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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Great to be back on the home turf

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Speaker 1: after spending a couple of days in Chicago. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. Hope you had a great week. Boys are

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Speaker 1: here ready to go all fired up. I keep telling Todd,

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Speaker 1: can't rest on our laurels. I might be going into

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Speaker 1: the Radio Hall of Fame. Full speed ahead, Todd, Day one.

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Speaker 1: It's a reset. I'm you know, I want to go

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Speaker 1: in twice to the Radio Hall of Fame. Didn't Dave

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Speaker 1: Dave Grohl go into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: He went in with Nirvana, then the Foo Fighters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So once I kick you guys to the curb and

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Speaker 1: then I start with my new show, then I could

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Speaker 1: go in. Yes, mclovn, Bruce Wedding twice, Springs, all these guys,

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Speaker 1: lou Reid went and twice. You've totally elgible again. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but you need to get us in next time. No,

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Speaker 1: because that's not going to happen, given the reaction at

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Speaker 1: the banquet when I introduced you guys and said I

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Speaker 1: couldn't have done it without the Danets who made radio

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Speaker 1: fun for me. It's the ultimate challenge. Oh yeah it is, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: justin the intern from some other show standing ovation. Yeah

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Speaker 1: with Charlemagne the God, I think you know his entire

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Speaker 1: crew got a standing ovation, you guys. Crickets all right,

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Speaker 1: poll question, Play the day, Stat of the day, all

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Speaker 1: of that forthcoming the Astros win last night, the Brave

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Speaker 1: still up three games to two. Tonight, Giants will be

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Speaker 1: at the Chiefs. As far as the NFL, last night,

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Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys yesterday with the great win in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: and here is their head coach, Mike McCarthy on their

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks performance. Cooper Rush. You know, I can't say enough

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Speaker 1: about you know, Cooper, you know, being ready number one

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Speaker 1: excellent job command of the offense. I thought Keellen did

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Speaker 1: a really good job just kind of taking what they're

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Speaker 1: giving us, and Cooper did a great, great job distributal football.

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Speaker 1: I can't say enough about our football team the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks. Excellent win for us tonight. We knew it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be tough coming in here, always is. And

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of our football team. Yeah he should be.

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Speaker 1: And Cooper Rush played well. You still think about the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. You got to win this game. You're at home.

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Speaker 1: Keep hearing about you know, Kirk d Cousins and all

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Speaker 1: these great stats. Win the game. They're an average team.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how good his performance is or was

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Speaker 1: step up. Big game at home, And even if Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott didn't play it was and they lost, it was

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Speaker 1: still the right decision. Think bigger picture here. This is

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Speaker 1: not about your ego. This is not hey, we got

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Speaker 1: to prove weekend in week out. This is a This

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Speaker 1: is a war of attrition. This is about survival. Look

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Speaker 1: at all the other teams with backup quarterbacks, Look at

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Speaker 1: all the teams with injuries. You know, we're halfway point

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Speaker 1: of the season. You've got to be ready to go

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Speaker 1: in December and January and hopefully February, not now. And

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Speaker 1: if you're going to hold him out, you made the

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Speaker 1: right decision, even if you didn't win that game. Saints

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Speaker 1: over the Bucks. We'll dive into that little bit further.

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Speaker 1: The Jets had their new quarterback. Who would have thought

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Speaker 1: it's a guy out of Western Kentucky, Mike White. Jets

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Speaker 1: over the Bengals, Steelers sneak by the Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had this message for us in the media,

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Speaker 1: within sports media world, it's going to be the world's

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Speaker 1: falling down, or we're gonna handle it within the building

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Speaker 1: and make the corrections we need to to execute. We

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Speaker 1: have a good enough team. It's just that we're kicking

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Speaker 1: ourselves in the foot right now, stubbing our toes and

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Speaker 1: just built one week at a time. That's why I

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Speaker 1: said we're gonna chip away. There's no big picture mindset,

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Speaker 1: and we gotta chip away one week at a time,

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Speaker 1: and we'll do just that. Why do you care what

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Speaker 1: we think, Baker, who cares or what we're going to think?

