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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nolan.

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Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Alexis code name Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly,

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Speaker 3: you are you. You are here. That makes this the

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Speaker 3: stuff they don't want you to know. We're hurtling headlong

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Speaker 3: toward the end of August, and we have such wonders

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Speaker 3: to show you. We're going to We're going to talk

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Speaker 3: about Disney, We're going to talk about Mars. We're going

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Speaker 3: to hit up Banksy before we do any of that.

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Speaker 3: Matt Nol, code named dot Call, is a little bit salty. Uh,

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Speaker 3: a little bit salty with me.

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Speaker 4: What about your where you find yourself in the world? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm having a little foam on myself. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: lie going on blow up your spot, but uh, let's

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Speaker 4: just say mister Miyagi would be proud.

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Speaker 3: Ooh nice, nice. What did you call it? Doc? Not

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Speaker 3: a cold open but a heartless open.

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Speaker 4: All right now, Ben, we wish you the best in

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Speaker 4: your travels abroad. We really do. We're not mad at all.

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Speaker 2: Here, we go for yourself because I am mad. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I just think it's cool.

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Speaker 4: It is cool, super cool, not like literal mad. You know,

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Speaker 4: we all go a little mad sometimes code named Doc Holliday.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of going, okay, this is one that just

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Speaker 3: as as I mentioned that a lot of our fellow

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Speaker 3: conspiracy realists have sent us, we all saw the thing

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Speaker 3: about News having to hunt down all that candy with

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Speaker 3: methamphetamine in it. Did you guys hear about that.

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Speaker 4: Code named candy? All right? The street name, yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: Was it a part of some charity or some kind

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Speaker 2: of super positive thing?

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Speaker 3: And then there's myth, yes, yeah, in the candy, which

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Speaker 3: is like the Halloween myth.

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Speaker 4: There was a similar story too about like a guitar center,

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Speaker 4: if anyone like knows guitar center for you know, amps

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Speaker 4: and music gear and stuff. A bunch of amplifiers were

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Speaker 4: found to be stuffed with bricks of cocaine. So I

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Speaker 4: thought that was a sort of an analogous kind of story.

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Speaker 3: Yes, speaking of analogous. In our show's home state of

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Speaker 3: Georgia as I'm sure we all saw. That's right right,

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Speaker 3: Doc is on the road and this whole place falls

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Speaker 3: apart without your code name Holiday because over two three

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Speaker 4: Yeah the vegetable no one ever pays at digit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I said forrest, You said forest Park.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the way to my old uh stompy grounds.

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Speaker 2: So celery candy, yeah, anything else we get, guitar amps,

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Speaker 3: For the good, cocaine, all stuff with drugs. I want

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Speaker 3: just because, uh, we'll get into this story, but conspiracy realists,

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Speaker 4: So if that was a question, I mean, next thing

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Speaker 4: on the list will be boar's head meat stuffed with drugs.

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Speaker 3: Are you tired of the same old listeria boar's head

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Speaker 3: about terms and conditions, or what is it, terms of use,

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Speaker 3: not read. Disney has recently, as just a few days ago,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, and Disney has asked the court to dismiss this.

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Speaker 4: So I mean Disney Springs is sort of like a

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. It looks like it looks like

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Speaker 3: that they could be accommodated. She ordered the vegitarian broccoli

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Speaker 3: like a shepherd's pie, vegan shepherd's pie, and then onion rings.

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Speaker 3: The vegetarian broccoli is sure, I'm frittered, the sea scallop

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Speaker 3: shappetizer's scallop forest, and the the shepherd's pie is this

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Speaker 4: I think I was looking for a Disney pun in

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Speaker 4: those names, but I don't think that's what there is.

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Speaker 3: We haven't identified the Onion rings as students of their

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Speaker 2: I just think it's funny that they have such cute names,

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Speaker 2: right for meals in a cute place, the Disney Springs.

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Speaker 4: That's the cutest place on Earth their tagline. If I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and everything's it's the happiest place on Earth. Everything's

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So unfortunately, again this is tragic. Parts of this

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Speaker 3: arbitrate all disputes within the company. And they claim that

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Speaker 3: That's like imagine, imagine you sign up for Netflix or

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Speaker 4: Well, Netflix does have like a brick and mortar movie

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Speaker 4: that that's relatively new. I'm sorry. Let me let me

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Speaker 4: try to understand. Are you saying that there's some sort

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Speaker 3: Right, I had the same thing. That's what's christ That's

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Speaker 4: What if that DLC gives you fatal food poisoning? What then?

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Speaker 4: I mean joking, But it's like, good lord, that's a

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Speaker 2: Well, let's first talk about what arbitration means, because I

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Speaker 3: Right. The only the only difference between that and having

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Speaker 4: Isn't that a situation where you can opt for arbitrary

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Speaker 3: Right, right, Which makes me think we might be able

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Speaker 3: I haven't said the husband's name yet. Jeffrey Piccolo is

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Speaker 3: team is saying Disney's latest legal move here is preposterous

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Speaker 3: because if everybody signs off on this, if a court

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I guess that is kind of the

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Speaker 2: Nobody's going to read the actual Facebook terms of service,

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Speaker 2: the actual insert company here document. You're just going to

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Speaker 2: And we've returned, and we're going to stay on that

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Speaker 2: Well, uh, you want to get some good gams, why

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Speaker 2: not also enjoy Mars offerings of three Musketeers, Milky Way, Snickers, Twigs,

435
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: Dove chocolate products, all of them. Unilever owns the soap,

436
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: by the way, the Dove soap.

437
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: Mars also no connection, zero brand connection between Dove Chocolate

438
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 4: and Dove Soap. I always wondered that, so I don't.

