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Speaker 1: Do we have a drum roll? Sound effects? No drum roll, Chad,

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Speaker 1: come on man, all right? First question, does Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: so valuable. But how many turnovers does he have to

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Speaker 1: get in order to for him to be in that

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Speaker 1: defensive MVP conversation. I feel like it's five, which is

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Speaker 1: which should be a lot of what should be a

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Speaker 1: low for him. He had three in four games last year,

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Speaker 1: I know, but that's not been the career trajectory that

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Speaker 1: he's had. It's not like he's getting nine interceptions everything.

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Speaker 1: He's not like a d Reid, right, he has some similarities,

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Speaker 1: but he has not had Edwards kind of interception. So

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Speaker 1: I just think that if Marlon goes out there and

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Speaker 1: puts himself in that shutdown corner conversation, even if Thomas

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Speaker 1: has four, sorry, let me cut you off. Eric Weddle

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Speaker 1: had six two years ago playing in the same defense,

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Speaker 1: and Earl Thomas is much more of a playmaker in

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Speaker 1: my opinion than Eric Weddle. I agree, but I I

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Speaker 1: agree with that, um, but I don't think that you

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Speaker 1: can just say, well, Eric Weddle has six. So but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm gonna have put Earl Thomas in this defense,

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Speaker 1: and I think he has a chance to maybe up

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Speaker 1: his turnover his interception rate that he had in Seattle potential.

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Speaker 1: So you think it's Errol Thomas is gonna have more

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Speaker 1: interceptions than he has his entire career. He could set

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Speaker 1: a career high interceptions that wouldn't shock me. Right, his

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Speaker 1: career high as five. Oh, so he could hit six.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going with it. Career hi six interceptions

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Speaker 1: plus for Earl Thomas. That's my prediction. And about making

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Speaker 1: bold predictions on this pod, I'm going with it. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say he does not hit six. Um, he has

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Speaker 1: a really good year. What's that he was Steelers fan,

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Speaker 1: Steelers fan, I just say, I think Marlin is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a great player. I'm gonna go with Marlon defensive MP. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Rookie of the Year you got I will

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Speaker 1: say I'll go with Hollywood. I mean when we did

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Speaker 1: our predictions for what their what the numbers were gonna

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Speaker 1: look like, I had Hollywood ahead of Boykin, and we

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Speaker 1: both agree that it was that Justice is going to

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Speaker 1: be a good player, show some flashes, but he's third

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Speaker 1: on the depth chart behind mark Ingram and Gus Edwards.

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Speaker 1: So I'll go with Also, by the way, in the

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Speaker 1: past Rush conversation, we never mentioned Janleen Ferguson. We always

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna We're sorry. I think what do

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Speaker 1: you think four five for him? No, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's five. I think he's three four. Okay, alright, So

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Speaker 1: back to again, back to Rookie of the Year. I

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Speaker 1: will say Hollywood. I mean you had Hollywood a head

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Speaker 1: of wick In in terms of your couch. I'll agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I don't like Hollywood. I'm on the Hollywood

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Speaker 1: day wagon, right Uh. Breakout player of the year, So

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Speaker 1: this is somebody like Gus Edwards. Last year we were

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Speaker 1: people weren't really talking about him. Who's the breakout player?

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Speaker 1: So you would say Marlin is too big of a

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Speaker 1: name already. Sure, I've said this. I think that he

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews doesn't qualify either. I think that that just

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Speaker 1: on Marlon. I think nationally he will be a breakout

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Speaker 1: player this year. Um, you started your guy Hayden Hurst.

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Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned it earlier. He is flying so

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Speaker 1: far under the radar right now. First round if we're

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Speaker 1: saying that he's he is a first round pick, but

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Speaker 1: he has he didn't do anything last year. But just say,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're trying to go deep under the

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Speaker 1: radar last year, I have a breakout player. You. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's impossible to say, like, oh, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the seventh round pick, like nobody would have ever said

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Speaker 1: Gus Edwards last yeah you know, yeah, you're going like right,

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Speaker 1: like I'm picking some guy on the practice squads started

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Speaker 1: going that deep right right, So he's yours. Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know he's not a bad one. I'll give you one

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Speaker 1: that's you're struggling. How about Patrick Karn't as a defensive player,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think different Patrick. I think

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Speaker 1: Patrick Kwasso. No, No, that doesn't count as a breakout player.

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Speaker 1: You're a former undrafted guy who said his first year

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Speaker 1: as a start, he broke out. Last year he did not.

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Speaker 1: He had he had a good season last year, but

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Speaker 1: now he just he was playing next to the best

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker and football who got the biggest richest inside

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Speaker 1: linebacker contract ever. Now it's this chance to go out there,

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Speaker 1: Chris Board would be a breakout player. You took Hayne Hurst,

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Speaker 1: the first round pick by SHO, but he didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything of the most productive players last was you can't

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Speaker 1: pick him as a breakout player. He was hurt. You're too.

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Speaker 1: If you're taking first round picks, I'm allowed to take

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. Fine, fine, all right? And last but

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Speaker 1: not least, surprise player. You now you biggest surprise player.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the conversation that you're trying to have. What

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Speaker 1: are you talking about? That is the conversation you had

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Speaker 1: breakout player on the list and biggest surprise players talking

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Speaker 1: about surprise player. I was talking about surprise. You don't

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Speaker 1: even know your own categories. What's the difference between this?

