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Speaker 1: Get your hands together, and we're gonna stop and party start.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to party.

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Speaker 3: See Elvis ter Ran after Party.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the podcast. It's the after

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Speaker 2: Party podcast. Hm, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Where was the party?

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Speaker 2: We're still cleaning up. I got Kayla from Rochester right here.

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Speaker 2: She needs advice. People actually call us for advice as

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Speaker 2: if we know what we're talking about exactly. We have

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Speaker 2: no credibility whatsoever. But Kayla seems to have the need

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Speaker 2: for advice, So let's go help her out. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Kayla, Hi, Well, my sister is just I love her

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Speaker 4: so dearly, but she's just really on my nerves because

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Speaker 4: she keeps asking me for money and it's not like

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Speaker 4: a crazy amount, but I'm broke. I can't afford to

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Speaker 4: keep sending her money. But I'm just not a super

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Speaker 4: confrontational person, and I don't know how to talk to

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Speaker 4: her about it. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Does she ask for money a lot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like every few weeks she asked me for

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Speaker 4: like a couple hundred dollars or like one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: But I need to pay my New York City rent.

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Speaker 4: So I'm from Rochester but moved to the city, and

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Speaker 4: now I can't afford to keep helping her out.

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Speaker 2: So where there you go. Well, okay, first of all,

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Speaker 2: is she paying you back at all?

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Speaker 4: No, she's not barling.

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Speaker 2: That's taking.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my sister.

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Speaker 2: That's my point. I mean, it's your sister. You're like, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can't get away from her.

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Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't just like not help her.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, I don't know what's to

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Speaker 5: because I can't keep doing it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: So a minute, you're going to tell to something that

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Speaker 2: happened to her Thanksgiving? What was that?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Just that she didn't bring it up, like about how

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Speaker 5: she was going to pay me back. There was no

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Speaker 5: Like I thought that she was going to give me

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Speaker 5: a plan about like a payback plan, but she didn't.

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Speaker 5: Well did you did you ask her?

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Speaker 2: Because maybe if you're not asking her, she's getting away

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 5: I know, Well, I kind of I'm not confrontational. I

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Speaker 5: don't know how to do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, here's the thing. You don't want to be confrontational.

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Speaker 2: I get that. At the same time, you need to

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Speaker 2: pay your own bills. What you can do is to

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Speaker 2: say I can't give you any money. I don't have

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Speaker 2: any it's it's spent. I mean, I would have to

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Speaker 2: borrow money to give you money. That's a great, great one. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to borrow money if I If I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give you money, that's that's that's where I am.

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Speaker 2: And then that puts the ball on her court to

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Speaker 2: at least respond to that. What do you think, Nate, Kayla?

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Speaker 2: Get ready for it? Elvis? What is what is it

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Speaker 2: that you say when you people ask to borrow money?

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Speaker 2: What do I say? What do I say? You'll never

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Speaker 2: see it again?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, that's the thing about borrowing money. If

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Speaker 2: you lend money to someone, you have to go ahead

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Speaker 2: and just write it off. You're never going to see

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Speaker 2: that money again ever. Yeah, and if they pay it back,

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Speaker 2: it's like whoa surprise. But I don't know what do

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Speaker 2: you guys think?

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Speaker 3: Well, I have a lot of questions about this, and

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Speaker 3: like ballpark, have you lent her like hundreds of dollars?

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Speaker 3: Thousands of dollars? Where are you at with that?

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Speaker 5: I'd say at this point it is probably in the

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Speaker 5: thousand range.

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Speaker 2: And how many times has she asked?

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Speaker 5: Do you know it's it's been probably like five to

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Speaker 3: And why is it? Why is is she like falling

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Speaker 3: on hard times? What's her deal that she has to

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Speaker 4: She graduated college recently and you know, it's a pretty

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Speaker 4: terrible job market right now. So she's been trying, and

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Speaker 4: I give her pride for that. She has been trying

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Speaker 5: But she's been struggling in the meantime.

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Speaker 3: Has she heard of only fans just.

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Speaker 2: You have pretty feet? She only fans we get a

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Speaker 2: lot of money. Well, look at your sister, and she's

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Speaker 2: she has fallen on hard times. I get that, But

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Speaker 2: at some point, it's you can't. At some point you're

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Speaker 2: gonna you have to say I can't again, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have to borrow money if I heaveen with money to

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Speaker 2: give you. At this point, that's really kind of a

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Speaker 2: great out. But what's scary. Shame shame on her for

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Speaker 2: guilting you that way. I think that's awful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand she's your sister, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that she has this history of not paying you back

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's gotta.

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Speaker 2: Be other things for her to do. And I know

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Speaker 2: it's a tough job market.

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Speaker 1: But along the lines of what Gandhi said, maybe she's

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Speaker 1: she's learned how to dance on a pole somewhere.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you said. I'm telling you that.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if you're desperate, desperate times call for desperate measures.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do what you gotta do to get through. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell your sister go dance on a pole.

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Speaker 2: Year Jones Scarry Jones that, well, look, you know you

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Speaker 2: do want to be there for her, but she you

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Speaker 2: have to tell her that there's got to be another way.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the money. I just can't. What am

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Speaker 2: I supposed to do? You know? And she doesn't guilt you, though,

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Speaker 2: does she say things that make you feel guilty if

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Speaker 2: you if you sound like you're not going to give

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Speaker 2: her money.

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Speaker 4: It's not it's not like she's trying to guilt me directly,

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Speaker 4: but like she says things that make me feel bad

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Speaker 5: You know, she she knows I sympathize with her, and

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Speaker 5: so I think that she kind of plays that card

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Speaker 5: a little a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, sorry, good luck with that good luck.

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Speaker 2: Can you loan us some money? I could use some cash.

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Speaker 2: I promise you if you gave us one hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: right now, we will pay you back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, best of luck to you, Kyla. Let us

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Speaker 2: know how that turns out. All right, You're very welcome.

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Speaker 2: Take care Kayla. Again, if they ask to borrow money,

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Speaker 2: you're never going to see it again.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like, what if she put her on

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Speaker 1: a payment plan where she pays about twenty.

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Speaker 3: Dollars ten dollars were not ten dollars like you know.

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Speaker 2: Every two weeks at least something. It is something asking

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Speaker 2: her for the ten dollars to.

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Speaker 4: Pay her I know, But I'm just saying, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: How many people, Elvis, how many people ask you for money?

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Speaker 2: A day? Oh? Every it's almost every day I have

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Speaker 2: someone asking me, really absolutely, and a lot of a

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Speaker 2: lot of them, I don't even know. We have a

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Speaker 2: lot of people to listen to our show that you know,

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Speaker 2: they fall on the hard times and they're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I really need some and no, I mean I've got

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Speaker 2: VENMO requests before from total strangers.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally they need help.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it true though, that once you say yes to

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Speaker 1: somebody once, then they'll just keep coming back over and

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Speaker 1: over and over again.

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Speaker 2: I'm finding that to be the case in some situations. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, when you feed the neighborhood cat,

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Speaker 2: the cat's to come back from more and bring it

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Speaker 2: to other cats ran after.

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Speaker 5: Do you want to know were