1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything. So don't welcome America to a an 3 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: emergency update episode of Worst Year Ever. Uh and this 4 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: is this is an episode we didn't expect to record, 5 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: but we have to do to some absolutely critical events 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: that that you need to be informed about, something that 7 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: has changed the landscape of America. Yet again. I'm of 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: course talking about the fact that that Joe Biden appears 9 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: to have soiled himself in an interview. Um. Oh, what 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: a setup and punchline. Yeah, out of the park got him. 11 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean the first half. I did call that at 12 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: the very start of this whole project, in the first 13 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: half of the year too, So I'm proud of that 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: that that prediction. Um. And I'd rather talk about yeah, yeah, 15 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I would rather talk about Mr Biden's fart than the 16 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: story that we are going to talk about because it 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: involves horrific police brutality. Um. So I thought that was 18 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: a gentle introduction. No, we're yeah, And we also we 19 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: don't want to be irresponsible to we don't want to 20 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: make funny to me, we don't want to share fake news. 21 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: It's like some excellent phrases. It does. Yeah, it's like 22 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: really like inspirational, absolutely nothing to do with what we're 23 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: about to talk about. I would definitely push for that 24 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: to be the title anyway, Robert continue. Yes, So this, this, 25 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: the actual thing that we're talking about, is a very 26 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: sad story. UM. It's the of of George Floyd, who 27 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: was um accosted by four police officers in Minneapolis on Monday, 28 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: uh and was arrested on on suspicion of like passing 29 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: forged bills. UM. Footage of him actually being arrested. Uh. 30 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: There there's footage both like people filming the police and 31 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: of like footage from a security camera. Uh. It does 32 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: not show him resisting in any way. UM. Not that 33 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: that would justify what came next. One officer put his 34 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: knee on Mr. Floyd's neck while he was on the 35 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: ground and held it there for more than five minutes 36 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: until he suffocated to death. And you know, throughout that process, 37 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: multiple other officers until eventually four officers were all on 38 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Mr Floyd helping to hold him down while he was 39 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: essentially strangled. UM. So that that is the inciting incident 40 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: for what has become. You know, we're now in what 41 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: is our our second day of protests in the city 42 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: of Minneapolis. After this video went vi roll, people started 43 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: taking to the streets in large numbers. The mayor announced 44 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: that all four officers had been fired, um, but they 45 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: were not arrested, and so a number of things were 46 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: set in a motion at this point. For one thing, 47 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: just people started taking to the streets like they do 48 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: to to protest largely peacefully. UM. Some other things that 49 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: happened were a mix of people online found access to, uh, 50 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: the the address of the officer primarily responsible for the 51 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: death of Mr Floyd UM, and they started sharing that. 52 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: And it was weird because I was following this as 53 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: it was all breaking. It was a mix of you know, 54 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: activists who are enraged this guy being like this is 55 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: where he lives. Um. But there was also like right 56 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: wing people, boogaloo types um. And this is like a 57 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: major dimension of this protest because there's there's been this 58 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: movement growing in the United States kind of started on 59 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: four Chan and then kind of got free and to 60 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: read it and Facebook and it's it's the boogaloo. This 61 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: is something that you've talked extensively about. Yeah, I've been cats. Yeah, 62 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I've been following these the evolution of this for a 63 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: while because it's not and there's a bunch of misconceptions 64 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: I kept seeing crop up. There was a lot of people, 65 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and particularly like some black activists, who thought the boogaloo 66 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: was kind of a synonym for race war, and I 67 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: don't think that's accurate. There's certainly a sizeable minority of 68 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: the group who see it is that, um, but there's 69 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: also like a lot of guys, a lot of the 70 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: people because I was following this community both in in 71 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: Minnesota and across the country as they reacted to the 72 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: growing protests to the video of Mr Floyd's murder, and 73 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's a chunk of them that I think 74 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: are kind of callously trying to steer this towards violence 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: for their own political inns, which are probably racist. But 76 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: there was a large chunk who are were as outraged 77 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: as the rest of us for the same reasons that 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: we're all outraged about this, right. Um, it's because it's outrageous, 79 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: and there's nothing about being like weirdly obsessed with guns 80 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: and fighting the cops. That also means that you're not 81 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: honestly infuriated when you see a video like this. Everybody 82 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: should be angry watching this video. UM. But so this 83 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: started to develop over the course of the twenty six. 