WEBVTT - Chasity Melvin

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John And this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do what good do? They's getting down

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<v Speaker 1>to do it? Good do it. We asked the questions

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<v Speaker 1>you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all given. That

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<v Speaker 1>hit the stands nothing, that's that's old school right there.

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<v Speaker 1>What's on your mental? What's on my mental? So I

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<v Speaker 1>did this fantastic. So I'm not bragging, but I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>am going as you listen to this podcast, you will

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<v Speaker 1>find out. Um, I will let you into my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I have a Peloton treadmill. Okay, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the Peloton treadmill. Huh No, they're not paying us, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you I like the treadmill. And hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>if I continue to explore how the treadmill is intertwining

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<v Speaker 1>itself with my life, maybe something to come out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, I will be in Paleton. Brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by I will be in studio at some time, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, though I already have linked up with them somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>some way and getting into the Peloton studio in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, so I'm starting to become an avid runner.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was running the other day and there is

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. It's a heart rate zone. And his heart

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<v Speaker 1>rate zone was a power run and it was forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes, and so I'm going in his heart rate

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm I know my heart rate and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And I was in a in a UH

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<v Speaker 1>zone three up for four and we're probably about ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left for this forty five minute run. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have probably five minutes a run, three minutes of of

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<v Speaker 1>short bursts, and then a two minute cool down. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's ten minutes. So we hit the regular five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>back and go the last two minutes. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something, these these last two minutes, this machine is

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<v Speaker 1>really showing me that it is not just a machine

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<v Speaker 1>that just sets up in the up in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a machine that it can. Really it's given

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<v Speaker 1>me a perspective of life that I never knew. So

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<v Speaker 1>this ain't it's a two wheel with coat. This is

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<v Speaker 1>using it. Yeah, I'm using it. Like so here's how

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<v Speaker 1>I use it. I got in mid September. I ran

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<v Speaker 1>about October build up to forty two miles November fifty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you, right, I'm enjoying the space. But on

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<v Speaker 1>this treadmill has a big old screen, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>has two buttons. One button is a stop, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that stop in the middle says stop. On the right

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<v Speaker 1>it says sleep. On the other part of the stop

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<v Speaker 1>it says wait, just to get it going. Then there's

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<v Speaker 1>this button that I have not known. I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>six September. I have not known what this button is for,

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<v Speaker 1>but I damn show found out this week. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a moment of discovery. No, I didn't have a moment

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<v Speaker 1>of discovery. I had a crashing burn on on this button.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the word is free? And what's what's free?

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<v Speaker 1>Please ask me what free is? What's free? Free is

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<v Speaker 1>free mode? Yes? That was my mom was going there too.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what was no pleasure in this one, bro

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<v Speaker 1>Free is when the treadmill comes to a complete stop

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<v Speaker 1>and you now have to make the treadmill move on

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<v Speaker 1>this You know what I got off that treadmill and

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<v Speaker 1>these are my words directly off the treadmill. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want nothing else for free. No more. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>joke around and say, hey, you know you can always

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<v Speaker 1>get a free bu whipping. But I'm telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>is I didn't want know, I want no more free ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want any more free stuff. It's yes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what you liking? No no, no, no, I have post

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<v Speaker 1>them out of stress. If you say free, I just flinched, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so crazy in this free mode is basically

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<v Speaker 1>you can't you go to a complete stop? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>run holding the bar and you make it go? And

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<v Speaker 1>she see that to tell us by your own strength, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>at what speed we're supposed to go? This is this

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<v Speaker 1>is like your old school training, like you in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't want that. I don't want a free exercise

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That that is, let's make money for workout.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different levels to it. I got off that treadmill.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at that treadmill and I flinched at it

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<v Speaker 1>like I was. It might have in the way it

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<v Speaker 1>was going, it might have jumped, but it was such

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome moment because this treadmill is really I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to discover and figure out in this trip, in this

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<v Speaker 1>world of running, what a recovery run is what a

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<v Speaker 1>endurance run is is. I am learning how to exercise

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<v Speaker 1>without the money carrot being dangled. This is more of

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<v Speaker 1>a health It's just a lifestyle for me. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>extreme workout guys. So when I say extreme, like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to lose five or six pounds in a week, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll starve myself. Then I become angry because I'm hungry

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<v Speaker 1>and angry. Right I I've been on crashed, I've done

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff, but this this time has really

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty cool to see. How do I slowly just

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<v Speaker 1>create good happens? And I'm telling you that free molde

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<v Speaker 1>it made me question myself no more. I don't if

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<v Speaker 1>someone would have walked up to the door, rang the door,

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<v Speaker 1>be say hey I got a free dozen of donutam right?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't I don't want any? It was it was crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but so think about it in three months. So my

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<v Speaker 1>question is for the listeners right now, take this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What things in your life or person or or household

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<v Speaker 1>item has been there for years but you never really

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<v Speaker 1>known is there? You never really pushed that free button

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<v Speaker 1>to discover what does this really mean? Look at you

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<v Speaker 1>dropping knowledge? But I'll take you on the motivational Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to It, I ain't free. Hey, who we got next?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on the Cut to It Podcast, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Chastity Melvin, an assistant coach with the w NBA's Phoenix Mercury,

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<v Speaker 1>a star at North Carolina State, and the author of

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<v Speaker 1>At the End of the Day. Chastity Melvin on the

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to It Podcast. Chastis, thanks for coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to It Podcast. Hope you're doing all right. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. You know, I can't complain. I got back

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<v Speaker 1>to basketball, I was able to coach, so I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful. That's wonderful. Hey, coming up, we have our

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<v Speaker 1>own version of our Icebergers called get iced Up. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be random questions. You have no idea what's coming,

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not have a follow up. You just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, right, So I'm gonna let Steve go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and fire off the first question to you. You ready,

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<v Speaker 1>I was born? Ready, let's go, since you were born?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the strangest thing you've ever eaten? Then? Strange? That

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<v Speaker 1>ain't strange? Chart that was baked? Okay, look at you up?

