WEBVTT - Why The Left Coast Is Crumbling?

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<v Speaker 1>You are entering the freedom hunt. California fires burn out

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<v Speaker 1>of control and people are starting to look at the

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<v Speaker 1>state and the blackouts and all the problems and say,

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on. We'll get into that, and plus

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<v Speaker 1>the latest on the VINMN testimony in closed door session,

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<v Speaker 1>what really happened there, Epstein suicide, some new questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>also when should bosses just get out of the way?

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<v Speaker 1>Animore coming up on the Buck Sexton Show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the Buck Sexton Show where the mission or mission is

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<v Speaker 1>to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no

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<v Speaker 1>mistake America, You're a great American Again the Buck Sexton

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<v Speaker 1>Show begins. He's a great guy. No, Welcome to Buck

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<v Speaker 1>Saxon Show. Everybody a lot to get to today. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have more on the process of Nancy Pelosi and Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Schiff trying to do an impeachment behind closed doors where

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<v Speaker 1>there's no transparency. Man, I have so many things I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hit today. I'm not even sure we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to them all. Free college in New Mexico paid for

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<v Speaker 1>by oil though, Oh that could be a problem. Almost

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand unaccompanied minor children showed up the border so far.

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<v Speaker 1>This I believe it's this past fiscal year, and were

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<v Speaker 1>there efforts to change the transcript of the phone call

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<v Speaker 1>between Presidents Lensky and President Trump. We have oh Is

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<v Speaker 1>questioning Lieutenant Colonel Vinman on patriotic We'll get into that

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<v Speaker 1>and so much more. I wanted to start, though, with

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<v Speaker 1>a question that I posed to our our guest yesterday, Tiana,

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<v Speaker 1>the esteemed Tiana Low of the Washington Examiner. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>California native. Perhaps we'll get Victor Davis Hanson, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite living authors, Victor Davis Hansen, to come on

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<v Speaker 1>and join us, because he has always had some very

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<v Speaker 1>worthwhile thoughts about just what the heck is going on

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<v Speaker 1>in California. Where is the political backlash to problems that

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<v Speaker 1>now are just blaringly obvious, that are just staring everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. And I wanted to start, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>let's review some of what's going on there. You right

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<v Speaker 1>now have fires that are even threatening the Reagan Library,

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<v Speaker 1>fires burning out of control. If the winds get bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see hundreds and hundreds of homes perhaps who

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<v Speaker 1>knows how many millions and millions of dollars have damage done,

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<v Speaker 1>People losing all their personal belongings, and of course, most importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>most urgently, the possibility of people in harm's way, as

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<v Speaker 1>these fires can burn very fast, very quickly, changed direction,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can be caught in a place where there's

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<v Speaker 1>just no way to help, there's no one who can

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<v Speaker 1>get to you in time. You have these fires, then

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<v Speaker 1>you also have the blackouts. And the fires and the

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<v Speaker 1>blackouts are related. And I'm keep in mind this is

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<v Speaker 1>not just a state. California is the fifth largest economy

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<v Speaker 1>in the world by itself, and because of the political

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<v Speaker 1>monoculture that exists there, it is largely now a standard

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<v Speaker 1>bearer of unfettered liberalism, progressivism without any speed bumps or

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<v Speaker 1>breaks put on it. Just go all in progressive, very

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<v Speaker 1>high taxes, tremendous regulation, left wing special interest dictating policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have the problem with the blackouts tied to

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<v Speaker 1>the fires, because the blackouts that are currently affecting almost

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<v Speaker 1>forty million or could effect up to forty million people

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of California, are a result of concerns

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<v Speaker 1>over the fires. Why do you have fires in California

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<v Speaker 1>like this? And by the way, the fires are more

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<v Speaker 1>devastating in recent years than had been the past. People

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<v Speaker 1>want to point to climate change, but in fact, there

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<v Speaker 1>were more fires overall earlier in history if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the data on this, So there's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that there are more fires that but fires have become

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<v Speaker 1>more devastating. Why is that they will tell us it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of climate change. That's just they're just pointing to

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that makes them happiest as an answer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>much more likely that the natural state that many of

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<v Speaker 1>the environmentalist groups in California insist on for the forested areas,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning leave all the dead brush, leave all the stuff there,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do any controlled burns, and don't do any active

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<v Speaker 1>forestry management, just let everything pile up. That then results

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<v Speaker 1>in much more devastating, fast burning fires in many areas

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<v Speaker 1>of the state. And then you also have the blackouts

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<v Speaker 1>that have come down. A PG and E, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the major utility company involved here, has insisted on voluntary blackouts,

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<v Speaker 1>at least voluntary from perspective of the company does not

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<v Speaker 1>have to do this thing, but is doing it because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want liability for fires that are caused by

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<v Speaker 1>down power lines. All right, so when there are fires

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<v Speaker 1>going on, they're concerned about being blamed for fires that

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<v Speaker 1>result from a down power line. Obviously, if the fire

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<v Speaker 1>stretches in and hits some of the power lines, or

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<v Speaker 1>if winds pick up, which is a concern about the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all these different components of risk for PG and E,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what do they do. They say, Fine, We're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna turn off the power. Now, this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that you generally associate with a third world country, having

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<v Speaker 1>been in countries where in the middle of a day,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, all the lights go out, all

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<v Speaker 1>the computers go blank, the air conditioning shuts off. If

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<v Speaker 1>they have air conditioning, You say to yourself, what just happened, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, a blackout. They'll be on hopefully in

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<v Speaker 1>an hour or two, and everyone just kind of goes okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the people of California should get used

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I don't think that they should accept this

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<v Speaker 1>as the future, as the status quo. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>wonder when will they wake up to what's really going

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<v Speaker 1>on here? When will they recognize that First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>less than ten percent of fires are started by down

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<v Speaker 1>of these major forest fires are started started by down

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<v Speaker 1>electrical lines, and all the all the judgments that are

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<v Speaker 1>being made right now by PG and E are very

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<v Speaker 1>much affected by the hyper regulatory environment that insists on

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, having the power company extend their networks

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<v Speaker 1>to housing developments in what are considered very high fire areas,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the power company is like, well, that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be bad for us, because what happens if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a fire caused by a downpower line in that high

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<v Speaker 1>risk area? Up, you're going to be You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be held responsible. In fact, the state of California holds

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<v Speaker 1>the power company responsible regardless of negligence. So they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to provide power up something bad happens, power company is

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<v Speaker 1>responsible now, and this is part of the litigious anti

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<v Speaker 1>corporate attitude, even though it's a utility company not really technically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really a private corporation the same way, but

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<v Speaker 1>some big depocketed corporate entity has to pay when bad

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<v Speaker 1>things happen to people. This is another liberal idea, although

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it crosses party lines. California is a one party government, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we look at the exploding homeless population on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets of California cities, when we look at the

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<v Speaker 1>terrible water management issues where they've had stretching back for

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<v Speaker 1>years now, concerns about drought and what are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. California as a as a piece of land,

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<v Speaker 1>as a piece of territory, should be paradise. Basically, it's

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly rich in natural resources. You have an amazingly hospitable

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<v Speaker 1>natural climate there for agriculture, obviously for growing wine up

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<v Speaker 1>in Napa and Sonoma, as well as other places in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of California. It's there's oil in California, there's

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<v Speaker 1>natural There's just tremendous natural resources in California. But there

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<v Speaker 1>have been mismanaged horribly by those who are blinded by ideology.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we get into this. So so what happens

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<v Speaker 1>now there's the flow from California of families, especially young

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<v Speaker 1>working families, that are saying, we're done with this. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to Nevada, We're going to Texas, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, perhaps Tennessee. I don't know, but they're just

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<v Speaker 1>leaving places in California because I can't take it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>The Golden State is no longer golden for them. They've

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<v Speaker 1>had enough. Now that part of your mind that thinks

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<v Speaker 1>about the federalist system that we have and the experiments

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<v Speaker 1>of government in all the individual states. There should be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a light going off there. When

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<v Speaker 1>will people learn the lesson? Oh, but they'll tell us

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<v Speaker 1>California so wealthy. Look at how wealthy it is. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at how many people live there. Well, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people live there because they've been born into this state

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<v Speaker 1>that is getting over time increasingly poorly managed. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are also enormous concentrations of wealth in Silicon Valley and

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood. Those are the two big ones that you

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<v Speaker 1>generally think of, But remember those are now appealing to

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<v Speaker 1>a global marketplace. They're not just local company towns. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not really responsible for the state of California. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they pay high taxes, or they have armies of accountants

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<v Speaker 1>and try to avoid taxation as much as possible. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of ways that corporatism and big government

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<v Speaker 1>go hand in hand, go together. But you'll notice that

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<v Speaker 1>progressives have not yet figured out. They haven't yet connected

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<v Speaker 1>the dots here as to why are all these things

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<v Speaker 1>happening in this state? How is it that the same

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<v Speaker 1>state that is home to the most wealthy technology corporations

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Well, I mean I guess Amazon's technically

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<v Speaker 1>not California base, but Google and Facebook and well all

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<v Speaker 1>of them are on YouTube's owned by Google, all these

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<v Speaker 1>different companies that are based out there. That's the same

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<v Speaker 1>state now that has blackouts for millions of people when

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fire going somewhere in the state. That seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be a warning sign, doesn't it. But here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Progressives can live off this so called can live off

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<v Speaker 1>the fat of the land for a while. They can

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<v Speaker 1>take what they can and it over the period of

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<v Speaker 1>time that they are running in economy in this case

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<v Speaker 1>of state economy into a ground, into the ground. They

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<v Speaker 1>will always come up with new excuses to why this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. You also have in that progressive stronghold on

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<v Speaker 1>the left coast the wealth inequality that is looking like

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<v Speaker 1>a third world country while they're pretending to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>so much to help working people. At some point there

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<v Speaker 1>may come a moment of recognition. I would hope for

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<v Speaker 1>the people of California and for the entire Every time

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<v Speaker 1>I say that, I think the people of California with NATO,

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<v Speaker 1>with Schwartzenega. Schwartzenega took on the public sector unions that

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<v Speaker 1>are politically unbeatable in the state and they just crushed him.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was after they had the recall of that governor.