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: The night of the twenty six, people started going out 85 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: of the street and getting into confrontations with police officers, 86 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: and largely what I was seeing at the beginning and 87 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: what like, I was not there on the ground. I 88 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: was watching a lot of different live streams, UM, and 89 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: I think it would be fair to say that the 90 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: vast majority of the serious violence deployed was by police. 91 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: A lot of rubber bullets hitting a lot of people 92 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: in the face, a lot of huge amount almost unbelievable 93 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: amounts of tear gas being deployed UM, as well as 94 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: flash band grenades, night sticks. There's numerous videos of police 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: while arresting people having multiple people punching them in the 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: face and head. UM. And there was there was I 97 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: would say retaliatory violence from protesters, people throwing rocks, UM, 98 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: people shooting fireworks. And one of the dimensions of this 99 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: that's really confusing is that a lot of this retaliation 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: was I think pretty understandable. It was people seeing violence 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: used against them, having just watched this video of a 102 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: murder and being directly confronted with these police who are 103 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: being so violent, being like, well, fuck it, I'm gonna 104 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: throw a rock at them, or I'm gonna break in 105 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: the window of one of these cars. Um. But there 106 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: is also this chunk of these kind of like far 107 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: right agitators, these boogaloo kids, who showed up at the protests, 108 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: at least sixteen of them, possibly more so. There was 109 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: one group of at least sixteen from the UH from 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: the Big Igloo Boys Facebook group, which is a Facebook 111 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: group for these folks about thirty thousand people that's spent 112 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: kind of all their time talking about their desire to 113 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: spark a new civil war. So these guys showed up 114 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: and they brought one of their boogaloo flags which has 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: like an igloo on it and stuff, and it's it's 116 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the imagery is very silly. But the 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: kid holding the flag got shot by a rubber bullet. Now, 118 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: at around the same time, another individual who was posting 119 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: in these boards showed up open carrying a handgun at 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: one of these protests, and he later claimed that a 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: mix of anti in Black Lives Matter had robbed him 122 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: of his gun. I found video which Daniel, we'll put 123 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: in here after I finished explaining. I found a video 124 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: of an activist who is live streaming at the time, 125 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: talking about confronting this man, and the way he describes 126 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: it is that he and some other activists saw this 127 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: guy with a gun, really decided he was almost certainly 128 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: a white nationalist agitator there to stir up violence, and 129 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: took his weapon away from him and sent him packing. 130 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: And we can insert that that audio here. Daniel ready 131 00:07:51,520 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: to do, just do? How to gone on? We don't know, 132 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: comment was well, but he was the only one we're spotting. 133 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: We got the gun from us. But justice ly we 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: gonna snatch for a lot of all and people, I 135 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be sna like Nashas out here. He's 136 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: not the only one. He's just one who just got 137 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: caught right now. Nice nice wark, Nice work, nice work, 138 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: nice one. So yeah, like that's uh kind of a 139 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,359 Speaker 1: little a hint of how like complicated and uh intense 140 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: things are in Minneapolis right now. So you've got these 141 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: you've got these protesters who are rightfully furious about what's happened. 142 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: You've got these police who have been responding very violently, 143 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: and who also now at this point are cracked out 144 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: haven't been sleeping and are like furious, uh and getting 145 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: more aggressive of And you have these right wing agitators, 146 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: some of whom are there out of honest solidarity, some 147 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: of whom are there because they think this is their 148 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: best possible chance to start a civil war. And there's 149 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: a left coast right watch. It was a Twitter account 150 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: of journalist that I that I follow has been inside 151 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: some of these boogaloo telegram groups where people are talking about, 152 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, the need to uh get the police to 153 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: start shooting with live rounds into the crowd so that 154 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: they the boogaloo boys can fire back with live rounds. 