yeah, there are opportunities where if

1304
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: you're able to tale if he can slow rob Font

1305
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: down and then time him and get underneath him, or

1306
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: mix it in as part of a combination where Rob

1307
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: Font is really feeling it and has to cover and

1308
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: you know, transfer the defense up top. It's absolutely in play.

1309
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 3: And plus, dude, Cheeto Veric can work from the back

1310
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: as well.

1311
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

1312
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: On the ground, Cheeto Vera, to me, is much much

1313
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: better getting fought there and holding him down hard to do,

1314
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: hard to do, and I mean the totality of it.

1315
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: Obviously only has fifty five percent take down defense, but

1316
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: the totality of keeping him in those positions.

1317
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: Can be quite difficult.

1318
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 3: But dude, is it very possible that Cheto could get

1319
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 3: him down, find the back put on the body triangle

1320
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 3: and hold around a lah Al Jamain sterling to Peter Young, Yes,

1321
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: it is very very very possible in that sense. Again,

1322
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: Cheeto cannot beat Rob Font straight up boxing, he.

1323
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: Can't do it. But there's a lot of other ways

1324
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: where he can make this very very difficult for him.

1325
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: And he's got five rounds to do it. So if

1326
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna go the calfkack method to try to build

1327
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: that foundation, there's time to work with there at the

1328
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: very least. And look, if Cheeto comes out in the

1329
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: difference in striking, because Font's an excellent boxer, if that's

1330
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: wider than even he thought, you know, you can almost

1331
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of take a knockdown or pull a guard to

1332
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: try to hope to change that momentum as you're saying

1333
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: on the ground and get that control. That's something to

1334
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: look forward to. Look, I love when Cheeto just comes out,

1335
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: and most of the time he does. But like care

1336
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: free violent Cheeto vera right, like he mixes those two.

1337
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,479
Speaker 1: He finds the middle ground on that and when he's

1338
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: flowing right, I mean, you know a little bit of

1339
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: Mozbol gangster in that. But like, I just don't think

1340
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: he's figured out how to really get the best out

1341
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: of him yet though, like he's gotten close a couple times.

1342
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: He's on the rise, he's you know, he's an entertaining

1343
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: fighter as shit, but like there's something he's still ironing

1344
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: out that's gonna get him to that next level. I

1345
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: really can't put my finger on one. Is Luke you.

1346
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: Well, he changed trainers, he left Colin Oyama. I honestly,

1347
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: the parts of the game that I she was pretty

1348
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: fucking good.

1349
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1350
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: Maybe the boxing, actually, maybe the pure boxing is the

1351
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: thing that his boxing as a part of a tie

1352
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: boxing game is pretty good. His pure boxing by itself

1353
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: is the part that could be a trouble. But you know,

1354
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: we're well looking at the Edgar fight here. I also

1355
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 3: just wouldn't want to take away his game where he's excelled,

1356
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: like with the elbows, with the front kick right up

1357
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: the middle like he did when when Edgar never saw

1358
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 3: it coming, like that's the Cheeto Vera specially, you don't

1359
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: want to take him away from that. But I do

1360
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 3: think having a few more options in the boxing space

1361
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: to round out your game could really help him. Because

1362
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: he is tough, he is durable, he is in good shape,

1363
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: he is well rounded. Just adding that little extra component

1364
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: could do a lot for him.

1365
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: And he has insanely great violent explosions right of like

1366
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, combinations in worves. But you'd like to see

1367
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: him maintain. You'd like to see him. I mean like

1368
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: he's pretty damn technically strong too. He's ready, He's ready

1369
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: to go here. Luke yet is the betting underdog. We

1370
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 1: know of Font's background the wind streak. Dude, he looked

1371
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: impressive as shit during that win streak which ended with

1372
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: Jose Aldo. Do you do you believe that Font can

1373
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: get right back on the horse and continue to grow,

1374
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: because some guys when they get leveled out more or

1375
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: less they stay that way or they go in the

1376
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: other direction. You know, do you see Rob Fon as

1377
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: a guy that can bounce right back here and win

1378
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: this bigfoot?

1379
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely.

1380
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: Rob Font is well trained, He is very experienced. I

1381
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: think he absolutely believes in himself too, which is a

1382
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 3: really key component of it. That Garb Brandt win I

1383
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: think did a lot for his confidence. And you know,

1384
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: he got outclassed by Jose Aldo, but so what you know,

1385
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: Jose Aldo's Josealdo. I think he took a lot from

1386
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: that experience, and I you know, I don't think he

1387
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 3: just believes he can win, but in the individual components

1388
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: of his game, like you actually talked to him about

1389
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: his jab and his boxing. These are things he really

1390
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: takes a lot of pride in because he's a lot

1391
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: of work into them. You know, he is going in

1392
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: there not a doubt in my mind to win because

1393
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: he not only believes he's the better fighter. I think

1394
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: he believes he's the more technical fighter, and in the

1395
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: space in which he operates, that's generally going to be true.

1396
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: That's the key for Marlon Vera. Cheeto cannot let cannot

1397
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: let this be like if this is a if it

1398
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 3: cannot look like a rob fight, it cannot because he

1399
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: cannot win that way. It has to look more like

1400
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: a wide open kind of fight. And if he gets

1401
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: wide open or Vera's retreating or something excuse me, a

1402
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: fonts retreating, then that's winnable.

1403
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: But as long as.

1404
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: You know this guy's doing this and then sticking the

1405
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 3: jab out and he's on his way, he will win.

1406
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: It's funny. I was just talking about, you know, long term,

1407
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: maybe Cheeto needs to siphon the violence a little so

1408
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: it can sustain better. But look, those violent outbursts, the

1409
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: dramatic swings of momentum are kind of what Cheeto seems

1410
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: to thrive on, right, you know what I mean? Like

1411
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: he responds well in those moments. So look very very well.

1412
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: Like we saw at the top, fac could be piecing

1413
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: him up early. Maybe I do need to see a

1414
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: violent chance taking Vera to dramatically try to take back

1415
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: the momentum when he feels he's lost it. Maybe that's

1416
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: where he's the most dangerous. I don't feel like it's

1417
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: a great long term plan to maximize yourself necessarily, but

1418
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: you can swing and connect your way to big opportunities

1419
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: fighting like that.