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<v Speaker 1>So politics has been largely dysfunctional there because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>one party state. But progressives never learned a lesson, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you really have to take away from this.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't see cause and effect. They just come up

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<v Speaker 1>with theories. Oh it's climate change. Oh it's because the

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<v Speaker 1>rich aren't paying their fair share. It's always a slogan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never rooted in cause and effect, the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>what's really happening day to day, what decisions are made,

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<v Speaker 1>and what are the consequences of those decisions, especially by

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<v Speaker 1>the state government. These things take time, right, It takes

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<v Speaker 1>time to ruin a city, as we see here in

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<v Speaker 1>New York with Mari de Blasio. It takes time to

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<v Speaker 1>ruin a state. The problem with waiting until all the

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<v Speaker 1>results are in there's really twofold. One then things are ruined,

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<v Speaker 1>and two they won't even take responsibility once they've destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you've been warning them all along they

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<v Speaker 1>were destroying. That's really part of the lesson of mismanagement

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<v Speaker 1>in California, in many major cities that are Democrats strongholds,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Detroit or Chicago or Baltimore. It's never the

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<v Speaker 1>fault of the people in charge, you see, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>external factors. It's almost like the Venezuela playbook here. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that the Majuro regime and before the Chavez

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<v Speaker 1>regime turned a generally well off South American country into

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<v Speaker 1>an impoverished, anarchic waste land. It's the Yankee Americans were

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that ruin this country. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Chicago, you talking about Baltimore, talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>whole state of California. Now, it can't be the Democrat Party.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be the policies of the left which make

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<v Speaker 1>people feel good and can sound good, but in practice

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<v Speaker 1>our disastrous. Whether it's water management, forestry, dealing with fires,

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<v Speaker 1>management of utility companies, economic inequality, all these different areas

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<v Speaker 1>where California is just a disaster. They don't learn the lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one of the reasons why we can't just

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to play out their experiment. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>try and come up with a counter argument, come up

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<v Speaker 1>with an alternative that people will believe in enough to

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<v Speaker 1>take power out of the hands of the left wing idealogues,

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<v Speaker 1>the central planners of progressivism, and give it to people

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<v Speaker 1>who know what the heck they're doing and will govern

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<v Speaker 1>based on not just the will of the people as

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<v Speaker 1>they see it, but on the results of their policies.

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<v Speaker 1>They can tell us all day about how terrible Trump is.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at how the country's doing, Trump's the president. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at how California is doing. Democrats were on the whole state.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the proof is in the pudding, as they say,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, but don't expect them to learn that less

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<v Speaker 1>than any time soon. There's always a ready excuse when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about leftist no matter how much they destroy

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<v Speaker 1>what should be a great state, a great place. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're doing right now. The President's done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work to strengthen the alliances that perhaps were

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<v Speaker 1>neglected in the previous administration. And what we found is

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<v Speaker 1>that by working with our partners in our allies throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the world, we're able to create better burden sharing, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're able to find ways to hopefully resolve some of

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<v Speaker 1>the more difficult situations in the world without escalating them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so again, all the things that the people were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>who are against the president. Last time, we're saying would happen,

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<v Speaker 1>that we're bad if the president want hapn't happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, the next morning, the sun rose, in

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<v Speaker 1>the next evening, the sun set, and Americans. America's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>more and more prosperous, and I think people really like

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<v Speaker 1>what the president's doing. The last part people would argue with,

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<v Speaker 1>but the part right before it, and I was Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Kushtier By the way, we don't hear very much from

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<v Speaker 1>from Jared, But America is getting more and more prosperous.

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<v Speaker 1>Things things are going well. I like to judge a

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<v Speaker 1>politician by the results of policies and by what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in the aftermath of their decisions, not by what the

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<v Speaker 1>media tells me needs to happen. You know, there's all

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<v Speaker 1>these conversations that Kenny had about healthcare, about the border,

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<v Speaker 1>about the economy, about trade with China. These are issues

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<v Speaker 1>that matter. But instead of what you have on the

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<v Speaker 1>left is this obsession with just trying to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with some excuse to impeach the president when we know

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to impeach him no matter what they find,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what the excuses, doesn't matter. It's all. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all just a ruse. It's a sham, it's a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Who told you? I told you, I'm not the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that the Russia collusion thing was a joke, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it all happened. We went through this investigation and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, I was right. I'm telling you again, this

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<v Speaker 1>old Ukraine thing is ridiculous. We already have the transcript,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're saying, oh, maybe maybe there are changes

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be made of the transcript, but in

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<v Speaker 1>case you don't know, really, just how worthwhile and brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>The mainstream media is MSNBC's Nicole Wallace, Republican administration official

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and the Bush administration, she's one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what she said about Fox News Fox News conversation

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with Alexander Vinman, who's the one who testified recently

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<v Speaker 1>about Ukraine, played twenty three. Here we have a US

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<v Speaker 1>national security official who is advising Ukraine while working inside

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, apparently against the President's interest, and usually

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<v Speaker 1>they spoke in English. Isn't that kind of an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>angle on this story? I find that astounding, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people might call that espionage, except those people aren't

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<v Speaker 1>chicken like the three of you, and they know that

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<v Speaker 1>he passed a background check that the president's daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>son in latdn't. I think, I don't know jo conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Nicole, you heard that. In the beginning, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Laura Ingraham, then John You talking on Fox News.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Nicole Wallace comes in to say that they

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<v Speaker 1>are chicken bleeps. That's the kind of astute analysis, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adult conversation you can expect over at MSNBC

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<v Speaker 1>these days. When I tell you that Trump derangement syndrome

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<v Speaker 1>is real, that it makes people crazy, that they can't

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<v Speaker 1>make normal, rational decisions because of their hatred for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>I really mean that it overrides other decision making processes.

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<v Speaker 1>The hatred of Trump becomes the primary motivation for anything

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. But let's talk more about this congressional impeachment

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<v Speaker 1>situation in Men and all the rest of it. Adam Schiff,

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<v Speaker 1>among many things, has been trying to claim that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a fair process by saying that Republicans are allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to ask questions. Now he gets to choose all the

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses and him and himself only, which means it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fair process. On the face. But even his claim

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<v Speaker 1>now that Republicans can ask questions has been undermined because

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<v Speaker 1>now he's directing witnesses not to answer questions that he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want the witness to answer if they're asked by Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not cut off one Democrat, he's not interrupted one

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat and told the witness not to answer Democrat members questions.

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<v Speaker 1>But today he started telling witnesses the witness not to

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<v Speaker 1>answer questions by certain Republicans. That reeks. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to talk about a Soviet style process again,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be what they do in the Soviet Union,

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<v Speaker 1>not in the United States of America. We can't stand

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<v Speaker 1>for this. The American people are being denied equal justice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've plodded the speaker for finally admitting it is a

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<v Speaker 1>hood tire sham, but you can't put the genie back

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom. A due process starts at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't affirm a missham investigation all the way through.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were in the legal term, it'd be the

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<v Speaker 1>fruit from the poisonous tree. It'd be a mistrial. None

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<v Speaker 1>of this said, none of this information would go forward.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's most important to the American public. We all

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<v Speaker 1>have the phone call, we all have the transcript, we

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<v Speaker 1>are all able to see there was no quid pro quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the money was released. Ukraine did nothing and no action

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<v Speaker 1>was taken. Where's the crime, where's the impeachment? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>impeachable offense? The American public sees that we should move on,

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<v Speaker 1>and they continue to try to move a whole sham organization.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to work. Well, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>move on, not for sure. The Democrats won't allow it.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about all of us. Yeah, the process,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on behind closed doors? What has Shifty Shift

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<v Speaker 1>been up to? Also this former NFC staffer Vinman and

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<v Speaker 1>his testimony and all the brew haha over that, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got our friend Sean Davis with us now. He is

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<v Speaker 1>co founder of the Federalists. Go to the Federalist dot

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<v Speaker 1>com for his latest Sean, Thank you so much, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. All right, man, let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the process. What was this yesterday about Shift telling people?

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<v Speaker 1>So he picks the witnesses, then he has the witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>testifying behind closed doors, and then he tells the witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes don't answer that how does this work? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of amazing. I think the best analog would be

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<v Speaker 1>to think of a criminal trial where the prosecutor is

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<v Speaker 1>also the judge and also the jury. And in this example,

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor can call whoever he wants, question whoever he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>present whatever evidence he wants, but he won't allow the

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<v Speaker 1>defense to call any witnesses, won't allow the defense to

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<v Speaker 1>present or question evidence, and won't even allow the defense

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<v Speaker 1>to cross examine or ask questions of witnesses. I think

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<v Speaker 1>calling this a Soviet style show trial is probably unfair

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<v Speaker 1>to Soviet show trials. And what happened yesterday was Vinman,

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<v Speaker 1>this NFC staffer was asked, Hey, who did you share

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<v Speaker 1>all this information with? Who did you share the transcript

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<v Speaker 1>or read out information with? Who did you lead information to?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was at that point that shift told him

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<v Speaker 1>not to answer. That isn't just a shocking obstruction of

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<v Speaker 1>what it's supposed to be a fact finding process? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we know about where Nancy Pelosi is on

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<v Speaker 1>all this? They have had some vote on or there's

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<v Speaker 1>a presentation of a process here, they've got a resolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does the process stand for this impeachment? Inquiry whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they're calling it. I mean, can you just bring us

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed on where this is right now? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nowhere because this investigation they keep referencing is non existent.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I say that is because in the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representatives is vested with the authority to

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<v Speaker 1>conduct impeachment. Now, a single member of Congress is not

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<v Speaker 1>the House of re Presentatives. Leadership is not the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Representatives. Nancy Pelosi is not the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 1>The House of Representatives is clearly what it states, It's

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<v Speaker 1>the body as a whole. And that body has never,

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<v Speaker 1>not a single time, authorized any of these types of

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<v Speaker 1>investigations into Trump. And so the way the process works

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<v Speaker 1>is when you don't have the entire House delegating specific

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<v Speaker 1>authority to a specific committee, you are left with the

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<v Speaker 1>authority of those various committees and their limited jurisdictions. So

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence they can look at Intel activities, appropriations, they can

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<v Speaker 1>look at funding activities, Defense can look at the Defense Department.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is happening instead of the Intel Committee led

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<v Speaker 1>by Adam Schiff, is doing things that are far outside

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<v Speaker 1>of its jurisdiction, subpoenaing people that they have no authority

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<v Speaker 1>to subpoena. And then you have Pelosi understanding that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a sham process, one that's not authorized, and now

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<v Speaker 1>facing a court challenge on that matter. She's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>come and clean up the mess after the fact with

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<v Speaker 1>this resolution, and has put her in a real bind.