155 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: So there's this, this this whole mix of things that's 156 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: happening in Minneapolis right now, all of which is extremely 157 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: tense and extremely dangerous. Uh. It's absolutely terrifying, like a 158 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: real recipe for disaster. It's just you get that much 159 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: tension in one place, and you know, some little thing 160 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: can set off a whole series of unfortunate events. And i' 161 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: when you look at like Kent State, I mean that's 162 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: not even one little thing. Those were police terrified and 163 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: ready to go and and abusing people. You know, you 164 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean it's just it's just terrifying. Yeah, 165 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean things popped off on a lot of person 166 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: protests because of like a water bottles being thrown and 167 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um, and like there's it's interesting just 168 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: the that everybody knows why. Yeah, these uh protests are 169 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: where to do this. Like the guys who are trying 170 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: to start this violence, they can't do it at the 171 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: haircut protests. They can't do it at the ones that 172 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: are like all these right wing militias with their gear 173 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: and their flags UH doing their Nazi protests because they 174 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: know that the police are going to do anything. But 175 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: when the police are policing events like this with certain 176 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: kinds of protesters, they know that if they cause enough 177 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: of a problem that their police response will be something 178 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: that they can't elicit and at another maybe more um 179 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: I guess optically friendly. Yeah, that seems to be very 180 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: clearly understood by a lot of these folks. So that 181 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: the people who were outside of Minneapolis and kind of 182 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: the boogaloo community started immediately churning up memes where like 183 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: one of them was a screen grab from the video 184 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: of Mr Floyd being murdered. Um that shows like the 185 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: police officer with a knee on Mr Floyd's neck that says, UM, 186 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: something along the lines of, um, you can't stop this 187 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: unless you have a gun. Um. And then there was 188 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: another one that was a picture of Mr Floyd's face. UM. 189 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: In this kind of the specific kind of way that 190 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: they it's like a patriot wave is sort of like 191 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: the description for like the way that they edit these 192 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: images in like a certain stylized way. And they do 193 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: this for a guy named Duncan Limp. Duncan Duncan Limp 194 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: was a militia man um kind of a boogaloo guy, 195 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: boogaloo activist who was I believe twenty one years old 196 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: and he was shot today and a no knock raid 197 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: by the police. The police alleged that he had firearms 198 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: he was legally prohibited from possessing because of a juvenile charge. 199 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: There's debate as to whether or not that was legitimate. UM. 200 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Duncan Limps family claims that he was shot. The police 201 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: say that he accosted them with a gun as they 202 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: were entering his home uh and that he booby trapped 203 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: his home. His family says that this is untrue and 204 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: he was shot to death in his bed next to 205 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: his girlfriend, who was also wounded in the rate. I 206 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but they have adopted him as 207 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: a martyr, and so they for weeks they've been sharing 208 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: images of his of his face, UM with like the 209 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: phrase his name is his name is Duncan Limp written 210 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: on it, which is kind of you know, it's like 211 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: a fight club callback, but it's also their explicit sort 212 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: of goal of to to turn this guy into a martyr. 213 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: And within hours of Mr Floyd's death, they were doing 214 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: the same thing to his face and they have you know, 215 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: his name is Charles Floyd UM in the same kind 216 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: of edited together in the same way. And the conscious 217 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: goal is like, we can get these people on our side. 218 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: We can get them on our tow back our idea 219 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: of fighting the police and the way we want to 220 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: fight the police. And I want to make it clear, 221 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm not against UM. I'm not even against throwing rocks 222 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: at the police in a situation like this, UM, But 223 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that gun battles with the police in 224 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the middle of a massive crowded protest is a good idea. Yeah, 225 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: that's uh not going to help anybody, especially not you. 226 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: And I don't explain why by just saying that sentence. 227 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Actually it would help the police more. Yeah, don't start 228 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: gun battles in the middle of crowded protests full of 229 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: innocent people as a rule, um, as a rule, don't 230 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: start guns by yeah, um yeah. And it's it's this, 231 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of ship that, like, I just don't 232 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: know what the truth is yet. So one of the 233 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: things that's been going around is there were three open 234 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: carry protesters who appear to be both kind of into 235 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: the boogaloo stuff and more left wing. Although I don't 236 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: have a clear concrete understanding of their political ideology, they're 237 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: definitely super at least one of them is definitely super 238 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: into the boog Two of them were white, one of 239 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: them was black. They were open