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Speaker 4: in about twenty minutes from now. Lots to discuss as

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Speaker 4: far as some of the missed calls, some of the

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Speaker 4: decisions made by the officiating crews across the land. In

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Speaker 4: the NFL this weekend, several people unhappy with some of

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Speaker 4: the calls in the Lions Bucks game. You also had

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Speaker 4: the Texans and Seahawks interesting moment where Jackson Smith and

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Speaker 4: Jigba on an interception from Sam Darnold got his helmet

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Speaker 4: ripped off by Stingley and then was on the bench

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Speaker 4: with no helmet on, and an official at least stepped

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Speaker 4: over to cover him so nobody could get to Jackson

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Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba. So at least they got that right,

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Speaker 4: you know, they were protecting him so he didn't get

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Speaker 3: So that was good for them. But the Houston Techson's.

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Speaker 2: That ain't good there.

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Speaker 4: Well, but here's then their defense is good, so there's that.

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Speaker 4: It's just offensively it's a problems, just a problem. So

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Speaker 4: we were talking about Bryce Young and you know, the

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Speaker 4: after one year, the thought was, man Bryce Young in

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Speaker 4: comparison to c J. Stroud, And now you're just sort

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Speaker 4: Also of note, Mike Evans in the game last night,

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Speaker 4: come to an end with a broken clavicle. So I

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Speaker 4: felt like this year was a little and that actually

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Speaker 4: already hinting at the idea that this was going to

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Speaker 4: on after this based on the toll it's taken on

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Speaker 4: his body. And so if that's the case, we could

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Speaker 4: have seen the end of Mike Evans' career last night.

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Speaker 4: And it's been a damn good one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surely not going to kill off the

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm not gonna pull a Jonah Knocks on this one.

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Speaker 3: He was already hinting at that that this would be

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be the one that like it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it was the first to call it, so is Chris Over.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not like that look at me. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's other people the network on me. Jamir Gibbs was

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Speaker 2: Like there's a couple out there. We had bijon not

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Speaker 2: too you know long before on uh on Sunday Night

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Speaker 2: football right on Sunday Night. Yeah, it's just very very

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Speaker 2: When did Atlanta play this week? Didn't they play on

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Speaker 2: I thought they played Sunday night Sunday night against the Niners,

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Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs is just he's I mean, he's in that

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Speaker 2: There's like different things that make you excited to watch.

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Speaker 2: they're just defensing him. But better boys coming going all in. No,

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Speaker 2: I really as he's anti Penn State. It's all right,

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Speaker 2: it's not true. You didn't say anything.

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Speaker 4: You ain't say anything about Michael Parsons is uh. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I'm just said multiple sacks. There you go, multiple he did,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying two pro sitting down, you know, doing radio. No.

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Speaker 4: I brought up Michael Parsons a vampire yesterday. I brought

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Speaker 2: Is his hobby. Oh, come on, man, like he needed

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Speaker 2: walking like close to death. Like he could get hungry

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Speaker 2: dude really is something different and cute. Then he turned

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Speaker 2: And it startled me, like it started the s startled me.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie like that's not even a bit.

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Speaker 2: When you turned around and looked at me and noticed

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Speaker 2: it was me, I was like I was. I turned

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Speaker 2: You know how you try to look away quick when

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Speaker 2: tried to look away like act like I didn't see.

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Speaker 3: You remove your eyes quickly.

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Speaker 2: He had already seen me though. It's like you know

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Speaker 2: how the in the movie is like did he see

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Speaker 3: Do you keep garlic in your pocket? I mean when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is hey Hey, Jonas decides to

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Speaker 2: go the wrong direction. Burn your ass right on.

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Speaker 4: Up, bro by the way, Brady, Uh, A little like housekeeping.

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Speaker 4: Here there's a bear and two cubs.

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Speaker 2: Bear studio, Yeah, right here.

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Speaker 4: And so they're like, there's cops around looking for these

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Speaker 1: Didn't Lord, didn't you like pull up and there's one

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Speaker 2: I used to live. Yeah, wait, were you in the

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Speaker 2: car though? No? That that. I came walking out to

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Speaker 2: the beer. Of course, you know when we're we're coming

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Speaker 2: into work there, you know, they come out at him,

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Speaker 2: fires and bears, Yeah, knocked down the trash and drug addicts.

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Speaker 2: I came out and he was moving the trash can

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh s bear lifted up his shirt.