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<v Speaker 1>It was bag. How many states have you been to

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<v Speaker 1>as at least all right, tell tell me a random

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<v Speaker 1>one that just like, why were you there? Wisconsin? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I can get that. Are you thinking Wisconsin? I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in Wisconsin. I know it's Wisconsin is like outside of cheeseheads. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin is one of those places if you've never been

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go. It's like when you walk into

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<v Speaker 1>a store and you realize, uh, whoops, Steve, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>explained it any better exactly. You know. I'm just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming in. I went to a pizza's joint. I

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<v Speaker 1>just sat down and then I sat there for a

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<v Speaker 1>while and everyone was staring at me. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>looked around, like, oh I was I went there. Me

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<v Speaker 1>and my son went there. The Dodgers were playing the brewery,

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<v Speaker 1>so we went out there and uh went to a

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers game. Uh, unbelievable stadium. It was. It was remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we also went myself was like, hey, dad, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to mall, you know, to get a souvenir or something.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, same thing like that piece of when we

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<v Speaker 1>walked in the mall. I don't really call it them

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<v Speaker 1>all so, but it was cool. Okay, when did you

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<v Speaker 1>first feel like an adult when I first got my

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<v Speaker 1>first check as a pro and I saw the taxes

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<v Speaker 1>taken out of it. Oh, that's the way. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the humbling part of it. I gotta check who is

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<v Speaker 1>what's good. I actually called my mother and said yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Mom, that's something wrong with my check.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I gotta give him money. She said, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the grown world, honey, welcome to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, last one, what's your dream job? A dream?

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<v Speaker 1>My dream job would probably be traveling all over the world,

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<v Speaker 1>just having campers and clinics and someone else paying for

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<v Speaker 1>everything in first class trouble. That's my dream job. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>so you wanna be a rich kid then huh. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily have to have the money, but someone can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fund me, you know, fund my travel, fund

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<v Speaker 1>all the expenses. I'm not asking for much, Steve. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not asking a lie, I know it's not. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to travel around the world, no responsibility, someone

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<v Speaker 1>else pay dreamers. Yeah, I gotta get it all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get right into it. You really appreciate you coming

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<v Speaker 1>on and and and we really just want to know

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<v Speaker 1>who is Chastity Melvin, Like, why what when where? So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some staples that we always go to. And

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<v Speaker 1>I always love asking this question because the response that

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<v Speaker 1>we usually get it is always well received. So where

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<v Speaker 1>are you from? And the place you call your hometown?

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<v Speaker 1>So my home, I'm from Humble Beginnings in Roseville, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's a small town right southeast of Fayeville, so

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<v Speaker 1>fayet nomen as they call it, or whatever Port Bragg

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<v Speaker 1>area basically there. You know, my town wasn't even really

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hundred of people. My graduating class was. I had

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight kids and my senior class and I graduated

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<v Speaker 1>from high school. I can. Yeah, just a very small town.

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<v Speaker 1>And I came up playing basketball in the dirt rose

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<v Speaker 1>and you know here I am. So that's the brief story.

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<v Speaker 1>What's humble Beginnings, man? Because it means different for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It means different everybody. I'm from the city, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from inner city of l A. So different from

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<v Speaker 1>someone in Lexington, like like gee, Gee's from Lexing to

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. I got back up with me today, careful. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so my humble Yeah, you know what, Steve, I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually throughout my travels and Obviously, when I went to college,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned my humble beginnings were a lot different from

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<v Speaker 1>like some of my teammates that grew up in Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>and Newark in different places. Obviously, I was raised by

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<v Speaker 1>a village, so you know, I felt a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>love and I always had food to eat, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was it was, you know, it was. It wasn't anything

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<v Speaker 1>as a bigger sacrifice as that, but I mean basically

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, I guess for us growing up in a

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<v Speaker 1>single wide I had two sisters, two brothers with my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad and a single wide trailer. Um just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like sleeping together on top of each other

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. And my my dad and my mom didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't go to school. But my dad was a minister,

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<v Speaker 1>so our foundation was based on you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>our faith and um, my parents, my dad. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just drove us stat station wagon, drove us

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<v Speaker 1>all around. So we got made fun of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>growing up. But you know, when the the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when the welfare when they had extra food to come,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had, my mom was sent me out to

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<v Speaker 1>get the welfare cheese and the extra food that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they passed out in Sampson County. So, um, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really humble beginnings. Grew up working on the farm with

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother, um cropping tobacco, and I knew very early on.

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<v Speaker 1>I told my grandmother was gonna be doing this when

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up. So I knew there was only a

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<v Speaker 1>better life for me somewhere. How did she take that

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<v Speaker 1>that responds to your grandmother when you said, um, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she was very she you know, she said, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you worked hard and get your education, you can

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<v Speaker 1>do what you you know. She she believed in me

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<v Speaker 1>from day one, and she just told me to give

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<v Speaker 1>everything to God and give my desires to God. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she was very instrumental because growing up in the

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<v Speaker 1>country as a southern girl, I wasn't really supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be playing with the boys, and so I had to

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<v Speaker 1>fight to get on the basketball courts out on the

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<v Speaker 1>dirt courts, and I remember they wouldn't let me play.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to my grandmother. She was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the matriarch of the family, and I'll never forget she

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<v Speaker 1>came out to the court with me. She was holding

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<v Speaker 1>my hand and I was scared. I was like, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got everybody in trouble. Grandma's name. Her name was Dixie,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone called her mother. Everyone called her mother in

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<v Speaker 1>the town. So I walked over there and she was

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<v Speaker 1>like and the guy stopped because they saw walking, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, okay, boys. She was like, do we all

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<v Speaker 1>eat together? And they said yes, ma'am. They was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Chastie doesn't play, you guys won't be eating today. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the court from then all. Yeah, Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Dick did Miss Dixie? Did she have how shoes on

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time. No, But she always wore a dress.

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<v Speaker 1>She always wores Yeah, she always wore a dress. She

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<v Speaker 1>never wore pants, So we struggled with that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember coming home for church. I had gone overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was growing up. I was an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>and I came to the church with the pants soon

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<v Speaker 1>all and I'll never forget she she and all her

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<v Speaker 1>other free as at the church, though, Liken, it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna strike like they couldn't believe I walked in church

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<v Speaker 1>with the pants suit. She the reason why. She sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like she wore house shoes like she always needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready and got in case something dropped. We went

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<v Speaker 1>got that house coach that's missing the tile around, so

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<v Speaker 1>she gotta hold it like, you know, button together with

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<v Speaker 1>the fingers pinched together with her fingers thing. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a looking at you know. For sure she had

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<v Speaker 1>a rope. My mom's mom was the one that had

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<v Speaker 1>house shoes and was ready to go. She was my

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<v Speaker 1>real life media, my mom's mom. And her name was Geebo.