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<v Speaker 1>She's having to rescue a scam tainted process without actually

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<v Speaker 1>authorizing a new, real investigation, because that in itself would

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<v Speaker 1>prove that the previous one was in valid. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>got a real mess on her hands nowt Now, just

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody listening, Sean worked in Congress. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>investigator what was for Senator Coburn, Yes, Senator Coburn. So

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<v Speaker 1>he knows about these processes and how this stuff all

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<v Speaker 1>goes on. He's been a part of all that. Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you expect to happen next? It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's some level the Democrats don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>All they know is they want control of it and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be able to change it day to

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<v Speaker 1>day to suit their needs. But do you have some

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<v Speaker 1>sense of how their strategy is going to play out,

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<v Speaker 1>what the timeline is they're working with here? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even sure they have a strategy at this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>think what they were going with was fire, aim and

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<v Speaker 1>then ready. They're kind of the dog that caught the

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<v Speaker 1>car at this point. Look, the Mueller investigation was a

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<v Speaker 1>failure for them. Mueller's testimony blew up in their faces,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've been searching ever since for an excuse to

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<v Speaker 1>have an impeachment show trial. And so when Schiff and

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<v Speaker 1>his team coordinated with this so called whistleblower to cook

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<v Speaker 1>all this up, they said, oh, well, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>And originally as they said, oh, we're going to impeach

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<v Speaker 1>him by November, well, I mean it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>November in two days. Oh we're gonna impeach him by Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's happening. Oh well, we might do

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<v Speaker 1>it by Christmas. I think they've lost control here. They

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<v Speaker 1>realize that there's no there there, that the public's not

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<v Speaker 1>with him, and so I think at this point what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to see is them trying to drag the

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<v Speaker 1>process out as long as possible so that the process

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<v Speaker 1>itself is punishment against Trump, that they can use it

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<v Speaker 1>as this cloud over his head heading into the elections,

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<v Speaker 1>much like they used the two year long Muller investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole purpose of that was, you know, maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get lucky and he'll get thrown out of office, but

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<v Speaker 1>if not, we're going to paralyze him for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>And they just decided in this process here, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>might not get what we actually want, but we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to paralyze them for a year heading into the election.

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<v Speaker 1>It's political. Is there going to be an impeachment vote

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<v Speaker 1>in the House. I've always felt like they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>impeach him no matter what, just because they really want to.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even if it's bad politics for them for

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<v Speaker 1>the election. I still think they're going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>because they can't help themselves. Is there a future in

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<v Speaker 1>which you see the Democrat majority House not vote to

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<v Speaker 1>impeach the president, not present articles of impeachment against him

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<v Speaker 1>on the House floor. So I'm with you. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Molar thing started, I said, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>it is not going to allow them to not impeach him.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna ppeach him for any reason or no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But as this process has dragged along, and as we've

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<v Speaker 1>watched Pelosi refused to even have a vote to authorize

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<v Speaker 1>an actual impeachment investigation. I'm beginning to think they're concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about their own politics here, because there's no procedural upside

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<v Speaker 1>to them avoiding a vote just allowing an investigation, So

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<v Speaker 1>there must be some reason why they're not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of two. Either they don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>votes at all, which I don't think is the case,

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<v Speaker 1>or they know that may King thirty or so swing

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<v Speaker 1>district members to walk the plank his political suicide for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they can't even get to a vote authorizing

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<v Speaker 1>an investigation, I'm not sure anymore they are ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a vote for impeachment. And I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>we may drag into twenty twenty and into the Democrat

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>primaries in Iowa and New Hampshire with them still having

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>not resolved it, which will be an absolute disaster for them,

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<v Speaker 1>given that I think half their members in the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>are currently running for president. Now let's talk about Vinman,

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<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Colonel Vinman, who I've been hearing so much about

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>from the media, and it's the usual how dare you

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>question this military man, which reminds me of how dare

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you questioned James Come? And then we found out that

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>he was the worst. And how dare you questioned, Mueller?

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 1>We found out that he was basically pulled out of

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>like the retirement home in order to pretend to be

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>running this investigation. It really seemed like you had no

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>idea what was going on. What do you make of

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this story that Vinman now may have tried to change

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.959
<v Speaker 1>the transcript of the phone call between the President and Zelenski?

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>What do you see here? What should we take away

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>from that? So I'll tell you, I'm amused by the

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>theatrics and faux hysteria over any questioning of Vinman, given

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>how we saw that these same people treated Michael Flynn,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>who was a very well decorated combat officer, three star general.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't take they call him a traitor, routinely,

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>routinely called him. Yeah, Sally Yates, you know, said he

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<v Speaker 1>had violated the Logan Act. I mean, come on, So

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>these people are not serious. A huge part of their

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>political operation is to shout down anyone who says or

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>asked anything they don't like, Just like shifted when Vinman

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>was asked, who did you leak to yesterday? You know,

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened with him editing a transcript

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 1>or not. I'll tell you I'm skeptical of any leaks

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that are obviously coming from Shift's office. The guy's a

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 1>liar and a fabricator, and he can't be trusted. I

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>will say that what concerns me most is, you know,

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm very thankful for Vinman's service and the sacrifices he

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>may in the armed services for US, but I'm extremely

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>concerned about an active duty uniform military officer going behind

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the President's back, trying to subvert his process, leaking to people,

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and taking part in what sure looks like an attempt

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>at coup against the commander in chief. I think that's

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>really problematic. When you have active duty military, you have

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Intelligence service and Security Service operatives inside the House attempting

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to criminalize differing foreign policy views that the president their

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>commander has. This is really really dangerous stuff, and I

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>worry that once you start going down this road, you

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>can never actually go back. And in terms of what

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to believe from this, it seems to me that, Okay,

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>there's that leak about maybe he wanted to change the transcript,

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that to me is meant to undermine what a lot

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of us have come away from this thinking which is, Okay,

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>we know what was said on the call. I don't

0:28:57.880 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>care what somebody else thinks about what was said on

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the call, whether they liked it or I know what

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>was said on the call. Therefore, I don't you know,

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>this is just more opinions of people who clearly don't

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>like and don't agree with the president on these issues

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>or perhaps on any issue. So that to me is

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe just to get around that problem for them. But

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<v Speaker 1>what you know as of now, what exactly is the

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>article of impeachment about this phone call supposed to say?

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>What if there's not a crime, this is supposed to be?

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>What abuse of power? That's I'm not even clear on

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>what the line of attack is. Well, look at the

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post, I believe the day Trump was inaugurated said

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>his impeachment begins now. So the real crime here is

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that Trump beat Hillary Clinton. That has always been the crime.

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>It's unpardonable and they will never forgive him for it.

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>So the last three years has been a futile fishing

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>expedition for maybe something that they can pretend is the

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>real reason they want to get rid of Trump, when

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>in reality the real reason is they want to get

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.959
<v Speaker 1>rid of him because he beat Hillary. So looking at

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that call, of course, there's no crime in there. This

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>is a president trying to enact his own foreign policy.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry when you go down into the chain

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of command in the military, it is not the job

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>of an O five detail to the White House to

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>determine what is or is not allowed by the president

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>in conducting the foreign policy. There's a reason we have

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>civilian control of the military and civilian control of government

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>in this country, and it's because the founders knew that

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>civilians needed to be accountable to the people who elected them.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>So when you have uniform military officers going in there,

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>marching into these congressional rooms and saying, you know, this

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>guy's awful. He tried to do things that I didn't

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>agree with, that's not how this country is run. Do

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you think we're going to find out who whistle blower is, Well,

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I think shift is desperate to make sure that never happens.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'll say, look, everyone in the media knows who

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it is. Everyone on the Democratic side knows who it is.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Leaks were coming out about this long before it happened.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>In fact, the whistleblower was colluding with SHIFT before ever

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>filing the complaints, and it was interesting, Shift before all

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that came out, said oh, we've got to get him

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>in here. We've got to get his testimony. He needs

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to come and testify. Most of us are like, yeah, absolutely,

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what this guy was up to.

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>But as soon as it was revealed that SHIFT was

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>colluding with him secretly before the complaint was filed, and

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the SHIFT lied about it, Shifted an immediate one eighty

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure we've even heard about the guy

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>ever since, which I find fascinating. Sean Davis, everybody check

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<v Speaker 1>out the Federalist dot com. They're doing great work over there, Sean.

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Always appreciate your perspective, sir. We'll talk to you soon.

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Always a pleasure, Thank you. Buck. They can't fix it.

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>The process is broken, it's tainted. They have gone through

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>this process where you have seen one side of the story.

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.479
<v Speaker 1>It's been an effort to get one side of facts

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and then to selectively leak those facts in order to

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>taint the president. The idea that we want to know

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>through this individual may have communicated with that's important informations

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and the idea that when during our hour, our counsel's

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>asking questions and Adam Shift tells the witness not to

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>answer our questions is completely ridiculous, and it's why this

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>should be in public. It's not possible to look at

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>what's going on right now and come away from it

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>thinking anything other than this is a get Trump procedure,

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>another get Trump procedure from Democrats, unless you are so

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>deluded with anti Trump sentiment that it's no longer possible

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>for you to be objective. And I think, unfortunately that's

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a widespread problem now. I think there are a lot

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of people out there who have been completely and utterly

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>their sanity on all issues of Trump has been taken

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>away from them. They just can't find a way to

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>step back and say, Okay, what's really true here, what's

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>really going on. I also believe that the American people

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>must be getting very tired of this. The ones who

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>hate Trump, you know, the the twenty or thirty percent

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>of the Democratic Party that or maybe twenty thirty percent

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of voters who are Democrats. They hate Trump so much

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>that any thing that is damaging for the president. It's

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, when the hamster hits the little

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>pedal and gets the gets to eat the pellet or whatever.