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Speaker 4: He's like, we got problem.

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Speaker 2: We got a problem, homie, we got a problem.

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Speaker 2: He was big, head was big, he was big. I

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Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, you could go ahead and

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Speaker 2: to disturb you, don't you know. The bear laid down

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Speaker 2: on his back. He must have had some I don't

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Speaker 2: but after he saw me, after he saw me, he

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Speaker 2: laid down. Well, no, no, he walked across the street

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Speaker 2: first like like I'm gonna go over here, like I

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Speaker 2: But then he walked over to the neighbor's yard, knocked

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Speaker 2: already been full, laid down, went to sleep right there,

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Speaker 2: and he dropped the deuce right in front of the

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Speaker 2: beer deuce is crazy. That joint is crazy. Dog, what

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Speaker 2: just a big old flop flop flop flop flop pile

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Speaker 2: up bro right there, right there? Who's going to scoop

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Speaker 2: that up? What pooper scooper are you using for that? One?

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Speaker 3: Need a wheelbarrel?

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Speaker 2: Apparently all I had to do was just throw it

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Speaker 2: in the uh in the trash can? Well yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean apparently I don't need to flush it. I just

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Speaker 2: need to Although I don't want that. That was like

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Speaker 2: Andre the giant dip right there. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: that was going to work in a regular commode. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you know some some cultures that's that's accepted.

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Speaker 4: Some rest say they do that there, so that's that's

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Speaker 2: But that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Had Arizona winning the division.

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Speaker 4: If you, okay, watch that game last night. The defense

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Speaker 2: Yeah I had them last. Jeez. Good for I did

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Speaker 4: Season, great Rockets, Thunder, Warriors, Lakers. Awesome, it's returning to NBC.

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Speaker 4: They've actually I heard that. You guys remember the old

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight Tesh Yeah, round Ball Rock. But the

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the being.

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Speaker 4: the nineteen ninety eight NBA Finals. I think it's Jazz

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Speaker 4: that whoever was calling the game? No, there's a voiceover

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Speaker 2: what's his last name? Nuts? Damn?

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Speaker 3: Walk right into it again, Hey when that happened?

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is interesting. Well, I'm curious to hear it now. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think this is.

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Speaker 3: I think it's under beyond winning another title. The world's

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Speaker 2: Athlete has one goal coup to keep his team.

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Speaker 4: You might need an iron mass. You might need to

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Speaker 4: move it forward, all right, you move it forward.

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Speaker 2: Music is from the Man and the guys, and the

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Speaker 2: guy's going to be like Leonardo DiCaprio featuring the Chicago

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Speaker 3: They it'll probably come up after this. What you sound told?

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Speaker 2: All right? Let's see. Yes, let's hear it.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're here.

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Speaker 4: What we gotta find this guy?

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Speaker 2: No way? Jonas telling you.

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Speaker 3: N this guy on nb remember this guy?

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Speaker 5: Remember the New.

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Speaker 6: York Knicks versus the Chicago Boots.

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Speaker 2: You're a weirdo.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well here's the here's the point that guy.

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Speaker 3: When is that guy's dead?

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Speaker 4: But they're using AI to recreate his voice for the

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Speaker 2: Can you do that? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Jim Fagan. Yeah, no longer with us?

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Speaker 2: And what movie is that from the guy? What are

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Speaker 3: Jonas bred just set in my ears. Jim Fagan, he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did great work, Jim doesn't feel sounded pretty corny

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, we would hang out. All

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: The NBA is back at NBC. I know we made

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Speaker 1: You guys all all right? Plus money. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: We'll see, well, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: We're going to see what's going on in the end

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Speaker 4: NFL when it comes to Dean Blandino and some of

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Speaker 4: the officiating. Right, So, Dean Blandino speaking of speaking some passion,

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Speaker 4: all right, The Godfather music is waiting. It is ready

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Speaker 4: for the arrival of Dean Blandino, and he's yours. Next

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Speaker 4: By the way, coming up here in about twenty minutes

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Speaker 4: But right now, Tela, you have a talk. Bring them

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Speaker 4: in with Dean Blandino, Fox Sports. Hey, bring Dane in

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Speaker 2: Bring them in.