439
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't think so unless somebody else has more information

440
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: on it. My understanding is that, yeah, Mars has the chocolate,

441
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: Unilever has the soap. They also owned three to four

442
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: other fancy chocolate brands, such as Hotel Chocola, which has

443
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: no E at the end. That's how you know it's fancy.

444
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

445
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Speaker 2: I also didn't realize that they owned the three most

446
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: popular fruit flavored candies in the United States, Life Savers, Starburst,

447
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: and Skittles.

448
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: Skittles is just like fruit flavored m and ms basically,

449
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you know.

450
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: Taste the rainbow of oligarchy.

451
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. Remember when they had that spate of bizarre Skittles

452
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: commercials that were borderline like sexual. It was I'm sorry,

453
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Speaker 4: carry on, I just marketing. Marketing is weird.

454
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna look that up right after this, but

455
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're talking about.

456
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: Well, but it's not just candy, right.

457
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: Well, basically from all of that list there, Halloween is

458
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: like a big charity event so that we can all

459
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: donate to Mars, which is weird. But I had no

460
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: idea that they have a monopoly on chewing gum. I'm serious.

461
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: They own Double Mint Gum, Winter Fresh Juicy Fruit, Big Red,

462
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: Hubba Bubba, extra Orbit Eclipse, and five Gum. You remember

463
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: that one five. It was so exciting back to.

464
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: That number five as like an f It's kind of inspiring, though, Matt,

465
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Speaker 3: that you include Big Red there, because that shows us

466
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Speaker 3: that even big companies end up taking a massive loss

467
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: once in a while. Because Big read is just like

468
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: big red war crime for your mouth.

469
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Speaker 2: Wow, I used to really like it's a cinnamon one, right, that's.

470
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Speaker 3: What they say.

471
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Speaker 4: Did you ever like lick the wrapper and stick it

472
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: on your forehead to try to feel something? Yeah, it's

473
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 4: a thing kids used to do. Maybe it is the

474
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Speaker 4: only one. It's a thing I didn't know exactly, because

475
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: what are you gonna do?

476
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: Eat the gum?

477
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: I did you know what they also own, guys? The

478
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: thing we used to always carry around in our cargo pants,

479
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: the curiously strong mints.

480
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Speaker 4: You remember those in the Altoids, Yeah, which which which

481
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 4: always kind of had the patina of European specialty mints.

482
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Speaker 4: It's sort of like craft breweries that are owned by

483
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Speaker 4: giant beer companies, Like they have all these little brands.

484
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like Altoids is totally made in the Swiss

485
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: Alps from unfiltered spring.

486
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: Water or something, right, I mean maybe it is, but

487
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Mars owns whatever the factory is.

488
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Speaker 3: Shout out to the tenovation episodes we had to do

489
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Speaker 3: years bank a.

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Speaker 2: I remember those. Oh but when we're talking about the

491
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: gum here, the reason why they own all those is

492
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: because they became one with Wriggly's not too long ago.

493
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Speaker 4: How did I say, it's almost like erasure where I

494
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: was like it weren't those all wrigglies? What happened to?

495
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: Well, that's the natural trends, right, mm hmmm.

496
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: They also owned kind Bars and combos, the craveable pretzel

497
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: rolls filled with pizza somehow Nature's Bakery fig bars, which

498
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: again seem kind of healthy. I used to eat with

499
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Speaker 2: my son all the time. Nope, I'm paid extra.

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00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 3: It must be healthy.

501
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: And this really solves a mystery for me because kind

502
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 4: bars always had Eminem versions and Snickers versions, and it's

503
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 4: basically just this masquerading as healthy candy bar, you know, yeah, dude.

504
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: Oh, and that's just one of their segments, by the way,

505
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: and that's not including all the other international products that

506
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: they offer, because they offer different products in different countries

507
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: and different regions. They've also got a food and nutrition

508
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: segment that owns your brand of rice. Ben by the way,

509
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: used to be Uncle Ben's, now just Benz Rice. So congratulations.

510
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: We should not be defined by our connections, you know

511
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: what I mean, social or familial. Also, I believe big

512
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Speaker 3: in the world of pet food, right is that.

513
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Croft huge in pet food? Think of a pet food brand.

514
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: They probably own it, including the stuff you see at

515
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: the vets office that's like prescription pet food. They own

516
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: the brand, and they own most of the vets VCA vets,

517
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: Banfield vets that are popping up everywhere. We're talking thousands

518
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Speaker 2: of veterinary clinics.

519
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: Very specific stuff that sounds like it was made by

520
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: a pharmaceutical outfit. Like do you have an elderly epileptic parrot,

521
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: This is the only food you can feed it. Guess

522
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: what Mars makes it?

523
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Speaker 4: Isn't this what they'd call vertical integration, like that kind

524
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: of stuff where like you own the pet food and

525
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: you on the vet clinics that like shill the pet

526
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: food or like prescribe it or whatever. Yeah.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So they own all that stuff already, guys, and

528
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: they just merged with Kelenova. So what did they get

529
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: from Kelenova. Let's talk about it. Pop Tarts, Aggo Waffles,

530
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: Neutral Grain Bars, Special k Cereal RX Bars, Morning Star Farms,

531
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Speaker 2: plant based frozen meat alternatives, Pringles, potato crisps, cheese at Crackers,

532
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: Club Crackers, Townhouse Crackers, Zesta Saltines, Austin Cracker Sandwiches.

533
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Speaker 4: They own the whole aisle bro like, dude, the heck,

534
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: that's insane.

535
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Speaker 2: They even own the crackers that are hanging out over

536
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Speaker 2: by the fancy cheeses, you know, the table fancy water crackers.

537
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ones that the same since the fifties, like

538
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: the packaging.

539
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Speaker 3: The ones only come in the one sleeve your unit

540
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: because they're that fancy and it's Kellogg.