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. They just they want more, they need more.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.479
<v Speaker 1>They can't stop. And that's what CNN is set up

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to do. In MSNBC and New York Times and The

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post and many many other places, they're all just

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to feed a a brainwashed audience more anti more,

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a steady diet of anti Trump isn't because that's what

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>they think their audience wants to hear and read and see.

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's largely true. I can't imagine that

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>most Americans care all that much about these shenanigans. I

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine anybody watches Adam Schiff give these press conferences

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>where he just has this you know, cold look in

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>his eyes. That is, well, the President of the United

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>States clearly violated the Constitution, and he really looks like

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody out of you know, like American horror story something.

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a creepy guy, and there's no sense of decency

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>or warmth or anything from him. Who votes for Adam

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>ship That's what I really want to know. Well, I

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>just look and stare at the camera and my eyes

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>don't blink, but I want to tell you that this

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>president is the worst human being in the history of

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the planet. You're like, what is this guy doing? But

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>we in the conservative media are forced to continue to

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>cover his nonsense because otherwise the charges just go unanswered,

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>The allegations are able to just linger out there, and

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that's unfair to the president. This stuff is just what

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>a waste, what a waste of time. It is for

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>all involved, whether they realize it or not. But when

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you've decided that government power is something that must be

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>in the hands of the left, it's intrinsic to your

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>sense of well being that you have libs with a

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>lot of power to enact what you think is good

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>for the country. I suppose then all the rest of

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>one's judgment is tainted. And that's what we're seeing, all right,

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I don't want

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to dive too deep. We've already done a lot on

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the Vineman testimony. But this just this caught my eye

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>because one of the media lines about this has been

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>about how you can't question Lieutenant Colonel Vinman because he served. Now,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>having seen what many leftists will say about Dan Crenshaw,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>a wounded veteran who served the Navy Seals having seen

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the way as Sean Davis mentioned that they treated thirty

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 1>years of service from General Flynn and then just calling

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>him a trader because he made a phone call when

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he was national security advisor to a Russian ambassador. Nothing

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>wrong with what he said on that phone call, by

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the way, nothing, but they're calling him a trader. No,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>no problem with that. What I want to throw him

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>in prison. That's how much they respected his military service.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>So we know there's a huge double standard with all this.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>But I would just note that former Congressman Sean Duffy,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>whom I know, and I will say he's a very

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>nice guy. He's a very nice guy. But he he

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>took a job at CNN as a commentator. Now I

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>know what that's like. I worked as a CNN commentator

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years, which was great. It was

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:16.240
<v Speaker 1>being behind enemy lines without anybody really they're knowing, although

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>they figured they knew I was a little conservative. They

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.959
<v Speaker 1>initially hired me at CNN as a mostly a national

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>security analyst. I was doing there. I did a lot

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of terrorism hits. I did hits on terrorism more than

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>anything else. Right, counter terrorism issues because of my time

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in CIASCTC, the counter Terrorism Center as well as the

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>NYPD Intelligence Division working on counterterism cases. But you know

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>who needs the resume right now? You know what I'm saying.

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>But as soon as I became an outspoken conservative during

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen election cycle, and especially once I was

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>willing to support Donald Trump, then all of a sudden,

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>they changed their attitude toward me very markedly. Producers, the hosts.

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I was a bad guy. Now. I wasn't just some

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>curiosity of a you know, kind of prep you loooking

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>x CIA guy that could talk about these things. Now

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it was something else. And then that brings me to

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you're a conservative at CNN. You have

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.479
<v Speaker 1>to remember, this is your career. If you're in the media,

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>right you're trying to build a brand. You're trying to

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>do things that will help you grow recognition an audience

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>over time. That's what a media career is built on.

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And CNN uses that will use that to make you

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>say things you don't really want to say. Usually it's

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>mostly going to have you back off. You know, you

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>can't really argue with someone the way you'd want to

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>because at CNN they will shut you down, they'll tell

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you you're a banned from the show for a while.

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>So I wish Congressman Duffy talked to me before going

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to CNN, because I would have told them. I would

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>have told him that you're not going to be able

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to be there and get treated with respect as a conservative.

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Just get used to that right now. And it isn't.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>It is a Trump destroying organization. That is what it

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>exists to do. And here is Sean Duffy stepping in

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit over at CNN Play twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a he is a he's an advisor to the president. UM.

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 1>He is a former Ukrainian. He wants to make sure

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the taxpayer money goes in military. Eight times where going

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to explain that he came up with Fox. He was

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he's an active duty military member, an American who was

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:30.479
<v Speaker 1>awarded I'm a I'm a virus descent UM. I still

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 1>love the Irish UM and he has an affinity probably

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>for his homeland. That's not my point, though, John. My

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>point is that he gives advice to the president. He

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't set policy. So the president has a lot of

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>advisors who give different opinions in different views, but the

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>president is elected by sixty plus million people to actually

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>implement the policy, and that's exactly what he did. Oh,

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that turned into quite a feeding frenzy, A dual loyalty

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>smear is what that became in the media, in the media,

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and look, it was not It was not a wise

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>place for Congressman Duffy to go because the storyline immediately

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>becomes wounded veteran, which is what Lieutenant Colonel Vinman is

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and and did fight for his country. This just turns

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>into a session where they can club Duffy into submission

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>because I think I know what he was trying to say,

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>but he said it poorly, which is that there was

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a policy difference that that Vinman had. That manifested itself

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>in some of the reaction to Trump's phone call. But

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it is not the place of Lieutenant Colonel Vinman to

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>have a policy difference with the president. To bring in

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>the oh he's from Ukraine thing was unwise, and uh,

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was a bad move. But then I

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>just have to note that CNN, if you're in the

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>family at CNN, if you're a liberal at CNN and

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you say something really stupid, which happens at CNN like

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>every five minutes. But if you say something that they

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>can't even begin to defend, they'll usually put you on ice,

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe somebody else. You know, there'll be some

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>public statement from CNNPR about how, oh we you know,

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.240
<v Speaker 1>we don't approve of what was said, and that person

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 1>has been disciplined or there. They'll be off the air

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>for a week or two, but then they'll then they'll

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>bring you back. What they only do if you're a conservative, though,

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is if you say something dumb on TV, if you

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>say something unwise on TV, then all the different anchors

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 1>because you're conservative, so you're disposable to borrow from Rambo

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>in First Blood Part two. Expendable, I think is the

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>way that he talked about it. Right, You're expendable if

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you're a conservative over at CNN. And that's why Chris

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Cuomo pro Cuomo, you know, trying to be trying to

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>brow out, you know, douse bro stuff. Bro Cuomo over

0:40:55.960 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>at CNN trashed his colleague Duffy in a way that

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>would never happen if Duffy were a Democrat, but as

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>a former Republican congressman, this is what happens at your

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>own network twenty five. Former Congressman Sean Duffy this morning

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>on CNN smeared Vinman is having allegiance to Ukraine and

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:20.240
<v Speaker 1>not to the country that Vineman literally fought and bled

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 1>for the United States. Quote, I don't know that he's

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>concerned about American policy. Getting Ukraine those weapons to beat

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>back the Russians was and is American policy. It was

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.919
<v Speaker 1>passed by the House and the Senate and signed into

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>law by the President. According to someone who knows Vinman,

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>this is someone who never complains about his wounds, but

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>he still walks around with some of the shrapnel in

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 1>his body. This vile dual loyalty smear of an Army

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>colonel comes just days after a different smear of a

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>different decorated war veteran, the smear by President Trump of

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Ambassador Bill Taylor. You see, if you disagree with even

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Bill Taylor, you're a bad person, You're disloyal, and you're

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 1>trashing veterans. Say, look, this is one of the favorite

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 1>liberal things to talk about. Now, Duffy, I'm I'm not

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>saying Duffy didn't mess up. It was a dumb thing

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to say. But when I am telling you, by the way,

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that was not Bro Cuomo, obviously it was. It was

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>wrong on my sheet here. You know, hey, we're doing

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>a show. I'm sometimes we get that was Jake Tapper,

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to get a really mean email

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>telling me I'll never work in this town again. So

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure I get I get it right.

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You make any mistake where Tapper's concerned, and you know

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you're you're in a whole bunch your your career all

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden will be will be threatened. He's a really,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>really lovely fellow. But Bro Cuomo over at CNN is

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody we'll talk about another time. Jake Tapper was the

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>one who I mean, really went after Duffy. The guy

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>works for CNN, no one. They're not giving an effort

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to apologize. They're just trashing him because it's necessary right

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>now for the bit. It's give an opportunity to make

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it right. And I believe Cuomo Walls and there were

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>other anchors as well that if from what I saw

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>on the headlines, went after Duffy for this, but Tapper

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>just tore into him, and poor guy. I'm sure Duffy

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to make money, you know, feed his family.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.240
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to you know, think about some media apportunities.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>He's a I had drinks with a guy in DC.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>He's a really nice dude and a good guy. And

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 1>does anyone think he doesn't like the mility? This is

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the part of this that gets to me. So does

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>anyone think he doesn't respect the military? Of course not.

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Duffy's a patriot. He said he got a little caught

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>up in something, but then they just just just trash him,

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>just just smash him down because he's a Republican. That's

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the way they play the game over there. So I

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>just want to know. This is how things are done

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>in the media environment that we're currently in. And that's

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>why people ask me, who, would you ever go back

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to CNN? Yeah? I would. I would totally go back

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and work for CNN when Jeff Zucker doesn't run it

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and the place is no longer crazy. There we go

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>when it actually tries to be doesn't have to be conservative,

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>it just can't be insane, and to have to put

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a there's I have a hard pass on working at

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>crazy CNN. It's always been liberal, but they used to

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit more sense of decorum and decency

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>about how they treated conservatives. Now the places just turned

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>into a into a cesspool. It's grotesque. But anyway, I

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>feel bad for I feel bad for Davie just because

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>he's working there right now. I'm sure I'll change at

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>some point. Eventually people will realize. I mean, maybe the

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>CNN audience will realize that they're just being fed propaganda

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>under the guise of journalism, which is even worse. The

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 1>inspiration of leaders who are going to put people first

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is so important, and that's going to make people vote.