carrying long guns rifles 240 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: at the protest um. They claimed that they never discharged 241 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: their arms um, and that they were there to peacefully 242 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: show support and protect the crowd, which may be true, 243 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: I do not know. I also found video of and 244 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: it's a terrifying video which has been purged from the 245 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: Internet at this point, but the video showed it was 246 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: a live stream from one of the protests. Was a 247 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: large crowd of mostly black protesters marching down the street peacefully, 248 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: and as they're marching and chanting, there are a series 249 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: of dobably five loud gun shots. They sounded like rifle fire, 250 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: although it's kind of hard to tell, and then the 251 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: crowd like scattered. It was terrifying. People very clearly worried 252 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: that somebody was opening fire with a rifle into the crowd. 253 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: That isn't what happened, but there were definitely shots fired, 254 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: um and it was not fireworks. And then I found 255 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: another video of one of the people who was in 256 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,359 Speaker 1: that crowd was taking cover with a group of other activists, 257 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: claiming that the people who had fired it were a 258 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: group of three dudes with a K forty seven's. I 259 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: don't know if she literally thought they were a K 260 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: S or if that was just kind of like term 261 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: for a rifle that occurred to her in the moment um, 262 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: but that they had been the ones that fired, and 263 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: so that some people suspect that that was that group 264 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: who was open carrying. They have explicitly we're denying it 265 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: on Facebook. I don't know, but that like kind of 266 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: shows you the level of like how difficult it is 267 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: to tell what is going on. There were absolutely shots 268 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: fired at the protest, it doesn't seem to have been 269 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: by cops, in part because like nobody got shot. Um 270 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: it like it seems like someone was just shooting and 271 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: we don't really know who it was or why they 272 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: did it. But it panicked to the crowd. And given 273 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: the number of people who are talking online on the 274 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: in this Google community about their desire to spark a 275 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: gun fight like it, you have to look into it. 276 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know, there's a very real possibility that 277 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: that comes from them to see what happens next. Um right, 278 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: merely just making the sound. I mean, I've already said 279 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: this is terrifying, but it's in in many ways different 280 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: ways of terrifying. What this means, what this represents, this 281 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: escalation of tensions in general, because where everybody's primed right now, 282 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: and and it's a perfect opportunity for people to come 283 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: in and exacerbate tensions, right. Um. But also there's, like 284 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: you're saying, it's really hard to get track of what 285 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: actually is happening or what's going to happen, but there's 286 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: so much news from I was really grateful when I 287 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: saw you tracking this story last night on Twitter because 288 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: it's so hard to shift through everything as is. Let 289 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: alone make space for this very important thing that's developing 290 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: and we need to be in a radar, have on 291 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: a radars and is going to continue to develop. Yeah, 292 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: I keep a photos, I mean obviously, Yeah, it just 293 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: looks like someone is sharing photos from Ferguson and calling 294 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: it something else. Um. And like just thinking, I keep 295 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: thinking about the time period, uh, and how even you know, 296 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: like these protests, like there's so much going on, it's 297 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: and then when the you know, the tear gas comes out, 298 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: it's so hard to follow what's going on, and you 299 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: need to like be really locked in and tuned in 300 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: to like local reporters there and just like to get 301 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: a sense of like any sense of what's actually going on. Um. 302 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: And the idea of doing that um during during a pandemic, 303 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: um and like six years later when things have gotten 304 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: worse and more polarized and everything is just just worse 305 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: um and yet the same Yeah, and it's there. First off, 306 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: just as a note, if you're looking for a good 307 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: source on what's happening in Minneapolis from a journalist on 308 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: the ground and live streaming Unicorn riot. You can find 309 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: them on Twitter. They have a website. Just google uniform Unicorn, right, 310 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: you'll find them. Um, they've been doing great journalists for 311 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: journalism for a long time, a lot of on the 312 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: street stuff. They're incredibly good at covering this exact sort 313 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: of thing. Um and I I can't recommend them enough. 