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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode. I saw what you did.

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Speaker 1: My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Henderson and hey, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Just coming back to you to talk about films and

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Speaker 1: other things too. Danielle, what's going going on with you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? So much? So much? What can I talk about?

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Speaker 2: This going on with me? Maybe that's what I talk about.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird that, like, there's so much going

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Speaker 2: on with me, but I can't mention any of it

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Speaker 2: because it would ruin all of the build up for

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Speaker 2: the show I'm making, so like work is popping, but

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Speaker 2: I can't say anything about it because I want everything

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Speaker 2: to be a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Well, I gotta tell you. Our episode last week was

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Speaker 1: heavily redacted because we mentioned some folks that we're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to talk about, and it was there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of beeps, which I thought was very amusing. I

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Speaker 1: loved it.

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Speaker 2: But it's very funny. But it's like, you know, it's weird.

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Speaker 2: It's weird to be in a position where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm a goblin in the woods who writes, and now

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Speaker 2: suddenly I'm put in this position where and I'm a

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Speaker 2: loud mouthed and I can't say shit about fuck and

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Speaker 2: it's a real exercise in being zen that I never

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Speaker 2: wanted or asked for. But now I'm in it. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'm in it. But it's kind of cool,

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Speaker 2: Like I just I think it's one thing I can

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Speaker 2: talk about is that it's weird how much I like

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Speaker 2: my job, Like I really I like it, and I'm

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Speaker 2: good at it, and I don't think I've ever felt

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Speaker 2: confidence like this before, but I'm like, now I got this,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm good at this, I can do this. And

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Speaker 2: it's kind of strange to be like a black woman

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Speaker 2: in charge of something big and be like so well

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Speaker 2: supported by everyone, and then also be like I can

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Speaker 2: do this. However, that is quickly undermined by the rest

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Speaker 2: of my life, where I'm like, oh, I'm a disaster

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Speaker 2: and I can't do anything. So glad I feel that

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Speaker 2: at work because it is the only place I feel.

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Speaker 1: There are two shoes, you know, Like I'm just saying it,

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Speaker 1: like I mean a lot of times in life, like

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Speaker 1: something's real good, but then the other shit, the other stuff,

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Speaker 1: it has to fall, so.

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Speaker 2: That other shit filled shoe, that's it, right, Like the

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Speaker 2: other shoe was filled with shit. That's the saying, is

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Speaker 2: not like that's why it falls, ybe it falls because

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Speaker 2: it's full of shit. Yeah. One thing I do want

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Speaker 2: to talk about is kind of movie related, and it's

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Speaker 2: because of something that you posted a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: ago on Instagram that I cannot stop thinking about. Is

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Speaker 2: Brad Pitt has been doing so much for the promotion

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Speaker 2: of Bullet Train, and you posted something where Entertainment Weekly

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Speaker 2: was like, Hey, what's up with these wild outfits and

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Speaker 2: your behavior on the red carpet and he said, we're

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Speaker 2: all gonna die? And I couldn't. I can. I have

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Speaker 2: not stopped laughing about that for weeks. I might frame it.

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Speaker 2: I truly I love that dummy. I can't help it.

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Speaker 2: He's so hilarious right now.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I love that level of misery, at that level

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Speaker 1: of the game. I find I'm here for it. I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 1: don't sugarcoat this shit like we don't need it, we

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Speaker 1: don't care. Like, just be honest with us, Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 1: We just tell us if you think the world is

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Speaker 1: absolutely going to implode, and don't be shy, don't be shy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he is a man of the people, and

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Speaker 2: you can fight me on that. I know he's a bajillionaire.

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Speaker 2: I know he's a movie star. That motherfucker has like

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Speaker 2: Ozarkian misery in his bones. And he's like, don't forget

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Speaker 2: where I come from. We are all gonna die. Ps,

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Speaker 2: I'm Brad Pitt. We're gonna die. I just I cannot stop.

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Speaker 2: Every time I think it, which is multiple times a day,

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Speaker 2: I just break out into laughter. Now.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, when I posted that it was

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Speaker 1: from a actual reputable source, but I also didn't vet

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Speaker 1: it beyond the headline. I didn't go into the article.

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Speaker 1: So I was just like, this is a zeitgeist right here.

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Speaker 1: This simple screen grab that I'm going to post on

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Speaker 1: my Instagram stories is just this is all I need.

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Speaker 1: This is all I need to move forward in the day.

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Speaker 1: But I was like whether or not. He later went

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Speaker 1: I'd rather do than be a famous movie star. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he actually went on to say that,

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Speaker 1: but I just like the first part.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, I love the first part so much that

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Speaker 2: I also did not vet it, which is not like me.

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Speaker 2: Usually if I see something like that, I'll be like,

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Speaker 2: will think of for the rest of my life. Is

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Speaker 2: he is the I'm gonna wear lime green fucking leisure

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Speaker 1: Look. Sometimes the message arrives in a very quick and

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Speaker 1: effervescent way, like sometimes you don't need the rest of it,

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Speaker 1: Like the rest of it will just get you in

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Speaker 1: this like contextual black hole, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like the essence, the beauty of a thing

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Speaker 1: just move on to the next Instagram story of someone

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Speaker 1: falling down a flight of stairs set to a Jodasy

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Speaker 2: Otter like playing with a ball of yarn, or My

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Speaker 2: favorite TikTok that I've seen recently is a group of

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Speaker 2: friends who were all timing themselves to see if they

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Speaker 2: can outrun Michael Myers, and it just makes me laugh

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Speaker 2: so goddamn much. It's like them just walking and running

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Speaker 2: Michael Myers. It is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, do we have we clocked Michael Myers

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. I don't know if they've

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Speaker 2: clocked it so much as it's like we know he's

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Speaker 2: a slow motherfucker, Like Michael Myers is not bursting out

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Speaker 2: I'm sure somebody out there who was inured in the

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Speaker 2: and we should look that up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, who's the slowest horror movie villain?

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Speaker 2: Then the Ring, because that chick takes like nine hundred

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Speaker 2: gotta be the Ring, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know, my class of horror movie villains are the jumpers,

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Speaker 1: they're just like jump in like Chucky and Balal and.

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Speaker 2: Fucking Jeeper's creepers will yeah swoop. I love a jumper

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Speaker 2: and a swooper where he's like, I'm coming from the

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Speaker 2: about it. I love a jumper, but I love I

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Speaker 2: love a slow roll. I love someone who's not in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a that's the zombie sort of

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Speaker 2: It's psychological warfare. It's like, not only are you gonna die,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you so sad about it beforehand because

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Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I've seen the Halloween movies, even

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Speaker 1: the new ones. I guess I do think that. I

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Speaker 1: mean Michael Myers here, here's the thing about him. He

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Speaker 2: He is slow the way maybe right, this might be

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Speaker 2: why I really love Michael Meyer's presence, because I also

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Speaker 2: So I just appreciate him bringing that layer to the genre. Also,

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Speaker 2: just imagine him anywhere in any scenario, like imagine someone

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Speaker 2: Imagine someone at the gym on a treadmill walking that

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Speaker 2: made walking terrifying. You know how fucking scary you have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, him and Robert Patrick as the t one thousand

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Speaker 1: before he started running with the siser hands like he

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah Robert Patrick in general, because same in the faculty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't running. It ran. He did that one creepy

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Speaker 2: But otherwise he just stood around and just like lazily walked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know who else is not a runner and

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Speaker 1: It's kind of this like a drunk walk is leather Face.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's an ambler, and Leatherface is an ambler

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Speaker 2: where he's like doing a little dance he's having fun

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Speaker 1: Gotta be honest. At the end of the original Texas Chainsaw,

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Speaker 2: Oh right, he's an ambler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know if he could walk in

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Speaker 1: a straight line, to be honest, No, he's a country walker.

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Speaker 2: He's like I'm walking up a path to a hill

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Speaker 2: because I have to be able to meander. I have

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Speaker 2: to like, oh, look there's a bug, or like, oh,

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Speaker 2: like he's he's like distracted by the shiny object. Dude. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but I love that. If you if you take if

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Speaker 2: you take the chainsaw out of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

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Speaker 2: you take it out of leather Face's hand, he's just

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Speaker 2: like a wacky guy doing a dance on a sidewalk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. I mean, look, I if we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about gyms, I definitely think Michael Myers and

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Speaker 1: leather Face they're probably the you know, they're probably benching

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Speaker 1: and maybe are like a powerlifter type. But then you

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Speaker 1: got the runners who are a little bit more I

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Speaker 1: don't know, they're they're faster, but they don't have the menacing,

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Speaker 2: Runners are not as scary to me because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you're giving me no time to think about my own death,

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Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna have to take it. And running

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Speaker 2: in general, it's not scary to me. It's annoying to me.

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Speaker 2: Like when I see people running, I'm like, where the

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Speaker 2: fuck you go? What You're gonna do that to your

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Speaker 2: Like what the fuck are you doing? Like running is

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Speaker 2: so annoying to me that if I see someone running

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Speaker 1: Ooh my god, that sounds intense already.

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Speaker 1: That's hard because I've been to so many weird Southern bars.

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Speaker 1: Like so many weird Southern bars, there was a there

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Speaker 2: There are some gray bars in Memphis too, and Nashville.

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Speaker 1: work there during its heyday, like it's Hayday was just

433
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: before my time. But it was this place called Dottie's

434
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: and it was in this at the time, a real

435
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: rough part of town, and it was just like the Lamplighter.

436
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: It was like at the time. I was really young.