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Another reason why people are going to vote because Donald

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Trump is manipulate, manipulating the White House and has aligned

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>himself with Ices and Saudi Arabia. I take I have

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to say that that is not true. But the most

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>important thing that we can do today is vote for civility.

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Vote for a president who's night bring aligned himself with

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous foreign nations that are the reason why

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 1>we are had nine to eleven. He's almost like a

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Bond villain who also tells you his whole master plan

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>before he tries to kill you, and he just says

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it out loud and as you say this is going

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to be He's a recruiting sergeant for ISIS, Chris. In

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 1>so many ways. Tony mentioned the whole oil argument, which

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>has obviously been a narrative for a long time. He

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>also is someone who is an islamophobe, which obviously helps

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>groups like ISIS recruit disillusion angry young men from across

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the world, not just from across the Middle East. He's featured,

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 1>He's been featured in ISIS recruiting videos in his Muslim

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>band has definitely been a recruiting ad for ISIS. So

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in many ways he helps quote unquote the enemy. The

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>same week I just want to know, you know, we

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 1>just had that Oh they're they're all, they're all trashing,

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, Duffy. The same week that the President the

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>United States presides over the operation to take out Abubakar

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>bah Daddy, you got people going on TV including that

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 1>was the first lady. There was the Arizona Democratic Party

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>chairman Rotalini saying Trump is aligned with the Islamic State.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there'll be any somber monologue over

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>at CNN or MSNBC about how that's such a slander.

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Trump has aligned himself with ISIS. Yeah, that's right, the

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>president United States, this is a Democratic Party official, folks,

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>is an ally of the group that has killed tens

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of thousands, rapes, mutilates, murders. That's a fair thing to say, right,

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a normal rational thing to say about. So these

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.359
<v Speaker 1>people are out of their minds. And then some guy

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>from the Intercept, which is really just doing the bidding

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of hostile for an intelligence services all the time by

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to take down different elements of United States government.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 1>The the and dis guy from the Intercept called him

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>a recruiting sergeant for ISIS. And now I know that

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>was a rhetorical flourish, but even still, Yeah, Trump, Trump

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the one who escalated the air campagn killing more ISIS

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 1>guys than his predecessor, going after ISIS harder, willing to

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>take the political risk by the way that Obama was

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>not of civilian casualties of an escalated air campaign that

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 1>could have gone awry, Trump was willing to deal with

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>that ISIS gets eradicated, Abu bakh l Blah Daddy is dead.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>And you get people going on TV saying that Trump

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:36.760
<v Speaker 1>is in an ISIS recruiter, where Democratic Party official media

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 1>person anyone. Is that unfair if we're gonna if we're

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be shocked and appalled that any criticism of

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Bill Taylor or vinman two people who both disagree with

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the president on Ukraine policy. Fine, they're allowed to do that,

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I just am allowed to not care.

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>But why is it that calling the commander in chief? Well,

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 1>we know they call him a traitor, a liar, a

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a rapist, a crazy person, a moron. I mean, there's

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing that they haven't said about Trump yet that they

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>thought would be damaging. They hold back in no way whatsoever.

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>So what we are supposed to continue to play the

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>left game here? If you can't criticize whoever they put

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>forward to be the anti Trump voice of the moment,

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 1>you can't criticize. If you criticize them, you're a bad person.

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about criticizing even the ideas. By the way,

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I have no criticism of Taylor, of Vin Menes people.

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know them, and I don't criticize their service

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:39.919
<v Speaker 1>to the country. I don't criticize their aspirations in their

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 1>roles or you know, what they're trying to do day

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to day. I just disagree with what they've done in

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>this instance. But this is a very dishonest way of

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>shutting down debate and discussion by saying, if you, in

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>this case don't like what someone is saying, and that

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>person has done something that's honorable, or they've been a

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>victim of something, or this is how this is how

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the left argues on gun control. Oh, let's put kids

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>from the school where there was the mass shooting out

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.320
<v Speaker 1>there to tell the whole country what the Second Amendment

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>really means. And if you disagree with them, you don't

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.839
<v Speaker 1>care about dead kids. Oh, let's put Greta Thunberg out there,

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and then if you if you disagree with Greta Thunberg,

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>a sixteen year old, he's telling us about how to

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>rearrange trillions of dollars of wealth based on a vastly

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>complicated scientific theory that nobody can really prove. Oh, you're

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>tear your child back. I was called the child basher,

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and I will tell you I have bashed zero children.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I did not bash any kid. That was a lie.

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.840
<v Speaker 1>There are new stories written about this. Oh, these guys,

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 1>right wing pundit child basher. Those people are morons. And

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>now we had we had the same thing with Komey.

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Who thinks that Komy is beyond reproach? Now nobody. Oh,

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>we were told that though as soon as Trump fired him,

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>people were people were crying in the hallways of the FB.

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, James Kobe's not the FBI director anymore.

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I won't shut up to my job, like this is

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>what we're being told. I remember reading the news stories.

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I meanwhile, every person, as I've told you that I

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>know who worked with, call me. It's like, yeah, that

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>guy is a self righteous, sanctimonious weirdo. Sank Tokomi is

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>not cool. No Muller the same thing. If you didn't

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>like the Mueller investigation, you were spitting on his service

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.760
<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam as a marine. That's that's what was being

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>pushed out there by the allies of this thing. You see,

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 1>we can we can never have a fair and open

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>discussion about what is that issue. There's always this effort

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to silence, There's always this effort to shut down opposing

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>voices by using dishonest, unfair tactics. That's what we have

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>here once again, and this is now Unfortunately, this is

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the standard operating procedure for the left. This is not

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a one off. It doesn't just happen occasionally. It's not

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:57.919
<v Speaker 1>once in a while. They put they like to put

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>forward somebody who either has a resume that you are not,

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a resume that is unassailable, or has a

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>victims status that if you challenge them on an issue

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of policy or an issue of fact, you are negating

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>their victims status, and therefore you're a bad person. You're

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>victimizing them all over again. You're a bad person. Media

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>never holds itself to account for this, and it's on

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>yet another reason why one of my favorite things about

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:31.720
<v Speaker 1>President Trump is that he just doesn't cave on this stuff.

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't bend the knee. He doesn't say, oh yeah,

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you're right, I can't say anything about this person. I'm

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to criticize this person. No, Trump will continue

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 1>his critiques. He'll continue fighting back against those who are,

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 1>first of all many cases, attacking him personally, but even

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 1>not attacking him personally, they're opposing his policies. We all

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>know what it's like to have Republican leadership that just

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>takes it, just takes it, you know, Oh yeah, I

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want to I don't want to be nasty in response.

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just going to be quiet about this. I

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>think that one of the promises of the Trump administration,

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:13.760
<v Speaker 1>an implicit promise of the Trump administration, is that leadership

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.879
<v Speaker 1>on the right would no longer sit around and say, yeah, sure,

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever you guys want to do to us, We'll

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>just accept that as the new, as the new status quo,

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>or as the continuation, rather of the status quo, saying

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that's not how things should go. It's not how things

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>would go. This vinmint thing, by the way, will be

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>dropped this week because next week will be another witness,

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and then we got that another witness, and then we

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 1>get that another witness. They're really just hoping to make

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>us say, fine, impeach him, just make this stop, anything

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to make this stop. It's just so boring, it's so worthless.

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>But how do we get around it? Unfortunately, the only

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:52.799
<v Speaker 1>way to get around it is to get through it,

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>to fight through it. Trump knows that, I'm just not

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>always sure that many conservatives do. These days. I start

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to worry about where the right really is on all

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 1>of this. What makes a good manager? What makes a

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>good boss? You know? The number one reason, at least

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>when I used to pay attention to these things, but

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I used to always see this. The number one reason

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that people leave their job is that they're across all industries,

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 1>no matter what you're doing, no matter where you are.

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 1>The number one reason people say, you know what, I

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>just can't do this anymore is they cannot stand their

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>first line manager, essentially the boss that is responsible for them,

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>not the CEO boss, right, the boss that they they're supervisor,

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>They're immediate supervisor. And it makes sense. I remember I

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>worked once in the government and there was someone who

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<v Speaker 1>thought that the best way to get us to do

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>things was to just walk around the office and I

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>mean physically literally poke people from behind, like poke them

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>in the back of the shoulders, say hey, what are

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>you what are you doing? Just all a constant. It

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was the most anxiety producer thing you could imagine in

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>an office environment. I mean it was, hey, hey, what

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? And you look at the person that'd say,

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 1>my job. I think I'm working on a proposal or

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a project or something. Oh. It turns out that people

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>are starting to look at this more because management culture,

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I think does need quite a bit of quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a look especially in large organizations, whether it's

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 1>very hierarchical. The Wall Street Journal had a great, a

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<v Speaker 1>great piece on this today. Bosses get out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And the main thing is how many bosses don't understand

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:48.319
<v Speaker 1>that what they are doing is at best meaningless and

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 1>perhaps counterproductive, but they think they're doing a great job.

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>How many how many of you know exactly what I'm

0:54:56.080 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about. I can tell you that one of the

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 1>bosses that I have had in media at a previous

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<v Speaker 1>company that I no longer work for, really thought that

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 1>just holding meetings was in and of itself a worthwhile endeavor.

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>That you know, if you're serious about what you're doing,

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you got to hold a meeting, even if we all

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>sat there and looked at each other and thought, what

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>is going on here? Why are we having this meetings?

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 1>At this meeting? And it turns out that the reason

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<v Speaker 1>this is getting people to pay more attention. The reason

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 1>people are paying more attention this is that they're doing

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of research that finds out that people are

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<v Speaker 1>productive when the boss just leaves them alone, because your

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:45.640
<v Speaker 1>work product is what will be judged right, Your ability

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to do the job is what matters. But bosses that

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:53.919
<v Speaker 1>hover I even learned a new term from this from

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>this piece today, and I just love it because I've like,

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I've had good Bassett passes. I'd like to go bass fishing. No,

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I've had good bosses, and I've had terrible bosses. I've

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.880
<v Speaker 1>had terrible bosses, and I can tell you that it

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:16.479
<v Speaker 1>does make a real difference management by walking around. I'd

0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>never heard that term before, but it's you know what,

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you those of you who have been in an office

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>environment know that the boss who thinks that they just

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 1>got to just be around, gotta hover, got I just

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 1>make people anxious. That's that's a contribution. Oh, they're helping people.

