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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: R Heart Media, I heart Podcast. One eleven Productions, one

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Speaker 1: eleven podcasts, one eleven Media. There's so many companies to name.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by my intrepid crew Daniel Romo, Amy Sugarman,

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Speaker 1: Suzanne French and we're gonna do a season six wrap

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Speaker 1: up Q and A. But first, I'm excited to go

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Speaker 1: to Tupelo, Mississippi. So I'm gonna be there at the

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Speaker 1: Tupelo Con March sixteenth through eighteen. And if you want

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Speaker 1: And Amy's got some question John as well.

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Speaker 2: First I wanted to ask you guys, like, is anyone

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Speaker 2: a little weirded out? I am that were like to

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Speaker 2: the last season of Gilmore Girls.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little real it flew by. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it seems like yesterday I picked up a phone and

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Speaker 1: called you about this idea I had of a rewatch podcast.

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Speaker 1: Think it was an original idea it all. It really wasn't.

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Speaker 2: And is it anyone else?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess maybe in my mind it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's the Palladinos last episode. Now. I love West Wing also,

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Speaker 2: and Aaron Sorkin did leave the show and I continued

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Speaker 2: to love it, but it is they are such unique

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Speaker 2: creators that it is a little weird to be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the main creators of the show are gone.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Was that weird for you when they left, Scott?

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Speaker 2: Was it sad?

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Speaker 2: And were you stressed?

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Speaker 1: I mean we didn't know if we were going to

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Speaker 1: there's there's these loyalties that you have to Amy and

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Speaker 1: loyalties to your mortgage and your family, and.

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Speaker 2: Are some things beyond your control, Like if you have

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Speaker 1: Well, you can, but and our contracts were but I'd

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Speaker 1: It's not a distrusted They did it intentionally because they

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Speaker 1: Name one likable thing that he has ever said or done?

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Speaker 1: A hell of a thing to do to the dream couple.

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Speaker 1: So here's in a negotiation, any negotiation, you have to

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Speaker 6: Now, the show is them trying to give together and

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Speaker 6: I mean and look probably wrong, so whatever, But this is.

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Speaker 1: My guess is you haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of Christopher and Lorelai? What's gonna

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Can you give me like no, absolutely not Suzanne, after

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Speaker 3: Well, So, I I didn't realize that we weren't doing

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Speaker 2: You cheated pumpkin Eater?

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Speaker 3: Oh I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were reaching.

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Speaker 1: But you can't talk about it right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never had a problem with it, and Scott

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Speaker 2: Are you nervous, No, you're just ready to get into it.

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Speaker 2: Well, so that's the one thing I sort of wanted

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Speaker 2: And Danielle, you don't need to take your headphones off.

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Speaker 3: It, right, It makes a different impact when you're at

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, Scott, we're bringing in everybody to talk to you,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet them. Hi, Lauren, how are

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Speaker 5: I'm good. It's nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Where are you calling in from?

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Speaker 5: I am in New York City?

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Speaker 1: Ah, the Big Apple? All right? Yeah, all right, so

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Speaker 5: I was hoping you guys could compare the first and

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Speaker 3: wait to move forward until things were right with Rory,

433
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: Whereas with the Luke and April situation, Luke wasn't really

434
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 3: seeing what an impact he was having on Laurel I,

435
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 3: and there wasn't really like a defined endpoint at which

436
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: he was going to bring her in. So to me,

437
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 3: that's kind of what the difference between the two is.

438
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 7: We all know how I feel because I feel so

439
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 7: it's a double standard for me, or you know, like

440
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 7: why did Luke just patiently deal right like he's just

441
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 7: like I'm gonna push off my needs.

442
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: I'm here to support you and Rory. I mean, even

443
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: to the point where one of the reasons Lorli proposes

444
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: to him is because he's so fiercely loyal to her

445
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: in supporting the situation with Rory. So I've always had

446
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: more of an issue as everybody knows and screams at

447
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: me that Lorli didn't give him the same thing. Yes,

448
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: I understand, like she's hurt and he's not including her

449
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: where she did include him. But I've always felt like

450
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: we like, let's give him the same grace, right, the

451
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: same everything. And I think if you're in a true partnership,

452
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: then you put your her own needs a side when

453
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: your partner is going through something so significant. And I

454
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: always felt like Luke did that and Loralai didn't.

455
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how I feel too. I also feel like

456
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: he pushed her a little bit on his frustrations versus

457
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: her silence and then sort of implusion.

458
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think about this in the

459
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: following way. Is Luke staying is the charter? Are the

460
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: writers honoring the character of Luke? Is Luke acting in

461
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: a way that is consistent with his character in that

462
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 1: he displays this in this this incredible patience over an

463
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: eight year period waiting for Loralai. And you could say

464
00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: that there's that's passion, that's committed, that's patience, that's everything

465
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: you want in a partner, steadfastness, faith, And I think

466
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: it proves that he will never even think about another

467
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: woman the rest of his life. And I think that's

468
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: what he that's what that character establishes in the first

469
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: you first five seasons, and then up until the April thing.