437
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: Probably not was I twenty one? Did I worn't there before?

438
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: That would be incredible.

439
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: I might have been like twenty one, twenty two. It

440
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: was some. It was Harry. It was real Harry getting

441
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: to the car and out of the car and you know,

442
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: like real bad, squirrely parking lot. But some of the

443
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: best depraved, fun, fucked up times happened at that bar. Yes,

444
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: when my friends would just come to see me work

445
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I don't know, I feel like between Alaska.

446
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: And the South, oh yeah, we have you and I have.

447
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: Probably seen a lot more than maybe people who haven't

448
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: been in those places.

449
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: We have covered some ground, that is for sure. There

450
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: is absolutely a bar if you're ever driving through Alaska

451
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: or driving to Alaska. I'm just gonna say, there's a

452
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: bar where in a town where you can do a

453
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: shot with a human toe in it, and if you

454
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: let the toe touch your lips, you get to drink

455
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: for free for the night. And there are patrons who

456
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: donate their toes after death, like you could take my

457
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: big toe. I want to be part of the legend.

458
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: There's also a bar I also have, and I wonder

459
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: if you have this, you like where my local bar

460
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: at one point wasn't wild, but again I made it wild.

461
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Sure.

462
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: So like when I lived in New York City and

463
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: I lived in Queens, there's a bar called the Irish Rover.

464
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: I lived two blocks away from it, perfect stumbling distance,

465
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: And the Irish Rover was two blocks away from my house.

466
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 2: One way two blocks away from my house. The other

467
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: way was a goddamn Neptune diner. So I could genuinely

468
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: get drunk and stumble down for a grilled cheese or

469
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: an omelet or some toast or whatever, and then stumble

470
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: my way back home. Yeah, very dangerous, delightful. And I

471
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: ripped it up in that fucking bar. It was one

472
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: of those bars where they had I had so much

473
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: fun there, and they had so much fun when I

474
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: was there that I drank for free all the time,

475
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: like just shots and just like here's have a guinness,

476
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: have some more shots, like just all the time.

477
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: So you're a legend, and that's what I love. I'm

478
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: not a legend, So I love two legends in order

479
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: to have a good time, because I swear to God,

480
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: it's like people like you, people like my friend Ben Chiefs,

481
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: So I think I've mentioned on this podcast, I'm gonna

482
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: probably mention him during your movie because yeah, he's a

483
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: big fucking Roadhouse fan. But yeah, people who come into

484
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: an establishment and just like really like light it up,

485
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's I look to

486
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: those people, because if it was left to me, I

487
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: would just probably have a few beers and sit there

488
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: and play the jukebox, maybe play some pool, but I

489
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't like get it going. I would just be like,

490
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm so much of a you know, like what's the vibe?

491
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: Let me maintain the vibe, like you're you're the opposite

492
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: of me, and like I was always two Now. I

493
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: don't know if this was something that you felt sometimes

494
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: when maybe when you were in rural Alaska going to

495
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: bars with toes with several toes in the drinks. But

496
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: like in the South, I always felt like, oh, if

497
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm coming into like a real like southern redneck bar,

498
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: I always felt this urge to sort of like show

499
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the people that I'm like not there, to be like

500
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm not some country politan as we might talk about

501
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: in my in my film. So the best way to

502
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: establish that is to go to the fucking jukebox and

503
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: play a song that they love and for me, for me.

504
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: The song that did that was laid Down Sally by

505
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: Eric Clapton.

506
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Hey I'm resting, don't you think you so long to

507
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: hold you? Holy shit? And you say you're not a legend.

508
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: You're saying you're not a legend. You walk into a

509
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: bar place that's me just I.

510
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Can be I'm I'm okay, Like we're cool, Like we're like,

511
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm here, I'm on your turf, like either that

512
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: or something from the Brand New Man album by works.

513
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: In Tono.

514
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: Turn Around Down. There's something in that area. But if

515
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: I had had more confidence, I would just be like, yo,

516
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: what's up, and like start pounding drinks and then you

517
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: become the legend. Like setting the music choice is sort

518
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: of like okay, that's fine, that's so. I just don't

519
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: get my ass kicked. But you it sounds.

520
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: Like you, and I'm like, who wants a shot? Whoever

521
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: wants one gets one? Yeah, and you two should be

522
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: making out, like I've put couples together. I have absolutely

523
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: told people to kiss, be like why are you making out?

524
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: Come on? I love that and they will. I get it.

525
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm always friendly with the bartender because I'm like, your

526
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: job is hard. It's harder than people think. I will

527
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: take that bartender like a motherfucker. But we also I'm like,

528
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: how's your life, what's up? You got a family, what's

529
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: going on? Like, just talk to them like they're goddamn

530
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: human beings because they are. Yeah, And I don't offer

531
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: them drinks because no one, no no bartender worth their

532
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: goddamn weight is drinks on the job. Yeah, like they're not.

533
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: Don't give them shots. They don't want They want your

534
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: fucking money and your respect. Yeah, don't give them shots.

535
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, they just make it really easy. Just be like,

536
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit down here and be cool. You guys

537
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: should be making out. Maybe we dance a little bit.

538
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I throw my bra on the ceiling. I don't know.

539
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: It depends on how many goddamn shots I've had. But I

540
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: will bring the goddamn party every time. And sometimes that

541
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: party is a small party, it's a quiet party. But

542
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: I am always going to have a good time. I'm

543
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a good time. I'm gonna have a good time,

544
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: and I want people to laugh and I want people

545
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: to have a good time around me. And I'll just

546
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: I gotta bring it, I gotta do it.

547
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: You're like a fucking Jaegermeister Cupid or something. I love

548
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: that shit, Like I see, that's the thing is that

549
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't have that. I don't have that within me.

550
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: First of all, the fact that you were getting free drinks,

551
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: it's already that's already legend status. Whereas, like I said,

552
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: it's very easy to put on you know, Bootscoop boogie

553
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: like everyone's liked. We listened to this all the time.

554
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you came in here and played this

555
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: song so that you know you can be here. But

556
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: you're not making people make out. You're not creating marriages

557
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: in as bar.

558
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: You can't ask for permission. You just got to be like, look,

559
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: this is what's happening, and you're either in or out,

560
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: and I respect your decision to be out. But I

561
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: came here to be this person, and that is who

562
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: I am. I went to, oh my god, this is

563
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: I probably should not even be telling the story in

564
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: a public forum.

565
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: But I should. Yes, I'm going to do it.

566
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Went to New Orleans with a friend of mine. We

567
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: were recording a travel podcast and went out to a club,

568
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: got rip shit like New Orleans. You can get so

569
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: drunk so fast, and I don't really drink anymore, so

570
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: I got real drunk, real fast. But it was a

571
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: fucking part It was one of those parties where like

572
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: the brass band was walking through the crowd. It was

573
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: a party for every everybody was having a party. I'm

574
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: out on the balcony looking down on the street. I

575
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: made friends with people on the balcony, like where are

576
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: you from? What's going on? We made buds and this

577
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: is the local bar. And I looked down and I'm like,

578
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: all right, two people on the street, and I'm like,

579
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: you guys are cute. You should be kissing. And sometimes

580
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: that's all the nudgs you goddamn need. And then they kissed.

581
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: They came into the bar and bought me drinks and

582
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: he was like, I've had a crush on her forever,

583
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: Like I didn't even know that was going to happen.

584
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, sometimes you just need the nudge

585
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: from a drunk black lady with freckles on a fucking balcony.

586
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: Oh then, god, the same thing. I'm inside, I'm dancing,

587
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: you know me, I don't have that kind of joy

588
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: in my heart. I don't dance. That's not the kind

589
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 2: of joy that I have within me. I was dancing,

590
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: That's how drunk. I was truly dancing, having a great time.

591
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: See another couple, another just a guy talking to a girl,

592
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 2: and I was like, she is so cute. Why are

593
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: you not making out? I'm like, I see you trying

594
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: to make out. Just make out with each other. And

595
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: then she turned around and kissed me, and he wanted

596
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: to fight me. He was like, I see your game.

597
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: I see what you're doing, and I'm like, I am

598
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: not doing anything, sir. I am drunk. I'm a drunk. Keepid.

599
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: What do you want for me?

600
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Yes?

601
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: What you're off for me? She didn't want to make

602
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: out with you. Sorry, you were clearly barking off the

603
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: wrong wow. But he was like, I see your game,

604
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm going to keep drinking and trying

605
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: to set people up. Yeah, and uh so sorry that

606
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: didn't work out for you, sir.

607
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: Well that was my next question? Is that like okay,

608
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: so yes, the mirth of you coming through here and

609
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: like creating all of these love connections, But have you

610
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: ever started a fight.

611
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: In a bar? I have never intentionally started a fight

612
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: in a bar to my knowledge. Sure, that was the

613
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: closest I came. That was the closest I came to

614
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: me being in a fight and starting a fight. After

615
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: watching these movies, I kind of feel like I want

616
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: to start a bar fight before it does, I kind

617
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: of do.

618
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: Let me tell you you are going first this week,

619
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: and it has been a hot, hot minute since I've

620
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: seen Roadhouse, Okay, And I just have to tell you,

621
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: I cannot believe the fighting in it is. It's basically

622
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: like this bar exists in this like alternate reality where

623
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: people literally just kick each other's ass for like the

624
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: time that they're there.

625
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: And I go there to kick ass.

626
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: It's so fucking funny.