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Speaker 1: I don't know you made the list. You're right, let's

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Speaker 1: just combine those in the one. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I was thinking on that. All right, last one, because

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Speaker 1: this is getting low Ravens final record, and I want

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Speaker 1: the rest of the A C North as well. Eleven

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Speaker 1: and five for the Ravens. I like it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Steelers ten and six, Browns eight and eight. Wow

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Speaker 1: the hate or eight on the Browns. I think the Browns, Cleland.

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Speaker 1: I think that the Browns, you know. I think that

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Speaker 1: there's there's a difference in dealing with expectations and for

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Speaker 1: the first time that they now they have expectations. Um,

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Speaker 1: and it's a first year head coach. How do they

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Speaker 1: do if they're sitting there at one in three. Now

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Speaker 1: if look, if if the Browns start red hot, that's

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Speaker 1: I think the where we get problematic for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the league and the rest of the af C North.

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Speaker 1: And the Browns come out and go four and oh

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Speaker 1: in the month of September, then it's like look out

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Speaker 1: because now trains are rolling now, and now they think

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Speaker 1: they're good, they know they're good, and they're just gonna

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Speaker 1: keep rattling off wins. But if they start slow, I

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Speaker 1: think you could get into some issues um for them

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Speaker 1: as they try to deal with that. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to annoint them quite yet. Offensive line

535
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Speaker 1: is still an issue for them. So I'm going eight

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Speaker 1: and eight and then and then Bengals are gonna be

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Speaker 1: the worst team of the division. Say six and ten. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's more wins than a lot of people five and

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Speaker 1: eleven somewhere in there. Okay, I'll go with eleven and

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Speaker 1: five for the Ravens as well. I'm going ten and

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Speaker 1: six for the Browns, and I'm going nine and seven

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers. I'm just not ready to I'm just

543
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Speaker 1: not ready to complete the changing of the guard that

544
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Speaker 1: everyone else is. The Steelers. They're good in all but

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Speaker 1: you lose Antonio Brown, who's a really good player that

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Speaker 1: changes things dramatically. They've replaced Antonio Brown with Dante Moncreem. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I know everybody in Pittsburgh trying to convince themselves

548
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Speaker 1: that it's, oh, we're better off without the drama. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, on Sunday's Antonio Brown was pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: He was so so I just think they're they're fooling

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Speaker 1: themselves a little bit. And I get it. The Steelers

552
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Speaker 1: are just one of those teams. I think that they

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Speaker 1: can sustained like the Ravens are. They can. You can

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Speaker 1: have injuries and all that and you're still good because

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Speaker 1: you have good coaching, you have good foundation, you have

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Speaker 1: good depth, all that stuff. But yeah, I think the

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Speaker 1: Steelers take a little step back. All right, Before we go,

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Speaker 1: we got one more question. This comes question comes through

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Speaker 1: us from Thomas. Hey, guys, I love the pod and

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Speaker 1: I'm coming at you as your biggest Ravens fan from

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Speaker 1: Corpus Christie, Texas. My name is Tom and I just

562
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Speaker 1: had my first kid in December of last year, and

563
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Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could tell me who I

564
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Speaker 1: should focus on to try to make her new favorite player.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind that she doesn't have any idea what

566
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Speaker 1: football is yet, but uh, you know, something for her

567
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Speaker 1: to really cheer for, and a player that will be

568
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Speaker 1: on the team for a long time. Anyway, Keep up

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Speaker 1: the great work and go Ravens. All right, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the question, Thomas, So who should he make his daughter

571
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Speaker 1: a fan of? I mean, I think the easy answer

572
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Speaker 1: here's Lamar. Oh yeah, I mean, if you're gonna like

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Speaker 1: get a get the Kid jersey and him on the

574
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Speaker 1: pod Man most humble quarterback in the NFL. Just a

575
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Speaker 1: nice guy, great with loves the kids, doesn't love giving

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Speaker 1: autographs to the adult um uh, but just a good dude. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a big Lamar fan. Is that

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Speaker 1: a plug for the podcast from last week? Earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week, Oh, if you haven't listened to it, you

580
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Speaker 1: have to. That was a really fun interview with Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I think that your your kids will fall

582
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Speaker 1: even more in love with Lamar after this. Yeah, he's

583
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Speaker 1: an easy guy to root for. So thanks for the questions.

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Speaker 1: This week, Ricky and Thomas will beginning you guys t shirts,

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Speaker 1: and as always, you can email the show at the

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Speaker 1: Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Also next week,

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Speaker 1: do we have the John Eisenberg podcast coming? The John

588
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Speaker 1: Eisenberg Podcast is launching next Tuesday, which is really exciting.

589
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Speaker 1: What happened to that guy is the name of the

590
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: podcast where he's gonna talk to He already has talked

591
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Speaker 1: to former Ravens players about their careers after their lives

592
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: after football. Uh, and there's some really good stories. So

593
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Speaker 1: the first episode is on Jermaine Lewis, the former Ravens

594
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Speaker 1: wide receiver and returner who's really had some peaks and

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Speaker 1: valleys uh since his career ended. So uh, just really

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that from John Eisberg and make sure

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Speaker 1: that you tune in for that awesome. Uh. That's it

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Speaker 1: for us this week, Miami Week one to do the

599
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Speaker 1: big win again you already did? Do you double down?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Right, it's gonna be a big way.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it big when in Miami. See you

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Speaker 1: next week