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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, everybody, It's Friday. Quarantine cast is coming at you.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in a tiny room and Boza, Montana, and

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Speaker 1: Phil is in the same tiny room he's been in

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Speaker 1: all week. Say hey, Phil, hello, we made it through

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Speaker 1: the week? We did it was well the last day

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Speaker 1: then you got a weekend. You can do whatever it

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Speaker 1: is you can do outside. I suggest you spend the

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Speaker 1: day outside. Phil. Do you have any plans for the

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Speaker 1: weekend that might include going outside? I don't, but I

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Speaker 1: will absolutely be making them because I am getting a

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna we'll report back you on Monday. What

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Speaker 1: we did over the weekend. That was very productive. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've had a productive week. We've we've

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Speaker 1: told a lot of stories. We have launched the Great

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Speaker 1: Hand Turkey Contest of that hopefully will distract all of you.

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Speaker 1: Um I'd like to see. I was very much enjoyed

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Speaker 1: when we did the contest from episode one hundred. How

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Speaker 1: many of you kind of like gathered around the table

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Speaker 1: to draw pictures of Phil. I felt like Phil brought

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Speaker 1: you together. Phil's voice face brought you together. So let's

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Speaker 1: let the hand turkeys bring you together and get you

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Speaker 1: into this this weekend. It should be nice weather for

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Speaker 1: everybody's Spring is kind of creeping up on us. Um,

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Speaker 1: screw the coronavirus, screw COVID nineteen. We're gonna keep moving on. UM.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a full slate of shows next week,

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Speaker 1: so we're excited about that. But this week we got

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Speaker 1: to get to one of my favorite stories of all time. Um, Phil,

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Speaker 1: you missed this story, but you're gonna love it. Man.

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Speaker 1: It is a It's a barnburner. We got Col Kramer

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Speaker 1: uh from Adventure Mountain Hunts up in Alaska. He does

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Speaker 1: all types of hunts and Kodiak and elsewhere. He's one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite people, one of my better friends in

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Speaker 1: the world, and we've had some adventures together. Also DJ Bell,

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Speaker 1: my good buddy from Austin, Texas, formerly a co worker

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Speaker 1: on mine, but still a very good friend. We all

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Speaker 1: went to Kodiak, Alaska in search of blacktailed deer and

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Speaker 1: we had just about one of the craziest adventures I've

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Speaker 1: been a part. We got stuck, we got snowed on,

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Speaker 1: We got eighty mile narrow winds um. We we hiked

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Speaker 1: some crazy stuff which somehow, some way benefits us during

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Speaker 1: this quarantine. Um, those hardships turn out to be good

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Speaker 1: lessons for what we're doing right now. So that's something

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Speaker 1: you're gonna want to listen to. Um. Phil, all I

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Speaker 1: this show? Yes? Please, let's start it go. Oh hey,

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Speaker 1: Cole Cramer, how are you doing, Buddy? I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: Ben O'Brien, how are you we're coming to You're coming

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Speaker 1: to me straight from Cody, ak Alaska? Is that correct? Correct?

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Speaker 1: The moondo? What are you drinking? You drinking coffee? I'm

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Speaker 1: drinking some coffee. This is uh that black rifle coffee,

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Speaker 1: especially dark roast murdered out black rifle coffee. Okay, are

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Speaker 1: you gonna talk in that accident the whole time? Are

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Speaker 1: you gonna know it's just when we talk about coffee

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Speaker 1: on the coffee. DJ Bell from Austin, Texas say hey, buddy,

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Speaker 1: hey buddy, now we're all together. We're from various different backgrounds.

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Speaker 1: You guys are both from the great state of Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's right. Yeah, we're both proud Kansas members,

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Speaker 1: members of Kansas. Now, you guys want to go ahead,

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Speaker 1: And you guys grew up in uh small towns that

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Speaker 1: were very close to each other, right, Yes, we did.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in pratt Kansas, and DJ, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and tell the audience where you grew up. I grew

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Speaker 1: up about thirty miles from pratt Um nearest town maybe

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Speaker 1: And you and you found yourselves at one point some

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Speaker 1: As you know, some people would be rule intimidated by

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Speaker 1: You can say the truth came out, you know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're basically brothers. Yeah, you would you reflect that, DJ? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Colen I exhibit some rugged handsomeness that you

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Speaker 1: actually three o'clock. So up up in Montana, they get

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Speaker 1: the jump on things, people. I need to entertain myself.

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Speaker 1: If anything else, there's no way, there's no way to know.

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Speaker 1: But we're all gathered here today. It sounds like I'm

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Speaker 1: at church. We're all gathered here today to talk to

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Speaker 1: tell us to a particular story. Um, what the the

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Speaker 1: THHC Daily Quarantine Cast is about? Really? Among other things,

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Speaker 1: is UH allowing me to drink white claw while talking

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Speaker 1: about awesome hunting stories with my buddies and so um,

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Speaker 1: And I imagine that's entertaining, at least to some levels.

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Speaker 1: So today we're gonna tell I think what I would

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Speaker 1: to Kodiak, Alaska in search of blacktailed deer, which are

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Speaker 1: not hard to find uh on the island of Kodyak, Alaska.

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Speaker 1: And let's just start with Cole. Cole, give us a

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Speaker 1: rundown of of your guiding service. What brought you to Kodiak,

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Speaker 1: because you brought us to Kodiak, and so we should

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Speaker 1: probably start of how you came to be there and

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Speaker 1: what you do there. Well, I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: While I'm explained, I'm just being so entertained by your

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Speaker 1: And I said, this could get real western, and Ben said,

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Speaker 1: you know that's fine. I want these guys to see

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what I was I did.

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Speaker 1: I remember saying that. But also, DJ, maybe you could

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Speaker 1: saying like this, this waterway here that we're hunting near

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Speaker 1: So I mean we can't. Don't. Don't get too reckless

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Speaker 1: None of that happened. Cole Is is one of the

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Speaker 1: But we had some products we wanted to test. That's

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Speaker 1: that it's weird. What a weird though? Um? Yeah, DJ

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Speaker 1: And DJ and another member of the product team, Derek,

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Speaker 1: got them, we put them in our packs, and um,

426
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: that's it for that deer. And did you guys kill

427
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: DJ Did you guys kill a deer the first day? Yeah?

428
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I shot mine on the first day

429
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 1: as well, but I remember right, it might have been

430
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: after noon and a little bit after you had shot yours.

431
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: We had set up kind of a snow canopy with

432
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: checking poles and a little tarp that Aaron had so

433
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: we could just glass around because we were seeing tons

434
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: of movement of deers throughout that more in early afternoon,

435
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: and finally had one pop up within a hundred yards

436
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: with I mean those blacktails such just a beautiful white

437
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: throat patch that I don't know. It was one of

438
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: those pictures in your mind that you'll never forget. That

439
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: we were able to get in pretty close on it

440
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: and get a nice shot um that Fortunately for me,

441
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 1: it was one shot down and we were cleaning up

442
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: a deer within a few minutes with Derek on looking

443
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: around for bear just to make sure nothing was going

444
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: to sneak up on us. Yeah. I mean, like I said, like,

445
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: the funny part about this trip is that the deer

446
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: hunting wild was fantastic. When we killed all six of

447
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: our deer, and I wasn't almost less than three days,

448
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: right Cole two and a half days? Um, you know,

449
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't recall I think it was. It probably had

450
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: to be around three days or so. Uh. You know,

451
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: your your second buck, I recall was was pretty cool,

452
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: um because I remember seeing that buck on a previous

453
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: hunt that we didn't get with an archery hunter and uh,

454
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: and so that was super cool to see him again.

455
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: He was pretty unique. And uh, you know when you

456
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: took that buck that that was really cool. And and

457
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: then aft remember right if you recall, you looked like

458
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: a uh, modern day Jeremiah Johnson coming out of the

459
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: coming out of the mountains after and I'll let you

460
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: explain that, but yeah, I mean we killed that second buck.

461
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: It was very like you could have replayed the first

462
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: day and the second day we picked up to look

463
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: over the same kind of humming flat and saw this

464
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: buck that you kind of known was in that area

465
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: and made a stock. I think I missed him on

466
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: the first shot and then dumped them on the second shot.