1420
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: I will say this too, something we haven't talked about.

1421
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean we mentioned it briefly, the durability of Vera.

1422
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: You know, looking at these slides. You know remember Font

1423
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: went to I think the full distance with Cody and

1424
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: couldn't put him away. I'm not saying that Font can't

1425
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: punch hard. He can, he has some stoppages. What I

1426
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: am saying is, you know, dude, you have to hit

1427
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 3: hit Vera with a fucking sledgehammer if you want any

1428
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: hope of putting him on the canvas, and I don't

1429
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: think Vera, Excuse me, I don't think.

1430
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't think Rob font can do that.

1431
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: So one element of danger here is not really all

1432
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: the various skills that a guy like Chiceto Vera possesses,

1433
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: and those are significant. On top of that, if you

1434
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: don't put him away, dude, he's going to be right

1435
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: in your face in the fifth round.

1436
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: He does not get tired.

1437
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: You know, Rob Faut's ability to stick behind the jab

1438
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: and use lateral movement is great, but that's gonna be

1439
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: tested here because I don't I really have a hard

1440
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: time seeing him substantially hurt Chieo Vera. I can see

1441
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: him winning rounds based off, you know, scoring the more

1442
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: effective damage or whatever, but I cannot see him substantively,

1443
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: like really hurting Vera. And for those reasons and MMA

1444
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 3: being as chaotic as it is, BC, if Vera is

1445
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 3: still in this fifth round and maybe he lost the

1446
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 3: first four, but he's not hurt, dude, he's gonna come

1447
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 3: out like a fucking bat out of hell after Rob

1448
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 3: Faut and that.

1449
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: Will be very very difficult for him. Pay attention to that, dude.

1450
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: The fan in me wants Vera to win this because

1451
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's fun. He's fun of shit to watch, Luke.

1452
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: And I think he's getting great. He's becoming, you know,

1453
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: slowly becoming very very good. Man Font might do this,

1454
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: just piece him up over five rounds, play it technical

1455
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: like he always does. This is the type of opponent

1456
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: that that strategy works the best against, Luke. Rob Font,

1457
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: if he's gonna just be that hard punching technical fighter,

1458
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: just constantly shut off the barriers of entry for vera

1459
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: he may be able to do this and sustain this

1460
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: over five rounds and when and win a clear decision.

1461
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: So I'm going Rob Font here, Luke. You know, I

1462
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: don't care what you think about that though at all.

1463
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: I'll say this.

1464
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like losing to Rob Font is

1465
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 3: some kind of chump move. Due Rob Font is very good.

1466
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: But what I would say is if Cheeto can't figure

1467
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 3: out a way after five rounds to get around what

1468
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: Rob Font is doing, that would be something of a

1469
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 3: major setback for him. Not a setback in a sense

1470
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 3: that you lost to somebody great, that's not a setback,

1471
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 3: but what that if Rob Font wins in that way,

1472
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 3: which is to say, Cheeto loses in that way, you know,

1473
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 3: there might be a little bit of moment of reflection

1474
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 3: about like, how is it possible I could not get

1475
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 3: around this guy's jab for basically twenty five minutes. It

1476
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: would be some moment of reflection there. Oh, of course

1477
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: he could go in there and beat his fucking ass,

1478
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: in which case, no, this is relevant, But just the

1479
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: results here could tell you a lot, man, it could

1480
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 3: tell you a lot. Actually love this fight. I think

1481
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: it's great.

1482
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very good. Do you think the winner here

1483
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: is more likely to fight somebody in and around the

1484
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: same position as them, like a Devlish Wheelie or Luke.

1485
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: Do you see them fighting a higher rank guy coming

1486
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: off a loss, like a san Haagen.

1487
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might get the sand Hagen one, because these

1488
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 3: guys will then move in like for Cheetoh, this will

1489
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: put him top five. For rob this would be like

1490
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: firm stamp top five. And then we've talked about it

1491
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: four on up are all those guys who we think,

1492
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: you know, either could or do what we don't have

1493
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: the title. Yeah, it's got to be and san Hagen's

1494
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 3: looking for a bounce back one. And I think if

1495
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: Chieto beats font that's great. If font wins, that's great.

1496
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: Either.

1497
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 3: The winner of this clearly puts themselves in a position

1498
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 3: for some of the very top dogs in this division.

1499
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: San Haagen needs to get back, and I yeah, I

1500
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: love that idea. I think that's exactly the route that

1501
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 3: they go, and I would, I would, I would welcome it.

1502
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: Uh, Luke, far from a deep part under it. Something

1503
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: to note they reschedule that heavyweight bout it. I think

1504
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: it's on the prelim still, it might be the future

1505
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: prelim when Alexander wro the unbeaten takes on Chase Sherman.

1506
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 1: Luke Romanov a minus twenty two hundred betting favorite. So wow, wow,

1507
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: he has been a hammer dude. He is on a

1508
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: nice run.

1509
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: He is good.

1510
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: He's a good fighter, all right, But when you look

1511
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: up and down this card, Luke, all right, what's gonna

1512
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: be the best fight? That's a this question A in

1513
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: question B which fight? Who can benefit the most from

1514
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: a win on this undercard?

1515
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: Well, to your point, if if Romanov loses to Chase Sherman,

1516
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 3: I would consider that Chase Sherman's best win.

1517
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: Romanov's good and Chase.

1518
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 3: Sherman would I mean that would be a big coming

1519
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 3: in on late notice on top of it, like that

1520
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: would be a really good win for him. I'm gonna

1521
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: say pay attention. I've said it on Wednesday, I'll repeat

1522
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 3: it again. Tetsuro Tyra. I don't know how to pronounced

1523
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: his last name. I don't speak Japanese. This guy's a

1524
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 3: fucking beast. He is good at a valet tudo Japan.

1525
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 3: I believe or shoot, yeah, believe that valetuto Japan. Dude

1526
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 3: under I think he's undefeated as well. He is on tape,

1527
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: on tape, he looks amazing. On tape, he looks amazing.

1528
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: So we'll see what he can do here against a

1529
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 3: guy who does not have a great profile, Carlos Candelaarreo.

