1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in ocasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald money making Conversations. Here we go. 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation. I'm your host, ra Sean McDonald. 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories to 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: start writing your own. Now you can be motivated by 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: the success because their stories can offer direction and help 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: you reach your goals through your planet in your committeed effort. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: My interviews provide the consumer and business owner access to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: and interest and interesting decision makers. My next cast is 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: a well known athlete. Let's cope an athlete, because sometimes 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: when you're an athlete, people will just keep you over there. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: His name is Sheldon Ms, the former NBA Lottery pick 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: and Duke University Hall of Fame player were discussing his 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: career from Oklahoma City to the NBA. In between all 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: that was a little unknown school called Duke University, his 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: life after basketball, and how he inspires to give back 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: to the community. That's really why I wanted on this show. 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: We had a lot of things by athletes, and we 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: only hear one side of the story. The Sheldon Williams 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Fundation is dedicated to empowering student athletes and their families 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: by delivering and supporting initiatives that provide emotional and physical 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: health through sports, education and community involvement. Please welcome to 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation for the very first time, the athlete 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Sheldon Williams how on Shelton. I'm good, good, thanks for 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: having me. All. I emphasized athlete because somehow along the way, 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: you guys get diminished. You get diminished on your ability 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: to communicate, your diminished on your education abilities, your articulation. 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: How do you how do you overcome the athletes stereotype 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: as you move forward in life? Sheltering H Well, it's 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: interesting that you asked that. I mean, until Lebron was 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: probably similar. The most forefront athlete that sit there and say, 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: don't put us in a box. Make sure that we 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: know we are more than what we do, whether we 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: playing football, japan basketball, but more than that. And I 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: think that was the first time that she like say 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: it out loud, I guess, and made it more of 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: a worldly thing. But before then he was always kept 44 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: in the box like all right, this is what you 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: do and it's pretty much it. So a lot of 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: people now are kind of bringing themselves on the main screen, like, hey, 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: this is what I used to get to this point, 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: but the overall me, this is X, Y and Z, 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: and I try to use my social platform to let 50 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: people know this is what I do and not just 51 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: what I did in the past or what you know 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: me asked, this is all me. I I was sharing 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: a little piece of my life, Sheldon, because you know, 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: I a sitcom writer, stand up comedian, did death jam 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: and all that. One of the bigger components in my 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: life was I managed Steve Harvey. And I bring that 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: up because of the fact that you know, we had 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: to ride together like sixteen years and you know when 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: images together, image awards together, and box office movies, family feud, 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: hit books, and when I walked away and started to 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: develop my own career, I kind of was still trapped 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: into that world. And so I bring that up because 63 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: as an NBA lottery pick and at the highest level 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: that an athlete that can perform, and that is as 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: a basketball player you want to make an NBA How 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: were you able to make that transition because a lot 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: of people kept you in that bottle of being an 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: NBA player or what's going wrong while you're not still 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: playing in the NBA talk to us through that that 70 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: that that emotional release of trying to build your brand, 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: the Sheldon Weaves brand. Well, that's always kind of a 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say difficult path, it just it's it's a 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: path that you haven't done. Um, because you've been all 74 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: your life been trying to be this athlete that you 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: inspire to be. Whether you looked up to Michael Jordan 76 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: or any other guys that play in your your your 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: your position, or your sport. You expire to be those guys. 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: And then once that timeline is pretty much ended, it's like, okay, 79 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: what do I do now? So hopefully within that one 80 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: or two years before it does actually in, you kind 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: of started thinking about my next move, my next plan. 82 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: It's always hard because you always think that this is 83 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: what's gonna be for a lot of number of years, 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: and it's not always like that. So for me, when 85 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: I actually started to think about retiring, I wind up 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is what I want to do. 87 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and do something that one 88 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: keeps me active with my who's now eleven, as well 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: as keep me within the game of basketball. And I 90 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: was able to unfortunate enough to actually be a scowl 91 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: broken nets on the West Coast. I did that about 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: three years before I said I want to try my 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: hand into coaching. You be more hands on than actually, 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, kind of being in the back front office site. Well, 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, the death of Kobe um, you know, it 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: was still the shock, and I remember I went to 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: l A after his death, and uh it was like 98 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: ghost town. Man, I've never seen l A, which is 99 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: like party Central, which is like Glitz, which is glamor, 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: which is uh as they say, Hollywood. And then you 101 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: mentioned your daughter, you know, daddy's girl. You know, I 102 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: have a single I'm a father and I have a daughter. 