1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We've been talking about 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: the decision to push the sentencing date on Trump. How 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: long that could go on. That is the latest legal news. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: But Buck is back yesterday. I told you that I 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: maintain my position that that Biden will not be the nominee. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Buck remains on Buck Island. Someone sent me a note 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: by the way that I screenshotted Buck. I thought you 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: would appreciate this. There is, in fact a Buck Island. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: One of our listeners sent me this and I screenshot 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: it because I thought it was great. Let me see 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: if I can find it. Loved your banter about this 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: is from Bob. Loved your Thank you, Bob, loved your 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: banner about buck Island. Again, I'm saying buck island because 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: that's totally different movie. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: If I change one. 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Word on Friday, I have a beach home on Buck 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Island located in Corolla, North Carolina. If I think I'm 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: pronouncing that right, great beach town on the outer ps. 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: Biden will never resign. I've had to handle aging parents. 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Hardest thing to do was to get them to give 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: up their car and agree to go to assisted living. 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: So buck the latest. So I do love this, and 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: I think you'll appreciate this. Yesterday we ran through the 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: excuses that have been trotted out for Biden's performance in 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: the debate, Among them, the makeup artists did not do 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: a good enough job, the advisors over prepared him, the 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: debate was too late, CNN was rigged against him. All 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: of those trotted out. I did love this. I saw 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: this last night. They got on with the top campaign 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: surrogates and officials and they said, according to CNN, this 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: was Jen O'Malley Dixon. I tweeted this out last night. 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I saw you guys. We were tweeting out this story 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 1: this morning. Here's what she said. He's probably in better 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: health than most of us. That is the argument that 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: they are trying to make right now now, and I 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: post it on Twitter. Unless everyone else on this call 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: is dead, that is not true. I appreciate that there 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: are lots of arguments that can be made claiming that 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is in better health than most of the 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: people working. 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: On the Biden campaign. 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Either their campaign is in a cemetery, and we know 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Democrats are quite good at mobilizing cemetaries historically. But either 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: everyone is dead on this campaign or Jen O'Malley Dixon 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: is just lying in a ridiculous fashion to say that 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: his health is better than most of the people on 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: the campaign. 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: They are going to have this moment, this sort of 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: spasm of outrage and unintentional honesty, and it will pass, 51 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: and they will rally, they will circle the wagons, they 52 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: will get ready for whatever they have to do in 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: order to try to push Biden Ford. I want to 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: be very clear because I'm sure that they're my belief 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: all along, and my prediction along has been Biden or Kamala, 56 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: Biden or Kamala. I still think it is likely to 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: be Biden, but in my mind, I'm one hundred percent 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: sure it is Biden or Kamala. So I think Biden 59 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: will be the guy. Buck Island is a place of truth, 60 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: justice and accuracy, and many of you are welcome. By 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: the way, there's plenty of plenty of land. 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: This is where we agree. There is lots of room 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: on Buck Island right now. There have been a lot 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: of that. There have been a lot of people finding rafts, 65 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: finding floating floating pineapples to hang on to I think. 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: You were like Buck, I was with you all along. 67 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, vip Emailer, I think you were with 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: Clay about three months ago. But that's all right, that's 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: all right. You want to you scramble on the Buck Island. 70 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: You are welcome. He years. The biggest challenge for the 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: Democrats right now as I see it, First of all, 72 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: there's legitimate we believe that the Democrat Party operates. I 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: think you usually think this about your opponents, because I 74 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: hear Democrats say this about Republicans. They're so ruthlessly efficient 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: and they always have a plan. And as a Republican 76 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: you sit there, you're like, have you been awake the 77 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: last twenty years? Like we make horrible mistakes all over 78 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: the place as a party, because these are just people 79 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: running these things, and people are flawed and make dumb decisions. Okay. 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: I think that the Democrats did lull themselves into a 81 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 2: false sense of security because of all the legal stuff 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: against Trump. You have to think of all this as 83 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: they thought they had, you know, Big Bertha to deploy. 84 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: For those of you who are World War One history buffs, right, 85 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: they thought they had the Mega canon to end all canons. 