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Speaker 3: You get them on X if you dare to at

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Speaker 3: Dean Blandino. Hey, hey, hey, bring them in Dean. Good morning.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 5: How excited? How excited you guys can't when you hear

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Speaker 1: that you have for New York to overturn all but

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Speaker 1: they're still taking into consideration the call that was on

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Speaker 1: the field, right, They're not reofficiating the play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the standard. That's been the guiding principle,

442
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Speaker 5: that you're not reofficiating the play, going, Okay, what do

443
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Speaker 5: we think it's the ruling on the field is this,

444
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Speaker 5: and we need to see something clear that jumps out

445
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Speaker 5: that says it's not that and it needs to be changed.

446
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Speaker 5: And that was. You know, if I had to reofficiate

447
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Speaker 5: the play, i'd probably lean interception. But they ruled it

448
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Speaker 5: to catch otton right, I've had his hands on it.

449
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Speaker 5: I mean they were both fighting for it. The tie

450
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Speaker 5: goes to the receiver. I didn't think it was necessarily

451
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Speaker 5: it's a simultaneous catch, but it certainly was close. And

452
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Speaker 5: I didn't see enough to overturn that. And that's one

453
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Speaker 5: of those deals where and I learned that the hard

454
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Speaker 5: way in my own experience making decisions is I don't

455
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Speaker 5: have to just convince myself. The burden of proof is Okay.

456
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Speaker 5: I can show this video to one hundred people and

457
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Speaker 5: they would go, oh, yeah, absolutely, look I see it. Yep,

458
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Speaker 5: clearly that's an interception, and I just didn't think that

459
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Speaker 5: was the case.

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Speaker 1: So I guess just to follow up on that, then,

461
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Speaker 1: how do they make that call, like like and explain

462
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Speaker 1: to me simultaneous possession. Then my understanding of that is,

463
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Speaker 1: like if both players go up for it kind of

464
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Speaker 1: like they did that, it really just has to be

465
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Speaker 1: both of them have possession of it as they go

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Speaker 1: to the ground as the place stops.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, something's possession has to be and it's

468
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Speaker 5: rare that you should but everything has to happen at

469
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Speaker 5: the same exact time. Like both players get control at

470
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Speaker 5: the same time. They both have to maintain that control

471
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Speaker 5: if one player loses it, even for split second, right,

472
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Speaker 5: so they have to make exact same time get control.

473
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Speaker 5: They both have to maintain that control all the way

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Speaker 5: to the end of in that instance, them going to

475
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Speaker 5: the ground. Most of the time it's kind of the

476
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Speaker 5: you know, because it's so hard at full speed, officials

477
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Speaker 5: are going to you know, survival of the fittest and

478
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Speaker 5: who ends up with it. That's typically what they're going

479
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Speaker 5: to rule, unless they you know, they saw something, you

480
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Speaker 5: know different. But so so that's that simultaneous possession. Like

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Speaker 5: I said, you can make a case that maybe that

482
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Speaker 5: was it, but again this I think whoever's making that

483
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Speaker 5: decision is using a I think standard versus what I

484
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Speaker 5: can actually prove standard and it's not an I think standard,

485
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Speaker 5: and I think that's what's happening in some of the instances.

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Speaker 2: System Dan Baker Mayfield had some strong criticisms coming the

487
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Speaker 2: way of the officials. It made me wonder, like, you know,

488
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Speaker 2: guys immediately get get fine, whether it's a coach, whether

489
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Speaker 2: it's a player, and doing so, like what what does

490
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Speaker 2: that like? You know, where did that come from? What

491
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Speaker 2: does that achieve? Like you you can you could probably

492
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Speaker 2: criticize another coach, get away with it. You could criticize

493
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Speaker 2: another player from the other team, get away with it.

494
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Speaker 2: But if you say everything about officials, it's like you're

495
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Speaker 2: going to get a real stiff penalty coming your way

496
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Speaker 2: based off of that. Why was that established? Was it

497
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Speaker 2: just you know, based upon don't question the calls, just

498
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Speaker 2: just deal with it, like we're do you have an

499
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Speaker 2: idea where that even came from? The whole finding asct of.

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Speaker 5: This, Well, you know, it goes back before my time.

501
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Speaker 5: But I think that's pretty it's standard, and that's across

502
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Speaker 5: all sports, and I get it. I get it to

503
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Speaker 5: some extent where you want to maintain the credibility of

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Speaker 5: your officials. You don't want players to just be able

505
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Speaker 5: to coach it or whatever, to just be able to

506
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Speaker 5: say whatever they want, because because I think that that

507
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Speaker 5: you can take it too far. I do think that

508
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Speaker 5: we've you know, it's you guys know it's better than me.