541
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Speaker 2: So they they now own all of those Kellogg's cereal

542
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: brands that did not break off into a separate Kellogg's

543
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: company that happened pretty recently. But yeah, remember we talked

544
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: about how a lot of the cereals you can't the

545
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: American cereals you can't buy in Europe in other places

546
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: because of the ingredients. Yes, this company, Kelenova, owns the

547
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: manufacturing of the like European versions of what frosted flakes

548
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: would be, right, Does that make sense?

549
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Expand so these.

550
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: Two things coming together, I feel so gross, so weird,

551
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: so awful reading this, and I don't know that I

552
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: can fully explain why, other than this feeling that when

553
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: I walk into a store, I am tricked into believing

554
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: these are all different choices that I get to make

555
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: absolutely with my money or you know, with what I

556
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: feed myself and my family, but really it is just

557
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: the same stuff.

558
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: It's the illusion of choice, right, not for nothing was

559
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: our first episode ever on Edward Bernez. And from the

560
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: perspective of these entities, just like a large just like

561
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: funeral monopolies, which is an example we keep going back to.

562
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: We harp on this kind of stuff because food is

563
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: a universal need, right, People love talking about any aspect

564
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: of food. It's also a great business because people are

565
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: demand for certain types of food may wax and wane

566
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: and fluctuate, but demand for food in general is not

567
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: going away anytime soon. And I was reading in this

568
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: article you shared, Matt, just the stat that goes to inflation.

569
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Speaker 3: About how much we talked about this at length, but

570
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: whenever we mentioned something repeatedly, folks, it's because we feel

571
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: as mission critical. Food prices across the world have skyrocketed

572
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: no matter where you go, unless arguably if you go

573
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: to some authoritarian places where they have better price controls,

574
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: different bag badgers. But food prices in the US alone,

575
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: these journalists point out, increased by our quarter in just

576
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: four years, and that is far out pacing the rate

577
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: of inflation, far out pacing even fricking housing. Man. This

578
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: is so if you're an average person, you are laboring

579
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: under the illusion of choice, right, You're not really getting

580
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: to make choices. Your decision treed into giving the money somehow,

581
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 3: and then, perhaps more dangerously, specially combined with this targeting

582
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: of personal info, you are going to be paying more.

583
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: That is simply the truth. This is very good from

584
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: the perspective of the businesses because now they have something

585
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: they can take to the boardroom and say, hey, guys,

586
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: you like to messing with us last quarter? You know

587
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: what I mean? It reminds me. I don't know, man,

588
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 3: there's so much dirty stuff, Matt, I see what you're

589
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: saying about feeling weird because who was it? There was

590
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: a ceo I think of was it Starbucks who got

591
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: fired for not busting unions? Yeah?

592
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: They got fired, yes, yeah.

593
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: And they brought in like the Chipotle CEO or something else. Right,

594
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: he is going on there?

595
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: It was Notoriously who is apparently has a name in

596
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Speaker 3: the C suite community.

597
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: For being bounty, isn't he. The guys said that they

598
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 4: definitely weren't making portions smaller, but then a study proved

599
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: they definitely were, and then he came out and said, sorry,

600
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: we'll do better. He's I can remember.

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Speaker 3: It's kind it's kind of like, I mean, it's a

602
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 3: mind game, right, It's kind of like one thing I

603
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: ran into a few years ago. You know, if you're

604
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: in a different countries, sometimes they'll tell you get the

605
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: tourist tax, right, or the foreigner price, or that's language

606
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: barrier and not being from there and whatever. There was

607
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: a Japanese official and I'll find the source if anyone's

608
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: interested who said, oh, no, we're not charging people more,

609
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: we're not charging visitors more, we're charging local less.

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: Mmmming.

611
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: But like maybe that's part of the ichiness you're feeling there, Matt.

612
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: Is all these factors, I think so.

613
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: But it does kind of go back to Brene's. It

614
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: goes back to some of our studies on capitalism in general.

615
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to read from this article again, this Reuter's

616
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: article from August fourteenth. This is a quote. The deal

617
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: is a bet on consumers continuing to indulge in branded snacks,

618
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: and comes as packaged food companies face stalling growth after

619
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: years of price hikes to cover skyrocketing inflation, which is

620
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: a whole other thing, because there's an investigation right now

621
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Speaker 2: into food companies and how they've altered their prices to

622
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: quote counteract inflation, and to see how much of that

623
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Speaker 2: is actually price gouging to make the consumers pay for

624
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: it rather than you know, absorbing some of the costs

625
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: of inflation like that.

626
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: But it is.

627
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Speaker 2: It creeps me out because the current mars CEO, Paul

628
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Speaker 2: way Reich or yates why rash maybe w E I

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Speaker 2: R W E I H R A U c H.

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Speaker 2: He says, quote, we hope to be able to absorb

631
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Speaker 2: more costs in our structure and help alleviate the issues

632
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: we have in an inflationary environment.

633
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I gotta have what the though? Yeah, I love this,

634
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: but we need a positive out lighting because this is

635
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: terrible news. But positive lighting. Folks. If you are singularly

636
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 3: ready tomingle to find yourself already in a in a

637
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: stranger bad romance, may we suggest your new pickup live

638
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: for your partner darling, please join me. Let us indulge

639
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: in some branded snacks.

640
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Speaker 4: Oh well, so are they basically saying that, like the

641
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: merger is necessary in order to keep them from continuously

642
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: passing on that burden to customers. It sounds like bull

643
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: to me. I mean in terms of they're basically saying, like,

644
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: we refuse to ever make less. We have to grow, grow, grow,

645
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 4: because that's what stakeholders, you know, in the market and

646
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 4: all that expect. But isn't that kind of the argument

647
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: they're making. They're like, no, you should be okay with

648
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 4: it because that means savings for you kind of.