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: Which was this law fair and they were going to 87 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: pummel the enemy with it and all the I think, actually, 88 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: did Big Birth even see them usage, I don't think, 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: so what are you looking? 90 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: So they didn't. 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to give you historical credit here. 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: They stole the Big Bertha driver name Callaway did. 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: From the cannon. 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, because when I hear as a bad golfer, 95 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: when I hear big Bertha, I think about, you know, 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: the big driver. 97 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: That they I didn't realize at the golf club. I 98 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: think of the the giant howitzer from World War One. 99 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that they have stolen. I was like, oh, 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: big Berth. I mean, I've heard that phrase for a 101 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: long time, but I didn't even realize where it originated from. 102 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: But I think of the driver, which was I think 103 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: a Calaway driver, which they made probably a billion dollars 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: selling over the years, so I believe. So I this 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: came up when I was reading my Fahrenbach book on 106 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: the Indian Wars. The Mountain howitzer was a very powerful 107 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: weapon used in the mid nineteenth century against the you know, tribes, 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, Howitzer. This must be named for somebody. 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: It actually is a word that comes from I believe 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: the Czech and the Germans started to use it, taking 111 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: it from the check in the early nineteenth century. And 112 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: then we just took the word howitzer from them because like, 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: you never even think about this, like there was no 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: big general howitzer. You usually we have military things, you know, Yeah, 115 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: Nimitz class carrier, it's a you know, Abram's tank or 116 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: and we usually name these after people. But yes, the 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Big Bertha was what they called a massive siege howitzer 118 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: built by a crop in Germany. So where was I before? 119 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Oh, so they thought they had Big Bertha, and they 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: big Bertha was the lawfair right, and they figured, Okay, 121 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: that's gonna mean that we can just push Biden forward 122 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: on the basement campaign again more or less Rudolph a prompter. 123 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Everything has to be reevaluated in the context of the 124 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: lawfair stuff not only has failed but has backfired. Right, 125 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: That's I think they never they never thought even if 126 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: it didn't work that well, which they must have considered 127 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: as a possibility, they never considered that it would make 128 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Trump more popular to be a convicted felon. And so 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: this is why when people say, oh, they offered him 130 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: up in this debate to knock him down. No, they 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: were desperate. That's why they put him forward in the 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: debate because none of the stuff that they've been thinking 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: is working. This is basically my way of saying, Clay, 134 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: we shouldn't overestimate the strategy of the other side. I 135 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: think they have walked into bear trap after bear trap, 136 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: and they just hit themselves in the face with a rake. 137 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: I mean, they're having problems even within that context. And 138 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I do believe that we agree that the lawfair has 139 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: blown up in their face and it potentially I hate 140 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: to even have to use a soccer analogy. After the 141 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: US men's soccer team choked as they always do in 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: any game that it feels like matters again last night 143 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: against against Uruguay or anybody who actually watched, they don't 144 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: know what percentage of you did. But even for the 145 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: own goal standard, this would be the most devastating own goal, 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: the most devastating self inflicted error in any of our lives, 147 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: if you're forty five or fifty or younger, basically all 148 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: the way back to Watergate with what Mixon did, this 149 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: would be the most destructive own goal ever. Now I 150 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: still think buck even within that construct, they and I 151 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: don't mean just Democrats at large, who had sort of 152 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: ulled themselves into sleep believing that Bien they were buying 153 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: the garbageot always sharp as attack behind closed doors. I 154 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: do think people believed it. 155 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: We didn't and our audience didn't, and we've been talking 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: about it for a long time because it was self evident, 157 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: but they pretended that it wasn't. I think the Biden 158 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: team was in disbelief over how bad. 159 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: He was on June twenty seventh, and so that was 160 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 2: the worst than I thought he would be, and I 161 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: worse than I thought that because usually Biden, and I 162 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: will admit this, usually Biden has been able to do 163 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: the like, well, folks, you're here, I am not a joke, 164 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, kind of yellsy greens his fake teeth and 165 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: does the whole thing. And it's enough. You know that 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: the Biden show was kind of enough that even though 167 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: he looks frail and decrepit and everything, he can get 168 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: away with it. But he was. Look it was the 169 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: worst anybody has has really seen him, certainly for any 170 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: length of time. And the real, you know, the real kicker. 