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<v Speaker 1>People called her Geebo. Her name was Geneva, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Gibo was Yeah, you didn't mess with Gibo at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you from a generation of are you that

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<v Speaker 1>from the time out generation or to go get your

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<v Speaker 1>switch generation? Now I'm from the go get the switch generation? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>very much so. And you got to pick the right one.

0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I got to pick the right one. And if my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad weren't available to get you know, make

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<v Speaker 1>me go get a switch. And my grandparents on my

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<v Speaker 1>aunt and uncle like, I was raised by vility, so

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<v Speaker 1>everyone had, you know, equal rights to giving you a

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<v Speaker 1>butt whopping. What experiences? What experiences did you have growing

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<v Speaker 1>growing up there? I mean outside of you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you've just explained to us that and and how did

0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:52.480
<v Speaker 1>those experiences really shape you, um and impact you to

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<v Speaker 1>see the world today? Basically almost of my experiences are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess I like idea because, um, she

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of my my grandmother's. But just my faith

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<v Speaker 1>based being in church all the time, that was my foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>So my dad was a minister, so I was basically

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<v Speaker 1>in church Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We were just

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<v Speaker 1>joking when I was at home. We would come home

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's on our basketball court when we would come

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<v Speaker 1>home from church, and we had to wait, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three or four games to get in on our own court.

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<v Speaker 1>So just that foundation has carried me. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just given me a sense of peace. Um always obviously

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<v Speaker 1>always hope, you know, always having hope, and a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that you know, the world is a bigger place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could obtained pretty much anything I wanted with

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<v Speaker 1>my faith in my work ethicum. Growing up under my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother's they always woke us up early the crack of dawn.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought we were lazy if we slept past six o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, they would come get us up over

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<v Speaker 1>the summer and work in the field. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where I learned about hard work. And I always

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<v Speaker 1>also learned how you have to work smarter to really

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<v Speaker 1>make the most money. So they taught me. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of wisdom early on. But just coming

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<v Speaker 1>from a big family, whether it was playing outside with

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin's basketball or riding dirt bikes or whatever. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>just to learn how to play, how to be a

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<v Speaker 1>team player. And I learned a lot about loyalty and

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<v Speaker 1>being good to people. Is always going to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty much it. Walk this through the process

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<v Speaker 1>as a young young chastity picking tobacco. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I asked is we're here. We're based here in Charlotte,

0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.800
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. I live in between and then I live

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<v Speaker 1>in between Charlotte slash rock Hill. So I'm in between

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<v Speaker 1>North and South Carolina. Outskirts on the outskirts and there

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<v Speaker 1>are some back rolls if you could hit the left

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<v Speaker 1>to hit the right. The first time out I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen cotton out of outside of a shirt, of a

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<v Speaker 1>of a package, a cotton ball or swab or some

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<v Speaker 1>of that has been you know, in the spring and

0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the winter or whatever, wind winds blowing and I'm like,

0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 1>what is this white stuff cotton? And seeing that, So

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<v Speaker 1>I've experienced a lot of different things here living in

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. I never experienced back home, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>give me that opportunity of you know, you've born here

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<v Speaker 1>in the South and then such a young girl getting up,

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<v Speaker 1>getting woken up, and your family faith based telling you

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<v Speaker 1>and teaching you about hard work. Yeah, it was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. My younger sister always struggled because

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<v Speaker 1>she never quite got out to the fields on top.

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<v Speaker 1>She's still late to this day, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>she learned much from that. But the momentum, um, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just for me. You know. It just gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of what our ancestors went through. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was very backbreaking work. I hated the flies, the

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<v Speaker 1>farmer's ten and just getting your hands dirty with the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting all the green from the tobaccos, the

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<v Speaker 1>tobacco worms. I was afraid of the worms. So my

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<v Speaker 1>cousins thought that was cool to chase me around with

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 1>tobacco worms. Uh. So, um, you know, we picked cucumbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I was joking with someone yesterday, like we made Kate's

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<v Speaker 1>pickles in mount all of rich because we used to

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<v Speaker 1>pick cucumbers. And then you know that was like the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, we get all the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the pick up with my uncles and take all the

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<v Speaker 1>cucumbers over there and distribute them to Kate's Pickles. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's how my grandmother got paid. So um, you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>all that's hard work and this is all we get.

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<v Speaker 1>And and as young as the kids, we never saw money.

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<v Speaker 1>Our our reward was like navs and a coat or

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of candy from the store and the coat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we got paid. You getting paid through You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid through the labor. Yeah, yeah, more with food.

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<v Speaker 1>So from our early age, I was like, there's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be more. This can't be like we have to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break and morning any thing. We gotta pay some bills.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother cut to a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast dot com. You've told us a lot about kind

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<v Speaker 1>of painting the picture of what it's like in rural

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina outside of basketball. What are the sports did

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<v Speaker 1>you play? And you mentioned playing boys versus girls? How

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<v Speaker 1>How did how did that impact your life playing with

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<v Speaker 1>the boys playing basketball so early and what other sports

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<v Speaker 1>were you playing? I played everything. I played everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we had our high school. I played in middle school.

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<v Speaker 1>I played volleyball, basketball, softball, and I ran track. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Just being able to play with the boys obviously made

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<v Speaker 1>me the player I am today, obviously prepare me to

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<v Speaker 1>be a professional athlete, because I had to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to handle the basketball i'd be. I had to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to have a quick release on my shot, or

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I wasn't able to stay on the court.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, guys are a lot faster, stronger. They blocked

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<v Speaker 1>my shot a lot when I first started playing, So

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<v Speaker 1>I had to, um really developed my game just to

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<v Speaker 1>be out there with the boys and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be successful. So I think that's I know, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>helped me become not only a great college athlete but

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<v Speaker 1>a great bro At what moment did you start to

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<v Speaker 1>think about playing in basketball beyond high school or or

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<v Speaker 1>starting to play a U When did you take that serious?