467
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, I know there was more than

468
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: one shot. Um, not that that matters, but it was.

469
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: It was it was astounding how similar a spot we

470
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: were in. I mean, we were, you know, five yards

471
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: or last maybe even then away from where I had

472
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: killed the buck the day before. And so to me,

473
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: you know, this wasn't easy hunting because the conditions were awful,

474
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: but um, you know we were we had there are

475
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: foxes everywhere, you know, we all had fox We're all

476
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: able to shoot. I think two foxes each and um

477
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: and we're when you we we shot this. We're taking pictures,

478
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Ben Potters, taking pictures of um, of this deer. And

479
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: once you get once you started gutting a deer, that

480
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: blood gets in the snow, that scent gets going around.

481
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: These foxes are coming. There's crossfoxes. What is the cross fox?

482
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Silver fox? Red fox? Is that right? Kind of what

483
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: you see? You have been in there? So fox game

484
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: rolling by, checking out the checking out the dead deer.

485
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: I got my rifle out and smoked him about a

486
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards and then on the way out, I'm like, well,

487
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: I want to get some camp meat. And there was

488
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: a charm again, just hanging tight on one of these

489
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: hanging tight on one of these uh hummic flats, and

490
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: I said, well, if I could shoot him in the

491
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: head with my rifle, we can definitely have some camp

492
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: meat out of this ptarmigan. And damn if I didn't

493
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: pull my rifle up, put it on his head and connect.

494
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: So I felt I was going back to camp with

495
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: a fox, a deer, and a ptarmigan all my back

496
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: and hang on, I believe you shot two foxes. Oh yeah,

497
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: I did shut one fox came up. I think the

498
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: red fox came up first. You shot the red fox,

499
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: and then the silver fox came up, and so you

500
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: have to shoot the silver fox because he's the most

501
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: prized and so uh so here you had two foxes

502
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Atarmigan in a huge black tail strapped onto your back.

503
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: And I didn't even want to help you because if

504
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, you have to carry all this because

505
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: this looks super awesome. So we'll have to put that

506
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: picture up, all right, people, people, people will not believe it. Okay,

507
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: it was. It was a Kodiak slam if if there

508
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: ever was one, that's for sure. But I mean, I'm thinking,

509
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: here's cold Kramer providing the ultimate adventure. The weather has

510
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: been in gnarly but not awful. We're killing deer I

511
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: had tagged out and when essentially what amount it's a

512
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: six or seven hours a hunting total, I would say, um,

513
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: for the whole whole shebang. These are two giant blacktail deer.

514
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: They there's a double pedestal amount that the Great Taxi

515
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Room Chris Kamack made for us. After this trip. That's

516
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: it's it's out of my garage is now sitting in

517
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: my office as I redo it. Um, it's one of

518
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: the more beautiful mounts. And when people see that these

519
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: two deer, they they that then they realized they're not

520
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: a mule deer, they're actually blacktail deer. Um, they're often shocked.

521
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean, these are two two beautiful box man and

522
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: those you'll find out in a minute here if they're

523
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: attached to great memories. But funny enough, like just the

524
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: hunting was pretty you know, I didn't take any long,

525
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: crazy shots. Um. Everything kind of just seemed to fall

526
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: in place, at least for me and you on hunt

527
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: with Ben as a photographer and DJ. You and Derek

528
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: had a great couple of days, right we did. I

529
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: know I shot one first that first day, and I

530
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: don't remember. I think Derek shot his first either late

531
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: that first day or that second day across the river again,

532
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: but he made a nice shot on a buck, you know,

533
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: a hundred hundred fifty yards away and in a great

534
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: spot to get a clean back to camp within within

535
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: a couple of hours. Yeah, And I'd like to point

536
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: out that you know that first day, if I recall,

537
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean that first day it started, it wasn't blowing

538
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: super hard, but it was snowing pretty heavily, like you said,

539
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: And from that point on the weather got pretty brutal.

540
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: It was very cold. It was either snowing or blowing

541
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: every day, and we hunted every day. I don't think

542
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: we there, you know, I don't think anyone uh uh.

543
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: We never set out a day of hunting. Um, it

544
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: was like you say, three, three or four days. But

545
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: it was brutal the rest of the island. Some people

546
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: were on lockdown. Um. There were nights that we I

547
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: know the one night we we got over eight amount

548
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: our winds out there because the pilot said it blew

549
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: over eighty and in town it clocked in and over

550
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: a hundred. Remember, it was brutal. And we never we

551
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: never did sit in the tents or then. We were

552
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: out hunting every single day. Uh. And you know every

553
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: day people brought in bucks. And I'm not d dj

554
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: was that year buck or Derek's buck that the horns

555
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: popped on that was, but yeah, they were dragging him

556
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: around that horn popped off. Yeah. I remember saying something

557
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: to Aaron and kind of everyone but made more more

558
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: towards Aaron. Hey, just be cautious. These horns could pop.

559
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: I tend to see like once it gets pretty cold

560
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: and brutal, seems like their horns start popping easier. And

561
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I remember seeing the handful of horns come

562
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: in and I thought, uh that someone must have popped one.

563
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: When that not Antler. Oh he looked up and he

564
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: saw Derek and he I thought he was going to

565
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: start crying. Man, Aaron is the nicest guy, a great guide,

566
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: and uh yeah he uh, you know, he's been guiding

567
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: for several years now, but that was, you know, still

568
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: early on in his guiding career. So it's you know,

569
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: to think that a client was gonna yell at him

570
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: for busting the horns off, but it happens you can

571
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: put him back on obviously. Well, I mean we I

572
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: remember a couple of nights where the wind was halinged,

573
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: but that second afternoon is when the wind got crazy. Yeah,

574
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: and I stayed. I think I might have stayed around

575
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: camp the glass and I remember Ben Potter was with

576
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: me and we were taking some photos and it was

577
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: so cold you could not we were stepping out of

578
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: I think, DJ, this is when you shot your second buck,

579
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: but it was so cold. We were trying to take

580
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: some photos and help clean some stuff up around camp,

581
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: and hiking up to the some of the hills above

582
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: us to glass and it was so cold. If you

583
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: took your glove off, it hurt immediately. I mean it

584
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: was rough, dj Um, I've wiped out a lot of

585
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: our personal memories. But was that you was I with

586
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: you on your second book? Or was that with Derek?

587
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: You were with Derek his second buck My second bucket

588
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: was aaron and I laid a second when Finn was

589
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: in a camp, and we fortunately found one and shot

590
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: one kind of down in a hole out of the wind,

591
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: because otherwise I don't know how we would have got

592
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: that thing cleaned up in time. I remember thinking, number one,

593
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: how are you going to make a shot longer than

594
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: fifty yards and not have a wind drift of seven

595
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: inches on any on any shot? And how are you

596
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna how are you gonna get a deer u out

597
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: of there? You can even stand up at some point

598
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: in the wind. So the first, the first couple of

599
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: days where it felt really nice, man, it turned it

600
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: turned quickly, like you said, when it started snow, and

601
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: you can still deal. But eventually it just got so

602
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: damn Yeah, I recall at that point because that that's right.

603
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: It was Derek and I and uh, who else would well,

604
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: I think Potter was with me that day and everyone.

605
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think here we shot his us. Yeah, yeah,

606
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: he Potters with us, and uh, because there's a group

607
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: of us, and I recall we made a big circle

608
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: around that flat that you got your buck on or

609
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: your bucks, and when we end up spotting this book,

610
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: it's like deer, we're just coming out in there to

611
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: feed like cows, you know, they needed to get out

612
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: are off the mountain. And I remember when he shot

613
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: that buck, there was other bucks out there and they

614
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: didn't even care. They're just like we have to feed

615
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: because it was so cold and so brutal. And we

616
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: worked on that deer and um, you know it's it's

617
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: so cold and people in the mountains are colder areas.

