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Speaker 1: Fishing is not causplay. It's not a fetish that you do.

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Speaker 1: It should not turn into like a furry convention in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: There's no longer a week you've drained the tank of

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Speaker 1: a week all the off sushi restaurants around me are

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Speaker 1: shipping their pants because if this is available at Best

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Speaker 1: Buy in five years, that could be really problematic. The

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Speaker 1: fish doesn't want to wear that dude symbol of marital

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Speaker 1: failure either. Good morning to generate anglers. Welcome to Bent,

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Speaker 1: the only fishing podcast we're aware of. It probably admits

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Speaker 1: at giggles like the pills very dough boy when it's

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Speaker 1: Bobber goes under Joe sur Melly, I like that a

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Speaker 1: Miles Nulty and uh. And today we're going to celebrate

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Speaker 1: those buoyant bits that bob above the surface tension. Yes, now,

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Speaker 1: look you you've heard us argue on this show before

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Speaker 1: about lots of just an ange ship, most recently that

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Speaker 1: the crocs are the worst foot wherever abjectly false. And

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Speaker 1: you know what I had. I had a lot of

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Speaker 1: reach out about that. A lot of people are on

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Speaker 1: your side, some aren't, but many are. Okay, I'll be anyway.

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Speaker 1: Um you and Oliver and I can be uncomfortable together.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't care. Oh man, Anyway, what else

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Speaker 1: have we argued about? How about regionally specific fishing phrases

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Speaker 1: including stroking it, stroking them, I believe is what you're

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Speaker 1: You might say now it is stroking it and corked.

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Speaker 1: But on this particular topic, it turns out that Myles

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Speaker 1: and I are in total agreement. Right we both proudly

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Speaker 1: fish bombers. We do. That is true. We we completely

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Speaker 1: agree with that, and we recognize the bobbers go by

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Speaker 1: a variety of different names depending on where you live

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Speaker 1: and how you fish. If you're a British carp lover

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Speaker 1: their floats, if you're a fly angler. There strike indicators,

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Speaker 1: which is a term I've always kind of hated for reasons. One,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like an unnecessarily longer way of saying

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Speaker 1: bobber or float like it's fewer, fewer syllables is better,

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Speaker 1: And two it's actually inaccurate. It's not true because most

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Speaker 1: of the time it's a drift indicator. It only becomes

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Speaker 1: a strike indicator when a fish takes your fly, which

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Speaker 1: is like one tiny, little minute percentage of the the times

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Speaker 1: you're fishing, it's a drift indicator. If you've got to

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Speaker 1: be an indicator. I see what you're saying. I've always

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Speaker 1: looked at it kind of like this. Right. If it's

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Speaker 1: if it's a tiny piece of yarn that you're legitimately

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Speaker 1: using to detect the bite of, like a spring creek

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Speaker 1: fish barely taking a zebra midge, I'll let you call

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Speaker 1: it a strike indicator if you feel better. But if

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Speaker 1: it's the size of a freaking ping pong ball, right,

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Speaker 1: and let's be honest, thing of a bobber's note the

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Speaker 1: word bober in the name. Okay uh, And that's what

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Speaker 1: that's what I see most often. It's it's a bomber.

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Speaker 1: It's a bomber. It's a bomber. But not only do

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Speaker 1: they have many names, but bobber's come in many designs

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Speaker 1: and can be made of various materials. You've got your

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Speaker 1: classic red and white plastic bobber with a push button

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Speaker 1: line clip. And for the record, let me just add,

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Speaker 1: if you're over ten, you should probably up your game

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Speaker 1: to a more effective and versatile bomber appropriate for the

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Speaker 1: man without children fishing with you and the red and

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Speaker 1: white Bobbers, your bobber of choice. I don't trust you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like you're being intentionally obtuse. There's so

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Speaker 1: many better options out there. Something's not right, uh, And

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Speaker 1: there are so many options, right, Balsa or foam stick

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Speaker 1: floats which are my personal favorite, slip bobbers, cigar floats.

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Speaker 1: What else you got? Pencil floats, spring slips, popping corks,

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Speaker 1: casting bubbles, dink floats, quill bobbers, yarnies, pinch on, even

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Speaker 1: full on party balloons. If you're a shark and tuna guy,

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Speaker 1: you know um and all of them have specific fishing applications. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and this is this is why we need the celebration

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Speaker 1: tiny little clip on, which we agree is kind of lame.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk more about the iconic red and

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Speaker 1: in the show, But for now, I want to focus

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Speaker 1: on the stigma against bobbera fishing. As we have talked

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Speaker 1: seems like almost everyone except for the eurocarp scene, the

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Speaker 1: they all hate on bobbers. Everybody else hates the Bobbers.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. It's it's like the one thing that unifies

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Speaker 1: about fishing, and that's just not true. Joe and I

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Speaker 1: completely disagree with that that we do. But listen, before

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Speaker 1: we get into our spirited, defensive bobbers, let's remind everyone

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Speaker 1: they do. I lately have been finding that the lightweight

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Speaker 1: Defies Silver seven foot makes an excellent choice for drifting

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Speaker 1: trout magnets or other lightweights UH may or may not

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Speaker 1: be UH magnets are other lightweight river presentations under a

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Speaker 1: sensitive float that that particular rod. It's it's soft enough

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Speaker 1: two delicately cast the small rigs, but still got enough

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Speaker 1: backbone to turn a big brown and heavy current. I'm

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Speaker 1: rods for drifting trout mags too. But I've sent out

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Speaker 1: a shiner three under a dollar ninety nine eagle claw

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Speaker 1: whooped the messive pickerel and perch and bass. So it's

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Speaker 1: all it's all bobber friendly, it is. Go go over

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Speaker 1: or anti bobber fishing missions. Yes, yes, so, as we

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Speaker 1: were saying, much like the point I recently made about chunking, right,

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Speaker 1: that center pinning. Listening to them talk about their floats

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Speaker 1: and what you're fishing for, and it's it's definitely technical

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Speaker 1: If your definition of nymph fishing just involves floating down

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Speaker 1: to work a hole or a run. I vehemently contend

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Speaker 1: the trying to get a natural drift with subsurface flies

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Speaker 1: know if it's dragging, no, it's off. You can see

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but get out of here if you think

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Speaker 1: The same goes for tight lens wing. Most of the

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Speaker 1: know less. So if you're if you're, you're a nymphing.

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Speaker 1: But we'll save that flashpoint for another show. But we're

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Speaker 1: Back again to offer his unique take on smooth Moves,

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Speaker 1: the segment where people in the fishing industry tell us

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Speaker 1: my good friend Pat Cook, manager of white Tail Country

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Speaker 1: Cross Current Guide Service on the Upper Delaware River. I've

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Speaker 1: Sitting sitting with me is my buddy Pat Cook. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, Pat, Pretty good? Good? Good? Now you are

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Speaker 1: And we've had you one before to tell some shop stories.

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Speaker 1: But this is different today because we're not in the shop.

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Speaker 1: we're hanging out here now and we're drinking beers, and um,

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Speaker 1: you had hinted a while back that that whenever I

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Speaker 1: So you know, we talked to guides and captains on

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Speaker 1: smooth moves all the time. But it's fun to always

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Speaker 1: What do you got fresh for us? Give us, give

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Speaker 1: us a good one. Okay. So um, this is I say, August.

