WEBVTT - #782 Packers Unscripted: Rolling along

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you hear from our studios at lambeau Field, Wes. One

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<v Speaker 1>week of training camp is in the books, and the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest news of training camp so far occurred between our

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<v Speaker 1>last show and this show. And of course I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about quarterback Jordan Love signed his finalized contract extension. He

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<v Speaker 1>was back out there for Saturday's practice, the first padded practice,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's been involved in two practices so far. With

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<v Speaker 1>the pads going on, it's nice to see sing this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of getting back to normal, right QB one is

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<v Speaker 1>out there, he's running the show and here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the ending that everybody wanted to see, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the ending that we got. And before we

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<v Speaker 2>go into all the x's and o's, because there is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of this and we saw it over the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend in these padded practices, just what it means to

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<v Speaker 2>have number ten back out on the field. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to step back for a second because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the interviews I've done with people, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that have come up. Everybody's asking about the x's

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<v Speaker 2>and o's and all that stuff. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>pull it back for two seconds and just appreciate what

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<v Speaker 2>this moment represents. The Green Bay Packers made Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>one of, if not at the if not the most

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<v Speaker 2>compensated quarterback NFL player in this league's great illustrious history.

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<v Speaker 2>Four years ago. He was the first round pick that

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Goodikuns drafted up, traded up to draft, had to

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<v Speaker 2>come in and follow in the shadows of Aaron Rights

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<v Speaker 2>last summer. The amount of pressure that was on this

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<v Speaker 2>young man to succeed Aaron Rodgers, the fact that Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Goudikuns had pushed his chips in on this player, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that Matt Lafleur, his QB school acumen, was invested

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<v Speaker 2>into this young man. Tom Clements had come back and

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<v Speaker 2>had coached this young man, and to see it work

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<v Speaker 2>out for him, to see it work out for the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't help but feel somewhat sentimental about this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing, because, as I told you before, Mike, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first quarterback, the first prospect, the first real

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<v Speaker 2>investment that I've seen groomed. In my current occupation, Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers was an MVP, a Super Bowl champion. When I

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<v Speaker 2>started covering this team on a full time basis in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve, I got to watch brick by brick, piece

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<v Speaker 2>by piece in practices that were visible to no one.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty, Jordan Love go from the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Bit Packers were developing to the face of

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<v Speaker 2>the franchise, and to see him rewarded knowing what he's

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<v Speaker 2>been through on a personal level, knowing what he's done

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<v Speaker 2>on a professional level, and the fact that in four

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<v Speaker 2>and a half years, Mike, this guy has not sidestepped once.

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<v Speaker 2>He has done everything right from the very beginning. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel somewhat emotional about that whole thing because there are

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<v Speaker 2>people behind those face masks. There are families that are

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<v Speaker 2>impacted by it, and for the Packers and Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>to reach this resolution, I just felt like this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those type of things that ten, fifteen, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years down the line, you and I will be talking

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<v Speaker 2>to grandchildren and other people about this because it's pretty special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it absolutely is special. It's very exciting, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can give you the perspective at least a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the last time that this happened because I got

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<v Speaker 1>here to Packers dot Com in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Aaron rodgers second year in the league. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched him as the backup to Bretta in six and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>which were years two and three for Rogers. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know we've we've gotten the question in insider inbox, Well

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<v Speaker 1>are the you know, the Packers are making this investment

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<v Speaker 1>in Jordan Love after just half a season of like

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<v Speaker 1>good football. Well, let me remind everybody that Ted Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>the former general manager, rest his soul. He made the

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<v Speaker 1>commitment to Aaron Rodgers after seven games as the starting

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in two thousand and eight, the Packers were four

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<v Speaker 1>and three. Aaron Rodgers, in essence, hadn't won anything yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Jordan Love earned a playoff spot, won a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game, like his accomplishments in year one as a

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<v Speaker 1>starter surpassed those of Rogers. But Ted Thompson had the

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<v Speaker 1>courage of his convictions the same as when he drafted him.