618
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: When you gotta butcher your animals right there, you know,

619
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: as soon as you start skinning them, your you put

620
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: your hands on that warm carcass like ah, because I

621
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: remember my hands were frozen trying to work on that

622
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: on that buck. But but yeah, it got downright brutal,

623
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: and I thought, man, this is good now we've got

624
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I think at that point, we've gotten all of our bucks,

625
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, okay, perfect, we gotta get out

626
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: of here. It's uh, it's getting downright brutal, um, you know,

627
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, you can have bays and

628
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: rivers and everything start freezing up. So I thought, yeah,

629
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: it's probably good we're done, and um, tomorrow we'll start

630
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: getting out of here, I guess, yeah, yeah, And and

631
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: we all felt I mean I felt great. We were

632
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: packing up to leave, packing the raffle of stuff. I mean,

633
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: we had acquired now what would now frozen six bucks

634
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: worth of meat. I mean, that's fortunds of meat per animal,

635
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: maybe even oh it's sixty less than that, sixties really easy,

636
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: um behind the head and the ailers. Yeah, yeah, no,

637
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: it's a fair amount of meat per buck. Those were

638
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: all older, mature bucks. So you're just so strong, so

639
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 1: you think, yeah, yeah, no, I remember carrying a big

640
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: load later on and just feeling like an alpha for

641
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: the first time. Right, you definitely look like the major

642
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: alpha of the group. Yeah, but being an average height

643
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: and all, yeah, right exactly. But yeah, because um, well,

644
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: here I'll let you continue your story. No, I mean

645
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: I remember feeling really good. I mean even at you know,

646
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: as an aside, like it's my job to go there

647
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: and collect certain things. We had gotten a bunch of

648
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: great photos. Um, we had tested the products we wanted

649
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: to test. We had achieved awesome time. We had laughed,

650
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: We dear meat every night after we killed had bucks

651
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: in camp, like we're gathering in the cook tent. If

652
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: you ever hung around cold cramer and long enough, you know,

653
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna have a bad time hanging around

654
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: camp talking ship and and joking, and it's as good

655
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: as it could be. I mean, everybody toughed out the

656
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: shitty weather, got it Thune. Well, that is the cool.

657
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: That's the cool thing about those hunts. That time of

658
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: you're like pretty much once you get into you know, November,

659
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: it's getting dark by five, you know, somewhere right in there.

660
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: So you're back. You need to get back to camp. Uh.

661
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Typically you know someone will be in the camp kind

662
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: of getting it warmed up, and other guys will be out,

663
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, hanging meat. So if I wasn't there getting

664
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: water hot for hot drinks or food ready, you know,

665
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: Aaron be hanging meat or we'd switch off and you know,

666
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: grab a couple of you guys. Hey, let's hang We

667
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: gotta get meat hung up in trees. Um and uh

668
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: um dealt with you know, to get everything locked down

669
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: for the night. Make make some rounds around the tent.

670
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: Make sure nothing's gonna blow away of all your guy

671
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: wires are good. But you know, the fun thing is

672
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: that time you're like I'm saying, is you know, by

673
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: six o'clock, got every all your chores done outside, and

674
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: now it's you go in. You hang out in there

675
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: and sitting around the wood stove blazing away and and

676
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: uh you know, everyone just sitting there hanging out and

677
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: having a little drink and talking about your day and

678
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: and uh playing and come, you know, trying off your clothes.

679
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: Remember you sitting there. It's like steam coming off the

680
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: side of the tent because all your wet clothes are

681
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: hanging around. Yuh. There's this particular musk that comes from

682
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: six dudes and a six wet duds in a tent

683
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: with deer meat and uh uh and the Alaskan dirt

684
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: all around. So yes, I mean I remember, that's a

685
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: great To that point, it was an amazing trip. Like

686
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: we're getting out of there, Scott free. I feel like

687
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: and and we got I feel great about it. Where

688
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: we load up these rafts. We had Aaron and his

689
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: own personal little raft, right, and then calling I in

690
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: a raft and Derek and Ben and um DJ and

691
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: another Is that right? I got that right camera. Yeah.

692
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: If it was two or three rafts or something, I

693
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: definitely think it was three. Yeah. These these you gotta picture.

694
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: These rafts are loaded down with gear, duffel bags full

695
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: of gear, bags full of meat, skull caps and and

696
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: all kinds of you know, I mean you're looking at

697
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: hides all strapped to the top of them. We look like, uh,

698
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: we're pioneering the organ trail at this point. I mean,

699
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: we got heavy, heavy rafts. Everyone's always amazed how much

700
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: we can fit on there, you know, and it looks overloaded.

701
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: But you know, and I remember thinking as we're loading

702
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: those rafts, you know, there's ice all along the edge

703
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: of the river, and I kept breaking it down and

704
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: everything was you know, ice and over on the rafts

705
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: and you water it splashes up on there, your your

706
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: waiters are freezing, like, man, we're gonna do it. This

707
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: is great because that day was a beautiful, cold day.

708
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't much when I thought, this is perfect, this

709
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: is our day, and boy, like you said, we got

710
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: out of here scott free. This dude, it was beautiful.

711
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: I was like giddy coming out of there on those rafts. Man,

712
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 1: I didn't do a bunch of rafting as you brought

713
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: as DJ kept yelling to me that I wasn't pulling

714
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: my weight. Uh, Cole was like dragging or raft while

715
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: I tried to paddle, and it just was I felt useless.

716
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: But even beyond that, I'll let you chime in there, DJ,

717
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: uh what you were feeling on that day. Yeah, I

718
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: was surprised you just kind of forgot to use it. Um,

719
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Thank thankfully you had Coal up front

720
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: there pulling you around back there right now. Yeah, he

721
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: was pulling me around, breaking ice and I was just

722
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: just paddling along. Yeah out, I don't even Yeah, but

723
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, where are you paddling to Ben? Like, I mean,

724
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: that's not even a real paddle method kind of left,

725
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, left. I was just like splashing around like

726
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: a little kid does with a toy duck, like the

727
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: rubber ducky in the bathtub. I remember giving you a

728
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: child's or he really won't have much direction with this,

729
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: but that's fine, we don't. It was just a stick

730
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: that you found on the side of the river. That

731
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: that's anyhow. What were your feelings, DJ though when you

732
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: were loading up that morning? Oh, and I think the

733
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: rafting was actually the highlight of the trip for me,

734
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: because you've got this euphoria sorts of filling out your tags,

735
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: having a lot of fun, and you're like, all right,

736
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: let's get on the water and let's head back to

737
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: the lagoon to get picked up. And at times there's

738
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of river running to you catch up

739
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of speed, and you kind of feel

740
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: like you're in Colorado having to coordinate with your other

741
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: boat mate or raft mate to go the right direction.

742
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: So I was having a lot of fun, lots of

743
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: sunshine that day, Like you said, it was a beautiful day,

744
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: and I know Potter got some great photos coming out

745
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: of there too, because it was just like perfect conditions

746
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: for the end of that trip. Yeah, I remember feeling

747
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: the same way, like the sun's hitting you, you've been cold,

748
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: you've kind of been working hard about having fun, and

749
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: like the feeling it's not euphoria maybe that's overstating it,

750
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: but you just feel like you're doing something, like you

751
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: feel there's adventure in the air, like you you are

752
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: floating out the deer you just killed in Alaska. Like

753
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: it's the right setting to feel adventure. You know. However,

754
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: however you would describe it, but it's true perfectly for

755
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: me as a guide, you know, that's part of the

756
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: whole trip. For me, I like giving people a job

757
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: to do and showing them that they can do it.

758
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: And you know, for me up front, uh, in the

759
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: front raft and then looking back and seeing you guys

760
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: back there floating down having a good time. We've got

761
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, deer all over the rafts and I'm just sinking, man.

762
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: You know, these guys that are really good job. Everyone's

763
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: done a fantastic job. Everyone got their bucks, everyone worked hard,

764
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: no one complained. Um, you know, just you know, just

765
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: recollecting the whole thing was just awesome to think. And

766
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: uh and then we float around this corner and I

767
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh, huh, I've never wow, I've never seen

768
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: that side channel froze over like that. Yeah. We we

769
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: we go from this floric state little boys at play

770
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: um to realizing that we are I don't know, a

771
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: mile and a half roughly from our our end point

772
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: at that we had floated for a while then and

773
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: then you know, there's it breaks a couple different ways,

774
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: and uh, when I saw this side channel froze over,

775
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: I thought, that's weird. Must just be right here, and

776
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: so I started breaking ice and going through it, and

777
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: I think, yeah. Then after a little bit, I thought,

778
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, I better just go up on the side

779
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: hill and I'll just climb up and look out this

780
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: flat and see how far I have to break ice.