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: So you know the importance of that role that you 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: play and and guy, and I remember, I all, I'm 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: always available for her to have a comment. And then 106 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: you see what happens to Kobe and that that whole 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: daddy Gore sent doing. God, did you get caught up 108 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: in there? Did you realize your role that you have 109 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: and and with your daughter who's loving now? Well, I 110 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: got caught up in it because one my daughter was 111 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: actually doing things with uh Gj's team and the team 112 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: undneath J's team at the Mamba Academy, so she was 113 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: familiar with both of those you know people, So that happened, 114 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: it kind of hit a little bit closer. I mean, 115 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: obviously was sad for anybody to go down like that, 116 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: whether it be a name, well named person or just anybody. 117 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: But what really hit me was the girls that were 118 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: around my my daughter's age, not able to actually live 119 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: their life and got cut short, and talking to her 120 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: about it, it really hit home for me. I'm like, 121 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: dangn like literally, these are somebody that you was actually 122 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: an academy, my mama charity, practicing with, practice against, and 123 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they're gone, and it's very 124 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: sad for that to happen. But that right there kind 125 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: of hit closer to home to me because of the 126 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: whole girls that were running. My my daughter said, actually 127 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: round my daughter as well. You know, my bringing my 128 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: daughter because she was a professional athlete. You know, she 129 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: was a tennis prodigy, you know, so she was homeschooled 130 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: and she played on the tennis Tour, professional tendance Tour, 131 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and then she blew out her knee and and when 132 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: she blow I always remember, like the week before Thanksgiving 133 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: and she asked me, she said, Dad, what do you 134 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: she Dad, can I Can I do something else? And 135 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I said, what you wanna do? She said, I want 136 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: to go to college. And you've been an athlete, and 137 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, you just was a gifted athlete, you know, 138 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: smart guy from Oklahoma City. Like you said, you went 139 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: from univosity diversity. Do you feel that you were ever 140 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: pushed along or did anybody ever stop and asked Shelton 141 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: what he wanted in the early years or you just 142 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: positioned to be this great athlete and you had no 143 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: other option. Well, growing up, my dad he played basketball, 144 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: he played in college as well. But for me and 145 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: my younger brother, he didn't want us to follow in 146 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: his footsteps. He wanted to kind of find our own path. 147 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: Granted my dad six eight my mom is to five eleven, 148 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: to be in our future. So um, I went from 149 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: playing baseball, soccer and footballers Oklahoma is a big football 150 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: stay absolutely and was that as the absolutely you come 151 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, come on that Oklhoba, come on all right, right, 152 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: And then I went to basketball, basketball and football all 153 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: of until my pressing year where I got moved up 154 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: to the high school teams back home. Myth grade was 155 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: still junior high, so I was able to do both 156 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: those things. But honestly, with my dad, he wanted us 157 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: to find our own path. And then once we actually 158 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: found our own path, he was, all right, this is 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: what you want to do. Are you sure? All right? 160 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna do this? Then this is what 161 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: we need to do to get better every year, and 162 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: he I laid out guidelines for me and my younger 163 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: brother to follow if you want to be successful in 164 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: that sport. Well, you know, because we're gonna talk about 165 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: your foundation. But I'm just kind of getting everybody assists 166 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: on who you are, you know, your story because the 167 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: fact that you're a gifted athlete, you know, there are 168 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: some steps that go through the process that you can 169 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: get pushed along. I know that. You know, as my 170 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: daughter got better, you know, specialized coaches are coming around. 