509
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Speaker 5: It's an emotional game at that level, especially Big is

510
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Speaker 5: coming off a tough loss. There weren't look, there was

511
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Speaker 5: you know, there was a tripping call. They missed on

512
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Speaker 5: a big you know, it's a big drive at the

513
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: end of the game, should have been a first down.

514
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 5: He's frustrated and he speaks his mind, and yeah, they'll

515
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Speaker 5: probably will be a fine because that's the policy.

516
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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 5: You know, I do think that there's a way, you know,

518
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Speaker 5: I don't think the league should every time somebody mentioned officiating.

519
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: I think you can. You can do it thoughtfully and

520
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 5: do it without being you know, disrespectful. It's just it's

521
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: a tough deal. And uh, you know, I would imagine

522
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Speaker 5: they're gonna they're probably gonna find them.

523
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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 5: They suspended Drake Greenlaw for for going after the official

525
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: after the game in Denver, which was crazy, which no

526
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 5: one even knew about until yesterday, and they announced it

527
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Speaker 5: and then the videos are popping up on social media.

528
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Speaker 5: So I get protecting the officials and protecting their credibility,

529
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Speaker 5: but also on the other side, and I lived this,

530
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: the league goes too far in terms of isolating and

531
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: insulating the officiating and not being transparent. And that's a

532
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 5: problem because and then people are going to be like,

533
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 5: you know, what is going on? And then you get

534
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 5: the conspiracy theories and get all the other stuff that

535
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Speaker 5: we see.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He is Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,

538
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Speaker 4: Fox Sports NFL college football rules analysts with us here

539
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Speaker 4: on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. So one

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Speaker 4: of the things that you mentioned this and kind of

541
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Speaker 4: alluded to it was is there enough to overturn it?

542
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Speaker 4: And I think that's a really fair way to look

543
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 4: at some of these close calls. Whether you're watching, you know,

544
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: major League Baseball, and there's a play at second base

545
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 4: or a play at the plate, it's like, yeah, but

546
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Speaker 4: is there enough there to overturn it? Even if it

547
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: looks slightly like you could, is there enough there? And

548
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Speaker 4: I say all that to say this, what did they

549
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: see in the TJ. Hawkinson catch and then no catch

550
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Speaker 4: that made them overturn that call because I cannot find

551
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Speaker 4: any angle anywhere where it looks like there was enough

552
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: there to overturn a touchdown catch to an incomplete pass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and I was we were watching the

554
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Speaker 5: game before, we were watching red zone before our our

555
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: game in Dallas and watching that play, and it was

556
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Speaker 5: and we all said, look, we're up in the booth froom,

557
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 5: like that's too close, you know, it did my I

558
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 5: think what they saw was Hoginson's going to the ground.

559
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 5: As he hits the ground, he kind of starts to

560
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 5: roll over and the ball touches the ground, and then

561
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: they ruled that it came loose at that point he

562
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Speaker 5: still has to hold on to it when he hits

563
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Speaker 5: the ground. I just thought that was another one.

564
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Speaker 9: And again it's like, is the evidence, you know, eighty

565
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Speaker 9: five percent, ninety percent, even ninety nine point nine percent,

566
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Speaker 9: it's got to be one hundred percent.

567
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Speaker 5: And so to me, that was just one of those

568
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Speaker 5: where if everybody is questioning why why why, then how

569
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Speaker 5: can it be clear and obvious? Right? And unless it's

570
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: just a rule thing that people don't understand, but that

571
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 5: wasn't the case. And again, it's just that's and obviously

572
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Speaker 5: you know he was frustrated, and rightfully so. But and

573
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Speaker 5: I've made those I've lived that when I early in

574
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Speaker 5: my career, where I could convince myself of something and

575
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Speaker 5: then I try to explain it to people, I go, Man,

576
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Speaker 5: I'm explaining this for ten minutes. How does that jump

577
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 5: out player? And obvious it just isn't. And I think

578
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Speaker 5: that's that's part of the issue right now.

579
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Speaker 2: All right, I've got one for you.