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Speaker 1: Just play football. That's it. The media has been all

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Speaker 1: over the Cleveland Browns. It is a favorite. Media loves

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Speaker 1: talking about the Cleveland Browns. It's been a great story,

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Speaker 1: should be a great team. You got injuries, but you

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Speaker 1: You win these games, you're at home, you win the game,

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Speaker 1: And here we are every week. We want to have

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Speaker 1: Well maybe you do, but I said at the time,

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Speaker 1: let's slow down. You know where we expect so much

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Speaker 1: down to earth. Tom Brady lost to Trevor Simeon yesterday.

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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame quarterback book. It's just that's the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's weekend and week out where you go, who is

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Speaker 1: this and what are they doing now? I don't think

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Speaker 1: But that's why they play every single week. That's why

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Speaker 1: we get surprised every single week. You have a standalone

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Speaker 1: one of those situations. The Kansas City Chiefs have to

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Speaker 1: pile on the points here. We can't win one of those,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty seven twenty three games, like you got

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Speaker 1: I mean that it's crazy, but this is what the

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Speaker 1: NFL is this season. You know when you think you know,

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Speaker 1: We always do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: What you saw that you liked you didn't like? George Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: roll Bama off Cincinnati. Cincinnati can't afford these if he wins.

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Speaker 1: keep you number two. Michigan State with a big statement

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Speaker 1: Forest is eight. No. You know when you look at

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Speaker 1: me see Georgia, Yeah, they're usually pretty good. Cincinnati. Then

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Speaker 1: UTSA United, Oh my god, that's Texas, San Antonio. They're

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Speaker 1: in the top twenty. They're sixteen at eight. No, Kentucky

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Speaker 1: This year? Hadn't been a great year. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there are any great teams. Somebody got to win

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Speaker 1: the Heisman, but man, you're just watching you go okay,

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Speaker 1: very little that you should be surprised about, either in

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Speaker 1: college or the NFL just feels like every week, which

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Speaker 1: starts to get a whole lot more predictable. Here coming

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Speaker 1: mentioned mclevean to have a poll question today, I believe

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Speaker 1: he's going to be armed and dangerous with that pole question.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we're reaching the halfway mark of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season and we've got some storylines already falling apart.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was the one quarterback everybody loved, and he's

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Speaker 1: still great. The Chargers come back down to earth. Bengals

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Speaker 1: lose to a guy named Mike White out of Western Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Not even drafted the only undefeated team. The Cardinals lose

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Speaker 1: look like the team to beat in the they fell

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Speaker 1: to Trevor Simeon, and it's another reminder of we assume

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Speaker 1: we know what's going on. We don't. It's a funny week,

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Speaker 1: and it'll be a funny week again next week. Teams

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Speaker 1: the best Sunday because they just did what they were

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Speaker 1: But I thought the Rams with that performance, and granted,

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Speaker 1: you expect the Rams to win, but you know we've

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Speaker 1: seen we expected the Bengals to win. Maybe you thought

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Speaker 1: I thought, man, that's a tough comment to make against

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Speaker 1: the Saints, because the Saints always have your number, at

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Speaker 1: least they have since Tom has been in Tampa. All right, mclovin,

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Speaker 1: what kind of poll question do you have? By the way,

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Speaker 1: Well we'll start with those Saints. Where do you turn

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Speaker 1: at quarterback? I'll give you four choices. You could shoot

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Speaker 1: them all down. Stay with Trevor Simeon out of Northwestern.

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Speaker 1: Start Taysom Hill when he's out of the concussion protocol

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Speaker 1: signed Cam Newton, which is one rumor that's out there

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Speaker 1: or commenced Drew Brees to get out of the middle. No,

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Speaker 1: why is not possible? No? No? No? Is it the hair.