781
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: And as I climbed the hill, it became fairly a

782
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: parent to me that, um, as far as the eye

783
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: can see, period, Uh, it is froze over for miles.

784
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean miles and miles and miles. And so that

785
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: was you know, at this point in time, I kind

786
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: of looked down and everyone's just you know, hanging out

787
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: and man, that's fun rafting blah blah blah talking to

788
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: each other. And I'm thinking, wow, I have to deliver this,

789
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: this amazing news to them that, uh, I have never

790
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: seen this happen before, never, you know, I have to

791
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: come up with a plan to get everyone out of

792
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: here now with all of this gear, all these dear

793
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: personal stuff, and we're supposed to fly out in in

794
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: a few hours. It's it's rather late in the day

795
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: by that time, and we had spent the whole morning

796
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: packing these rafts full of stuff, um, not thinking we'd

797
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: have to unpack them and make a camp. Yeah. And

798
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: so I remember, I remember realizing it where you were

799
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: off breaking ice and the guys were behind me kind

800
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: of talking. I was breaking ice with my little kittie

801
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: or that you gave me, and I broke the oar

802
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: on the ice. And just as I broke the oar

803
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: on the ice trying to break it, you came around

804
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: the corner from like from your high point, looking and

805
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: I could just see the look on your face. I

806
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, man, because I had, I had,

807
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: We all kind of knew what the implications where the

808
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: implications are, however far we are from the pickup point

809
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: is how far we need to get, and we have

810
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how what it was a thousand pounds

811
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: of gear more than that. I mean, it's a lot,

812
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, a lot if you had that

813
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: deer in there, you know. Yeah, So yeah, I remember calling,

814
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: I said, you know, there's just zero chance we're gonna

815
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: make out today. So I had to call the pilot

816
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: and let him know that we're not gonna make it,

817
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: cancel the flights, and I had to come up with

818
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: a solution to get everyone out of here. So um,

819
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: so yeah, we had to set up a camp that

820
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: night and come up with a plan. And it was

821
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: kind of like, Hey, we're just gonna have to get up, guys,

822
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning. Everyone's gonna put an entire

823
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: deer on their back, all the you know, it's all

824
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: obviously butchered up and in game bags, but you're gonna

825
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: have your pack with the with the full buck a piece.

826
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: And we were going to hike out to several miles

827
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: to the pickup point, drop a load, and we got

828
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: to hike all the way back up to our spot,

829
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: grab more gear, and just start hiking back. And you know,

830
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: you guys were up for the challenge. And so that's

831
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: what we did. We got up early and we started

832
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: packing up. I feel I remember, like, you don't get um,

833
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't at the news, I wasn't too worried about it. DJ.

834
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: Do you ever feeling like I feel like the spirits

835
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: were good because we put we had to take the

836
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: rafts down, to all the work to unload the rafts,

837
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: through all the work of rebuilding camp to some extent

838
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: to where we all had some structure to sleep and

839
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: cook a meal, try to make the plan for the

840
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: next day. All of it feels rushed. Um, but we

841
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: we still had pretty good spirits. We're still adventuring. We

842
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: had done some hard stuff already. We knew we could

843
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: get it done. Is that that is that where your

844
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: head was at? DJ? Yeah, I would say that. I know,

845
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: between Derek and myself, I don't think we were ready

846
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: for the trip to end. So it's a little bit

847
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: bitter sweet when you're rafting down having a good time,

848
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: but you had such fun that you're kind of like, hey,

849
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: this is all right, this is one more step in

850
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: the adventure and we get to hang around for a

851
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: couple more days and have a little a little bit

852
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: better of a story. You tell um, unbeknownst to us

853
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: that that wasn't the end of the story. Hell no,

854
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: if you would fast forward to the next night while

855
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: we were in that tent, it was not the same.

856
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: We pass over. Yeah, no, we're not gonna pass her.

857
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: That but we get to that the next night. But

858
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: so we get up the next morning. We have all

859
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: our gear, our waiters, all our stuff that we are, rifles,

860
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: everything from the hunt, plus two deer each um well

861
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: roughly one dear each after we split the deer up,

862
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of camp stuff, and and Cole

863
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: had planned like he could stash a good bit of

864
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: the gear um where we had made camp market and

865
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: then come back later when everything thought and grab that gear.

866
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: That's the tents, the rafts, everything that's not essential to

867
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: get out of there at that moment. But even with

868
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: two trips walking on what is a frozen beachhead, I

869
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: guess at this point like, well, the whole way down

870
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: you can't just walk on the bottom. It was all

871
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: backed up because the lagumas froze over, the fresh water

872
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: was building up against the all the slush and everything

873
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: started to freeze up and so backed up in the

874
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: whole entire valley, so you could not walk on the

875
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: flat of the valley. So there's ice like broken up

876
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: ice and slush down in there, and it was super slippery.

877
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: So we had to side hill the whole way basically

878
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: until we got out there and got out towards where

879
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: you could kind of walk on a beach, and at

880
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: that point, you know, it's still very, very slippery. My

881
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: thing was it wasn't. I mean, you know, as a guide,

882
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: you're you're constantly worried about someone getting hurt. And that

883
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: was my worry for someone, because everyone fell, everyone was

884
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: slipping on the ice, everyone went down. I mean we're

885
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: talking everyone had, you know, pushing a hundred pounds in

886
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: the back on on the first load, and in also

887
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: the second load, and so uh, the first load we

888
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: took out all deer in some gear and when we

889
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: got out there, we stashed it and then we started

890
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: hustling back to camp, back up several miles. We get

891
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: up there and it's like load back up with your

892
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: personal gear and anything else we can grab. And you know,

893
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: these are still heavy packs because you know, you're you're

894
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: you're planning on it being floated out. You know, it's

895
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: not like everyone just brought, you know, twenty pounds of

896
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: personal stuff. You know, it's these are you know, full

897
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: panangas full of of gear per guy, plus some other

898
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: stuff in your pack, you know, other things. And so

899
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: then the second trip you're you're i mean, you know,

900
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: we're hustling and it starts to snow and we I

901
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: remember finally getting out towards the lagoon and it's it's

902
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: later in the afternoon. Now it's pushing three o'clock. You know,

903
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: you can only land on a high tide in there,

904
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: and it wasn't fully high tide. They were gonna come

905
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: before the high tide, and there's certain channels you have

906
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: to land and otherwise you just can't land out there.

907
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: And I remember kind of yelling at everyone because I

908
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: was ahead of you guys, like, come on, we gotta push,

909
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: gotta get out here. These guys are gonna land if

910
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: they if they come. But here it's starting a blizzard,

911
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, oh, man, you know we still have

912
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: to push hard to get out there. Number one, to

913
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: drop all our stuff. But number two, I mean, we

914
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: can't just get out there in the planes wait on

915
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: us forever, and I may have to check the water

916
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: levels and radio to them. And sure enough, here comes

917
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: the plane or two two beavers coming in, and I

918
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: honestly cannot believe that they're coming in this blizzard. Um,

919
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: two of our our buddies that are pilots or beavers

920
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: coming in, flying in Unison together, uh, you know, fairly

921
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: close to each other so they can see each other

922
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: where they're at. And for some reason, they're stinking radios

923
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: weren't working very well during that time period. And I

924
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: remember yelling at him on the radio like can you

925
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: hear me? Can you hear me? And they were asking

926
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: me how deep it was, and you know, I'm only

927
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: got knee deep water and these are beavers. And I

928
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: told was trying to tell them to go Land further

929
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: out than taxi up to us. But the snow started

930
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: coming down so hard, and it's such a gloomy time

931
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: period nearly December as it is, they just really can't

932
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: see that well. And I remember what I'm saying, sorry,

933
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: and I thought I heard him say, we gotta go.