627
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to get into it because I have

628
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: not seen this movie in goddamn ages, much like a

629
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: lot of the movies I haven't seen in a long time,

630
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: like for example, Three Minute Baby, where I forgot Heroin

631
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: was a big part of the plot. I forgot there

632
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: was a whole plot to this film. We'll get into it,

633
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: but I basically forgot there was that thick vein in

634
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: this film that I forgot about. And when I realized

635
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: what was happening. I could not stop laughing. My movie

636
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: was really in nineteen eighty nine. It was directed by

637
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: Rowdy Harrington. The screenplay is by r. Lance Hill and

638
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Hillary Henken, and my movie is Roadhouse. Somebody gets in

639
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: your face. I want you to be nice, don't be rude.

640
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: Ask him to walk, would be nice?

641
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: Help this gentleman to the door until it's time to

642
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: not be nice. Fucking roadhouse to fucking Roadhouse.

643
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: Look, let me get my one sentence out of the

644
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: way real quick, because we have so much to say.

645
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: My sentence synopsis of this film is in a world

646
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: where the bouncer is King Dalton rules them all.

647
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: Quite simply, the best one sentence synopsis you can ever

648
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: do for this album.

649
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: It is now. Look. We cannot get into the question

650
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: of does this film hold up? Is it good? We

651
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: cannot get into that this film is fucking iconic for

652
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: reasons that transcend taste and enjoyment.

653
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Like I have to say, Like I

654
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: just mentioned my friend Ben so He in his letterbox

655
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: review of this film, he wrote, this movie is proof

656
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: that straight men understand camp.

657
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Listen. I am loving the aspect of this podcast where

658
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: we are finding ways to make everything queer canon.

659
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: But I think in that way where it's like this

660
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: film is absolutely so over the top, yes, that it

661
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: is on par with like these movies that get talked

662
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: about as these like big camp classes like show Girls

663
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: or something. You know what I mean. It's like, I mean,

664
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: this is a fucking guy's show Girls. What a straight

665
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: man like will go to the movies and laugh and

666
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: scream with his friends too, you know what I mean?

667
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: This is their rocky horror. Yes, you have never gone

668
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: to a showing of Roadhouse and not seen people like

669
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: throwing fucking toilet paper at the screen and doing the

670
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: lines and like they're in character. Like this is absolutely

671
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: I love that description of it being straight men's camp.

672
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so over the top. So I'm just I'm

673
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: basically we're agreeing with you what you just said. It's

674
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: so crazy and it comes in so hot, so the top.

675
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: So just to understand a little bit about what this

676
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: movie is. Patrick Swayze rest In Peace King plays Dalton,

677
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: who is not just a bouncer. He is the most

678
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: well known bouncer in the United States. Because in this

679
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: world that.

680
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: Is a thing. It's just snorted, because it's that laughable.

681
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: That is the premise of this fucking movie. He is

682
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: so good at bouncing or cooling as he calls it.

683
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: He's the cooler, you're the bouncer, much like he's the DJ.

684
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: I'm the rapper. Yes, he's so fucking good at it

685
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: that people search the country for him so they can

686
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: hire him to clean up their bars. It is the

687
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: most absurd premise, and somehow it goddamn works. It fucking works.

688
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a moment where you're like, is it possible

689
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: that they could find an even one other dude that

690
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: doesn't swing for the fences when it comes to this

691
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: fucking bouncing shit, And they're like no. I mean when

692
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: you look at Patrick Swayzee, he just like kind of

693
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: walks in with this confidence, and you're like, he's probably

694
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the only one. This is why he's so you know,

695
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: he's so well known and people killed to work with them.

696
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: Oh, and don't forget in this movie, they find too

697
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: and those two are best friends, because you have to

698
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: be when you are the most famous bouncers in America.

699
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: You either have to be best friends or you have

700
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: to fight to the goddamn y. And they chose friendship

701
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: and we're all the better for it. And Patrick Swayzey,

702
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: look he is when we first meet him, He's like,

703
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna feather the hair, I'm gonna put on a

704
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: pair of ze Cavarici's, I'm gonna wear a loafer. I'm

705
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: not getting into this shit with y'all. I'm gonna tell

706
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: you to take it outside. I'm gonna trick you into

707
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: going outside thinking you're gonna fight me. Then I'm gonna

708
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: walk away. And he's like working at this very fancy

709
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: club that looks so nice, and he's driving a beater car,

710
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't understand this dude's life. I

711
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: don't understand. Kevin Tigey, who is a very well known actor.

712
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: You will know his face if you look him up,

713
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: comes in. He always plays a bad guy, and this one,

714
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: miraculously he's not. Because there are so many weird bad

715
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: guys to come that you're like, let's just let him

716
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: play it cool this time. And he is like, look, Dalton,

717
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: I bought this bar. It's called the double Deuce. Ha ha.

718
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: We're not even gonna get into the fucking quadruple meaning

719
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: of that one. It's called the Double Duce. Danielle Henderson

720
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: can't go there because she will make shit jokes all night. Yes,

721
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: and it's a piece of shit place. I would like

722
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: for it to be a nice place. Why don't you

723
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: come and clean it up for me? And Dalton who

724
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: was in the middle of stitching up his own wound. Wow,

725
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: this is a man who carries around his medical records

726
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: because he sliced up so much in the course of

727
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: this job that and he moves around so much that

728
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: he's like, I'll just carry these with me in a

729
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: little briefcase so you know what's up. And they show

730
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: him at one point, like he's showing a doctor his files,

731
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: and it's one of those like the things they show

732
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: you in a morgue where it's got like the front

733
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: of the person in the back of the person, like

734
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: the little cartoon outline, and it's just got slices everywhere.

735
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: Like this fucking wound, wound, wound wound.

736
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Like this dude, there's not an inch of his body

737
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: that hasn't been damaged in this job. And he still

738
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: does it and he's like playing it real cool. He's

739
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: stitching up his own arm and he's like, I'll come

740
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: it for like a five thousand dollars advands and five

741
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: hundred bucks a day, which in nineteen fucking eighty nine

742
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: he might have been being like, I'll do it for

743
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: a trip to the moon and a rocket to like

744
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: to a fucking Tesla rocket and a fleet of rolls royces.

745
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: Like he's getting paid to do it.

746
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: He's like a fucking farmer bro with those wages.

747
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he is, absolutely, and so he's like, I'll do it,

748
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: and then they're like, oh cool, look, let me give

749
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: you a plane ticket. He's like, no, I don't fly.

750
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: And this is when we start to learn Dalton's got

751
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: some rules. And as we've discussed in our Jason Statham episode,

752
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: there's nothing I love more than a motherfucker who makes

753
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: rules for how he's going to do a job.

754
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: Love a guy with three simple rules, three simple rules.

755
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: He's got three simple rules for his work. His one

756
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: simple rule for his life is I do not fly.

757
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: And it's all cool. So he goes. We learned that

758
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: he intentionally buys these beater cars because they are constantly

759
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: under attack from the patrons. He throws out of these.

760
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: There is a scene in this movie where he comes

761
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: out of the bar and there's a stop sign through

762
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: his window. Oh yeah, it's fucking beautiful. But he's like, yeah,

763
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: I'll do it. And he shows up in this small

764
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: one horse town and this bar is off the fucking wall. Okay,

765
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: here's what this bar has. This bar has an owner

766
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: who wears Bolo ties, which we'll get to. It has

767
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: the Jeff Healey Angel Eyes band playing behind chicken wire.

768
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: You have dream drug you have drugs being sold, drugs

769
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: being done, fights in literally every corner of the room,

770
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: and like men passed out on the stairs, And most

771
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: terrifying of all, if you look closely at this opening scene,

772
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: there is a man in high top nikes and a

773
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: pair of Jean's shirtless dancing in the pit. And I

774
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: don't know why he freaks me out the most, but

775
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: that dude is Wiley, and I don't trust him. And

776
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: he's getting the fuck down. He's getting down in an

777
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: outfit that you would see in like a nineteen eighties

778
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: rap movie, but he's in like a Southern pit of

779
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: a dive bar. I don't trust it. I don't trust it.

780
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: He was the one that had to come on and

781
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: play lay Down Sally, so absolutely a fucking cocktail table thrown.

782
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: In his head. Absolutely. I mean this bar, John Doe

783
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: from the Incredible band X is the bartender and he's

784
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: skimming tips. There's like Dalton comes in and he's just

785
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: playing it real cool. He's like, I's gonna sit my

786
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: coffee and watch how shit goes down here, so I

787
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: know what I got to fix. Yep, And he's watching

788
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Mayhem and the bouncers are in on it. The bounces

789
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 2: are in on it. They're like, let's let these underage

790
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: people in. Let's fuck these people in the fucking storeroom.

791
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: Like they're just like it is a ball for them too.

792
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: It's Mayhem. Everywhere. People are dancing on tables. I can

793
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 2: not we meet the world's weirdest pimp, this guy who's like, oh,

794
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: you like my girlfriend's boobs, you can kiss them for

795
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: ten dollars each. What is happening in this bar?

796
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: It's it's so like, imagine if you've not seen this movie,

797
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: imagine like the most over the top, macho, ridiculous late

798
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: eighties bullshit you can think of, and then just wadded

799
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: up in a ball thrown in the garbage can. Because

800
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: it's worse. It's like it's like an Andy Scenaris movie,

801
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: if they're if the focus was on the dudes and

802
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: not the women, if the women were not the private

803
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: investigators and the men were, it's so crazy, like it's

804
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: just it's just scenario after scenario of just like the

805
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: most insane shit.