171 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: I think the really difficult thing is that video that's 172 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: been going around online of Biden in the twenty twenty 173 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: debates versus today. Yes, side by side, he looked like 174 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: an old guy in twenty twenty, but he did not 175 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: look like a guy who had dementia. I hate you know, 176 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: he'd looked too old maybe visually, but the verbal acuity 177 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: was there, the thought prize. He was not slowed down. 178 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: And that's changed now. I mean, now you have to 179 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: openly lie. Now you have to tell you like I 180 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: can't see with my eyes, and I don't know if 181 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: you've asked. 182 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: I've been asking doctors around me, Hey, tell me what 183 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: you see. I'm talking about people who deal in treating 184 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: dementia and everything else. Everyone that I am talking to 185 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: and asking about this private who has watched him says 186 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: that the evidence is there of dementia, and he appears 187 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to be at the accelerating era of dementia. And for 188 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: those of you who've had to go through with an 189 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: elderly parent or grandparent and you've seen someone start to 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: kind of have signs that things are a little bit awry, 191 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: but they can bounce back and they can look better 192 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: at times. He's at the point now buck it appears 193 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: where it accelerates and over the next six months to 194 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: a year, the idea of him being in office and 195 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: him being in office now is scary. The idea of 196 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: him being in office in twenty eight is so beyond 197 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: the pale of what any doctor who looks at him 198 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: and starts to analyze his behavior and his symptoms would 199 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: ever be able to forecast. 200 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember I saw this with my maternal grandfather, 201 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: who's a great man World War Two veteran and great humanitarian, 202 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: built schools front of which kids anyway did amazing stuff. 203 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: But just because of age, he got into his eighties 204 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: and over the course of about five years, it went 205 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: from he was sort of the patriarch of the family 206 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: on that side, who sat at the head of the 207 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: table and you. 208 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, was like, yeah, Thanksgiving, he's cutting 209 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: the turkey and he's leading, like he was the. 210 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: Family statesman of the family, to towards the last five 211 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: years of his life, it was in a wheelchair, blanket 212 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: on the knees, checking on him, bring you know, taking 213 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: real full time care of him. You know, my family, 214 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: my aunts, they were taking full time care of him. 215 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: The difference there was like five to seven years, I'd say, 216 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: from patriarch, you know, at the head of the table 217 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: telling stories, to having to bring him his food and 218 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 2: check on him and every you know, he had to 219 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: go through dialysis. He had a lot of flat problems 220 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: toward the end. And I just remember, you know, this 221 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: is a real change that happens, and it can happen rapidly, 222 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: and it looks like Biden is in that phase of 223 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: his life where that change is undergoing, is has been 224 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: underway the last few years. 225 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: People will why, but they'll only lie to the point 226 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: where the lies don't start to reflect awfully upon them. 227 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: I think in the Democrat Party now, and we'll play 228 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: you a cut I thought was emblematic of this from 229 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: James Carville. What they did was a step too far 230 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: for most Democrats. Because it's one thing to say Biden's 231 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: better than Trump, like his apparatus is fine, which is 232 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: it's another thing to ask everyone to pretend that what 233 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: they saw didn't happen and to dis disallow their own 234 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: eyes to speak. And I think we've moved to the 235 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: embarrassment now. It's embarrassing to defend Biden. I think that's 236 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: what I want to give you. I think the key 237 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: argument here, and I'm gonna keep people on the edge 238 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: of their seats. The key argument has been made by 239 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: a former Obama administration official, echoing the sentiments that we 240 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: have shared about how Democrats view their party on this show. 241 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: What am I talking about? 242 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: How are they going to turn this around? For Biden? 243 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: I will present that clay in a moment. That's what 244 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: you call a tea's in the business. And I love 245 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: one of our listeners who always emails, just don't say 246 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: it's geese. You're killing the tas. Think about it. Every 247 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: time you do that. 248 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: By the way, you are giving away you're destroying the No, 249 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: it's pretty evident. 