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<v Speaker 1>I started taking it serious pretty much in the fifth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Um there was another, uh, one of my classmates that

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<v Speaker 1>was taller than me, and he was a guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>played football, and we kind of just made a pact.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he was going to be a professional football player,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said I was gonna be a professional basketball player,

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<v Speaker 1>even though there weren't professional basketball teams at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just made that my goal and I fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with the game the moment I scored my

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<v Speaker 1>first basket. So I went home and told my mother

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was gonna do. So I've just been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty focused. I don't know if it was just because

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<v Speaker 1>I was young, country, you know, naive girl, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what. That was my story, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>sticking to it. So what was your mom's response when

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<v Speaker 1>you said you wanted to play basketball for a living?

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<v Speaker 1>She just said, they don't have professional teams here, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well they will when I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>and That was pretty much it. That was the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the conversation because of you or mom, Like who

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.879
<v Speaker 1>walked away for hers? I did? I said, well they

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>will when I grew up and I walked away. That

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>was it. I was into the conversation. So it's all

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<v Speaker 1>corner pocket. You're growing up, you're in high school, you

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>your knee deep in basketball. Now. Yeah, men and women's

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<v Speaker 1>basketball in North Carolina has always been a big deal, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's always you know, it's it's inspiring, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's the gift. You know what, How was it for

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you as your love for basketball grew? How was you?

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<v Speaker 1>How was watching basketball and seeing basketball? How is portrayed

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<v Speaker 1>here in North Carolina? Men and women like men and

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<v Speaker 1>women basketball? Back in the day you had what Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina like, it was some especially to women, it

0:24:55.400 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>was some baller's back then. Um, I'll never forget. In Fabville,

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, they hosted the a SEC tournament and my

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>uncle told my mom she needed to take me, and

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>so we went to that a CEC tournament. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was the I guess, like the change the

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<v Speaker 1>point as far as mentally and um, just really realizing

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that I could achieve my dream and I'll never forget it.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Was Carolina and NC State the championship game, and afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to get some autographs from the NC

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<v Speaker 1>State players and I told my mom, I'm like, okay,

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I can do it, Like I like driving back home,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that just made it a reality. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a firm believer in Like I know it's cliche,

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<v Speaker 1>but people say, you gotta see it. You know, see it,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it, and achieve it. And once I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to see that there were so many other females like

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<v Speaker 1>me that really loved the game, that just kind of

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>solidified my dream and the fact that I could achieve it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I grew up with my dad and my brothers

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<v Speaker 1>watching the NBA, so I'm very old school NBA. We

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>were a Lakers family. My dad, my brother loved Matthew Jock,

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Johnston. So um, I never really got to see

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<v Speaker 1>female pro athletes. Um, but I still held onto my

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<v Speaker 1>dream and UM so for me, I mean, I still

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>have a very find I mean, I'm very fond of

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the NBA because I took a lot of my moves

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>from like Karl Malone and Chris Webber and uh uh

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Tim Duncan inside of the post, like I was still

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.719
<v Speaker 1>moves from the post. Players like watching the NBA games

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<v Speaker 1>and that helps shape shape me as a professional athlete

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So still in the moves. Yeah, the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>So I you know, you know, you obviously with your

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 1>upbringing a c green. He was known for being a virgin.

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So did you like, did you memic his Jerry curl too? No?

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I did member his Jerry curl? But I did players

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.479
<v Speaker 1>that I was gonna be a virgin until I got married.

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Um so I did. I mean I was, and he

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>was you know obviously he did that because of his faith.

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>So that was, Um that was big for me as well.

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of, you know, I kind of admired that,

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>like wow, this and then obviously you always heard the

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>guys talking about heat maying me he maying, So you know,

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I was caught in between like is it a lie?

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Or is he really that steadfast? This is cut to

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. I'm just gonna cut right to it. I

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>had the Jerry curl. I mean I was like, how

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>many times a day did you sprinch your Jerry curl? Like?

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Was it? Guys? I got made fun of a lot

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>because I never I hated the the sprints and the

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>juice stuff. So it's a dry asked Jerry. Yeah, so

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I was terrible. I don't want to you didn't want

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>to have the juice and berries. No, I didn't want

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to have to juice some berries. And I was sweating

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot playing and I was like, this is way

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>too much. I think that scarred me for life. But yeah,

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>my middle school years where the Jerry curl was, my

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>middle school years were terrible on up until my tenth

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>grade years. So I was really like, uh, what's the

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>rapper like back then? Then? Want me now my whole story,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Quite curl all the way

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>over because it was yeah, yeah, we're wrong, all right,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>so we're moving on. Let's skip over to Jerry Carroll

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.239
<v Speaker 1>so we don't slip and fall, and let's get up

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>into your career. Right. So, doing all the research and

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>some of that stuff, and I went in there and

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I just saw some things that I just needed clarification on.

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>It says that you played in the a b L League.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>What what is the a b L? So the a

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>b L was American Basketball League and it was the

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>first professional league for women. So a lot of people

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>don't talk about it in the history of the women's

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>game because it was kind of like just I don't know,

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>there was a riff between the A b and the

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>w NBA because a BL felt like they folded because

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the w b A took all the market sponsorships and

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, and that's why the league folded. So

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>they were actually played year round in the States before

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the w n B. A was um creative and I

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>chose the A b L out of college because I

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play year round and I didn't I wanted

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to stay in the States pretty much. How different when

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you look at when you look back, how different was

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the A B L compared to the w n B A. Well,

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, um personally, for me and I think

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the players, like we are slogan was

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>real basketball and we played with the men's basketball. We

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>played during the regular basketball season along with aside the

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>NBA and college Um, we had fans. Um. It wasn't

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like a jam packed season. It was just you know,

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>just real basketball, like we played like you know, everyone else.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>And so for us, we just found pride in that.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And it had the best basketball players. And there were

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot more teams um than the w n b A.

