1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Dirty birds, what's up and welcome back. I've got Tory 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: mclaney and Tarren Wack, Will McFadden here with you. The 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Pads came on for the first time in training camp. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: So on today's docket is just breaking down the energy, 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: the kind of what we saw out there from the trenches, 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: the run game, a lot of good stuff. And then 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: on the back end, you guys will get to hear 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: from Dan Graziano, who does some amazing work over at ESPN. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: So loaded show today. Taren, We're gonna start with you though. 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Hi gods came on, how you doing? 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Hello, Yes, I'm here. 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: He just gave me like the most innocent look. So 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: what was what were the overall just kind of feelings 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: and vibes from practice today? 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: The first two plays really showed from the bat of 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: eleven eleven work the enthusiasm that the team has with 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: Pads on because Carlos Washington Junior took the ball and 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: ran at the first play and you could just hear 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: both sides on the sideline being like oh, like you 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: could hear the clash and then the eruption of cheers, 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: like didn't even matter how far he got, just like 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: the beating banging was finally present and it kind. 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: Of excited both sides of the ball. 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: And then on the second play Carlos Washington Junior at 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 3: it again. There was a little scuffle like it wasn't 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: nearly as big as Sunday, and we didn't record a 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: podcast after Sunday, so to. 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: Recap quickly, there were two. 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: Rather large fights and a third minor one, so they 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: were pretty aggressive too. 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: But today, aka, what. 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: Day of the week is it today, it's we're at. 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: The point in training camp where I don't know what day. 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: It's practice, that's right, Yeah, yeah, it's practice for I 35 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: don't know what day it is. But for practice four 36 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: they came together and it was like a little bit 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: of like, uh, oh, is it going to happen again? 38 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: But it settled down really quickly, which I know is 39 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: what Raheem Morris said he wanted to see. It's what 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: Jeff Oldbrooks said, he wanted to see. It's what Dayne 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: Ludford said he wanted to see after Sunday's practice where 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't what they wanted to see because it crossed 43 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: the line. But yes, pads on and the excitement is there. 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're kind of in the process of fine tuning. 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the mindset mentality that they want, 46 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: and Raheem has been very quick to say, look, I'm 47 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: not putting an identity on anybody. The identity is born 48 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: out there on the field, but it is clear that 49 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: they want to see a certain type of makeup and 50 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: mentality from this group, and so far, I think they've 51 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: done a decent job of cultivating that. Again, it's spilled 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: over a little bit into some intense moments, but I 53 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: think they'll they'll take that to get you ultimately where 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: you want to go. One thing that you never really 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: want to see, in addition to fights out there on 56 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: the fielder are injuries. And we did get a little 57 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: bit of an injury update from Raheem Morris about Darnell 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Mooney today tour. You want to walk us through that. 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, as we noted in podcasts previously, Darnell Mooney 60 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 5: on the very first day of practice goes down pretty 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 5: hard with a deep ball from Michael Pennix, lands on 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 5: his shoulder, walks off on his own with the trainer 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 5: and it was a shoulder injury, going to be out 64 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: for a. 65 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Few weeks, and that was kind of where things landed. 66 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 5: Well. Today was the first day that we really got 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 5: to talk to Raheem Moore specifically about that injury and 68 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 5: about what the prognosis is. And I and this is 69 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: funny because this is where I was. And I was like, 70 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: I even said to Will and Tara before we started recording, 71 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 5: I was like, am. 72 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: I reading too much into this? 73 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 5: Because he was asked or he Morris was asked today 74 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 5: during his press are like what is the prognosist for 75 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 5: Darnal Mooney? Like are you concerned at all about him 76 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: potentially being ready for week one? And instead of being like, no, 77 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 5: we're not worried about him not being ready for week one, 78 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 5: it was like, well, it's a few weeks and we'll 79 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: reevaluate at that point. And in my head I was 80 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 5: like like, because you're. 81 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Such a pessimists, such a worry work. 82 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: I know, I truly am, like, have you been talking 83 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: to my therapist? 84 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: But they're all gone. 85 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: I've broken two nails literally today, I have two boy 86 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: nails and three girl nails, and so I, I, honest 87 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: to goodness, was just sitting there and and I was like, oh, 88 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 5: this mean this is not good, Like this means that 89 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 5: potentially Darnel Mooney, Like are we really talking about not 90 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 5: having Darnell Mooney for week one? And it kind of 91 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 5: led to my question that I presented to Raheem, like 92 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: a couple of bit and later like, hey, going back 93 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 5: to Darnell Mooney, like who's kind of the replacement now? 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Who who is more? Who's value on. 95 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 5: This roster kind of increased with the more with more 96 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: opportunity to see the field. And he answered it pretty well, 97 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 5: talking about like Darnell being the X and like how 98 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 5: you have clones. 