Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Greatest. Said, I wanted
Speaker 1: to say it with you the Greatest. Oh sorry, I
Speaker 1: was just trying to that's what week Week eight, Week nine,
Speaker 1: and Quarantine sounds like hosting a podcast with your husband.
Speaker 1: We're back in the laundry room. We experimented with our
Speaker 1: other podcast studios within the house. We tried my office.
Speaker 1: I think all of my memorabilia threw you off. No, no,
Speaker 1: I liked it in there a lot. We tried the
Speaker 1: room that just has a liquor car and the peloton.
Speaker 1: But we have a neighbor who decides to rev seven
Speaker 1: motorcycles just like them. I hate him so much. He's
Speaker 1: my number one Quarantine enemy. Um, but it would be
Speaker 1: great if we found it he listened. No, he doesn't. Um.
Speaker 1: But today we are so excited to welcome a dear
Speaker 1: friend who is also so cool and talented and also
Speaker 1: now a member of the I Heart Radio podcast family. Wow,
Speaker 1: we can all go to the Christmas party together. Um.
Speaker 1: We have written together on the SPS. He has a
Speaker 1: book called Kanye West. I thought it was twenty it's
Speaker 1: five hundred. Um creator of drop the mic and to
Speaker 1: to some maybe even to me. Most impressively, a writer
Speaker 1: on the first season of The Mass Singer, which revolutionized TV.
Speaker 1: Give it up for Jensen carp Oh. Hello, Hi, unless
Speaker 1: you guys know something about him owing me more money,
Speaker 1: it is technically three Okay, I'm sorry, I was and
Speaker 1: I thought it was five. Dress listen. I found an
Speaker 1: unauthorized revised version Jenson off the Black Market. Um, but
Speaker 1: how are you doing man? Thanks for joining us. I'm
Speaker 1: doing pretty good. But I do like the idea that
Speaker 1: I mean. The title is already very petty, but imagine
Speaker 1: how petty with you over to right a novel? Um,
Speaker 1: you're you're a new dad too? Yeah? Ten month old?
Speaker 1: Uh he is at His name is Adlert, a beautiful
Speaker 1: little boy. He looks looks like Marve Albert already. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: full head of hair, not like Women's Entree or anything. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we really were living the quarantine life a
Speaker 1: little before. He was born prematured, so we were in
Speaker 1: thenqueue for a month and he had a lung disorder.
Speaker 1: Very cool things. Uh, he worked it out. Everything is
Speaker 1: good now. But we we have been living like this already,
Speaker 1: so this is just sort of now everyone's down to
Speaker 1: our level. Yeah, I mean that's we had Sarah Tillan
Speaker 1: on the podcast a few weeks ago, and then I
Speaker 1: have some friends that are new moms and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a terrible time to be doing this, because
Speaker 1: this is kind of what maternity leave. Paternity leave ends
Speaker 1: up being. You're just in your house taking care of
Speaker 1: the little sweetie and he's doing well health wise. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing really good. He's thriving. He uh definitely doesn't
Speaker 1: have the fluid in the lungs is basically what he had,
Speaker 1: and now it's it's kind of all gotten gotten out.
Speaker 1: And it was just a really scary, you know, first
Speaker 1: few months. But um, you know, I think people like
Speaker 1: us have it pretty easy with ten month olds or
Speaker 1: younger or you know, once once I hit three, four
Speaker 1: or five, it's like you have to really entertain them.
Speaker 1: And like, right now I can just hand him a
Speaker 1: water bottle and you can like walk off for two hours. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have friends that have a six month old and
Speaker 1: a four year old. Yeah, every time I see her,
Speaker 1: she looks at the brink of a mental breakdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's we have we have friends who have twins
Speaker 1: that are like six or seven. They are two of
Speaker 1: the most calm minded people I've ever known in my life,
Speaker 1: and so chill, and they I've never gotten straight up.
Speaker 1: I can't believe schools not coming back texts like they
Speaker 1: actually are like fully breaking down in front of me.
Speaker 1: So I feel for them way way more than me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, my brother is he's divorced now and so
Speaker 1: he shares custody with his X and he has a daughter.
Speaker 1: He's in second grade, and he's like, we get like
Speaker 1: eight emails a day about assignments and I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: that's insane to me. Yeah, he's smart too, he's a lawyer,
Speaker 1: but he's still just like and he's doing it. But
Speaker 1: you don't want your kids to be stupid. But it
Speaker 1: does seem like a lot and you're not having to
Speaker 1: teach the child anything, so you're really lucked out. No, literally,
Speaker 1: we don't. We've ever even taught him a thing. If
Speaker 1: it's raining, we go, what's this? Yeah, that's great, Jensen.
Speaker 1: So we're honored to have you on. I also, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I told you because I need your
Speaker 1: podcast a couple of weeks ago. But it's your Your
Speaker 1: career has just always been so fascinating, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've admired it from afar just because like we know
Speaker 1: friends who are either you know, comedians or comedy writers.
Speaker 1: But you're like sort of all over the place in
Speaker 1: such a cool way like you've been. You know, you
Speaker 1: obviously wrote that book about you being a rapper when
Speaker 1: you're young. You're really for the sps. You creative dropped
Speaker 1: the mic, and you also own and I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you about this um or you founded gallery,
Speaker 1: which is I don't know, I don't know if you know.
Speaker 1: I'm just like such a big nostalgia fan and you know,
Speaker 1: love vintage everything and and just old eighties and nineties movies.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, just tell it. How what the
Speaker 1: hell did you want to do growing up? And how
Speaker 1: did all these things happen? I guess well, what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do is definitely something I never could have done,
Speaker 1: which is basically played baseball, which is what you know.
Speaker 1: I kind of went through life thinking could happen for me,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, wait, I'm super Jewish, that
Speaker 1: never happens. H Gabe Kapler. It's like all I have um,
Speaker 1: and so I was always a good rapper, and I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like battling was always my strength.
Speaker 1: And I was doing local battles and doing all sorts
Speaker 1: of you know, going to the House of Blues and
Speaker 1: participating in ciphers and stuff as a kid um and
Speaker 1: I had like a small brush which talked about in
Speaker 1: the book. I had a small brush with being signed
Speaker 1: with iced teas rhyme syndicate when I was in middle school.
Speaker 1: I know, very weird things happened to me rapping wise,
Speaker 1: and I figured that I could maybe do that for
Speaker 1: a living. But I was going to college for writing.
Speaker 1: I went to USC for communications in journalism with a
Speaker 1: focus on cinematic writing. And I kind of figured I'd
Speaker 1: do comedy. I'd start going up and I started to,
Speaker 1: you know, do the open mics and comedy store and
Speaker 1: things like that a college. And then I entered this
Speaker 1: radio contest in Los Angeles called roll Call, and it
Speaker 1: was where you battle three or four people a day.