649
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Speaker 2: But ultimately they're competing with the what they call private

650
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: label like off brand versions, the generics of your townhouse whatever,

651
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: or pop tarts, straight.

652
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: Up bags of cereal at the bottom of the grocery aisle.

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Speaker 2: Clowny yuffs, you know, because all of us US consumers

654
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: we're feeling this inflation. We're the ones who are actually

655
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: dealing with inflation, and we are having to just grapple

656
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Speaker 2: with Oh, well, I guess I can't buy that anymore, right, Oh,

657
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: I guess I can't afford that or indulge in that

658
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: snack anymore when I go on that date to pick

659
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: somebody to end gets yes, And this is this is

660
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Speaker 2: what the article says. The US packaged food sector as

661
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: an entirety thing is seeing robust deal making as companies

662
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: seek to scale to weather the impact of inflation, weary

663
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Speaker 2: customers cutting back and shifting their purchases to private label

664
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Speaker 2: label brands. So what they're betting is that if they

665
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Speaker 2: have enough brands on the shelves, they are going to

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Speaker 2: have enough overall sales so that their their money keeps

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Speaker 2: going up.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that what a monopoly is. Yeah, that's what it

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00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: feels like to me.

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Speaker 3: But not yet, because there's I would advance. Uh, there

671
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: is a final step, and it's a step that they're

672
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: going to have to reckon with at some point. What

673
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: happens when there is no more nestley? What happens you know,

674
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: what happens to coke when there is no more pepsi?

675
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: What happens when there's nothing left to buy, to merge

676
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: and acquire, to murder and execute. Then they when that's

677
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: not when the rural domination. No, that's when the rubber

678
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: hits the road. That's the thing that capitalism is scared of.

679
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: That's when the graph that's going up can no longer go.

680
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta have someone to fight against. It's perpetual war.

681
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 4: I mean, it's basically isn't that right?

682
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's scary. Oh you know what,

683
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: they're also scared of people who make snack branded snacks.

684
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 2: They're afraid of wigovy and ozempic. Apparently investors at least

685
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: are worried about that, because this is what it says, quote,

686
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Speaker 2: investors are worried about a decline in sales from the

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Speaker 2: greater adoption of drugs such as ozempic and wigovy for

688
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: weight loss, which curb appetites and lead to feelings of fullness.

689
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: The investors are afraid of you being full, so you

690
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: won't shove cookies and candy in your face.

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Speaker 3: Now, just buy the Kelenva branded ozempic. You know, get

692
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: the money there. That's how it works. I feel like

693
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Speaker 3: I'd be good at a boardroom even we've.

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Speaker 4: Seen you've done it, we've worked. There's there's video, there's

695
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 4: there's footage. But I mean, great success isn't The whole

696
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: idea though, of diversification is heading off stuff like that

697
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: at the past where you got your health conscious brand.

698
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Speaker 4: So no matter what side of the aisle, health flies,

699
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Speaker 4: snacking wise, people fall, there's going to be something for

700
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Speaker 4: them that you are selling them. But I guess the

701
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: issue with ozempic is that you're not selling them anything

702
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Speaker 4: because they're not hungry anymore. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually several companies I can't find it in here

704
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: right now, several companies, Oh, Nestle, specifically guys Nestley is

705
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Speaker 2: developing brand new products, specifically for people who use those drugs.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the next step. I can't wait. Somebody really

707
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: needs to do this. All right, You don't have to

708
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: write to us. I know I keep interrupting here, but

709
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: don't have to write to us. But just so you know,

710
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Speaker 3: if you happen to be a c suite dude in

711
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Speaker 3: the right industry or do debt, I feel dude is

712
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: a gender neutral term now, But if you happen to

713
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Speaker 3: be up there in the upper echelons of corporate America,

714
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: whatt something? Put something that's a low like slow burned,

715
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: mild dire redick into some popular foods, and then before

716
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Speaker 3: you do that, buy up you know, the ripe medicines

717
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: and then brand them and make them sexy and tell

718
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Speaker 3: no one except for the investors.

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Speaker 2: Hey, there you go, There you go, because that's all

720
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Speaker 2: that matters. Last quote from the article before we end

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Speaker 2: the segment, y'all. Mars said on Wednesday, that's Wednesday. As

722
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Speaker 2: we're recording this on October fourteenth, so today it will

723
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Speaker 2: pay eighty three dollars and fifty cents per share for

724
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Speaker 2: Kelen Nova, representing about a thirty three percent premium to

725
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: its closing price on August second. Isn't that nice? Guys?

726
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: The investors made big and that's all that matters.

727
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Speaker 3: Get on them and for anybody who's wondering if there's

728
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: justice in this wide, dangerous world of ours. Some of

729
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: those guys probably subscribe to Disney Plus.

730
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Speaker 2: Uh oh, watch out. Arbitration is a come in. Hey,

731
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Speaker 2: we'll be right back with more Strange News after a

732
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Speaker 2: word from our sponsors.

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Speaker 4: And we're back. And before I get into the main

734
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Speaker 4: story that I brought for today's Strange News, I just

735
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Speaker 4: wanted to mention a couple of shorties. One that hit

736
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Speaker 4: close to home for me being a person who snores,

737
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Speaker 4: and really gave me pause in terms of what might

738
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Speaker 4: become of me at the hands of my partner.

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Speaker 3: I have to recuse myself for this one, guys, because

740
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Speaker 3: the newsophonia that I suffer from. I don't think anybody

741
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Speaker 3: should kill anybody, just be clear, but I cannot handle

742
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: snoring their mouth noises.

743
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Speaker 4: I'm glad we haven't ever had to share a hotel room.