171 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: You know I was, you know, because they wanted to 172 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: fixes fix her her back hand, you know, fix her serve, 173 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, fix her groundstrokes and all that. But that's 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: that period and not fast forward show. Yeah, the IMG academies, 175 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: you have social media. What was the worst thing you 176 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: had to deal with when you were coming out of 177 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: high school that the players have to deal with today, 178 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, because technology has to be with the one 179 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: thing is the social media or is it? Is it 180 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: the academies? Is that the the circuits? What is it? Well, 181 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: for me, I kind of missed that area the era 182 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: because they didn't come until later on where the old 183 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: social media platforms and the I m G s was 184 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of later on in my high school career they 185 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: kind of kind of made a big time, but when 186 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I was actually growing up, if they had any kind success, 187 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: it was in the front page of newspaper. So we're 188 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: reading that and then all of a sudden, people circling, 189 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: you know every time they play, gets you that Hey, 190 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta target on your back. So minor 191 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: compared to what it is with the social media. But 192 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: if you read the paper, your parents got the paper, 193 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: and your pictures on the front page of that sports section, 194 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: people start paying attention to who you are, and then 195 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your name kind of circulates throughout 196 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: your whole area and people are trying to come after 197 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: you from that, you know, because you know, because you know, 198 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: social media exists now and it's like certain people shouldn't 199 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: be certain people shouldn't be on social media. You know 200 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: that to show certain people should be cut off. You know, 201 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: they Twitter to cut Donald Trump. They need to be 202 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: cutting some of these athletes. So as you because you're 203 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: a mentor. Now you're a mentor. You as one of 204 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: those been there, done that. Uh, the success is part 205 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: of your resume. Duke University Hall of Famer. What you know? 206 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: And I would tell you this, Sheldan, I you know, 207 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan of yours because you're just 208 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: so good in college and you played for Duke. And 209 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you I love you as a man, 210 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: as a person because Duke was just man. How did 211 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: you pick Duke? Man? You're in Oklahoma football country? You 212 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: tea right there, University of Texas is right there. You 213 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, How did you go way over 214 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: to Duke to play basketball? Well, that's the question that 215 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: I got asked a lot when I was leaving the 216 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: state of Oklahoma. Like my h S teammate with the OU, 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: my high school AU teammate with OU, say, they're trying 218 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: to do at the package deal. You let's go, you know, 219 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: kind of like you know, Oklahoma boys stay in Oklahoma, 220 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: which was cool, but you're trying to tell me the 221 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: best of boat world. Duke acts right and do basketball 222 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: and you have a chance to go there. Now that's 223 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: that compare. Like, my dad was a big educator, so 224 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: education was very high on our list of schools when 225 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: we actually looking for schools and played for it. So 226 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: they have the best of both worlds. It didn't compare 227 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: dude Texas Duke. Oh you it didn't know to school 228 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: was was this shire to stopped with? Shall stop? It 229 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: was no comparison, brother, Okay you team maybe oh you 230 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: no way? Duke exceptional universe Because a lot of people 231 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: when you when you see a powerhouse like a Duke, 232 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: you tend to throw him in the pot and forget 233 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: the academics that comes with the school. Like Dude, tell 234 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: us about the academic standards that they have there and 235 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: why Duke is such a strong academic school. Well, the 236 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: academic standards was, like I said, one of the major 237 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: reasons why I chose that. Like my dad, as I 238 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: said before, it was a big educator. So he stressed 239 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: education on us all the time. With him being a teacher, 240 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: we had assignments and projects all year round, like whatever 241 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: we had going on for school, if we didn't have homework, 242 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: best believe that my dad came home all right, well 243 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: we got this project to do, or you gotta read 244 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: for an hour on this book right here. So it 245 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: was always him pushing us to do something the further 246 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: us along with our education. The once we got to 247 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: do it was the same thing where you're in classes, 248 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: you're in study hall, you in all kinds of study 249 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: groups that kind of make yourself, you know, put yourself 250 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: in a good position to actually be successful. So a 251 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: lot of the times where you think you may not 252 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: know something, Dude did a good job of having people 253 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: accessible to talk to to help you along the way. 254 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: And also, I mean just just with the education, alan 255 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: we know that if you got a piece of paper 256 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: from do It's gonna put you up for you know, 257 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do later on. It's finally here, 258 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: the season of celebration. 