1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back. George Nori with you, Diane Tessman 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: with us with her work future humans and the UFOs. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: He's got a couple of websites linked up at Coast 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: to coastam dot com. They are earth Change Predictions dot 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: com and Team Travel Teamtimetravel dot com Team Timetravel dot com. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Couple of cases I wanted to talk with you about, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Diane and get your thoughts about it. The one that 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: changed doctor j. Allen Heineck's views of extraterrestrials or UFOs 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: was the Lonnie Zamora, the police officer from Socorral, New Mexico. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: That case where he saw what he thought was a 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: car tipped over ended up being a craft of some 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: type with a couple occupants who saw him, jumped in 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: the craft and it took off. What an incredible case. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Have you looked at that one, Hi? Yes, I've got 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: a mention of it, not in great detail in the 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: chapter for I Dougle and great detail on various landings 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: and Leonard Stringfield's crash retrieval report and so on. Lonnie 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 1: Zamora was April nineteen sixty four, he reported two small 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: humanoid beings standing next to a landed craft in Sacaro, 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: New Mexico, or outside I guess Sakarro. Since Zamorrow was 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: a well known and respected officer, his report helped to 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: legitimize ten years of prior UFO occupant sidings, which is 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: what you just said about Heineck. His report made headlines 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: nationally and internationally. Suddenly the it landed, and suddenly the 26 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: air was filled with a roar, and the officer saw 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: a flame descending in the southwestern sky, and he glimpsed 28 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: a shiny car size object which is about the size 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: of the tic tac actually on the ground one hundred 30 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: and fifty yards away. Near it stood two small figures, 31 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: closed and clothed in white coveralls. He lost sight of 32 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: the object and figures. He passed behind a hill, and 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: that he saw an egg shaped object standing on four legs. 34 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: It displayed a peculiar instignia on its side, something like 35 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: an arrow pointing vertically from a horizontal base to a 36 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: half council crown. I don't know what a half council 37 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: crown is exactly, but a crown. The two figures had disappeared. 38 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: The object was emitting an ominous war, and so zamore 39 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: A charged back to his car. He glanced over his 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: shoulder at one point, and it was now in the air, 41 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: heading toward a nearby canyon. And so Blue Brook investigators 42 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: found that Officers zamore I had a reputation for integrity. 43 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: They found landing marks on the desert floor. In the 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: middle of these marks was a burned area, apparently from 45 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: the exhaust. It was a great story. Yeah, it's one 46 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: that's kind of forgotten. Uh. And again here we had 47 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: especially I will say, back in nineteen fifty, in the 48 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties and seventies, it was almost entirely humanoids 49 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: or humans that were reported. I have a list here 50 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: I abbreviated it. It was much longer that Richard Hall 51 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: of Nightcap. He was the Mufron journal editor, and I 52 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: dated Richard. I was much younger. Would you guys talk 53 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: about when you went to dinner? That's what I wanted 54 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: to talk Yes, That's how Richard would talk about too. 55 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: He was very studious and meticulous, and I was very 56 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: young and not wild. But I actually I wanted him 57 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: to tell me his secrets. But the UFO information in 58 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: the basement of his house. Why should have you endorsed 59 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: our dating service, paranormal date dot com. You'd be great 60 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, he take me to meet his dad, 61 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, we've dated for a while anyway. His NYECAP 62 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: report from nineteen fifty four to nineteen sixty three is 63 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: just one humanoid after another, five small humanoid beings, one 64 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: being three foot tall, diving suit, helmet, large eyes, some 65 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: of them normal size human beings. And again I abbreviated 66 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: the list, but I've got a couple of pages of it. 67 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: Tall three tall beings with helmets visible in turret of 68 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: pot shaped craft and those I always say my abductions 69 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties were in the golden age of UFOs, say, 70 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: probably quite as frightening, and there was something different. I 71 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: speculate in the book that perhaps it was a different 72 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: phase of humans. Maybe I met those from two hundred 73 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: and fifty years instead of five million or something years ahead. 