470
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: And I think his character doesn't change at all because

471
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: April arrives and now he's giving her the time, and

472
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: and it's another selfless act. He's a very selfless character.

473
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't put himself first. He puts people he loves first. Laura,

474
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: I was always first. I'm going to wait for her.

475
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to gamble that she is. I'm going to

476
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: wait it out and gamble that she's going to be

477
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: mine one day. And if she isn't, I don't care.

478
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody else. And now here's April, and

479
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to like, Okay, now I'm going to pay

480
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: attention to her. He doesn't have the capacity to do both.

481
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: He's in a situation where life has thrown him a curveball,

482
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's that he doesn't react

483
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: well to it. He just does what he does, which

484
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: is he becomes He remains this selfless, steadfast figure who

485
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: wants to be a rock in his daughter's life, and

486
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: he wants to establish a relationship with her that's solid

487
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: and grounded because he doesn't know what she's getting at

488
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: home from from Anna, and he wants to make sure

489
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: that he's a port in the storm, and that takes

490
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: time to establish, and he understands that. And I was

491
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: disappointed that Laurel and I understand in a relationship, it's frustrating,

492
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: and Laurela has every right to to feel the way

493
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: she feels, but I was always surprised that she didn't

494
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: really understand that about him.

495
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: I think that Suzanne and Lauren, I'm curious what you

496
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: guys think of this. The fans that are so quick

497
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: to be sort of mad at Luke and team Lareli,

498
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: are they not taking into account what a major thing

499
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: this is like To me, this is life altering. The

500
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: world has stopped. He just found out he has a kid.

501
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: And I know, like Suzanne, you you have like a

502
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: sort of a different take on it. But for me,

503
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: it's so like if I were Laurli, I would be like,

504
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: take a year, take two years, take whatever you need

505
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: to feel comfortable with your daughter, and will be good

506
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: because we have forever.

507
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 5: I don't know, That's what I don't I don't think

508
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: I would feel that patient, but at the same time,

509
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 5: I think I would try to communicate that she just

510
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: didn't say anything until she couldn't take it anymore, and

511
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 5: so I.

512
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: Completely agree with that that was That was it for

513
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: me too, was because she was being quiet that whole time,

514
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: because that's what Luke wanted. Like Luke didn't want her.

515
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: She was she thought she was supporting him and in

516
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: forming his relationship with April, but then you know, she

517
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: waited so long and he wouldn't let her in that

518
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: it just eventually came to a head. And I completely

519
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: agreed there should have been a conversation way earlier. She

520
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: should not have just let it go until the point

521
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: where she just explodes all over him. She should have,

522
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: you know, stood up for what she was feeling and

523
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: not not in a mean or aggressive way or demanding

524
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: to be with April or anything like that, but just

525
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: sort of like the conversation that they started to have

526
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: at Martha's vineyard, she was like, I just don't think

527
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: this wedding is going to happen. Like I wish they

528
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: could have kind of continued that discussion again so that

529
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: he could see the impact that the whole thing was

530
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: having on her.

531
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 5: I think, do you think the writers intended the juxtaposition

532
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: like between the the two of the seasons.

533
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: I do, because that's why I see the hypocrisy. Like

534
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: Luke was so there when Lorala I was in this

535
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: traumatic situation and patient, and yes he communicated how he

536
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: was feeling better than she did. But then when the

537
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: roles were reversed, she didn't, in my opinion, just my opinion,

538
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: quite level up to what he had done when he

539
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: was in when she was in a situation. And that's

540
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: just how I saw it.

541
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: I think, I think it was intentional, and I just

542
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I have to point out that the

543
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: whole situation even started because Luke is the one that

544
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: didn't communicate about April, Like that's kind of what set

545
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: the whole thing off. So he didn't communicate with her

546
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: about April, and then she didn't communicate, well.

547
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: She didn't communicate right away that there was a problem

548
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: between her and Rory. I can't remember. I mean, she

549
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: doesn't communicate to the town. But there was one secret.

550
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: There was one instance where Luke did try to tell her,

551
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: but there was an interruption.

552
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that happens a couple of times.

553
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does happen a couple of times.

554
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: He did try a few times, but she kept trying.

555
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean, but it's also what a big scary thing.

556
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think everyone's so quick to be

557
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: like he should have just told her.

558
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 5: I think you see like the best of Luke in

559
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 5: the first half and then like the worst. It's sort

560
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 5: of like him and his absolute, you know, most magnificent,

561
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 5: supportive and then all of his communication failures that he

562
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 5: struggles with.