1530
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: We'll see, but I have my eye on him. Somebody

1531
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 3: Like It's funny, man, When I first got into MMA,

1532
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 3: you know, right around the two thousands, well, I mean

1533
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 3: I've been watching it for longer than that, but like,

1534
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: you know, getting reinquainted with it. In the early two thousands,

1535
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 3: there were elite Japanese fighters everywhere except maybe the heavyweight division,

1536
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 3: and then Fujiita rock Faeder and you're like, shit, Fujita

1537
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 3: might do it. Here too, and now they've kind of

1538
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: been depleted now that the polar the major polls so

1539
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: to speak of MMA have shifted over to North America

1540
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: and to South America or you know, Brazil anyway, and

1541
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: you know other countries. Now you people have lost sight

1542
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 3: of the fact that Japan used to be a fucking

1543
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 3: factory of elite guys. But there are still some coming

1544
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 3: out of there that are worthy of your respect. We'll

1545
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 3: see what happens with Tetsuro Tyra on Saturday, but he

1546
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: is one to keep your eye on for sure.

1547
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 1: Looks like they got a sweatshop there.

1548
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 3: Of yeah, sweatshot but they but they but they they're

1549
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 3: going to produce them.

1550
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: Luke, there's gonna I'm telling you right now, Darren Elkins

1551
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: and Tristan Connelly are They're gonna go to war.

1552
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: Luke.

1553
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna

1554
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: look like the backside of a seven eleven in Middle America, Luke, Right,

1555
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: that's where that's where you hang out. Inventably, Inevitably, the

1556
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: fight's gonna break out. We saw McDonald's parking lots and

1557
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: have you seen this ship. I grew up in a place, Luke,

1558
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: that gets down in a McDonald's parking lot. All right,

1559
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: I've never gotten busy in a burg King bathroom though,

1560
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean who I mean, who has right?

1561
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: That's a disgusting people. Also great rappers.

1562
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: Great, great rappers, great rappers. Indeed, Luke, I have nothing

1563
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: else to say really about this UFC card.

1564
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, the card's not great.

1565
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, quickly, quickly Andre Peely, Luke, I feel like

1566
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: we want, we want Peely to be, to be, you know,

1567
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: really good and enter title contention. And there's times, I mean, dude,

1568
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: he beat Charles jo and by split decision. There's times

1569
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: that you go, oh he's ready. Now he's coming off

1570
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: a clear loss to Bryce Mitchell and then a no contest.

1571
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: Is there still time? Luke? I mean this. You know

1572
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: he's got flashes of brilliant.

1573
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: I say this. I said it on Wednesday. It's worth repeating.

1574
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 3: Go back and watch the fight with Bryce Mitchell. Yes,

1575
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 3: Bryce Mitchell won, he won fairly, but you compare that

1576
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 3: to what it's and Barboza did. Pheley gave him a

1577
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 3: significantly harder time and probably took the second round. I

1578
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: would argue, maybe, so it was one one heading into

1579
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: the third or or you know, something close to that,

1580
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 3: and then you know Bryce put it on him late

1581
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 3: and Bryce is Bryce. Bryce is very very talented as

1582
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: we now know. So that to me, yes, some work

1583
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 3: for Pheeley to do in the grappling department as relates

1584
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 3: to that. This fight mayor probably won't test that. So

1585
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 3: this is gonna be more of a striking affair. But

1586
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: remember he gave sidik Yusef all he could handle for

1587
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 3: a while as well. Like Pheely has always been like

1588
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 3: right there, right there, right there. This would be a

1589
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: good chance against somebody who doesn't have quite the names

1590
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 3: of you know, Bryce Mitchell or or sidik Yusiff, but

1591
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: a very talented guy just the same in Joe, interested

1592
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: in Brito to really re establish himself and get back

1593
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: in the in the winning column. So tough fight, good fight,

1594
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: winnable for Phely, but it'll be interesting to see how

1595
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: it goes.

1596
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,839
Speaker 1: Luke, did you ever see that movie that mister faber

1597
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: Co financed that Andre Peely started. It was a weed thriller.

1598
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,839
Speaker 2: Dude, I have a voiceover in it. I'm in that movie.

1599
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you're right, You're in the opening scene.

1600
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 2: We have talked about this.

1601
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we have talked about this, Luke. I took

1602
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, a free copy of that in in exchange

1603
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: of interviewing Faber, and it was, you know, it's fun whatever.

1604
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: It was great, favor is great. But then I watched

1605
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: the movie, Luke, and I went from going, oh man,

1606
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: this this is low budget and it sucks to you know,

1607
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: this is actually pretty good. You know they're doing an

1608
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 1: interesting twist to oh my god, there's violent is shit? Dude?

1609
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: Like what Like, wow, this one's crazy, Luke, that's a

1610
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: good watch. Did you watch the movie?

1611
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: I have not seen it. I have not seen it.

1612
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I need you to watch it. Touchy Feely's good

1613
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: in it too.

1614
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 3: You're not the only person to tell me that, by

1615
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 3: the way, someone else has told me that too. I

1616
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 3: forget who, but I've heard it from a few different places.

1617
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 3: I think it was maybe my co work a serious

1618
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 3: xmdback in the day.

1619
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's like a January sixth thriller of

1620
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: the movie. It's great, Luke. You know, people, a lot

1621
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: of people will love it. It's it's it's it's fun

1622
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: and games.

1623
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: All right.

1624
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: That's it for the UFC card. Luke, let's go quickly

1625
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: to topic five. I think we've got a uh uh a

1626
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: John Jones update, Luke. Uh, there's been some tweeting, and

1627
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: here's a John Jones tweet regarding his possible return. It

1628
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: says Stepe is saying he will be at his absolute

1629
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: peak in September. I'm disappointed but patient. I want the

1630
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: heavyweight goat at his absolute best. I'll wait until September.

1631
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: No excuses, Luke. You and I, by the way, both

1632
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: have uh interviews to watch right now on YouTube dot

1633
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: com slash Morning Combat. You talked to rosenami Unis yesterday.