99 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Of guys which is not right. There is interesting Darnell 100 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: being the because I think body type wise, you look 101 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: at Drake and be like that's that's your ex. 102 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, but but no that Raheem was very adamant that, like, Nope, 103 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: that's Darnell's spot and. 104 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: So and you see a lot more of Ray Rumcloud. 105 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: You've seen a lot more of like the like the 106 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: duos of. 107 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 5: Instead of it being kind of a Ray Ray McCloud 108 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 5: Darnell Mooney, Drake London lineup, it's more Drake London, Ray 109 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 5: rym McCloud. And then a couple of tight ends like 110 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 5: Hodge has been in there, so it's been interesting. But 111 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: I say all that to ultimately say, like I took 112 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 5: it as, oh, like it was like. 113 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: A little bit of a worrying show. 114 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah I was. 115 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: I took it as being like the fact that Rahem 116 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 5: didn't come out and just be like, well, like we're 117 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: trying to be overly cautious. It's training camp, like it'll 118 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 5: be a few weeks like and then, but we're not 119 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 5: worried about him not being there for week one. It 120 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 5: was it was no, it was like, well, it's a 121 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: few weeks and we'll reevaluate after those few weeks. 122 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Did y'all take it out? Did you take that turn? 123 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: It didn't ring any bells in my head. 124 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: I just I'm just care. 125 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: I kind of just took it as. 126 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: A few weeks and then we'll figure it out. Like 127 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: I took it as they're not worried because it was 128 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 3: said so las fair. 129 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: That's I kind of took it that way too, where 130 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: it was more just we we don't necessarily have any specifics. 131 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: It's still early and there is no real urgency to 132 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: get Darnell out there for preseason, like even if he 133 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: was healthy, let's say he comes back before that first 134 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: preseason game, I would probably be of the opinion that, like, hey, 135 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: that's all well and good for him, put him in 136 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: bubble wrap, and then we'll see week one Darnell. So like, 137 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: even given that that is kind of the case, I 138 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: took it as like a few weeks, we'll re evaluate 139 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: where we are and then kind of give an update 140 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: from there. Yeah, okay, so hopefully hopefully that's the case. 141 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: I do also think because we've seen him at practice 142 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: and it's not like he has a sling or. 143 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, he's walking shoulder before. 144 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: If it's that is. 145 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: True, Will has hurt his shoulder before he has, he 146 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 5: told us about it. 147 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: What was it? Wakeboarding? 148 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: That was That was the second time. The first time 149 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: was motorbiking, which makes me sound way cooler than I 150 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: actually am. Like maybe that's why I don't actually do 151 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: action sports because like the two times I've done him, So, uh, 152 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: don't don't run away with that too. I'm not that cool. 153 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: But let's real quick before we kind of get to 154 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: a bit of a shorter episode today up top because 155 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: of the Dan Grausiano conversation in the back end. So 156 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to Camp Champion in just a second 157 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: and kind of use that as an avenue to talk 158 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: about a couple of other players. But before we do, 159 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: we have seen a little bit of kicking battle kind 160 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: of take place over the last couple of practices, Taren, 161 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: I know you have been eagle eye on that. I 162 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: guess falcon I would be the better place better than 163 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: to say, but what have you seen from the kicking battle? 164 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: Well, the first time we saw them kick any field 165 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: goals and them as in Young Wayku and Lenny Creek. 166 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: I always want to say Kenny because Lenny the kicker, right, 167 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: but it's Lenny Kreeg was on Sunday and on Sunday 168 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: Kreig hit all five of his and Coup was four 169 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: or five. And today they both kicked five apiece again 170 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: and they were both four or five. Lenny Kreig missed 171 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: from around fifty five yards out and Young Way did 172 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: the same. We noted his as fifty four yards out. 173 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: So it's a really like tight battle at the moment. 174 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: I do think this is a really big position battle 175 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: for this off season. 176 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Yep. 177 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, special teams. 178 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, ars sitting around like finally other people are going 179 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: to pour as much attention into Special teams as. 180 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: Me our resident beat reporter for special teams. 181 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: And so yeah, they're both kicking. Well, they both look strong. 182 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: I mean you're off by one at this point. It 183 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: has only been two practices, but it is something worth 184 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: monitoring and seeing what kind of reps they get as 185 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: time goes on. 186 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I just kind of like visually, kriegs 187 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: kicks seem almost a little bit more like a wedge 188 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: in golf where there's a little more air under it, 189 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: and I think Young Ways are kind of more of 190 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: a driving kick. 191 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: They look so different. 192 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea what what to do with that information, 193 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: but I'm just giving it to you, Like that's so 194 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: my eye, that's what we've seen. 195 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one with kickers. 