563
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: I never saw it as the worst of him. That's

564
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: just me, and I know everybody just like guts me

565
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: for it. But I just see a person trying to

566
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: deal with something that's so humongous, and like you, when

567
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: you are in real life and you're dealing with that,

568
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: You're not going to do it perfectly. You're going to

569
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: probably mess it up super bad. You look like Lowerli

570
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: with brown eyes.

571
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: Oh thanks, they're green, but I'll take that.

572
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, this is zoom, but I just got blue.

573
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: Oh oh my gosh, what do you do in New York?

574
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: Are you?

575
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: I am a stay at home mom to four kids.

576
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Oh nice?

577
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's crazy.

578
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: How did you even find the time or peace to

579
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: join our show.

580
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 5: My husband was really excited for me. So if you

581
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 5: took the kids outside, what age is ten, eight, six

582
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: and three?

583
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: Oh god? In the city or out bedrooms?

584
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: Did you see rooms on the Upper West Side?

585
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wait, kids in one bedroom?

586
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

587
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, bunk beds. You know.

588
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: I know all my friends from New York are like,

589
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: it's totally fine. They moved to LA and they're like,

590
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: I live in a mansion and it's like a two

591
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: bedroom department. They're like, like.

592
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 5: I was raised in Orange County, so I do sort

593
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: of know the opposite option, and I've chosen this. So

594
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: it was the Gilmore Girls. They gave me the East

595
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: Coast desire.

596
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 8: So sweet.

597
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: Before you go, how do you feel about season seven?

598
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Have you seen that last week?

599
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: I actually, after I listened to your recap, I just

600
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 5: binged season seven. I feel like you have to get

601
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: it out of your system and you can't start it,

602
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: like you can't take it slowly. I feel for you guys,

603
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 5: because it's so painful and then it gets better. But

604
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 5: I feel okay about season seven. When it first aired,

605
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 5: I was in high school and it was honestly more

606
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: than my heart could handle. I was really I was

607
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 5: really angsty about it. But now that I'm you know,

608
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 5: an adult, I feel I feel better about it.

609
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we let Danielle go because we were we didn't

610
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: want to in case there are spoilers.

611
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 7: Daniel we didn't let her go, but we let her

612
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 7: go to Day No Longer with the podcast.

613
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Where was that, you know, paranoid.

614
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 5: Lose her?

615
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we want people to be able to like

616
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: speak freely, and it's really hard to sort of analyze

617
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: the whole show without analyzing the whole show. But well

618
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: that's what I felt like.

619
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: I was like, now I have to do this in

620
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: context of like, I think Christopher is just something she's

621
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 5: got to get out of her system.

622
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Do you do you hate Christopher like Susanna.

623
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: Like so much?

624
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 9: Like I can't.

625
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 5: I cannot handle him. No, Scott Luke was my first crush.

626
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 5: I was very you know, impressionable age and Christopher was

627
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 5: so I was like, he's so easy, and I'm like the.

628
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: Only person that likes Christopher in the universe. But I don't.

629
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: I like Luke better obviously, but.

630
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: We need to get you into rehab.

631
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 5: I know it's okay to like him, it's just not

632
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 5: okay for her. To end up with Laurela I like.

633
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: She does.

634
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can say, by the way, I think

635
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 5: all the haters who don't like you are not true

636
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 5: Gilmore fans because you have Lorelai energy.

637
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Laura that thank you.

638
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: They are Russian Russian bots and they are rival the

639
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: Gilmour podcasts.

640
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Pretty specific for being boughts. But it's okay. I can

641
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: take it. I only cry every single Monday. It's fine.

642
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: It's my job to read it. But thank you. And

643
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: I do think. Look, look, Laurel, I went back to him,

644
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: So maybe I I'm Laura Ali because I get it.

645
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I think you're right

646
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: about getting it out of her system again and again

647
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: and again.

648
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Why did they have to make us watch? That's the thing.

649
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Couldn't they have just like, you know, after the fact,

650
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: and we could figure it out and piece it together

651
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: and then go or oh.

652
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: It's so funny. It's not hard for me to watch them,

653
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: because I hear Lauren saying that, like, oh it's hard

654
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: to watch, and I'm like, isn't they're sort of cute?

655
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: Can't we they give us a chance to turn away?

656
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: They're too similar, like they're they're made of the same stuff.

657
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, that's true.

658
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: It's like too much of the you know, the shtick

659
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 5: and like that balance.

660
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know that's a good take, actually, Lauren,

661
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what Queen Suzanne thinks on that. But

662
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: there there, that's a good take.

663
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: I guess somebody interrupted me. So I didn't hear it.

664
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: Suzanne just in the bathroom throwing up because were talking

665
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: about this. She hears Kristph walk in say goadbye, oh

666
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: mister Susanne. I had to interrupt us with his loved Lauren.

667
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: You rock.

668
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so you guys. It's Monday mornings. It's

669
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: like a highlight when I see that new episode every Monday.