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<v Speaker 1>Had the courage of his convictions when it came time

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<v Speaker 1>to make the decision to move forward with this guy

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<v Speaker 1>as your franchise quarterback and now Brian Gudokunst and Russ

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<v Speaker 1>Ball and everybody in the Packers' front office has done

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing with Jordan Love, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder. I've seen a few comments related to this

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<v Speaker 1>an inbox. Perhaps you're posting one or I will post

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<v Speaker 1>one here soon for those who keep bringing up the well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just half a season. Well, on the field, yes

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<v Speaker 1>it's half a season. But everybody who's involved in this

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<v Speaker 1>decision has seen Jordan Love for the last four plus

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<v Speaker 1>years that he's been here. They know what they're getting,

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<v Speaker 1>they know what they're investing in in terms of the player,

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<v Speaker 1>the person, the work ethic, you know, the the talent,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it is always shown up on the field or not,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things. I mean that that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>is all about. And you know, as things go, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you mentioned, you know, being up there as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the highest paid, you know, the next quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>to sign the next big deal, which might be Dak Prescott,

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<v Speaker 1>is probably going to surpass everybody else. I mean that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being the highest paid doesn't last long in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. That's just the nature of things. But the similarities,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, in terms of the transition from Far to

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers now from Rogers to Love. Nothing is exact, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same blueprint, but the similarities and how the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have gone about this and the timeline of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how they've made their decisions, it's it's been interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>follow and I think everybody is excited about what's to

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<v Speaker 1>come here with Jordan Love as the face of the franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the coolest thing about it, Mike, because you

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<v Speaker 2>go back and listen to the Packers now and talking

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<v Speaker 2>about in twenty oh seven how much they've felt Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers was they had something there, And now you're hearing

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<v Speaker 2>more and more about Brian Goodikons and Matt Lafleur talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how in twenty twenty two they thought Jordan Loved

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<v Speaker 2>there was something there, not just the Philadelphia game, how

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<v Speaker 2>he performed in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the Dallas game in two thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 1>with your odd right, and it was smaller sample size,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was the Philadelphia game for Jordan Love that

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<v Speaker 1>you go, okay, you know, big stage, primetime, big time opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't just some pre season outing. Went out there,

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<v Speaker 1>went out there and played and looked like he belonged

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<v Speaker 1>at in the upper echelon of NFL football players. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now here we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are in one of the things where I had to

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<v Speaker 2>benefit over you on this because you always cover the

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<v Speaker 2>podium after games. I got to be in that locker

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<v Speaker 2>room after the Packers. They did lose that game to

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles. Yea, but Jordan Love addressed the media in

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room, and there wasn't this oh I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>and it's awesome, and hey, I had this nice touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>pass to Christian Watson and all this stuff. It was no,

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<v Speaker 2>we lost the game and I expected better even though

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<v Speaker 2>he played really well. And that's where in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>it went off of yeah, this guy, he's he's a

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<v Speaker 2>different type of customer. So yep. To bring it all

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<v Speaker 2>back around, and just to answer your original question to me,

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<v Speaker 2>to hear Matt Lafuer talk about this is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that knows our offense inside and out. Now he's the

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<v Speaker 2>one that is the general out there on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see it on the practice field on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>how different everything looked with Jordan Love out there. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it started a little slow. He didn't practice the first

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<v Speaker 2>five days of camp. And there was gonna be some

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<v Speaker 2>rush to walk to knock off. But by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the camp, by the end of the practice, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>him and Christian Watson, they were looking at what Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Hafley and the defense were doing. They draw up, They

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<v Speaker 2>drew up their own deep shot play. They connect on

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<v Speaker 2>it for forty seven yards. It leads to a four play,

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<v Speaker 2>seventy yard drive and two minute to score a touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>and he's off and running once again. So in the

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<v Speaker 2>National Football League when people ask about these contracts and

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<v Speaker 2>what guys are making now, if you have a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>you have hope, and the Packers have hope, and because

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<v Speaker 2>of that, there's a price tag attached to that. But

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<v Speaker 2>what's good for the Green Bay Packers is they aren't

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at as well, we're paying our quarterback. They're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at as we're paying one of the top young

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<v Speaker 2>players in this league right now, and they feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there's still a lot more for him to uncover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, that getting to the on the field action.