744
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Speaker 4: It was a road trip. There was a road trip

745
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: that got close. Okay, fair enough, close to you stabbing

746
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: me to death in my sleep, recusing myself by friend. Okay,

747
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 4: fair enough. There's a little bit of confusion here in

748
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: the story. Guys, I'm going to read you the headline.

749
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Speaker 4: I think you get the just thus far. Philadelphia man

750
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Speaker 4: pleads guilty the stabbing neighbor to death over snoring. In

751
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: my mind, I picture it's the person who is upset

752
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: by the snoring stabbing the snorer to death as a

753
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: result of said, you know, inconvenience. Apparently quite the opposite.

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Speaker 4: Christopher Casey, fifty six years old, was recently handed a

755
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Speaker 4: relatively short prison sentence after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter

756
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Speaker 4: when his neighbor, Robert Wallace, sixty two, busted through his

757
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Speaker 4: window to potentially do him harm. I guess that's the

758
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 4: only way you get involuntary manslaughter out of this, right,

759
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Speaker 4: But it led to an altercation that involved Casey stabbing

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Speaker 4: Wallace to death. He also pleaded guilty to possessing an

761
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Speaker 4: instrument of crime, being a knife.

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Speaker 3: Which is like the non branded snack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But the interesting thing is apparently Wallace had been

764
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Speaker 4: dealing with this for so long that he was over it,

765
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: and he said, look, I'll help you get a surgery to,

766
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Speaker 4: you know, take care of this problem. I'll help you

767
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 4: pay for it. It would benefit us both. But Casey

768
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Speaker 4: did not believe him and declined.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a past here too. Usually in these

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Speaker 3: kind of situations, they don't come out of that.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I mentioned these kind of simmering resentments

772
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: usually don't happen overnight. No, guys.

773
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Speaker 2: Imagine your neighbor busts down your window and says, hey,

774
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Speaker 2: I will pay for surgery to get you fixed.

775
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 4: Now what, I would assume that that conversation took place,

776
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Speaker 4: perhaps a little more civilly, at another time, and this

777
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 4: was the result of him having declined the offer.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was probably I'll tell you if we're guessing here,

779
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: and we'd have to go to the full Philadelphia Inquirer article.

780
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Speaker 3: But what it sounds like, again, simmering intensions. And it

781
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: might be because they share a wall in a duplex.

782
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Speaker 3: It might be a thing where Wallace is there at

783
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Speaker 3: three in the morning or something or let's say I

784
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Speaker 3: nine am and is just cop knocking on his neighbor's

785
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Speaker 3: door and says, you know, dude, I will help you,

786
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Speaker 3: but maybe in like a really rude, confrontational agro way,

787
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: an offensive way. So like to your point, no, it

788
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Speaker 3: does it. I don't know if it was the gentleman

789
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Speaker 3: with cravats in the drawing room, you know, so like

790
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: pashing it out, yeah, decanting brandy, And I would think

791
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Speaker 3: perhaps the respiratory system.

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00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 4: Indeed, it is a it is a sticky wick at

793
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Speaker 4: that respiratory system, a complex network of tubes. Indeed, yeah, literally,

794
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 4: and uh, I guess you know, metaphorically this sounds pretty rife.

795
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Speaker 4: Either to move on from this one, if you guys

796
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: are okay, unless Matt, you had anything else you had

797
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Speaker 4: to you wanted to add about this.

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Speaker 2: I would just say his neighbor broke in because he

799
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Speaker 2: was snoring, and he ended up, in an act of

800
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Speaker 2: involuntary manslaughter, killed his neighbor that broke into his house.

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Speaker 4: And he got.

802
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Speaker 2: Eleven and a half months, no between eleven and a

803
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: half to twenty three months in prison for doing that

804
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: and three years of probation.

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00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 4: Not for nothing. But you know, it's not what you

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00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: get for a cold blooded murder, most foul you know,

807
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 4: I mean.

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00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: Right, and it wasn't. Again, this is not a Brandy

809
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: and Decanters and Cravat situation. There weren't epistols at dawn.

810
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: There is a cold ending though, where he Casey does

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00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: apologize to the family and he uses a word I

812
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: don't like where he says, this is unfortunate. That's not

813
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 3: what you say when you kill someone, even actually.

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00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: Don't have a non apology.

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Speaker 2: It also notes that his attorney told the newspaper that

816
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: they were speaking with there in Philadelphia. That quote Casey's

817
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: autism makes it difficult to navigate confrontation. He was terrified

818
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: of this guy, and he believed he had no option.

819
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: So I'm just when I'm thinking that might be a choice.

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00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: Through your window. Isn't that tech? I mean, there are

821
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: certain states that would stand your ground, would would come

822
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: into play there.

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Speaker 3: So that attorney is James Lyons.

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00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: Gosh, a lot more at play in that one than

825
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: I even realized, more complex story than I would have

826
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Speaker 4: thought upon reading the headline. So thank you guys for

827
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: adding some additional context and detail to that one. The

828
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Speaker 4: second one, the really short. I just want to keep

829
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Speaker 4: this one as short as possible, because I'm pretty excited

830
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: about this bigger one. NASA is apparently using glitter on Mars,

831
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Speaker 4: more or less glitter bombing Mars to potentially make it

832
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 4: more habitable for humans. You know, we obviously here stuff

833
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: that I want you to know. Have a fascination for glitter?

834
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: Where does it come from, who's buying it? What are

835
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 4: the military uses for it? I mean, glitter is sort

836
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: of a pop cultural term. I guess this is really

837
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Speaker 4: more of a heat trapping particulate. I guess it's an

838
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: aluminum based sort of like dust that if shot into

839
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Speaker 4: the atmosphere of Mars could potentially soak up some of

840
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 4: the heat over time and make Mars more habitable. This

841
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: is a.