314 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Their Patreon supported, So consider backing them. They're they're really 315 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: good people. I met him a lot of digital stuffy 316 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: to do them well to Yeah, yeah, they put together yeah, 317 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: incredible resources. Um. So yeah, the there's this difficulty when 318 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: talking about this, and I've even gotten slammed by some 319 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 1: people online for when I'll talk about like the provocateurs 320 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: coming in and trying to spark violence, where they'll be like, hey, 321 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, funk off with this. You're essentially like means 322 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: testing the protest, or like like arguing that only non 323 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: violent protest is valid, or like denying the use of 324 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: a diversity of tactics. You're trying to push the image 325 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: that like, these are these protests are violent, And I 326 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: understand the concern over that because this is something that happens, 327 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: and I do get frustrated when particularly people have a a 328 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: more liberal bent get angry at protesters for engaging physically 329 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: with police and situations where the police are outrageously aggressive, 330 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: as if it's hey, as if the fact that that 331 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: that violence from protesters provokes more violence from police means 332 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: that it's okay for the police to be escalating violence 333 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: in that way. Um, which I agree as a problem 334 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: I can protests that is not. Yeah, Oh, it's just 335 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: that like that um is really important to address and 336 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: talk about. And it's one of those things like I'm 337 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: I'm just already seeing like rehashes at every single conversation 338 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: and that was had about for about Ferguson. It's like 339 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: it's obviously like there's a reason, but like it's just 340 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: maddening instantly that like we got to do it all 341 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: over again and have those conversations again, and the kind 342 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: of pain that people have to go through just like 343 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: watching this unfold. Um. Yeah, but it's also like it 344 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: is what you're not talking about that situation and those 345 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: people that's like that's the I'm not I'm not right, 346 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: that's it. There's a difference. Yeah, there's what you're trying 347 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: to say right now. Yeah, there's and I want to 348 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: read some of the quotes that left Coast Right watch 349 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: uh at l c r W news on Twitter found 350 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: um going through these boogaloo focus like telegram channels with 351 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: these guys talking about what they want to do with 352 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: the protest. Here's one person stating, remember that these folks, 353 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: and he's talking about the cops are used to everyone 354 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: fearing and cowering. They are addicted to the feeling and 355 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: addicts will do anything for another hit. But they have 356 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: to be the ones to fire first. We have to 357 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: be acting in self defense, but we can taunt the 358 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: hell out of them to push them to the breaking point. 359 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: Here's another post gunfire is getting really heavy. This maybe 360 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: it This may be the boog my bros. And then 361 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: an emoji of praying hands. Yeah, there's there's more. Yeah, 362 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: but a protester down to rubber and non lethal is 363 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: not the same as dropped from nine millimeter or five 364 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: five six those are types bullets. We have to wait 365 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: until it's intentionally lethal. Uh. And someone responds while they 366 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: intentionally killed that man that sparked this whole protest. Another 367 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: person saying show up in four just don't fire until 368 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: fired upon, and then another person responding make them shoot first. 369 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: It won't be hard. They will be pissing themselves and 370 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: itching to assert authority. And there's there's a ton of 371 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: that um like the this hope that there will be 372 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: um that the police will open fire on the crowd 373 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: with live rounds, that these this small group showing up 374 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: with weapons can defend the crowd with guns, and that 375 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty clear what their intentions are here. And 376 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: I say this will keep happening because I believe that 377 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: we will see this continue to happen at different protests 378 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and the tensions keep getting exacerbated. And I mentioned Kent 379 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: State because it's like far less happens to set off 380 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: the police than this. As tensions are mounting, do you 381 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And it's um, yeah, I'll just 382 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: keep saying it's terrifying. Yeah. So for an example, and 383 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: I think these these boogaloo guys talking about their desire 384 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: to um get into a gunfight with the cops over this. 385 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: It's a mix of ones who are just so angry 386 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: at the state of affairs in this country for some 387 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: good reasons that they think the only they've become accelerationists. 388 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: They think that just a giant gunfight with the state 389 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: needs to erupt because it's the only and people who 390 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: really don't care about the lives of people in the 391 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: crowd and just want an excuse to have a gunfight 392 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: because they're violent. Um Like, it's a mix of those two. 393 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: But there's also trying to manipulate these these protests and 394 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: push things towards violence, an element of just straight up 395 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: nazis um. And that's embodied really by what four chan 396 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: did last night. So there was this young man who 397 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: was one of the very last and this isn't around. 