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That's O T T 292 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: E R dot ai. Now, when when when you talk 293 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: about to yourself sir as a player, you know, when 294 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: do you start making a conscious decision that is time 295 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: to move on? When you're an athlete, you know, because 296 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: that's the hard decision, you know, because of the fact 297 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: that it's something in some ways you don't plan for 298 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: an exit. How do you know what? And also the 299 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: second question is that when did the Sheldon when you 300 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: foundation get started? Was it doing you're playing days or 301 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: after you left the plane, after you left the court. Well, 302 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: it was always in my mind. The Susman's Foundation was 303 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: always in my mind to do. I just didn't have 304 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: time to do it because once I got done planned, 305 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: I had my daughter, you know, the whole off season, 306 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: so with me playing, my daughter was getting older and 307 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: was like that in't I come, You're always away And 308 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: that kind of got to me because like she doesn't 309 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: understand we're trying to make a living for her. All 310 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: she sees is that is on a road trip or 311 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: that's gone for whatever amount of days. That's all she's seeing. 312 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: So it kind of got to me. That's why I 313 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: kind of retire a little bit earlier, because I like, nowhere, 314 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: you're right, some things are more important and you are 315 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: more important. So I wind up retiring early so I 316 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: could spend extra time with her. And as I said before, 317 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: I kind of you know, got into a job where 318 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: I was still able to do basketball with the West 319 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Coast Scouting and then be with her. But kind of 320 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: going back to the question about the Sheldon Wins Foundation, 321 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: that was something I had already in mind. It just 322 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: matter up doing it. So once I retired, I want 323 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: to say I took about a year before I started 324 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: doing anything about it because that whole year I took 325 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: off it, which is me and my daughter, and I 326 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: was just making sure it I was doing, like no 327 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: ballet glasses and recitals and you know, all those other 328 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: things that I didn't think about self doing. But I'm 329 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: a very front row you know, I'm doing all that stuff, like, 330 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of being with her and making 331 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: up for lost time and everything. But I wanted to 332 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: do that because one I grew up, my mom was 333 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: big into doing charity, foundation whatever you wanna call it. 334 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 1: You know, I'm private type of word. Growing up. When 335 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: I was doing Rona McDonald House, I was doing the 336 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: only listen moment meals. Those things were already still in me. 337 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: It was just a matter of back, you know, no 338 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: matter of just getting me back into the swing of 339 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: things and getting the opportunity to actually fully invested myself 340 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: in doing that and that's why I started showing Metals 341 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: Foundation about two years ago. Okay, now you said that 342 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: she The WI Foundation is dedicated to empowering student athletes 343 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: and their family a boy, delivering and supporting initiatives that 344 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: promote emotional and physical health. Let's stop right there. I 345 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: got the physical health. What is the emotional and physical 346 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: health through sports education and community involvement? Talk to us 347 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: about that. Well, as you see a lot of kids nowadays, 348 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: they're dealing with a lot more than I wouldn't said 349 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot more. I think it's more addressed now than 350 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: it was back when I played it. Because if you 351 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: had any kind of situation where off court problems or 352 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, uh, family issues once you got into court, 353 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: A lot of coaches already do this, so you can't 354 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: do it. I'll find that dost that doesn't ever do 355 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: that now past for all these years, like, hey, I 356 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: noticed that you're not being yourself. Come over and talk 357 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: to me. What's going on? You know, getting to that 358 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: point where you know where you more than just you 359 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: know in that way, you're a human being, you're a person. 360 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm tying to what 361 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: you're doing as well, and talking to you as a 362 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: human being and not just a person that comes and 363 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: not just like a factor that comes in and out. 364 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: You know how it is with sports work, things changed 365 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: so fluidly, like everybody's coming in and out. I want 366 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know that I'm here to talk. 367 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: This is beyond basketball. It's really important because, like I said, 368 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: I I can relate to a lot of the things 369 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: that you're talking about because my wife was with Marke, 370 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, she she retired, she was practicing atometrists, and 371 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: she retired so my daughter could travel and make sure 372 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: that a stranger wasn't tied to my daughter and making 373 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: sure my daughter was you know, not being is treated physically, 374 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: because like you're saying, as an athlete, people will push 375 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: you and guess what, and guess what and and and 376 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: push you beyond because I see so many stories about 377 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: tremendous athletes who failed because they were put in the 378 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: situation they were uncomfortable, and they didn't have mentors, or 379 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: they refused to tell their parents what was going on 380 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: out of fear. What made you survive? Because I love 381 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: the way you keep bringing up your parents this whole conversation, 382 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: doing this interview were doing, Shelton, you constantly mentioned your parents. 