806
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: Oh this is this is a bar where people are

807
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: getting windmilled. Do you know how intensely rowdy a bar

808
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: has to be for you to start seeing rest moves

809
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: inside of it? People are getting wind milled over the

810
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: head wind milled. It's blowing my mind. It blows my mind.

811
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: It's total mayhem. And all Dalton says is like, yeah,

812
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: I can clean this up, like I got this, I

813
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: got this, and he's cool about it and he comes.

814
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: This is where we also learned that, like there's a

815
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: legend that precedes Dalton. So we learn from like the

816
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: servers and as the word starts getting around that like,

817
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's Dalton. Dalton is legendary because apparently

818
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: in the vein of John Wick he killed guy once

819
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: he ripped his throat out with his bare hands. And

820
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: let me tell you, we will see that move later

821
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: in this movie. Chekhov's gun is popping in this fucking movie,

822
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: he rips a man's throat out and I'm like, again,

823
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: weirdest possible way to kill someone, and roadhouses going there

824
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. But so this whole premise is

825
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: that he's there to clean up this bar. It's an

826
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: absolute shithole. And he's also falling in love because when

827
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: he goes to the hospital to get all stitched up

828
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: after a particularly bad slice that he couldn't do himself.

829
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: He had to get it stapled, he meets Doc who's

830
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: played by Kelly Lynch, and Doc is from this town,

831
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: has moved away, has come back, and it is just

832
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: into this shit. Like when she comes to the bar

833
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: to meet him for like a pseudo date, he's brawling outside,

834
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: like he's rolling outside the door already fighting someone and

835
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 2: she's like hey, and she's like dressed like a picnic

836
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: table and she's just like hey, girl, she's into it.

837
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: And Dalton's like, hey, cool, why don't you come to

838
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: my barn? He actually like he gets a town. He

839
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: checks out the scene, and then he gets a place

840
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: to live. It's an apartment that's basically in the hayloft

841
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: of a barn, and it looks kind of like an Airbnb,

842
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: like influencer palace, like decreative Hay, and like it looks

843
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: very nice, but it has like no phone and no

844
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: TV and it's like in the woods. And I swear

845
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: to fucking God when he pulled up, I'm like, is

846
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: he rolling up to my house? Like? What the fuck

847
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: is happening here?

848
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Ah?

849
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: Like he basically rolls up to my house in the

850
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere and is like, I will take this room,

851
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: old man farmer, because I'm cool and mysterious and by

852
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: the way, I have a college degree in philosophy. Okay,

853
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: how weird can this guy get?

854
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: This is the part that really puts it over the top,

855
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: that brings it to the camp level for Thank You,

856
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: is Dalton has like a PhD in philosophy or something,

857
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: but it.

858
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: Fights with his body for a living.

859
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: Yes, so he's he's walking around going from town to

860
00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: town breaking up fights with his zen fucking chill. But equally,

861
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: is this genius that went to like NYU or something

862
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: or he like was he He was like, am I

863
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: wrong that he went to n Yu?

864
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely You're absolutely correct, And Milily, what's

865
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: the problem. What's the problem. He's a philosophical Tai Chie

866
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: doing professional, very famous bouncer. But I but in the count.

867
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: Okay, you're a writer. Explain to me what the context

868
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: of the story did he need to have a PhD?

869
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: Like?

870
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: Did that somehow make his fucking like three simple rules

871
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: shit more legitimate by him being like, well, the reason

872
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: why I don't clobber men to death is because I

873
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: have a PhD from n Yu.

874
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. There's no narrative reason for him to

875
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: have that. And let me tell you his Let me

876
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: tell you why. First of all, his three simple rules

877
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: are one, never underestimate your opponent. Two, take it outside

878
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: and free. Be nice. Nice, be nice. They insult you,

879
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: be nice, take it outside, be nice. These three rules

880
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: are as basic as possible. And if you look at

881
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: the story, he actually did kill a guy in self

882
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: defense in like Memphis or something because he was sleeping

883
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: with a married woman and her husband found out. Yeah,

884
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 2: and he went to jail for it for a little while,

885
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: and he hates talking about it and it's like a

886
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: real dark mark on his heart. So philosophy doesn't solve

887
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: any of that shit. All it does is explain why

888
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: he's next to a swamp doing Taichi.

889
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the PhD storyline is serving

890
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: simply to purposes Number one, that he's practices nonviolence to

891
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: the best of his ability when doing his bouncer job.

892
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh except when he absolutely and immediately breaks that rule

893
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: exactly inside.

894
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: You know exactly what he breaks pretty much immediately after

895
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: he says it, and that he gets to date a

896
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 1: doctor or I don't what als like sitting here going

897
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: would that doctor not date him if he didn't have

898
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: college thank you, Bair minimum and undergrad degree. I don't

899
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: know what is the point of you PhD thing?

900
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: So she's a snob and look, we're probably gonna find

901
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: out because, as we know, in the last couple of weeks,

902
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: it has been announced that Amazon is redoing Roadhouse and

903
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Jake Gillenhall is going to start in it. And I

904
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 2: guarantee he's not playing some fucking dummy in the woods.

905
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: He's going to have like a rocket science degree and

906
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: he chooses to bounce for like to balance out his

907
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: fucking chi or some shit.

908
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: Listen, if you if the reason why we had to

909
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: redact all that stuff in the last episode and the

910
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: reason why you can't talk about things in this episode

911
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: is because you are secretly working on the Roadhouse remake

912
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: for Amazon. We're ending this friendship, we are ending it.

913
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: If you haven't told me this information.

914
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: I would truly risk losing my job before I held

915
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: that information from that.

916
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Well, so you're telling me that they're going to carry

917
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: over the PhD storyline?

918
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: Oh of course. Do you think Jake Jillenhall is going

919
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: to be just just a bouncer? Oh my god, he's

920
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: gonna be Like I'm a bouncer from New York and

921
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to be doing this. I'm just so

922
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: good at it.

923
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Look far be it from me to say that you

924
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: couldn't be a PhD candidate well being a bouncer. I mean,

925
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: I fucking go on Wikipedia. I found out that the

926
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Pope was a bouncer.

927
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: Okay, true, my absolute favorite piece of research that you

928
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: have ever done for this podcast. We can end the

929
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: podcast right now. I'm so satisfied. Please tell this story.

930
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: Well as I do. I went down like a research

931
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: hole about Roadhouse, and then I started thinking about the

932
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: concept of famous bouncers, like I'm like, is there a

933
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: list of legendary bouncers that I don't know about?

934
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: Like?

935
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: Where are they getting this sort of absurd storyline from

936
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: and then showed up a Wikipedia article about famous bouncers,

937
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: and the first one was that the Pope, the current

938
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: Pope of the Catholic Church, was a bouncer before he

939
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: became a pope.

940
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: Every bit of information I get about this dude is

941
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 2: more wild than the lasts. I don't know anything about popees.

942
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: I know so much about this dude because the every

943
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: bit of information is like so confounding to me.

944
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's wild. I'm just saying. I mean,

945
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: like I have, I'm a lapse Catholic, but even I

946
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: have to pause to be like, oh, the Pope was

947
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: a bouncer. I guess that's cool.

948
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: This is also the title of this episode. The Pope

949
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: was a bouncer. Get right into it. The Pope was

950
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: a bouncer.

951
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: Duh, huh.

952
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: Fucking love this PhD motherfucking Dalton. I love that they're

953
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: trying so hard to set up this dichotomy that he

954
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: is worthy of a doctor. Like you said, is that

955
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: why they did it or what? I don't know. But

956
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: he is out here living his life, cleaning up this bar,

957
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: pissing off everyone in town because he's like I will

958
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: not tolerate riffraff, which is also the tattoo I have

959
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: right above my vagina.

960
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of, there seems to be a lot of like

961
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: male like the male pubic shots like that the Angelo area.

962
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: What is a ma?

963
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: What is that?

964
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: What a male?

965
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: What is that?

966
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 2: I mean a question for the age is that only

967
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: Pope Francis can answer. I bet he knows. He's like,

968
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: I've been around I've been around this world, and I

969
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: know the answer to what do you call a male?

970
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: There was a couple of shots. I actually think slazy

971
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: wasn't one of them.

972
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know why there's a couple of shots. So

973
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: many reasons. One Dalton never buckles his belt. He's like,

974
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: let me just pull the pants on and leave the

975
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: fly open and the bell hanging. Motherfucker wont to do

976
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: up a belt until it's time to go to work,

977
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 2: so it's always like, here's my pubes. The other reason

978
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: is that the second most famous bartender in the world

979
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: is Sam Elliott. Now, let me tell you a little

980
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 2: something about Sam Elliott playing Wade Garrett. He has never

981
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: been more disgusting and he's never been hotter. He is

982
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: absolutely fucking filthy, in this movie.

983
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: I thought the exact same thing. It was like repelled

984
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: and attracted at the same damn time, and I didn't

985
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: know why.

986
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: It is horrifying the gross to know this about myself.

987
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: He's the kind of dude where like, if you took

988
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: a popsicle stick and just ran it down his arm,

989
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: you would get like an inch and a half of dirt.

990
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: He's like, he's just literally filthy in this movie. And

991
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: so his hair is the perfect length. He has never

992
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: been hotter. I don't care about his gray hair, big

993
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: old mustache Lebowski era. I'm telling you, Roadhouse Elliott is

994
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: the hottest elliot.

995
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: There's so much going the fuck on with him.

996
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: They have the weirdest relationship and it's not even like

997
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: like it's friends, but he's like got kind of a

998
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: big brother vibe and he exists purely to give us

999
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: the backstory of Dalton killing someone.