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Speaker 1: We'll call it the slow season, which I enjoy because

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Speaker 1: for me, which is understandable. Now you get to the river,

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Speaker 1: you're ready to fish. Eager people have an agenda. Going

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Speaker 1: But that's that's okay, that's what we're there for. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: yet again anytime. Oh Pat, Mrs Calling, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: and so let us know what you guys think, let

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Speaker 1: us know what we missed, suggest stuff you know how

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Speaker 1: to reach us. Maybe we'll even down the road, add

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Speaker 1: some fan fails and shout you out as in this

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Speaker 1: addition to the to the playlist courtesy of you um

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Speaker 1: so search for the band podcast playlist on Spotify and

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Speaker 1: for some reason you can't find it. There's a link

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Speaker 1: in my Instagram link tree profile thing. You can find

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Speaker 1: it there. But rock out with us please and as

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Speaker 1: my bud uh my. But Neil Angling has already said

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Speaker 1: he's like, yo, this is a super dank playlist, which

432
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Speaker 1: really that's a good kids are saying anyway, So I

433
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Speaker 1: thought that out of the way. Let's move on the news.

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Speaker 1: As always right, this is a competition, Miles and I

435
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: do not know what stories the other dude is bringing

436
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Speaker 1: to the table, and at the end, our main man

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Speaker 1: fill the engineer will declare winner. But before I passed

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Speaker 1: the mike to you, I would just like to let

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Speaker 1: Phil know that just for him, I added Bleed American

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Speaker 1: by Jimmy Eat World to the Bent playlist because that's

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00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: actually a good song. I like that song. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: that should lure you in Phil But then if you

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Speaker 1: stick around, we'll have you, you know, crimp and studs

444
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Speaker 1: to your sweater vest in no time. Anyway, Miles, what

445
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Speaker 1: do you got? What you got for news? But all right, well,

446
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: my obsession with finding stories to combat the idiocy of

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Speaker 1: c spears continues. Oh here we go. I can I

448
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Speaker 1: cannot say how long this is gonna go on, but

449
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: I can say I'm not done yet. I just can't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not over it. Uh, And I should I should

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Speaker 1: say that I got the idea for this segment from

452
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: an article published in the magazine Scientific American earlier this week.

453
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Speaker 1: So that's where this comes from. Do you remember how

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Speaker 1: you covered a story a while back about the rampant

455
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Speaker 1: mislabeling of fish. Yes, yeah, so yeah, it was the quiz,

456
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Speaker 1: the UK quiz can you identify these fish? Yes? I'm

457
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: building off of that and and to recap. Research suggests

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Speaker 1: that about a third of the fish we buy at

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Speaker 1: markets and restaurants is fraudulently mislabeled, and and the fraud

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Speaker 1: is particularly acute with certain popular fish. So eighties seven

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Speaker 1: percent of the filets being sold as snapper are not

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Speaker 1: snapper there probably telapia, maybe sea brim or rock fish. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The spicy tuna roll you you bought it at the

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Speaker 1: gas station the other day, fifty seven percent chance that

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Speaker 1: wasn't tuna, About a quarter. The halibit you buy is

466
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Speaker 1: actually tile fish, and the grouper in cod you buy

467
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Speaker 1: are actually catfish. The f d A and various watchdog

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Speaker 1: agencies have been working to crack down on this problem,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's it's nearly imposed able to look at

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Speaker 1: a piece of fish and definitively determine if it's mislabeled. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And if we can't even be sure what kind of

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Speaker 1: fish were buying, how do we have any confidence in

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Speaker 1: the origin of our fish? Right If if you're one

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Speaker 1: of those people who who look carefully at the fish

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Speaker 1: you buy because you don't want to support over fishing

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Speaker 1: or destructive catch methods or slavery, this would seem to

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Speaker 1: suggest that c spiracy may indeed be correct. The only

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Speaker 1: way we can avoid contributing to those unsavory practices is

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Speaker 1: to quit eating seafood altogether, or you know, catch it yourself.

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Speaker 1: There is, however, another potential solution. If the the FDA

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Speaker 1: and those other agencies just had some kind of readily available,

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Speaker 1: easy to use quick technology to i D fish meat.

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Speaker 1: They could theoretically curb a lout of this problem before

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Speaker 1: it hits consumers. And, as is so often the case,

485
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Speaker 1: when we humans encounter problems, we come up with solutions.

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Speaker 1: Problem solving is it's kind of our thing. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of we do. Enter. University of Texas graduate student Abby

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Speaker 1: get I'm gonna mess this up, Get Maton. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it a lot, so sorry, Abbey, abbe

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Speaker 1: get Maton. I think get Maton was introduced to a

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Speaker 1: tool called the mass spec pen when she first started

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Speaker 1: doing her graduate study in chemistry. The mass spec pen

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Speaker 1: is is it actually a pen at all? But it's

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Speaker 1: this little handheld one thing that kind of looks like

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Speaker 1: a pen, and doctors use it to detect tumors. Get

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Speaker 1: Maton hypothesized that if the pen could correctly identify human tissue,

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Speaker 1: it might work for other animals as well. According to

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Speaker 1: the research she just published in the Journal of Agricultural

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Speaker 1: and Food Chemistry. She was right. I'm just gonna quote

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Speaker 1: the description of what she did straight from the Scientific

501
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Speaker 1: American article because they did it better. Than I could anyway.

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Speaker 1: So so here's the quote. Get Maton touched the pen's

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Speaker 1: tip two samples of fish she had bought at the

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Speaker 1: grocery store. The pen released a droplet of solvent onto

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Speaker 1: the sample surface and then sucked it back into the pen,

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Speaker 1: through the tube and into the mass spectrometer. Inside the machine,

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Speaker 1: each sample is automatically dissolved in the solvent and then vaporized,

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Speaker 1: turning its chemical components into ions. The ions were beamed

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Speaker 1: through a magnetic field, which bent their path so that

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Speaker 1: each one shot in a new direction based on its

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Speaker 1: mass and electrical charge before landing on a detector plate.

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Speaker 1: By noting each ion's position on the plate, the system

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Speaker 1: could identify which chemicals and how many of each were

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Speaker 1: in the samples. So that sounded like some some serious

515
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Speaker 1: star trek stuff. I don't totally understand it, but that's

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Speaker 1: the basic description of how it works. Yep. Other scientists

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Speaker 1: have already learned the chemical profiles of most fish species.