250 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: It's just I know when you send us like one 251 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: really good email, either that calls us out about something 252 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: that's true and funny or is just generally funny, like 253 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: we do remember it for a long time, so very 254 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: much in our heads one part of your house that does. 255 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: The other thing that was great yesterday was people were 256 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: emailing saying, don't give the Democrats ideas. Do you really 257 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: think that I can think up anything? I'm not as 258 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: diabolical as they are. Anything that I can think of 259 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: they've thought of. Trust me, it reminds me of when 260 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: I was a kid. Dad used to say, Hey, whatever 261 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: you're thinking of doing, I either did it or thought 262 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: about doing it too. That's the good thing about parenting. 263 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Whatever you can get into, for the most part, your 264 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: parents have thought about it too. 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What can the Democrats do 288 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: to turn things around? Given that we all know that 289 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: Biden is walking around like on a version of mister 290 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: McGoo for those you remember the old cartoon. Uh, you 291 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: think like he'd like go up to a you know, 292 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: he'd go up to a water tower and think it 293 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: was an ostrich. I mean, you know, mister McGoo was 294 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: having some problems. Biden is in a category now where 295 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: people can't trust his judgment, that can't trust his ability 296 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: to think through things or even stay awake. What do 297 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: you do? Well, this has been my argument all along, Clay, 298 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: and this is how I think Democrats just try to 299 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: rally their side and get through this with Biden still 300 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: at the top of the ticket. You make the argument 301 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: that you're not voting for a person, you are voting 302 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: for a team, a system, if you will, a machine 303 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: that will operate smoothly for the progressive, authoritarian, collectivist, democrat agenda, 304 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: irrespective of who is technically signing the bills and grinning 305 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: on camera. Here is former Obama administration DHS chief Jay 306 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: Johnson saying just that. 307 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: Age presidency is more than just one man one woman. 308 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 5: It's an administration. I would take Joe Biden his worst 309 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: day at age eighty six, so long as he has 310 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 5: people around him like like Avril Haynes, Samantha Power, Gina 311 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: Ramundo supporting him over Donald Trump any day, with the 312 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 5: crowd that was behind him on January sixth, twenty twenty one. 313 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: Now, Clay, I think this is going to be what 314 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: eventually is the overwhelming narrative from the media because you 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: can say what you will. This is at least honest 316 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: and it's effectively what I've been saying all along is, 317 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: don't worry about who the CEO of Coca Cola is. 318 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: You buy Coca Cola stock, Let's say, as an example, 319 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: because it's Coca Cola because of the company, because of 320 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: the entity, not because of the person at the top 321 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: making the decisions, because there's a lot of decisions being made. 322 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: What do you think. 323 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: I think it's the most honest argument, and I think 324 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: it's likely one that they'll end up with, which is, basically, 325 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: our team is better than their team. Yes, you aren't 326 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: voting for the quarterback, you aren't voting for the CEO. 327 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: You're voting for the collective talent of our team over 328 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: the collective talent of their team. Now, I think that 329 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: rallies the base. I don't think that necessarily has a 330 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: great appeal for independent voters, and I think that's where 331 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: the challenge lies, because most independent voters or non traditional 332 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: voters are making a decision based on the top of 333 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: the ticket. So I wonder how that plays. But it's 334 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: definitely I think the argument for the base to get 335 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: back in line. 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One thing here, Buck, 355 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: that I do think is significant, and we'll see whether 356 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: you're right, and eventually everybody else comes back into the Hey, 357 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: you're voting for the team right now. There are a 358 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: lot of people willing to now go public and take 359 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: shots at Joe Biden. Last night, Bernstein, Carl Bernstein of 360 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: Woodward and Bernstein Fame, went on CNN and said that 361 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: there had been fifteen or twenty different significant Biden freezing 362 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: moments that everyone had seen, including one back in June 363 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, in which case Biden basically froze 364 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: and it was like rigor mortis had set in. Now, 365 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: one thing I'll say, and I want to play a 366 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: James Carvel cut that we have for you on this 367 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: in a moment, But Buck. 368 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: That's very strong by the rigor mortis is like what 369 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: happens the stiffening of your body when you're dead. So 370 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: that's a correct That's. 371 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: The phrase specifically that Bernstein used on Anderson Cooper Show 372 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: last night on CNN. So that's not me characterizing what 373 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: he said. He used the phrase rigor mortis setting in 374 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: and panic. What I would say is, imagine what doctor 375 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: Jill Biden has actually seen. 376 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: She's on the cover of Vogue. 