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Speaker 1: Why can't he come back? Yeah, can't. That helmet would

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Speaker 1: You just can't. He played last year. I don't know

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, I think Sean Payton has to have a

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Speaker 1: talk with Sean Payton and just go. Can I continue

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Speaker 1: to win with Trevor Simeon or should I bring in

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Speaker 1: about Taysom Hill. I don't Taysom Hills or quarterback. He

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Speaker 1: last year in the regular season, and I think people

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Speaker 1: underrate the talent on the Saints. We get so fixated

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Speaker 1: on the quarterback. You know, I don't think people like

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Speaker 1: fully grasp how good the team around Drew Brees was

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Speaker 1: at the end of his career and how they were

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Speaker 1: sort of carrying him more than the other way around

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Speaker 1: at the end. You know, so now you can't see

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees coming back, right, I don't think so. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers maybe, but like like I don't think I

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Speaker 1: think you make your calls if you're Sean Payton. Now

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Speaker 1: you call Brees, you call Rivers. You see what shape

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Speaker 1: those guys are in because you still feel like you've

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Speaker 1: got a team capable of winning a championship. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this team has been knocking on the door for five

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Speaker 1: years now. You know, Brees are no Breeze. That's still

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Speaker 1: a roster full of guys who are in the prime

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Speaker 1: of their career. So I think, you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, you don't just stand pat. You turn over

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Speaker 1: every rock and see what you might be able to

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Speaker 1: find out there. Um, Philip Rivers, I mean, shoot, do

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Speaker 1: you take a swing at to Shaun Watson? Now? Well,

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Speaker 1: you you will get him because your cap situation sucks.

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Speaker 1: But they've always been able to solve that, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, they've always been able to find

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Speaker 1: a way. Do you take a while? Because that's the

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Speaker 1: other thing that that franchise has been willing to move

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Speaker 1: draft picks in the past for veteran players. They have

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Speaker 1: not been shy about doing that because they're so confident

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Speaker 1: in the ability to draft and develop. They don't they

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Speaker 1: feel like they don't need the surplus of picks the

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Speaker 1: other teams do, so they've been willing to give up

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Speaker 1: picks in the past. Um, you know, sort of like

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Speaker 1: the Rams are. So I mean, if you're them, do

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Speaker 1: you take a wild swing at to Shaun Watson now?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not suggesting it's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: but I think I think Sean will turn over every rock,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so whether it's making a phone calling

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Speaker 1: Watson or um you know, or calling Rivers and seeing, hey,

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Speaker 1: when your high school season is over, would you want

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Speaker 1: to come out Like I just think you have to though, Dan,

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Speaker 1: That's the thing is because it's to me, it's like,

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Speaker 1: just rattle off the names on that roster and how

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Speaker 1: many guys are right in the heart of the prime

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Speaker 1: of their careers. And you know your Camaras, you're Ryan

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Speaker 1: Ramschecks here, Cam Jordan's is on the back end, you know,

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Speaker 1: marsh On Latimore, Marcus Williams, m Damario Davis, like so

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Speaker 1: many guys that are right either in the heart of

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Speaker 1: the prime of their careers are on the back nine.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just feel like they've still got

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete at a really high level and

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Speaker 1: maybe this opens the door for them to do something

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Speaker 1: creative that they wouldn't have thought of. Head Jami's not

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Speaker 1: gone down. Talking to Albert Breer, the senior NFL reporter

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Speaker 1: lead strategist for The Monday Morning Quarterback. You can read

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Speaker 1: his column this morning. Cooper cup is having one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest seasons, the greatest start to a season for

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver in over fifty years. Why is he

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Speaker 1: not getting any credit, because I think most of the

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Speaker 1: people who go through that offense don't get credit. It

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Speaker 1: goes to McVeigh. And whether or not that's fair or not,

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Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I don't know, but you know,

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Speaker 1: like I you know, you look at the skill position

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Speaker 1: players who've gone through there, with the exception of Girly,

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Speaker 1: I think most of those guys have been seen as

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Speaker 1: sort of a creation of McVeigh. You know, Robert Woods.