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I think we had at least um, if I'm not mistaken,

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we had at least twenty two three teams UM. And

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>it was just great basketball and the players were passionate

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>about it because it was the first league. But unfortunately

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't get the sponsorships, couldn't get TV time, and

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it folded my rookie season. It folded at Christmas, and

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>that was a really traumatic experience for me a little bit,

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>just you know, learning, you you reach your dream and

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>then it's kind of like taking away and you're just

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>blindsided by like, you know, you get the call from

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the GM, like we no longer have a league, we

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>no longer have a team, and you no longer have

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a paycheck, and you know, it's just it was a

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>tough situation. Professionally, you played all around the world, yes,

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>so where are so many places you've played? And also

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>by playing there, you live there. Um, you know what,

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>so just take us through that first, you know where

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>where around the world, where did you play? You know,

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>did you stay there after the season? Just kind of

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>walkers through that, um through that because a lot of

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>people don't know, maybe they do. Um, there's a lot

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>of European basketball, not just in men's but also in

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>women as well. Oh yeah, definitely. I love playing overseas.

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Once the ABL folded, I got the opportunity to go

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to Spain and that's where I played my first year

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in Northea, Splain, in the city called Vego and Uh.

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Then I was fortunately drafted by the w n b

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>A after that season. So that summer I got drafted

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>by the w b A and then from then on

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>it was w n b A in the summer and

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>overseas in the fall. So I played in UM, Israel, Turkey, Spain, Korea, China, UM, Italy. Yeah,

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I played in Italy. I played in Russia, UM and

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I had a wonderful time. My favorite country is Israel.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I played there for the most part five years off

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>and on in Israel, so I have family there, my

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>doctor Israeli family. So I was looking forward to going

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>back this year because of COVID. It hasn't happened, but

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Israel is by far my first favorite country. But I enjoyed.

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean I enjoyed Turkey, I enjoyed it is I

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed every country because for me, a lot of people

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>made fun of me. But I mean I was from

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a small town and growing up, our biggest dream outside

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>just playing was like, okay, if we can get the

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>New York City. You know, we felt like we made

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it so for me to be able to travel to

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a different country and not only play basketball, but live

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and experience the culture. I took full advantage of it.

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So I enjoyed pretty much every country. Said Russia, Russia

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>was just Russia was a lot. It was too cold

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and there was no sunshine, so that was that was hard.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>What's the difference in company tension between overseas and then

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>basketball domestically here w n b A. You see a

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of players, like when you coach Diana Tarassi, what

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>is the difference in that in that competition if there

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't well, I mean, obviously we have the best players

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you can tell. You can obviously tell that from USA basketball,

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of talented players in your

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>The basketball is great for me personally, and I think

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>every player from America when you go over there, you

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>are the catalyst for that team making it to the championship.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So for me and like dinosaurrocis and different players that

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>go overseas, and the same for the guys, you have

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>all the pressure, like you can't have bad games, you

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>gotta just make it happen game in and game out.

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's a lot of pressure. So it's basically like

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>it's my team going against if I'm playing against Diana

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Troci teams, So which American is basically gonna play the

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>best and and develop and make their other teammates look

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the best. But obviously the European players can play. They're

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>very great offensively, but as far as physically and defensively,

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're still a little bit behind as uh

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>compared to us. But I think that's evolving and that's

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>changing now because so many of the players are coming

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to the w n b A or they're coming to

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>play here in college, so they're learning the more physical

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.959
<v Speaker 1>side of the game and defensively, but they're they're well

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>oil machines offensively overseas. So basically you'll go over there

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:30.439
<v Speaker 1>and you're the dragon. Back in the day, I would say,

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I would say, yeah, you know, um, just because we're

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>just it's just mentally tougher. I think it just it

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>just takes time. As you see now with Luca coming

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>over here, like these younger kids are playing, they're playing

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>more physical and also able to score and do different moves.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>That um that the games evolved and change. And obviously

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>we've had some players in the d w n B

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that have come from overseas. Uh, like one of the

0:34:56.000 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Brazilian kids killed us in the semifinals. Dantists for Minnesota

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>links from Brazil and she dominated us. You know, so

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>back in the day that would have been kind of

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>hard to really do for a kid coming from overseas.

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>So now that's changing. So either Americans got really stepped

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>their game up, or maybe it's just that's the way

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the game evolves. What did you discover about yourself in

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.720
<v Speaker 1>those places, because you obviously are going to those places.

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You you have no family. You talked about adopted family,

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but you're in Russia, you're in Spain. You are not

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Roles borrowed North Carolina. You ain't no Italians up in

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>picking cucumbers, no, right. I think that's where my box

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>um became more open. Um. I was more so closed

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 1>minded because because the NC state wasn't that different from

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>my real town. A lot of um, I mean, it

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>was Riley was still North Carolina's still southern, the southern mentality,

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the kind of the same ideal. So once I started

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>going overseas, it just really opened my mind and I

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be as close minded as I was before. But

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>as a person as a female, for me, it just

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>really built my confidence as an African American woman. Um,

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I think here in the States and

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously you guys wouldn't really experience this, but um black,

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>being a black female wasn't always beautiful, especially in our

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>natural states. So once I started going overseas to Spain

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and Italy, I will say, like, they really you know,

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I really thought, yeah, they thought beautiful. So I enjoyed that,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what the female I mean, I just a

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people say with chat that's because you were

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a past small player, But I got I got engulfed

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in the call. Sure, and I think, um, for overseas,

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>there aren't that many Black Americans there per se in general,

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>so for them to experience me in their culture and

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to you just learn to appreciate and value like opposite

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of whatever they've seen on television. Because literally, I mean

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the Americans that are over there are pretty much the

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>only black American black people there that they see, so

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, they want to touch your hair, they want

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to like they're watching everything you do and they're just

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>appreciative of it. And then when they realize, hey, you know,

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't act like what we see on television. UM,

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 1>it just showed me. UM it just you know, really

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>opened my mind and I was like, wow, like, you know,

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the stereotypes of us and how it it's all the

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it goes all the way overseas and and

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>people look at us a certain way when it's and

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>we're totally opposite. So for me, that was kind of

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>mind boggling. And so how would it make you feel?