Speaker 1: And I had already got a bit of a name
Speaker 1: battling at that point. And I won the contest for
Speaker 1: like forty six days or something that I know the
Speaker 1: winner before me had only one ten power one of six. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so like it wasn't like it wasn't like a rock
Speaker 1: station where they're like where it was like the real
Speaker 1: hip station. Yeah, it was. It was intense. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it was like we have some days you
Speaker 1: have competition, other days you wouldn't. And um, I it
Speaker 1: was before iPhones and iPods and before satellite radio, so
Speaker 1: people were really listening to terrestrial radio and we just
Speaker 1: like really, I mean, it captured sort of a weird
Speaker 1: moment in hip hop nersery here in l A. And
Speaker 1: as soon as I left, I went back to USC
Speaker 1: to do finals, and Jimmy Iving basically jumped in the
Speaker 1: middle of me in college and said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you a record deal for a million dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so Jimmy Jimmy signed me to inter Scope, and
Speaker 1: I recorded an album with Kanye and Black Eyed Peas
Speaker 1: and Red Man and Fabulous and all these different people.
Speaker 1: Lived this like crazy life for two years. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out for me, and then I kind of went
Speaker 1: back into my normal life. It's so interesting too, because
Speaker 1: you grew up in Calabasas I did well up in
Speaker 1: wood up in Woodland Hills, which is yeah, the ugly
Speaker 1: step son. Oh and really quick you brought up the gallery. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't even address it. I was just one of
Speaker 1: the things that was really cool to me too. Well,
Speaker 1: the gallery. I when I stopped wrapping, Um, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I wanted to do when I have this money,
Speaker 1: and my money manager was like, you can't just like
Speaker 1: buy blue rays or DVDs at the time, and wow,
Speaker 1: that's what c J does. So that's interesting that a
Speaker 1: money manager tells you not to do that. Well, I
Speaker 1: still do it, but but he he at the time,
Speaker 1: was like, you can't just do that. And so I
Speaker 1: started looking into businesses I was interested in. And I
Speaker 1: love art and always been a fan. Didn't know much
Speaker 1: about it, but I knew that my friends like Kanye
Speaker 1: at the time or d J a M who was
Speaker 1: making a lot of money at the time, like those
Speaker 1: guys were spending like, you know, five on sneakers and
Speaker 1: then you'd go to their house and they have like
Speaker 1: a ten dollar poster. And I felt like and I
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, from like bed bath and Beyond,
Speaker 1: and I was like, there's there's gotta be a middle
Speaker 1: ground here where it's still affordable, but it's as to you.
Speaker 1: And that's where Gallery Nice came up, and I opened
Speaker 1: up with my friend TEDD Cromwell, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's sort of pop culture and nostalgia inspired art I have.
Speaker 1: We have Jensen to blame for a lot of my
Speaker 1: current I don't want to blame him because he's very
Speaker 1: talented and cool, you know, but you. He maybe has
Speaker 1: enabled you, but you are You are the addict and
Speaker 1: he is the supplier. Um and so you grew up
Speaker 1: in l A and went to USC which now that
Speaker 1: degree must mean so much more to you given the
Speaker 1: things that have happened over the last year. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I just wonder if I'm sure you would have because
Speaker 1: c J and I are not from here and we
Speaker 1: wound up here. But like a boy like you growing
Speaker 1: up in St. Louis, Like, how would that have looked
Speaker 1: differently than a shot? I mean, you had you have
Speaker 1: head shots from when you were a kid that are
Speaker 1: so cute. And it's to me, growing up in a
Speaker 1: place where like you, we didn't know anything about show business,
Speaker 1: it's just so fascinating to me. Yeah, to a lot
Speaker 1: of people, and for good reason. I mean, I did
Speaker 1: not grow up with any connections. My father sold cars.
Speaker 1: My mother had a local kind of like advertising paper
Speaker 1: that she ran out of the house with like cue
Speaker 1: bonds and stuff in it. And neither of them had
Speaker 1: truly any connections. But then at my school, you know,
Speaker 1: you'd go you'd go to school and there be kids
Speaker 1: like I just realized Harry Nielsen's kid went to our
Speaker 1: school and I didn't even know, Like I didn't even
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he did. He was in my grade. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we had like no idea. So it wasn't like
Speaker 1: like my wife, for example, went to went to high
Speaker 1: school with me, and she was one of the famous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was super famous when she was at her high
Speaker 1: school and um, and like no one ever made a
Speaker 1: big deal out of it. It was like just sort
Speaker 1: of like, yes, she she was there, you know, And
Speaker 1: I think that it maybe it is sort of a
Speaker 1: Los Angeles thing, but I don't think anyone was like
Speaker 1: really freaking out, like Christina Riti came in visit. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Remember do you remember Gabby Hoffman. Okay, so
Speaker 1: Gabby Gabby went to our high school as well, and
Speaker 1: she wasn't like super famous yet, but she was a
Speaker 1: kid in the field of dreams and she was in
Speaker 1: now and then yeah, and she was doing stuff and
Speaker 1: she was in a Woody Allen movie while we were
Speaker 1: in high school, and like she was always hip and
Speaker 1: cool and whatever. And she had Christina Ricchie come visit
Speaker 1: our school one day, like she just came and hung
Speaker 1: out with her. And you would think that would like
Speaker 1: blow the school up. Yeah, but like no one even knew.
Speaker 1: Like if I bring it up to people, now, do
Speaker 1: you remember when Christina Reachi visit our school? And we'll
Speaker 1: be like, now, I don't remember that. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I mean we had a kid who used to take
Speaker 1: his shirt off and then that meant he was about
Speaker 1: to like fight someone and he was left to us
Speaker 1: Like that was but that's and like there were rumors
Speaker 1: that the FBI was investigating him and we were like, wow,
Speaker 1: he is famous, Um, but I don't think he very
Speaker 1: welcome be dead now. Um, But that was that was
Speaker 1: the level of fame. It's yeah, it's just it's it's
Speaker 1: so cool. But I get that it didn't seem strange
Speaker 1: to you at the time. Yeah, it seems stranger when
Speaker 1: I got to college because in college. People would ask
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and like the Menendez brothers went to
Speaker 1: my high school, you know, and so like you bring
Speaker 1: in like the movie Alpha Dogs basically about my high
Speaker 1: school and the high school next door, and so we
Speaker 1: like you bring that stuff up and people are like really,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't know if I've ever talked
Speaker 1: about this with anyone, Like it doesn't come up a
Speaker 1: lot when you're in it, but when we're out of it,
Speaker 1: you're like, I guess it's very odd. The val Victorian
Speaker 1: wasn't like Menendez boys just skimming over. Can I ask
Speaker 1: you did you go to one of the high schools
Speaker 1: where you walked outside to class? You mean like it
Speaker 1: was not enclosed? Correct, So like I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know this, but like California, these coast and in
Speaker 1: Midwest kids, like when when I watched movies like from
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, like just one of the guys
Speaker 1: and I see them walking outside during a school day,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how is this allowed? This is like science fiction?
Speaker 1: It is so cool. It's to me, it's like the
Speaker 1: number one. Like California, we only I think we only
Speaker 1: had one building that could have been used in a
Speaker 1: winter storm. On top of that, everything else was outdoors.