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Speaker 1: I think the same way. And they clearly value both

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Speaker 1: those guys. Both those guys are making sixteen seventeen million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year, so it's not like they don't value them.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there's maybe a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a perception out there that skill position players who go

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Speaker 1: through there are to some degree a production, a product

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Speaker 1: of the system. And that's why I think people are

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Speaker 1: so excited to see what Matthew Stafford looks like in it,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you had Jared Goffoy was another guy

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Speaker 1: who was seen as the product of the system in

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Speaker 1: the last few years. So what happens when you put

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Speaker 1: like a true, like franchise type talent in there, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we've seen the results, So I think that's really

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Speaker 1: it is that, you know, Cooper Cup's never played anywhere else,

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Speaker 1: got Drap wasn't a first round pick, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I think part of you know, playing there is so

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Speaker 1: many people have had success, so many skill position players

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Speaker 1: have had success coming through that system, that now every

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Speaker 1: guy who does have that sort of success, no matter

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Speaker 1: how much they reward him or tell you what the money,

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Speaker 1: how much he means to them and everything else, like

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Speaker 1: everybody's sort of seen as a cog in the machine.

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is the first player in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: era with it. Lee mannis nine hundred receiving yards ten

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Speaker 1: touchdowns through his team's first eight games of a season.

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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty good stuff. Pretty good. Did the Jets find

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Speaker 1: their quarterback yesterday? It's weird, isn't it? How like they

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Speaker 1: put him in and Josh Johnson went in the middle

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Speaker 1: of that game and he looked okay too, like, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it like makes you raise some

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Speaker 1: questions about Zach Wilson and how ready he was to

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Speaker 1: play in the NFL, you know, because I think there

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Speaker 1: were some people that looked at that across the NFL

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Speaker 1: and said, is there like, like, has the staff done

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Speaker 1: enough was Zach Wilson, you know, and you have a

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Speaker 1: first time coordinator there, and they went through a tragedy

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Speaker 1: on their offensive staff over the summer, but they lost

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Speaker 1: the guy who was going to be like the most

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Speaker 1: experienced guy you know that on that staff lets on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. And so I think

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of people, you know, inside the

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Speaker 1: league that we're thinking, like, are they doing enough to

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Speaker 1: help Zach Wilson? And then you throw Mike White in there,

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Speaker 1: and my god, he looks competent, you know. And this

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Speaker 1: isn't just this week. He look competent when they throw

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Speaker 1: him in against the Patriots last week too. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's fair to ask some of

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Speaker 1: those questions. And I've heard some of those questions that

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Speaker 1: like Zach has a ways to go as far as

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Speaker 1: learning just how to run an NFL offense and how

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Speaker 1: to take house money, you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 1: not try to turn every play into a seventy yard touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're sort of seeing it now, and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's good for Zach Wilson to get to see

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Speaker 1: someone else running the offense, but yeah, I mean, Mike

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Speaker 1: Mike White makes I mean, you watched Mike White, It's like,

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Speaker 1: why did they trade for Joe Flacco. I was sort

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Speaker 1: of thinking that last week too, like like even after

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Speaker 1: the way he came in and like stabilize things against

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Speaker 1: the Pagriots when they were getting blown out, Like you

547
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Speaker 1: could see a little something there. And I think it

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Speaker 1: definitely carried over to this week where it's like, May

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't have thrown the draft pick a wife for

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. The Cowboys, I thought, made the right to

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Speaker 1: decision even if they had lost to the Vikings. That

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Speaker 1: you don't have, you know, Dak Prescott. I got to

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Speaker 1: look for the bigger picture here what happened last year,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you got a team that can compete