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Speaker 1: Because so much is made of the toush push and

581
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Speaker 1: the play everything else. What was interesting this week though,

582
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Speaker 1: is we saw Christian McCaffrey with that game sealing touchdown

583
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Speaker 1: VERSU Atlanta on Sunday night, Yeah, getting pulled into the

584
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Speaker 1: end zone. And so I guess my question is because

585
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Speaker 1: I think what was Terry McAuley came on later and

586
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: said that it should have been helping the runner, which

587
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Speaker 1: is illegal.

588
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Speaker 2: Like, so we can't we can push them, we can't

589
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Speaker 2: pull them.

590
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Speaker 1: I mean, at what point do we kind of just

591
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Speaker 1: draw the line, Like why are we able to keep

592
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Speaker 1: that rule in the playbook even though we can't officiate

593
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: the push or we couldn't so we changed it, but

594
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Speaker 1: we can officiate the poll like it just it's like

595
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Speaker 1: it's I should be all in or all out on

596
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Speaker 1: aiding the run.

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Speaker 2: Is that the easiest way we could do this?

598
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Speaker 5: Agree? This is all This goes back to like mid

599
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Speaker 5: two thousands when and it look it hasn't been called,

600
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Speaker 5: and it was like the fish was like, it's so tough.

601
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Speaker 5: You got a pile, who's you know? Are you pushing

602
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: the pile? Are you're pushing your teammate? Are you pushing

603
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: the runner? And so they got rid of the push language.

604
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: But but it's lift. If a runner is on the ground,

605
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Speaker 5: you come and lift him up off the ground, or

606
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Speaker 5: you pull him to gain additionally yards. That's still remained

607
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: a foul in the rule book. It hasn't been called

608
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Speaker 5: in the NFL since like ninety three or night I

609
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: don't even know. So it's it's something that, yes, it

610
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: is hard, but there are a lot of things out

611
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Speaker 5: there that are hard to or difficult to officiate. So

612
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Speaker 5: I don't think that's the reason. To me, it's just

613
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Speaker 5: put it in, you know, in terms of the all

614
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Speaker 5: the push to pull, all the aiding the runner, just

615
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Speaker 5: take it out with put the ru rulebook language in teach.

616
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Speaker 5: The officials call it a couple of times, and yeah,

617
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 5: you're gonna call that once at the goal line, and

618
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 5: now you go from a touchdown to you know whatever,

619
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Speaker 5: it is, second and goal at the twelve. That's that's

620
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 5: teams won't won't do it, and that's that's the hope

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Speaker 5: that they can get it done in the off season.

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Speaker 2: Dan, how many variations of the same type of calls?

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Speaker 2: Like do you get complaints on like weekly? Like is

624
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Speaker 2: it new variations or is it all the same? Like

625
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Speaker 2: how does it come your way in terms of questions

626
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Speaker 2: you're asked, because I mean, in theory, there can only

627
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Speaker 2: be so many things that could take place within the

628
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Speaker 2: parameters of the same right, Like do you do you

629
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Speaker 2: find yourself getting a wide array of a perspective on

630
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Speaker 2: how calls are being made and how officiating is taking

631
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Speaker 2: place or is it a is it a narrow like

632
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Speaker 2: is it a more narrow scope of these plays? Are

633
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Speaker 2: are jacked up? Or holding? Or pass interferencely? You know

634
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: stuff like that.

635
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: Well, I go back to when I was at the

636
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 5: league office and we'd get coaches questions and each team

637
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: could submit up to ten questions and you would get

638
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: it and you would go through it and the majority

639
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: of questions from clubs was about holding offensive holding, because

640
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: it is very subjective. There's you know, the old thing

641
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 5: you call holding on every play. I don't think that's true,

642
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: but there is an opportunity to call holding on every

643
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: play because offensive linemen use their hands and grab and

644
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: do different things, so that looked like holding. So offensive

645
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 5: holding was always the most frequent question I think as

646
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: an analyst and people that text me and ask questions,

647
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 5: I think past difference is always something, even offensive past difference.

648
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: I think that's something that people even and the officials.

649
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 5: It's the most missed call every year you do an analysis,

650
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: and the one the official struggle with most historically is

651
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 5: offensive past difference because it's so hard because it's the deef,

652
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: is a defender initiate, the contact, is the receiver running around,

653
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: is the receiver you know, is the receiver extending the arms?

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Speaker 5: All these to push off, all these different things, so

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Speaker 5: it is I get questions about everything, but typically when

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Speaker 5: my phone blows up, it's like usually the big stuff

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Speaker 5: that people are like, what the heck is going on?