Speaker 1: And then it's so funny because like I have heard
Speaker 1: this before that not that specifically, but when I went
Speaker 1: to college and people would be like, oh, man, did
Speaker 1: you live near that amusement park at the beginning of
Speaker 1: step by Step, which is like so funny to me
Speaker 1: because like I never saw a step by Step, but
Speaker 1: obviously as soon as people brought it up, I went
Speaker 1: and looked it up, and like it's just the matter
Speaker 1: or not the matter one. It's just that magic Mountain ride,
Speaker 1: but they've superimposed it near the water, so like that
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. But it's like people have this weird TV
Speaker 1: movie thoughts about what it was like living here, and
Speaker 1: I was quite square, quite nerdy, um, and so I
Speaker 1: never like lived crazy life percent until maybe rap stuff started.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, before we get too off topic, I
Speaker 1: do get like going down this, like hearing about all
Speaker 1: of Jensen's career accomplishments does kind of tie into this topic, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean, and you ended up working with a
Speaker 1: lot of these people will probably mention, but today's topic
Speaker 1: or the greatest topic is the greatest post playing careers,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of we're going to keep it a a
Speaker 1: little bit open. But it's essentially people who in athletes
Speaker 1: who have sort of kept their business is going after
Speaker 1: they're sort of like prime playing, created a new business
Speaker 1: that made them famous in other ways. J and I
Speaker 1: were talking about this last night. I ended up picking
Speaker 1: people that did not like obviously there's commentators and there's
Speaker 1: coaches that were players and then went on to do
Speaker 1: great things as those professions. I think of those as
Speaker 1: almost too close. Like I ended up picking people that
Speaker 1: are in a completely different field of work and rose
Speaker 1: to prominence just as much as they were in their
Speaker 1: playing career. Okay, so that's what that was what I did,
Speaker 1: And I don't know. Yeah, Jensen, do you want to
Speaker 1: lead us off with your number three? Yeah? Mon, number
Speaker 1: three is I guess he's I think this is perfect
Speaker 1: because obviously, like you said, answering shack stuff like that
Speaker 1: seems pretty easy, and I don't. I don't think any
Speaker 1: of us are are. We're all a little obscure. So
Speaker 1: so I think my pick for number three is going
Speaker 1: to be Kevin Johnson. And that's purely because Kevin Johnson,
Speaker 1: like when he ran for office the first time, I
Speaker 1: think people were like that Kevin Johnson, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I don't think people thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna end up being the mayor of Sacraments UM. And
Speaker 1: I know that there's been like listen, I know his
Speaker 1: Wikipedia is filled with garbage as to what happened while
Speaker 1: he was governor UM. But you know, it was still
Speaker 1: kind of an amazing thing where you actually thought, oh
Speaker 1: my god, the sports guys you know, can actually run
Speaker 1: for office. Like that was kind of you know, obviously
Speaker 1: there were people like Bradley and stuff before him, but
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty awesome. And he was a
Speaker 1: big guy as far as like when I did a
Speaker 1: little bit of research for this, he was super into
Speaker 1: this program called Volunteer Sacramento, and he was very green
Speaker 1: and he actually did a decent amount of good stuff
Speaker 1: while he was in office and was reelected once, but
Speaker 1: then maybe ran into some issues with sexual assault and harassment. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe those things did. To me, that only makes him
Speaker 1: a legitimate politician, Like it's like, oh, yeah, you're a
Speaker 1: real politician. Okay. He was the first black mayor of
Speaker 1: Sacramento two and so that's a very impressive feet as well. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: a lot of issues involving you know, the pieing incident. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there was, there was a lot of things
Speaker 1: that happened. But beyond that, Kevin Johnson going from NBA
Speaker 1: basketball player and a good one, yeah, great, yeah, great
Speaker 1: one and then going into politics I thought was always
Speaker 1: a pretty interesting pivot. And I wonder if you know,
Speaker 1: we're watching the Last Dance like everyone else, and he
Speaker 1: is one of those guys that he that were in
Speaker 1: Jordan's tracks of like he prevented, you know, Kevin Johnson
Speaker 1: and Charles Barkley, and these guys are winning a championship
Speaker 1: that they weren't fulfilled from their playing career, and then
Speaker 1: they go that's interesting. Yeah, and you know that's just
Speaker 1: a theory of mind. They're like, well, I you know,
Speaker 1: there's no Michael Jordan my way of becoming the mayor
Speaker 1: of Sacramento, and so I'm really going to go for it. Thus,
Speaker 1: you know, and this happens. I could see that Barkley too,
Speaker 1: because Barkley is just so he he almost like ramped
Speaker 1: up after his playing career. Like everyone knows him. He's
Speaker 1: my favorite comedian. He's everywhere, and he's and he's so
Speaker 1: funny and he's so good on TV and then when
Speaker 1: you see him in the last dance, it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was so demoralizing that c G. I think you
Speaker 1: do have a good point that it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I couldn't win a ring, but I can win Mr. Congeniality,
Speaker 1: and he and him and Shack have very much gone
Speaker 1: on to do that, even though Shaq has rings too.
Speaker 1: I promised not to pick anyone else's sexual assault. It's
Speaker 1: totally fine. Well, I mean I was having this conversation
Speaker 1: when last night too, it's like this this top kind
Speaker 1: of bummed me out in a way because there's very
Speaker 1: few if and I struggled to find any woman who
Speaker 1: has been able to obviously Becky Hammond, and there's women
Speaker 1: that have been gone gone on to be incredible coaches.
Speaker 1: Christie Everett is like one of my favorite tennis commentators,
Speaker 1: but they're still in the sport. And I think some
Speaker 1: of that is just as a society, men are allowed
Speaker 1: to conquer and do lots of different things, and I
Speaker 1: think we are like, oh, Okay, a woman succeeded at this,
Speaker 1: great that's you get that. And then and then they
Speaker 1: either go on to raise families or or they that
Speaker 1: there they become activists. But there's very few women that
Speaker 1: that have been able to pivot into the careers that
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about, which are mostly politics, acting,
Speaker 1: and entrepreneurship. And we just don't allow the space for
Speaker 1: a woman to be successful in multiple fast sets publicly,
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately. Yeah, I mean hopefully that's changing over
Speaker 1: time with I mean, honestly, I just for my podcast,
Speaker 1: I just talked to Aaron Andrew's husband about, you know
Speaker 1: what it's like being a King's coach because he's like
Speaker 1: a developmental coach right now and he's just like sitting
Speaker 1: on his couch and Aaron Andrews is running like six
Speaker 1: seven businesses during the quarantine. So like that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff really stokes me out as far as like where
Speaker 1: we're going with it. But like you said, yes, I
Speaker 1: had to pick someone who has quite a tainted past
Speaker 1: when I looked at politics. Well, but like even calling
Speaker 1: him Aaron Andrew's husband, it's like that's a win, you
Speaker 1: know that progress. Okay, so my first one, this is
Speaker 1: gonna feel less obscure, but like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just love it so much. Is George Foreman. Yeah, obviously
Speaker 1: a boxer. But if when you hear George Foreman, now
Speaker 1: you really just think of the grills. And so I
Speaker 1: was doing a little bit of I truly thought he
Speaker 1: invented the grill. He did not um in the nineties
Speaker 1: he invented the grill. Just was like, I would like
Speaker 1: to cook on this grill. That's what I thought. That's
Speaker 1: not what happened. Basically, a company went to him and
Speaker 1: was like, would you our spokesperson, and then it was
Speaker 1: for a limited amount of time. I think it was
Speaker 1: like an event or one or two, and it was
Speaker 1: such a massive success that then they like re named
Speaker 1: the product after him, and he became the face of
Speaker 1: this and then did the infomercials. And I mean, George
Speaker 1: Foreman grills are in the cultural lexicon just when you
Speaker 1: think about like when I think about men I dated
Speaker 1: in college, or like it's it's that you walk in
Speaker 1: and you see someone as a George Foreman and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, or it's just to me, he is more
Speaker 1: successful as George Foreman grill than he is as George
Speaker 1: Foreman the boxer, right right. And also he was the
Speaker 1: second person they asked I remember this stat and maybe
Speaker 1: I almost i'd say, I'm so that's pretty eye up.