398 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: It had to been around three or four in the morning, 399 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: Minneapolis time, Uh, Derek branch Um and Derek it was 400 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: live streaming. He's he's like he makes music and stuff, 401 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: and so he's been like has like a decent sized 402 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: platform for live streaming, and like at its high, I 403 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: think twelve people were watching his live stream. And because 404 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: the police had really taken efforts. Some people claim the 405 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: police had taken efforts to knock down to put up 406 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: like signal blockers and stuff to knock out live streams. 407 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: And I can tell you that a lot of live 408 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: streams were taken down by Facebook during the protests. Um, 409 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: I can't tell you that hasn't been looked into enough, 410 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: but people are investigating it currently. Derek was one of 411 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: the only people up late at night when the police 412 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: were trying to push protesters away from the Third Precinct 413 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: House um in Minneapolis, where like a lot of them 414 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: had were around. And so at one point in his 415 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: live stream, Derek, uh, Derek Branch like is asked by 416 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: someone on the live stream, Hey, man, how's your camera 417 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: battery doing? And he pulls a battery, like a large 418 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: black battery out of his like pants and he says 419 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: it's like locked and loaded man, and he puts it 420 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: back in now. At the same time on four chance 421 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: poll board. Uh, these kids, as they do anytime something 422 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: like this is happening, it started looking for ways to 423 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: like funk around with it, and they found Derek's live 424 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: stream and they all hopped onto the YouTube video. Uh 425 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: the you like the YouTube post for his live stream 426 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: and just not it was a mix of them like 427 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: making a bunch of racist jokes, but a bunch of 428 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: them like also started trying talking about on four Chan 429 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: and on YouTube how they could get Derek killed. And 430 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: they settled on calling the police informing them of his 431 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: live stream sending the police like clips of him saying 432 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: locked and loaded and telling the police that he had 433 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: a gun. And I was listening live to the police 434 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: radio feed and I heard, as the police say there 435 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 1: is a live streamer, he says he's locked and loaded, 436 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: he's flash just with a gun, and they were clearly 437 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: now listening to his live stream. UM. And as this 438 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: is happening on the the YouTube video, all these four 439 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: Chan kids are talking like very excitedly about like, you know, 440 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: he's about to find out, Uh, this guy's gonna get killed, 441 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Like we're going to get this guy killed. Isn't that 442 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: fucking awesome? Um? And Derek is also listening in to 443 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: the police scanner at this time, so he hears his 444 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: name on the police scanner and he realizes the cops 445 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: think he has a gun, and he fucking books it. 446 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: Um gets in his car and drives away, and that 447 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: there was a fucking terrifying Uh, I don't know, like 448 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: twenty minutes or so of just watching this kid in 449 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: his car, like almost on the edge of tears, thinking 450 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: he's going to get murdered by the police, knowing that 451 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: the police have his address and are reading it out 452 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: over because he's hearing the police, as is everyone listening. Um. 453 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: And thankfully, because this was all being publicized, it wasn't 454 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: just the Nazis trying to kill this guy who were 455 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: aware of his dream. A bunch of people started calling 456 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: the cops and saying, you've got it wrong, like this 457 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: guy is is unarmed, like here's what's happening on the video, 458 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: and the police backed off and he was not He's fine, 459 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Derek is all right. Well, what a terrifying turn of events. 460 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: It was fucking horrible. Yeah, and these kids were like 461 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: fucking Nazis. They're talking about Nazi stuff. Like one of them, 462 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: one of the quotes that I pulled out of it, 463 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: there's just one guy saying fascism miss the future. So 464 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: they're not very subtle about it. But also like they're 465 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: constantly talking about because like after Derek it became clear 466 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna get murdered, they switched over to another 467 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: live feed to watch Unicorn riot. Um. And this was 468 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: like in front of the liquor store when the cops 469 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: were trying to push people out of the liquor store 470 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: that had been a liquor store got occupied at one point. Um, 471 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're just constantly making comments about joggers and 472 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: about like wanting to see police take out joggers, which, 473 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: after Ahmed Aarbury's murder, jogger is white nationalists slang for 