377 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: I think that she is the biggest villain here of 378 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: anybody in the Democrat Party. 379 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if we can't agree or disagree with that, 380 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: that's a bold statement. I got to think on that one. 381 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: But if we can't trust Democrats to read the Supreme 382 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: Court decision, I think that referring to his lady, she 383 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: knows he is. If that has happened, everyone's what she's seen, 384 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: I know, but everyone's calling her lady Macbeth. And I'm 385 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: just saying I don't think Democrats really catch that reference 386 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: very much anymore. I think a lot of we'll talk 387 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: of this like, oh, lady Macbeth. You know, she must 388 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: have been royalty, she must have been great and probably 389 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: friends with Fergie. So because that's everyone's calling her Lady 390 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: Macbeth these days, that's what I'm seeing all over the internet, 391 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: Joe Biden or they'll say like she's, you know, resputant 392 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: or something. Look, Clay, this is my fundamental position on 393 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: this has not changed. It does not matter what comes 394 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: out about this from behind closed doors, because these are 395 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: all political calculations that aren't rooted in the reality of 396 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: Joe Biden leading and making decisions. It's just about the 397 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: perception and dragging him across the finish line. By the way, 398 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: I haven't said this in a while. I think Biden 399 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: will be the nominee. Still. I don't think he lasts 400 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: more than six months into his presidency before Kamala Harris 401 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: takes over and then his legacy becomes he bequeathed. You know, 402 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: he left for the first black female president three weeks 403 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: see here for a moment, because I do think this 404 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: factor's in and you're right. If he wins, there's no 405 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: way he's served no chance. He's finishing four Nobody believes that. 406 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: Agreed, And if he passed the baton da Kamala Harris, 407 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: You're right, his legacy would be amazing. He's the trojan horse. 408 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: But keep going, what's his legacy? If he loses and 409 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: loses the Senate and loses the House, it will be 410 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: it will be that Joe Biden lost. 411 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Who cares? Who's next? Let's focus on the future. Donald 412 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Trump passed, or rather Donald Trump can't be president for more 413 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: than four years. What's the legacy? This is the other 414 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: thing he keeps saying to everybody who really wants to 415 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: take over this ticket against Trump right now, you will 416 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: get steamroll. The Democrats know this. Gretchen Witmer. A lot 417 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: of people can't even spell her name. Who they want 418 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: to go out and vote for her? They haven't heard 419 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: her name, they don't know who she is. Name recognition 420 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: and a national election we are talking about independent, low 421 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: propensity voters, et cetera, is absolutely essential. They do not 422 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: have a better option to win. Even though Joe Biden 423 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: is suffering from dementia and is too old. They don't. 424 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: So the question I have here on legacy is not 425 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: necessarily larger legacy. What does Biden think his legacy will be? 426 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: And what does doctor Jill Biden think that his legacy 427 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: is going to be. If he goes out and gets 428 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: smoked and then he has dementia and he dies in 429 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: three years in an old folks home, people are going 430 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: to say, I'm telling you what's coming, that he is 431 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: the worst president we've ever had. When you are old, 432 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: eventually I hope to get there, you start worrying way 433 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: more about your legacy. I don't know about you, Buck. 434 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: I think zero about my legacy outside of trying to 435 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: raise good kids. I'm not like, hey, if I died tomorrow, 436 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: people would say this or that. I think that does 437 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: matter on some level to this extent that Biden has 438 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: a functional brain still to not want to go out 439 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: getting his ass kicked as his final public appearance and 440 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: what used to be and then also the election. 441 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: Used to do these drills in the CIA war gaming 442 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: drills right when we were doing the classroom training, which 443 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: was like a year long. Basically, if you're sitting around 444 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: and getting into all these different national security scenarios. Not 445 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: a year long, it was less than that, but anyway, 446 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: it was a long time. And one of the things 447 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: we would do is we would go through these mirror 448 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: imaging exercises, and the basic lesson was, don't think that 449 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: somebody else will act under the same circumstances the way 450 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: that you will understand who they are, because then you'll 451 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: know how they will act under the circumstances that you 452 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: are trying to analyze. Right, Understand the nature of your opposition, 453 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: not what you would do if you were the opposition. 