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Speaker 1: Get Mayton and her team just had to program the

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Speaker 1: mass speckpen to identify which chemical signatures were connected to

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Speaker 1: which fish. They then touched the pen to a filet,

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Speaker 1: and fifty seconds later, the screen told them halibut or sakai,

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Speaker 1: salmon or telapia. The team thinks that with more work

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Speaker 1: they can further refine the pen to not only determine

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Speaker 1: what type of fish it is, but other important information

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Speaker 1: like if it was farm raised or wild caught, and

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Speaker 1: where exactly the fish came from. The technology has a

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Speaker 1: long way to go before it could be mass marketed,

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Speaker 1: but it has the potential to be highly effective and

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Speaker 1: relatively cheap. Aside from the the initial investment in the equipment,

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Speaker 1: each test just requires one disposable tip and a couple

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Speaker 1: of drops of common solving. Plus the test does not

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Speaker 1: harm the fish in anyway that that filet remains perfectly

533
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Speaker 1: good and safe to consume. If this does become widely accepted,

534
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: we could have a much clearer picture about where all

535
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: our seafood comes from, which would allow retailers and consumers

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Speaker 1: to make informed decisions, which could crack down on all

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00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: these issues that we keep talking about. So once again,

538
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: heavy handed, monolithic, reactionary responses to our fisheries management problems

539
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: are not the only way, not even the best. Yeah,

540
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: we do need to better manage our marine fisheries, but

541
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Speaker 1: we are developing the tools to do this and to

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00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: maintain a viable seafood industry. We're not there yet. We

543
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: got work to do. But research like this and and

544
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: the longitudinal study I talked about last week suggests that look,

545
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Speaker 1: if we're willing to implement like a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: incremental changes, we can get there. All hope is not lost,

547
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: despite what people might have you think. But in the meantime,

548
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe lay off the gas station sushi Joe,

549
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: because it's probably not which to think it is. So

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Speaker 1: I read this and we almost crossed over. I almost

551
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: did this story within me being me, I knocked it

552
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: out for dumb celebrity news. So I'm glad. I'm glad

553
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: you did it because it's an important story. Um, although

554
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: I I when I read it, I wasn't thinking of

555
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: it in the in the sea spiracy vein as much

556
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: as you, But more so, all the off sushi restaurants

557
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: around me are shipping their pants because if this is

558
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: available at Best Buy in five years, like that could

559
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: be really problematic, Like you know what I mean, like

560
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 1: go to the sushi place and be like that is

561
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: not snapper. I don't think it's gonna be like a

562
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: consumer product. I don't think they're gonna be selling these

563
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: mass spect pens at best Buy. I think it's gonna

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00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: happen a little to to use a bad analogy higher

565
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: up food chain, right, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna try and call in the favor like that,

567
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, like like use the

568
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: powers of the mediator to be like, look, we're gonna

569
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Speaker 1: do it. Can we review the like I need one

570
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: of those pens? Um? Yeah, dude, no great, great story

571
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: and um I mean, man, talk about technology coming a

572
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: long way, because, like you said, the cool thing about

573
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: it is you cannot not only can you do it

574
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: in fifteen seconds, but you there's no waste, You destroy

575
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: nothing nothing doing this. So how this doesn't get implemented

576
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: over time to to be available everywhere in this industry?

577
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean, how how we don't harness this. I don't

578
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: see that happening. I think this could be one of

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00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: the coolest advances in terms of managing these fisheries that

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00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: we've had yet. I mean, you you manage fisheries at

581
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: the economic side, and if we can be able to

582
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: trace these things back and allow retailers consumers to make

583
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: informed decisions. I think that there are enough folks who

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00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: are invested in that to make sure that we can

585
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: we can change the way that we consume. And without

586
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: the money, the industry falls apart. Right, The industry will

587
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: change its practices in response to those economic forces. That's

588
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: how it's going to happen. Yeah, and there's the broad

589
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: look at that in terms of the economics. At the

590
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: same time, on a personal level, like, I think that's

591
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Speaker 1: pretty cool that it's gonna be harder for somebody to

592
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: dupe me with butterfish. I mean, dude, just like taking

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00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: that out of the equation, making it that much harder

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Speaker 1: because this is rampant. I mean, this story was all

595
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: about that. Like it is. I don't think we can

596
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: stress enough. You know, people probably listen to this and

597
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: the other story with the quiz and they're like, well, yeah,

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00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: that happens somewhere, but not a Joe's Shrimp shack where

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Speaker 1: I go. It might it's it's happening like once it's

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Speaker 1: breaded man, you know, you know what you don't know?

601
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: You know, once you got a little panco on there,

602
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: you don't know. So you know, it's easy to have

603
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: all the faith in the world and like your joint

604
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: or where you get fish, but this is very common

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Speaker 1: and it's tied to economics. It is cheaper. Not only

606
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Speaker 1: are these things more sustainable, it is cheaper to get

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Speaker 1: tilapia than it is a snapper. And like dude, it's

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Speaker 1: a business. You do what's good for business. And if

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Speaker 1: you can do people with tilapia and charge red snapper prices. Unfortunately,

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00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of places that are going to go

611
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: that route because they are there to make money. So

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00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: that is illegal. Right now, we should say you're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to do that, but without the ability to test it,

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Speaker 1: it's just happening. So I mean, you know, I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say. One of the negatives is

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Speaker 1: if if it's so easy to to do this, I

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Speaker 1: d you're gonna force people into buying the real stuff,

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00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: which could drive up seafood prices, because now, if dude's

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00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: got to sell you real tuna, you're gonna pay for

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00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna pay for real tuna. But I

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: would rather know and have be eating something authentic, you know, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So um, this this actually ties very nicely to my

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Speaker 1: first story. Some some similar themes here we're gonna talk snakeheads,

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Speaker 1: which is a favorite subject of mine, and they they've

625
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: just made headlines in a big way out here. And

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00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: things have been pretty quiet on the snakehead front for

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00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: a while. But um, this story is both confirming fears

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Speaker 1: and perhaps exciting a handful of snake obsessed weirdos such

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Speaker 1: as myself. I don't know, but this comes from penn

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Speaker 1: Live dot com and it turns out that just this spring,

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Speaker 1: workers at the Conna Wingo damn, which is the first

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Speaker 1: major damn on the Susquehanna River closest to its mouth,

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Speaker 1: have removed a whopping one thousand pounds of snakeheads from

634
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: the fish ladders. Right, it's a lot. It's a lot

635
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: of snakeheads. It's a lot of snakes. It's a lot.

636
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: You need a lot of frogs to handle thousand pounds

637
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: of snakes. Uh so Um. This is so concerning that

638
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: that Maryland State and federal Resource agencies asked Excelon, the

639
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: company that operates the dam, to completely shut down the

640
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: fish ladder on the eastern side of the river for

641
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: the year, and the ladder on the west side of

642
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: the dam consists of a series of gates and channels

643
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: of water that are actually designed to attract fish into

644
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: a tank like hopper that is then lifted into the

645
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: air to a sorting table where biologists manually sort the fish. So,

646
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: of course the idea of these ladders, as with all adders,

647
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: is to let the right species go through species here

648
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: would be shad herring um that these ladders are supposed

649
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: to help support. I did not know this. Once they're

650
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: in the sorting table, they're then put into trucks with

651
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: portable tanks to be moved further upriver. So it's yeah,

652
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: it's this huge operation and the invasives, of course are

653
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: weeded out, which also includes blue and flathead catfish as

654
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: well as the snakeheads. So folks in that area have

655
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: been concerned for a long time that snakes will invade

656
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: the Susquehanna, and based on those halls, clearly plenty of trying.

657
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: The snakeheads want to be in the Susquehanna very badly.

658
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: They went in, and I know there's some in that river.

659
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: I know people that have caught them, but so far

660
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: they're not nearly as established as they are in other rivers.