934
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: And when they started, you know, leaving, it was like,

935
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: oh man, up until this point, everyone's thinking, who, we've

936
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: made it. They're gonna come with Land. We're going back

937
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: to town and and uh and as the beat that

938
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: they you know, I could hear, I could make out

939
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: when they said, sorry, man, we gotta go, and I

940
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: just thought it to myself, holy crap. And uh, so

941
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: off they went. They had to go back town because

942
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: the snow was getting so so heavy that they couldn't

943
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: really see, and they knew that the water level probably

944
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: wasn't quite high enough. If it was clear out, they

945
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: could have landed in some tight little channels and then

946
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: tax it up, but you just couldn't see anything, so

947
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: it's way too risky. And plus they're just worried about

948
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: getting back to town. So they they took off, and

949
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: I had a genuine concern for their lives as well,

950
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: but I just couldn't believe that they actually battled to

951
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: get out there just to try to pick us up.

952
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, as they as they turned around and go

953
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: back towards town, here I see everyone like starting to

954
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: group up and come up to me like, Okay, what

955
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, are they landing or what's going on? And

956
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: I remember having to deliver the bad news you guys, like,

957
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: uh um, sorry guys. They they had to go, And

958
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: you know what, what were you guys thinking at that point? Well,

959
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: like I said, like, as you're telling the whole story,

960
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: like to go back to a little bit of where

961
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: how the day win. This is a full day of hiking,

962
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: like a full day of side killing. Yeah, from dark

963
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: to dark with a hundred pounds in your back. So

964
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: there's a couple of times there's a photo of all

965
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: of us like resting, taking a rest on. I think

966
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: the second the second trip back to the to the

967
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: to the beach, where we look like the most depressed.

968
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: We look like the most like a boy band that

969
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: just lost their contract, like it is not it is not,

970
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: it's not a happy time, like maybe the first trip

971
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: out there. So we walk a couple of miles side

972
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: hill in ice for two miles. Eventually we started putting

973
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: on our we would we got out our waiters and

974
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: just wore our waiters because it was so ridiculous. So

975
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: we got out there, we dropped our packs, we have

976
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: some food, We're still feeling pretty good. But by the

977
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: time we get back to camp the second time, load

978
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: up another hundred pounds. We were all kind of like

979
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: reluctantly putting those packs back on, knowing what we had

980
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: to do now. And by the time we made it

981
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 1: out there, I remember how desperate I was to get

982
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: that thing off my back. When I when we saw

983
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: the beach at Ben Potter made it before me, but

984
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: I was chugging along. I was real confident that I

985
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: was kicking ass, and I just remember you up there,

986
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: him up there before me, and he's taking photos and

987
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm just is I'm feeling like a badass at this point,

988
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: but I'm also desperate to get this damn pack off

989
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: my back. And at that point it was nice out

990
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: like it was, it was relatively okay. And then by

991
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: the time Derek DJ got up there, that snow started

992
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: to drop into the freaking lagoon like you wouldn't believe.

993
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: And there is a what I would the one of

994
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 1: the photos of the trip is a photo of you

995
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: call waiting halfway out, like nipple deep in the water,

996
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: waving your hand up in the air. I just said,

997
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: knee deep. You can't say it was nipples, said, yeah,

998
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: I said knee deep. I'll go waist deep right in

999
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: the middle somewhere nipples in your knees. Well, you were

1000
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: in the water. There was there was great white sharks

1001
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: swimming around. You had you had just saved an old

1002
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: lady uh Cross Street. Yeah, no, it's crazy. There was

1003
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,959
Speaker 1: a bear on a surfboard. Um, you're out there, wave

1004
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: into this plane. You got your like you could see

1005
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: how desperate the wave is. You got your radio in

1006
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: your hand trying to talk to him, and and all

1007
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: that DJ, Derek and the rest of our crew could do,

1008
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: and myself and just kind of stand there and watched

1009
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: this and try to think of like what might happen.

1010
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: And it was cold, snowy, getting dark when we finally

1011
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: got the news that we had to get some of

1012
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: our stuff back on our backs and hike in the

1013
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: dark the two miles back to the ten. How many

1014
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: miles was it? I feel like a man. No, it

1015
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: was like I think it was four miles four miles. So, DJ,

1016
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: what's your Describe your feeling as you got the news.

1017
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: I've often described you as like a little mountain goat Ben.

1018
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: It seemed like you have the spark plug and ability

1019
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: to get through anywhere at any time. And I remember

1020
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: when the plane left, like you hear the hum and

1021
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: all of a sudden the humes gone. My energy level

1022
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: completely lost, like it just left us all I think.

1023
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: And I remember that walk back was was the slowest

1024
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: hike I think maybe of my life, because there's quite

1025
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: a bit of dejection of oh man, okay, we've got him.

1026
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: It's already sketchy as it is when it was light out,

1027
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: but yet now we got to find a way back,

1028
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: not get hurt, and then try to have some semblance

1029
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: of the meal before we not off a sleep in

1030
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: a cluster little tent. Well. And when that happened, you know,

1031
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: when the plane left, I just remember turning to you guys,

1032
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: say sorry, guys. And from my point of view as

1033
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: a guide, this is the this is typically the time

1034
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: period where you start hearing the grumbles and the swearing

1035
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: and the and and just all the negativity coming out.

1036
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: And I said, guys, sorry, but we gotta hike back

1037
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: up to where all of our camp stuff is. Um,

1038
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: grab just your personal goods that you need for the night,

1039
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: so sleeping bag, pad and just your personal things. We're

1040
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: gonna leave everything else right here where the plane can

1041
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: hopefully get us tomorrow. If it doesn't, you know, freeze

1042
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: up even more. And uh so we grabbed our personal

1043
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: stuff and and but as we're doing that, I just

1044
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: remember kind of looking around and and I will tell

1045
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: you your guys credit. Not one of you guys said

1046
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: anything out loud, negative or anything. Everyone knew they had

1047
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: a job to do. Everyone just loaded up what they needed.

1048
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I know we were all thinking it inside,

1049
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: but at that point. I mean, honestly, that's the thing

1050
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: that Beat in the Wilderness teaches you. You can't just

1051
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: lay down and say I'm done, I give up. You can't,

1052
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have a really, really shitty night. So uh,

1053
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: but so everyone loaded up. They knew they had a

1054
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: job to do, and then we hiked our way back up.

1055
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: It took our time getting up there, and we I

1056
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: think that night we just set up the one big,

1057
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: big tent and we had all six of us just

1058
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: laid in there. Yeah, I mean it took us. It

1059
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: takes you hours. I mean, I don't know how many

1060
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: hours to get to to go those miles to get

1061
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: back to the tent. But then the tent is you

1062
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: have to put the tent back up. I don't know why.

1063
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: I remember this as being the worst moment, but putting

1064
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: the tent back up, I remember being the most And I,

1065
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: as DJ was saying, I felt like when the pack

1066
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: out to get to the beach, and I felt the

1067
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: most capable I've ever felt my life. I'm like, man,

1068
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, we got a hundred pounds in my back, Like,

1069
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: let's go. Man, I feel good, I'm gonna get this.

1070
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: Give me a Snicker's Bar and let's fucking get it.

1071
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: Like I felt great, but I remember, like we're returning

1072
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: back to the tent, having to put the tent back

1073
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: up somehow. Is this like in the cold in the dark.

1074
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: It was just such an insult to me having to

1075
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: like erect this tent again, um and go crawl into

1076
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: it and eat like a mountain house meal and sleep

1077
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: six people all around the outside of this tent um.

1078
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: That was a low point. I think all of us

1079
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: were kind of like still laughing, still joking and trying

1080
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: to make it good, like you were saying. Cold. I

1081
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: was proud of the whole crew. Nobody flipped out, nobody

1082
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: lost it. Everybody kept their heads, but nobody was like

1083
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: we had such a good time prior to that. It

1084
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: was such such a low feeling to not really know

1085
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. To put this in perspective

1086
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: for people, I mean, when you come up to Alaska

1087
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: and there's it happens a lot of times where you

1088
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: break camp and the weather picks up and the pilot

1089
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: can't make it in they call you and say sorry,

1090
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: we can't do it, or they just don't show up. Okay,

1091
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: and um and then so you have to you feel

1092
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: a little dejected and you put camp back up, and

1093
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. But this is it's

1094
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: a different level when you were dealing with extreme weather

1095
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: and having to hike hours back up to where your

1096
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: camp is and then have to set it back up.