454 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: And when you look at someone like Joe Biden, Clay, 455 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: this guy has never even I think Joe Biden thinks 456 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: that he doesn't have six months left on this earth 457 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: if he's not an office, meaning I think that his 458 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: purpose for getting up in the morning and all the 459 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: rest of it evaporates. And that's why with something you 460 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: see this, it's not calling out the boomers on this one, 461 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: but this is true in that generation, a lot of 462 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: them don't want to give it up, want to keep going. 463 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: We see this in media where there are people who 464 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: clearly have lost many a step and they are still 465 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: desperate to get back on camera, back behind the microphone 466 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: when they don't have it anymore, but they don't care. 467 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: There's still a lot of that that goes on because 468 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 2: people start to consider their purpose, what their job is, 469 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: or their role. I should say, it's more than a job, 470 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: it's a role. And for Joe Biden, there is nothing 471 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: other than this. So that's why. And people that say, 472 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: I look, I disagree with those who say Joe Biden's 473 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: not making the decisions. There's some cabal. Joe Biden's the president. 474 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: He actually is making the decisions. There's nobody other than 475 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: Jill Biden who can get in his ear. It's amazing 476 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden apparently one of his senior advisors. Now I 477 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: thought he had no idea what Hunter was up to. 478 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: People have been putting that out as well. 479 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I will say that argument you make there is actually, 480 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't think, a bad one, and it's been one 481 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: that they argue in sports all the time. There are 482 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: old coaches who will stay in the job and then 483 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: it's like as soon as they give up the head 484 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: coaching job, they're done. And I think some of them 485 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: are aware that without that purpose in structure around them, 486 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: that they will not last very long. I don't so 487 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: to me, Joe Biden, it's I you know, for him, 488 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a binary. It's he either stays in this 489 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: and sees where it goes, or he basically gives up 490 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: and is just counting the days until he's no longer 491 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: with us. I mean, I don't think that he views 492 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: himself as having purpose beyond it. I think the numbers 493 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: back up Joe Biden staying in in his mind no 494 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: matter what, and I certainly do. I have not seen 495 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: a single how is this possible? 496 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: Everyone? We haven't seen a single poll, not one that 497 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: shows any of the Democrats in contention doing better against 498 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: Trump than Joe Biden is. Let me ask you this. 499 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: Have you seen Michelle Obama against Trump yet? 500 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: Is there even a poll on it? 501 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: No? 502 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 2: So I'm saying they haven't. Really. 503 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I think now there's a CNN poll we'll talk about 504 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: here in a moment. I think they're saving. There's going 505 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: to be a Michelle Obama versus Trump poll that I 506 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: think they're saving to try to because you're right, it's 507 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: like Biden again. I mean, sorry, it's like Trump against 508 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: may Or Pete. It's Trump against Kamala. Although the new 509 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: CNN poll does show Kamala doing it better than Biden. 510 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: And let me let me put this. If you were 511 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: on a put this down in simple terms, right, if 512 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: you're on a on a used car lot, okay, pre owned, 513 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: I believe the preferred nomenclature a pre owned car lot. 514 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: And I I well, my first car was a wood 515 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: paneled Roadmaster station Wagon that I think we ended up 516 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: selling for one thousand dollars. So that was my first car. 517 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: My second car was was a pre owned, a pre 518 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: owned Audi that had you know, some bunch of miles 519 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: on it. But I liked it, so I drove around anyway. 520 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: My point here is, if someone's been telling you the 521 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: whole time you're on the lot, this is the car 522 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: for you. I see you in this I'm telling you, 523 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: this is the one. It's perfect for you, this is 524 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: the only one that you want, this is the only car. 525 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: And they even get close to a sale and then 526 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden they go, you know what, forget 527 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: this car over, here is the car for you. I 528 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: think that most people react badly to that as a 529 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: sales pitch, because you've been telling me the whole time 530 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: that this is perfect. Yeah, and now you're gonna walk 531 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: me over here and say that is perfect to do 532 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: what people are talking about now, which would be not 533 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: only to skip over Biden, to skip over Biden and 534 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: to elevate I'm sorry, elevate someone over Kamala. Okay, push 535 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Biden aside and push Kamala aside would be the Democrat 536 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: equivalent of all of a sudden saying you know, you 537 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: don't want a Super Wu you want an RV. It's like, wait, 538 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: what I thought I was in the super Woo buying 539 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: game here, now I'm buying an art like it's just 540 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: too much, too much change at this stage to be effective. 