661
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: And the bright side, uh is that even if they

662
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: do get through Conna Wingo, they've just got a ton

663
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: more damns. The Susky is damned pretty far up And

664
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: on a personal note, the irony in this for me

665
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: is that, as a guy that's spent a lot of

666
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: time snaking, uh, you know, people are worried that an

667
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: infestation there will hurt small mouth populations, since that's kind

668
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: of what the Susquehannas is really known for, you know,

669
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: it's smallmouth fishing. Um. But as far as I'm concerned,

670
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: all the giant flatheads that have already worked their way

671
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: pretty far upriver, they're gonna kill all the small jaws

672
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: long before a snakehead population like this is happening now already.

673
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and these are not like a bunch of

674
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: little ones. Giant flatheads everywhere they eat swim baits like

675
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: they're everywhere. So I I commend, you know, like the

676
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: effort to keep these invasives from getting further up river

677
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: at Conawingo. Um. But again there's already some problems that

678
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: are very very well established. So final note which I

679
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: found cool. Uh, not only are the damn operators extremely

680
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: committed to doing their part, uh, you know, in this

681
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: manual labor to keep these fish from getting up river.

682
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: Right to date, more than a thousand pounds of snakeheads

683
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: captured in the ladder um. Because this has been going

684
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: on for several years. They got a thousand pounds this spring,

685
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: but over the last few years they've been they've been

686
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: collecting them, over a thousand pounds have already been processed

687
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: and given to local food banks. So the damn folks

688
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: have partnered with a local seafood wholesaler who carts all

689
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: those snakes away and cleans them, and lucky you people

690
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: who happen to use those food banks. Because I've said

691
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: a million times I would take a snakehead fil a

692
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: over a walleye file at any day. So I think

693
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: the end takeaway is that, you know, obviously snakehead numbers

694
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: are increasing, they're not going away, because I mean, a

695
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: thousand pounds of fish in one springs a lot of fish.

696
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: There's there's no doubt. But again, still proving that that

697
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: increase has has devastated any particular fishery or ecosystem is difficult.

698
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's not as cut and dry, But clearly

699
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: these numbers are going up. So I just said, man

700
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: that's that's a ton of snakes. It is, all right.

701
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: So here's my question. They've, assuming they've had these mitigation

702
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: procedures available to them for a long time, they've been

703
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: able to shut off that eastern ladder and divert everything

704
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: to the western ladder where they can sort it. You

705
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: probably the answer to this, But why didn't they do

706
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: that with the catfish? So I and this is my

707
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: basic understanding the snakeheads. You know, they're in the Potomac River,

708
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: They're in a lot of the rivers in Virginia and Maryland,

709
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: and one would assume that those fish are are breeding

710
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: and migrating up the northern Chesapeake Bay and trying to

711
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: get up the Susquehanna River. The consensus around here this

712
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: goes for the Schukol River in Philadelphia as well as

713
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: the Susquehanna, Maryland Pennsylvania. They all had pretty robust channel

714
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: cats stocking regiments, right because it's popular fish, so that

715
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: they've always supplemented channel cats. At some point down the line,

716
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: which happens from some hatchery, a couple of little baby

717
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: flatheads end up in there. You don't know it. Because

718
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: the blue cats are invasive in the Potomac, which is

719
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: would be the next major river south of the Susquehanna,

720
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: So they're trying to keep them out too. But it's

721
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: not like these flatheads were naturally somewhere and then came

722
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: up there. Those were they were stocked inadvertent sort that's

723
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: sort of the consensus of what happened. And I mean,

724
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: I've been there, dude, I've fished for them. You fished

725
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: for them. They are mean. I mean, a thirty pound

726
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: flathead will swallow a three pounds small mouth. He doesn't

727
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: even exist. And it's a it's a real concern. I

728
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: have buddies who fish out there all fall, and they're

729
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: catching just as many flatheads throwing jigs and stuff for

730
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: small mouths as they are a small mouths. So I

731
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: don't think that the overall snakehead worry will ever go away.

732
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: I think a lot more people understand it now and

733
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: are less tense about it. But it's this big shocking

734
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: headline of one thousand pounds of snakehead. In reality, I

735
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about them as much as the flatheads that

736
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: are already up there. You know, it's a branding problem.

737
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: I think it is like a flathead doesn't sound nearly

738
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: as scary as a snakehead. I think it's true. That's

739
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: the issue. Personally, it's true. But you know, yeah, I

740
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: mean I don't, I wish, I I don't know enough

741
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: to come in definitively one way or the other. I

742
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: would say probably the native fish don't need any more

743
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: competitors when they're already having to deal with the flatheads,

744
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: would be. That would be I'm not saying this one

745
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: way or the other on snakehead, but they probably don't

746
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: need any more competition. I do not have a great

747
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: segue other than this is going to talk about No,

748
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: it's not I got nothing. I got nothing. I'm I'm

749
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: all I'm doing is I'm gonna talk about weird objects

750
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: found in or on fish. That's what I'm gonna do. Uh.

751
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: And first, this is a shorty, but this was pretty

752
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: widely reported. A charter captain on Lake Michigan was cleaning

753
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: one of his clients Lake Trout earlier this week and

754
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: found a lego and its stomach, and he was quoted

755
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: as saying, like, I'm gonna try and figure out how

756
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: to read legos, which I don't think is gonna be

757
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: any more effective than a spoon. But you know, it's

758
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of a cute story and a good or minder.

759
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: You know, fish eat all kinds of random stuff, and

760
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: we probably shouldn't pitch anything in the water we don't

761
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: want going into fish. I figured, I figured the trout

762
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: stepped on the lego. It doesn't have hands, so when

763
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: I do that, I pick it up and throw it.

764
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: It was so pissed it just ate it out of anger.

765
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what happened. But that story, like

766
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: the listening that the whole thing. It reminded me of

767
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: another incident from twenty nineteen that has always stuck with me.

768
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember the story about the angler who caught

769
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: a steel head in Lake Michigan, right near Chicago that

770
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: had a wedding ring zip tied to its caudle? Do

771
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: you remember that one. I don't remember the zip tied

772
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: to its caudle specifically, but man, over the years you're

773
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: just covering fish news, there's been the wedding ring on

774
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: the Marlins bill, like wedding ring. There's a bunch of

775
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: wedding rings stuff. We're on a wedding ring kick, so

776
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: just hold on to that. But this one. That one

777
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago stuck to me because

778
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: what happened some fishing guide in Michigan. They gotten divorced

779
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: because because he was a fishing guide. And the guy

780
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: does he claimed it was because his wife hated how

781
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: much he fished, and that ended their marriage, and that's

782
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: not an uncommon story with fishing guides, like vouch for that. Uh.

783
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: And and the guy he thought the ring was cursed

784
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: and he wanted to get rid of it. And alright, fine,

785
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: I can follow you that for But what I can't

786
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: understand is that he decided to zip tie this tainted

787
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: band to a steelhead and then release the fish. Which

788
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: that's just a dick move. Yes, Like, it's not the

789
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: fishes fault. You got divorced that fish. That the fish

790
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: doesn't want to wear that dude symbol of marital failure either,

791
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: and it's sure as hell doesn't want a plastic zip

792
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: tie cutting in his body. Anyway. Seven weeks later, the

793
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: fish was caught again and someone else ended up with

794
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: the ring. Something kind of similar again, we're on the

795
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: wedding ring. Thing kind of similar happened recently about a

796
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: week ago. A woman named Susan Pryor was snorkeling near

797
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: her home on Norfolk Island. And Norfolk is a South

798
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Pacific island between New Zealand and New Caledonia and it's

799
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: technically an austra In province. Prior spotted a sand mullet

800
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: wearing something around its body that looked distinctly out of place.