196 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: It's one of those things that you're just like, I mean, 197 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: I'll let them do what they do as long as 198 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: they're making the kicks, Like, I really don't care how 199 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 5: they get personal preference. 200 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it doesn't matter if you got a 201 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: high arcing drop or you just kicking going through the 202 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: upright and true. 203 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 204 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: It has been really cool though, is because we have 205 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: seen Young Wayku so much in Atlanta already to finally 206 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: get a look up close and personal of Lenny Creek, 207 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: and he can kick. I remember he's like fifty five 208 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: yarder on Sunday we were like the media members and 209 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: I were all like that could have gone another. 210 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: Ten yards, like he's got a leg. 211 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: And so it really is a competition for I'm not 212 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: gonna say for lack of a better word, because that 213 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: it is the word. 214 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: The word. Yeah, and especially when you kind of saw 215 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: the contract that they signed Creed two initially with three. Yeah, 216 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: So like that that gave you this is a legitimate competition, 217 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: like they're they're truly going to battle it out. 218 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: UK special teams, special players, special players. 219 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: There you go. But let's go ahead and talk about 220 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: a couple of special players in the Camp Champ segment 221 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Camp Champ working on my segways. You see that, I'm 222 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: say Taren will start with you defensively. 223 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: Who you got, Well, you set me up. You gave 224 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: away that it's going to be a defensive player. 225 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: So there's like forty eight people. 226 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with James Pierce juniorj He is 227 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: just everywhere on that field right now, like you can 228 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: see him working his butt off to show I don't 229 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: even want to say to prove himself, but to show 230 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: what he's capable of. He is being lined up on 231 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: both sides, so you see him when he's with the 232 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: second team defense going against the first team offensive line. 233 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: So he's lining up against Cale McGary and Jake Matthews 234 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: and then he's also going up against Charlie Warner and 235 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: Tigan Quittoriano. 236 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it. 237 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: I was nervous about that present. 238 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: No pronunciation, that couldn't have been. 239 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: That couldn't have been better. 240 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 5: Diming And on that note, JPJ No, he has he's 241 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: So that was my story from today was really talking 242 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: about James Feast Senior and the infectious passion. 243 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: That I feel like he is bringing. 244 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: And I say that because that is something that has 245 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: come up in every conversation that I feel like we 246 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 5: were in today. Is James Pearce Junior setting the tone 247 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: for physicality, for energy. 248 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 249 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 5: And I was talking to Leonard Floyd and we were 250 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 5: talking to him about Sunday's practice when James Fears Junior 251 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 5: was in the middle of a few little skirmishes and 252 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: I remember thinking on Sunday like, that's what you want. 253 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: You have a defensive coordinator in Jeff Wholbrick, who says, 254 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: we want to be a violent defense. We want to 255 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: dictate terms on our terms, and so you challenge your 256 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 5: defense to do that, regardless if there's pads on or not. 257 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: If you challenge someone like James Fears Junior to go 258 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 5: and knock ups on somebody, like that's what he's gonna do. 259 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 5: And he was doing that, And it was funny because 260 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: Leonard Floyd was like, hey, like at one point, I 261 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: turn around and I see a bunch of white jerseys 262 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 5: just kind of scatter around this one little black jersey 263 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 5: of James Pearson. I'm going in, like I'm going to 264 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 5: check in on my guy, whether he's right or whether 265 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 5: he's wrong. And I'm sitting there kind of laughing. But 266 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: I do think it's indicative of you know what. 267 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd is saying. He's like he was ready to work. 268 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: He's ready to work. 269 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: That was the thing that stood out was too. It 270 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we're it's like a rider die defense. 271 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm jumping in no matter what. But also like he's 272 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: done the right things, which makes me want to jump 273 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: in for him. 274 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm like keep doing it, like and that 275 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 5: was the theme of today is like the defense is 276 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: playing with some edge and no pun intended. James Fears 277 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: Junior has a lot of edge. He has a lot 278 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 5: of juice. It's something that we talked to area scouts 279 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: about immediately after the draft and what he brings in 280 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: terms of his level of juice and just getting after 281 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: the quarterback. And he's not gonna slow up or stop 282 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 5: for anyone. And you talk about wanting to prove yourself 283 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 5: or maybe even not maybe just showing up. But Jockey's Smith, 284 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 5: who is the outside linebackers coach for the Falcons, he 285 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 5: was very much like, yeah, it is a little bit 286 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 5: of like, hey, I am the rookie, but and you 287 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 5: are the vetch Jake Matthews, You've been here for twelve 288 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 5: freaking years. Like, but I'm gonna show you what I've 289 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 5: got and to prove that you know I got something too. 290 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: And I think, like that's been fun for me to watch. 