Speaker 1: I think Hogan was the first person they asked that
Speaker 1: would I don't know if it would have taken off
Speaker 1: in a weird way kind looking it up quick, yeah,
Speaker 1: would turned down the Foreman girl. Yeah, just whole Cogan. No,
Speaker 1: George Foreman is like he he has such a really
Speaker 1: wholesome face, like he is the kindest looking boxer. He
Speaker 1: truly looks like a little sweetie pie. And he's a
Speaker 1: truly perfect pitch man because of that, because he's likable,
Speaker 1: he was famous. I think him being black, then you're
Speaker 1: you're incorporating so many more people like he's he's the
Speaker 1: type of like black men that even racist or like
Speaker 1: I like him, you know, like he everybody likes him, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I I was watching him and I recommended
Speaker 1: this to to you, Megan when we were Kings and
Speaker 1: if you see that, and because I had known about
Speaker 1: the Former girl, and then I went back a few
Speaker 1: years later and watched when we were Kings the Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali documentar about Romeo the Jungle, and he's just such
Speaker 1: a stoic like they paint him essentially like drago and
Speaker 1: rocky and bare like says forwards the whole documentary. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's where Ali had to do the rope a
Speaker 1: dope on them to this what they're saying a machine
Speaker 1: and now you know, cut to what twenty years later
Speaker 1: and it was lean mean fighting machine, you know, diet grill.
Speaker 1: And it's just like so insane the timeline or that,
Speaker 1: you know what time can do to people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Mike Tyson isn't that far off if
Speaker 1: you told if you told a twelve year old right now,
Speaker 1: that Mike Tyson was literally the baddest human being who
Speaker 1: may have ever walked this space to the Earth, they'd
Speaker 1: be like, you're kidding, Yeah, that the guy from Hangover.
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of what we do with
Speaker 1: a lot of boxers over time. Yeah all right. Uh
Speaker 1: so my pick it's if it's not great to your standards, Megan,
Speaker 1: because it's so connected. But I got a little inspired
Speaker 1: this morning because also this news came out that Tony
Speaker 1: Hawk Pro Skater the video game one and two are
Speaker 1: being remastered for the Xbox One, and so that's why
Speaker 1: my third pick is Tony Hawk. Yeah. I mean, but
Speaker 1: the skateboarding thing, but the thing is like these video
Speaker 1: games really were huge and are still huge, and I
Speaker 1: do have to say I get. I mean, I'm a
Speaker 1: hypocrite too. I love changing rules. Tony Hawk is the
Speaker 1: face of was the face of the X games. He
Speaker 1: brought skateboarding into the mainstream, and so for him you
Speaker 1: kind of have to make an exception to be crazy
Speaker 1: to then pivot fully out of that. It's like he
Speaker 1: is us skateboarding to me, yeah, and to me it's
Speaker 1: like he's not even the coolest skater. And for him
Speaker 1: to create this video game and there's just like this.
Speaker 1: There's a YouTube video where he describes how much money
Speaker 1: he made off these video games, which he didn't know
Speaker 1: how much he was gonna make going into it, or
Speaker 1: even like into the process. Like there's a story about
Speaker 1: how during the fourth video game, when it came out,
Speaker 1: someone at Activision or Never Software, whichever company it is,
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, can I take you out to lunch?
Speaker 1: And he's like sure, didn't know he was gonna get
Speaker 1: paid at this lunch. And the guy's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's your check for Tony pro Skater four and it
Speaker 1: was for four million dollars and he was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: just like can you imagine just getting an unexpected four
Speaker 1: million dollar check. And then I don't think Tony Larusa
Speaker 1: had the same lunch for Tony. Yeah, now I'm like
Speaker 1: where they go to lunch? Was it you know, was
Speaker 1: it lemonade or was it frank And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Um No, I think that that's a that's a good pick.
Speaker 1: And so since then there's been what eight I think
Speaker 1: there's this remastered version coming up, is gonna be the
Speaker 1: eighteen Tony Hawk pro Skater video game. Well, and then
Speaker 1: he had all the fashion Birdhouse. I remember his cribs
Speaker 1: is like when that sticks out to me too. I
Speaker 1: just remember all his little blonde children looking like they
Speaker 1: were about to break and their kids and his kid, Riley,
Speaker 1: I believe, is like like you would expect some of
Speaker 1: these like celebrity mega celebrity kids to be like assholes.
Speaker 1: And I mean I've watched a few videos about Riley
Speaker 1: really good skater uh and and really cool and done?
Speaker 1: How old is he? I think he's like, Okay, So
Speaker 1: sometimes I get concerned when you're watching videos of these
Speaker 1: young kids. Yeah, I was gonna say this is I
Speaker 1: can't I can't even imagine c J at hum being like,
Speaker 1: got to look up my young kids skateboard videos. He's
Speaker 1: just like, oh, Brawnie's and I'm like, you should not
Speaker 1: know where Brawny is. Okay, let's just let's leave Brawny
Speaker 1: alone a little bit. Okay, let's take the outbreak and
Speaker 1: we'll be back with our next pix. Okay, we are back,
Speaker 1: all right, Jensen, Yes, second pick. Well, this is a
Speaker 1: perfect segue into promoting my new podcast called The No
Speaker 1: Sports Report, part of the I Heart Family along with
Speaker 1: three fort Media. And what I do is I talked
Speaker 1: to athletes during the quarantine, uh, and I find out
Speaker 1: things about them, what they've been doing while sports is down.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of these guys, this is the longest
Speaker 1: they've ever went not playing the sport. It's crazy. So
Speaker 1: I've been able to speak to Gavin Lux and Sugar
Speaker 1: Ray Leonard and Bismack Biombo and a lot of great
Speaker 1: athletes over the last few weeks. But one that really
Speaker 1: sticks out with me is former NBA player Al Harrington, who, yes,
Speaker 1: who now runs a weed empire. He basically has a
Speaker 1: marijuana medicinal marijuana entire business that involves edibles and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, CBD and medicinal and he's he's part of
Speaker 1: a large group ownership. He's the head of it. But
Speaker 1: like even like um, other basketball players are involved in it,
Speaker 1: Sally yeah, and it's he he al. Harrington really does
Speaker 1: seem to be making millions of dollars off selling weed.