1000
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this mixture of like there's a part of this, Like, Okay,

1001
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: so they're longtime friends. They've they've been through the shit

1002
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: together aka being bouncers at really rough bars across America.

1003
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Maybe he you know, was like looking after him and

1004
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: his dog when he was in prison.

1005
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1006
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: I don't know the relationship, but there are times where

1007
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: it seems very romantic. Now, I'm not saying that that

1008
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: straight men who are friends cannot have romance, do you

1009
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm trying, Okay, romantic friendship, of

1010
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: romantic friendship, okay. But but there was a time. There

1011
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: was a moment where this happens at some point in

1012
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: the film where Dalton introduces him to doc mm hmmm,

1013
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: and there was this moment where I'm like, are they

1014
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: all gonna fuck?

1015
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: Like? What is going on here? This is something I

1016
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: was watching this movie and I'm like, did I block

1017
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 2: out a threesome? It's possible I did. I was like,

1018
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, like twelve, when I watched this movie

1019
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: for the first time, I could have blocked out a threesome.

1020
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: And it's in the morning. It's like a morning threesome.

1021
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm gonna say this right now. I wish

1022
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: straight guys who are friends would fuck sometimes. I'm just

1023
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna throw that out there. I think the war would

1024
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: be better if that happened.

1025
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 2: Put that tattoo right next to the We'll not accept

1026
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: REFRAF tattoo on my body. I just wish straight men

1027
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: who are friends would fuck sometimes. Sage advice from your elders,

1028
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: get the fuck over with, Just do it, just try it.

1029
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Be a person in the world. Follow Brad Pitt. We're

1030
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: all gonna die. Fuck your friends.

1031
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: Listen. I'm just saying, like, you don't have to maybe

1032
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: act on it, but sit in the mindset that maybe

1033
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: once you would fuck your friend. I'm just saying it

1034
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: would if we just kind of gravitated towards that simple mindset,

1035
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: the world would be a kinder, gentler place. Now. Having

1036
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: said that, the Sam Elliot character is gross, Like he

1037
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: looks gross, he has that creepy vibe. And then he

1038
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: does this thing where he puts it He's got his

1039
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: hair that's like a bob or something. I don't know

1040
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: what this haircut is. Then at one point he puts

1041
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: his the perfect legs. He puts it in a half

1042
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: ponytail like and I swear to god, I looked at

1043
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: that and was like, oh my god, that was my

1044
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: hair in middle school. Like he had my hair in

1045
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: middle school.

1046
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: Middle school. You've come to this podcast with that.

1047
00:56:59,400 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: I got it that.

1048
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: I can't know now this podcast with that hairstyle that

1049
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: is a classic hairstyle, and.

1050
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: Like what am I doing? I can't decide if I

1051
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: like hate this or love this. What is happening?

1052
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: It's perfect, It's disgusting and perfect, just like Sam Elliott

1053
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: in this movie. It's gross. It's so gross. I mean,

1054
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I could properly express. And I love

1055
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: the costume department, I love the production designer whoever made

1056
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: him this disgusting hats fucking off, like you accomplished a miracle.

1057
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: Disgusting and hot yep, h so gross. Then look, I

1058
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: can go on about this movie forever. I'll try not to,

1059
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: but you just have to know two things. Two more things.

1060
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: One huge building explosion. At one point, he Dalton makes

1061
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: a friend who also happens to be Doc's uncle, and

1062
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: then they blow up his fucking business. And by they

1063
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean Ben goddamn Gazara and his funkies. Oh, he

1064
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: runs the town and he is here to take your money.

1065
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: He's getting bribes, and he's here to keep your bars. Disgusting,

1066
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: and he's here to sell you your liquor. And if

1067
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: you cross him, you're not going to get any liquor.

1068
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: And you're not gonna be able to have your bar

1069
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: and we're so sorry about that. And if you double

1070
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: cross him by coming to town Dalton and starting to

1071
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: date Doc who he used to be into, well then

1072
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: you're just completely fucked. Even though he's got women all

1073
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: over the place, like it's a fucking poison video.

1074
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Gazera. And I don't know if it's because

1075
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: I watch that movie The Strange One about fifty times,

1076
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: but like Ben Guzara scares the shit out of me normally.

1077
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, straight up creep straight up creepiness.

1078
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: And in this movie he is he is perfect. He

1079
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: is perfect to play this sadistic, fucking guy that's running

1080
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: town in like these terrible you know, bribe deals, like

1081
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: setting people's businesses on fire, getting fucking like dudes that

1082
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: look like they're you know in the Oakridge Boys to

1083
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: come and kill try to kill people. It's like he's perfect.

1084
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: And this is also a town where everyone has a

1085
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: huge knife. Like every fight that starts in near or

1086
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: around Dalton, they're like, and here's my knife, and Ben

1087
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: Gazara is just like, yeah, I don't even need my

1088
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: face is the knife.

1089
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: Yo. There's a scene in the movie where this dude,

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00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean because you know, there's non stop fighting in

1091
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: the bar. This dude that literally looks like weird Al Yankovic, yes,

1092
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: pulls a fucking switchblade out. I'm like, yo, the weird

1093
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Al guy's got a knife. That's how crazy this bar is.

1094
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: The dude in the Hawaiian fucking shirt.

1095
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Is strapped straight up huge knife. And the cool thing

1096
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: about Ben Gazara's character Brad Wesley. I don't know if

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00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: you noticed this moment when they go to his house

1098
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: and this is again I have seen Roadhouse countless times. Yeah,

1099
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: this is the first time I noticed that he is

1100
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: wearing a pair of slouchy boots with his jeans tucked in.

1101
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: This is the most terrifying man in town. Ps. He

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01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: is wearing the slouchiest pair of like ug boots, like

1103
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: ugsal boots with the jeans tucked in. And I have

1104
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 2: never noticed that before. And it looks absurd because he's

1105
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: not in a cold weather place. He's got a slouchy

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01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: a villain in a slouchy boot. That's Roadhouse in a

1107
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: fucking nutshell, I.

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01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: Hear you, And like, let me tell you something about

1109
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: the taxidermy, and this due's packed. Like I talked about

1110
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: this Like me and my best friend April, when we

1111
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: were doing sort of details, we talked about this because

1112
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: her stepfather was also a huge Taxidermy dude, and it

1113
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: scares the shit out of me.

1114
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: He's like it, I hate it too.

1115
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: But it's just also like the absurdity of like what

1116
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: a man wants to do with a dead animal to

1117
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: like prove that he killed it.

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01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: It's so gross and it's so out of place, like

1119
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: it looks like a New Mexico mansion but it's in

1120
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: like the I don't know, it's just very out of place.

1121
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: He's a menace to all of his neighbors. He is

1122
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: truly terrifying, and he is the villain of the movie.

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: And it all pops off at some point where you know,

1124
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: we have to see Dalton kill a man by jam

1125
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: in his fingers in the guy's throat because Ben Gazara's

1126
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: character is after him and it keeps getting worse and

1127
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: he's like on this fucking mission to get Dalton, and

1128
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: it all pops off and to an astonishing degree. And

1129
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to ruin any part of it. But

1130
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: there are so many reasons why this movie is again

1131
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: iconic for reasons that I cannot explain. It is does

1132
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: not hold up. It's not great, it is not great writing,

1133
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: it is not anyone's best acting, and yet it is

1134
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: fucking incredible. It's an amazing movie to watch.

1135
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: Totally. It is pure. It's just such a weird artifact

1136
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: from like a time in our history. Like I don't

1137
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: even know what to say, Like it is absolutely strake

1138
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: I camp and I I enjoy watching it as much

1139
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: as it is so like tasteless in a lot of ways.

1140
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, Like San Patrick swayzee rip

1141
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: a dude's throwed out on a on a river bank

1142
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: is somehow pleasurable, and I gotta like, I gotta admit

1143
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: that to myself.

1144
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: Again, Rest in peace. King Patrick Swayzey could do it all.

1145
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: He's like, I will do a fucking plea up your

1146
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: asshole and I will rip a guy's throat out. That's

1147
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: just who I am. He was truly incredible.

1148
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean this shit was like post dirty dancing.

1149
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: They even did a little like Otis writing song in

1150
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: the Villa with the Roman the romantic lead. You know,

1151
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: it's like he can do it. Get you a man

1152
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: who can do it all? Like I miss him. I

1153
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: miss him every damn day, trust me.

1154
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely gone too soon, true, truly recent pes. And this

1155
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 2: movie is wild and I can't believe I've talked about

1156
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: it for as long as I did. And uh yeah,

1157
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say go watch it, go and enjoy it,

1158
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: get into it, get into the Jeff Healey moment. I

1159
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: loved see Jeff healely again.

1160
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that angelized. It wasn't in the movie, but man,

1161
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: that was a middle school slow dance anthem.

1162
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh that was the jam. Yeah.

1163
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: No, this is absolutely the number one wild Bar movie

1164
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: for my money, Like you picked the best, the best

1165
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: of the best.

1166
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: So and I had a little Mandela effect moment with

1167
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: it because for some reason, in my memory, the bar

1168
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: itself was like in a swamp because I blocked out

1169
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 2: the tai chi of it. Yeah, so I'm like, oh,

1170
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: I thought the bar was in a swamp. Nope, that

1171
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: was just me remembering him doing tai chi and not

1172
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: knowing what tai chi was when I was twelve, So

1173
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 2: just putting the bar there. But yeah, thank you for

1174
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: bearing with me. I did not know. I did not

1175
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: know I would have this much to say about anything

1176
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: I've talked about so far in this fucking episode.