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. And you know Cooper Rush comes in

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Speaker 1: and I didn't miss him. But you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the bigger question I have is still about the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings Albert because if you have a good quarterback, you're

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Speaker 1: in no man's land. You need to have a great

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Speaker 1: quarterback or it feels like you start over. You got

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is a good quarterback. He's not great, not

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Speaker 1: a league, but it feels like they're just that's a

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Speaker 1: team stuck in neutra. Yeah, if I'm the I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess the analogy would be if you're the Welsh

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Speaker 1: right now, do you ask are with the forty five

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Speaker 1: one NBA team right? Like the team that's like just

567
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Speaker 1: good enough to never get the franchise player, you know,

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Speaker 1: that is just sort of stuck there and you're going

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Speaker 1: out in the first or second round every year, and

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Speaker 1: you're spending your wheels and they have like talent in

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Speaker 1: the roster. I actually think like the front office has

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Speaker 1: done a good job of kind of replenishing the talent

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Speaker 1: there and bringing in younger guys. You look at the

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Speaker 1: way they've like kind of swapped out guys like Stefan

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Speaker 1: Diggs is out. Then you know, Justin Jefferson comes in

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Speaker 1: in the backfield, they lose Adrian Peterson, he gets older,

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook comes in the way they've replaced some guys

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line, Derek sau has played pretty well

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Speaker 1: for them. You know, they've just sort of constantly been

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Speaker 1: able to, I guess, like replenish certain positions. And you wonder,

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Speaker 1: is that what's holding them back? Is the coaching what's

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Speaker 1: holding them back? Because you know, I love Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 1: as a coach, but they've sort of been in this spot,

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Speaker 1: like they've sort of been the same team since he

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Speaker 1: got there, right like up one year, down the next

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Speaker 1: that they sort of peeked out in two thou and

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Speaker 1: seventeen with Case Kingdom as a quarterback and going to

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Speaker 1: the NFC title Game. So yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: if they continue on this path and you were sitting

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Speaker 1: there at the end of the season and they're like

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Speaker 1: ten and seven or nine and eight and they either

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Speaker 1: just made the playoffs or they're just out, like, I

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Speaker 1: think it's fair to ask those questions, and look like

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Speaker 1: I think internally they've asked those questions too, because you know,

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Speaker 1: like Zimmer was sort of a sleeper name a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago as a guy who could wind up

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Speaker 1: out and he survived and got an extension, and then

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Speaker 1: they kicked the tires really hard on Justin Fields in

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Speaker 1: the spring to the point where if I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was who the Bears were trying to get in front

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Speaker 1: of to get fields, and so maybe they don't trade

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Speaker 1: down and maybe they wind up with Justin Fields if

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Speaker 1: he slips a couple more spots. I think those questions

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Speaker 1: have been asked internally, and yeah, you wonder if like

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Speaker 1: that doesn't lead to some change after this year. Things

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Speaker 1: don't change if they don't wind up like thirteen and four,

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Speaker 1: twelve and five or whatever. Like are you are they

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Speaker 1: just sitting there spinning their wheels. I'm I was really

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Speaker 1: surprised at this. You know, the Browns should have won

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Speaker 1: that game against the Steelers. I mean, you're hosting Steelers,

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Speaker 1: you know you should still win those games. But Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield had this to say after the game about the

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Speaker 1: media within sports media world, it's going to be the

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Speaker 1: world's falling down where we're gonna handle it within the

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Speaker 1: building and make the corrections we need to to execute.

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Speaker 1: We have a good enough team. It's just that we're

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Speaker 1: kicking ourselves in the foot right now, stubbing our toes

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Speaker 1: and just built one week at a time. That's what

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Speaker 1: I said. We're gonna chip away. There's no big picture mindset,

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Speaker 1: and we gotta chip away one week at a time,

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Speaker 1: and we'll do just that. Okay, for sure, you kick

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Speaker 1: yourself in the foot. I don't know unless it's one

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Speaker 1: foot kicks the other foot, but I think you shoot

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Speaker 1: yourself in the foot. But hey, yeah. Uh, why why

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Speaker 1: does he care about the media, Like because he always has.