1634
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: I talked to Juliana Paena the day before, so everybody

1635
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: check out both of them. The great but Pena was like,

1636
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 1: I want to be on the Jones Steepe card against

1637
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: Amanda in September. I want the money. I want to

1638
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: be on the big one. Luke, it's starting to feel

1639
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: like it's gonna happen, not July like UFC wanted, but

1640
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: maybe in September we get there. No hiccups. Interim title,

1641
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

1642
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know many a man has been uh

1643
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 3: you know, what is it? The best laid plans of

1644
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 3: mice and men, right. I hope, I hope, But I'll

1645
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: also say I don't want folks to forget this. Everyone

1646
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: wants to just forget this. Dude had all these like

1647
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 3: insane life problems. You know, we're supposed to forget about

1648
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: that because he's a prize fighter on some level, that's

1649
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: not our business on some level. To an extent, it

1650
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: can be either way, though. The thing I care most about,

1651
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, like, I only want John

1652
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 3: Jones fighting if he's actually, like really trying to get healthy.

1653
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: If he's actually not trying to get healthy, he's just

1654
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 3: doing the same old bullshit in one method or the other,

1655
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 3: then I really don't give a fuck if he ever

1656
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 3: comes back to be to be quite candid, so we'll see,

1657
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: like I would like, I'll believe it when I see it.

1658
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not gonna happen. But with John

1659
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: man like, you cannot firmly make plans.

1660
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 2: With this dude. You cannot.

1661
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: Like dinner plans or like any business.

1662
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 3: Life plans, scheduling plans anything. He is simply not reliable.

1663
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 3: Which isn't to say that every time it falls through,

1664
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 3: but he is not consistent enough.

1665
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna be the blind optimist. We're gonna

1666
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 1: get this fight. It's going to be for the interim title.

1667
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is a pretty badass fucking fight

1668
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: to sell. It's like the greatest heavyweight of all time

1669
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: and our under our banner against the not only the

1670
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: greatest light heavyweight who's moving up, but the greatest fighter

1671
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: of all time. I mean, look, dude, John Joes is

1672
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: the goat, Luke. I mean, he's the damn goat.

1673
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: Yes he is.

1674
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 3: I mean everyone wants to talk about Hamzat's rise, and

1675
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 3: maybe people were disappointed, maybe they weren't with the last fight.

1676
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 3: I'll just say this on all my time, I've never

1677
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 3: seen anyone else do what John did, right. I live

1678
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 3: right through his ascension and I've not seen anyone else

1679
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: do that.

1680
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: Dude. There are great fighters in all combat sports that

1681
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: come on the scene and sometimes they're flashy and you

1682
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to believe them, and usually

1683
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: your tests to decide whether you're going to give in

1684
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: and love them is do they have that backbone? Do

1685
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: they have those intangibles? Dude? I forget personally, John's got issues.

1686
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: They're recurring issues. But in the in the fight surface,

1687
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: in this in the cage, Luke.

1688
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 2: He's a genius.

1689
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: He's a not only a genius, he's a ten out

1690
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: of freaking ten, rock solid chin punch resistance, ability to

1691
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 1: navigate while her I mean, Luke, he's a That's why

1692
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: he's the goat at the end of the day. The

1693
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: flashy stuff, the long arms, the IQ, all that stuff

1694
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: can get you there too, but to also be that

1695
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: dude at the end of the day. And now we're

1696
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: gonna see him against a steepe who every time I

1697
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: doubt him, Luke, he comes through with something huge and

1698
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: knocks out Daniel Cormier. You know what I'm saying, This

1699
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: could be This could.

1700
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 3: Be an epic an epic battle, or it couldn't, or

1701
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: it ends up being one sided one way or the other.

1702
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 3: Either John has completely recaptured all of the greatness that

1703
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 3: he once had and he'll tear into him or steep

1704
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 3: A finds another gear and John can't get over. By

1705
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 3: the way, the other part is he's been gone what

1706
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 3: three years or some shit that point, like some crazy

1707
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: ass long layoff, Like what's he gonna look like after

1708
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 3: all that time?

1709
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be rusty, Like, I mean, you know

1710
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: what can happen?

1711
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: When Roy Jones got knocked out by Tarvor, dude, it

1712
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: was like, I think in sports history that's one of

1713
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: the biggest gut punch moments ever, no matter who you

1714
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of Roy or not to see

1715
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: the you know, like the guy to see the the

1716
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan of the sport at that time,

1717
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, just hit that wall. And of course it

1718
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: happened again in the next fight against Glenn Johnson, but

1719
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: it was just like, oh my god, it's over like

1720
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: they they caught up to him, like they and it's over.

1721
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: Like that's also in place, sadly for Jones as well, Luke,

1722
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's why, Yes, I think

1723
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: him being out so long has really added back some

1724
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: juice and almost romance to the idea of him coming

1725
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: back with all these uncertainties, Like like I'm not saying

1726
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: it's great for his life. I'm saying just to be

1727
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: juiced up for a fight. It's all there with this,

1728
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: It's all that monom.

1729
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this could be.

1730
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 3: This could be, depending if you're a Stipe or Jones fan. Epically, disappointing,

1731
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: epically disappointing in the sense of not a bad fight

1732
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 3: per se, but Stepe looks old as shit or John

1733
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: looks like he hadn't picked up a fucking you know.

1734
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: H mma, g love to hit pads or whatever in

1735
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 3: three years. Like I mean, I'm not sure. I'm sure

1736
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 3: that's not the case. Not a direction, but who knows

1737
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 3: exactly what level you're going to get. We know what

1738
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 3: they're at at their best or what we think is

1739
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 3: their best. Do we get more than that? Do we

1740
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: get less than that? Like there's there's no way to know.

1741
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 3: There's just no way to know. And so this is

1742
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 3: why they got to fight it out quickly.

1743
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: Look, we had the second hard on the twenty twenty

1744
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: two PFL season on Thursday night.

1745
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 2: I fell asleep at my desk watching it.

1746
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah from Arlington, Texas. To put you they should be

1747
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: like if they could have a fighting cage smart enough

1748
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: Luke to know that and sense that and wake you

1749
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: up with a text.

1750
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: You know, I got a feeling, b Seed that cage

1751
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: ain't all that smart. I really am beginning to question

1752
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 3: that brandw.