801
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: So sand mullet feed by rooting their snouts around in

802
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: the sand, hence the name, and and Prior has seen

803
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: them in the past get caught up in other stuff

804
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: like plastic soda rings and and hairtized right because they're

805
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: they're just rooting around the sand and they can easily

806
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: turn something over and swim through and get stuck. But

807
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: this one looked different, and so she caught up to

808
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: the fish when she was snorkeling and actually snapped several pictures.

809
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: You can see these online showing this bone white mullet

810
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: with a gold wedding band just behind its head. Norfolk

811
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: Island is small, It's got like two thousand residents and

812
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: and the word had gone around the community the previous

813
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: Christmas that a tourist had lost his wedding ring while swimming.

814
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: Prior sanding photos of of the bedazzled fish to the

815
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: man who lost his ring, and he confirmed the mullet

816
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: is now wearing his nuptial band. Now here's the interesting

817
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: part for me. Anyway, mullet or notorious difficult to catch

818
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: on Roden rail. We've talked about that. Oh, it's possible,

819
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: but it's really difficult. Work at it. You're gonna work

820
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: at it, right So the idea of trying to target

821
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: one specific individual mullet to catch with with bait, that

822
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: that to me just max of futility. That ain't gonna happen.

823
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: A lot of people who harvest mullet catch them with

824
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: throw nets and and that seems slightly more doable. But

825
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: you're you're still talking about trying to catch one mullet,

826
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: that mullet right there, Yeah, exactly, which is just it's crazy,

827
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: but still prior. This woman is determined. So she's organizing

828
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: this group of locals to go out and like snorkle

829
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: around and try and find that fish and then get

830
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: them to corral that fish over toward fishermen with throw

831
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: nets and catch it. You'll be shocked to hear that

832
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: so far the efforts have not paid off. But it's

833
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: not because it's already been pooped out by a trivoli

834
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: or something. By that the there there is the rings

835
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: owners offering a reward, so maybe they've got the incentive.

836
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that'll happen. I don't know. If it does,

837
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: will update you, but I'm not. I think this is

838
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: the last we're ever going to see that ring personally,

839
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: probably ever lose your wedding ring while fishing. I did,

840
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 1: like I did a thing where I remember I got

841
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: my ring sized and I was like so nervous because

842
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: I was about to get married that I was just

843
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: like rushing and couldn't believe I was ring shopping for myself.

844
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: It was like just like too much to bear. And

845
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: I put the size on. I'm like, yeah, this is

846
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: the right size. But then I got the ring which

847
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: was like titanium carbide, unsizeable and it was way too big.

848
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: But rather than make a thing because my wife was

849
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: already stressed out about other wedding stuff, I was like,

850
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's totally fine. Fine. I was like, I'm

851
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna lose it. And I lost it and I found

852
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: it in a riffle. Like I went back and I

853
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: found it in a riffle in a small mouth stream,

854
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: and then I got a different ring. The ring I

855
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: wear now is is a cheaper ring that won't come off.

856
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: But it's not my actual wedding man. So that is

857
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: that is my ring story. But I hope they get

858
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: the mullet um. You know that that would mean that

859
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: would be neat. But I wouldn't hold out hope for

860
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: for that. Anyway. She had had a tiny spear gun,

861
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: it would have been done. Um. Anyway, I'm trying to

862
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: think she's a crusader though she's trying to save the fish.

863
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: That's she doesn't care about the range. She's like, the

864
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: poor fish has weighted down. She don't want to spread

865
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: that fish. Oh, the fish is fine, it's fine. Anyway.

866
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a good transition here. I

867
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: don't have it. So I'll just back pedal and say

868
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: that I was gonna do that that really um, you know,

869
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: thoughtful piece that you did on on on the pen

870
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: that tells you what kind of fish you have. But

871
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: I I trumped that because I hate to say it,

872
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: but the Fonds is in trouble again. Ah, yes, yes,

873
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: I saw this one. The Funds. I don't gotta do nothing. Yeah,

874
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: So Henry Winkler, who of course played the funds on

875
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: Happy Days, has angered the masses with a shameful, horrible,

876
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: stomach turning photo on Twitter. Get this of him holding

877
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: a nice cutthroat trout, and then to pour salt in

878
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: the wound of this atrocity, he had the gall to

879
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: caption the photo. I can't even express the beauty everywhere

880
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: on our planet. How dare you, fawns, how dare you

881
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: enjoy fly fishing and smile ear to ear with a

882
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: gorgeous trout? So to backfill just a bit, I'm sure

883
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: some of you know that Henry Winkler is an extremely

884
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: avid fly fisherman. He's written has he written a book

885
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: about it? Do I have that? That's That's why this

886
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: this why I don't get why this is a story

887
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: exactly we're gonna get to this. Couplished an entire book

888
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: called I Never Met Him. I think it was like

889
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: I never met an idiot on the river something like that. Yes,

890
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: so he's he's written a book, he's written about fly fish,

891
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: and he's been interviewed about it at nausea. Um. Okay,

892
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: but here's something I did not know. I only learned

893
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: this after reading this story on pop culture dot com.

894
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: Apparently the Funds has a ton of new fans, right,

895
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: and these are young people, you know, like millennials and

896
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: junk that, while perhaps are there un familiar with his

897
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: screen work or his his history, have just gravitated to

898
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: his Twitter account. Now I don't know, yeah, I don't

899
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: know what Henry's appeal is to the next generation. Frankly, right,

900
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: he's seventy year old dude worth according to this like

901
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: forty mill which allows him to just really live the

902
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: dream these days and just fish and do nature stuff

903
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: and enjoy himself. But when he recently posted this grip

904
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: and grin, you saw this, it was like met with

905
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: this insane outrage, just like off the charts and negativity,

906
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: which I don't fully understand because again, it's sure as

907
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: hell not like this is the first time the Fonds

908
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: has been seen holding a fish on the internet. So no,

909
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that there's a grip and grin on

910
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: the cover of his book exactly, and furthermore, just from

911
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: a fishing perspective, in my opinion, this is like the

912
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: most benign, respectful grip and grin you could ask for. Like, so,

913
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: Henry is on. He's on a small mountain stream beaming

914
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: over this catch. The fly is still in the trout's

915
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: mouth and he's supporting it appropriately. His hands appear to

916
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: be wet, and he also might be kneeling. I'm not sure,

917
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: but even if I'm wrong, when you see, if you agree,

918
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: when you look at enough fishing photos, like you can

919
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: tell the difference between stage shots where like someone played

920
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: with the fish or posed or moved around to get

921
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: like this perfect awesome fish shot versus like a quick

922
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: snap before release. And this reads like just snap this

923
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: real quick so I can put this fish back, Yes,

924
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: and and and what I'd say that the look on

925
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: his face supports that because he's genuine back. Yeah. Yeah.