291 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: I mean, how many times have we. 292 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: Been able to kind of say that there is that 293 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 5: juice coming off of the edge this early in training camp, 294 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 5: before the pads even went on. 295 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Now the pads are on and he's doing. 296 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: He's backing it up right exactly, And I like what 297 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: you said about like, I'm going to show you what 298 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: I got because we know James Pearce's is not, you know, 299 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: the biggest talker. And although wouldn't it be so funny 300 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: if just like in practice, he's running his mouth NonStop, 301 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: it's just the biggest chattermouth in the right. 302 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. 303 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: That would be an amazing aspect of his game, Like 304 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: I would want to know. I would want him micd 305 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: up week one for sure. 306 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: For sure. 307 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, I'm going to flip over to the other 308 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: side of the ball for my Camp Champion because one 309 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: thing that's just stuck out so clearly to me, and 310 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: it's the aspect of the offense we thought was maybe 311 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: going to be the most clear cut the same because 312 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: it's worked. I kind of think there's going to be 313 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: some changes to the run game this year. And I 314 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: don't mean like it personnel or anything like that. Obviously, 315 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Jean and Tyler are going to be out there maybe 316 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: at the same time. You know, I would love to 317 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: see that, but I do. I feel like I've just 318 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: noticed some more gap influence in this and I'll obviously 319 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: they've been a big outside zone team ever since Dwayne 320 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: Ledford has been here, and it fits the personnel. But 321 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: now that you're changing center a little bit, you do 322 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: have have Tyler and they have talked about one and 323 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: he gets more explosive plays for Bijon. If you listen 324 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: to the podcast with Ben Solak a few weeks ago, 325 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: you know north south is the quickest way to get 326 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: those explosive plays. So just again file that away, I 327 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: think getting that run game going. So the premier benefactor 328 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: of that so far to me has been Tyler all year, 329 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: which is why he's my camp chip. 330 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: Okay, great, because that was the thing is I was like, 331 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: why are you. 332 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: Looking at me? But I realized I literally never said 333 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: I know. 334 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: I was like I was, I was going to help 335 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: you out. I was going to be like and champions Tyler. 336 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: Yes, good, good points Tyler Alger talk about. 337 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: Was your clincher. 338 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 339 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: So with all of this, it's something that Will and 340 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: I have actually talked a lot about in the last 341 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: in the four practices that we've been able to see. 342 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 5: Is this this gap style influence and the evolution of 343 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: the run game and. 344 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: How much do you even though this out zone is your. 345 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: Bread and butter just Havingajon Robinson jump it to the outside, 346 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 5: run behind Chris Lynstrom, Kayler McGary down the right side 347 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: of this line. That is what works from something, Why. 348 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: To get away from something that's working. 349 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 5: But today, and to your point about Tayler Algier, today, 350 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 5: there was this one moment specifically where they started to 351 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 5: it looked like kind of an outside zone to the 352 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 5: right with Tyler Algier, but instead of continuing behind Chris 353 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: Slistrum and Kayla McGary, you had Matthew Bergron pulling up 354 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 5: beside Chris Lynstrom through that a gap, and then Tyler 355 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 5: Argier running behind Matthew Bergron. And that was the one 356 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 5: that it was the one time that I felt like 357 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: today it truly felt like something broke open, and not 358 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: in a manufactured way, in a way that really was 359 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 5: beautifully blocked. 360 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: And schemed in that way. 361 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 5: And it was it was the one time that I 362 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: felt like with Tyler Algier, I was like, there he is, 363 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: like that's it, that's the one. So I I love 364 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: this this Camchamp specifically for that moment, but also to 365 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 5: what we're seeing in scheme and influence and also a 366 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: little bit something about Robert Mays is gonna be on 367 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: the podcast really soon. And something that I talked to 368 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: him a lot about was the RAMS influence and how 369 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: the RAMS also you know, you think back to like 370 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and you know, being an outside zone. 371 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Tod, you just get him to the outside, 372 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: get him around the defense, and let him turn on 373 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: the field. 374 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, let him turn a corner and get gone. But 375 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: there to a certain extent, good defenses pick up on that. 376 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: So it's I almost wonder if, to your point, if 377 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: this is Zach Robinson trying to get ahead of that 378 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: to be like, hey, teams, know how good we are 379 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 5: running the ball behind like just bouncing it to the 380 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: outside down the right side of this this field. Let's 381 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: maybe not do that as much, Let's not go to 382 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: it as much. And so it's it's interesting to see 383 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 5: how much this is evolving within the context too of 384 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: you now have Michael PENNOCKX and the pocket. He's going 385 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: to stretch the ball way downfield, as we've seen time 386 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: and time again. I don't know, it's an interesting conversation. 