Speaker 1: And he came on the podcast and talked about, you
Speaker 1: know what it's doing for his small business, you know,
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and and then we talked about you know,
Speaker 1: marijuana in the NBA, and he was he was saying
Speaker 1: he thinks eighty to eighty five percent of players are
Speaker 1: currently using or recreationally used over the last two or
Speaker 1: three years. Um. And it's a big deal too because
Speaker 1: like guys like you know, he brought up Kobe, we
Speaker 1: brought up him. I mean, now, Harrington a great example
Speaker 1: of a guy who probably could have been a little
Speaker 1: better or played a little longer if their injuries were
Speaker 1: maintained a lot better in like a CBD way. Um.
Speaker 1: And so I I was always impressed in the idea
Speaker 1: that this guy retires, doesn't you know, do the normal route,
Speaker 1: and instead opens up an entire week business based off
Speaker 1: his grandmother who used marijuana when she was sick with
Speaker 1: cancer and so he saw that and then he became
Speaker 1: a bit of an advocate for it, and now it's
Speaker 1: his living. I think that's great. I I was just
Speaker 1: looking him up because I wanted to see what year
Speaker 1: he was drafted by the Pacers and him and I
Speaker 1: have the same birthday him so, and he was on
Speaker 1: the Pacers twice. And he's like the kind of guy
Speaker 1: that I always really liked, but he wasn't. He kind
Speaker 1: of under achieved and so it's at least with the Pacers,
Speaker 1: and so it's nice to see him taking on an
Speaker 1: industry that I really so near my heart. Yeah, by
Speaker 1: the way, looking at his numbers now, which I did
Speaker 1: in research for the podcast, he had a really good career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you don't think he did. And then we looked
Speaker 1: it up and I was like, in current day NBA,
Speaker 1: he would have been making like a ton of money. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why I always talk to people
Speaker 1: about sort of the business that I'm in. But like
Speaker 1: they just never covered up. He wasn't like a highlights guy,
Speaker 1: and so they weren't seeing him on Sports Center and
Speaker 1: they weren't like he was like the third like the
Speaker 1: not third like fifth option on these teams, so they
Speaker 1: weren't getting covered. But like he came off the bench
Speaker 1: pacers mostly. I mean he played for I think sixteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen seasons too, So he did have He did
Speaker 1: have a long career, and he's got a great argument
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, let me rub and put whatever
Speaker 1: I want in my body. Yeah, tons of injuries. The
Speaker 1: last two years he only played like forty five games
Speaker 1: or something like that. But his his career stats, he
Speaker 1: was at thirteen and a half points per game and
Speaker 1: over five a half rebounds per game over a career
Speaker 1: where he played with tons of injuries. Um, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, man, guys, got quite a strong contract. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm really happy for him and happy to hear that.
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing he lives in California. No, he he
Speaker 1: does not. I don't remember exactly where he lives. He
Speaker 1: does not live in California. No, but he obviously is
Speaker 1: here a lot, he said, because we smoke a lot
Speaker 1: of week his business. Uh, just so you know, I'm
Speaker 1: looking up his stats by season Atlanta, he obviously eighteen
Speaker 1: points a game, nineteen point two with the next he
Speaker 1: had quite a run there fourteen But but he did
Speaker 1: have his worst run with the Indiana Pacer, but earlier.
Speaker 1: I still love he was eighteen. I think he came
Speaker 1: out right out of high school. High school. Yea, he
Speaker 1: he always had a sweatband on. I liked him. He
Speaker 1: got a dude. Yeah, he's good. I'm happy to hear
Speaker 1: about him. Okay, So my next person, I honestly did
Speaker 1: not even know about this guy. And I feel horrified
Speaker 1: by that because I'm sure my parents are gonna listen
Speaker 1: to it and be like, yeah, we loved him. His
Speaker 1: name is Byron White. Is this ringing a belt to
Speaker 1: either of you? Okay? So he played college football, basketball,
Speaker 1: and baseball. He was the runner up in the Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy and then was drafted. Led the NFL in rushing
Speaker 1: yards in his rookie season, which was okay, So it
Speaker 1: was a long time ago, but then he was an
Speaker 1: incredible NFL player. Left at one point to attend Yale
Speaker 1: Law School and became a Supreme Court justice. Yes, he
Speaker 1: was nominated to the Supreme Court by JFK. Served on
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court for thirty two years as a Liberal
Speaker 1: judge and was a part of n C double a
Speaker 1: versus Board of Regions of the University of California, was
Speaker 1: on the court during Roe v. Wade. He is the
Speaker 1: twelfth longest Supreme Court justice to ever serve and then
Speaker 1: he was um succeeded by Ruth Bader Ginsburg. So he's incredible.
Speaker 1: I mean, this man. He was born in Colorado, went
Speaker 1: to University of Colorado, where he was a three sport athlete.
Speaker 1: Football was obviously his standout. But he served in World
Speaker 1: War Two. He was a part of the Navy. Like man,
Speaker 1: I mean he It was really tough too, because in
Speaker 1: the politics it feels like a lot of athletes become
Speaker 1: Republicans or at least like you know, like Kevin Johnson
Speaker 1: and Bill Bradley Field like kind of the only ones
Speaker 1: that didn't. And so this guy was a liberal judge
Speaker 1: and a JFK appointee and seems like such a wonderful man.
Speaker 1: His nickname was Whizzer, but he but he didn't like
Speaker 1: that name, so that's why I did not call him.
Speaker 1: But he is. Some people may know him as Whizzer
Speaker 1: White instead, who did um. He played for the Pittsburgh Pirates,
Speaker 1: which is not a team anymore. It was nineteen thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and so I guess that was a team, and then
Speaker 1: he played for the Detroit Lions in the nineteen one season,
Speaker 1: and then he went and fought in World War Two
Speaker 1: in the PACIFICO crazy. I was like, oh, I feel
Speaker 1: like I because this isn't someone that like I knew about.
Speaker 1: But when I read all this stuff, I was just like,
Speaker 1: this is so impressive and so interesting to me. And
Speaker 1: I love World War Two. I love old white men
Speaker 1: that have funny nicknames, and I love Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Speaker 1: So it's really everything. This has everything I want. Well
Speaker 1: and for me too, It's like CT is such a
Speaker 1: very real thing, and I bet you it maybe even
Speaker 1: worse back then technology with helmets and to then become,
Speaker 1: you know, and put be in that position seems insane
Speaker 1: to me, but ultimately very impressive. Yeah. Well it's also
Speaker 1: so funny too when you think about college sports back then,
Speaker 1: the fact that he could play three sports is that
Speaker 1: there's that does not exist now never. Um So I
Speaker 1: loved him, whizzer. I want to want to look more.
Speaker 1: He got a bronze star to two of them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: a little cutie and he is now pasture but but
Speaker 1: but yeah, rest in peace, but we love you. To talk.