670
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: No, thanks so much.

671
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: Get ready for season seven.

672
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 8: I can't wait.

673
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 5: I can't wait. All right, Well, thank you guys so much.

674
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: Okay, best of the little ones.

675
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: Thank you bye.

676
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Dorothy.

677
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 8: Hello, it's so nice to meet you.

678
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: So nice to have you back where we belong. Nice

679
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: to see you, Dorothy. Where are you calling.

680
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 8: From Malvern, Pennsylvania?

681
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Malvern?

682
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're probably familiar with that area.

683
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: We had family friends from Malvern.

684
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 8: No way, real way way, Oh my goodness.

685
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, My first experience at sleepover Camp, when I

686
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: was like nine years old, was with my good buddy

687
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: from Malvern.

688
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 8: Wow, that is so funny.

689
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: Did you go to Malvern Prep?

690
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 8: I did not. I'm not. I didn't grow up here.

691
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 8: We're raising our kids here. I'm originally from Long Island,

692
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 8: New York.

693
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: One home, Long Island. They so, what do you got

694
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: for us? Dorothy?

695
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 8: So I have two questions for you. When did Amy

696
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 8: and Dan actually know they weren't coming back to be

697
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 8: there to write it?

698
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know. I've been jogging my memory

699
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: and I just don't know. I don't know. I don't

700
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: think that anybody really knew. But I do recall them

701
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: telling us individually that they were moving on and that

702
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: they you know, and the reasons why, and it was

703
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: it was very emotional.

704
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 8: Did they tell you during season six?

705
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I don't think it was during season six,

706
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: but maybe during the hiatus we got a phone call

707
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: or I got a phone call, or we had a

708
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: lunch something like that. It's not It's not very clear

709
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: to me, but I just remember nothing like that happened

710
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: during filming for me anyway, And I wish I just

711
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: had a better memory of how I found out or so.

712
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: You know, these negotiations are protracted, they're they're very long,

713
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: and they can last. It probably lasted the entire hiatus

714
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: right up until you know, they had to reassemble the

715
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: writing team and going on their twenty two scripts because

716
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: you can't let too much time lag before you go

717
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: back into production. You know, you got to you got

718
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: to build up your inventory of scripts.

719
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 8: And that's right, they got a writing way ahead before.

720
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: You way ahead. Yeah, because that's twenty two episodes. That's

721
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: not like now it's easier, it's ten. It's still rough now.

722
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't get ahead of it,

723
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: you get behind schedule, and it's chaos. It's just total chaos.

724
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 8: I can imagine.

725
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but it was a big deal. Yeah, it

726
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: was a big deal.

727
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 8: Did they have a contract for six seasons and then

728
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 8: they needed.

729
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: To do everybody?

730
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 8: Did you all did?

731
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Every that's the that's the standard contract that you signed.

732
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: It has six renewable options I'm sorry, five renewable option years.

733
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: There's either a you either get a six year deal

734
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: or a seven year deal. They obviously had a six

735
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: year deal. I think I had a seven year deal,

736
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: and every all the actors had a seven seven year

737
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: deals and they had to renegotiate on eighth. So but

738
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: it could have been six and we renegotiated on a

739
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: one year deal for a seven.

740
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: And you wouldn't really know what's happening with someone else's deal.

741
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: You're kind of doing your own deal, and you would

742
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: never know that someone else's deal might be going sideways.

743
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 8: So you all don't know what's going on with everybody else.

744
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 8: It's just your own contract. And then.

745
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, your attorney can call somebody else's attorney's negotiating,

746
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: find out where they are and what's going on this

747
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: kind of thing, and compare notes because that can be

748
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: advantageous in both negotiations. But no, no, nobody. I didn't

749
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: know what was going on with Amy and Dance negotiations.

750
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: It was just a shock. I remember just being shocked

751
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: that they didn't get a two year deal, which is

752
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: standard on a hit show. After six seasons, to get

753
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: a two year deal, it's really sort of the standard.

754
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: They felt very well, they just felt like they had

755
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: to move on. They had other stories to tell me.

756
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 8: I wonder did they you know, knowing well, I guess

757
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 8: they didn't know by the end of season six, or

758
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 8: did they know by the end of season six things

759
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 8: weren't going to work out.

760
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't know it.

761
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 8: We're going to continue without them, I think just hanging.

762
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: But how long can you, you know, continue to entertain

763
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: a one year deal offer? That's not a lot of

764
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: faith there from the studio. Yeah, like, look what we

765
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, you guys are making a bundle off this

766
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: show or you know you're now in the in the

767
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: black and and things are good and you've got a

768
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: syndication deal and the DVD money is good, and like,

769
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: what come on, guys? You know the advertisers putting a

770
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: lot of pressure to bring the show back for multiple years.