1753
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: Dude, I bet you that cage has access to your

1754
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: search history. Like, I guarantee it. Dude, that's that cage

1755
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: way smarter than you.

1756
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: If I turn the cage up down, does it spell

1757
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: the word boobs?

1758
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: I hope, I do hope. Anyway, Luke, it did go

1759
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,879
Speaker 1: down at Each Sports Stadium Arlington. Wow, that's that's that's

1760
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: a thing, Luke. Look, I watched it. It was fun.

1761
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was a fun watch.

1762
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm only saying that. I want to be clear. I'm

1763
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 3: not hitting off PFL. I only fell asleep because I

1764
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 3: was sick and I took medicine.

1765
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: I didn't. I'm not saying it was some shit shows.

1766
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: It was fine. It was good. It was good.

1767
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: Uh. It's worth talking about the heavyweight main event though,

1768
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,839
Speaker 1: because Bruno Capaloza from Brazil.

1769
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: Do you is he the most reliable guy in the PFL. God,

1770
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: he's getting better.

1771
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 1: So he wins last year's heavyweight tournament, is involved in

1772
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: some really fun fights, but yet his durable as ship

1773
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: and you know it kind of has a glover to

1774
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: share a edge to him in some ways, like you

1775
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: can kind of see that swagger. Maybe it's just the

1776
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: bald head, but Luke, he came back in even better shape. Dude,

1777
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: He's bricked off man like he's lean and muscular and

1778
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: ready to do damage, and he put it on Stuart

1779
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: Austin here. Uh you know the power. It moved Austin

1780
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: and it moved him to the canvas. Luke, Damn. We

1781
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: saw some ground action from Bruno as well. Luke, I

1782
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: don't know how old this guy is, but like he's

1783
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,520
Speaker 1: coming on a bit, like we gotta watch out for him.

1784
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he's great.

1785
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what you love about PFL is like,

1786
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 3: is every fight great? Do you like all the tournaments?

1787
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 3: And there's a lot that goes into watching the PFL experience.

1788
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 3: But one of the better parts I like is listen.

1789
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 3: UFC and Dana White's Contender series are not going to

1790
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 3: discover every interesting fighter.

1791
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 2: In the space.

1792
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 3: It's not going to happen, even if they have close

1793
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 3: to or at monopolistic control the industry. There's gonna be

1794
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: other places. If you're an MMA fan and you want

1795
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 3: to see the best MMA fights, Yes, the majority of

1796
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 3: them are going to be in the UFC, but a

1797
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: lot of them are going to be in PFL and

1798
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: Belt or in one and other kinds of places, and

1799
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: it's worth looking around and seeing what else is out there?

1800
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: This has been such whoever scouted and found this guy?

1801
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 3: You know, could he have the same success if he

1802
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 3: was fighting the very best in his weight class in

1803
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 3: the UFC. I don't know, but I don't want to know.

1804
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 3: I like exactly what he's doing. I don't need anything

1805
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 3: else from Bruno other than exactly what he has done.

1806
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 3: It's been to your point. He won last season's tournament,

1807
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 3: so he has already enriched himself and made himself a

1808
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 3: bit of a name. And this guy is fucking reliable

1809
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 3: for just insane punishing action every single time, winning in

1810
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 3: the one round last night or less than a round.

1811
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 3: So I just love everything about what he's doing. I

1812
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: like the PFL found them. I like that they feature

1813
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: him in the top of cards. This is great, dude.

1814
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: PFL has found not just Brooke Cabalazzo, but other guys

1815
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 3: Houseman Fiel and a bunch of other ones who are like, Wow.

1816
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: Well gez guys. And seeing the shape he was in

1817
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: Lucy reminded me of like when the first season of

1818
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: a TV show does better than people thought and it

1819
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: gets popular, and then the offseason even the nerdy characters

1820
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: are coming back bricked up with like, you know, nice

1821
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: haircuts and stuff because they because they want to be stars.

1822
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: This guy came back ready to get noticed this year.

1823
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: And yes, I wonder what his ceiling is, you know,

1824
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: I mean he's six foot two. At first glance, he

1825
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: sort of looks like an undersized heavyweight. But he doesn't

1826
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: fight like on Luke. You know, he fights like a banger.

1827
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:03,959
Speaker 2: No, he fights like a marauder.

1828
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got some And we did see his

1829
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: guest tank tested last season too. You know, he was

1830
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: in some crazy fights, so keep your eyes on him.

1831
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: But Luke, did you see the other heavyweight, uh guy

1832
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: jumping through your screen here, six foot eight, Hennin Fajita.

1833
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: Did you see his twenty five second ko?

1834
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 2: Saw? I saw the ko on social media. I did

1835
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: not watch the fight, love.

1836
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean he ran over him, Luke,

1837
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: And like I looked him up last year. He was

1838
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: the guy who fought to that no contest with Verdom

1839
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: and then had two wins. But I don't think he

1840
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: advanced to the playoffs or I don't know if he

1841
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: was pulled from the tournament. I don't know what happened, Luke,

1842
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: but he's you know, he hasn't lost in the PFL.

1843
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: He's a monstrous Uh. This is interesting. If he gets

1844
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: to the end against Capeloza Luke, that'll be an interesting fight.

1845
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: Who was the guy that fought in Pride they used

1846
01:24:55,160 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 3: to call monstro or Oh, there was this giant Brazilian

1847
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 3: dude who was like six eight six nine, I mean

1848
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: on a poster. Could not be more intimidating. And every time, no, no, no, no.

1849
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 3: Jid Silva was like a seven footer. This guy was

1850
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 3: bald headed. I'll find his name. But he would fight

1851
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 3: uh in Pride and you'd be like, you know, they

1852
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 3: would do the the ring introductions and he'd look over

1853
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: him and you'd be like, god, damn.

1854
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 2: His name was so intimidating.

1855
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: Like.

1856
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no he was.

1857
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 3: He was very muscular, he had a bald head. Zuzino

1858
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 3: was a big old fat dude who now does slap

1859
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 3: fighting in Russia. To make him, he would get it

1860
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 3: would look dude, you would look across the octave or

1861
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 3: the ring. He'd be like, oh my god, who what

1862
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: man alive could beat this dude? And then he would

1863
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 3: get flat lined. Every time he was shitty and fighting.