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Speaker 5: Like last night with you know, the out and play

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Speaker 5: and then the challenge where they went back and looked

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Speaker 5: at it again, those types of things, but it does,

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Speaker 5: it does kind of. I get a lot. It's a

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Speaker 5: smortage sport.

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Speaker 4: He used the great Dean Blandino, Fox Sports NFL College

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Speaker 3: Him hunt at smortgage board tremendous is always. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day at day.

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Speaker 5: I'll leave you guys with a challenge for the rest

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Speaker 5: of your time on the air today. How many times

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Speaker 5: can you say schmortgage sport? Okay, mortgage.

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Speaker 4: Well, that is a challenge even saying it. Dean, we

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 3: There he is a great Dean. Blame Beto with us

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Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that's a word you're gonna stay away from.

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Speaker 3: Huh board schmorgasbord. Yeah, that's that feels like it's part

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Speaker 3: of that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Off the air.

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Speaker 5: Time to find out what's left Towns Incredibles.

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Speaker 2: Here's the left over all, Right, what do we got?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 10: I did a little more research after your last segment

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Speaker 10: about Jim Fagan.

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Speaker 3: Fagan, Yes, so we have his original version.

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Speaker 10: When we're going to compare the real one to the

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Speaker 10: AI version, and we're going to see if we can

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Speaker 10: tell the difference.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's our original.

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Speaker 6: Okay, here's the NBA on NBC, the NBA Final.

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Speaker 5: It's Game six.

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Speaker 10: Plastiakgoo, all right, that beauty from nineteen ninety eight original voice.

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Speaker 3: Now here's Ai.

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Speaker 2: The NBA on NBC is bad.

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Speaker 4: See you this October for the NBA season tip off,

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Speaker 4: because AI sounds better.

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Speaker 2: No, No, you know what it is. It's it's not human.

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Speaker 1: You don't hear like the I'm sure he smoked cigars

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Speaker 1: or smoked because you hear the gravel a little bit

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Speaker 1: in his voice.

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Speaker 2: It's just very clear. Yeah, it's like to clear.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't sound like human where there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of that. Not perfect, you know, it's clear.

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Speaker 2: It's a little jarring. Play the first one again, though

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Speaker 2: it's the NBA, NBC NBA.

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Speaker 10: I think obviously the levels are better in the newer

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Speaker 10: twenty twelve, twenty five version, more clear, because nineteen ninety

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Speaker 10: eight your audio is going to be a lot different

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Speaker 10: back then. I do want to play not what his

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Speaker 10: daughter had to say, more curious about how family found,

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Speaker 10: His daughter said, they are deeply grateful that NBC Sports

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Speaker 10: had the vision to honor our father's legacy in such

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Speaker 10: a meaningful way. He would be thrilled and proud to

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Speaker 10: be a part of this. It's been a true pleasure

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Speaker 10: working with NBC Sports on this project.

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Speaker 2: Working with them on this project. They're getting broke off

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Speaker 2: for Sorry, yeah you think so? Oh hell yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean a residual. I don't think it's going to be

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Speaker 2: broke off. Yeah I was remember that. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: knowing you what you mean money?

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Speaker 10: Maybe you got an.

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Speaker 2: I'm just talking about the tank nasty, the NBA breaking

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Speaker 2: her off for daddy voice, Daddy for your daddy voice.

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Speaker 3: Okay, al I saw this. It will kind of fun. Actually,

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Speaker 3: might want to participate.

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Speaker 10: Denver is hosting a thirty one mile run where the

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Speaker 10: racers have to want to billy consume Taco Bell.

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Speaker 3: They have to eat time.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, everybody vomiting on the street. That's ridiculous, run right,

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Speaker 2: you run?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thirty males Taco Bell doing thirty miles of running

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Speaker 2: and eating taco bell. God, you imagine how many never mass.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna have to wear diapers?

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Speaker 2: How would you do that? Yeah, that's bad, that's just.

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Speaker 3: No knock on Taco Bell.

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Speaker 10: If you had to pick one thing to eat, the

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Speaker 10: whole race. What would you choose off the Taco Bell menu.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Water, there you go, good one.

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Speaker 10: I like their little cinnamon bolt balls. They're so good

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Speaker 10: with the cream in the center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Way to end the show, Lorena,