383 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: That really is the key to you and who you 384 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: are today, right your parents? Of course, I mean my 385 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: parents is what made me who I am today and 386 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: me and my younger brother who I am today, who 387 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: we are Today's said like, if they wasn't able to 388 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: steal those things into us, be where we are right 389 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: now or what we're trying to do, what we're trying 390 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: to accomplish right now. So it's a big credit to 391 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: what they did for us growing up, and now it's 392 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: more so like, hey, you see a person of them 393 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: in us as we are doing things that we're trying 394 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: to do later on that life. So I would say, like, 395 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, me always missing my parents as a reason 396 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: for that because they played and still are playing a 397 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: big factor in my life. Now here's the interesting thing 398 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: about both our lives. We're black men, Sheldon and and 399 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: I tell people, are you know I gotta go back? 400 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: You know the George Floyd And like I said, you 401 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: and I both know that we all are. I can 402 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: speak for myself. A cop stops me for anything. My 403 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: flag score. I don't feel comfortable, especially at night. I 404 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: don't really feel comfortable at all. And so it's that 405 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: part of the education process that you're talking about, the 406 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: community involvement process that you're talking about. Trying to develop 407 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: relationships for a young black man and female young ladies 408 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: can be able to get through life in sports is 409 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: just one of the tools that they can get them 410 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: out of the neighborhood. Have given them positive options because 411 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: the world sees us for who we are based on 412 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: the color of our skins. I don't care what anybody says. 413 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: The color of our skin creates a different conversation. How 414 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: do you correlate that within your your foundation to Shelton 415 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: when we foundation Salily, that is a tough be we 416 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: constantly have to have for people that look like you 417 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: and men. We have to do every time and it's 418 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: it's sad to say, but we have to continue to 419 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: do that. A lot of this stuff, especially this year, 420 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: has been more and more recorded, seeing you know, going viral, 421 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: whatever that you're saying or whatever you think it is. 422 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: It's been going on for decades and decades, but yet 423 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing more and more almost on a daily basis, 424 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: and a conversation that needs to continue to happen for 425 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: people that look like us. Has to be a forefront 426 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: conversation because if you're not blessed and not to come 427 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: from like rocking from a two parent home right where 428 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: I was able to have these conversations daily about what 429 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: to do in these situations. A lot of these kids 430 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: don't have that, so having somebody actually talk them through 431 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: these things so they're not another statistic ended up like 432 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the people you mentioned, which is sad and safe. But 433 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: that's how it is for us them nowadays. I know 434 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, because it's because we're having a real 435 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: conversation now, you know, and I'm not saying we didn't 436 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: have one earlier, but because of the fact that you 437 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: and I both know. You know, you know, you're taller 438 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: black man than me, you know, which means that I 439 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: do as successful as I have been in my life. 440 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: I've walked by a white women clutched their bags. I 441 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: saw them look at me in a manner that I 442 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: think that they feared that I was gonna do something, 443 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm in tailor suits. I've walked into places 444 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: and people have questioned would I would have looked as 445 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: to why I'm that facility or why I'm in that restaurant? 