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Speaker 1: That's part of the huge rabbit. I mean, it's part

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Speaker 1: of it's part of what it's part of what drives him. Right,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy he wants to Oklahoma too, Like

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Speaker 1: he had rabbit ears, Like I mean, like I don't

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Speaker 1: care if they needed my own water, but he like

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Speaker 1: that's what the flag was, right, that's the flag planning

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Speaker 1: was was having rabbit ears, right. Yeah. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: mean the media part of Browns. The media covers the

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Speaker 1: Browns far more than the Browns deserve. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, But like I don't like, yes, you're right,

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Speaker 1: because I think there's like that there's there's been that

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Speaker 1: circus element to it. Now it's like are they no

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Speaker 1: longer the circus? Because I think Kevin Stefanski and Andrew

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Speaker 1: Barry and those guys did an effective job of of

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Speaker 1: kind of calming it down. I think it. I think

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Speaker 1: there is a fair question asks he's starting to feel

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Speaker 1: it though, like I am now playing for my job,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he doesn't have a contract, and generally

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks who the first round quarterbacks historically, if you look

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Speaker 1: at it, the first round quarterbacks who go through three

646
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Speaker 1: years and then don't get a big extension like after

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Speaker 1: that third year just usually don't get that extension period there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know there's one case where the team waited

649
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Speaker 1: and then after a year four Andrew luck is the

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Speaker 1: one case which is where it was like that, which

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Speaker 1: is like, wait a year and we'll do it, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's very rare that a team doesn't make that

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Speaker 1: doesn't just give the guy the extension after the third year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's feeling it a little bit too,

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Speaker 1: and that now like a three and one start has

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Speaker 1: become four and four, and if they don't win the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty complete roster, right, so where

658
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Speaker 1: are they going to look to upgrade? And I think

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Speaker 1: the obvious thing would be, can we afford to have

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Speaker 1: this guy on our roster at forty to forty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year? That's a very real question, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so like I think Baker probably feels it a

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Speaker 1: little bit, feels that pressure a little bit, and he

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Speaker 1: knows that everybody's looking at him and pointing at him

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Speaker 1: and saying is he good enough? And yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question to ask, and I

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Speaker 1: think you know, if you gave Andrew Barry truth serum,

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Speaker 1: he would tell you, like right now, like for the

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Speaker 1: rest of this year, it's Baker Mayfield versus Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: It's Baker Mayfield versus Aaron Rodgers. It's Baker Mayfield versus

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. It's Baker Mayfield versus whoever might be out

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Speaker 1: there available for us in February and March, when we

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Speaker 1: have to make a decision on what we want to

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Speaker 1: do with the position going forward. I'll leave you with this,

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Speaker 1: these standalone games, everybody has an opinion the day after

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Speaker 1: Kansas City tonight, how important is to win this game

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Speaker 1: and win with style points. I don't think it's. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's funny is like people have said that style points,

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Speaker 1: like why isn't it look the way it used to?

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Speaker 1: I think like, if you talk to enough people in

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Speaker 1: the league, you even talk to people in that building,

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Speaker 1: what they'll tell you is they don't need the style points.

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Speaker 1: They need to do the routine stuff better, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: so they've got this completely reworked offensive line and that's

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Speaker 1: been a problem, no question. Orlando Brown going right to

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Speaker 1: left hasn't worked out quite the way that they hoped

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Speaker 1: it would. And when your left tackle isn't right, that

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Speaker 1: can create problems elsewhere, you know, But really, like, how

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Speaker 1: do you manage that? Okay, well, you can manage that

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Speaker 1: by running the ball effectively. They're not calling enough front

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Speaker 1: plays like Clyde Edwards Hilaire's hurt. I understand that, but

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Speaker 1: like that's one way to calm down the offensive line problem.