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01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Dude, I love it. I love it when you get

1178
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: this way.

1179
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: I came to this episode exhausted. I had no idea

1180
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: I was going to talk about any of this shit.

1181
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: Well now, I'll they don't call you the legend for nothing.

1182
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: I'll just say that.

1183
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm pumped, and I'm pumped to talk about your movie too.

1184
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: Oh shit. Well, I mean, listen, this is talk about

1185
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: a cooler. This movie is the cooler for your movie.

1186
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: Really.

1187
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's fighting and shit in this movie, but

1188
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not nearly as plentiful as it

1189
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: was in your film.

1190
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: But your movie's gonna bounce my movie, yeah, but.

1191
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: Just barely, just barely. So my film for the theme

1192
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: What Happened Last Night is a movie that was written

1193
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: by Aaron Latham directed by James Bridges from nineteen eighty

1194
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: It's called Urban Cowboy.

1195
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: You real Cowboy? What depends on what you think? Real cowboy?

1196
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: Now? Okay, So I've seen this movie a few times

1197
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: and I was telling people, like over the course of

1198
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: the week, like, oh, I got I'm watching an Urban

1199
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: Cowboy and they're like, is that the Matt Dillon movie No,

1200
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: that's Drugstore Cowboy. Is that the movie about the male

1201
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: sex worker? No, that's Midnight Cowboy. Is that the movie

1202
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: where Woody Harrelson and Keifer Sutherland go to New York? No,

1203
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: that's the Cowboy Way. And I can't believe anybody knows

1204
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: that movie. I can't believe how many people think Urban

1205
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: Cowboy is not the movie that.

1206
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: It is, absolutely, absolutely, but truly sending you a medal

1207
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: and a trophy for mentioning the Cowboy way in twenty two.

1208
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: That got me. That's how you know your a legend.

1209
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: You're a god damn pro.

1210
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, I sort of god. You and

1211
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: one other person are the only two people who have

1212
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: ever uttered the exist sense of that movie. We might

1213
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: have to talk about it. It's pretty bad. But yes,

1214
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm delighted to talk about Urban Cowboy because it's like this,

1215
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: it's like the perfect example of, like of this thing

1216
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: that we've talked about many times in the podcast, which

1217
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: is that it's like a movie that is a big

1218
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 1: becomes this like flashpoint in pop culture, and then Hollywood's

1219
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: scrambling to make a bunch of films almost exactly like it.

1220
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: And that's really what Urban Cowboy is is that it

1221
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: just changed a lot in pop culture while still being

1222
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: sort of like it's an it's like an okay movie.

1223
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it made money, but it wasn't this blockbuster,

1224
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: but the things that it did for, like fashion and

1225
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: music and that kind of stuff was much much more important,

1226
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: I think after everything was said and done. So the

1227
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: movie was based off this article that was written in

1228
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: Esquire magazine in the late seventies by Aaron Latham, who

1229
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: I think you know wrote the screenplay or at least

1230
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: co with a screenplay with James Bridges.

1231
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: And I didn't know that. I never knew it was

1232
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: based on an article.

1233
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the article was about this couple that met

1234
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: at this like crazy honky tonk right outside of Houston, Texas,

1235
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: and it was I think the larger message of the

1236
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: article was sort of discussing the like the new cowboy

1237
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: and what that might look like. Right. And then a

1238
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: man came along after the article was published, a man

1239
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: named Irving as Off, and he is the guy that

1240
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: manages the Eagles, but he bought the rights to the

1241
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: article to make a movie about it. Okay, And because

1242
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: this episode really is about crazy Bars, I had to

1243
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: talk a lot about Gillies, which is basically the center

1244
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: of what this movie is about, and it's the center

1245
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: of what the original article is about too. And it's

1246
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: so it was this actual bar named Gillies, and it

1247
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: was owned by these two guys. One was this like

1248
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: local sort of entrepreneur named Sherwood Crier, which, based on

1249
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: the research that I did about the film and about

1250
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: the bar, he seemed kind of more or less like

1251
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: this good old fashioned, like shady southern business guy like

1252
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: suspend like mm at Walsh and blood symbol, just like

1253
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: this like kind of you know, guy carries a gun,

1254
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: but where's like suspender, big suspenders, you know, like, But

1255
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: the Gillies was co owned by him, and then this

1256
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: country singer named Mickey Gilly Okay, And this Gillies was

1257
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: this huge place, like thousands of square feet. It had

1258
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: like live bands and dancing and games, and it just

1259
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: was like this place where a lot of the locals

1260
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 1: would hang out right in town and they would get wasted,

1261
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: party fight, etc. So there's this documentary that I watched

1262
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: called it was called Urban Cowboy, The Rise and Fall

1263
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: of Gillies, And so it was like really interesting because

1264
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: it talked about the bar and the people who hung

1265
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: out there, and they call themselves Gilly Rats. They were like,

1266
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, basically people that just like lived at the bar,

1267
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of them. Were actually in

1268
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: Urban Cowboy the movie, so that was kind of cool.

1269
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: But the movie was based off of, like I said, this,

1270
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: like real life couple who were patrons of Gillies and

1271
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: those people were played by John Travolta and Deborah Winger.

1272
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: Okay, eighties royalty.

1273
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: Royalty Now, look truly, John Travolta in this era was

1274
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: pretty much royalty. He was a giant fucking star, like

1275
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: late seventies, early eighties, you're talking like Greece, you're talking Saturday.

1276
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he was like a fucking superstar. He was

1277
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: like Brad Pitt, but not as realistic. I don't know,

1278
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: he's not giving us the real shit. And you know,

1279
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: according to the documentary, you know, a lot of the

1280
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: locals were like, Okay, John Travolta's gonna come down to

1281
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: Texas and play this like working class guy, guy that

1282
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Speaker 1: works in the oil rigs. No, there's no way that

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01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: this guy can nail this. But a lot of work

1284
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 1: went into making this film as authentic as they could.

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: And part of that was, like John Travolta and Debor

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Speaker 1: Winger were hanging out at Gillies and like with the

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Speaker 1: locals before they started shooting. And I read somewhere that

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Speaker 1: like Travolta listened to tapes of the screenplay that were

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Speaker 1: being that was being spoken by people from Texas so

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Speaker 1: he could get that accent.

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Speaker 2: Right. Oh man, Look, the fact that you did research

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 2: already blows my movie out of the water. The fact

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 2: that you did research that is interesting and exciting. I

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01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: should not have spoken in this episode at all. Let

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01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: alone go first. I'm so impressed by this, and I

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01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 2: love learning these facts. I'm a fan of the show.

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01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: I love learning facts.

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01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, But I am somebody, as you said

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01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: last episode that read an oral history of sant Ambles fire.

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: So that's just me. You're the legends. I'm the one

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01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: that reads the oral history of sant Ambl's fire.

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01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 2: So there, you're you're the cooler. I'm the bouncer.

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01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: But like so, when all of a sudden done, you know,

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01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: urban Cowboy, like I said at the beginning, had this

1305
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 1: huge influence on culture. It was like it kicked off. Basically,

1306
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: this entire resurgence of country music and fashion, country fashion

1307
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: in like thean eighties, which you know, it's like seeing

1308
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: the cowboy hats and the bolo ties and the prairie dresses.

1309
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: It's so weird because I remember being a kid and seeing,

1310
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: you know, just like John Cryer from Pretty and Pink

1311
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: and a bolo tie at the prom. And to know

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01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: that like in some way was probably influenced by like

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: what you know, in the wake of sort of what

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01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: Urban Cowboy had done is crazy, like absolutely.

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01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's a bolo ties all over my

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01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 2: movie influenced by this. And did you have a Holly

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: Hobby doll?

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01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, of course.

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01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying it here now, Holly Hobby influenced by Urban Cowboy.

1320
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: And I know you're gonna come at me and be

1321
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: like that bitches exists. This is nineteen fifty four. I

1322
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: don't care. She wouldn't have sold as much as she

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: did if Urban Cowboy hadn't come out.

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01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: Listen, she was on the mechanical bullet Gillies and you know.

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01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: It, Thank god run Holly Hobby had skills.

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: But I think for me, the part that I love

1327
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: the most is that it created this whole sort of

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01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: like pop country movement because the soundtrack. The soundtrack was

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01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: fucking huge, huge when it came out, and it and

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: it basically, you know, like the music from the from

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01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: the movie and the people that were in the movie,

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: like Mickey Gilly was in the movie. He ended up

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01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: having this entire reinvigorated country career after the movie came out.

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: And you know, it's that thing where like Bonnie Raids

1335
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: in the film, Charlie Daniels was in the film, like

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's all like the guy that's saying, is

1337
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 1: that Johnny Lee looking for love and all the wrong places?

1338
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: Come on, yes, come on, it's that like islands in

1339
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: the stream looking for love and all the like that

1340
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: was So I remember that from childhood so much. It

1341
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: was all over the radio dominated. Yeah. So I'll just

1342
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: give you some simple, real simple beats of urban cowboy. Okay.

1343
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: John Travolta plays this character named Bud Davis. He's just

1344
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: moved from his farm in rural Texas to the city,

1345
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: which is Houston, right, and he's working on this oil

1346
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: refinery or these oil rigs with his uncle Bob. Okay,

1347
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: and one night, Uncle Bob and his ant Koreans take

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: them out to their favorite bar, and it's Gillies. It's

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01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: the bar Gillies, and it's actually called Gillies. It's it is.