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00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: True story of felly conspiracy realist. And maybe it's the

843
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: sleep deprivation, but I'm I'm chuckling building out this increasingly

844
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: elaborate scenario in my head. Come dotting, indulge in some

845
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: branded snacks, and let us explore our fascination of Martian glitter.

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00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, well, and it is essentially I

847
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: guess forced global warming, right, I mean, it's a it's

848
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: a form of that, it's climate control, and you know

849
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: the idea is I'll just read from that. There was

850
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: a this This is coming as a result of a

851
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 4: paper that was released from the University of Chicago. A

852
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 4: planetary scientist by the name of Edward Kite helped lead

853
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: this study that was published in the journal of Science Advances.

854
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 4: He talks about how there's you know, obviously interest in

855
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: terraforming Mars, the idea of making it similar to Earth

856
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: in terms of like, you know, habitability, and for Mars,

857
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: he says warming the planet is a necessary but insufficient

858
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: for Previous concepts have focused on releasing greenhouse gases, but

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00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: these require large amounts of resources that are scarce on Mars.

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Speaker 4: The key elements of our paper are a novel proposal

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Speaker 4: to use engineered nanoparticles to warm Mars's atmosphere and climate

862
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 4: modeling that suggests this approach could be much more efficient

863
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: than previous concepts. So glitter bomb Mars, I guess why not.

864
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: I can already see it. They're just gonna cause accidental

865
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: runaway global warming on Mars before we even get there.

866
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, why not, let's just head it off with the past. Guys,

867
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: they're gonna do it anyway, let's just nip in the button,

868
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: get it done quick again.

869
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: Sounding like an old curmudgeon, I'm building two long form

870
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: improv scenes, so I like an old curmudget. We have

871
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: Earth at home, you know what I mean? Maybe fix that.

872
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 3: We've also got out of control glitter on Earth. Maybe

873
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: maybe fix that. But Noil, I'm glad you brought this

874
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: up because the idea of terraforming or modifying the Martian

875
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: climate is the long term goal, because otherwise is uh

876
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: You're I don't know. Man Mars is so appealing, but

877
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: there are so many problems with living there long term,

878
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: even if you have a subterranean metropolis. So maybe this

879
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: will be an answer. But right now it seems like

880
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: a broad theoretical brush, does it not.

881
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 4: Oh, it's absolutely in the realm of like you know, uh,

882
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: conceptualization at this point. How how it would actually be

883
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: rolled out? I have not read the full paper. Maybe

884
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: they get right into it A through Z. But you know,

885
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 4: I'm it's not very clear from what I'm reading here.

886
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: Uh in uh Fast Company by the way, this article

887
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: if you want to read a little bit more about this, well,

888
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: actually it's published in Fast Company, but it's written by

889
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 4: Reuter's staff, So maybe those companies are.

890
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 3: Kind of company.

891
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Little Too Fast guys fast too little, too fast,

892
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 4: too fast for class my my final and I think

893
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 4: a little juicier this are both pretty juicy. But this one,

894
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: I just this tickled my brain in particular. I know

895
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: you guys are familiar with the street artist Banksy. A

896
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: lot has been made of like who this individual is.

897
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 4: There's a really cool documentary if you're not familiar, called

898
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: Exit through the Gift Shop that in and of itself

899
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 4: is a sort of work of art, Like it's got

900
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 4: this kind of like unreliable narrator thing where banks He

901
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: basically like creates this like street artist star mister brainwash

902
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: or whatever out of nowhere, and it's called into question

903
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 4: as to whether that's real or not, whether he actually

904
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: did that, or whether the guy was in on the game.

905
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 4: Banks he is very much almost like a Andy Kaufman

906
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: type figure, but instead of comedy, he does it with

907
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 4: street art, and his works have garnered massive global attention.

908
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: He's English, we know that much, and to the point

909
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: where these unauthorized most of the time works of art

910
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: are worth a lot of money and actually caused properties

911
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: that they're done on to like appreciate and value or

912
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 4: become like tourist destinations or whatever. And anytime a Banksy

913
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 4: pops up on so and that's like not nailed down,

914
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 4: you know, or even if it is nailed down, half

915
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: the time there's always concern that it's going to be stolen.

916
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: He's done all kinds of cool things, like there was

917
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 4: this piece of his that was auctioned off at Christie's

918
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: I want to say, are one of the big election houses,

919
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: and he or whomever he they multiple individuals. Some people

920
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: think banks He is like a collective, you know, posted

921
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: a video from inside the auction where the moment the

922
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 4: thing was auctioned for over a million pounds, he triggered

923
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 4: a button that caused the ready special made frame around

924
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: the piece to shred the work of arts in front

925
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: of you know, all the onlookers. And crazily enough, the

926
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: fact that he actually interacted with that piece made it

927
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: more valuable after it was already sold for a certain price.

928
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: So this really does call into questions there bring up

929
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 4: an interesting point, I guess about the nature of art

930
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 4: and value and intellectual property. And another irony is really

931
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 4: showing itself and this story. Banksy's recently unveiled nine animal

932
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 4: themed pieces in and around London. His organization that represents them,

933
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 4: which I believe is called Like Pest Control, have said

934
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 4: that the works don't mean anything, but his works are

935
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: almost always politically motivating, as a lot of stuff about

936
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: refugees and various conflicts around the globe. I just think

937
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 4: it's really interesting that his representation says these don't mean anything,

938
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: be as to me, they're very much in line with

939
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: this notion of like the animal kingdom coming for us.

940
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: We've done all these stories about orcas attacking boats, and

941
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: a lot has been made of this idea of like

942
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: animals have had enough and they're like revolting against humans.