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 1>They're because you know, they're they're there in case there's

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a question, but also they're making sure that work is

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 1>getting done. I can assure you that most of us

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 1>figure out that the MBWA situation management by walking around

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:43.319
<v Speaker 1>the best way to deal with it is just to

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>always make sure that you have one screen open that's

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 1>work and one screen open that is your Amazon shopping list,

0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and just pay attention to where that boss is. No

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:54.799
<v Speaker 1>one's like, oh, the bosses walking around, better actually do

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>my job now that I wasn't doing before. If anything,

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I think resented resent that the term that we used

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<v Speaker 1>to use when I was in government all the time,

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 1>and it really does convey the irritation from the whole

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:14.879
<v Speaker 1>thing was micro management. Micro mic are just getting into

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that what do you do? What do you do? Where

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Where's let's have a meeting, Let's have

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>another meeting, Let's have a horrible, horrible stuff. In fact,

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:23.919
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons I think I left government work.

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>There are several of them, but one of the reasons

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>was the only way to really rise was to be

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 1>in charge of other people and their work product, to

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:35.280
<v Speaker 1>be a manager. I didn't want to do that. I

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be in charge of what I was doing,

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>judged by my ability to produce, to make things, and

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you know now here I am in the media business

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>as a content person, which is what I wanted to do,

0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to be a make stuff guy, not

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a make sure other people are making stuff guy. Now,

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 1>there is such a thing as fantastic leadership and management

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and a corporate culture. I get that. There's a reason

0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>really good CEOs make a lot of money. There's a

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>reason that people almost worship, you know, Steve Jobs, even

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>though from what I understand. He wasn't a particularly nice

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>guy a lot of the time. But bosses the old

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>culture of the boss that walks around and holds meetings

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 1>bosses or a problem. Oh but management by walking around?

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Here's what it says. Even leaders who use the much

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 1>ballyhooed management practice of walking around, who devote big chunks

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of time to observing frontline work and asking employees to

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>identify problems and solutions, may do more harm than good.

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>You know this guy wrote this piece writes about my

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Stanford colleague Katherine Segovia and I have recruited our students

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to help new managers get out of their employees way.

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>We arrange for student teams to attend meetings led by

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 1>each boss and record the percentage of time that each

0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>leader talked, as well as counting the number of statements

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>each leader made versus the number of questions that he

0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>or she asked. One manager, for example, was surprised to

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 1>learned that he talked almost the entire time during a

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minute meeting and ask only one question, and that

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 1>his team viewed this standing meeting as a complete waste

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of time. This information, along with some coaching from our

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 1>students helped this new boss learn and ask more questions

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>as people appreciated. Yeah, a lot of unnecessary meetings going

0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 1>on in American corporate culture. A lot of focus on

0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 1>process over outcomes. Outcomes are what matters. Right. Outcomes is

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 1>what brings dollars in, what sends dollars. Out Outcome is

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>what the focus should always be in a corporate environment.

0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And I just think that I wish that there had

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 1>been better management instruction, particularly, I'll be the most of

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the government managers I dealt with were almost buffoonish in

0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 1>their incompetence, most of them, not all of them, But

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I remember I worked in the federal government as well

0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:01.920
<v Speaker 1>as local government here in New York City for the NYPD.

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 1>My NYPD second line manager was a pretty good guy.

1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>My first line manager was a nightmare, a micromanaging, poke

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you in the shoulder, what are you doing? Why isn't

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:20.760
<v Speaker 1>this finished? Where is this thing? Nightmare? And I'm somebody

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 1>who just as a general, I'm just not a bend

1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of the knee kind of guy. I just don't like

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:31.280
<v Speaker 1>it when somebody is being unreasonable and trying to make

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 1>my life more difficult. It has to be, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to be the kind of person who, in

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<v Speaker 1>that corporate environment would then find ways to do things

1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:45.720
<v Speaker 1>my way and extend a particular digit of my left

1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>or right hand in the general direction of management. I

1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:53.520
<v Speaker 1>was not a good person at dealing with that, with

1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that micromanaging culture, and that then brings me in another

1:00:58.080 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 1>part of this piece, the Wall Street, which I just

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 1>think is great. I'm trying. I'm let me tell you

1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:03.600
<v Speaker 1>who the authors were, just to give them credit for this. Bosses,

1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:06.360
<v Speaker 1>get out of your employees way. As the piece Robert Sutton,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the one who wrote it. He writes about flexing

1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy. Here's another one. Another hallmark of skilled leaders

1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that they understand that they're people and work they do

1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:19.400
<v Speaker 1>so well that they are masters of flexing the hierarchy

1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to fit the situation. Lendrid Greer, a management professor at

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Michigan, finds that the best leaders don't

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<v Speaker 1>hesitate to exert top down control when quick decisions and

1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:33.720
<v Speaker 1>immediate actions are essential, and they switch gears and flatten

1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:37.800
<v Speaker 1>hierarchy when they need to solicit everyone's opinion, develop employee

1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:40.400
<v Speaker 1>buy in, and make it safe to discuss and comfortable truths,

1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:46.920
<v Speaker 1>criticize others, and generate half baked and controversial solutions. I

1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:51.160
<v Speaker 1>can tell you that very I dealt with a one

1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of the more senior managers they dealt with down in

1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:57.960
<v Speaker 1>DC working on the Hill TV project, had a habit,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were several of them, so I'm not named

1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:03.280
<v Speaker 1>name here, but had had a habit of We're just

1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:04.920
<v Speaker 1>going to do it because I say we're gonna do it.

1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:06.480
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do it this way because I say we're

1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:09.120
<v Speaker 1>going to do it this way. And his approach was

1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 1>such that even on minor issues where it was really

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<v Speaker 1>a judgment call, that it wasn't important and there's no

1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:20.880
<v Speaker 1>right answer but to do the because I say so

1:02:21.120 --> 1:02:24.400
<v Speaker 1>routine when you're not dealing with a toddler, when you're

1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in an office of adults, in fact, in this case,

1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:27.720
<v Speaker 1>adults who kind of knew a lot more than this

1:02:27.800 --> 1:02:32.480
<v Speaker 1>person about what was going on. That does not do

1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:35.160
<v Speaker 1>good things for outcomes or for morale, which is another

1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:37.400
<v Speaker 1>part of this too. Right management is about what the

1:02:37.520 --> 1:02:39.520
<v Speaker 1>end product is, or whatever the company is, whatever the

1:02:39.560 --> 1:02:42.320
<v Speaker 1>service is they're providing, of course, but it's also about

1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:45.280
<v Speaker 1>how do people feel in that office environment and I've

1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:48.960
<v Speaker 1>seen I've seen it where it's spree to corps is high.

1:02:49.000 --> 1:02:50.680
<v Speaker 1>And when a spree to core is high, people don't

1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:52.439
<v Speaker 1>have to stay they have to. They don't be told

1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to stay late, they don't have to be told to

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<v Speaker 1>get things done on time or to show up on time,

1:02:56.760 --> 1:03:00.360
<v Speaker 1>or they do it because they're proud of what's going on.

1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll tell you this. In my Rock Office

1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of the CIA, we had we had a spree of

1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:08.280
<v Speaker 1>corps in that office, man, I mean, we were we

1:03:08.280 --> 1:03:11.800
<v Speaker 1>were focused, We had good management, people cared about what

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing. Um, there was a really healthy sense

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<v Speaker 1>of competition for who was doing the most to help

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<v Speaker 1>on the policy side, on the on the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the supporting the warfighter side, whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>And that just reflected all the way down. We wore

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we dressed up in the sense we

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<v Speaker 1>wore suits even though we didn't have to, because like

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<v Speaker 1>we wore suits because we were the we're a war office,

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<v Speaker 1>and damn it, it it was serious stuff, you know we

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<v Speaker 1>And that was just the culture of that office. And I,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I went to the NYPD, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a very very different culture because I was dealing on

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<v Speaker 1>the civilian side there, but flexing the hierarchy is also

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<v Speaker 1>so important. Don't do the because I said so unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're the lack of an immediate decision is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have real ramifications, you know, unless the lack of an

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<v Speaker 1>IMMO immediate change in direction for the company is going

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, allow people to be heard, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>just shut things down or talk over them because you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Another another big mistake that I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>managers run into is they just get lazy with it,

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, all right, like we're done. When I

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<v Speaker 1>say we're done, I don't care what other people say.

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<v Speaker 1>Managing people is one of the most important skills you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have in any work environment. And really life

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<v Speaker 1>is all about managing people. Your personal life, your professional life.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with other human beings? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>bring out better things in them? Do they feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>around you? Do they trust you or not? It's true

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<v Speaker 1>of managers, true of family members, true of everybody. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you dealing with those around you? So don't

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<v Speaker 1>do management by walking around. Don't just sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>poke people on the shoulder and say what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Drive them crazy, drove me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a good boss. You need the money and to

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<v Speaker 1>get the money we need to stop. Because Jonathan's got

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<v Speaker 1>a vision which I agree with. But in order to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for that, we need the money and to get

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<v Speaker 1>the money in we need to stop. Brexcent or two

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<v Speaker 1>percent of GDP isn't going to make a difference. Let

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<v Speaker 1>Maria speak, Man's climate change is You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are describing Jeremy Corbyn as business as usual, then you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been reading the newspapers or watching the television. He

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<v Speaker 1>was green before the Greens existed. He rode a bike.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gotten a lootman. He will do both. He will

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<v Speaker 1>bring social justice and a green revolution. So have the

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<v Speaker 1>vision on the Greens, but vote Labor if you really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have got to be more than a lootman.