771
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: You can't give us a two year deal. I mean really,

772
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean you want to risk the quality of the

773
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: show with like, you know, running us out of town,

774
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: and you know you cannot you can't function under a

775
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: one year deal. You just can't do it.

776
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, So they walked, So they.

777
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: Walked, Yeah their credit they walked. Yeah.

778
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 8: Yeah. So the cast you found out probably during hiatus,

779
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 8: how was what was the vibe your all of you

780
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 8: coming back your first day filming for season seven? I mean,

781
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 8: how did you all feel. I can imagine how you felt.

782
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: But well, listen, a it's always good to have a job,

783
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: a steady job in that town. They're hard to get.

784
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, we were a little anxious. The scripts

785
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: were really good, they were really strong. Uh you know,

786
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: we we we just had a lot of faith. I mean,

787
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: you've got us be positive and stay positive to do

788
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: that job anyway, you know, to come into work and

789
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, to give them twelve hours or fourteen hours

790
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: everything you got and then come back next day, do

791
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: same thing, next day, do same thing. You know. They're

792
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: really can't be resistance, you know. It's like you got

793
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: to be all in. Yeah, and you have to stay positive.

794
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, this happened. They're not here anymore.

795
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: We have a new reality. Let's make the best of this.

796
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: And the guy that comes in isn't a stranger to

797
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: you all, which helped.

798
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know, and he'd written some great episodes.

799
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I was going to ask, did you know

800
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 8: who the new writer was?

801
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 10: Oh?

802
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah yeah.

803
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 8: And he's taking Amy and Dan's baby and just kind

804
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 8: of finishing it.

805
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: Off for that Yeah, like he was. They chose him

806
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, with their blessing, it's like he can handle this. Yeah, okay,

807
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, so I'm really eager to see and watch

808
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: these season seven episodes because I'll, you know, I'll be

809
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: very interested to see how how how it comes off.

810
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 8: It's a rollercoaster of ari just as but you know,

811
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 8: it is what it is, and it's the story and

812
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 8: you know, the Gilmore Girls story, and I love it.

813
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 8: It just it is what it is, and right right, hey,

814
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 8: I enjoyed it. There are some episodes I don't like,

815
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 8: and there were some I didn't like in season six,

816
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 8: but watch them. I don't watch them and just move

817
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 8: on to the next one.

818
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Listen, You're always going to get a bunch of laughs,

819
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: even if the story kareems off the road a little bit.

820
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, you're always going to get your twenty laughs

821
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: in there.

822
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 8: You are that there are episodes and I'm like, I

823
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 8: don't want to watch this one, and then I watch

824
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 8: it and I'm like, you know, it's better than I remember,

825
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 8: and it's and exactly, it's a great show.

826
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've watched some stinker episodes, but I laughed all

827
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: the way through. Yeah, and it's like it's a joy

828
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: it's a real joy because they're funny.

829
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 8: They really are.

830
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Those palatines are. They have the best sense of humor.

831
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: They're hysterically funny. Great writers they do.

832
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 8: And you know, I get most of them and a

833
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 8: lot of their your pop culture references, some of the stuff.

834
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, that is so clever.

835
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: They right, right, you come up with some great It's

836
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: not fair. It's just not fair to two brains that

837
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: work like that working together. It's not fair. It's not

838
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: a fair fight, right, it's not.

839
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 8: It's not.

840
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: So it's really no surprise to me that they went

841
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: on and did what they did with with MASL And yeah,

842
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: it's not a.

843
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 8: Surprise, and they are a new one that you're doing now,

844
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 8: So it's you know, they're working on at least we hear.

845
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I remember sending Amy a very long

846
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: email after they left about how much I believe in

847
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: her and what's coming for them and for her and

848
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: the golden statues that are you know, waiting patiently the

849
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: engraver to engrave their names on those statues. And it happened,

850
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: and I knew it would happen. Yeah, they just needed

851
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: to get you know, they needed to tell these other

852
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: stories because it wasn't happening with Gilmore Girls. They weren't

853
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: getting the recognition they deserved. And I'm sure you know

854
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: it was a bittersweet parting, but it was like, I

855
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: think they were excited for the new opportunities because they

856
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: didn't know. It's wide open, right, they didn't know. I mean,

857
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: they did Bunheads and that only lasted what a year

858
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: or two? And then they did another thing.

859
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: They did another thing with my bun Heads, Right, did

860
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: you watch Bunheads?

861
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 8: I did not know.

862
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I'm not gonna lie.

863
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 8: I always come late to the party, so I didn't

864
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 8: watch Gilmore Girls when it was airing. I was raising

865
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 8: little kids at the time and was too exhausted. So

866
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 8: I came, oh, gosh, I don't know, maybe twenty twelve

867
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 8: or so, I started watching all the reruns of them

868
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 8: and just fell in love with the show. And I've

869
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 8: watched it. Oh, I can't tell you how many times

870
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 8: I've watched it.