1864
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:46,799
Speaker 2: He wasn't very.

1865
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: He's Bob Sap. I got it. Now, Look I got it.

1866
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: I got Bob Sapp. Just Bob Sap just quit. This

1867
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: guy didn't quit, he would just lose. Yo.

1868
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: Bob Sap wasn't some bangers before he started quitting all

1869
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: the rest of them, Luke, I mean he was in

1870
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: some all or nothing affairs. Wow, I'll look, did were

1871
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: you moved at all? By featherweight? Chris Wade putting another

1872
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: l on Lance Palmer here by.

1873
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: Unanimous decision, somewhat surprised.

1874
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: Somewhat surprised in the sense of I thought, you know,

1875
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 3: Palmer has won this tournament what too at least two times?

1876
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not doing well lately, Luke.

1877
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 3: Okay, you know he has certainly run into some problems

1878
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 3: since then there's.

1879
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: Thirty five he's lost three in a row.

1880
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little bit older now, But dude, I mean,

1881
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,440
Speaker 3: Lance Palmer is one of those guys that like forfeited

1882
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: ever going to like a major show to make as

1883
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: much money as possible, And he did. And I don't

1884
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 3: think people realize, like Lance Palmer has made more than

1885
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 3: a ton of very high level popular UFC fighters. He

1886
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have the people you know, marching him down in

1887
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 3: public for autographs in the same way.

1888
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 2: But that bank account is looking nice.

1889
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably got a shit ton.

1890
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 2: Of doze Luke, that doge coin player.

1891
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 1: I'll look also in the Featherway bracket, Brendan lochanon the

1892
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: man who was denied a Dana White contract despite winning

1893
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: that fight because he wrestled too much. Luke. He had

1894
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: to go to the wrestling in this one because Ryoji

1895
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: Kudo was putting it on him hammer time.

1896
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 2: I saw that dropped him.

1897
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: But then Kudo had the cut on his head and

1898
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: they were like, no, no, he can't continue on the hairline.

1899
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting, But we go to a

1900
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: technical decision and lockan In gets the win here Luke,

1901
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: twenty nine to twenty eight across the board. I don't know,

1902
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: man Kudo could have won that, but Brendan was turning

1903
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: things around. It felt like he sort of escaped with

1904
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: it though to some degree.

1905
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: H Well, Brendan Lockton's very good.

1906
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 3: You know, he's got a lot of ability, including when

1907
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 3: you know, they ability to fight out of deficits and whatnot,

1908
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 3: so that is not altogether surprising. But again, you know,

1909
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 3: they're not the US. He's not gonna find every great

1910
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 3: piece of talent from everywhere. Another guy from Japan that

1911
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 3: we're taken seriously. Also, BC, I found the guy who

1912
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 3: I was talking about. It's Hiccardo Moreish. And he fought

1913
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 3: at Pride eight. He got beat by Mark Coleman. He

1914
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 3: fought at Pride Bushido six, he got beat by Alexander Emlionenko,

1915
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 3: and then they gave him Lee te Hung and he

1916
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 3: won that one via TKO at eight minutes of Pride

1917
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 3: FC Final Conflict absolute six eight six nine, two hundred

1918
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 3: and seventy pounds. He looked the motherfucking part, but he

1919
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: usually got his ass whooped at the higher level.

1920
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, but did he wear a wife beater in

1921
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: the yachtagon like my man Harold Howard Luke? Okay, I

1922
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: mean that's coming on, dude. I mean seriously, did you

1923
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: see those kid, those those like running flip kicks that

1924
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Howard was trying to hit two? What do you call that, Luke?

1925
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 2: Uh an act?

1926
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: No?

1927
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 2: A rolling thunder?

1928
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just breaking those things out like it

1929
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: was like it was similar to that guitar solo that

1930
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: Marty McFly did in the nineteen fifty five Enchantment under

1931
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the Sea Dance, Luke, I know, isn't that amazing?

1932
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, They're like, it's like, hey, you know

1933
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 3: this music that like black dudes invented, Let's send a

1934
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 3: white dude back in time to take it from him.

1935
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't walk.

1936
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Through that was that was a commentary. I didn't realize that. No,

1937
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: one of the greatest movies of all time.

1938
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 3: And he's like I was like, and then and then

1939
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 3: the other black dudes like calling Chuck Berry on the phones,

1940
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 3: like you got to hear this kid.

1941
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: It's like, y'all just stole Chuck Berry's ship on this one.

1942
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: Okay it was his cousin, Yeah, Luke, Wow, too bad.

1943
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: Jay Aaron ruined it by doing this giant documentary where

1944
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: he like interviews Michael J. Fox and stuff.

1945
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 2: You know, did anybody see that?

1946
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: I mean, did anybody No, It's it's it's on Hulu again, dude.

1947
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: It shout out to j Aaron. He he dude, he lingers. Okay,

1948
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: he's like the kram.

1949
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 2: I Like he's like the COVID in my lungs.

1950
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, do you care about anything else? Luke,

1951
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Bubba Jenkins taking a decision from Kyle Bakniak. You got

1952
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 1: Shaman Rice decisioning Boston Samon.

1953
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,839
Speaker 3: Think Jenkins uh dropped his opponent like three or four times.

1954
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 3: But if you watch the end of the fight, Jenkins

1955
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 3: had a fucked up eye, like he got out what

1956
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 3: I was saying, he got he got a little lucky,

1957
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 3: I guess I would say, I mean he won handily

1958
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 3: in the sense of who was the better fighter. But

1959
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 3: it's one of those things where it's like Ounto Vahlin

1960
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury if the cut you know, it wasn't a

1961
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 3: cut in this case, but like if an injury could

1962
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 3: have derailed it all of a sudden, like his eye

1963
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 3: was messed up at the end. So good win for

1964
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 3: Bubba Jenkins getting back on the horse, but got a

1965
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 3: little at the end there.

1966
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Hey, hey, PFL you did it again, Luke.

1967
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: It was a fun watch, so thank you.

1968
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: Hey. Can the PFL smart cage fix my cold?

1969
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: Can it fix my coal? And I mean, please, come on,

1970
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Can the.