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01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: The character is the same, right, and the scene of

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: them going into Gillies for the first time is one

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: of my favorite favorite parts of the movie. First of all,

1353
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: they walk in. There's guys punching each other right in

1354
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: the front door. When they walk in, people are hollering,

1355
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: there's a band playing, people are dancing the two step

1356
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: and getting drunk, and it's like crazy. Now, it's not

1357
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: roadhouse crazy, but.

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01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 2: It's rowdy for sure.

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01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: And like I said, by all accounts that was Gillies

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: to a tea. It was rowdy shit, right. And so

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: Bud's there, He's there for fucking ten minutes and he

1362
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: ends the night in a damn threesome with Jerry Hall

1363
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: and her sister.

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01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: Inexplicable.

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: Inexplicable, his first night in town and he's in a threesome.

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's wild. And from s neleus to say,

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: he's he's a Gilly rat. After this, and at some

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01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: point he meets one of the regulars in the bar.

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: Her name is Sissy. She's played by Deborah Winger, and

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01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: I have to I have to stop and talk about

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: how I think Deborah Winger in Urban Cowboy is probably

1372
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: one of the hottest women to have ever lived, totally

1373
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion. I like her look in this movie

1374
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: is fucking amazing. Like her tight wranglers and these like

1375
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: really tight like spaghetti strap with no bra on.

1376
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: Yep.

1377
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: And she's got this like curly hair coming out of

1378
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: this cowboy hat. And I swear to God, if I

1379
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: could pull off that look at all, I would do

1380
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: it every day of my life.

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01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: You can, and you should start going to work like that.

1382
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: You don't want to see me in that side of

1383
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: top I'm this is telling you right now, you don't

1384
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: want to see it. And I and I can have

1385
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: body confidence and still say that at.

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: The same time. Absolutely, And look she in this film.

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: I think part of the appeal is that she is

1388
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: and this is on the heels of second weak feminism. Yeah,

1389
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: she is not taking shit from anybody, that's right, Yep.

1390
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 2: Her toughness is part of the allure.

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. And she I mean, that's the thing. She's a

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01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: she's a firecracker man, and she's got a sassy mouth

1393
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: and she wants to do and try everything and she

1394
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: doesn't want a man to tell her otherwise. And you know,

1395
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: here's the here's the dilemma, as you will probably figure out.

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: So they meet, they they meet at Gillies. They end

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01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: up two step and are looking for love and all

1398
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: the wrong places and it's over like from jump. They're

1399
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: hooked on each other. And they're also the kind of

1400
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: people who they're the kind of couple that gets into

1401
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: a fight and a diner one one night, and then

1402
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,480
Speaker 1: the next scene they're getting married exactly.

1403
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: And have you ever known that couple?

1404
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: Uh huh oh yeah, like in the in the in

1405
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: your twenties, that's like every couple.

1406
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: It is so bizarre to me because I've known that

1407
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: couple too, and it's like, after a while you have

1408
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: to step out of trying to help or be an

1409
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: ear or even be a friend because you're like, oh,

1410
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: this is what turns them on. Yes, Like they love

1411
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: to wrestle.

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01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: There is a reason for the season. Absolutely, And I'm

1413
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: just like, okay, well, don't try to don't try to

1414
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: counsel these people at all. Just let them, let them

1415
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: figure it out, and you hope they don't kill each other.

1416
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. But look, Okay, So

1417
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 1: the wedding scene, the wedding photo scene is my favorite

1418
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: scene in this film because they got these big eighties

1419
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: wedding dresses, like all the Bridesmaser and mint green. And

1420
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: then you're like they're taking photos and then you're like realizing,

1421
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: wait a minute, did they get married at Gillies? That's

1422
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: they're taking photos there. They must have got married at Gillies.

1423
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 1: They got married at a bar, so that it's it's

1424
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: wedded bliss for them. They buy a trailer and they

1425
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: move into a trailer together. And what ends up happening

1426
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: is that, in order to cut down some of the

1427
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 1: fighting at the bar Gillies and sALS this mechanical bull okay,

1428
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: and the mechanical bull quickly becomes the center of everyone's

1429
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: drama in this film.

1430
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 2: Oh, it becomes the reason people fight.

1431
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: Okay. And so what ends up happening is this really

1432
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: scary ass dude named West High Tower who is played

1433
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 1: by the actor Scott Glenn. Okay, he comes to town

1434
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: after he's been released from prison, and he's essentially the

1435
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,919
Speaker 1: man in black. He's literally wearing this like black mesh

1436
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 1: fetish gear top and this big black cowboy hat and

1437
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: he has the entire place fucking shook at. Like they

1438
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 1: know he was in the rodeo, he was in prison.

1439
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: He rode the rodeo in prison, and he can just

1440
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: really ride the mechanical bull, and he's just like this

1441
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: scary kind of violent dude, okay, and.

1442
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 2: He legend, legend precedes him.

1443
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: The legend, as we've talked about. So here's the thing

1444
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: Bud is looking at this situation, and because the biggest

1445
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: issue is that Budd is cocky, he's young, you know,

1446
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: and he's like, fuck this guy. Actually, I'm gonna be

1447
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: star of this mechanical bull. Like I he is a

1448
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: mess of like machismo and arrogance, and so he wants

1449
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: to fucking get this guy out of here. But the

1450
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 1: other thing, too, is that he forbids Cissy from riding

1451
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: the bull, which, like we said, she wants to do it,

1452
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: she wants to try it, and it's it's just total

1453
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 1: misogyny soaked bullshit.

1454
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 2: Of course.

1455
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: But then you know, it ends up turning on him

1456
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: because she finally does ride the bull, because she does

1457
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: what she wants and she's aided by the man of

1458
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: black West High Tower, and Bud fucking loses a shit.

1459
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 1: They separate. I want to remind you at this point

1460
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: that they have been married for one.

1461
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: Week, like a week exactly.

1462
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: They've already separated after one week, and I mean it

1463
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: is like they're both going home with other people. Cissy

1464
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: ends up, like you know, starting to date West High Tower,

1465
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: and then Bud meets this lady from like he meets

1466
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: this lady at Gilly's one day to named Pam, and

1467
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: she's this like fancy, like read a coolidge looking lady

1468
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: from this the big city. She's like a country Politan lady.

1469
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: A country Politan.

1470
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: She's like a fancy country lady from the city. And

1471
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: so what ends up happening is that now they're separated,

1472
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: they're dating other people. And then it gets announced that

1473
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be this five thousand dollars bull riding competition Achillies.

1474
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: And look, I'm not gonna deny that is a little

1475
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: silly that this entire movie fucking hinges on a mechanical

1476
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 1: bull and that people are like acting as if they're

1477
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: training for the Olympics trying to win this contest. Okay,

1478
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:39,879
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so funny.

1479
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: It's so funny, new listen. Have you ever ridden a

1480
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 2: mechanical bull? Hell?

1481
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: No, I have never? What Okay, y'all don't know me

1482
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: that well. But I'm built like an orangutan basically. I

1483
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: have long ass arms and short asla. I probably could

1484
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: even wrap my legs around the Like I'm like, I'm

1485
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: sure like I'd go flying off that thing in five seconds.

1486
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 2: It is. It is harder than it looks. I will say, again,

1487
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: are you telling me what one? Fuck?

1488
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1489
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: I rode one in Tennessee another bar sore, Holy shit,

1490
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 2: And it's goddamn harder than it looks. Yeah, and it

1491
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: is not fun to be thrown off of them. And

1492
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 2: watching this movie, I'm like, Sissy actually can do it.

1493
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: Well, And like there's a lot of like a lot

1494
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: of conversation about the tips and tricks to a mechanical

1495
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: bull ride, and it's like it's all thighs. You gotta

1496
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: have the thighs and you gotta be able to like

1497
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: squeeze and hold on and stuff. And I just don't

1498
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: think I'm built that way. I not a bull. I

1499
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: couldn't ride a bull, period.

1500
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 2: It's like a horse, maybe a horse. Give me a mechanical,

1501
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: but wise horse. We could talk.

1502
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: Give me if there is a chanical donkey, I would

1503
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: maybe a mule, a pac tee mule, I could maybe

1504
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: do that, but not a bull. But look at I mean,

1505
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: obviously one of the most famous scenes in the stories

1506
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: when Sissy gets on that mechanical bull and I told

1507
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: you she was hot, but she is white hot.

1508
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: In that scene, nobody was prepared, nobody was ready for

1509
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 2: the moment.

1510
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: Yes, And according to the doc that I saw, basically

1511
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: the women at Gillies were like, oh yeah, we used

1512
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: to fucking do that shit all the time, and we

1513
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: had to teach Deborah Winger how to like fuck a

1514
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: mechanical bull basically, which I think is amazing.

1515
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh good, But you know.

1516
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: So, like I said, so there's like this it is

1517
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: like a sports drama about the mechanical bull. But then

1518
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: it's like the movie is really more about Sissy and

1519
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: Mud and just this like they're that couple. They that

1520
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: tumultuous couple, and you know, obviously the I'm not going

1521
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: to give away the rest of the thing, but it's

1522
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: like they got to find their way back to each other.

1523
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: Let's get serious. They're badly paired with the crazy West

1524
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: High Tower, scary dude in the country Politan Pam. They

1525
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: got to find it their way back to each other.