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<v Speaker 1>Since since our last show and what we've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, you mentioned the deep ball to Watson, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought a little bit earlier than that. In practice, after

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<v Speaker 1>some rough moments and clearly some you know, some rust

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<v Speaker 1>as as you mentioned in the early part of that

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday practice, it was, you know, Love hit Jaden Reid

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<v Speaker 1>on a crossing route, then he hit Christian Watson on

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<v Speaker 1>a crossing route. Then he scoops up a low snap,

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<v Speaker 1>a low shotgun snap by his ankles and then fires

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<v Speaker 1>a little side arm flick to Romeo Dobbs right, and

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's Carl Brooks coming unblocked on a on

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<v Speaker 1>a pass rush. And Love's Love's reaction was you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't a first day of training camp

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<v Speaker 1>for him reaction. This was a this was a mid

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<v Speaker 1>season all systems go reaction where he got away from

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<v Speaker 1>the free rusher, you know, throws a throws a quick pass,

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<v Speaker 1>gets the check down to Josh Jacobs to the make

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<v Speaker 1>to make something out of nothing kind of thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're you know, you're seeing that already from Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 1>in the first practice after he you know, knocks off

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<v Speaker 1>some of that rust early on, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the two practices under his belt. The Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>still dealing with, you know, some shuffling on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Tom is not in there at right tackle. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>Elton Jenkins has had some days off, Josh Myers was

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<v Speaker 1>out for a couple of days for a personal issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sound like we're going to see Zach tom

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<v Speaker 1>in the eleven on eleven until after Family Night as

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<v Speaker 1>he continues the recovery. But I think with Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 1>getting a couple of practices under his belt, and now

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<v Speaker 1>the day off on Monday heading into Tuesday and the

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<v Speaker 1>week of practices that is going to culminate with Family Night,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to start to see this offense

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<v Speaker 1>hit its stride, find itself a little bit and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a moment on Sunday, Mike. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of a They called it the

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<v Speaker 2>moderate practice in terms of the tempo and the pace.

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<v Speaker 2>They go low high, moderate, And there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>instances there where I was able to sort of just

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<v Speaker 2>scan back and look at this team and seeing Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Jacobs backfield with Romeo Dobbs and Christian Watson and Jayden

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<v Speaker 2>Reid and Dan Tavian Wick's at receiver, Bo Melton at receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>watching Luke Muskrave. You know, run some seam routes. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just blown away by the amount of talent, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly they'll skill positions on this football team, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just like, Okay, well they signed Josh Jacobs and

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of guys. It's like, this is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of homegrown talent the Packers have unearthed. That's how you

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<v Speaker 2>open up a championship window. The questions definitely to answer.

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<v Speaker 2>On the offensive line, Jordan Morgan has been repping inside

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<v Speaker 2>at right guard. We'll have to see exactly what the

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<v Speaker 2>future holds for him there. They're giving him a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to compete for a starting job right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Rashid Walker's been over there at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>Kadeem Telford has been getting reps with the number one

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line at right tackle. They've been trying to put

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<v Speaker 2>this all together to line themselves up for these joint

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<v Speaker 2>practices obviously for some of these preseason games, to start

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<v Speaker 2>identifying what their unit is going to be. But Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of teams in the National pot Ball

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<v Speaker 2>League that would look at the Packers situation as a

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<v Speaker 2>very advantageous one and a luxury for Green Bay to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to actually have this many questions to answer,

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<v Speaker 2>not about hey, who's making the fifty three, but ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>who's gonna be those eleven guys on the football field,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a tight competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think, I think what makes this on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive side of the ball, what makes this so

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting and so interesting and so intriguing and so