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>And how will you navigate through it? Now? I just

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>can't being myself. I mean at the end of the day,

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I kept being myself. And I think they gained a

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 1>greater appreciation. I think the great gain to UM great

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>appreciation for other Americans UM inviting them over and now

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like you can have two or three Americans on

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the team. And so most of the clubs and the

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>organizations UM really follow that pattern and enjoyed have making

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>their teams more diverse. So I think it's a great

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>experience for anyone, Um that can go overseas and and

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and and kind of get an intertwined with the culture

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and they'll learn a lot about themselves. But I didn't

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>speak the languages, and just learning that, Um, there are

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>so many different things that are just understood whether you

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>speak the language or not, like general manners and having

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a certain sense of respect for the elders and the

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>young people, like that's how the young people treat the

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>older people. It's across the board. So UM, for me,

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I just learned basketball, spoke all languages, and UM, it's

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>really bigger than race and um and gender. I think

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>it's about that time, just so we'll take a little breathing.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.960
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<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. Let's talk bud and when in talking ball,

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 1>just really give you an opportunity, opportunity to just talk

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>ball and talk shot with us and again, like I said,

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I really don't know basketball that well.

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And give yourself some more credit, you know, bab, I

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know it to the way I wish I knew it.

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm always impressed and impressed the with how people talk

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>about it, and so I wanted to ask you, Um,

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 1>why has an analytics become a focal point of basketball

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and other in other sports? UM? So much? Well, I

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>just think it provides jobs for people who can't really

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>get into coaching, or can't who haven't played or aren't

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>as successful in the court and player development. Um. I

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's great because I think it does provide you know,

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it's an asset to coaches and teams, and

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously it provides some other jobs for people to be

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a part of the NBA organization or I mean even college.

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's become the focal point because people, you know,

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>as in all professional sports, someone wants to have an edge,

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>someone wants to know something different than uh maybe another

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>organization has, and so that's kind of having a leg

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 1>up if they can go by the analytics and make

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 1>it work for their team. UM. For me, Um, I'm

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>not against analytics, but I do feel like some things

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can't be measured, and I think that's why right there. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm super old school, but I've learned it from coaching.

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at the Miami Heat. Now, Jimmy

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Butler is still shooting, uh, you know, the mid range.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>He still has the mid range game. They're still getting

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the old fashioned and and once. And that's what I

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>used to tell people all the time, like I'm okay

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>with the three point shot, but it baffles me while

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you drive all the way to the basket and then

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you kick it out and then the guy misses the

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>three when you could have still got an old fashioned

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>three point play. So as far as analytics, you can

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>still get three points, you know, the old fashioned way.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I have my little qualms with it.

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, it does help

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>in certain aspects. As I mean, Charles Barkley wouldn't say this,

0:41:56.040 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but it does help. Is like if you're in a

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>regular season and they can pretty much calculate, Okay, the

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Lakers have been on the road for five games. When

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 1>they come home and whoever travels there, the percentages of

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>these guys shooting a bad percentage or basically they can calculate,

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, how the game's gonna go. Um. For former players,

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we already know, I mean when we travel, how it's

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. We already know those teams coming into Atlanta

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna have an off night. But the reasons that

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>most of the analytics people walk, I won't know why

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>those guys don't always play well in Atlanta, you know

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So um, at the end of the day,

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, players are pretty much like looking at analytics like, Okay,

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not rocket science, like because we just know or

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Thomas for instance, like you know he lost his sister,

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was, or you know, we have deaths

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 1>in the family, Like, it's not rocket side. You're gonna

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 1>get lit up by that dude the next game if

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>he decides to play, or that female. Like, yeah, you

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>can't measure the heart. You can't measure just the focus

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that a player is gonna have. Um. But but obviously

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it I mean there's you know, it does have its

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>credibility as far as overall giving you a picture of

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:27.720
<v Speaker 1>like eight two games season and just the different highs

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and loads of the team. So there's some good things

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>with it. But at the end of the day, there

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 1>are some things that I I believe aren't miserable. What

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>was the draft process for w NBA player, Because you know,

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously with everything going on and television, we see the documentaries,

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>but the w n B A does not have They

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>haven't had that access displayed on the television like you've

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>seen in other documentaries of higher pink um. So you know,

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>walk us through that process, um, even for yourself and

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>for other players that we don't get to see because

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we see it and we just see what the

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 1>camera shows, which is the glitch and glamour. But there's

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that go on behind the scenes

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that we have no idea about. Yeah, there's so many

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>untold stories as a w BA and they're great stories, um,

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>but because of the short amount of coverage we get

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and just the fact that I don't know if it's

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>networks or just individuals don't want to put a camera

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>on that or don't think it's significant enough. But there

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>are so many different factors affecting female athletes and more

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>so just off the court, um, just as a female athlete,

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a female in general trying to join um professional sports,

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of male dominated era arenas. UM. So

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>for the fortitude the player, UM, a female athlete has

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to have just becomes stereotypes and um the different challenges

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 1>that come with wanted to be a professional ball player. UM,

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>not only from you know, just those in their circle

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and their culture. I mean black males, black females, like

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of black females are like looking

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>at black UM female athletes like what the hell are

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you doing? You know, or like putting certain negative stereotypes

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>on us on the way we looked where our bodies

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>are and um, um you know everything that comes along

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>with that, whether they're straight, gay, whether they're UM, whatever

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 1>their political activists, whatever they go for. Like there's we're

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 1>always being criticized. So I think it would be great

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to get the behind scene stories of a player getting

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>drafted and everything they've gone through their through their college

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>career on from their high school career to become a

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>pro UM. But it's challenging, and I hope that I

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>just told someone. Being in the wall whole it was

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>an eye opener for me because of everything that's going

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 1>on in the world, UM with racism and just poor leadership, UM,

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>police brutality, everything that's going on. Like we were in

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the wobble, we had you have the male w NBA coaches,

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>we have the female w NBA coaches. We have black, white,

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>we have Australian, different nationalities in the bobble. We have

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>players from overseas. Like I said, then we have you know,

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.240
<v Speaker 1>your mama, your mothers were there with their baby daddy's.

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Then we had wives there with their husband and their kids.