1097
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: It's a it's a new level of just you know,

1098
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: I would say depression or whatnot that that like literally

1099
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: hits you like, wow, we now we have to We've

1100
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: already done two round trips. Now we have to do

1101
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, hike all the way back up there and

1102
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: set up our big camp, you know. And so it's

1103
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: not like you just go back to your lake edge

1104
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: or whatever and set your tent right back up. So

1105
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: that was you know, I've had to do that a

1106
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: billion times, but so that was that was definitely one

1107
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: of the uh rougher time to do that. But you know,

1108
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: as a leader, you kind of just kind of like,

1109
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: all right, guys, load your ship back up, let's go.

1110
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: And and that's exactly what you guys did. So my

1111
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: point of you guys did awesome, you know, and I

1112
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: think when we got back up there, everyone was, you know,

1113
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: you get you just do what you gotta do. You

1114
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: get in the tent and everyone is is stoked once

1115
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: you get in there and you put your pad down,

1116
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: getting your sleeping bag, you know, get your meal. It

1117
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: does get people back in a better mood, right and um, yeah, no,

1118
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: I think you know it's funny. And we sit now

1119
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: kind of in uh we were talking about this in

1120
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: some other shows this week. You're sitting now in a

1121
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: weird kind of I don't know, weak point for our

1122
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: society where we're not we don't have the structure we're

1123
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: used to, we don't really have the services we're used to. Like,

1124
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: things are a little bit weird, and it's strangely analogous

1125
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: to being able to survive or you know, we weren't.

1126
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: We weren't like close to death or anything, but be

1127
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: able to to conquer the things that we had to

1128
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: do out there that those days, being cold, being tired

1129
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: of being hungry, but still you know, back hurts, shoulders hurt,

1130
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: hundred pounds on your back, you know, being able to

1131
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: do those things in a place where there isn't any

1132
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: comfort around the corner. You can't walk in to a

1133
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: place with heat. Um, like that's kind of weirdly useful

1134
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: right now. Um, because if you've done that comparing to

1135
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: like not being able to go to Chipotle on a Thursday,

1136
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: who gives a ship. Um, once you've experienced something like this,

1137
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: So it's weird how it has its it has its

1138
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: benefits in the situation we're in now and we're simply

1139
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: being asked to sit in our houses. Um, that's no

1140
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: big deal. But anyway, anyway, we get up the next morning.

1141
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: I think we were all feeling a little bit better. Um.

1142
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know I had if this had

1143
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: happened right away. But the worry was the tide would

1144
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 1: have been out so far by the time that there's

1145
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: play the low planes would come back, that we would

1146
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: be in there for days longer until the tide came

1147
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: back up enough for us to get of somebody to learn.

1148
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: So so what we had to do, because that was

1149
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: the whole thing that I had to think about, Um

1150
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: that day, that the planes couldn't get us because um,

1151
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: because of that situation, that was the last day that

1152
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: they could actually land in there for a few days,

1153
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: several days, and with the tide on floats because the

1154
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: high tide would come in in the dark. These are

1155
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: extreme tides and kodiak and uh, so I I was

1156
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: thinking that night, Okay, well, now the hurdle is seeing

1157
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: if these guys can get their wheel plane lined up

1158
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: to where they can land on this beach that they

1159
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: have never landed on before. And so um, you know,

1160
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: trying to set up those logistics with those guys, and

1161
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be multiple loads with this plane with all

1162
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: of us and the deer and our gear and everything.

1163
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: So uh, they you know, we got the plan put

1164
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: in place, and um woke up next morning. This time,

1165
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: I recall, we actually loaded up the base camp tents everything.

1166
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: And these are you know the tents alone or or

1167
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: fifty pound tents. You know, one of them is a

1168
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: good sixty pounds or so. Um. So this time we

1169
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: actually took our camp down there. We just didn't flat

1170
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: out just didn't have the room. The first time or

1171
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: the second load that we went down there, we just

1172
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: there's just no room, like you weren't packing these monster tents.

1173
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: So but the next day we just had those strapped on.

1174
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: Three of us had tents, or maybe we just took

1175
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: two of them down there, but regardless, uh, we loaded

1176
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: up what we needed for to stay overnight down there

1177
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: if we had too. Now we were prepared to do

1178
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: that right and but as luck would have it, the

1179
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: day was good. Everyone loaded up, We're all heavy again

1180
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: going down there, and uh, I don't know how long

1181
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: the whole process took, but we got down there to

1182
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: our beach. I mean, there was all sorts of ice

1183
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: lining the beach, and we had to break ice and

1184
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: get all of those chunks out there because uh, you know,

1185
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want our pilots landing and hitting ice chunks

1186
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: with the propellers or or the wheels, and and because

1187
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: we also had a wind blowing back on shore and

1188
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: there was a bank there, I didn't want him getting

1189
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: pushed into. So it was once we got there, we

1190
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: still had a lot of work to do to prep

1191
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: that beach for the guys and make sure there's no

1192
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: big rocks and stuff for him to hit. And once

1193
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: our pilot got in there, you know, it was all

1194
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: worked for him, and he was doing a great job.

1195
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: And we had another pilot stage and another village by

1196
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: there that he was just you know, uh, landing and

1197
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: and dropping loads off and he was coming directly back.

1198
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know how long that took but several

1199
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: hours altogether. I mean, I I remember there's a bunch

1200
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: of that stuff, like getting to the beach head for

1201
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: you know what essentially is the third time round trip.

1202
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: I felt amazing. Uh, we had lunch, we cleared the

1203
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: beach off, we took a bunch of photos. It felt

1204
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: good like that felt like it was over. Um, but

1205
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: it was still sketchy. I think we're maybe just tricking ourselves.

1206
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: At some point, you know, the pilot, I don't he

1207
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: deserves credit. I can't remember his name, um Keller, Yeah,

1208
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: for one of the crazy brothers from earlier in the story. Um,

1209
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: you said at some point, like I think he's going

1210
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,959
Speaker 1: to bring a wheel plane in here, because we had discussed, like, man,

1211
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: we got they might have to air drop some pizzas

1212
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: to us if we got to stay in here for

1213
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: two or three more days. UM, let's let's clear that up.

1214
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: We had six deer we could eat, so yeah, but

1215
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: we we needed some junk food they might have. How

1216
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna have We need PEPSI that's one thing we

1217
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: figured we got. You got plenty of food. But at

1218
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: the time, you know, it's like you're you're cautiously optimistic.

1219
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: It was a nice day, Like, it was a very

1220
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: nice day that day, um, compared to what we've had,

1221
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: I know. So yeah, we felt that there was no snow.

1222
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: It was windy. I do remember that too, and there

1223
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: were some cold moments. But um, I'll let you talk

1224
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I know, I remember there's a

1225
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: photo of us all holding our bucks on the beach

1226
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: head once once we by the water there. Once we

1227
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: kind of had already cleared the beach for the plane

1228
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: to land, and it was it was really the culmination

1229
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: of an adventure trying to watch stand there and watch

1230
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: this wheel plane go around and come back and go around,

1231
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: and just that the anticipation of those wheels touching the

1232
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: dirt and the rocks, um was huge. DJ I don't remember.

1233
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: At some point cold or someone said all right, who's

1234
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: going on this first plane? And my name came up

1235
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, hell, yeah, I'm on this first

1236
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: plane because I don't know if another plane is going

1237
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: to get back in here. And I was like, well,

1238
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: let's throw like the most dispensable guys we have on

1239
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: the first plane case he crashes this guy. Yeah, let's

1240
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: get the other Kansas guy out of here. I'll take

1241
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: care of Kansas if he leaves. Also, here was here

1242
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite parts of the whole trip,

1243
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: like the favorite moment now that that happened, where the

1244
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: plane finally lands, we can only get um, all but

1245
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: two of us on the plane. I think it was

1246
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: I think I put you three guys on there. I recall, right,

1247
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: that was me and you stayed back Cole. But it

1248
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: was there was a moment of negotiation where you're like, well,

1249
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: who's gonna go and who's gonna stay because you don't

1250
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: know they're faring us back to a small town, a

1251
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: small I think fishing Tali village. It's just like seven

1252
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: structures in a in a landing spot. Um, but you

1253
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: know we're some small area anyway, there was a chance

1254
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: that who knows, I mean, the weather could change and

1255
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: the two people left behind what could be left behind?