926
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: So it reads to me like a very respectful gripping grant.

927
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: Yet he's just a small sampling of the comments that

928
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: Fonzie received on Twitter. I hope you put that beautiful

929
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: fish back in the beautiful water to continue to live

930
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: a beautiful, peaceful life. Take a photo, don't rip an

931
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: animal out of its natural environment with a hook through

932
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: its face. You can feel something. Honestly, fishing is weird, man.

933
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: I would agree with your caption, but showing off a

934
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: poor dead fish sure doesn't jive with the message I

935
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: bet you the fish which she went anywhere, But they're

936
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: for your beauty and nature fixed now. Of course, many

937
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: people came to the Funds defense in his Twitter feeds,

938
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: stressing that he's a big time catching release guy and

939
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: like he's been fishing a long time, to which someone responded,

940
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: catching releases almost as bad. It's stressing that little being,

941
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: and of course the being part went just everybody. There

942
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: were so many replies to that, my favorite being you

943
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: just killed ten thousand dust mites by sitting down murder.

944
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: That's their favorite one. So maybe maybe you have. But

945
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: like I've never interviewed Henry, we've never crossed paths, but

946
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: everything I've ever heard from people that have have spent

947
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: time with him, he's like he is the sweetest guy,

948
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: a staunch conservationist, and a hell of an angler. And

949
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm also I'm all for, as are you the occasional

950
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: debate about catching release best practices and stuff among anglers

951
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: with an understanding of the sport and the fish. These

952
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: comments are just coming from people just appalled with zero

953
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: understanding of fishing. And I'd just like to say sorry,

954
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: Funds right as a man that went out of his

955
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: way to pose with the bronze Fons statue of you

956
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. Okay, I feel bad for you. If if

957
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: Milwaukee wasn't such a fishy town, I'd worry they try

958
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: and take the statue down now. But let's just leave

959
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: the Funds alone. Just shut up and let the man fish.

960
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Please everywhere, right go everywhere? Right turny is there. It's

961
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: like having gumlanting your shoe. I got two things I

962
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: want to say about this before before we close it out.

963
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Number one, I can I think I actually have some

964
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: secondhand support for what you say about him being a

965
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: good dude. I had a bunch of friends who guided

966
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: at a lodge. I almost guided there myself here in

967
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: Montana where he was a regular, and a bunch of

968
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: people I know and friends of mine guided him and

969
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: said nothing but good things. And I can tell you

970
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: what as a guide, you learned pretty quickly the people

971
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: in your boat, if they're good people are not. You

972
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: can't hide all day on on the water of thing is.

973
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: I feel a little bad for for Mr Winkler being

974
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: pigeonholed as the Fonds because he's gone on to do

975
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: so many other great things in his more contemporary career.

976
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: Not he was a coach, He was a coach water boy.

977
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: But have you seen Barry? The show's brilliant and he

978
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: is brilliant in it, like I would like, I think

979
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: we should all celebrate him for his more contemporary work.

980
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: I for one believe that. And finally, Winkler, Mr Winkler, Henry,

981
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: if I may, if you're listening, you're welcome on the

982
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: show anytime, and we'll take the fision anytime you want

983
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: to go any time. I gotta say I pulled a

984
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: couple of of of of Fonzi quotes there, but in

985
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: finding those, I got lost in a Happy Day's rabbit hole,

986
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is actually really funny, Like I

987
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: should go back and watch more Happy Days. I never

988
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: paid that much attention. So we'll feel we'll see if

989
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: Phil wants to go see Spiracy, if he wants to

990
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: go Happy Days. A lot of choices here for Phil.

991
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: And then as soon as we're done hearing from Phil

992
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: this week, we're going to do a sale bin that

993
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys have been asking for. Ten

994
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: card people, this one's for you, Joe. It is always

995
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: important to get an occasional reminder to steer clear of

996
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: the comment section. So thank you for that story. But

997
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: I have to give the window Miles this week for

998
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: giving us a little sneak peek on what to look

999
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: for in next year's sky Mall catalog. Guys, the Spotify

1000
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: playlist is awesome. What a great idea. Good job on that, Joe.

1001
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: I think you wanted me to come for the Jimmy

1002
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: World and stay for the Bad Brains, which was very thoughtful,

1003
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: but I actually ended up coming for the Psychedelic Furs

1004
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: and staying for Peter Satara. So jokes on you, or

1005
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: more so Miles, it sounds like, why did you put

1006
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: the hand to pay? You don't know what I'm getting? Man,

1007
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: what you didn't have to be so hurtful with me,

1008
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: so angry. So we've we've just chimed this in as

1009
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: a sail bin. We're gonna call this a sail bin.

1010
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: It's really not a sale. Mean though, as some of

1011
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: you guys know, Miles was recently um out here on

1012
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: the East Coast at my house. And even though this

1013
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: is you're gonna hear this later, he's here right now. Look,

1014
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: he's at my kitchen table. No, this is this is

1015
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: a time warp because I'm sitting here at the kids

1016
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: were three feet apart, and it's been like we hadn't

1017
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: seen each other in person in a year. We've had

1018
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: some fun out here. You guys will see all that

1019
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: fun later. But we're like we we'd be we'd be

1020
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: stupid not to not to lay something down while we're

1021
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: in the same room. So my kids are at school,

1022
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: it's quiet here. The house is in relatively nice order

1023
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: because you're a house guest, so we've cleaned for you,

1024
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: which was unnecessary but appreciate it. And we figured, since

1025
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: we're just sitting here shooting ship, um, let's let's talk

1026
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: about ten carra because we we've made fun a ten

1027
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: car a time where two and and, as you pointed out,

1028
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people writing in and go, hey, it's

1029
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: stop making fun of me in my ten car rode.

1030
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: It goes one of two ways we get we get

1031
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: to to polarized responses. It's either hey, man, like, why

1032
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: are you gonna be so hard on ten car It's

1033
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: it's fun and I agree. We've said this, we have

1034
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: admitted this publicly. Ten Carra is fun. It's the culture

1035
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: around ten Carra that we find so ripe for ridicule, right,

1036
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: And that's because something has just happened recently, which a

1037
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: lot of you guys have tuned us into this. Just

1038
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: this proves our points so freaking well. For all of

1039
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: you out there were like, come on, man, quit it on. No,

1040
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: right now we have proof that the whole culture and

1041
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: scene of Tinkara sucks. What what did we find? What? What?

1042
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: What is this? So? Just a couple of days ago, Uh,

1043
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: this this fashion clothing brand called Supreme the skate scene.

1044
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: I feel like they might have been skate posers, but

1045
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: I think mostly they're just like urban fashion. I think

1046
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: whatever is like urban fashion. They slapped their label on.