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Speaker 1: It's another way to calm down the offensive line problem

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Speaker 1: for Mahomes to take the easy money to to to

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Speaker 1: check the ball down, to throw the ball short so

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Speaker 1: he's not holding it as long so it doesn't expose

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Speaker 1: the issue. He's not doing that, you know, is Mahomes

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Speaker 1: playing too much like he did at Texas Tech? Like

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Speaker 1: are we seeing that guy who felt like he had

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Speaker 1: to take the team on his shoulders too much? And

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Speaker 1: he's not doing that, He's not doing the routine thing.

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Speaker 1: And then on defense, it's the two guys that you paid.

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Speaker 1: It's Frank Clark, and it's and it's and it's Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: Like are those guys coming anywhere close to what they're

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Speaker 1: getting paid. They've been banged up, they've been averaged when

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Speaker 1: they've been out there and not having those guys play

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Speaker 1: at the level that they play that the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years is exposed in ordinary back seven. So I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of this stuff is pretty simple. It's

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Speaker 1: on offense. Can they make the routine play right? Like,

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Speaker 1: can they make the routine play? Can they go to

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Speaker 1: people other than Travis Kelce or Tyreek Hill? And can

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Speaker 1: mahomes play like a more conservative game? And then defensively,

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Speaker 1: I mean the offense playing more conservatively would help the defense,

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Speaker 1: right because now you're maybe shortening the game a little bit,

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Speaker 1: which isn't their comfort zone. But maybe what you have

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Speaker 1: to do here can you get your best players on

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Speaker 1: defense playing better? To me, it's like it's like two

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Speaker 1: three four. If you talk to people in that building,

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Speaker 1: it's like two to three four. Very simple things, but

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Speaker 1: you can't say with any certainty that it's just going

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Speaker 1: to click and happen. Great to talk to you, so always,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Budd. All right, thanks for having me. Dan.

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Speaker 1: That's Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback. Why do I

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Speaker 1: feel like the Giants are going to lead tonight three

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Speaker 1: to nothing? I don't know why. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: the Giants will lead three to nothing and then lose,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight to nine or something. We'll take

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Speaker 1: a break. Our Play of the day is up next.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: This is the player the day. Check this out in

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Speaker 1: the shotguns makes the snap drop back looks like looks

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Speaker 1: last fires shot up in his craft. He's got it.

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Speaker 1: That's a jet touchdown Tyler Craft on alone, Mike White

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Speaker 1: finds him with a gullet head scar with three forty

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Speaker 1: five to go. Unbelievable. Jets Radio Network. White finished with

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Speaker 1: four hundred and five yards, joining Cam Newton's the only

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Speaker 1: quarterback since nineteen fifty to pass for four hundred plus

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Speaker 1: yards in their first career start. As you might expect,

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Speaker 1: the New York media has already moved on from Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Mike White is the future here, yes, PAULI, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is kind of a real situation. Let's say, hypothetically, Mike

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Speaker 1: White is something like a young quarterback who was bypassed

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Speaker 1: what was the Western Kentucky. Yeah, and the Jets have

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Speaker 1: him under contract is a backup, probably to the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. They would have to consider keeping him

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Speaker 1: on the roster, which means you'd have to pay him

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Speaker 1: a little bit to be a backup, which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't want to do. If you let him go,

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Speaker 1: he becomes really good somewhere else. People will remember that

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Speaker 1: New York forever. Yeah, but you already spent all of

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Speaker 1: this on Zach Wilson. I'm saying they're not in a

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Speaker 1: position where they could keep this guy if they thought,

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Speaker 1: let's say, in three weeks he has two more really

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Speaker 1: good games. Well, he's got a game Thursday Night against

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Speaker 1: Does it matter with Mike White? Who did the Jets