1526
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: And I mean, like I said, this movie to me

1527
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: is like it is really like all Ambiance and it's

1528
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: like the music makes me nostalgic. I mean, look, I

1529
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: did not grow up with parents who would meet at

1530
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: a place like Gillies, But I grew up in the South,

1531
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: and I'll just tell you, you definitely knew people who

1532
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: were like grown up versions of Sissy and but like

1533
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: they totally they were people's like your friends's parents or something,

1534
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that still went down to

1535
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: like Elk's Lodge and like got drunk and you know

1536
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: they've been married for like twenty five years or whatever.

1537
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: And the thing about too, growing up in the South

1538
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: is that you do there was so much country music

1539
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: that's just like in the ether, Like even if you're

1540
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: not into country music, it's like you still know a

1541
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: couple of things because you're just just by nature of

1542
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: growing up here. And like I mean, they used to

1543
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: play the Devil went down to Georgia at the fucking

1544
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: Braves game during the seventh inning stretch.

1545
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: We have an anthem and it is this I knew

1546
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: the Devil went down to do I fucking New York

1547
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 2: in the country and I new Devil went down to Georgia.

1548
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 2: That's how much people played it.

1549
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. And it's like, I mean that part

1550
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: of the movie too, where Charlie Daniels is like he

1551
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: sets up the sea the bull riding competition scene, it's like,

1552
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: you know, people walking into the bar getting their number

1553
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: for the contest, and then it's like Charlie Daniels doing

1554
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: his Devil went down to Georgia speeches and I'm like,

1555
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: this song, this song is is forever present.

1556
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: You know, it is fucking fraud and it is. It's

1557
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 2: just it's it's a really I haven't seen this movie

1558
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 2: in a long time, and I was surprised at how

1559
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 2: like it's it's a violent in a way Roadhouse. Roadhouse

1560
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 2: isn't so it's like it's Roadhouse is like comically violent.

1561
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: It's over the top violence. And this violence is like

1562
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 2: couple violence and partner violence and like bar it's bar brawling,

1563
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: but it's one on one brawling, and it's like it's

1564
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 2: very it's very intense. It's a very physical film. And

1565
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: I forgot that. I forgot that it wasn't all just

1566
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 2: like bull writing and fun and dancing. It was like

1567
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,919
Speaker 2: the actual narrative of the story was really intense.

1568
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, like you know a little bit

1569
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: of a trigger warning maybe about you know, partner violence

1570
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, but it's it's that thing where like, I mean,

1571
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: there are times in the movie where you just are like,

1572
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:49,440
Speaker 1: she's just being physically assaulted by the men in her life. Yeah,

1573
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: and as much as she is that like sort of

1574
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: like feminist character, the one that can't be told what

1575
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: to do, you know that she's gonna do her own thing.

1576
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the men are so stuck in

1577
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: this like fucking toxic masculinity mode that they have to

1578
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: figure out a way to shut her down, and it

1579
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: usually means beating her ass. And that sucks. I mean,

1580
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: it's like sucks. It's hard to watch, you know, especially

1581
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: the scene with her and and Wes, when you know

1582
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 1: he basically fucking she comes home and he is literally

1583
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: fucking a woman in the back room and then he's

1584
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: like make me some food. Like he's like, listen, you

1585
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: sign up for this. I can't be faithful to one

1586
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: woman make me dinner, and she's just like, fuck you,

1587
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: and he's just like slamming her, grabbing her hair and

1588
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: throwing around the kitchen, and it's just rough. It's just

1589
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: really rough.

1590
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: And it's also it's a reminder too that, like, you know,

1591
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: not to bring everybody down. But it was a reminder

1592
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: in a way that I needed to see that, like

1593
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: she was not a character who would ever call herself

1594
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 2: a feminist, even though she absolutely was, and you're reminded

1595
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 2: of like women just actually standing up for themselves and

1596
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: saying this is what I want to do was not always.

1597
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: It's not easy now and it certainly wasn't easy then,

1598
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: and it's always comes with some bullshit, and it comes

1599
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 2: from these men who simultaneously desire you and want to

1600
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 2: squash you so that you will stay with them or

1601
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 2: that you will be with them, and so it's really

1602
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just really I looked at this

1603
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 2: character a little bit differently than I have in the

1604
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: past and just saw something in her that was so

1605
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 2: defiant and I liked seeing that because she's living in hell,

1606
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 2: like she's just and again, this is a world where

1607
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars would alter her life permanently, like it

1608
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: would change so much shit for her. And again, don't

1609
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 2: want to give away the ending much like Millie, but

1610
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: like there's something just very interesting about where the movie

1611
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 2: ends up and how you can see the story continuing

1612
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 2: beyond where they end the movie.

1613
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I mean the documentary, you know, interviews

1614
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: the real couple that the movie was based on, and

1615
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: I'll just say they aint together anymore, so I mean whatever,

1616
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: But it's said thing where I'm like, yeah, I mean,

1617
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: it's obviously really complicated because it's hard to sit in

1618
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: the space where you're watching that part of the movie,

1619
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: but then you also get so much joy from that

1620
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: sort of like the fashion and the music and the

1621
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: kind of like the vibe of it, because there is

1622
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: that little like darkness to it too, but it.

1623
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: Is joyful because I think then watching her claim her

1624
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 2: life becomes more joyful to me, where it's like, oh,

1625
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 2: she's going through all this shit, but she's not willing

1626
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 2: to rest in that and just like take it. She's

1627
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: like still gonna fight for hers So there is something. Yeah,

1628
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: there's like a layer of defiance that I really like.

1629
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 2: And I noticed this time around that I really picked

1630
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: up on and it's just it is definitely it's more

1631
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 2: of a slice of life cultural movie than Roadhouse is.

1632
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: For sure, her like Onehouse doesn't saying anything about anybody

1633
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 2: here up pure camp, right, pure camp, pure chaos. But

1634
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 2: I like that urban cowboys talking about like a slice

1635
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: of life. It's like a place, like a real place

1636
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 2: and real people, and they put the effort into talking

1637
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: about real people and a real moment. And I think

1638
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: that it's cool that it became like a cultural phenomenon.

1639
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 2: And you know, again influence, like you said, I completely agree,

1640
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: influence so much of culture then and now.

1641
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And you know, if you want to track down

1642
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: this documentary, I think it was originally made my CMT,

1643
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: the Country Music Television that's the network, but it was

1644
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: on Amazon to rent, so you know it's available. I

1645
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: mean to me, it's like it just kind of gives

1646
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: you a little bit more information about the bar. And

1647
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: the bar and Gillia's got burned down. That's like a

1648
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: whole other it's a mystery. It might be like a

1649
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: true crime, if you know what I mean. But it's

1650
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: that they got burned down and then like but then

1651
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 1: they they still sell like Gillies merch like if you like,

1652
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: there's merch you can buy a Gilly shirt online. It's

1653
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: like it's like this phenomenon even though it's not a

1654
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: place where people can go anymore. But like, yeah, I

1655
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: mean it's uh. The bar and the bull are the

1656
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: kind of stars of the.

1657
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: Film, to be honest, right, The iconic moments, the iconic

1658
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 2: moments in this movie are the bar in the bowl

1659
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: for sure, right.

1660
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I think I love most about

1661
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: these two movies together, is that they're like wild bar movies.

1662
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 1: But like it's that thing where like it's the the

1663
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: it's almost like taking a physical space and it's it

1664
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 1: becomes a character in the film. Yeah, you know, it's

1665
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: like the double Duice Gillies. It's like a character in

1666
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: the film.

1667
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: So I love I love this so much. This is

1668
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: truly the wildest episode we've done in a long time.

1669
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I love it too.

1670
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: As you know, I don't do drugs. I feel like

1671
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 2: I've been on drugs the whole time. I don't know

1672
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: what I said. We will listen back, and I know

1673
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 2: y'all will tell me what I said. Listen, But it's fun.

1674
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: It's the end of summer. We went out with a

1675
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: fucking bang, had to go out with a hot one,

1676
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 1: had to go out with a hot one. So listen.

1677
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: We do not have an episode next week. We have

1678
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: a bonus episode coming out on September eighth, so look

1679
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: out for that. But Danielle, do you want to give

1680
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 1: the movies for the next main Feed episode?

1681
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 2: I will, and this is for our next episode that

1682
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 2: comes out in September thirteenth. And our films are Ordinary

1683
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 2: People from nineteen eighty and a Clockwork Orange from nineteen

1684
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: seventy one. Good lord help us, good luck with that one.

1685
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine watching those two movies together was

1686
01:32:59,600 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna have.

1687
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: Oh not only imagine it, you about to live it

1688
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 2: a so get into that shit. We did this to ourselves,

1689
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 2: We certainly did so.

1690
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: If you want to email us, as always, we're at

1691
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,040
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1692
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,679
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1693
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1695
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1696
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,679
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1697
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1698
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,360
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1699
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,519
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Speaker 2: you dear listener, who have been with us since the beginning,

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Speaker 1: Saint Elmo's Fire. Just write Saint Elmo's Fire and give

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Speaker 2: I will truly fucking croak if someone leaves a five

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, danielis always the legend. It's been a fucking

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Speaker 1: pleasure doing this podcast.

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Speaker 2: With you, the bouncer, the cooler. It's always a fucking blast.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you so much for humoring me

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Speaker 2: as I truly lost my mind during this episode.

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Speaker 1: You are very welcome me ho.

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Speaker 2: Me hoo, You're welcome me holing. This has been an

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Speaker 2: exactly right production, produced and mixed by Casey O'Brien. Our

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Speaker 2: theme song is by Tom bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart, Caringkle, Gareth and Daniel Kramer.

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