446 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: Or why am I walking down that street? You know? 447 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: And uh, but with that being said, you know, athletes 448 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: has always proven to be a vehicle of change, a 449 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: vehicle of opportunity. But like we also stated with Lebron, 450 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: he's trying to peel back this. We are only dare 451 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: to do a service, and that's a physical service. And 452 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: I feel that's part of what you're trying to do 453 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: with the Sheldon Williams Foundation. Correct, You're more than delivering 454 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: a physical service. You're you're you're you're developing people who 455 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: are taxpayers, who are gonna get education, who are going 456 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: to make a difference in the community. That seems to 457 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: be the core of the Sheldon Williams Foundation. Am I correct? Yes, 458 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of putty much it on the 459 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: head for a lot of these youth that I'm trying 460 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: to help and give back and give opportunities to a 461 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: lot of undeserving families and people that want to be 462 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: able to get out of situations that they are in. 463 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: Right now, I mean you kind of said that already. 464 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: You being tailor suits me. I already have the conference 465 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: two strikes against me being tall and black. When I'm 466 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: walking down the street. You do see those things. And 467 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm a guy that I'm not necessarily over, you know, joyous, 468 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: and I'm walking around like if I know you're did 469 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: something different to her, But if I'm walking around, I'm 470 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: very very stow it, I said. People will take that 471 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: as a sign of, you know, I don't know something 472 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: that makes them afraid, and that couple I've been dealing 473 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: with from previous day one, and seeing this, I have 474 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: to actually over like, you know, hey, how you doing 475 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: over you know, and make myself like, you know, even 476 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: make make make sure that feel more comfortable, which is 477 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: sad that I've actually do this. Absolutely, you know, you 478 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: gotta make them feel more comfortable. You have to change 479 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: the way you walk, you have to change your tone 480 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: to make people feel more comfortable. But guess what, You're 481 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: already comfortable. You know that, you know, like it's saying, 482 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to just bring that out, you know, 483 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: because on this show, I try to have honest conversations. 484 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: You know. You know, you can do a lot of 485 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: interviews Sheldon and these and these interviews about the success 486 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: of your career, but we're talking about now and how 487 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: you have to change lives now. Like you said, a 488 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: couple of years ago you started to show the Williams Foundation. 489 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: It's an extension of who you are. Is this the 490 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: voice of who you are now? Because at one point 491 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: the voice of who you were was an athlete? Is 492 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: this your voice now? This is pretty this is pretty 493 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: much my voice. Part A, Part B. You know, like 494 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: building up, as you keep growing, you keep balling, right, 495 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: and that's we as human beings, continue to do so 496 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people, especially before social media, you only 497 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: see the Wade and then he followed me on social media. 498 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: You'll see I'm talking about you know, my daughter, uh, 499 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: social issues. You know, you'll see, like I said, Part one, 500 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: Part two, Part three, you're seeing a lot of stuff 501 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: is going on, and that's involving as I involved, as 502 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: in the person I'm gonna become in the future. But 503 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: it's always every changing, so you always gonna get something 504 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: different that you may see a month, you know, a 505 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: year ago. Every case may be. You will see that 506 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be just put into a category of box. 507 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna try to help me and try to 508 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: extend myself and do more things where I'm not gonna 509 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: be just one category. Okay, let's let's have some fun here. 510 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: You know you you you know you're farmer Lattery, pick 511 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: your former NBA player. You're watching games, you know you 512 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: you know we we see the big three they then 513 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: put together in Brooklyn. Can they win it all? Can 514 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: they win it all? Well? The thing, the thing is, 515 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: until last this past year, Lebron and A D were 516 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: the first team to win Role the Back when they 517 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: got for a long time. I mean when Lebron and 518 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: uh Lebron and uh the Wade and Chris Bosh when 519 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: they got together, they didn't win Roup the Back. They 520 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: wait a couple of years before they win their first one. 521 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you have all these different big three as forming. 522 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: The last time I've seen a big three to form 523 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: that one brought off the bat was back in Boston 524 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: when KG, Paul and Real and first formed up. It's 525 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: difficult to do, especially with guys that demand the ball 526 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: as much as they did. I know they had a 527 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: hard lost last night, but I don't really pay attention 528 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: to that loss, just because, like with me being that dude, 529 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people circle our number are on the 530 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: calendar to make sure that hey, no matter we were doing, 531 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna get up for this game. And that's how 532 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: it is for Brooken Nets right now. A lot of 533 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: people don't get up for that game. So they lost 534 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: to uh Washington Ridges. But when I say one or 535 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: two points and is a high scoring game. But until 536 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: Washington Wisard can continue to do and play like that, 537 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: that game doesn't really mean it doesn't hold much weight 538 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: just because they lost. If it's that's the nature of playing. 