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Then we had the same sex relationships. Um, we had

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 1>people of voicing UM using their voice for activism. And

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 1>then we have people from the league office that were

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>also in the wobble. So for me, I said, Wow,

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 1>this is the US, and this is as diverse as

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you can get, you know. And for me, just the

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>total respect and admiration that everyone had for each other

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>was beautiful And if the world could be like that,

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it would be an awesome place to be. So for

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.439
<v Speaker 1>us to get to experience each other on and off

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the court and see the different dynamics day in and

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 1>day out, because we all were in that in that

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>bubble together, at the hotel, at the lodges, at the pool,

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>eating dinner together. Um, it was a beautiful thing. So

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I hope ESPN or someone was there with cameras to

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of get that and hopefully they can make a

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>documentary of it because it is um. I think it

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>would you know, opens up people's eyes a lot. Two

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>different type of women we have in the league, not

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>women also, but just to me, and we had great

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>men coaches there as well that were very supportive. I

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>love your illustration and your analogy of how everything was

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.280
<v Speaker 1>essentially under one roof when it came to the bubble

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>or the bubble. How did you protect your mental psyche

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>while you're in that bubble. They had resources for us,

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>but I think it was just, um, just having that

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>camaraderie and being able to talk to each other, giving

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>our players, just still giving them a day to themselves, um,

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>whether they just wanted to hang out by themselves because

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously you're seeing the same people every day

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 1>that could be overwhelmed me too, and not just kind

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>of having to put on when you were kind of

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>like just down or feeling like I gotta get out

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>of this bubble. You know, like some nights I'd be

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like I just got to drive somewhere. It's like you

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>can't do it. Um. But there were a lot of

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sponsors. People did different things virtually with

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the players, so, um, they had a lot of things online.

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people were sending them free gifts and uh,

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>free makeup, free hair products. So the females are spoiled

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. We were spoiled a little bit. Well,

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say we'd because the coaches didn't get it

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>with the players got a lot of I would sneak

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.280
<v Speaker 1>down there and be like, I was a forward player,

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 1>but they got a lot of great gifts to you know,

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of make their day, you know, by surprise. Um.

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And then once the game started just kind of started

0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:59.919
<v Speaker 1>flying by once the game started. So I think Men's

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone was just made it through. But there were a

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of resources for them to have people to talk to.

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we chastity. Our Our last segment is called

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the Deep Three, and these are just three questions that

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we asked to go beyond the jersey, to go beyond

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the court. And so what we're gonna do is go

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>ahead and set this up for you to me is

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you the first question, but it's really to

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>just take this to a deeper level and get a

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>better understanding of Chastity. Okay, well, Chastity, you talked about

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 1>your faith. You talked about Grandma Dixon and how, um

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>what she was, and how your dad and your mom,

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>how you were raised faith based. When is it time

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of your When was it the time of your life

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>where your faith was tested? Um. The first time my

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>faith was tested, I believe, is when I encountered a

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 1>relationship with with that of the same sex, and up

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:57.959
<v Speaker 1>until that point I had never engaged in that. And

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>once I told my friends about did I for never forget?

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I actually called my ex boyfriend at the time and

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:04.439
<v Speaker 1>I told him what happened. He was like, You're gonna

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>go to hell. It was so judgment I could laugh

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>about it now, but it's it really hurt my feelings.

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Um but um, just being raised in the church and

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>how people started, um reacting to my parents and to

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>me per se. It was just I get where people

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>say Christianity is so judgment people are so judgmental, and um,

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the fact that everything I had did up there and

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the fact that my personal relationship is my personal relationship

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>just kind of went out the door, and it was

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>just like, You're going to hell? What are you doing?

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 1>So for me. My faith was tested, and I had

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>a huge battle. You know, as far as everything that

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought I knew about God and I thought I

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.880
<v Speaker 1>knew about my faith, was just like, I don't want this.

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>If this is what my faith is about, I don't

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>want it. But obviously it also made me closer to God.

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:58.919
<v Speaker 1>And it made me learned just how much God's love

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>for me is so real and um and ever since then,

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's been on a pop in DJ rocket,

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jesus rocks and I am forever God's child

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and I am I'm always promote my faith and I'm helping.

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to help others that are challenged, um in

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 1>any realm of their Christian waw Um Like I look

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 1>at some of the rappers now Chance the Rapper and

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>um Lacree and how the church did them and how

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:32.319
<v Speaker 1>they still you know, spread their music regardless you know

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 1>what people think about it, because it's all about a

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:38.399
<v Speaker 1>personal relationship. And so my faith was truly tested. Um.

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I disengaged from the church. UM, I had a rift

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.359
<v Speaker 1>with my family. But at the end of the day,

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it made me stronger and it made my faith stronger.

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Now you said you were you said it hurt your feelings? Yeah,

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>what what Obviously outside of them saying you're going to

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:03.319
<v Speaker 1>help what particular if if it's if it's okay for

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>me to ask what was what particular thing or singular

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>multiple things that they do or say that that that

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>hit that chord that made that wound. I believe, you know,

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:19.799
<v Speaker 1>the wound was more so when I talked to my

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend. It was like, I told you guys, I

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to wait till I got married. And obviously that

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't an issue with my boyfriend. You know, I was

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>still gonna go to heaven if I I was with them,

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, even though we weren't married, and you know,

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:36.439
<v Speaker 1>just seeing a lot of the um, the negativity that

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I saw a lot of guys doing a

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. Obviously I hung out with a lot

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.280
<v Speaker 1>of guys. I was friends with a lot of guys,

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was okay for them to do certain things

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and not pay respect to the women or you know,

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 1>just and I never judged people. I never I was

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:55.840
<v Speaker 1>never looking, but it was just like when that happened

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to me, it was like all this stuff people are

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:02.400
<v Speaker 1>doing and you know, I'm the bad person. For it.

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So Um. I think that's why the wound was so

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.360
<v Speaker 1>big because um, you know, I had expressed my faith

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>so much, and I had allowed my friends and my

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 1>family and people in my circle to be who they were,

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um, and so once I felt like wow,

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I did something that was basically out of my realm

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 1>or people didn't see it coming. Um, it was just

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the end all. And so for me, I think that's

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>why the wound was so big. Like I think if

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I would have had a baby, or if I would

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 1>have dated a married man, or I could have done

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.280
<v Speaker 1>anything else and it wouldn't have been as bad as that.

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 1>That's so that was that was that was pretty challenging

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to deal with. And how were those relationships today? They're

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>much better today, I will say they're much better today.

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:51.799
<v Speaker 1>And I believe they're much better today only because of

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:54.439
<v Speaker 1>the God in me and that they saw that God

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>because of my faith. Is because my faith is so strong, Um,

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're just I think, like I like I tell

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>people all the time, you don't have to preach someone

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to become a Christian. You don't have to be like um,

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, port put God on people or anything like that.