74 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know quite what the difference was, but something 75 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: kind of changed to where but you know, it could 76 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: be within human within current humans that changed because there 77 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of hysteria around abductions possibly, It just 78 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: kind of got to be a subject that was so 79 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: kind of polluted with not that people were wrong in 80 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: what they reported, but then of course when fake videos 81 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: and all and photoshop got going in all that really 82 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: made it difficult. But I was going to say regarding 83 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: um H Richard, he he was Leonard Stringfield's concidant. They 84 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: were friends and ud incredible work on these crash retrieval stories. 85 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Incredible work. And um I can't fodge that everything that 86 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: was reported to Leonard would have been the truth. But 87 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: I can vouch that both Richard and Leonard were not 88 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: liars or fools. They were both honest and committed and 89 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: did meticulous investigations. M Leonard would would interview UH military guards, 90 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: for instance, that had guarded crash saucers bodies UM bodies 91 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: from saucers that had crashed when they were transported to 92 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: UM Right Patterson for autopsy, and he would he would 93 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: interview the guard, a military man, and the next thing 94 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: you knew, he couldn't find the military man. Again. In 95 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: spite of all this, you still believe they're time travelers. 96 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Well even more so I do, because here's an example 97 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: of Leonard Stringso in each of the three crates he said, 98 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: the guards said were the recovered dead bodies of small 99 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: human noise. As he related this astonishing information, he pointed 100 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: vaguely to an area in Arizona. He says, this is 101 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: where it happened. Oh wait a minute here to get 102 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: to the I mean you and your book is very 103 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: thorough Diane, by the way, Yeah, yeah, you know. I 104 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: took the old cases on purpose, not necessarily classics, oh 105 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: because they're they're classic, and they're thoroughly as thoroughly as 106 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: we can investigate. They are investigated, and I wanted him 107 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: that way. Oh, here we go with front of his 108 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: um my informent, described appeared to be hastily prepared wooden 109 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: crates with little humanoids appearing to be four feet tall. 110 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: They were lying unshrouded on fabric. A number of air 111 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: police stood guard near the crates. He had a reasonably 112 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: good glance at them. He because that their heads were 113 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: disproportionately larger than their bodies, with skin that looked brown 114 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: under the hangar lights, and in one cases there was 115 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: fuzzy thin hair. In other cases they appeared to be hairless, 116 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: and the garden noticed in one case that one of 117 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: the bodies had an exceedingly muscular chest or the bumps 118 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: of a female breast, and later it was reported that 119 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: one of them was indeed a female. Leonard's informant also 120 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: said that the little humanoids, one of them was still alive. 121 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: Attempts to save its life were unsuccessful. Their uniforms were 122 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: burned onto their bodies. They were silver. The uniforms weren't damaged, 123 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: but they were stuck onto their bodies anyway, just really, 124 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:20,239 Speaker 1: And then he had autopsy reports too on atrophy genitals 125 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: and digestive track, thin, opaque, white skin, not pink skin, 126 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: dead white skin not but no color to the skin, 127 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: no muscles, and um, I have a expert in the 128 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: book who's been on your show, Doctor Mike Masters says, yeah, 129 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: he's got a chapter. This is simply the way we're going, 130 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: says Mike. Now I tend to think, you know, maybe 131 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: we had a nuclear war and our genome is damaged. 132 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we were out in space too long. I come 133 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: up with excuses for why they would be that way, 134 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: and he always says, well, according to evolutionary anthropology, this 135 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: is the way we would be going. But that would 136 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: indicate they came from quite a file in the future, 137 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: obviously not. What do you think of the abduction phenomenon, Diane? 138 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: You know there's so many people that we both know, 139 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: Travis Walton, of course, the Barney and Betty Hill's case 140 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: from the sixties. What do you think of all of 141 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: those things? I when I went through them again for 142 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: the book, I was amazed that every one of those, 143 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: Betty and Barney Hill, Betty Andreason, Travis Walton, Steve Boucher, 144 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: who is a friend. He's younger than the others there 145 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: as more recently. Did you have one too? I had two, 146 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: but I remembered one in him. I have always had 147 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: conscious of few conscious memories, but most of my details 148 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: came in regression. He hid not a regretted doctor Leo Sprinkle, okay, 149 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: whose remained a friend. He was your giant too in 150 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: the business. He was. He's eighty seven now he's still 151 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: going