1047
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: And here's the funny thing about this story, because we

1048
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: did the news thing not too long ago about the

1049
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: Pokemon lures and how in Japan it's like a big

1050
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: deal for these fashion brands and things to have fishing products,

1051
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: and we were like, I hope that doesn't start happening

1052
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: here and ship wouldn't you know it? Well? I mean, god,

1053
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: so what's it's? It's it's similar because as it's Supreme,

1054
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: the American fashion company and a Japanese company called South

1055
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: to West eight, and together they have made a whole

1056
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: line of fashion accessories to go along with a ten

1057
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: carra rod, and it's it's truly awful. I'm Supreme now

1058
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: has a tan car a rod, but then they've created

1059
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: this whole other line of wearables around the tan car rod. Essentially,

1060
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: so like you, you'd buy the tan car rod and

1061
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: then like to fit the whole bill, you'd buy all

1062
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: this other ship to where while your ten car fishing.

1063
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: So I think I need to quote some of the

1064
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 1: things that I've been reading about this. Here here's one.

1065
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: While fully functional, it's not the type of gear you'd

1066
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: expect to see at the river. And indeed, because of

1067
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: Supreme's customer base, many if not most, of the people

1068
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: who purchase will have no intentions of fishing in it.

1069
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: This sort of cause playing is an unprecedented in fashion.

1070
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: Just look at the populative car heart outside of blue

1071
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: collar workers, and fishing should never be compared to cause play.

1072
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: Everything about that to me is wrong. And this just

1073
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: this undermines all of these efforts that we have to

1074
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: genuinely bring people into fishing and participate in sport. This

1075
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: ship isn't helping it's fishing is not cause play. It's

1076
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: not a fetish that you do like there, there's there.

1077
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: It should not turn into like a furry convention in Vegas.

1078
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: That's not fishing. I have a problem. According to one

1079
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: one fly fishing forum, here's another quote, I guarantee not

1080
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: a single fish will be caught with one of these.

1081
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: If you are, you are releasing a fishing product and

1082
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: a fishing line. And the response from the fishing community

1083
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: is I guarantee not a single fish will be caught.

1084
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: There is a fundamental issue, agreed. The wheels have fallen

1085
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: off the goddamn bus. So you were reading one a

1086
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: little while ago. It was like a review. I've read

1087
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: a couple of reviews and there are words in here

1088
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Give us a sample. Where is this

1089
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: coming from? Again? This is coming from input, which is

1090
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: I think like a fashion blog. I'm not. I'm not

1091
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: totally sure. The intro Goes Supreme is going fairly niche

1092
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: for its latest collaboration, partnering with the Japanese fishing brand

1093
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: South to West eight. The outcome is some of the

1094
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: steaziest gear you've ever seen, But in this era of

1095
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: fashion is immersion into GORP. You don't need to know

1096
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: how to cast. This doesn't even make sense. You don't

1097
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: need to know how to cast a real R E

1098
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: A L to embrace the look. Now, what steazy mean?

1099
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: Is that what the kids are saying? What is that?

1100
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: I think the kids were saying that like fifteen years ago.

1101
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe I've ever heard it. I mean, it's

1102
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: like your swag man, your swagger. You and you looked

1103
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: up gorp, so don't actually maybe do look up gor

1104
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: bun urban dictionary, but we can't say what comes up

1105
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: when you look up German dictionary. And that's not what

1106
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: they meant. So GORP, as I've always known, is another

1107
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: an acronym for trail mix. You didn't know this, so

1108
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: trail mix. But apparently in the fashion scene there's a

1109
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: new and I had to look this up. There's a

1110
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: new term in the fashion scene called GORP core. Here's

1111
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: here's the definition. Gorp Corps, named after the cloak wheel

1112
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: term for trail mix is a style focused around utilitarian,

1113
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: functional outdoors inspired gears. So just like that. Other articles

1114
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: comparing this new collaboration with Supreme to how Carhart is

1115
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: making the the blue collar cool I think that all.

1116
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: I think it's like a new version into I want

1117
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: to look like I do stuff outdoors without doing stuff

1118
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: outdoors while still being fashionable, all of which does not

1119
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: make sense to me. It just doesn't. Well, So the

1120
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: rod is I mean, the rod is just a tin

1121
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: car odd. But the clothing, like, if you look at

1122
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: the picture of this attire, what comes to mind is like,

1123
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: who's that rapper that's always in the news, like six

1124
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: nine or something. He was in jail. He's got the

1125
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: rainbow hair, and he would wear this, He would wear this.

1126
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: It definitely looks like six nine would be all about this.

1127
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: I have trouble describing it, to be perfectly honest with you,

1128
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: This stuff is is just some of the strangest thing.

1129
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: One is like a it's like a mosquito netting shirt

1130
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: but that's tied eyed and goes all the way over

1131
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: your whole face. But there's there's a there's a promotional

1132
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: image here where the dude's got his entire face covered

1133
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: by this tide eyed mosquito netting clothing, but he's wearing shorts.

1134
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: See and see there that does there's a problem. Yeah, yeah,

1135
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: I think my takeaway I think for the people who

1136
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: are like, stop making fun of me ten Car. It's like, well,

1137
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: we already kind of have something like a little bit

1138
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: to make fun of in that culture, but now, like, look,

1139
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this? Like now they've taken

1140
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: this thing that you love and given this opportunity to

1141
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: like now now it's even cheesier, and now it's your

1142
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: tactic that it's been adopted by the non fish people

1143
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: for the fishing cause play. Okay, they're not making cause play,

1144
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, slick bibbs and uh, you know, trolling reels.

1145
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: They went right after ten Car. I would hope the

1146
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: true like people who actually like to tin car fish

1147
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: hate this the most. That's that would be my expectation.

1148
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: Like for me, as someone who's kind of outside of

1149
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: that scene and likes to poke fun at it, this

1150
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: is just grisp for the mill. It's just more gasoline

1151
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: I can throw into this fire that I think is funny.

1152
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: If I for those of you out there who are like, no, man,

1153
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: I love tin car and I think it's like the

1154
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: most pure, wonderful way of fishing, you should be incensed

1155
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: right now. You should be like willing to burned down

1156
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: the Supreme Store. If again, if I were you, that

1157
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: would be how I'd feel. Um there, I gotta throw

1158
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: a couple more quotes in here. Fleece jackets the ultimate

1159
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: fodder for gorp devotes. I'm sorry. There's also a long

1160
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: sleeved t shirt if costume esque dressing is lesser thing,

1161
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 1: and the accessory front is represented by a mesh game

1162
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: bag and hats of the jungle bush and balaklava variety.

1163
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: Crucially Supreme in South to West Ate have also crafted

1164
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: a co Brandon tag car rod and we just hope

1165
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: they're good enough to put to use instead of being

1166
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: mounted on the walls of a bunch of dorks ikea

1167
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: decorated apartments. And that, my friends, is what is destined

1168
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: to happen with all of these rods. And that's what's

1169
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: wrong with this idea. Well, you've already ben letting us

1170
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: know what you think. Keep doing that. This has been

1171
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: kind of sale, bin, but really just making fun of

1172
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: tin car in Joe's kitchen. And we're gonna go have

1173
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: another beer now. Okay, I got to amend us a

1174
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: little bit. We will not judge anyone for bobber fishing

1175
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: unless they do so with that gear. Holy shit, that's

1176
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: straight up horrible. Wow, it is, and thanks again to

1177
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: all of you out there who found that before we

1178
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: did and send us links. I know we sometimes make

1179
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: up dumb stuff to poke fun at fishing culture, but

1180
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: even we couldn't come up with something that over the

1181
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: top satirical. Nope, but we could not have done that.