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Speaker 1: play Thursday night? Back row? Now? Cults? Oh the cold sets? Right? Oh,

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Speaker 1: mclevin's got his Andy Reid Halloween customer. I can't see

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Speaker 1: anything because I have the foggy visor on. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: looks good. It feels a little like popping champagne on January. Second, though,

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Speaker 1: I wear a costume. Now, well, they did wear the

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Speaker 1: costume on Friday in Chicago, but we weren't on TV. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's actually being on TV and trying to wear it

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Speaker 1: is much more difficult because I can't see by Mike

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Speaker 1: weekend on NBC Sports. Here is Mike White, the Jets quarterback,

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Speaker 1: on the game plan that his offensive coordinator head for

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Speaker 1: Mike came to me on Saturday and called me and

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Speaker 1: said he was gonna let it let it rip to

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Speaker 1: start the game because he thought that with a backup

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Speaker 1: getting his first start and they would be tightened not

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Speaker 1: let us run the ball. So I think that that

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Speaker 1: was awesome. We were able to soften them up, and

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Speaker 1: then we got our run game going and then screen game,

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Speaker 1: and when they were getting real soft, we check it

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Speaker 1: down and Michael Carter and Ty Johnson were making great

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Speaker 1: run out of the catch and so I think the

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Speaker 1: them off guard and we were able to execute the

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Speaker 1: offense from then on. That sounds like a leader to me.

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Speaker 1: Michael Lafleur, the offensive coordinator for the Jets. There, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: you know the New York media is just been jones

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Speaker 1: and for a decent quarterback with the Jets. No no

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Speaker 1: pun Yeah, yes, mclen. Does it feel a little like

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Speaker 1: Matt Flynn when he had that huge game for the

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Speaker 1: Sea for the past. If this was at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season and Mike White had this kind of performance,

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Speaker 1: then he might be able to turn it into what

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Speaker 1: Matt Flynn did. He got that contract with the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: But you know the worst thing that could happen is

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Speaker 1: Thursday night he doesn't play well. You know, you like

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Speaker 1: that mystery. You always want the mystery. M you know

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Speaker 1: he is he a franchise quarterback. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I do know that it was probably seven or eight

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Speaker 1: years ago where I think he had a tweet when

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Speaker 1: he said he was going to break Peyton Mannings record

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Speaker 1: or records. And I don't know if he was in

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Speaker 1: high school at the time, but he was basically saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hate to break it to you, but you're not going

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Speaker 1: to be holding those records. So he doesn't lack confidence.

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Speaker 1: And he had a good junior year at Western Kentucky

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Speaker 1: and then I think his coach left and I think

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Speaker 1: he kind of fell off the NFL map. Yeah, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike whitee tweeted in twenty thirteen, Peyton Manning, I hate

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Speaker 1: to break it to you, but I'm going to break

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Speaker 1: your record one day. He didn't specify which one. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: didn't Peyton have the most interceptions by a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It appears that White was referring to the NFL record

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Speaker 1: of fifty five touchdown at Manning had okay, okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: mclovin by way, random question that Tom Brady's on pace

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Speaker 1: to set the all time passing yardage record in seventeen games,

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Speaker 1: will pass Peyton Manning? Would that count? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we look at rushing records,

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Speaker 1: and you know, guys were setting the records at fourteen games,

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Speaker 1: now sixteen, now seventeen. Maybe the NFL recognize him. One

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Speaker 1: more riting we close that hour one. When you listen

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Speaker 1: to pro athletes talk about fitness, they're not always talking

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Speaker 1: about how much they can be sure, how much they

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Speaker 1: can squat. They always talk about getting sleep, getting rest.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to be learned from athletes. It's fall,

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Speaker 1: so all four pro sports are going on, and that

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Speaker 1: means seven nights a week. We have great games to

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Speaker 1: watch and we have to be on our a game,

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Speaker 1: which means quality sleep. If you want to sleep like

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