strong. He's still going. Yeah, he's still going. He 152 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: belongs to subscribes to my newsletter and writes me a 153 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: letter about once a month. UM. So all of those 154 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: were the small humanoids and um. An interesting thing with 155 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: small humanoids is that there's a little town called Toodeville Iowa. Um, 156 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: not far from here, and uh an old man came 157 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: into my y I live an Ioway. I never got 158 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: o god, I've started. Oh yeah, we're abouts An, Iowa. 159 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: Were you uh in the north central part right on 160 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: the Minnesota soda bording Okay up there. Oh it was 161 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: forty below when I did the last. Uh, it's snowing now. 162 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I was a sad blows it is it is um 163 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: back to these abduction cases. Yes, so an elderly gentleman 164 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: came in drove into my yard here looking for my 165 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: brother who was ten years older than me, who lived 166 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: in Arizona at the time. He's now deceased. And um, 167 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: he's had this man having to start talking about UFOs. 168 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: He probably had heard that I was wrote about them 169 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: or something. But he told me that in Toteville, Iowa, 170 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: in the same season and year. I figured out then 171 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: from what he said as my first abduction, two little men. 172 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,359 Speaker 1: This man's cousin was bailing hay in the field near Toteville, 173 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: and two little men landed in a saucer, got out 174 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: and with a vessel, got some water out of a 175 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: little stream, went back to their saucer and left again. 176 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: And his cousin. Um never told anybody from fair getting 177 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: laughed out of the community. But he told this elderly 178 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: this man who was now elderly, I told told him, 179 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: and the man told me. So that was a strange 180 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: confirmation that came fifty years or so a year it happened. Um. 181 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: And so anyway, there's some more little humanoids that being 182 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: I meant was normal size, um, unless he was shape shifting, 183 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: but I really don't think he was. What would get 184 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: you to change your views about the time traveler theory? 185 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: I guess if the if the ets landed and somehow 186 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: proved they were from a far distant planet, landed on 187 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: the where they could land on the flighthouse, which we 188 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: should have anywhere they landed, uh, I guess that would uh. 189 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they told Betty um A, Betty 190 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: and Barney Hill that they were from Zay to Reticulie. 191 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: That's right. And they had a map made up too, 192 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: that was made up. That was made up because yeah, 193 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: that proved not to be an accurate star map and 194 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: so h yeah, the leader. That was interesting because the 195 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: leader of the abduction team, Betty, seemed to he was 196 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: too friendly with her. I think they're told not to 197 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: be friendly, whether they're aliens or humans. Um, they're they're 198 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: told not to make friends, not to be no person 199 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: no personality. They're supposed to be pretty straight right, And 200 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that's of course military. I think that the future humans 201 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: are a military or military uni or brigades or maybe 202 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: quasi military. That's interesting even I don't know how good 203 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: or bad they are. If they're like the Federation and 204 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: start free. Well, do you think something happens in the 205 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: future with nukes because of their involvement coming back to 206 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: our air force bases and flying over those missile silos 207 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: and shutting them down. That's my guess that and I 208 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: think something happens have to do with them wanting DNA too, 209 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: that maybe they are damage from radiation, if not just 210 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: our carelessness. Maybe a nuclear war that hasn't happened yet. 211 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Maybe something I think violent happened in they're trying to 212 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: show us something. Yes, I agree. I wish they'd get 213 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: a little more involved, don't you. Yes, but maybe it's 214 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: up to us. Like the child has to learn to 215 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: tie your shoes, so it's up to us to figure 216 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: it out. Which I'm trying to tell the world and 217 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: then maybe disclosure. Well, this is maybe to complicate for 218 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: the time we've got him. The tic TACs were knew 219 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: that the military would be there because they did those 220 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: same maneuvers every year, right in front of them, right 221 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: in front of them, and they didn't run. They just 222 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: were there. Were they there to annoy the military or 223 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: were they doing something else or did they is it 224 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: a grip a disclosure? Good point, Diane, It's almost like 225 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: they wanted them to see them. Listen to more Coast 226 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and 227 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more