1182
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: That one is real. Sadly, yes, yes, but we're not

1183
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: going to close out this week's show that way. As promised,

1184
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna circle back to the lowly bobber in this

1185
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: week's end of the line segment. Well, that's not loud enough.

1186
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: My intention when I agreed to this end of the

1187
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: line segment was to trace the history of the iconic

1188
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: red and white push button bobber, mostly out of spite.

1189
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: As soon as we'll be easy, North Americans have crowned

1190
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: the round bobber as are angling archetype. It's the universally

1191
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: accepted visual symbol for fishing, the profile that companies slap

1192
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: on all kinds of products to tap into the seemingly

1193
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: lucrative market of shit non fisherman buy for their friends

1194
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: and family who like to fish. It's on T shirts, hats,

1195
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: beer coozies, Christmas tree ornaments, throw pillows, coffee mugs, folding chairs, flasks,

1196
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: even face masks, and the whole thing is frankly annoying.

1197
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: As we discussed earlier in the show round clip on,

1198
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: bobbers might be the least effective fishing float ever made.

1199
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: They're only attributes are that they're idiotically simple to use

1200
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: and relatively visible in the water. So the fact that

1201
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: they've become the visual representation of the act and culture

1202
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: of fishing, printed on all manner of stuff and then

1203
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: given to serious anglers really is insulting. Committed cyclists don't

1204
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: get shirts with pictures of training wheels on them at

1205
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: every birthday. It's no wonder that bobber fishing gets such

1206
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: a bad rap among anglers of all types. It's it's

1207
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: this kind of albatross we all carry a regular reminder

1208
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: that the broader culture thinks we're complete idiots who tax

1209
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: our meager brain capacity trying to outwit creatures with problem

1210
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: solving skills. Again to Gerbils, But despite the red and

1211
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: white bobber's ubiquity, I couldn't find any backstory for it.

1212
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: I have no idea who invented it, and no explanation

1213
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: for where, when, or how it became the ever present

1214
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: force that it is. And you know what, I don't

1215
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: really care because those things float. Fishing actually has a

1216
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: rich backstory. Over the past few centuries. Anglers have poured

1217
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: as much thought and innovation into floats is just about

1218
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: any other piece of gear ever invented. I'm sure that

1219
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: fishing cultures all over the world independently figured out the

1220
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: advantage of adding something buoyant to the line. I mean, first,

1221
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: it keeps your bait suspended at a constant depth, and

1222
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: second it lets you know when a fish has taken it.

1223
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: So those are two pretty significant advantages that I'm guessing

1224
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: just about every fishing culture figured out. But just like

1225
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: so many traditions, the culture we have most readily available

1226
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: documentation for is that of Western Europe, so that's mostly

1227
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: what I found. The online British Fishing Museum claims that

1228
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: anglers have been using floats since at least the fourth

1229
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: century a d. But they don't actually provide any evidence,

1230
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: and I didn't see that sided anywhere else. But just

1231
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: about every source I found agrees that the first printed

1232
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: reference to fishing floats game in four in the Treaties

1233
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: of Fishing with an Angle, which is often said it

1234
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: as the first text about fishing ever published in English.

1235
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: It gives relatively detailed instructions on how to fashion corkflow

1236
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: and use bird feather quills as bobber stops. About a

1237
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: hundred years later, the quill bobber appeared in the Art

1238
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: of Angler, published in fifteen seventy seven by an unknown author.

1239
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: That book suggests pushing together to cut swan feather quills

1240
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: to make a cylindrical float. A couple of centuries after that,

1241
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: international trade brought African porcupine quills to British anglers, which

1242
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: was a huge step up from trying to jam to

1243
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: cut swan feather quills together, which really seems like a

1244
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,520
Speaker 1: pain in the ass. African porcupine quills are light, watertight,

1245
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: relatively straight, and hard as rhino horn. In fact, they're

1246
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 1: still used as floats. You can go buy some online

1247
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: right now. Prior to the nineteenth century, anglers had to

1248
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: make their own floats and they were pretty much limited

1249
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: to basic egg shaped corks or quills. But through the

1250
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: mid eighteen hundreds, as recreational fishing grew in England, they

1251
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: became a commercially viable product, As is so often the case,

1252
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: commodification drove innovation. By the early twentieth century, hundreds if

1253
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: not thousands, of floats were available in various shapes, sizes,

1254
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: and applications. Manufacturers started using different materials like balsa and

1255
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 1: aluminum and experimenting with unique designs like adding counterweights and

1256
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: creating section telescoping floats. Once plastic became available in the

1257
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: commercial market for fishing tackle exploded post World War Two,

1258
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 1: just about everyone was trying to build a better bomber.

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Speaker 1: I actually dug into patents for fishing floats, and I

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Speaker 1: found all kinds of crazy designs that haven't really caught on.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna share a few of these with you.

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Speaker 1: I found ones that claimed to set the hook automatically.

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Speaker 1: Ones that light up or send out radio signals when

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Speaker 1: a fish takes the bait. Ones that hold the baited

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Speaker 1: hook in a protected cup so that it won't fly

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Speaker 1: off midcast, and then deposit the hook and the bait

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Speaker 1: in the water upon landing. Ones with built in speakers

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Speaker 1: that emit fish attracted sounds. Ones with propellers to hold

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Speaker 1: their position against tide and current. There's even a patent

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Speaker 1: that tried to claim intellectual property ownership over quote a

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Speaker 1: hollow body filled with trapped air. I happen to know

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Speaker 1: from inside information that one didn't stand up one challenging court.

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Speaker 1: But the point is, float fishing has inspired a vast

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Speaker 1: catalog of creative genius. Floats represent one of the most

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Speaker 1: elegant aspects of fishing, taking a dead simple concept and

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Speaker 1: elevating it through creativity, innovation, and craft. So set up

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Speaker 1: that slip opera and rig that stick float with pride.

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Speaker 1: For much of the continuum of phishing history, floats have

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Speaker 1: been paragons of fishing innovation and effectiveness. Only recently, like

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Speaker 1: within the past generation, has their public perception been corrupted.

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Speaker 1: Not coincidentally, that change seems to have corresponded with the

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Speaker 1: rise of the red and white bobber as the culturally

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Speaker 1: accepted symbol of fishing. So once again, I blame the

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Speaker 1: round bobber. That thing that's all we have on this episode.

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Speaker 1: But if you're sifting through the flotsam of discarded floats, bobbers,

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Speaker 1: and balloons recently washed ashore, you'll discover that asking a

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Speaker 1: phishing shop employee to borrow his car because you don't

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Speaker 1: have a spare tire is totally inappropriate. Bugnet camo is

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Speaker 1: the absolute worst would be fashion trend since leisure suits,

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Speaker 1: and that attaching a buoyant device to your leader doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily mean you're a novice angler, but judging someone else

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Speaker 1: for doing so definitely makes you an asshole. I could

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Speaker 1: not agree more with all those stating all those statements. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about it. Also, hit us on the Gram

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Speaker 1: dot com. Please do and also do yourself a favor

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Go bobber fishing. Don't don't use the little

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Speaker 1: red and white one, but go bobber fishing, especially if

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Speaker 1: you think you're too good for it,