387 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: It's one that I'm like, let's put a pin in 388 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: and come back to it in week seven to see 389 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 5: how much of this is actually showing up in real games. 390 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Well, and you brought up Robert Is. They recently just 391 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: had a show on The Athletic Football Show, a great 392 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: podcast recommended to everybody, but really recommend It was what 393 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: lessons can we learn from the league's best offenses last year? 394 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: And kind of the point I'll make about this is 395 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: the continuity of Atlanta's offensive line I do think allows 396 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: them to kind of work on something like this. And 397 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: the point they made on that show using a team 398 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: like Buffalo, Right, Buffalo used a lot of like six 399 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: offensive linemen sets last year, which is a weird thing. 400 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: So the more like nuances and wrinkles you can have 401 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: as an offense, the more that teams like, the menu 402 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: of what they have to prepare for and a given 403 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: a week expands. So for the Falcons having an offensive 404 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: line that's been together and Ryan Neusel starting eight games 405 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: last year, they know how to run outside zone. Yeah, 406 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: they know how to run outside zone in their sleep 407 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: with their eyes closed. So now that affords you the opportunity, 408 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: I think to maybe work on some other things where 409 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: for another team, maybe in your one with their offensive 410 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: coordinator or their offensive line or one they're still installing 411 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: what would otherwise be maybe a more simple type of philosophy, 412 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: but here you get to build on it because of 413 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: what that continuity affords you. 414 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 4: I like it. 415 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 5: And let's just be real too. I you know, I 416 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: think that to your point about having Ryan Neuzl in there, 417 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 5: I think people are sleeping on Rye Noozle right now 418 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 5: because I have been very impressed. I know they're not 419 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 5: running at one hundred percent capacity. 420 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: They're snoozling there. 421 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 2: They're snooze. 422 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're snooze. 423 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: They're snoozing on Noozle. 424 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, snoozles snoop. 425 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: The snoozles I got were offt that one in We're 426 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: off the rills. 427 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 5: I I think that what he has been over the 428 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 5: four practices and what I feel like, you know, I'll 429 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 5: be honest. I was the first one to say like 430 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 5: I wasn't one hundred percent sold on the Falcons decision 431 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 5: to go full like no holds bar on Ryan Noozle 432 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 5: being the starting center. I'm like, this is an undrafted 433 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 5: free agent you're not even gonna bring in like. 434 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: Some veteran competition. 435 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 5: And he has pleasantly surprised me in his role, I 436 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 5: think even within that as well, and having this more 437 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: like gap style run game. 438 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: His piece of this matters too. And I wanted, I 439 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: just wanted to give Ryan Noozle his flowers. 440 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 5: And Rucuroro said, and I quote that he is stump 441 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 5: like like a tree stump, and it has become my 442 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 5: favorite quote of training camp so far. 443 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got stumps, we got Snoozles. He's just endearing 444 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: himself left and right. He's like just the best. Yeah, 445 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: my favorite center in the NFL by far. All right, 446 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: well we have talked for a long time. Let's let's 447 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: keep talking. But let's do so with Dan Grasiano of ESPN. 448 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: So again, thank you guys so much for listening today. 449 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Our next show will come Friday, So for anybody you 450 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: know following along marking their calendars, be on the lookout 451 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: for that. It'll be after the third padded practice. But 452 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: for now, let's go ahead and get to Dan Graziano, 453 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: NFL insider. Dan Graziano joins me works fre ESPN does 454 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: an incredible job over there. Dan, thank you for taking 455 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: the time. My pleasure will so we are talking on Saturday. 456 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: The Falcons just wrapped up their second open training camp practice. 457 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: A lot of fans out on the hill. Yeah, pretty 458 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: hot out there. What was kind of your initial impression 459 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: of the team. 460 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 6: Well, I think watching practice on this particular day, it 461 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 6: seemed like the defense was making a lot of plays. 462 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 6: Seemed like there was some pass breakups, there were some 463 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 6: forced fumbles, and and that's you know, I think it's 464 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 6: early in training camps that that tends to happen, but 465 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 6: it's got to be a good sign because there's so 466 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 6: much new on that side of the ball for Atlanta 467 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 6: this year. So I think that, you know, the more 468 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 6: you see from them in terms of the ability to 469 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 6: grasp the system and make place, I think that's got 470 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 6: to be encouraging. And then talking to Raheem Morris after practice, 471 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 6: he said he was really happy with the way that 472 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 6: Michael Pennox handled the fact that the defense got the 473 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 6: better of the offense today, that the way when he 474 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 6: gathered his guys that he was you know, he was 475 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 6: sending the right message, he was he was communicating the 476 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 6: right things. So I think that's the other thing that 477 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 6: you have to be happy about is seeing his leadership 478 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 6: ability as he enters