541 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think that's an interesting argument, except 542 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: the only thing I would say is you've already decided 543 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: what type of car you've got, and now they suddenly 544 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: have a car on the lot. In other words, like 545 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: you're a Chevy guy or you're a Ford guy and 546 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: they've got a brand new car and you suddenly found 547 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: out you can drive it instead of the car that's 548 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: not as nice, that's older. But let me play this. 549 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: I do want to play this because what is undoubtedly 550 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: true and I think we would agree on this is 551 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: the Overton window for what you're allowed to say on 552 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: CNN and MSNBC changed substantially on Thursday. Listen to what 553 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: James Carvel just said yesterday buck about get rid of 554 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Biden on Jake Tapper's show. This would have never happened 555 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: prior to Thursday's debate. Listen, what do you think the 556 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: Democrats should do something different? 557 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: All right? I don't know. 558 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 6: It'll be messy. It'll be a mess and you know 559 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 6: that's what change is. But if the Democratic Party is 560 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 6: so committed to the status quo, and so committed to 561 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 6: sticking with something that three quarters of the country doesn't want, 562 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 6: then we have to say why do we exist? 563 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: What are we here for? 564 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: If we can't bring something that people want? I have 565 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 6: to doubt our rationale for being here. I really do. 566 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: Interesting. You would have never heard that before Thursday. 567 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Move on, or it's an existential threat to the Democrat 568 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: Party itself. Just what you're allowed to say has changed substantially. 569 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, James Carville does not have much sway in the 570 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: decision making realm of the Democrat Party. If any, he 571 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: doesn't matter right now. He's a talking head on CNN. 572 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: The guy's past. You know, he's passed his prime, he's 573 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: lost his fastball. No one really cares. I think you're 574 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: gonna hear a lot of this because it's the interesting thing. 575 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: It's it's a more it's the more exciting conversation. You know, 576 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: the unknown doing crazy things, mixing it up, you know, 577 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: letting our democracy be messy, or whatever the Democrats want 578 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: to say about it. One thing I learned at the CIA, 579 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: the boring status quo almost always wins. The boring status 580 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: quo is incredibly powerful inertia, whether in government or in politics, 581 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: or you name it. Iner is the eight hundred pound 582 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: beast that gets overlooked by everybody. It just is the 583 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: couple that you expect to get divorced never gets divorced. Yeah, 584 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: this is what I you know, It's just yeah, people 585 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: don't people. You know, when when you think big change 586 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 2: is coming, you have to understand the forces that are 587 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: raided against it. And it's not always what the best 588 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: argument is. It's this sense of what is will be, 589 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: and laziness often reigns supreme, and what is known is 590 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 2: better than what is unknown. I again, if I am 591 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: wrong on this, when I will eat my hat and 592 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: Clay will eat a very delicious steak courtesy of the 593 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Buck Fund. But it's Biden or Harris. I think that's 594 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: very much the case in Clay. Every day that past 595 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: makes Biden dropping out a worse option. That's the other 596 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: part of this too. No, it hasn't happen soon. We 597 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: agree on that too. I mean, you know they're going 598 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: to wait two weeks for this to happen. I mean, 599 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: are we gonna be having this conversation the first week 600 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: of August? They're gonna replace Biden at that point? You know, 601 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: when do people realize, No, they are not Buck Island. 602 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful place. There's still a real estate available. 603 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: Talk to your broker. It's important. I'm just saying, call us, 604 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 2: let us know what you think. Tell me how much 605 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: you agree with me, and how much you disagree with 606 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: Clay eight hundred two two two eight a two. 607 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 608 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 2: Look, if you're somebody who's making a lot of money 609 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: from a company that you founded, you generally wouldn't think 610 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: about cutting your lucrative cash salary. But until a couple 611 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: of years ago, my friend Porter Stansbury was being compensated 612 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: very highly from running his financial research company. But now 613 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: his salary is a dollar a year. Why would Porter 614 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: do this? He's found a better way to compensate himself. 