Speaker 1: By the way, quite a roller coaster on my feelings
Speaker 1: about Wizard. I was totally totally into looking at what
Speaker 1: he's doing now and then that ending. Really yeah, it'd
Speaker 1: be too if I was like, oh, I guess it's
Speaker 1: not that impressive he died. I'm trying to pick the immortal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just so cool. He was like so he was
Speaker 1: four civil rights, he was pro women's choice, like, Wizzard,
Speaker 1: you're the dude, man, You're dude top back, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't talk that, you know, I had
Speaker 1: an obvious one for two, but I kind of want
Speaker 1: to swap out. I had Shack originally, and I don't
Speaker 1: really need to read his credits. He and he just
Speaker 1: is greatest human. I feel like, is what do you
Speaker 1: think that you put him on this list because of
Speaker 1: Shack Life? But that's what finally convinced it was Shack Life,
Speaker 1: which is mainly about Shack's E d M career, Like
Speaker 1: like every storyline is Shaq gonna be a good E
Speaker 1: d M d J Jenson. Do you watch Shack Life? Well,
Speaker 1: I was the executive producer of a failed pilot with
Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neil and Ken John last year, So I would
Speaker 1: say I know Shack a little too well, so much
Speaker 1: so that I know that he loves hookah bars. Oh,
Speaker 1: I believe that. I believe he talks about hookah bars.
Speaker 1: He talks about hooka bars maybe fifty of the day. Truly, honestly,
Speaker 1: if you ever find yourself by the way, Jack is
Speaker 1: a incredible human being. He is loving and caring and
Speaker 1: so great and he was so fun with me. I
Speaker 1: have a great story. He did drop the mic and
Speaker 1: all day he was kind of acting like a big
Speaker 1: baby and being being a little bit grumpy. And my
Speaker 1: wife showed up to set, and my wife had met
Speaker 1: him before and that like, you're famous in the nineties,
Speaker 1: you know everyone, Yeah, some sort of surfboard was handed
Speaker 1: to you by sat at some point. And and Shaquil
Speaker 1: sees my wife for a second, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if he puts it together, but my wife goes, how
Speaker 1: Shack being And I go, you know what, he's kind
Speaker 1: of being a big baby. And she goes, Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: be here back. And so she walks over there and
Speaker 1: she's talking to him and she says, are you practicing?
Speaker 1: He goes you and she goes and she goes, uh,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna go out there and you gotta
Speaker 1: kill it, like you can't get embarrassed, I know. And
Speaker 1: then she says, you know, I did this show and
Speaker 1: I won, and he said you dude, and she goes
Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, I won my my rap battle after
Speaker 1: trophy and everything, and he's like, you want TV and
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, I used to be two paying on boy,
Speaker 1: and he's to go I knew it. He started like
Speaker 1: jumping around, and then he asked to take a picture
Speaker 1: with me and her, and he started to we started
Speaker 1: to lean down and it goes one two and he
Speaker 1: leans down to my ear and he goes to pango.
Speaker 1: Still got it, buddy. I mean it is wild too,
Speaker 1: because like I have been out with you guys in public,
Speaker 1: like you know, we would have those post sp dinners
Speaker 1: and when she walks through, everyone is like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like it's a wave of recognition and then like pure
Speaker 1: excitement and joy. Yeah, she has goodwill she which is great.
Speaker 1: I've always weirded out when someone like everything, like when
Speaker 1: I post something and everything is positive, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, how does that feel? And so like on
Speaker 1: top of that, like she looks so much the same,
Speaker 1: like from childhood, that it's like it's very difficult to
Speaker 1: really hide. I mean, that's why the pandemic actually has
Speaker 1: been kind of cool at times for her because she
Speaker 1: gets to wear a mask a target, which is like
Speaker 1: kind of a fun thing to do since it's the
Speaker 1: place we go, and every time we go, she has
Speaker 1: to take photos and I'm like, man, everyone's starting uh,
Speaker 1: and so I'm the one yelling and everyone's like, okay,
Speaker 1: my family said, trying to survive here, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's very funny. But Chack was very sweet and kind,
Speaker 1: and the next time I saw him, he remembers everything,
Speaker 1: so like the next time I saw him, he was
Speaker 1: like like he he seems to like remember every detail
Speaker 1: about stuff. So he's just a big, loving human being.
Speaker 1: But yes, I know all about his E d M career.
Speaker 1: I know that we talked about his kids and his
Speaker 1: kid's heart condition. We really, I mean, we spent probably
Speaker 1: five days in Atlanta together and he was great. Man,
Speaker 1: I wish that show went then. That I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: it made me, It made me want to keep him
Speaker 1: on there. I mean, very sweet, He's incredible, and the
Speaker 1: the citizens Arrest and the Restaurant Tour, And I mean,
Speaker 1: because you think about the NBA and T and T
Speaker 1: and that's my favorite show. I think it's the best
Speaker 1: comedy on TV. So they are TV stars to me now.
Speaker 1: But that's that's like one of seventy five. Then, like
Speaker 1: you know what people go like with a celebrity when
Speaker 1: they're big hang up is that they do everything. My
Speaker 1: question is like, how does Shack do all this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot. And also like he you know,
Speaker 1: let's not forget he has a cameo and Freddy got fingered,
Speaker 1: which is addressing here, but but beyond that, he did
Speaker 1: at one point while we were filming, look at me
Speaker 1: and he goes, he, uh, you think I should take
Speaker 1: the job they're offering me to be the face of
Speaker 1: Papa John's. And I was like and I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you, No, I don't think
Speaker 1: and he was like what I was like, well, come on, man,
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't a good you know, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: he's like I, but like I like Papa John's. And
Speaker 1: then and then he was the face of Papa so
Speaker 1: it was like he took it. So it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think he just takes any thing,
Speaker 1: even though I think that's easy to say because like,
Speaker 1: you know, the bond in general and all those things
Speaker 1: he does, But like I think he actually kind of
Speaker 1: loves doing stuff, like he's not doing it for the money.
Speaker 1: And one other story about him and not to hang
Speaker 1: on him too much. Great guy he is. We did
Speaker 1: a shoot at a retirement home where him and Ken
Speaker 1: John were supposed to help these old people like have
Speaker 1: a good day and take care of them and whatever
Speaker 1: this is. Yeah, it was ridiculous, and Shack during taping
Speaker 1: asked them where the game room was and they said
Speaker 1: they didn't have a game room and He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's so, you guys should have a game room, and
Speaker 1: then they and then I guess he became friends with
Speaker 1: one of the guys there. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: spoil the story by telling you, but I guess he
Speaker 1: found out what his favorite game is. And then when
Speaker 1: the last day of taping he had to pool tables delivered,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so sweet. So it's like he's
Speaker 1: rules on Shack life. He bought two kids who didn't
Speaker 1: even know la Tops and who did they think he was?
Speaker 1: Michael Jordian fans of the Apple Store, and Shack happened
Speaker 1: to be in there, and Shack just like hey, throwing
Speaker 1: two computers or whatever. And these people working there were
Speaker 1: crying because they were like these boys coming here every
Speaker 1: day just to like look around. He's better than Santa
Speaker 1: Claus and he yes, you know, like he's great. Oh.