871
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

872
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 8: But I've seen some Missus masl and man, that is

873
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 8: a good show.

874
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: There is. Well, I'm sort of like, I don't know, Scott.

875
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm excited and nervous about season seven.

876
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: But I'm not nervous.

877
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: Next week it's happening.

878
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: Look if they if they're stinker real, we're going to

879
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: chop them up. But good.

880
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: Dorothy, thank you so much.

881
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 8: Thank you for asking me. I got to show you

882
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 8: a music.

883
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: We love it.

884
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 8: I love you guys. I love your podcast. You're all

885
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 8: so great. Scott, Amy, Danielle, Suzanne.

886
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.

887
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 8: You guys are great. Listen to you every Monday and

888
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 8: watch the episodes that you're talking about, just so I'm

889
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 8: fresh with them and I just love what you're doing.

890
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 8: This is great, and just keep it going and then

891
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 8: you're in the life. Just you know, drag those out.

892
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: We're going to drag it out. We're not going anywhere.

893
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got a couple more years going here.

894
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Thank you.

895
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: In touch.

896
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: Please please please stay in touch.

897
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 8: Thank you. It's a pleasure meeting you all.

898
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Take care. Hi Michelle, Hi, Hi, how are you guys? Good?

899
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: Where are you calling from.

900
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 10: From Edmonton, Alberta, Canada?

901
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, where you were? What Canada is Edmondton, Halifax? Yeah?

902
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I'm.

903
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 10: Close to the Rockies. Actually, oh yeah, I'm about four

904
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 10: hour drive away. From Jasper baths. I don't know if

905
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 10: you're yeah, yeah, it's about zero today.

906
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 8: I guess you're up there.

907
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cold, it's cold.

908
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 10: What can you do? Right?

909
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: So?

910
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: You can play hockey, hiking, I love hockey. You can

911
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: do all kinds of stuff that you.

912
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: Can give us a juicy Gilmore girls question.

913
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, right, you can talk.

914
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 10: I can also confirm that snow has a definite smell

915
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 10: for sure, I smell.

916
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

917
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 10: I do.

918
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 5: So.

919
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

920
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 10: So I came up with my question just kind of

921
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 10: based on the conversation between Lenny and Laureli in the car,

922
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 10: the impromptu session they had. And you know, I was

923
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 10: reading the comments after your your podcast about the episode,

924
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 10: and a lot of people were piling on Luke and Laureli,

925
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 10: and I thought, wait a minute, what's Lenny's role in

926
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 10: all of this? Like they you know, Lenny saidator, yeah,

927
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 10: I mean, well we had Laurel. I say, I could

928
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 10: lose him if I pushed too hard, and then Lenny said, well,

929
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 10: it doesn't look like you have him right now, and

930
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 10: you know, then she goes, things don't always work out

931
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 10: the way we want them to. So I don't know,

932
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 10: I have a definite opinion on what you know, her

933
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 10: role was in all of this, but he felt.

934
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: Kind of an overstep of a therapist.

935
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know, I thought she was a little

936
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 10: bit cavalier in it, you know, giving out her advice

937
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 10: and stuff. But so and you know, if you have

938
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 10: a PhD behind your name, there's a level of gravitas

939
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 10: that comes with like a little social responsibility, I guess,

940
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 10: is what I was thinking.

941
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's a good question, Scott, what do you

942
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: think of that? Because pacts Luke Lenny really impacts Luke.

943
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: I agree with Michelle. I think there's a lawsuit there.

944
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, a law suit. Well, I think for sure it

945
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 10: changed the trajectory for Laura. And the second part of

946
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 10: my question was if that whole thing hadn't happened, how

947
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 10: how would you have imagined her dealing with things like

948
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 10: when she had just gone home and eating a box

949
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 10: of pop tarts or you.

950
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Know, let's look at how Laurlai handles things. Now, let's

951
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: look back on the historical record. How does Laurela I

952
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: handle things? How does she handle stress?

953
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 10: She's impulsive?

954
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: Let's say she's a little bit impulsive, right, Yeah, so

955
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, and that and she stays true to character.

956
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: And I the only one that would have liked to

957
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 2: see Luke and you know, I'm team.

958
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: Luke, but just to have teams.

959
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: Almost like I think I talked about this, I can't

960
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: remember if it's like if I talked about it on

961
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: the air or off.

962
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: The air A Rory or who are your team Rory?

963
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: Me or Michelle no Amy? Are your team Rory? There is?

964
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: Are there teams with Rory.

965
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: No I'm pretty much always all about Laurlai.

966
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: Right, but are you on her team? Because there's rivals? Right?