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Like God is bigger than all of us, and so

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:19.240
<v Speaker 1>what he does in my life is just going to

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.760
<v Speaker 1>be seen by others in their own way. It's nothing

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to do. So I think down the line,

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>people saw that and my dad, UM, I think the

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>breaking point is and my dad and I had a

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 1>conversation and you know, we really talked about it from

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a faith standpoint, and UM, everything just kind of changed

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 1>after that. So it's much better. M What do you

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>hope a young girl that's in Roseberg today that wants

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to play basketball experiences differently than what you did? Um,

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Just to love themselves no matter what. UM, don't feed

0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>into the stereotypes, and just they get out of their

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 1>own way. UM at the end of the day, And

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:03.759
<v Speaker 1>that's why I wrote my book. At the end of

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the day. I spoke a little bit about it in

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that book as a short read. But UM, God created us,

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 1>each of us with a unique talent. And I believe

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 1>some people feel like they don't have a talent or

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.320
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a gift. But everyone has a talent

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and a gift. So for that young girl of that

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:21.399
<v Speaker 1>young boy growing up, you know, figure out what your

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.879
<v Speaker 1>gift is, which your talent is no matter how big

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>or how small. But um, what you do with that

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 1>talent a gift is your gift back to God and

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you know He'll give you a platform to use it

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to the best of your ability. Mmm. Final one, you

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about your family, but you know, Um, for me, Uh,

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, my mom and dad are still alive, but

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 1>my grandparents had a huge impact on me. And I

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>could tell very much so that your your grandmother had

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:58.520
<v Speaker 1>an impact on you. What would you want to hear

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>from Grandma diction right now about the woman you are today?

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>From both my grandmother's Jeebo and Dixie, Just that they're

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 1>proud of me. Um, that's it. Um my parents, I

0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:15.319
<v Speaker 1>have great parents, Um, and I am very I am

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>who I am today because my parents and sacrifices they

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>made and the foundation they built for me. But my

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:24.839
<v Speaker 1>grandmother's were they kind of raised me in a way

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>because I was so different and I think, I mean

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 1>grandmothers just loved their grandkids differently, so we're special in

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:35.400
<v Speaker 1>their eyes no matter what, as opposed to Mom and

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Dad are mad at you for mistakes or how they

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>think you should be my grandmother's you know, me chasing

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 1>a basketball and not being in the kitchen cleaning. They

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>still loved me and respected me for who I was,

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 1>so I think that was instrumental and for me, I

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>would just love to hear them say they're proud of me.

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And I took advantage of a lot of opportunities that

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have. My grandmother's barely finished high school. They

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.919
<v Speaker 1>worked hard all their lives up to seven years old.

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 1>They never flew on the plane. I regret not taking

0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 1>them on the plane, but they were scared to get

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>on the plane, so that was hard. But so for

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 1>me to have all these opportunities, I just would love

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:12.399
<v Speaker 1>to hear them say they're proud of me, and I'm

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 1>sure they are. I literally can talk to you for

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the next five hours because you have so many nuggets.

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>You have so much wisdom, but you also have so

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>much experience and you've seen the world. Thank you so much,

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for your time, um, and actually thank

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 1>you for who you are. Absolutely, thank you. Thank you guys.

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Steve. Keep being you, you guys, keep rocking

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it out. She said something that stuck out to me.

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 1>She talked about basketball, speaking across all languages and basically

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:54.360
<v Speaker 1>being a conduit for so many different people. What's your

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 1>reaction to that. Do you feel basketball or any sport

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:04.560
<v Speaker 1>is every sport because when you're playing basketball, unlike when

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you feel out of application, either for job, school, whatever

0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the case may be, you have to put so many

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 1>things race age, address, blah blah blah blah blah, like

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>all these things. And then in basketball you just play right.

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You could be the tallest, shortest, you know, not the fittest,

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be, but your race age, none

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff matters, doesn't It's can that female or male,

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 1>tall or short put the ball in the hoops. We

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 1>may not know the scheme of basketball, but you know

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the object is that team has to outscore the other

0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 1>teams put the ball in the correct And but what really,

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 1>what really stood out to me the most is her

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about her trip overseas and just seeing and learning

0:58:56.720 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 1>about herself. And then she said something that was interesting

0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that we've heard from a lot of athletes is she

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>had no confidence going overseas and and she gained confidence

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in herself as a black female. She's already they are

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 1>paying her, they bought her flight, they put it on

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the airplane, they flew her over. And yet she still

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 1>has no confidence. Yes, And I thought that was really cool.

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I love the transparency. I thought that was excellent. I

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>also was intrigued about her different um how going all

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 1>these different countries with a shape that molded her to

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>where why she's probably gonna be a head coach pretty

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 1>soon in the w NBC because she has so much diversity.

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>She has such a great history um with people that

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>she has the ability to connect right. She I can

0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>imagine based off she She's wroting a book, She's done

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<v Speaker 1>all these things, right. She's the type of person, well

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<v Speaker 1>I call it a social butterfly that you get jealous

1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like she always can just she seems like she can

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<v Speaker 1>spark up a conversation with anybody, right and just be

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the life of the party no matter what I'm And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always jealous of those people because I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that confidence in me to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, maybe am I gonna say something stupid?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Stepping outside? Yeah, stepping on outside of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>She she does that very well. Um, we didn't get

1:00:37.600 --> 1:00:42.880
<v Speaker 1>into it, but she has been she's assistant coach. However,

1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:47.640
<v Speaker 1>she has been asked to speak to the team at

1:00:47.720 --> 1:00:52.200
<v Speaker 1>times in critical situations, just very rarely is the assistant

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:55.880
<v Speaker 1>coach the voice of the team. So a lot of

1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>big personalities, solid Brittany, So that says a lot about her.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. So I we were it was a treat

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<v Speaker 1>for us. It was. It was definitely it was a

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<v Speaker 1>snicker doodle right there, right it was. It was really

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<v Speaker 1>a treat for us. So I enjoyed that. And her

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<v Speaker 1>talking about her grandparents and talking about her humble beginnings

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<v Speaker 1>really really cool. You are a unique person. You are

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<v Speaker 1>well worth it, you are competent, and most of all,

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<v Speaker 1>your lovable. I'm Steve Smith Singer, I'm Gerard Little John

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