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<v Speaker 1>different from from where we've been here in Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>over the last you know, number of years before the transition,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're not just looking at Jordan Love and going, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really know how good he's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>We know he hasn't necessarily hit his peak yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, what is the ceiling, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of unknown. Well, when you look at Christian Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>Romeo Dobbs, Jaden Reed, Dantavian Wicks, Luke Musgrave, you're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of feeling and saying the same thing about all those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you know when you look back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point, Greg Jennings became Greg Jennings, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb became who they were, and

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante Adams and you go into a certain season, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly who those guys are going to be and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to give you right there are still there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's this unknown in terms of the ceiling with

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<v Speaker 1>these perimeter players that are around around Jordan Love. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's there's sort of the question of how does

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Jacobs fit into this right taking over as the

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<v Speaker 1>as the the first string running back for Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really really an intriguing place to be. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very it's a very exciting place to be. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>and the packers have a good you know, a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks here of practices working together, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>joint practices coming up, all that kind of stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>to get things figured out and see where this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio with some friends of mine and Edmonton. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>talking to these guys since I was at the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Prescazette, and they asked me at the receiver position,

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<v Speaker 2>like who's gonna be the guy that separates himself, who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the one that good luck figuring that

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<v Speaker 2>out exactly and the way I like in it too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I use this analogy with them. To me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a dessert menu. I mean, what do you want. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want Christian Watson explosive plays, game breaking opportunities. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want Romeo Dobbs, who, as Adam Stenovitch told us

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday, I mean the way he's running his routes

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<v Speaker 2>right now, what he's done to have that marry up

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<v Speaker 2>with his pass catching ability. I mean, you and I

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<v Speaker 2>have seen it. We might not be able to break

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<v Speaker 2>it down like a scout, but it doesn't take a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to understand just how crisp he's been so far

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<v Speaker 2>in this camp. Dontavian Wicks last year was among the

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<v Speaker 2>league leaders and yards per catch. Jayden Reid was the Packers'

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<v Speaker 2>leading receivers, a guy that can be used on end

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<v Speaker 2>rounds and as sort of a gadget player in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to doing the slot. The aspect of it isn't necessarily okay,

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to separate themselves? Is just going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of, okay, how do they tailor this offense

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<v Speaker 2>and who gets emphasized. And I think one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Lafuer proved he could do last year and these

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coaches showed they could do, is they can open

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<v Speaker 2>this thing up and present a lot of different options.

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<v Speaker 2>So whether or not you want cheesecake or Tara Massou

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<v Speaker 2>in the Green Bay Packers. There's no shortage of different

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<v Speaker 2>ways they can go about this thing, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what makes it exciting for the Packers and for opposition,

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<v Speaker 2>could make it really tricky if everybody can stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I want to dive into kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>the years all start to run together for me after

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<v Speaker 1>a while. I have to admit, you've had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteenth training camp as you know, the providing helping to

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<v Speaker 1>provide the coverage for Packers dot Com. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I can recall a Now we talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>competition for roster spots and playing time and all that

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I don't know if I can recall

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<v Speaker 1>a competition for a starting job that feels as wide

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<v Speaker 1>open and undecided right now as the safety spot does.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll admit I went into this thinking Javon Bullard is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who's got the edge. He's the second round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes from that Kirby Smart George defense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Packers obviously have liked those kind of players over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. But Bullard, Evan Williams from Oregon, Anthony Johnson Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>the seventh rounder from Iowa State last year, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>have all been rotating. Yeah, with the number one reps

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<v Speaker 1>next to Xavier McKinney. Not just that, it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just the you know, sort of the flatline

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<v Speaker 1>of where the depth chart is right now, where they're

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of on the same line. But they're all

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<v Speaker 1>making plays out there. Yeah, you know, the interception. Every

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<v Speaker 1>single guy's had at least one interception. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys have had multiple interceptions. The play, the plays

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<v Speaker 1>that they are making, you know, it's the old adage

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, taking advantage of your opportunities when you're

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<v Speaker 1>given those and when these guys have been given those