Speaker 1: I saw him at the Grove and I was like
Speaker 1: holding a cheesecake factory to go bag and I was
Speaker 1: a little stoned and I just was like I love
Speaker 1: you and he was like thank you. And it's like
Speaker 1: every I was in Nordstrom and I'm like, did you
Speaker 1: guys see Shack going up to everyone? And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like he is the Beatles all in one person kind
Speaker 1: of he is. He is. And we asked him he
Speaker 1: just bought a house in Cattle Basses and he did
Speaker 1: drop the mic and Daniel and I were asking about
Speaker 1: like furnishing. He's like, I'm going to Good Furniture after this,
Speaker 1: which is hilarious, Like just the middle of the day,
Speaker 1: you go shopping and we go where do you go? Like,
Speaker 1: and he's like modern living or he's like he's a
Speaker 1: man of the people, like the giant step the stuff
Speaker 1: that's not rich. Yeah, Shack, that is still from Cribs. Yeah, Shack.
Speaker 1: That's great. Okay, let's take one. Let's break and we'll
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back with our final picks. Jensen.
Speaker 1: What we do here is we usually have you go
Speaker 1: last as our our our big climax. Um. So, Megan,
Speaker 1: you want to kick us off here? Yeah? Gosh, this
Speaker 1: doesn't even feel right in my soul. But I mean,
Speaker 1: who else has had mini series about that? You know
Speaker 1: this isn't o J But I don't know. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: So my honorable mention, I guess is Jim Brown. Um,
Speaker 1: just like a very incredible like seven time rushing leader
Speaker 1: or eight time leading rusher in his nine seasons, three
Speaker 1: time m v P and then went on to be
Speaker 1: in fifty films. One of them was he had the
Speaker 1: first interracial sex scene that a major studio movie had
Speaker 1: ever done, which I think this means like non porn
Speaker 1: and it was with Raquel Welch. So that's very cool. Um.
Speaker 1: And then my other honorable mention is obviously Bill Bradley,
Speaker 1: who was like kind of the only other politician that
Speaker 1: I could feel like was semi aligned. So now I'm
Speaker 1: picking someone who ended up being a politician. But his
Speaker 1: life and just everything is so insane. And it's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 1: So by the way, he's left, he's left leaning, yeah,
Speaker 1: and like it's California, so it's like, and I don't
Speaker 1: even take I don't even dislike his like politics. I
Speaker 1: don't even really care about his politics that much. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't. He doesn't like inspire anything in me. But
Speaker 1: his life is so incredible. And to be this Mr
Speaker 1: Universe and seven time Mr Olympia, that is a feat
Speaker 1: in it of itself. Like if he had stayed is
Speaker 1: he from Austria somewhere, If he had stayed in that
Speaker 1: country and then just been that you are famous, you
Speaker 1: go everywhere, and you're famous for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: But then to come to the United States and become
Speaker 1: a giant movie star. I know what happened in between
Speaker 1: that though, right he was being offered movies as bodybuilder
Speaker 1: that he would turn down, and he used the money
Speaker 1: from competitions to buy apartment complexes. Yes, oh yes, I
Speaker 1: did know that, and like was wealthy off of that alone,
Speaker 1: and then would accept you know, like these movies that
Speaker 1: made at Yeah, he made great investments and then became
Speaker 1: a movie star, which okay, now you've had two very
Speaker 1: very impressive careers. And then on top of that, in
Speaker 1: addition to kindergarten, cop and twins ran four and became
Speaker 1: governor of California, which is basically like being president of
Speaker 1: a country. I mean, it's the fifth largest economy in
Speaker 1: the world, and he was in charge of it. He
Speaker 1: married a Kennedy like everything he did, I mean, and
Speaker 1: then he had a baby with their housekeeper, but he
Speaker 1: didn't marry you. But you know what, you know what,
Speaker 1: can I give you a little credit there? He also
Speaker 1: just like took ownership of it. He did, and he
Speaker 1: like he takes care of the kid. The kid loves him,
Speaker 1: Like I know that. That's like obviously a terrible story
Speaker 1: and pretty much ruined his family. But like, also he
Speaker 1: did the right thing. Yes, he's not bad. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a bad guy. I think he's a very
Speaker 1: interesting guy who's led a fascinating life, who has been successful,
Speaker 1: has reached the top, the pinnacle of success in three
Speaker 1: of the hardest industries you can and so he's obviously
Speaker 1: very driven. His quarantine videos have been pretty funny. His
Speaker 1: ancient island looks massive. Donald Trump. Donald Trump just like
Speaker 1: a pretty funny, cool guy that I'm happy I got
Speaker 1: to live at the same time he did. Yes, And
Speaker 1: I do want to make a rule that I have
Speaker 1: for myself, which is, if you have if you've ever
Speaker 1: had any sort of ownership in a planet, Hollywood, I
Speaker 1: pretty much understand have done terrible things with women, Like
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna say, like you're awesome. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Like I kind of understand that time of Stallone and
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger and Bruce Willis and guys who like if we
Speaker 1: really broke down their lives and be like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is terrible like that. Like I just don't, like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear any of those stories because it'll
Speaker 1: just ruin all my favorite actions. Yeah. But even as
Speaker 1: I'm like skimming stuff right now, he took care of
Speaker 1: a nephew who his brother like he he does do
Speaker 1: the right thing. And I think overall was probably like
Speaker 1: a fine governor of California. You can absolutely DM man
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. But he had two massive
Speaker 1: careers after his playing career. Yeah, alright, well, my pick
Speaker 1: is I feel like he is on his way to
Speaker 1: becoming a Schwarzenegger is. But I pick Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and his sort of thing is that. I mean, he
Speaker 1: played I don't know if he played any actual regular
Speaker 1: season NFL games, but he was, you know, a college player.
Speaker 1: I think he played for Miami. He was on the
Speaker 1: University of Miami championship team. He has a rare and
Speaker 1: he came from everything, yeah, I think, and then he
Speaker 1: was injured. It wasn't like he was bad, he was
Speaker 1: he got injured. But and then to find wrestling or
Speaker 1: his dad was a wrestler. Correct, He came from wrestling
Speaker 1: and he also in it too. Yeah, and he is
Speaker 1: maybe our one of our biggest movie stars um right now.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's any sign of that
Speaker 1: letting up, but he and everyone keeps talking about him
Speaker 1: becoming the president at some point in the future, which
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't go that way, But would I
Speaker 1: be mad. I'd be curious to see what it looks
Speaker 1: like after Trumps. Yeah, it seems like he has good
Speaker 1: intentions at the very least, and everything he does, whether
Speaker 1: that's authentic or not, I think he does really kind things. Um,
Speaker 1: he's like a motivational Yes, I think he's very thoughtful.
Speaker 1: I think he gives props in a really genuine way.
Speaker 1: I think his cheap males are hilarious. Like he just
Speaker 1: seems like an actual good father, good guy and a
Speaker 1: good actor, Like not good, I mean his movie. He's
Speaker 1: a good action star. Yeah, he's a good action star.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a wrestling fan, but he was one
Speaker 1: of those wrestlers that the mainstream new can you spell
Speaker 1: what the Rock is? Cookae? He was. He was one
Speaker 1: of the most famous wrestlers when the thing that simpresses
Speaker 1: me is that he still goes back and whether whether
Speaker 1: or not that's to promote whatever he's doing, it's like
Speaker 1: he seems to really remember his roots. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: knows that core that core fan base has been there
Speaker 1: for him since date one. So I feel like he's
Speaker 1: just good at seeing he's always just so smart. He
Speaker 1: always does the right thing. He's he's been very clean.