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<v Speaker 1>And lets us look at the facts. In twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>man splaining, and Adam Hans asked me to respond, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you continue to mansplain, I'll have to complain. Please

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<v Speaker 1>don't resort to sexism when we're trying to have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you stop man splaining? I've asked you three times,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh can you stop man splaining? Please? Could you stop

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<v Speaker 1>the man splaining poor guys like nanny? That was very

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<v Speaker 1>a TV interview. I don't even care whether they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Brexit, I think, or core a bit or who

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<v Speaker 1>cares British politics whatever. It's not something I really care

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<v Speaker 1>very much about. I don't care at all. Really, I

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<v Speaker 1>care only as much as I need to care so

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<v Speaker 1>that I can inform you all with the facts. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's like, stop man splaining. What you do? Will

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<v Speaker 1>you man splaining again? For what's that all about? Just

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play well, just because I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was so funny. This reminds me of when the former

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<v Speaker 1>governor of Michigan, Grand Holme, looked at me on the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Marshaw and went kids in cages, kids in cages?

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<v Speaker 1>Out of nowhere, Like, lady, I didn't put any kids

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<v Speaker 1>in cages. Like what do you even We're not even

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. She's like, Mic, drop kids in cages here.

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<v Speaker 1>We had another version of just say something, say some

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<v Speaker 1>stupid slogan to somebody you're having a political debate with,

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<v Speaker 1>and then hope that no one calls you out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop stop your man splaining. I want to know, is

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<v Speaker 1>it is it? Man? Splaining just for a man to

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<v Speaker 1>try to explain something now. And also it's worth noting

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<v Speaker 1>that the Brits have a similar language now about some

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<v Speaker 1>of these political issues like social justice. Jeremy Corbyn was

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<v Speaker 1>green before there was green. He was riding his bicycle

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that the Coeo two that was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming out there. It's like it's you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like the sea. It's not like the methane coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of cowbums. You know what I mean? Uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they have the same stuff going on over there that

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<v Speaker 1>we do. You've got to stop the cow bum farts.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to stop it. It's important. It's gonna save

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. All of a sudden, I've started to switch

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<v Speaker 1>over and all the snow accent from what's that Forgetting

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Marshall. That's He's great. I was going to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to your tape, but I decided to just go on

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<v Speaker 1>living my life. He's the best part of that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>In many ways. I did not like Get him to

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<v Speaker 1>the Greek at all, though the Falling movie did not

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<v Speaker 1>think that was good. You like get him. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if we're allowed we're gonna allow you to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in anymore on anything you like that movie that

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<v Speaker 1>I love, Get Him to the Greek. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fantastic. I love Jonah Hill. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what to say. Now. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people like Forgetting Sarah Cors. Okay, well, there we

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<v Speaker 1>can agree on that. It's a very good movie. But

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<v Speaker 1>while I just want to know why it's producing Mark

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<v Speaker 1>man splaining. He's just sitting there man splaining away, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, but I'm trying to do a radio show

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<v Speaker 1>her producer, Mark, why can't you stop man splaining? I

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<v Speaker 1>have to man explain to you that Get Him to

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<v Speaker 1>the Greek was a good movie. Apparently, I'm wondering who

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<v Speaker 1>the audience is with on this one. Light it up

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<v Speaker 1>in those comments. Let us so Get in the Greek.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was depressing. It's like sad at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have like a cheats on his wife or something?

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<v Speaker 1>It's bad he married real life with Russell Brand and

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Perry married in real life. They were oh they

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<v Speaker 1>will yeah, no, no, I'm in Jonah Hill. Isn't he

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<v Speaker 1>like cheating on his wife or something in the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I forget now, oh, spoilers. I am

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about the Joker spoiler that I didn't know. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it in I didn't know any better, so we

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<v Speaker 1>had a little bit of a Joker spoiler going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>It is what it is, um, But anyway, man's plaining

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<v Speaker 1>is a thing now, man spreading, which I try to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid doing on the subway. Are you familiar with man spreading?

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<v Speaker 1>You sit down on the subway? Yeah, of course, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I never do. You don't sit on the subway. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you like a germ, germaphol or something. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think though. I don't think the cold virus

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna get like, you know, through your pants, into

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<v Speaker 1>your into your thing. I'm also lonely on the subway

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<v Speaker 1>for like four stops, so you're one of those. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nice. I have kind of a long subway ride

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Oh yeah, ten whole minutes. Your whole commune

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<v Speaker 1>is ten minutes. Boo hoo, look at this. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. You know, I'm a man of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>I ride the subway. What can I tell your commune

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<v Speaker 1>is ten minutes? Here? You still show up late? I

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<v Speaker 1>reas don't produce the mark the show begins when the

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<v Speaker 1>host arrives. He's like, no, technically, we have studio time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know about this studio time

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we're supposed to be discussing. But yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are clocks and there is a time we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do the show. But I think the show happens

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<v Speaker 1>when Buck starts talking to the team. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about the deep state efforts to subvert

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<v Speaker 1>this president for a long time, but there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more information that we need to get and there's

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<v Speaker 1>more analysis that we need to know, especially as we're

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<v Speaker 1>going into an election year. There's a fantastic new book

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<v Speaker 1>out from investigative journalist and author Lee Smith, The Plot

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<v Speaker 1>Against the President, The true story of how Congressman Devin

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<v Speaker 1>un has uncovered the biggest political scandal in US history.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee joins us Now, Lee, thanks so much, Ben It congrats.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the President tweeted about how great your book is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very exciting, the President tweeted about the book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a number one bestseller on Amazon, the number

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<v Speaker 1>one and number one on Barnes and Nobles. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>very very exciting, and it's no it's testament to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>understands the historic importance of the world that Congressman Nunez

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<v Speaker 1>and his team did investigating the FBI investigator. Now, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of news coverage. I've talked to people.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even I couldn't even begin to count the

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<v Speaker 1>hours in the days we've spent on this Russia collusion hoax,

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<v Speaker 1>and some good books written about it. My friend Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Bongino as a book about it. I mean, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you focusing on in the plot against the president? And

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<v Speaker 1>what do people need to know that they may not

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<v Speaker 1>already know right well, I wanted to tell I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the story, explain what happened through the perspective

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<v Speaker 1>of Congressman Nunez and his team, some of them, some

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<v Speaker 1>of their names that haven't really been reported that much before,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of his leading investigators, a gentleman named kesh

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<v Speaker 1>Yet Petel, who's a very fascinating character. And as the Congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman said and I recorded in the book, without cash,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be able to they would not have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to do all the things they got done. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's remarkable what I found reporting the book with them

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<v Speaker 1>speaking extensively with the Congressman, with mister Petel, with mister

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Langer, who's Congressman nun as his communications director. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys were standing in the middle of Mayhem and they

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<v Speaker 1>were actually the only thing for a while between between

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<v Speaker 1>between Trump and impeachment. They were the ones who they

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<v Speaker 1>were the only ones who are running an offense. This

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<v Speaker 1>was while Jess Sessions was the Attorney General and he

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<v Speaker 1>had recused himself. So had Congressman Nunez and his guys

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<v Speaker 1>not found stuff, not requested documents, not asked for different things,

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<v Speaker 1>not made their case on TV, we might be in

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<v Speaker 1>a very different situation right now where where the where

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<v Speaker 1>these deep state operatives might have actually taken down the president.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of things did they find out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in that you said they were able to go on

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<v Speaker 1>offense and not just allow the Democrat anti Trump coup

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<v Speaker 1>to play out. What were some of the big eureka

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<v Speaker 1>moments that they had. Well, the first thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>found I was at the Clinton campaign had paid for

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<v Speaker 1>the dossier. That was the first big thing they found out.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing that they found out, and another thing they

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<v Speaker 1>found out was how assistant Deputy Attorney General Bruce Orr,

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<v Speaker 1>who had no business participating in this investigation, was actually

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<v Speaker 1>not only a part of the investigation the FBI's investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>he was also former British spy Christopher Steele's back channel

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<v Speaker 1>to the FBI. After Steele had been fired by the

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau for speaking to the press. Bruce Or, whose wife

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<v Speaker 1>Nelly worked for Fusion GPS, was the back channel to

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI. So they found that they also got they

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<v Speaker 1>were also the ones and that was the Inspector General

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<v Speaker 1>who located the texts between FBI agent Peter Struck and

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend FBI lawyer Lisa Page. There was the Inspector

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<v Speaker 1>General who found that, and then the Special Counsel Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Muller reassigned Struck. But it was Noonez and his guys

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<v Speaker 1>who found out what had been going on, and they requested,

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<v Speaker 1>they demanded these documents, these texts, and which were eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>after many long and arduous fights, delivered delivered to the Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, they really when you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>we know about the Russia investigations, the abuses and likely

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<v Speaker 1>crimes committed during the FBI's investigation of Donald Trump, that

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<v Speaker 1>was they who found it. The most important thing of

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<v Speaker 1>course they found was the fact that the Clinton campaign's

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<v Speaker 1>opposition research was the centerpiece and the FBI's portfolio of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to obtain a warrant to spy on Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 1>advisor Carter Page, which of course opened up the communications

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<v Speaker 1>for the entire Trump team. Basically, one of the important

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<v Speaker 1>cases that my book makes is that what happened here

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<v Speaker 1>is we often forget who was the primary beneficiary of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI spying on the Trump campaign. They weren't just

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<v Speaker 1>spying to amuse themselves and to torture Trump and as advisors.

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<v Speaker 1>The primary beneficiary of the FBI's work, the FBI's operation

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<v Speaker 1>anti Trump operation was the Hillary Clinton campaign. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned some of the abuses and possible illegality. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest abuses that you get into in the book

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<v Speaker 1>that we know happened, and what are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that you think, you know, the evidence points toward happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but we need to find out more about. Yeah, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we need to find out more about,

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<v Speaker 1>and I cite certain documents in my book that I acquired,

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the things we need to find

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<v Speaker 1>out is, well, the case I make is that Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Steele did not write where he was certainly anything but

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<v Speaker 1>the primary author of the dossier named after him. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>found is they were actually doing opposition research investigating the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump team's possible ties to organized crime. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>document dated May twentieth, twenty sixteen, and that shows that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they were doing, Fusion GPS investigating the Trump teams

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<v Speaker 1>ties to organized crime. Within a month when they say

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<v Speaker 1>they bring on Christopher Steele, the first Steel report that

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<v Speaker 1>is written is June twentieth. At that point, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>profound transformation. It goes from an opposition research regarding Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>ties to alleged tized organized crime to Trump's alleged ties

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<v Speaker 1>to a foreign power. This lays the groundwork for a

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<v Speaker 1>counter intelligence investigation. So one of the questions that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to ask is not when the FBI got the dossier,

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<v Speaker 1>not when they started looking. As you know, Buck, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of controversy whether they got it in July

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<v Speaker 1>or whether they got in September as they say. For

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<v Speaker 1>the cover story. The question is whether or not the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI wrote the dossier or directed the dossier said that

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<v Speaker 1>it would help them obtain a surveillance warrant, a spy

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<v Speaker 1>warrant on Carter page. That's an enormous question that comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Ah, So you think that there's the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that you know, because what we've been led to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>at least to this point, is that the dossier was

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<v Speaker 1>taken in good faith by the FBI and then given

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<v Speaker 1>to the fiser Chord. What you're saying is, what if

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI was going back through Christopher Steele. We already

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<v Speaker 1>established Bruce Ordo Jay talking to Steele and saying get this,

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<v Speaker 1>get this, and an active participant in that dossier process,

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<v Speaker 1>and then turned around and acted like it was just

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<v Speaker 1>this external intelligence source that they had in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get FISE warrants. Is that am I on target the evidence?