1256
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: For some time we didn't know, um, And so Ben Potter,

1257
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: the camera guy, was was everybody was. DJ gets on,

1258
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: Derek gets on, and then Ben looks at me and

1259
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, like just one me to say something,

1260
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: And I was I was like, dude, I planned this trip,

1261
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: I got us into this. I'll stay with Cole I

1262
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: don't care, and he hugged me. He hugged me like

1263
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: I never been hugged in my life. Like he he

1264
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't want to say he was. He was like on

1265
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: a big like he had to leave and go somewhere

1266
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: else immediately as well. There was some sort of major

1267
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: commitment that he had it. He's worried about that, but

1268
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: everyone's obviously stoked just to get out of there. No,

1269
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean he admitted to me later on, he's like,

1270
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: I had to go. He had to go film a

1271
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: waterfoul thing um that he had been planning for months, years, whatever,

1272
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: and he needed to get out of there. But I

1273
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: know what DJ said is right like that. It was

1274
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 1: getting on that plane. So yeah, it's Cole and I

1275
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: got to sit back. We'll watch you guys take off.

1276
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: And then uh Camel swung back around and picked us up,

1277
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: and we there were I think there was three trips

1278
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: because I know when I was there. Oh yeah, I

1279
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: know there was three of us. Me, you and Aaron

1280
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: stayed back. Yeah. I think you and Aaron went next,

1281
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: and then I a back and came out the end.

1282
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: That's right now. We finally all got back there. Djil,

1283
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: let you try to tell this wasn't there on the

1284
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: flight back maybe coal You remember there was an old

1285
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: lady that had a goose in one of the planes. Yeah,

1286
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: that that was the plane I took from the village

1287
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: back to Kodiak where we loaded up with I don't know,

1288
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: maybe six people total in that plane. I was out

1289
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: front with the pilot, but there was a goose that

1290
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: was honking the entire way back to Kodiak, with a

1291
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: young woman, an old woman, an old man. Like it

1292
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 1: was quite a neglected group in there. To get to

1293
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: know on that short trip back. That was one of

1294
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: my favorite parts of the whole trip. Like there's just

1295
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: little moments in a story like this where you like

1296
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: you could make this up if you tried. Like you're

1297
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: flying back to Kodiak with a bunch of old like

1298
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: random people and a goose, and it's like, after all

1299
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: we've been through trying to get out of here. Like

1300
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: I was generally proud of our group of guys that

1301
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: that nobody cracked, nobody made it harder, everybody was up

1302
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: for whatever challenge. Cole Cole would never say this, but

1303
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: he's like, not only one of the better outdoorsmen I've

1304
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: ever met, but a leader, a true leader, UM, sets

1305
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: the tone, works his ass off, make sure people know

1306
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: what they have to do. Like that's a huge thing.

1307
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: And this wasn't We're not in some survival situation. This

1308
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: isn't some Discovery Channel show, but it is. Um. It

1309
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: was hard, and we did have to do some hard

1310
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: things to get to get out of there and get

1311
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 1: back to Kodiak. So you don't want to over overplay

1312
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: the situation. But but it takes all those things for

1313
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: it to work. Yeah. No, and and thank you. I

1314
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: appreciate the compliment, UM, But you know, that's what I've

1315
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: I've had several benchmarks in my career, whether it be

1316
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: sheep hunting or mountain goat hunt or deer hunter, bear hunt,

1317
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: and like the type of stocks you do, and the

1318
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: and the physical benchmarks you set on these hunts. And

1319
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: I've had some really crazy things happen throughout the years, UM,

1320
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: trying to hike out or get to a plane or whatever.

1321
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: But that was a pretty good mentally and physically exhausting

1322
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: into the trip, Um, I would say. And uh, and

1323
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: just dealing with the amount of people. It's not just

1324
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: one person, there's six people, and uh, you know, so yeah,

1325
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: once again, that was you guys did a great job.

1326
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: And um, it's just the thing is uh. And I

1327
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: think people going through this time right now, I think

1328
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: this is the first time that people have ever had,

1329
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: like there a lot of people this first time that

1330
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: they've ever had to go through something of this nature,

1331
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: which is the first time for all of us to

1332
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: be in a quarantine situation, right kind of thing and

1333
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: social distancing. And it's for me, nothing's nothing's changed up here.

1334
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing my daily life of of you know, I

1335
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: just kind of stick to myself anyways here in Kodiak.

1336
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: But it's times, like you said earlier, looking back to

1337
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: these the hunts and the things that we do as hunters,

1338
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: and the and the luxuries that we don't have out

1339
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: in the field, um, and the things that we put

1340
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: ourselves through, I think it really really pays off. Um.

1341
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: And it you know, it's just the petty things you

1342
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: see people freaking out over, uh during these times. I

1343
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: think it makes us outdoorsman shine a little bit on

1344
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: what you know, if we're able to be a leader

1345
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: and step up to your family or friends and say

1346
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: now it'll be okay. You know, we're we we've got this,

1347
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: we've got meeting the freezer, you know, and maybe there's

1348
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: friends that don't have the meet and they're freaking out

1349
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: and you're able to share with other people and and whatnot.

1350
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: But I think all that, you know, what we went through,

1351
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: and like, uh, I know it definitely helps for for

1352
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: times like this. You know, I think it does too.

1353
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: You know, it may seem trite at some level to

1354
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: say that, but it is true. I mean, I've been

1355
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: lucky enough to go on some adventures to call some

1356
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: of the hardest days of my life. We're trying and

1357
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: like I'm voluntarily going out there um with and doing

1358
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: some things that really test every part of you. And

1359
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: once you have that perspective on what hardship really is

1360
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: and what overcoming, you know, very very when somebody puts

1361
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: a hunter pound pack on you and says march four

1362
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: miles that way on the ice, there's a lot of

1363
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 1: reactions you can have, and one of them could be like, Nope,

1364
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: not doing it. You're gonna have to do double trip.

1365
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: Call I didn't pay for this. Um Yeah, Either your

1366
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: job is to get me out of here, or or

1367
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: you can say Nope, no problem, I will make it

1368
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: happen as quick as I possibly can. Let's go. UM.

1369
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: And that's you know, I've seen it in other people

1370
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: during this I don't want to call this quarantine a crisis,

1371
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: but uncomfortable situation where you can either say like, oh

1372
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, look at all the stress I have and

1373
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: all the things that are changing around me. Or you

1374
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: could say like I'm gonna get up every day and

1375
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: doing the best I can to make this um the

1376
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: best day possible, regardless of the situations I can control

1377
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: and can't control. UM. So it's it's weird how these

1378
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of things all smashed together. But I'll let you

1379
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: say some words DJ about what you think on this subject.

1380
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: But I think for me as a hunter, when you

1381
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: go through these, you know, these experiences, they never really

1382
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: stop returning to your life like they come back all

1383
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: the time, UM in weird little ways, little idiosyncrasies within

1384
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: your life where you can call on these adventures and

1385
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: still draw from them what you've learned. UM. And this

1386
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: is just another example of that. Did you remember coming

1387
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: back on that trip or from that trip, just thinking

1388
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: how simplified life was when you're out for several days

1389
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: and you're at some point you're not sure exactly when

1390
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get home, but it's pretty simple. You wake up,

1391
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: you hike somewhere, you you try to hunt something for food,

1392
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,839
Speaker 1: you're sleeping at night. You have kind of this communal

1393
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: aspect of hanging out with friends. It's like the perfect setting.