967
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: Here's my question for you, all of you, all of you, Okay,

968
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: I want of love for Luke, who is always the

969
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: voice of reason to me, to have said kind of

970
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: hugged her, right or you know, because I don't want

971
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: to say grabbed her because that seems like wrong, but

972
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: sort of grabbed her and said, let's take a deep breath.

973
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: Let's just take a deep breath, like I love you.

974
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: You know that we are going to figure this out

975
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: and talk to me.

976
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no drama, of course, I'm just but I'm

977
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: just how are you going to piss off the fans

978
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: if you do that? Which is you know, I'm just

979
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: being glib, but it's right. I mean, like all intentional, what.

980
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: Would you have liked to have seen?

981
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 10: Well, I'm kind of on board with you, but to

982
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 10: take it a step further, I would have preferred if

983
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 10: she had at least waited till the diner was closed.

984
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 10: Knowing how private Luke is like, that was humiliating for him.

985
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 10: I felt really bad for him. Actually, you know, the

986
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 10: public dressing down and stuff like that, they for sure

987
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 10: had to talk. I just would have liked to have

988
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 10: seen her, you know, wait till there was no customers

989
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 10: around and done it privately and screened at each other,

990
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 10: scream at each other in the diner when he's not

991
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 10: you know, in the middle of something or whatever.

992
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: And my flag, which I did throw. I did not

993
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: like the line. I did not like her saying she

994
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: had a staff meeting when she didn't. I did not

995
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: like her making you know, miss Patty cover for her.

996
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: I thought that was weird, and I actually don't. That

997
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: didn't track with the character for me. I don't really

998
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: see Laura like doing that. Yeah, but she did it.

999
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: But so well, you guys, you say how you feel.

1000
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I feel like if that conversation,

1001
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 3: so I don't know that the therapist was necessarily overstepping.

1002
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: She did make the point to laurel I that Laurelai

1003
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: is the only one that can keep waiting, like Lorela

1004
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: needs to make a decision as to what she's gonna

1005
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: do and then live with the consequences either way. So

1006
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: I feel like if that conversation hadn't happened, she may

1007
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: not have gone straight to Luke that night and and

1008
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: given him that ultimatum, But I think it still would

1009
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 3: have boiled over at some point somehow, Like she already

1010
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: felt crappy before she had that conversation with Lenny, So

1011
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: she already, like Amy was saying, she was already avoiding

1012
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: Luke like it was gonna come to a head at

1013
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: some point.

1014
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true. I can see your point for sure.

1015
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 10: I just kind of I just kind of think Lenny

1016
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 10: kind of steered her, like Laura, I was just looking

1017
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 10: for somebody tell me what to do because I'm freaking out,

1018
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 10: you know, right, Because.

1019
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: She could have had, as ye say, Lenny was like

1020
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: a different type of therapist that said take a deep breath,

1021
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: like you got you've got nothing but time like this

1022
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: is who you love, he loves you. You have let's

1023
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: hope fifty years together. It's okay if it takes six

1024
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: more months. Like that was sort of my thing is

1025
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: she was so panicky when I'm like, I get that

1026
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: she wants to have another kid, but I don't think

1027
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: the like caluck is ticking quite so bad, Like what's

1028
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: the rush?

1029
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, and I just think, you know, she

1030
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 10: probably worked herself up even more on the drive home

1031
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 10: from from Hartford to stars Hollow.

1032
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: Right hotally, Oh my god.

1033
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 10: You know Hurricane Laurela. I blew in And now it's

1034
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 10: like Luke didn't stand a chance.

1035
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, you are you little Lenny, now that I

1036
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: think about it.

1037
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: No, I mean I'm not irrational. No, I'm not paved

1038
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: at her. I just thought, I mean I just couldn't.

1039
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to get any sleep then since

1040
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: I you know, I just I don't know, Lenny. Yeah,

1041
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it. I thought it was

1042
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of an overreach. But I just think

1043
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: with this kind of.

1044
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 11: It's a TV series, it's a serial, it's a it's

1045
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 11: you know, you have to give an audience these you know,

1046
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 11: these kind of story beats to.

1047
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: Keep them engaged. You know, it's difficult writing twenty two

1048
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: episodes and keeping people hooked. You know, it's really hard.

1049
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: So I think you you, maybe in these situations, are

1050
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: on the side of excess. I think they there are

1051
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: a lot of nuance. There's a lot of nuance and

1052
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: a lot of subtlety and everything that's going on in

1053
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: the show. But in the big story beats, I think

1054
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: you can afford to be a little clumsy because people

1055
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: really definitively know that it happened, and they engage and

1056
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: they talk about it, and they don't like it, and

1057
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: some defend it, and it's all very It's good for

1058
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: the show if people are engaged in talking about it,

1059
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: even if they're ticked off. And I don't think it's

1060
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: so far afield that it just like kind of knocks

1061
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: people out of the show. Oh that's so absurd. I'm

1062
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: not going to watch it again. No, it's just a

1063
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: it's just a These are.