539 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: What's sending two games this season? But when you when 540 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: you talk about playing the game and watching a career 541 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: and then Sheldon, I look at that their honors or 542 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: your jersey number and seeing Dupe in the Hall of Famer? 543 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: What what? What stands out to be the most impressive 544 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: thing that is happening in your career that you would 545 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: always go, man, I can't believe that happened to me, 546 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: because you've gotten them all, you know, Gatorade Award to 547 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: All American Honors, lottery Pick walked on the stage and 548 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: recognized in front of thousand people, is one of the 549 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: top athletes in the world. What what? What? What always 550 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: brings a smile to your face when you think about 551 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: it from an athletic standpoint, I'm probably gonna say being 552 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: able to have the opportunity to have much jersey hung 553 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: in the raptors of Cameron Or Stadium, being one of 554 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: thirteen guys. That's a bad raptor there, Christian Dave, that's 555 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: a bad raptor. That baby gret bred Hill. Come on, now, 556 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know, dude, man of alivating layers that 557 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: play it. Dude, my name and my jersey will be 558 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: forever at home in that raptor. So I wouldn't say 559 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of the greatest one is like being a 560 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: kid out of Oklahoma. I didn't see myself one leaving 561 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: the state of Oklahoma because at that time I've only 562 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: seen one player leave to state of Oklahoma play That 563 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: was Eaton Thomas, who have to go to Syracuse. Everybody 564 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: stay in the state of Oklahoma. So once I got 565 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: a chance that actually played for Duke University, yes, my 566 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: careers are unfolding, and that opportunity become a player that 567 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: was gonna become and had the opportunity be actually have 568 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: a jersey return, that was a true blessing because I 569 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: didn't go in to do thinking that I wouldn't do 570 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: trying to think, hey, I gotta prove a lot of 571 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: people wrong from back home in Oklahoma that I can't play, 572 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: but the biggest and the best of the college basketball. 573 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: And wow, well Sherlton, thank you for coming on money 574 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: making conversations. And you're great. You're a great talking boy. 575 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying you you you guys the 576 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: words coming out to your mouth with my friend. You 577 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: know you have that little laid back, little stoic personality, 578 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: but you can talk. Man. You got something just like 579 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, and it continued to make difference. I know 580 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: that we was connected and an interview long overdue for 581 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: us to connect. Uh COVID slowdown the relationship or one. 582 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, we know what COVID is gonna do. From 583 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: an athletic standpoint, we see, UH how's affecting UH high school, 584 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: the UH college level and players who who want to 585 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: go pro, players who want to extend their athletic careers 586 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: are being cut shorter and they're given an extra year 587 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 1: of eligibility. But I know that if you ever need 588 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: even my man, Sheldon Williams, Sean McDonald's a friend and 589 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm always there for your brother. And I hope you 590 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: enjoyed this interview. I appreciate that I did enjoy the 591 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: n W. I appreciate you having me on. It was 592 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: great talk, great discussions also. I mean for us to 593 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: actually talk about not just basketball, but the whole life 594 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: experience and topics. What's great for me to actually talk 595 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: to you about it. So thank you so much for 596 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: having me on. I really appreciate my time. Well, you 597 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: know the great thing about the Sheldon this that you 598 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: know me now. You know that you know when we're talking, 599 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: the future is gonna be a different because you know, 600 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: coming on and I said hello, a friend saying hello 601 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: to you, and we're gonna talk about life, man, just life, 602 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: about making sure you and the brand that you're building 603 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: now is important and affects millions of people, not just 604 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of people, because your brands worldwide and 605 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: social media allows that to happen. The digital platform allows 606 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: that to happen. And my job is to make sure 607 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: that you are blessing to everybody. Because the Sheldon Williams Foundation, 608 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: like I stated early, is dedicated to empowering student athletes 609 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: and their families by delivering and supporting initiatives to promote 610 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: emotional and physical health through sports education and community involvement again, 611 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on money Making Conversation shieldon weams. 612 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Appreciate. If you want to hear 613 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: more money Making Conversation interviews, please go to money Making 614 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: Conversation dot com. All subscribe in our YouTube channel. I 615 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: was Sean McDonald. I'm your host. 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