this year where he's the unquestioned 479 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 6: QB one to start and obviously, you know, this is 480 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: a player that, as we all know, six years of 481 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 6: college football, has all this experience. But one of the 482 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 6: reasons that they liked him pre draft was that he 483 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 6: has natural leadership abilities. So I think they've been very 484 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 6: happy with what they've seen from that, and based on 485 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 6: you know, what was told to me after practice today, 486 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 6: it seemed like he was doing a good job of that. 487 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It was something that really stood out 488 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: to us after kind of the first practice as well, 489 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: was when he spoke to the media, just the level 490 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: of confidence that he had, the command of kind of 491 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: the room, and it was a little bit of a 492 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: not a full departure, but in year one, you know, 493 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: you heard about how kind of quiet he is, right, 494 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: And I do think leadership is different for every single person, 495 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: but it is interesting to kind of hear you say 496 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: that the way he handled maybe a down day for 497 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: the offense is just as important as when everything is 498 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: going right and being able to galvanize everybody. 499 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 6: I think. So I was talking to DJ Williams, the 500 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 6: quarterbacks coaching he said he's authentic. So when you're a 501 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 6: leader like that's the trick. You have to be your 502 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 6: authentic self, and he always is that. And another word 503 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 6: I heard today a lot about him was consistent. So 504 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 6: I think that that's the kind of thing if you 505 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 6: have that and he's you know, he's a guy that 506 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 6: has you know, again, twenty five years old, so older 507 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 6: than a lot of second year players, the oldest of 508 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 6: three brothers. I believe like he's sort of been in 509 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 6: this sort of leadership role for a while. So I 510 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 6: think that's the that's the cool. So whatever your message is, right, 511 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 6: if if it's a positive or if it's a negative, 512 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 6: or if you've got to get on guys, at least 513 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 6: they know who they're talking to, who they're hearing from, 514 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 6: and they trust it and they believe in it. So yeah, 515 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 6: I think, you know, he's a he's a young player, 516 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 6: and I think we saw a lot of good stuff 517 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 6: at the end of last year. Some stuff he needs 518 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 6: to work on, uh, but you know, I think he's 519 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 6: got that. From what I can tell, he's got those 520 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 6: characteristics you look for in that position. 521 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the physical tools are are apparent. We saw 522 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: those in three starts. We saw him at Washington. But 523 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: he's already dealing with a little bit of adversity here. 524 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: Darnel Mooney is going to be missing some time after 525 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: banging up his shoulder in that first open practice. DJ 526 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: Shark signed by the team. We'll start maybe with DJ Shark. 527 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: What does he bring to this Atlanta offense. 528 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 6: Well, a veteran, I think in a room that if 529 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: if Mooney's not a part of it is fairly young, right, 530 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 6: so I think that that's key. And you know, earlier 531 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 6: in his career he was he was known for his speed. 532 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 6: Is that still there? I mean, he's so. I guess 533 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 6: we'll see. They liked what they saw in the workout, 534 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 6: and I guess they felt an urgency to sign someone 535 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 6: after Mooney went down. But it sounds like there's a 536 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 6: couple of young guys they wanted to get a look 537 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 6: at on the roster in terms of, you know, if 538 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 6: they have to fill in. I don't. They're not saying, 539 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: but I don't. I didn't. I don't get the sense 540 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 6: that they're worried about it being something long term that 541 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 6: bleeds into the season. Obviously you can never know, but 542 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 6: if it were that then and even if it's not, 543 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 6: then at least you now have an opportunity to see 544 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 6: some of these younger guys in maybe an expanded role 545 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 6: throughout camp and throughout the preseason. So if DJ Shark 546 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 6: can be a helper, that's great. But I think, you know, 547 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 6: having just met him, right, the team is probably not 548 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 6: sure what and they don't want to put that on him. 549 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: So maybe some guys who have been here throughout the 550 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 6: offseason might be you know, might might get a little 551 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 6: bit of a longer look. 552 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean there were some games last year 553 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: where you could argue that Darnel Mooney was the number 554 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: one receiver for Atlanta. I mean, like the the immediate 555 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: connection he had with Kirk Cousins was a parent and 556 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay game to touch that, Like, he definitely was 557 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: a huge asset for this offense. And I think they 558 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: have high hopes for him in year two as well. 559 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: But what about Drake London? I think it was and 560 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Jeremy Fowler did the the 561 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: top ten position rankings, I believe for y'all, and Drake's 562 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: not on that. I understand why when you look at 563 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: kind of the national perception, but here in Atlanta, like 564 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: he has done everything. Yeah, it's been asked of him, 565 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: what do you think of Drake? 