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities with the number one defense, they're cashing in and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's making this thing, really, it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to make this safety competition perhaps last all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through camp and all the way through the preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we haven't even seen katan Ala Dapo yet, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because of him with the toe injury, what he can

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<v Speaker 2>potentially add to that, his size, I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely proto.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's he's a different body type compared to those

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<v Speaker 1>other guys. And you're right, we haven't seen him in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you go back to the draft, he was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that everybody was saying it is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>more traditional type, free safety type. So to answer your question, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I mean, especially at the safety position.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of years, Mike, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm going out too far on a limb

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<v Speaker 2>saying this that the way that Anthony Johnson you performed,

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<v Speaker 2>he would be a starter in a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>seasons that I covered for the Packers at safety. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just he's been accountable. He's picked up that position so fast,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's shown some playmaking ability, which when he was

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<v Speaker 2>making that transition at Iowa State when he didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of interceptions in college. The way he came

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<v Speaker 2>out last year and got a pick right away when

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<v Speaker 2>he was playing on the back end.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you wonder. And I'll just say this, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where things are going for Anthony Johnson junior,

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<v Speaker 1>but it makes you wonder if he had made that

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<v Speaker 1>transition from cornerback to safety earlier in his college career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably not a seventh round draft out of Iowa State.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably more like you know, just guessing here, but

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps a mid round pick like Evan Williams out of Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>Same type of player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a lot of times though, like you saw

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<v Speaker 2>what happened with Micah Hyde has just got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cornerbacks are valuable at every level of football, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>your best defensive back needs to play cornerback, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think Iowa State was in that predicament quite a bit so.

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<v Speaker 2>But bringing it all full circle here, it has to

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<v Speaker 2>be exciting for the Packers in that if let's say

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<v Speaker 2>some that happens where Evan Williams ends up starting at safety.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not because Javon Bullard doesn't look like that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>the right pick for them, right. Jean Bullard's had some

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<v Speaker 2>big moments too. Both of those guys have interceptions, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Williams just has for three in the first five six practices.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy in so many ways to use

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<v Speaker 2>that Mica Hyde analogy again, he reminds me of it

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<v Speaker 2>just from his headiness as smart's, his intelligence, his balls, scills,

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<v Speaker 2>his instincts. I was asking him at his locker on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday about that play where he intercepted the first play

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<v Speaker 2>of the two minute series with the number two is

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<v Speaker 2>against Sean Clifford. He picks off Clifford on the very

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<v Speaker 2>first snap and it ends the drill. They just moved

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<v Speaker 2>on to the number three's right after that, And I

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<v Speaker 2>had asked him about that in the way that he

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<v Speaker 2>broke it down was I'm sure it's the way everybody

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<v Speaker 2>thinks about the safety position, but I never heard it

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<v Speaker 2>articulated this way. He's like, you know, my number one

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<v Speaker 2>thing is you know he's in his zone cover read there,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's looking to see how the routes develop, because

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<v Speaker 2>if he feels like if he figures out that aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of it that helps him with his peripherals, then he

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<v Speaker 2>can zero in on where the core and by the

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<v Speaker 2>time he processes all that information, he has feels like

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<v Speaker 2>he had the body awareness and the field awareness that

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<v Speaker 2>when he saw the ball come out from Clifford, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't that he just was going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>jump it or be able to catch it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he felt like it was like Neo and the Matrix.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everything slowed down for him to the point

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<v Speaker 2>that he just had to execute the assignment. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>intriguing thing about this, Mike, and I can think of

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<v Speaker 2>so many times in my twelve years covering this football

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.880
<v Speaker 2>team when the Packers have overloaded, whether it be through

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 2>free agency or the draft, at certain positions, they get results.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seventeen, they needed to change things at running back.