943
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: Because one of these is near the London Zoo and

944
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: it's like painted on a roll up kind of security

945
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 4: gate and it's a gorilla lifting the gate up as

946
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 4: if it were made of cloth, and then there are

947
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: birds and a seal, and in the background you see

948
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: other glittering eyes escaping, you know, from the zoo. The

949
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 4: one that pertains to the story in particular is a

950
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: rhinoceros painted on the side of a building that appears

951
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: to be mounting. Let's just say or family show a

952
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: broken down car that has a safety cone on its bonnet.

953
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: They would call it in the UK it's hood, making

954
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: it kind of look like a weird anthropomorphic animal car.

955
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: So this idea that like animal kingdom is coming back

956
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: to f technology and then like we can't do anything

957
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: about it. But yeah, his people say they don't mean anything.

958
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: But I guess part of the cool thing about ours

959
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 4: you can take whatever meaning you wish, whatever the artist's

960
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: statement or representatives might say. The thing that brings this

961
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: story up today is that that particular piece was vandalized

962
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: by somebody wearing what are those little hats called ben

963
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: with the eyes in the mouth in them, the.

964
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: Little ski masks, balaclavas.

965
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, someone wearing a balot clava.

966
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: Stuff they will want, you know, brought to you by Balaklava,

967
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: the number one least shady thing to bear to your

968
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: favorite financial institution.

969
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, or just you know the store, but you know

970
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: onlookers because I don't know. These pieces get announced and

971
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 4: then the moment they're announced, like on the official Banksy

972
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 4: Instagram or whatever through other channels, immediately people are trying

973
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: to find them. There's a lot of attention being paid.

974
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 4: So people were looking on while this person did this

975
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 4: and say, hey, knock it off, don't do that. So

976
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: The Guardian reports in a piece by their staff, Banksy

977
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 4: Rhino artwork in London defaced with graffiti tag. One of

978
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: the nine murals animal themed murals put up by Banksy

979
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: in London in as many days has been defaced. And

980
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 4: actually the gorilla one that I mentioned was put up

981
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 4: after this one and after this event reading from The Guardian,

982
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 4: an image of a rhino appearing to mount a clapped

983
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 4: out silver Nissan Micra with a traffic cone on its

984
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 4: bonnet appeared in southeast London on Monday and was confirmed

985
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 4: as a bank see on the artist's Instagram account by

986
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: Tuesday morning. After the vandalization. Uh Tuesday morning, the car

987
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 4: had also been removed. A spokespression for the Royal Borough

988
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 4: of Greenwich, the local authority where the Rhino muro was located,

989
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: said it's a real shame that a mindless vandal has

990
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: defaced the mural which has already drawn visitors and brought

991
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: so much joy to many. Okay, I like Banksy a lot.

992
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 4: I really liked executing the gift shop. I think what

993
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 4: he does is really interesting, but it's it isn't it isn't.

994
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: I just think it's so fascinating. None of these are

995
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: like like sanctioned by said organization Burrow Royal Borough of Greenwich.

996
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 4: He doesn't ask permission, They don't ask permission to do

997
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: these on these buildings that are presumably owned by people.

998
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: And yet because of the nature of this, the absolute

999
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: craze around banks see in his work, it's like he

1000
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: gets a pass and the article is like, it's like

1001
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: vanned defaces vandalism, you know what I mean, Because one

1002
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 4: person's vandalism is another person's art. And we know taggers

1003
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 4: and stuff, they get arrested all the time. And it's

1004
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 4: just very interesting to me the kind of double standard here.

1005
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to be a poopooer of this

1006
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 4: type of culture, jamming art. It's really really interesting, but

1007
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 4: it did cause me to kind of think about the

1008
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 4: irony of this. And I found a really cool piece

1009
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 4: on like a marketing brand, like a marketing consultancy website

1010
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: of the UK, Harper McLoud Banksy's complicated relationship with intellectual property,

1011
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 4: and it points out the writer Sam Dillon, I'm just

1012
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 4: gonna read from it because I think it's really smart.

1013
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: The topic of Banksy's anonymity has once again been in

1014
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: the news recently due to the decision of US Fashion

1015
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 4: Giant Guests to use several of the artist's works in

1016
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 4: the online and in store promotion of a new line

1017
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: of clothing, including his famous flower thorerstencil. This is the

1018
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: one where it looks like someone's throwing a Molotov cocktail,

1019
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 4: but it's like a bouquet of flowers. Super iconic stuff.

1020
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 4: This induced the artist himself to take to Instagram to

1021
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: encourage his almost twelve million million strong followers to engage

1022
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 4: in retaliatory shoplifting at guests guesses Regent Street branch in London.

1023
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: He alleged that Guests has seen it fit to quote

1024
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: help themselves to the use of his artwork for the

1025
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: purposes of their brandalized collaboration without obtaining prior permission to

1026
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 4: do so. What do you guys think? I think it's

1027
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 4: such an interesting double standard and like he kind of

1028
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 4: wants to have it, they whatever want want to have

1029
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: it both ways.

1030
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: Hypocrites in the art community say it, and so also

1031
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: bonus points for brandalized. That's that's it's.

1032
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 4: Funny, but almost kind of cringe. Is it not a

1033
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 4: little cringe?

1034
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: My favorite new portmanteau.

1035
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty funny. Let's go on a little

1036
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: bit more. Uh, it says Banksy's aforementioned aversion to intellectual

1037
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: property rights, which he has made very very clear, like

1038
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: he openly asked people to copy his style, to reproduce it, whatever.