1971
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 3: PFL smart cage do anything other than How's fighters, which,

1972
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 3: by the way, a dumb cage can do just as well.

1973
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: It can show you the miles pro hour of your

1974
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,759
Speaker 1: body movements and and yeah.

1975
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 3: Yes, see what does it mean if a punch is

1976
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 3: twenty one miles an hour versus being let's say twenty two.

1977
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: It all depends on the torqu Luke at the end

1978
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: of the right. Okay, that's it for topics this week, Luke.

1979
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: But since we say just we say a lot of

1980
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,719
Speaker 1: bullshit into this microphone, we do give you an option

1981
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,919
Speaker 1: to call us out on it. Morning Combat at gmail

1982
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: dot com is the emailed home of our address for

1983
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: Wednesday's fan subs. And every Friday when we take a

1984
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: chance of sitting on that l and telling you how

1985
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: it feels like because one time we was good roll Batch. Yeah,

1986
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: all right, we start with Adam. Dude, do we is

1987
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: it one guy or do we have like fifty people

1988
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 1: named Adam that watched the show live.

1989
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot of people who are like, hey,

1990
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 3: what's the name of your kid?

1991
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, mother fucking Adam or whatever?

1992
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, yeah, uh they say hey, Luke. At

1993
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 1: one thirty six of Monday Show, you stated that Liam

1994
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: Badco had a crazy fight for one championship. That's stead wrong.

1995
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: The fighter you are looking for is Liam Harrison. It's

1996
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: understandable because you have to shit like Kish. Sorry, shit

1997
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: like Kish, but you are a fat person. Check them

1998
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 1: next time? Kidding?

1999
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 3: Oh dude, did they did they really do this? Did

2000
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 3: they just did they just put a gun in their

2001
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 3: mouth on this one? Liam Harrison is Liam Badco? You

2002
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 3: fucking idiot. It's the same guy, Liam Badco is his

2003
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 3: is his motherfucking Is there his Instagram handle?

2004
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: Oh you just dude? No, no, no, you might. You

2005
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: will not sex the Butombo, Luke, you just.

2006
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely who wants to sex the Kimbae? Not this fucking idiot. Bro,

2007
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 3: It's the same fucking guy. It's like, Bro, that was

2008
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 3: not Batman. That was Bruce Wayne. Motherfucker that is Bruce Wayne.

2009
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: Oh frenkl is Einhorn? Dude, ally the.

2010
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: Big old mister Knish.

2011
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, there's there. It is right on time, Thank

2012
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 1: you very much, dude.

2013
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 3: People, I swear to god, man, does anyone double check

2014
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 3: their shit? Does anyone double check their shit?

2015
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: Not a single person? Darryl's hair. He says Happy Friday

2016
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Donks on Wednesday's episode at the beginning of topic one,

2017
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: when discussing font versus Vera, Luke says, quote, both of

2018
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: these guys are coming off wins of so of the

2019
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: bigger names of the division.

2020
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah that's wrong.

2021
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luca's dead wrong. Font was actually coming off the

2022
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: loss to Aldough. Thanks for the fantastic show. Have an

2023
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: amazing weekend. It's Darryl all right.

2024
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, very pair.

2025
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,879
Speaker 3: See that's an l take that ol I had forgotten.

2026
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 3: I thought that for some reason in my mind, I

2027
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 3: had thought that the Garbrandt fight was the last fight

2028
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 3: that he had had, like sequentially, So that was the

2029
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 3: reason I got that wrong.

2030
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 2: But that is wrong. That is very wrong, all right.

2031
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: Hi Luke and Brian Dia Stefano. He even gave me

2032
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: a pronunciation, showed me how to do it from Chicago here,

2033
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: and I'm including the pronunciation, so bcak t o Gringo

2034
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mispronounce it, but wouldn't be surprised if he still

2035
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: does this. Dead wrong is for Luke. On episode two

2036
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: ninety four this past Wednesday, when discussing weekend storylines, specifically

2037
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 1: with andre Arlovsky being back, Luke said his last loss

2038
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't come until tom Aspinall, which was in February of

2039
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 1: twenty ten. I don't think a seventeen year old Aspinall

2040
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: would have been able to get the drop on our

2041
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,759
Speaker 1: Lawski back then, but a twenty seven year old would.

2042
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: The fight actually happened on February twentieth, twenty twenty one,

2043
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: where Aspinall got a sub two. Probably just a case

2044
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 1: of the Wednesdays for Luke loved the show, and happy

2045
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: belated birthday to Violetta. Stay washed up, gentlemen, and.

2046
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

2047
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 3: By the way, everyone mispronounces my daughter's name everywhere we go.

2048
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like, hey, is Violetta here. I'm like, no,

2049
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 2: Violetta here, you fucking jerk job.

2050
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 1: But anyway, hey, hey is that too? Is that tuky? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

2051
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: that's great.

2052
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,839
Speaker 2: I should just start putting tuky on her fucking things. Anyway.

2053
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's I don't know what the fuck I

2054
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 3: why I said that, but that's quite clearly wrong, so

2055
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 3: I'll take that.

2056
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,919
Speaker 1: L Hey, here we go. This one's from Greg on Mondays.

2057
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: Have you seen this shit? While discussing future Bellator megastar

2058
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Danny Sabatello, BC was dead wrong when he stated that

2059
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Sabotello's win over Jordelle Lugo came via submission my guy

2060
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 1: BC be more washed than we thought in suffering from

2061
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: short term memory loss because Danny's victory actually came in

2062
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: the form of a dominant UD, not a submission. Ps

2063
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: rafe On Statts is a goddamn Locke to win this

2064
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: Grand Prix, and you better believe he's gonna break dance

2065
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 1: all over Sergey Pettis's but at bomb Ass Wrestling Defense

2066
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: when the time comes. Wow, this guy Greg, He's wow,

2067
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's he said it, Luke, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2068
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: all right, this one's from Sahi. At forty nine sixteen

2069
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: of Wednesday's show, Luke says that the Ovechkin quote that

2070
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: the Local Cabs blog is named after his Russian machine

2071
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 1: Don't Break. The quote is, in fact Russian machine never breaks,

2072
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: and the blog shares this name. Love the show, Go

2073
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Cabs and Luke thanks for always repping the DMV and India.