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<v Speaker 2>They did it with both Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>Countless times, the Packers have tripled down on receivers and

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<v Speaker 2>they've been able to get NFL talent, and particularly these

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<v Speaker 2>draft two years ago, elite talent and Christian Watson and

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<v Speaker 2>Romeo Dobbs out of it. So I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>most exciting thing. And yeah, who will prevail I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have watched enough Packers football and I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>enough NFL games to know at some point you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to need all of them. And as much as we

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<v Speaker 2>will zero in on who's starting and who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be out there week one in Brazil, the course of

0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 2>a season being what it is, whether it's the slot,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's the back end, whether it's special teams, all

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 2>those guys are going to have an integral role in

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<v Speaker 2>this thing from day one, and if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make a Super Bowl push, you need those type of

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<v Speaker 2>contributions from rookies right off the bat. Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you think about it, like last year, at

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<v Speaker 1>this time, we weren't talking a whole lot about Carrington Valentine,

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<v Speaker 1>the seventh round draft pick at cornerback, and then look

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>how much he ended up having to play, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way NFL seasons go. I want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to one other point you just made though. That last

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<v Speaker 1>interception by Williams you were talking about. It was on

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<v Speaker 1>the first play of the number two units two minute drive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's that says something about the mentality

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys who are competing for the safety position

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<v Speaker 1>because they've all been rotating with the ones. Well, when

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>they're not when it's not their turn with the ones,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not taking a breather. They're not like letting down.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Williams is out there with the twos and he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the attack, right, I mean, And that's how that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you compete. That's how you make an impression. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just oh, I have to give I have to

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<v Speaker 1>give it my all when I'm out there with Xavier McKinney.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are out there trying to do their thing

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<v Speaker 1>and make the impression and make this a really difficult

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>decision on the coaches. They're doing that no matter what

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>unit they're lining up with, and I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's worth mentioning.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to just point this out too very quickly

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<v Speaker 2>because someone asked me an insider inbox like and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be in my column, you know later this week. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at how the Packers have structured this thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've rotated all these different safeties next to Xavier McKinney

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out who the best candidate is and also

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<v Speaker 2>to let McKinny get you know, some comfort with who

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<v Speaker 2>potentially his running mate could be. But the byproduct of

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<v Speaker 2>that is how many different combinations they've been running with

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<v Speaker 2>the two defense, Yes, how many times Evan Williams and

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<v Speaker 2>you know he is able to line up with an

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Johnson Junr or with you know Bullard, or with

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Zane Anderson. And that's important too, that that all those

0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 2>guys are being able to get that work together.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's how they become interchangeable in a sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, last year, how often did that happen? We're due

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<v Speaker 2>to injuries. There wasn't a single safety last year for

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 2>the agreement packers that got through on skate. There was

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 2>injuries galore. Yep. And you hope that it's better this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't be that situation again, But you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>different combinations of guys developing that chemistry with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The other competitions were certainly watching at cornerback, you know,

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the starting cornerback job opposite jy R Alexander, Eric Stokes,

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Carrington Valentine. Both guys have certainly had their moments out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Stokes is getting more of the reps with the number

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<v Speaker 1>ones right now than Valentine is, but it's just one

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<v Speaker 1>weekend to camp and who knows if there becomes more

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<v Speaker 1>of a rotation there or how that might change, So

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<v Speaker 1>we will definitely be keeping an eye on that. At kicker,

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<v Speaker 1>the three kickers, I would say, I think it's fair

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<v Speaker 1>to say that Greg Joseph and Andras Carlson are very

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<v Speaker 1>much neck and neck at the front of that kicking competition,

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<v Speaker 1>and James Turner is kind of trying to make up

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<v Speaker 1>a little ground right now after one week of camp.

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<v Speaker 1>On the offensive line, as I mentioned before, some moving parts,

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>some shuffling going on, but it still appears to be

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 1>shaping up that Jordan Morgan and Sean Ryan are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be competing for the starting job at right guard,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just have to see. It's extremely early in

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that regard, and certainly with Morgan making the transition from

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<v Speaker 1>from tackle to guard and the pads having now just

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<v Speaker 1>gone on for a couple of days, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another one to watch as things go along. Not really

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot to update there other than it does

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<v Speaker 1>look like it's it's pretty open in terms of just

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<v Speaker 1>may the best man win yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing, I'm keeping an eye on his

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<v Speaker 2>right tackle because Zach Tom, even though you are expecting,

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, he'll be out there soon enough, be back

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 2>in those team trails. Tom is one of the first

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 2>pieces that get moved when injuries hit. That's right here.