Speaker 1: It's a little will Smith at times, like he's very
Speaker 1: very good, yes, being savvy. Yeah, yeah, so the Rock,
Speaker 1: The Rock is very good pick and and you know what,
Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of wrestlers and and athletes, probably wrestlers more so
Speaker 1: than athletes that are like, I'm gonna be a movie
Speaker 1: star now, and we see that it doesn't always work.
Speaker 1: It can't just be like, oh, you were famous and
Speaker 1: a big, strong guy, we'll put you in films and
Speaker 1: that will translate. It doesn't. So he he did have
Speaker 1: to put in work and and did become his success
Speaker 1: in that in his in his own way. For every
Speaker 1: Dwayne Johnson, there is a Brian Bosworth. All right, Jensen,
Speaker 1: My number one pick is another guy who on Google
Speaker 1: could pretty much defeat everything I'm saying. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if I just picked bone heads on purpose, but
Speaker 1: this one to me, when you think about entrepreneurs that
Speaker 1: have come out of sports, this is the number one guy.
Speaker 1: I know. He's become a bit of a meme in
Speaker 1: a way of being like a bumbling idiot over the years,
Speaker 1: at least the last three or four years. But Irvin
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, Yeah, uh, you know, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: basketball players of all time. He you know, kind of
Speaker 1: read find the Championship. In my opinion, I think you know,
Speaker 1: the idea of three pet and all you know, just showtime.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not even a Lakers guy. I'm a
Speaker 1: Clippers guy, which is very depressing. But he redefined the
Speaker 1: game and almost like honestly the only other Jordans s
Speaker 1: kind of way like he was a superstar. And then obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, with HIV and all these things that have
Speaker 1: come up, you were like, what's going to happen with
Speaker 1: this guy? And I think everyone back in the nineties
Speaker 1: at least just assumed it was like a death sentence.
Speaker 1: And he's been able to turn it around into like
Speaker 1: this huge enterprise that owns radio stations, movie theaters, magazines,
Speaker 1: real estate, cable TV, sports teams. He owns a used own.
Speaker 1: I think it just just took his name off it,
Speaker 1: but that t G I fridays near the airport. Um.
Speaker 1: He in a movie theater, redefined kind of black cinema
Speaker 1: for a long time, at least here in l a
Speaker 1: UM And I know that like he's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: he ran the Lakers into a weird place, and he
Speaker 1: obviously wasn't able to sign the guys they needed last
Speaker 1: year with Kauai and stuff, and and and his Twitter
Speaker 1: is just like it's it's like almost like a guy
Speaker 1: who's never played basketball, tweeting who doesn't even know the game.
Speaker 1: But you know, this guy did so much and he's
Speaker 1: worth a billion dollars, you know, supposedly. And his wife
Speaker 1: is also a massively successful fashion designer. And her name
Speaker 1: is Cookie. And her name is Cookie. And if you're
Speaker 1: able to if you're able to succeed with the name Cookie,
Speaker 1: that's unbelievable. And his his children are famous. He's been
Speaker 1: a very supportive father to um in like you know,
Speaker 1: in some cases that some people wouldn't be supportive. And
Speaker 1: I think, like the HIV of it all, he really
Speaker 1: changed how this country looked at that. Yeah. And also
Speaker 1: you talk about his son, it's like the reaction that
Speaker 1: he had was now is so normal, right, Like you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, with the Dwayne Wade stuff, like everyone is
Speaker 1: sort of now accepting, But like I remember there being
Speaker 1: a bit of like a backlash of being like magic sons.
Speaker 1: His son is gay, Like it was like a thing,
Speaker 1: like people were like kind of bugged out about it,
Speaker 1: and he obviously never flinched. But like he again, he
Speaker 1: has a bit of a Mr. Magoo vibe now. But
Speaker 1: but in truth, I think he also defined the entrepreneurial
Speaker 1: sports star. Yes, he was like, my career is going
Speaker 1: to end and and prematurely it did, and and what
Speaker 1: is going to be my second act? And how do
Speaker 1: I make it greater? Which in a lot of ways
Speaker 1: you see Kobe emulate, and which like Lebron is already
Speaker 1: setting up. And he changed how you could go from
Speaker 1: superstar to continue to be superstar. Yeah, and there is
Speaker 1: like some weird alternate reality where his talk show is
Speaker 1: still going on in my mind, and like all of us,
Speaker 1: at one point was the head writer on that staff,
Speaker 1: that would have been amazing. Yeah, Megan definitely did a
Speaker 1: tight fie off. Megan did did stand up and then
Speaker 1: she got hired as a writer, Like I have the
Speaker 1: whole the whole timeline worked out in my brain. Sean
Speaker 1: O'Connor did three months. I really love his family. I
Speaker 1: really like Cookie and him were so they're just so
Speaker 1: lovely and they're just so graceful too. And his son
Speaker 1: is also so famous. His son is on a reality show,
Speaker 1: so like it's very out there, and he just seems
Speaker 1: so happy as a father and a husband. And I
Speaker 1: think that's really beautiful too. I mean, that is successful
Speaker 1: in its own right. That's my pick the Entrepreneurial King. Awesome. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much Jensen for joining us and everyone.
Speaker 1: Please if you're listening, listen to the No Sports Report
Speaker 1: also on I Heart Radio. Jensen, is there anything else
Speaker 1: that you wanted to plug? Uh? No, I mean every Monday,
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday, my wife and I really just for
Speaker 1: fun and to get our minds off this negativity and
Speaker 1: try to bring other people into some fun stuff. We've
Speaker 1: since the beginning of Quarantine, literally since like March fifteen,
Speaker 1: we do a game show out of our house on
Speaker 1: Instagram Live where we give away items we find uh
Speaker 1: in different rooms of our house. We've given away a
Speaker 1: croc pod, we've given away, We've given away a sixty
Speaker 1: six dollar Red Bob and gift cards that we used
Speaker 1: once was I saw that. I was like, I would
Speaker 1: have paid three for that on v Bay. It was
Speaker 1: a great card again, a Boy Me World card again
Speaker 1: from casting Crew. This this Friday, we're giving away signed
Speaker 1: fun goes by Ben Savage and her the Sanin and
Speaker 1: Corey One. So we we've been having a lot of
Speaker 1: fun with it and uh and it's really it's just
Speaker 1: Instagram Live every Monday, Wednesday Friday at seven pm, uh
Speaker 1: seven pm Pacific, we do this other thing called head
Speaker 1: Shot Roulette where you pick A or B and A
Speaker 1: is my terribly sad failed childhood head shot and then
Speaker 1: be as Daniells. And we had five people in a
Speaker 1: row pick mine. It was so sad. I felt so
Speaker 1: bad every time. Yeah, all right, and continue to rate
Speaker 1: and review the podcast. Thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 1: Thanks Jensen. I'm so happy that your son is safe,
Speaker 1: and I hope you and Danielle s safe and healthy too.
Speaker 1: You guys as well. Thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: having me. We'll see you next week. Thanks, thanks guys.
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