566 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 6: Well, I think he's awesome. You know, you see him 567 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 6: out there and you see why. You know, he looks 568 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 6: like a number one wide receiver. He's built like a 569 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: and we've seen the things he can do going back 570 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 6: to college in terms of contested catches in the end 571 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 6: zone everything. So there hasn't been as you well know, 572 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 6: you know, a lot of consistency or stability at the 573 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 6: quarterback position here since he's been here, so you kind 574 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 6: of give him a break on that. But I think 575 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 6: he's a guy that heading into year four now, right, 576 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 6: so they pick up the option and and maybe he's 577 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 6: in line for an extension at some point. But I think, 578 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 6: you know, he has to have that number one wide 579 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 6: receiver season in terms of productivity, in terms of you know, 580 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: consistent week to week and then piling up yards and touchdowns. 581 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: And I don't see any reason why he should. I mean, 582 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 6: if if if Michael Pennix can play quarterback in the NFL, 583 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: then I think Drake London should be something like a 584 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 6: star receiver. 585 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Let's put to the defensive side of the ball. And obviously, 586 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: the Falcons, like all off season talk is the pass rush. 587 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: Falcons say, hey, we hear you. We're going for a reason, 588 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: two first round picks on pass rushers. We can table 589 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: the first round pick part of it that in that 590 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: trade maybe, But now that we're here, now that they're 591 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: on the field, what do you expect to see from 592 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: James Pearson Jail Walker. 593 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 6: I always feel like the pass rush sure is a 594 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 6: spot where rookies can contribute right away because there are 595 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 6: third down situations where you just say, go get the 596 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 6: quarterback and they don't how to do that. 597 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: See quarterback hit quarterback. 598 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I asked Jeff Olbrick about that and he said, 599 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 6: you know, both those guys can set the edge too, 600 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 6: so it will work with them on the run game 601 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 6: knowing that the pass rush is there. And I think 602 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 6: they see them as kind of different kind of players 603 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 6: in terms of what their role can ultimately be, but 604 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 6: helpers in the pass rush that needs help. And then 605 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 6: the Leonard Floyd signing is very interesting because this is 606 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 6: a guy going into now his tenth season in the league. 607 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 6: He's he's been placed very many places, He's one big 608 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 6: and it sounds like he is embracing the veteran leader 609 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 6: role with those two rookies, which is fantastic. I mean, 610 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 6: it's not necessarily why you signed Leonard Floyd. You want 611 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 6: him to help you sack quarterbacks, but the fact that 612 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 6: he sees himself that way at this point in his 613 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 6: career is only going to be a benefit to those 614 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 6: young guys. So, yeah, the pass rush has to be better. 615 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 6: They obviously know that based on the offseason moves that 616 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 6: they made, and we'll see a lot of resource is 617 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 6: obviously into that position. And it's it's a big one 618 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 6: because if you're talking about late season games, if you're 619 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 6: talking about ideally playoff games, Yep, you know that's what 620 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 6: you need. You need closers, you need guys that can finish, 621 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 6: you can get the opposing quarterback on the ground in 622 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter, and and obviously this is a team 623 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 6: that has, you know, struggled to do that. 624 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: And when you're looking at kind of the overall makeup 625 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: of this team, you have an offense that if if 626 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix can can step in and play the way 627 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: they expect them to, all the pieces are there for 628 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: this to be a very good offense. You could be 629 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: looking at some high scoring games, games you are leading 630 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. You want closers on the other 631 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: side of the. 632 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 6: Ball ideally, right, I mean all those top ten picks 633 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 6: on the offense, so you feel like it's and you know, 634 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 6: if you can if you can get the run game 635 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 6: going with b John Robinson and Tyler ale Year, then yeah, 636 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 6: you can build some leads and and and work on that. 637 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 6: I think that's that's what they would like to be. 638 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 6: You know, the shootout with Washington end of last year 639 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 6: was fun, but you'd certainly rather be the only one 640 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: shooting right, So and that was you know, so I 641 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 6: think that's it. The defense. This is going to be interesting. 642 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 6: I I get this sense it's going to change more 643 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 6: than maybe some people might think. So we'll see. Scheme wise. 644 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 6: I think it'll be interesting to see what they come 645 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 6: up with. 646 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: What was kind of your initial reaction to Jeff Ulbrick 647 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: coming back here in Atlanta. We saw, obviously in an 648 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: interim capacity, these two guys working hand in hand, and 649 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: they're the pros of that immediate kind of reliability and 650 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 1: communication that they've developed. But you know, some people could say, 651 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: all right, doing it again. You know, where did you 652 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: land on that? 653 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 6: I think they know each other what we're talking about 654 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 6: him and Raheem Morris. They know each other well, they know, 655 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: they know how to how the each knows how the 656 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 6: other works, what the expectations are, and relationships are very 657 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 6: important in this business and life in general. But I think, 658 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 6: you know, after what Jeff went through last year, I think, 659 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 6: you know, finding a comfortable landing spot is probably good. 660 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 6: But also I mean, look, he's he's well regarded, he 661 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 6: is he's somebody that knows the place, he's been here, 662 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 6: he knows Raheem, and he knows again he knows what 663 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 6: the expectations are. So it made a lot of sense 664 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 6: to me what happened with the Jets last year. I 665 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 6: don't think should be held against Jeff Ulbrick. I think 666 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 6: he was put in an impossible situation and you know, 667 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 6: sort of did the best he could. But he's obviously 668 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 6: a talented and an intelligent defensive coordinator who should be 669 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 6: who should his addition should be a benefit. 