615 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: He sees a new form of money in America, and 616 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: it's making some people very rich. You don't need to 617 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: be a CEO to obtain this kind of compensation. Thousands 618 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: of Americans in a wide variety of full time roles 619 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: have already started to be compensated this way. It's documented 620 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: and detailed in a video that Porter is sharing for 621 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: free online. Every American is legally entitled to use this 622 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: not so well known currency, but if you know much 623 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: about it. But now Porter is hoping to change that, 624 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: and it's critical to understand how America's new money works. 625 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: He believes it's the most critical way to protect your 626 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 2: income as the dollar collapse continues. Check out Porter's latest 627 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: detailed presentation online at secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. 628 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: You won't see this discussed anywhere else. Go to Secret 629 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: Currency twenty twenty four dot com. 630 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 4: Keep up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage with twenty 631 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: four a Sunday highlight reel from the week. Find it 632 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 633 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck, We'll take some of 634 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: your calls here, and also I'll let you know where 635 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: we're going next. More on the way the media is 636 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: trying to convince you that the whole Biden thing is 637 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: not a not a total joke at this point. Also, 638 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: did you talk yesterday Clay about Kamala video. I didn't. 639 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: I missed some parts of the show. I listened where 640 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: I could, but we talk, not play. 641 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: You're talking about we can't on the unburdened thing like 642 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: we can't. 643 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: No, I mean, well she when she did the video 644 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: with Uhay, No, I didn't talk about the base time 645 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: with the bet Award thing. They try to make Kamala 646 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: seem likable and hip and relatable, and I swear everything 647 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: she's everything Kamala says. It just reminds you of the 648 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: most boring and most unself aware, like corporate DEI lecture 649 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 2: you've ever heard in your life. And that she's also 650 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: an awful actress. Like I know that I can't act. 651 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: So if you give me a script and ask me 652 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: to say exactly what's on it, I don't even try 653 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: to do it right. I can talk, you know, stemporaneously. 654 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: I can tell you what you would think somebody would 655 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: sit down with her and say, hey, Kamala, after that 656 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Moon video where you talked about all the creators on 657 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: the Moon with all the kid actors, let's not have 658 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: you act anymore. 659 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: Just just no more of this. And yet they still 660 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: do it. Let's get Bill and Lafayette, Louisiana wondering what's 661 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: going on here? What's going on Bill rather. 662 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 3: Hey Clay, hey Buck, pleasure to be on your show. 663 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 3: So my process is that Trump has had this huge 664 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: search in the polls due to the fake Marshawn and 665 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: Alvin Bragg case. Now what happens if Biden does a 666 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: complete one to eighty, which he's been doing left and right, 667 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: and pardons Trump. 668 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: I can tell you my reaction to this is it's 669 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: too late. He's allowed this to go on. He's allowed 670 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court to weigh in in ways that clearly 671 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: benefit Trump. He allowed the prosecution, not that he could 672 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: stop it, but he didn't speak out against the prosecution 673 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: in New York City. I think it would just make it. 674 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: There was a time when Biden could have been magnanimous 675 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: Bill to the question you're asking and said, let's just 676 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: let the election decide. No, no, no, you can't. They 677 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: can't get Florida done, They're probably not getting DC done, 678 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: they can't get Atlanta done. New York is a joke. 679 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 2: To come in now and be the the magnanimous Biden 680 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: would just look weak. I think I think Bill's hit 681 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: on that. 682 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: It's probably Hail Mary time, and so I don't think 683 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: it's crazy to wonder that. I think the way he 684 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: would do it, if he did it buck, is that's 685 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: how he would pardon Hunter. He would say, I'm going 686 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: to pardon my son and I'm partnering pardoning Trump going 687 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: after individual families is the wrong. It's time for me 688 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: to rise above that. Again, it's a desperate like I'm 689 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: trying to change the narrative move. But I think it 690 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: would have been better when he wasn't losing, because when 691 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: you're wing, it looks desperate, it looks desperate, it looks 692 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: like it looks like a Hail Mary, right, and you 693 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: know if you're trying to pretend that that's not where 694 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: you are. 695 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: Also, I mean Hunter Biden is getting pardoned not until 696 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: after the election. That is the other we agree on 697 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: that too. Yeah, we'll get in more of this and 698 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: Kamala trying to seem cool and normal. We all know 699 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: how that goes. We'll talk about it.