1039
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 4: But it's almost this unspoken caveat of like as long

1040
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: as you're not making money off of it. Has also

1041
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: been a contributory factor to his difficulties in obtaining trademark

1042
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: protection over his work. Over the past few years, several

1043
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: of his trademark registrations filed in the name of Pest

1044
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 4: Control Office Limited, have been subjected to successful cancellation actions

1045
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: on the basis of bad faith at the EUIPO, which

1046
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 4: is the European Union Intellectual Property Office. The article goes

1047
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: on somewhat surprisingly, these rulings have repeatedly made direct reference

1048
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: to Banksy's opinions on ip referencing both his decision to

1049
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: be quote very vocal regarding his disdain for intellectual property

1050
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 4: rights and a comment that copyright is for losers from

1051
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 4: his two thousand and six book wall and piece. While

1052
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: such statements were confirmed not to preclude an artist from

1053
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 4: accruing such rights, the eu IPO's reasoning centered on its

1054
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 4: findings that Banks he possessed no genuine intention to use

1055
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: the artworks as trademarks in relation to the goods and

1056
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: services listed. So a lot to unpack here. I don't

1057
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: want to make this an overly long segment, but I

1058
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: didn't think it was an interesting immediately, like was like, huh,

1059
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 4: you know, somebody tagged what's essentially a really really expensive

1060
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: and sought after tag like one of the other pieces,

1061
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: a wolf on a satellite dish was immediately stolen, and

1062
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: that's kind of But then what happens if you steal

1063
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 4: something like that and then try to sell it, Like

1064
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: there's no artist to come after you because they're anonymous,

1065
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 4: So it's like, it's not like stealing a painting from

1066
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 4: a museum, but it's worth as much money. These pieces

1067
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: go for millions of pounds, millions of dollars.

1068
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: You put it in your five million dollar London flat,

1069
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: and then when your fancy friends come over, you say,

1070
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: that's a Banks, that's a Banks.

1071
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm not as elitist, as people may

1072
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 3: lead you to believe. Darling observed of my Banksy stolen

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Speaker 3: here from the streets of London.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then banks he shows up to the party

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Speaker 2: when it burns in Yeah, yeah, like someone burned the bank, see,

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Speaker 2: and then there's a whole movie made about it.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah. I mean, that's why I Exit through the

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Speaker 4: Gift Shop is such a neat film, because it is

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like a work of art in itself.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of like an anti documentary. And I'm a

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Speaker 4: big fan of like, you know, sampling and like other

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Speaker 4: kinds of culture jamming, like everything is terrible. Folks who

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Speaker 4: take like weird Christian VHS tapes that are technically copywritten

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Speaker 4: but use them to create mashups and all kinds of

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Speaker 4: weird internet art, and I think that stuff is fascinating.

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Speaker 4: And like bands like Negative Land that take copyrighted material

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Speaker 4: and smash them up into weird audio collages. So I'm

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Speaker 4: all about this stuff, but I do think when you

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Speaker 4: start making copyright claims for your illegal art, it does

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Speaker 4: sort of put a little bit of a damper on

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Speaker 4: like your philosophy as a culture jamming, you know, kind

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Speaker 4: of iconoclass or whatever, and maybe let us know what

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Speaker 4: you think. Am I being too hard on banks? I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be, because I really do think

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Speaker 4: this stuff is cool, but I think it's very sticky

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Speaker 4: in terms of the legalities of it and like wanting

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Speaker 4: to have it both ways.

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Speaker 3: That's it, agreed, And that's a great question here, folks,

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Speaker 3: to to you, we pass the torch, right, because this

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Speaker 3: is Noel. I would argue, this is an inherently philosophical question, right.

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Speaker 3: It goes beyond maybe the idea of double standards into

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Speaker 3: what is art? What is ownership? We also want to know.

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Speaker 3: We want to know your favorite Mars bar. We want

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Speaker 3: to know, oh jeez, we want to know what you

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Speaker 3: think the end result of all these monopolies will be.

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Speaker 3: And can anybody like, can any of us really understand

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Speaker 3: what thirty six billion dollars is? I'm not sure. My

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Speaker 3: head rocks it.

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Speaker 2: Imagine all the cheese it's in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there we go. There's also check out cheese conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Ed tell us how long do you think it would

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Speaker 3: take to count to a billion? We do have the answer,

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Speaker 3: we'll give it to you later. Our weekly listener veil segment.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, go forth, folks, prosper have adventures. Most importantly,

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Speaker 3: let us know what you think. We try to be

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Speaker 3: easy to find online.

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Speaker 4: That's right. You can find us at the handle Conspiracy Stuff,

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Speaker 4: where we exist on Facebook, where we have our Facebook

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Speaker 4: group Here's where it gets crazy, on x fka, Twitter,

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Speaker 4: and on YouTube where we have video content galore. We

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Speaker 4: are Conspiracy Stuff Show. However, on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 2: You can call us directly. Our number is one eight

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Speaker 2: three three st d WYTK. When you choose to make

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Speaker 2: that phone call, you're gonna get three minutes. Give yourself

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Speaker 2: a cool nickname. That's mandatory. Then let us know if

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Speaker 2: we can use your name and message on the air.

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Speaker 2: The rest is yours. Have fun with it. Make your

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Speaker 2: own verbal banksy on our voice machine. If you've got

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Speaker 2: more to send, then you can fit in that three

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Speaker 2: minute message. Why not instead send us a good old

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Speaker 2: fashioned email.

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Speaker 3: We are the entities that read every piece of correspondence

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Speaker 3: we receive. Be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes the void

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Speaker 3: writes back, and perhaps Matt, you saw me typing during

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Speaker 3: part of this evening's program. We would like you to

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Speaker 3: write us a little bit of art, a poem. Should

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Speaker 3: you feel so inspired. Here is one example. Come, my

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Speaker 3: little darling skittlebag. Let our inflation be not fake. Taste

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Speaker 3: this evening rainbow with me, Join me in this adjacent duplex.

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Speaker 3: Snore to me branded snacks and monopolies. Spread your glitter

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Speaker 3: to the stars. May all your objections be dismissed, for

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