474 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: the in word now yeah, so, um, it's not a 475 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: great time to be an American. Good you're gonna say what? 476 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Are you gonna say? Good? We're what? Yeah? Are there 477 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: are other protests things on your radar that they might 478 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: also try to untiltrate in some way, anything that gets 479 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: any kind of actual cultural inertia behind it. I do 480 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: think you made a really good point, Cody, in that 481 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: the violence were likely to see from these folks or 482 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: attempts at actually provoking the police, and violence is way 483 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: more likely to happen at sort of a more kind 484 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: traditionally left wing demonstration like this was. Um although like 485 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: obviously like being angry at a police murdering someone isn't 486 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: left wing or right wing, but the kind of yeah yeah, yeah, 487 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: um so. I I think like the next time cops 488 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: murder a black man somewhere in America tomorrow probably uh 489 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: and protests erupt, you can expect to see these. You 490 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: can expect to see them continue to show up. And 491 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: thankfully like this time at least so far, may have 492 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: changed by the time this fucking episodes drops, But so 493 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: far there hasn't been like a gunfight sparked by these 494 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: boogaloo kids showing up and getting in the middle of things. 495 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: But that could change at any moment. It could change 496 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: at any one of these protests because most of these guys, 497 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: when you get right down to it, when like the 498 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: meat he hits the metal, most of these boogaloo kids 499 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: aren't gonna actually want to get into a gunfight. I've 500 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: been in gunfights. They suck um like they're they're terrifying, 501 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: and it's very hard to react well trained for them. 502 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: Um They're they're disorienting and confusing. And even if you 503 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: have a weapon, if you aren't trained to use it, 504 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: the odds of you using it effectively or low, especially 505 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: in a situation where like at least in my case, 506 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: they happen in war zones. I can't imagine the chaos 507 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: of being surrounded by tear gas clouds and protesters and 508 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: people shooting laser pointers and lights and flash banks, and 509 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: then a gunfight starts, like not the best environment for accuracy. 510 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah right, But what if i've Yeah, so I don't. 511 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: I don't think most of these people are actually likely 512 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: even the ones who show up, most of them are 513 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: not likely to actually start something, regardless of what they say. 514 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: But all it takes is one and then you've got 515 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: a lot of metal flying through the air and probably 516 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: a lot of dead and wounded people, and then more protests, 517 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 1: and those protests will start at a more amped up 518 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: level and will involve more armed people. And like it's 519 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: it's a cascade effect as we're seeing happen in Minneapolis 520 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: right now. Um, I think it's cascading. Um. And it 521 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: probably could have been stopped in Nenapolis's case if the 522 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: police had immediately arrested and charged these men with murder. 523 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, it might have done something, um as 524 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: opposed to just firing them. Because I don't know if 525 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: you know this, but in in the city of Minneapolis, 526 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: half of the times when officers are dismissed are fired 527 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: for reasons like this, for like police brutality. They are 528 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: rehired because their union sues the department. So people were yeah, yeah, 529 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: that that's very regular. It's actually more like a dent 530 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: in a number of cities. Yeah, it's just so fucked up. Yep, 531 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: it's depressing. This is depressing. Mm hmm. We have something 532 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: positive to say for our listeners. You know, the way 533 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: is to help get involved, support, pay attention, and I 534 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: guess yeah. I mean, if you're in Minneapolis, Uh, take 535 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: to the streets and try to support people protesting and 536 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: whatever way you can to ensure that justice has done. 537 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: Because whatever the like, this is a dangerous situation. It's 538 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: not safe to take to the streets in these situations. 539 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: But I do think that of all of the bad outcomes, 540 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: the worst one is not making the city pay when 541 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: it murders citizens, when it's agents murder citizens. I don't 542 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: think the option is don't protest. I don't think that's 543 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: the answer here. Um, But if you do get out 544 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: into a protest, or if you wind up at one 545 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: later this year, because there will be more, UM, keep 546 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: a fucking eye out for these boogaloo kids. Keep a 547 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: fucking eye out for people who are looking to UM, 548 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: who who aren't there to actually support UM the protests 549 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: in a meaningful way, and who are there because they 550 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: want to be the star of their own little action movie. UM. Yeah, 551 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: that would be my advice. Uh, and you know, learn 