1394
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: So those situations like we're in now, life is kind

1395
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: of simplified right now. And I don't always find comfort

1396
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: in that because when you're outdoors or you're outside or

1397
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: your hunting or whatever, life gets pretty simple. And I

1398
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: don't know, I just have a lot of positive feelings,

1399
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: are positive memories from this trip and other trips where

1400
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,879
Speaker 1: I draw upon when when things get little bit crazy

1401
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: here at home. Yeah, I mean we'll all share this forever, man,

1402
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: Like well that those experiences that that sounds a little

1403
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: over over dramatic, but we will, man. But we'll be

1404
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: able to call back on this this experience together when

1405
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: we see each other. We all live in different places,

1406
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: but that will never go away. Um. And so you know,

1407
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: it might seem like the worst part of the hunt

1408
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: was when we hit that ice that frozen river, but

1409
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: in the end, I think it's the best part, you know,

1410
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: because when we tell this story. It's not I got

1411
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: these giant ear thanks to Cole that are hanging in

1412
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: my house here. But um, in regards of the work

1413
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: I had to do to get them, most of the

1414
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: work laid on Cole's intellectual property of finding them and

1415
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: knowing where they were and being able to take me

1416
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: to them. All I had to do is make the shot.

1417
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: And so I don't look at those and think that

1418
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm some great hunter. But I do look at those

1419
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: and think, man want to experience what a what a thing? Um?

1420
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: And those become emblematic of of of that, um, you know,

1421
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: transformation in a way. So I don't want to overstate

1422
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: any of this. Ship it's a hunt. We had some troubles,

1423
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: but um, I mean, but I think it's all building blocks.

1424
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: So you know, every I think, every adventure is the

1425
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle of life of how how you're

1426
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: made up, you know, and and how you handle things.

1427
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, everyone I think was whether whether

1428
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: you wanted it or not. Everyone gets slightly changed by

1429
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: those situations for the you know, mostly for the good. DJ.

1430
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: Did you have some issues after that hunt? Oh? Yeah,

1431
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean the over there never freezes over. No one

1432
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: ever gets sick. But I came home and had some

1433
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: stomach bug for maybe a month or longer, I don't

1434
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: remember how long, but cool I got stronger from it.

1435
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah right, and um yeah, And that's the thing. Whether

1436
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: what that was, I don't know, because I know I

1437
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: wasn't sick, or I don't know if anyone else was,

1438
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: but and yeah I was. I honestly wasn't sure what

1439
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: it was that got you. And I couldn't remember. I

1440
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: don't think it wasn't jardia or anything like that. I

1441
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: don't think it was. It wasn't some other some type

1442
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 1: of yeah I have this other some time, some type

1443
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: of gluten sensitivity or whatever. So well, remember, remember I

1444
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: think Potter it was. They were we were like, oh,

1445
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna make us gluten free. He's gluten free,

1446
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: and so we're like, man, don't spread it to us.

1447
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: So is this do you feel gluten free? Now? Yeah?

1448
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, are you feeling? He affected me? Exactly?

1449
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: We have so many like there's so many inside jokes

1450
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: that no one would find funny. But like the lip

1451
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: zips commercials we were doing, uh Ben Potters like I'm here,

1452
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm sponsored by lip Zips, which, if you guys don't know,

1453
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 1: is a health door chapstick company branded towards hunters. H

1454
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: he had what he had. I'm here sponsored by lip Zips.

1455
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: I got my spicy watermelon flavor like little things like that. Man,

1456
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: But I had honestly no clue that this company actually

1457
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: did exist. And I'm not sayingthing bad about them. They're

1458
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: great company, not a sponsor. Don't know anything about them.

1459
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: But I remember hashtagging that a couple of times, and

1460
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: then someone actually liked my comment from lips lips. I

1461
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: remember in the months I message him like, this is real.

1462
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: I had no clue. In the months after under after

1463
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: this trip, we were hashtagging everything lips lips, and lips

1464
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: Ips noticed that and started sending us messages like, hey,

1465
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: we'd love to send us some product. I don't think

1466
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 1: I can take your product. This is all a joke. Sorry,

1467
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: lips Ips. Um much respect out there, the lips Ips.

1468
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: We love you. You're keeping those lips chapped and moist

1469
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: in this in this hard time, I'm sure. Um well regardless,

1470
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: um no, it was an awesome trip with you guys.

1471
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: You guys did a great job. I had, you know,

1472
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: It was super cool for me because I recalled that

1473
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: was that was really cool because that was when you're

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Speaker 1: working for Yetti, And I felt really proud of you guys.

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01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: When when the when the adventure finally got over, you

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01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: guys finally got on your air playing left. I I

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01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: just think remember thinking, man, this is this was pretty awesome.

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01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: These guys did a great job, you know. I was

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01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: pretty proud to just to close it out. Like if

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01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: if do you want to know what delicious sushi tastes like,

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01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: or what real delicious, how how amazing a Snicker's bark

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01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: and taste, or what a shower can really feel like,

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01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: or any of the many things that you take for granted,

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01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: go out and get your asking by Kodiak Island or

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01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,799
Speaker 1: in our case Cole, maybe even Nepaul to him Alaya.

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: Like if you want to really appreciate things you have

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01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: in life, you have to erase them from it for

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01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: some time. UM. It is essential to who we are

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01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: and so UM you know we we wrote about this

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01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: on mediator dot com this week. UM hunters and anglers

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01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: and outdoorsmen and adventures are well suited for any challenge,

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01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: let alone, UM sit at home quarantine so hopefully everybody

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01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: listen to that can take something from this story and

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01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: go on with your day, and um have have been

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: entertained by our hardship. So thank you, Cole, thank you,

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: DJ To, Thanks love you. But that's it. That's all.

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Speaker 1: Hell of a story, hell of the time. Two of

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: my very best people in the freaking world right there,

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Speaker 1: d J. Bell and Cole Kramer. You know, one of

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Speaker 1: the best things about this for me, Phil is that

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01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: I guess get to tell stories with some of my

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01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: best buds um about hunting, and that's one of my

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01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: favorite things to do. That's a the ultimate distraction from

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01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff going on in the world right now.

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're you're taking lemons and you're turning them

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01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: into lemon we app apple lemonade, lemonade, lemons, lemonade TC

1507
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: daily quarantine cast. So hopefully by now you are are

1508
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: thinking of your the Great Hand Turkey contest. You're looking

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01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: at your hand. You're you're thinking of what your hand

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01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: could become, what kind of turkey it could turn into,

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01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: what kind of legend it could be. You're thinking of

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01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: exciting ways to get creative and impress and philthy engineer here.

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01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: Um So Phil. As we get into the weekend, I

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: assume everybody's gonna be going out and drawing their hand turkeys.

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01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: What do you expect me to see come Monday when

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01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: we return. Uh, well, it's gonna you, you said, a

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01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: high bar. With the poems and the drawings of me

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01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: um and the podcast ideas, it's I don't know, what

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01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 1: do you think that those can be surpassed with with imagination?

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01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: And don't know. I am drunk both on white Claw

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: and on contests. How many Clementine white clause have you

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01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: had today? Now? More than three? Less than five? All right?

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01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: I just want to tell the listeners that is it

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01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: is not yet five o'clock here because we had four.

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01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: Uh there're seventy calories. Man, there's zero sugar. They're gluten free,

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01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: only a hint of clementine flavor. So yeah, Well, I'm

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: about to make a trip to the local co op,

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01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: trying to support local grocers at this time. Wish me luck,

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01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: maybe i'll uh don't. They probably don't sell white cloth

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01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: the co op. I don't know. Maybe absolutely they do.

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01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: That's one of my white Claw dispensaries. Absolutely, Okay, white

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01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: Cloud dispensary. I like it. He'll find it there. They'll

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01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: happily sell you some claw. Don't worry. Don't worry, And

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01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: I would expect you to be four deep by four

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01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow. Uh, because it's a Saturday. So good luck,

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: good luck to you this weekend. Phil, don't thank you.

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01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we should talk. I think we should

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01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: have a We should quarantine ourselves from each other. That's

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01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,839
Speaker 1: a I've never heard a better idea. Can't wait. That's perfect,

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01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: that's perfect. I feel the love coming from you and

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01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: coming from all you listeners. You have a good fucking weekend.

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01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining the Quarantine Cast. We will see you Monday.

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01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: Bye bye bye. The Hunting Collective with Ben O'Brien is

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01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: a part of the Meat Eater podcast network. It is

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: produced by Kringe Schneider and engineered by Phil Taylor. You

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01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: can find it on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify, the meat eater

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