670 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think the interim head coach roll is 671 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: one of the toughest spots to be in, probably in 672 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: all of space. 673 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 6: I haven't seen too many too many guys ye hold 674 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 6: the job. 675 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: Not many two two more for you one I want 676 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: to talk about Jean. We kind of have talked about 677 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: Michael Pennis talks about Drake, talked about Darnell Bjean Robinson. 678 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like he's already in that kind 679 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: of rarefied era of the running backs in the league. 680 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: Like how much more do you think we have left 681 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: to see from him? 682 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 6: When you get picked where he got picked, you have 683 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 6: to be special because that is not something teams like 684 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 6: to generally do, is pick running backs that high. So 685 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 6: you see, you know a Saquon Barkley has picked two 686 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 6: and Jamier Gibbs I think was same year as Bijon 687 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 6: right twelve, So he should be a guy who can 688 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 6: play on all three downs, give the ball to as 689 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 6: much as you want, and expect magic and when we've 690 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 6: seen it in flashes for sure. But I think what's 691 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 6: cool is they have Algier too that they that they 692 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 6: really like, and the ability to put him in there 693 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 6: to either you know, be a complimentary piece or to 694 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: spell Bijon if he needs a rest. I think that's 695 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 6: that's great. So Bijon seems like the kind of guy 696 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 6: when he's going well, you would never take him off 697 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 6: the field, Like he's that level of weapon, but the 698 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 6: fact that they have depth there I think is only 699 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 6: going to help him as well. So yeah, this is 700 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 6: exciting this roster. I mean it is. You look at 701 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 6: these players, you look at these names, you watch them 702 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 6: walking and running around out there, and it could really 703 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 6: be something here. And obviously, I know it felt like 704 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 6: that last year and didn't work out, but you know, 705 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 6: you're pretty close and you beat the division champion twice, 706 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 6: so it feels like, you know, if things really do 707 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 6: come together, if Pennix is what they hope he is, 708 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 6: and if the defense improves, especially up front, yeah, it 709 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 6: could be a lot of fun. 710 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: So let's let's wrap up right there. Tampa Bay, obviously 711 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: we know what they are. They are a consistent team. 712 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: They're a good team. Has Atlanta, in your opinion, kind 713 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: of done enough to really really challenge for this division? 714 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 6: I say yes, but I would have said yes last 715 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 6: year as well, and they did challenge for the I 716 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 6: mean right, So, uh, Tampa Bay's wont at four years 717 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 6: in a row, and the year before that they won 718 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, So they're on quite a run that 719 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 6: doesn't get talked about very much because they other than 720 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 6: that one year, they don't make a lot of nice 721 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 6: when they get to the playoffs. So to me, if 722 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 6: you're looking at these two teams, their roster looks pretty 723 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 6: strong too. They're gonna be without their starting left tackle 724 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 6: for the start of the season. It sounds like Tristan 725 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 6: Wurfs and it'd be interesting to see how they handle that. 726 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 6: And they don't want to get too far behind U, certainly, 727 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 6: But I don't see any reason why this team doesn't 728 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 6: have enough to compete with and beat them out for 729 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 6: the division. You're talking about making picks at the end 730 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 6: of July beginning of August. That's tricky, you know. 731 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Tell me. 732 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 6: I always say, tell me who's gonna get hurt, and 733 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 6: I'll tell you who's gonna win. But I think you would. 734 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 6: I would look at it from this standpoint as a 735 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 6: close race. Probably favor Tampa just because of that track record. 736 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 6: They know how to do it, and we haven't seen 737 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 6: Atlanta breakthrough yet. But yeah, I don't see any good 738 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 6: reason why. Again, they beat them twice head to head 739 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 6: there obviously can compete with them, so I think there's 740 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 6: there's no reason not to expect it to be a 741 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 6: good race at the very. 742 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Least hopefully it's a fun season, and yeah, hopefully it 743 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: comes down. No, hopefully it doesn't come down to the wire. 744 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Jargons hopefully. 745 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 6: We just want to be Buffalo. Last year they clinched 746 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 6: their division with five weeks left. That's who you want 747 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 6: to be. Yeah, so yeah, I think big. 748 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about the content. But yeah, all right, Dan. 749 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 6: Five weeks of playoff previews. Wouldn't you love that? 750 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? That would be great. Dan, Thank you so much 751 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: for taking the time pleasure to join us. This as 752 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: a blast. Everybody, please go check out all this great 753 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: work at ESPN.