552 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: how to do with gunshot wounds by a combat application, 553 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: turn turniquet, pick up some cellox cause not a useless 554 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: skill to have in a country with four million guns. Yeah, okay, 555 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: some positivity. The President just tweeted that, at his request, 556 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: the FBI and the Department of Justice are already well 557 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: into an investigation as the very sad and tragic death 558 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: in Minnesota of George Floyd. Oh good, I'm glad that 559 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: he has asked for this investigation to be expedited. God, 560 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: I want to dump piece of ship. Yeah, I'm glad 561 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: that you're already doing the things. Yeah, I'm making sure 562 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: they do it really well. Yeah, it had been announced 563 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: the day before. Yeah, but that is it's interesting the 564 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: way that he has talked about that because he's I know, 565 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: he's scared of this, because this is a this is 566 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: a largely although not entirely conservative, heavily armed anti state 567 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: movement that is getting into the streets and aggressive during 568 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: his administration, which is actually kind of one of the 569 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: things that might be of all of the bad things 570 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: about having Trump in office, part of me is like, 571 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's not the worst thing that he's the President 572 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: as this is hitting because this way, it's not we're 573 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: not seeing of a right wing insurgency form against a 574 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: liberal Democrat. We're seeing it form very very explicitly against 575 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: the police. Um. Who Again, even if you think that 576 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: these boogaloo kids are hard widely misguided and compromised by Nazis, 577 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: which they definitely are, um Like, fuck the police. So 578 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm saying is I can see 579 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: he definitely he seems to be scared as funck of 580 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: this because he has no control over it, and because 581 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: it is going to harm his chances of re election, 582 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: and because every like, yeah, there's no way to spend 583 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: this to a Democrat thing because it's the fucking police. 584 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: And he has made it a huge part of his 585 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: campaign to be filmed with police, to talk about the 586 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: support he has from the police, Like there's no co 587 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: opting the Boogaloo movement for the president because these guys 588 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: fucking hate him. Um in part because he's passed more 589 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: gun controlled than Barack Obama did, which is another aspect 590 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: of this Interesting times at least everything makes sense, yes, 591 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: perfect sense, Yeah, interesting, crystal clear, straightforward times. Yeah, um, 592 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: elon Musk avoided blowing up a rocket today. That's good. 593 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: That's good. I'm glad it will be another day. The weather, 594 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: the weather was like, not today, but he's gonna kill 595 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: spend time with your child. He's gonna kill two men 596 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: on another day. That's good New York City, Right, yeah, no, 597 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: not today. We couldn't. We couldn't have handled it today. 598 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: They were like, no, just like, give it a few 599 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: do with this, do it this weekend. York City rats 600 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: are becoming carnivorous monsters, hungry, you know what, starving in 601 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: the subway system. Why don't we give the rats a 602 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: shot like running, let him have it. Yeah, we're not. Yeah, 603 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: they seem like they know some ship. I bow down 604 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: to our new overlords. Yeah. I don't think that those 605 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: little mits can hold guns. So at least there's that. Yeah. Yeah, 606 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: So our our closing advice is take to the streets 607 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: and vote rat in. Guys. They're just gonna make tiny guns. 608 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: You're right, tiny guns. Didn't we do a p s 609 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: a at Cracked for tiny guns? Yeah, it's important. That's 610 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: a good takeaway. Go check out our tiny gun p 611 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: s a on Cracked from years ago. Yeah, and then 612 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: that Strokes song New York City. Rats. You can check 613 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: us out online out where it's your pod, Twitter, in Instagram, Twinstagram, 614 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: twist a gram. Alright, oh yeah, yeah, alright, this is it, 615 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: although I do want to know our name. One last one, 616 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: last bit of an update from sixteen minutes ago. Uh, 617 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: protests are still continuing around the police precinct. They've walled 618 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: off the precinct. Protesters appeared to have retaken the liquor 619 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: store UH and now have the high ground over the police. 620 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: Um so that's developing music, Yeah, I ground. But what 621 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it doesn't love how my god? 622 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's They're already using the line. That's what 623 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It certainly does not sound like it's de escalating. No, 624 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: like God, they've taken the art. I'm sure we'll have 625 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: more to say about this. I'm sure we will, all right, Um, 626 00:35:53,200 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: stay powerful people, every everything so dump and it's not again. 627 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: I tried. Daniel. Worst Year Ever is a production of 628 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, 629 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 630 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.