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 2>He stepped in. Remember that one game where he's at

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<v Speaker 2>right tackle. I think Josh Myers did. Did he actually

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<v Speaker 2>get hurt or was it like an equipment issue he

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<v Speaker 2>had to go out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it might have just been like an equipment thing.

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Zach Tom's on the sideline snapping with Sean Clifford, then

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 2>snapping with with Jordan Love and he moves inside. That

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 2>is one of the first dominoes that could potentially fall here,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>depending on how Packers want to handle things. Although to

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 2>be fair, Elton Jenkins also has that versatility. Yep, so

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>who could potentially be the swing tackle. That's where the

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 2>competition happens with Tolford. We also went now with Caleb

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Jones being back Telford, excuse me? And then you know

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Andre Dillard is in this thing a number of different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing can go for the Green Bay Packers and

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out, you know who those guys are

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>going to because on game day you'll have those eight

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen, you'll have your starting five, But who are

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 2>those next three guys up that could be summoned And

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what they're looking to identify right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, before we go anything that's sort of at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of your list in terms of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be watching for as week two of training

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<v Speaker 1>camp starts to unfold here.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun watching padded one on ones for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. Defense the defensive line, that's typically where I'm at.

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And usually I'm watching the past catcher's past defenders one

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>on ones, which is like when it's a tight end,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it's usually a safety and then obviously wide outs you

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>know versus corners and stuff, and uh, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun to see that for the for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. You know, with the pads on that's where

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the the intensity of practice, you know, ratchets up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and these guys really get into it well.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you said it yourself on some of our

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>other content I can remember for it was on script

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>or a different show we do. Uh, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so it's so hard to be able to and

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Lafleuur echoed these comments. It's it's hard to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to rush to a bunch of conclusions in shells

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<v Speaker 2>about offensive line and defensive line. Absolutely, the game changes

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 2>once those pads come on, As Lafleur joked, I mean,

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit more cloth that can get grabbed

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 2>in those moments as well. And for me seeing how

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<v Speaker 2>you know dominant, you know some of these guys have

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 2>been okay, how does that translate now that these guys

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>have these pads on? And in the first day I

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<v Speaker 2>watched it, I thought Jordan Morgan was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>all stars of it. He had a really tough task

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 2>taking on DeVante Wyatt. Wyatt hit him with two very

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>different techniques, a bull rush the second time, a little

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>bit more finesse the first time, and he stood up

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>to that. Colby Wooden I thought had some really good rushes.

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Carl Brooks looks sensational. But then you even have you know,

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Sean Ryan being able to match up with a Kenny Clark,

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>a Kadeem Telford being able to match up with the

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Rashawn Gary. Those are very important reps because yeah, Telford's

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 2>probably seen him in some of these You know, practice

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 2>squad reps and scout team reps, but it's different. Man,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 2>when you got that bull looking you in the eyes

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 2>and one of the most intense physical players on this

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 2>football team and.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no help on either side. It's it truly is

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<v Speaker 1>one on one out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thing I'd take away from it, I'm never

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a person. It's like, oh, here's the wins

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and losses, but it's seeing how those guys respond to that,

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>getting a chance to get a better feel for that.

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<v Speaker 2>This week's going to be fun. In addition to the

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>fact that you know we're in this thing now, we're

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<v Speaker 2>a week into training camp. This thing is no longer starting.

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<v Speaker 2>We are moving and the Packers are looking at Family

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<v Speaker 2>Night and soon enough we'll be looking at that preseason

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that first preseason game is right around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>But for now, we will call it a rap on

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Packers Unscript and be sure to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to follow all of our coverage of the goings on

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<v Speaker 1>at training camp. We've got it all for you on

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com. For Wes, I am Mike. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in everybody. We will see you next time