2074
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: It's Sahi, Luke.

2075
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, do I rep India?

2076
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 1: Not removing that from his Wikipedia page right now?

2077
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that's funny, that's funny.

2078
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I'm sorry about that.

2079
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 3: I thought it was Russian machine don't break, but it's

2080
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 3: never break. Yeah, it's a good break on occasion.

2081
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 1: One more for you, Luke. It's from Michael and Oscar.

2082
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 3: I've been told that this is not actually a dead

2083
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: wrong on the witch Case. I'm gonna fucking murder this guy,

2084
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 3: but go ahead.

2085
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: In this Friday's episode, when talking about Liz Carmush competing

2086
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: for the belt or a flyweight belt, Luke said quote, I

2087
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: always cheer for former marines.

2088
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: That's right, I do.

2089
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dead wrong. There's no such thing as a

2090
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: former marine.

2091
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Bc BC.

2092
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 3: I keep doing this, and I keep having people who

2093
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 3: want to come at the King and they just like,

2094
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 3: I cannot imagine how many. I don't understand why people

2095
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 3: sign up and say, hey, Luke, can you please dunk

2096
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 3: on me in public? And I'm like, well, I guess

2097
01:36:55,880 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 3: I like taking requests, so I'll do that, you fucking jackass.

2098
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,520
Speaker 3: Former marine is not only acceptable, it is the preferred

2099
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 3: way to refer to someone. What you cannot say and

2100
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 3: what marines get mad about, Hello, I was in the

2101
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 3: Marine Corps for seven motherfucking years, is you cannot call

2102
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 3: them an ex marine. That's what you cannot call them.

2103
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 3: That is when they get pissed calling them a former

2104
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 3: marine is actually not just acceptable, it's the preferred method.

2105
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 3: So lick my motherfucking balls, you pogue civilian, nasty piece

2106
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 3: of shit.

2107
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow, misdirected hostility.

2108
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, do not come to me with I'm gonna tell

2109
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 3: this marine how it actually goes in the Marine Corps.

2110
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: You don't know shit. I live the life.

2111
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 3: I stood on the yellow footprints of Paris Island. Do

2112
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 3: not lecture me about what we say. You do not rate?

2113
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 3: I rate?

2114
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Sit down now, somebody get me my leather European man bag.

2115
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: Where the hell's my vaate pen? All right, there I go,

2116
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it.

2117
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 3: I'm scared if I I'm scared if I if I,

2118
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 3: if I pull one, then it's gonna end up coughing

2119
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 3: up my lungs.

2120
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 2: Yes.

2121
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Can you keep that away from two key? Thank you

2122
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: very much? Okay, morningcombat at gmail dot com also once

2123
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: again your email address if you want to send in

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Speaker 1: your own dead wrongs, fan subs, whatever. Don't forget. Every

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Speaker 1: Sunday night only on Instagram at morning Combat we put

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Speaker 1: out the feelers for d ms from donks. You can

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Speaker 1: leave your questions there. Here are our our thirst trap

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Speaker 1: follow links here if you want to get involved on

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Speaker 1: some get inside Luke. You want to get inside Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: that's where you can do that, all right. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: don't need Elon Musk for that, Luke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see you've been following Valerie Laredo on Instagram?

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Speaker 1: Dude, what one of the co hosts of the show

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Speaker 1: constantly texts me pictures of our IG updates. So I

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Speaker 1: don't have to, Luke. Okay, apparently you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. I have never

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Speaker 3: heard of that wasn't me. Yeah, yeah, just got to

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Speaker 3: bring out the shaggy defense.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: They even did it in the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you. I think that's it, Luke.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got. That's the whole show. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: the whole Anchelada.

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Speaker 2: All right, bro, what are you doing this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Watching boxing and doing a morning combat Instant reaction after

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Speaker 1: both main events comes Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Night, I am probably going to be I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be dying of full blown AIDS. I'm guessing

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Speaker 3: by Saturday. But if that doesn't happen, if I don't die,

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Speaker 3: I am going to take my kid to gymnastics training

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Speaker 3: and uh wow yeah, and then have a picnic on

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Speaker 3: Sunday with the fam.

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Speaker 1: What nationality is her coach? Hopefully Romanian?

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Speaker 2: No American? American, dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to turn her into some Olympian and

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Speaker 3: she just likes hanging the monkey bars and you know,

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Speaker 3: run around the little kid, Jym.

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Speaker 1: Hey, have fun, Tookey, you deserve it. Okay, happy third

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Speaker 1: birthday from from uncle Gringo over here.

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Speaker 3: Luke, b she got so many fucking gifts. It's I

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Speaker 3: can't believe it's, man, I gotta tell you, I cannot

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Speaker 3: It's it's I didn't know what it was like to

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Speaker 3: have a family that like super cares about you until

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Speaker 3: she came around. And then I saw her her Colombian

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Speaker 3: family do they flew here from Columbia just for her

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Speaker 3: third fucking birthday? Gifts in tow like like she had

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Speaker 3: won the fucking lottery or something. I've never seen anything

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Speaker 3: like that. Meanwhile, my family didn't even call Tooky to

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Speaker 3: which your happy.

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Speaker 1: Birthday, father, Luke. She did win that lottery, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Luke, I guess so, bro, I guess so Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: embrace that.

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Speaker 1: We love you, folks, out there. Thank you for liking

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Speaker 1: the show, following us all that good stuff. Take care

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Speaker 1: of yourself. Okay, folks, have a great weekend. Shouting out

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Speaker 1: Long Island Gaff Corey or Mikey morml. Our team behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes. There's more than just them. That guy RJ

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Speaker 1: makes a bunch of merch. In fact, hold on, speaking

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Speaker 1: be drinking out of this mugg and while you wear

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Speaker 1: this hat and you know, yeah, yeah, man, there we go.

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Speaker 1: But thank you to our team, our listeners. I just

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Speaker 1: love fighting, and we got we got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: great fights this weekend, so buckle up, enjoy them. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: boxing wins right sometimes Luke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sometimes not with our audience, but sometimes.

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Speaker 1: That's Luke Thomas. My name is Brian Campbell. I got

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Speaker 1: two more words for you. We outa here,