1064
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: It's dramatic moves, but they all tract.

1065
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 10: For me, right, And you know, I did really enjoy

1066
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 10: that scene in the car. I thought that was, you know,

1067
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 10: kind of a nice quiet come down moment before it

1068
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 10: escalated again, like, and.

1069
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: How did you feel about the ending scene? Am I

1070
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: still on an island? I was the only one who

1071
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: wasn't that mad about it.

1072
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 10: I was thinking, you know, Christopher was a little cocky,

1073
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 10: and don't get too excited about this. You're to be

1074
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 10: there forever without giving away anything. But yeah, so yeah,

1075
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 10: it was really you know, it was seeing her the

1076
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 10: look on her face was like, oh god.

1077
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 5: So yeah.

1078
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: Suzanne had a good call out on that that it's

1079
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: very similar the beginning and the end of the episode,

1080
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: so for sure.

1081
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 10: Yeah. If I can just add one more thing that

1082
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 10: was kind of sad? Did you guys find it sad

1083
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 10: that the one and only time that lore likes that

1084
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 10: I love you to Luke was when she was screaming

1085
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 10: at him in the Hired show. And I just thought, oh, like,

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Speaker 10: he's done so much for her, you know, saved her

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01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 10: dog's life and given her money and done you know everything.

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Speaker 1: She's okay, So this begs a question, do you guys

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Speaker 1: think that she's terribly sentimental?

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Speaker 2: M or I think she protects herself so much.

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Speaker 1: It's the humor. It's the humor is her her armor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which which we had another person on the show

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: that kind of called out, and it's making me think

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01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: that Christopher and Laura l I both do that sort

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01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: of sticky you know, which I always like because I

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01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: think their banter is so fun. It's true they are

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: kind of both doing that where the reason Luke is

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01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: so great with her is he is steady to her,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 10: You know, oh yeah for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and growing up the way she did, she probably Yeah,

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01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 10: she wasn't a sentimental type person, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which I won't give anything away, but there are

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01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: some revelations in season seven where she starts to sort

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01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: of realize some of these things. Yeah, there are some

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01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: sort of aha moments for Morlai coming up.

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Speaker 3: And the household that she grew up and was not

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Speaker 3: particularly demonstrative, like I don't think that Emily and Richard

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01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: were ever saying I love you excessively.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 3: You know, she just didn't grow up in a people

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Speaker 3: for expressing their affection for each other.

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Speaker 10: That's true. Even with Rory, she wasn't overly openly affectionate

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01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 10: or anything.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, she's not sort of smushy mushy.

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Speaker 10: No, she's not one of those people like well Amy,

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Speaker 10: I don't know I'm still not a Christopher family as

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Speaker 10: you are, but you know, I appreciate what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm trying because I feel like he's so significant

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01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: and I don't find him to be all bad. He's

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Speaker 2: not great.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, Michelle, We're going to do an intervention with

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Speaker 1: any Okay, don't tell her. We're going to surprise her

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Speaker 1: one day. We're all going to end up in one

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Speaker 1: of her mansions or one of hers and we're going

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01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: to get her in to rehab.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're going to de Christopher, de Christopher.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna.

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Speaker 10: Have you seen some of the nicknames he has among

1131
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 10: the fans, God.

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Speaker 2: Give us a couple.

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Speaker 3: I actually probably.

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Speaker 10: Have probably the one of the most predominant one and

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Speaker 10: I have. I've gotten so used to typing this out.

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Speaker 10: Is exta her?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that a couple I saw that. It's actually really funny.

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Speaker 10: Uh sometimes you refer to him as the C word.

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 10: We don't even actually say his name.

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Speaker 2: God, people hate him.

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01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 10: I know, it's so funny. You know, I can kind

1142
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 10: of see he is. He's cute. I'll give him out

1143
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 10: my he's.

1144
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: Charming, and they have this connection and like sometimes he

1145
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: redeems himself, like you know, he's always there for her.

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, is ish everybody ish?

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Speaker 10: I mean, how boring would it be if nobody liked

1148
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 10: Christopher right, like among you guys, Like somebody has got

1149
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 10: to like the guys.

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Speaker 2: Right he's a pure villain, like you know, he's not

1151
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: a villain, he's just sort of hopeless. Michelle, you rock.

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Speaker 2: Please stay in touch with us.

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01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me.

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 11: Gosh, thank you, thank you.

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01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 10: Take care of.

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01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: Thank yous are coming.

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: Oh yes, we have the coolest people.

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: That they're good. And that's going to wrap part one

1159
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: of the call ins. The best fans on the planet

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: calling in. We get to talk to them, we get

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01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: to experience them, we get to enjoy them. Uh and

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Speaker 1: we will be back momentarily for part two.

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Speaker 9: Stacy Everybody's alf again.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast

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Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmour at iHeartRadio dot com.