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<v Speaker 1>And my book points to that. That's certainly question that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have, that we need to have very

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<v Speaker 1>solid answers about. But again, if you if you I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Fusion GPS, the researcher Melior made these claims they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing opposition research into Trump's ties to organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>That Steel Dassier has nothing to do with Russian organized crime,

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<v Speaker 1>that has to do with the Trump teams ties alleged

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump teams alleged tie to a foreign power. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a counter that's a counter intelligence matter. So these are

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<v Speaker 1>two very different things. And the idea, someone showed them

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<v Speaker 1>how to do it, showed them what they needed to write,

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<v Speaker 1>what they needed to claim in order to push toward

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<v Speaker 1>a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant to monitor the communications

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump advisor Carter Page. This is an enormous issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is one of the This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the main takeaways from from my book. Now we're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to Lee Smith, author of The Plot Against the President,

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<v Speaker 1>the true story of how Congressman Devenue has uncovered the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest political scandal in US history. Lee, Where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the plot is not over yet, right this, this story

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<v Speaker 1>has not ended yet. Where do you see this going

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<v Speaker 1>and what else do you want to focus on and

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<v Speaker 1>find out about? Right Well, I mean, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what the dossier is and what we've been going

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<v Speaker 1>through for three years and what we see right now,

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<v Speaker 1>would would the House Democrats pushing for impeachment? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's a terrible thing that happened. The

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton campaign injected a conspiracy theory into the American public sphere,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost as though it's almost as though the Clinton's

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton, cursed America because they didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>She decided she would inject the conspiracy theory and the

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<v Speaker 1>eat it there. And now at the very least our

1:20:02.560 --> 1:20:05.080
<v Speaker 1>elite have not mad. You can't help but turn on

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<v Speaker 1>CNN or read the pages of the Washington Post or

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<v Speaker 1>Sea House Democrats like a bizarre like a bizarre cult,

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of ascurantists going on. First it's Trump

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia, and now it's Trump in Ukraine. But for

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi or the High Priestess Nancy Pelosi, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. All reads, all roads leads of Vladimir Putin?

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<v Speaker 1>It's madness. Do I think Trump will get impeached? This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I hear from much more, much more informed sources.

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<v Speaker 1>The realistic damage, however, done by the dossier and done

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<v Speaker 1>by the Russia operation is not only to American institutions

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<v Speaker 1>like the FBI, the dj likely, the CIA, and the

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<v Speaker 1>US press, but it's to America as a whole, the

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<v Speaker 1>public sphere, the way we speak with each other, the

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<v Speaker 1>way we conduct our politics, the way we live next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other and get along with each other. This

1:20:59.439 --> 1:21:02.519
<v Speaker 1>thing has driven the country mad. My book is an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to get to the bottom of what happened, to

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<v Speaker 1>try to clarify some points so that someday and the hope,

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<v Speaker 1>the lunacy that was kicked off by the FBI's Russia

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<v Speaker 1>investigation will come to an end and we can go

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<v Speaker 1>back to normal politics, have our debates, our partisan debates

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<v Speaker 1>between Republican and Democrat. We can do our regular politics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not where we are as a country right now.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as President Trump is doing and as much

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<v Speaker 1>as he's succeeded, we are not in a healthy place

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<v Speaker 1>right now. The book is the plot against the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Author at Lee Smith lead, great workman, congrats to you

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<v Speaker 1>so far. Thank you, Buck, thanks very thanks very kindly,

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<v Speaker 1>and please come back and tell us when you get more.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I look forward to it. Thanks again for

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<v Speaker 1>writing me on to talk all right. Take care. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and we are back here in the Freedom Hunt with

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<v Speaker 1>the man himself, my fellow, the first host, mister Jess Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>joins in on this action now. Jesse Kelly, everybody, Thanks Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? I prefer to call myself the legend Buck,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean if you whatever the man works, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I think we could do that. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can start just refer to as the legend Jesse Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>That would that would work. What's what's on the Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Rado right now? I mean, I know you got

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<v Speaker 1>your show coming up. What are you gonna be talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's top of mind? Well, we're gonna go over

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<v Speaker 1>this Vindmin thing today and just exactly what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>It trives me crazy when they do this, Buck, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've seen this before. I know you've actually

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<v Speaker 1>personally experienced this before. Is when they take anybody a veteran,

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<v Speaker 1>a child, or anybody who's carrying their approved message and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden act like they actually care

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<v Speaker 1>about that person's thing. You know what I mean, Nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody who praised Vinemin yesterday gave a crap about Vindmon

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<v Speaker 1>or his rank or his purple heart or anything. You

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<v Speaker 1>had the approved message. So now all of a stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can't criticize Zoom he's a veteran. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The Left never obeys those rules for me. They never

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<v Speaker 1>obeyed those rules for you. I wonder why. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I look, I was when. I remember when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the CIA, the left would crash the intelligence community

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I mean, when the Bush administration was

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<v Speaker 1>in charge, intel community would just get the worst and

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<v Speaker 1>the worst from all the major media outlets. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the era of Trump, when there are some intel people

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously hate trumpets, how dare you? These aren't bureaucrats,

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<v Speaker 1>these are honorable public servants, sir. That's so classic. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. It's so true and scared, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they do this all the time. This is just example

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<v Speaker 1>number one thousand. I but you remember it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago we were all going to die

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<v Speaker 1>in twelve years because a sixteen year old girl said

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<v Speaker 1>we were. And just because she wants to destroy the

1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>country's economy in your way of life, that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>you have the right to criticize her. She's just a charlad.

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<v Speaker 1>You get called a child basher because I got called

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<v Speaker 1>in media publications a child basher. I'd't even criticize her.

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<v Speaker 1>I criticized the stupid adults who listened to her. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. They called me every name in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did the same thing, you, dude, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>criticize her just because she's the sixteen year old girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't listen to sixteen year old girls when I

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<v Speaker 1>was sixteen, let alone now. But it's just all the

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<v Speaker 1>people acting like she's some kind of Nobel Peace Prize winner.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have to go back across the Atlantic. There

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<v Speaker 1>were there were professional journalists who were expressing their disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it was the I forget it was

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<v Speaker 1>the president. The Prime Minister of Era Trea got it

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<v Speaker 1>for helping to end the conflict between Era Trade Ethiopia

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, or maybe it was the president

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<v Speaker 1>of Ethiopia. I forget one of those two countries. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been in confid long time. Point big. That's real stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But that individual got the of a peace prize and

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<v Speaker 1>not sixteen year old Thunberg. And there were journalists who

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<v Speaker 1>at least theoretically make a living from knowing about things,

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<v Speaker 1>who were like, what an injustice? Yes, yes, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we can all put that to bed now, right though, buck.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that concept that that journalists make a

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<v Speaker 1>living by knowing things. Journalists today make a living by creating,

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<v Speaker 1>completely manufacturing outrage from thin air. And that's that's what

1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>they do when you wake up that morning. You work

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<v Speaker 1>for this jerkwater publication. Okay, what anti truck piece are

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<v Speaker 1>you writing today? Oh well, there's nothing in the news.

1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I better just invent something. And then the next guy

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<v Speaker 1>write does something about the same thing, and on and

1:25:22.040 --> 1:25:24.439
<v Speaker 1>on it goes. And that's why we've had three years

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<v Speaker 1>of fake crap. Now, Jesse, if I had to, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get an answer from you on this,

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<v Speaker 1>which is worse MSNBC or CNN, you know what, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what's worse, and it's actually neither of their fault.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say CNN is worse, but only because of

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<v Speaker 1>this book. There was a time in this country. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue with we've never been there with these

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<v Speaker 1>major networks. There was a time in this country where

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<v Speaker 1>CNN was thought of to be the middle of the road.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you had fives who stopped me right. You

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<v Speaker 1>have MSNBC, who's always thought to be left, and neither

1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>of those companies have really made any apologies for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know CNN is the one down the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's what's in every airport and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>CNN is way left of MSNBC anymore. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>way left there. They're slight in digital form. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they've turned into a hate Trump network specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's personal from Jeff Zucker on down. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the videos. I think that the mandate from Zucker

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<v Speaker 1>is We're we're gonna We're gonna stop Trump. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>end the Trump presidency. There's no question about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't realize how much they actually aid the Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>If they could, if they could set aside that hate

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute and actually watch half these compilation videos

1:26:36.800 --> 1:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that Trump puts out online that everybody loves in their

1:26:39.520 --> 1:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>chair and in his base loves. They contain segments from CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not they're not hurting Trump, they're writing his campaign

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<v Speaker 1>material for it. Thin It's true. Where can folks go

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<v Speaker 1>to watch and see Jesse Kelly, Oh, that's right, the

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<v Speaker 1>same place they can see the first which is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing too, which is channel two forty eight on

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<v Speaker 1>Pluto TV. Jesse. One last question we've got about a

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<v Speaker 1>middle Left. Is the first the single greatest new platform

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<v Speaker 1>in conservative media and perhaps of all time. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>early stage. I think the answer is yes, Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no question. I mean it's you and I on there. Buck.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's the greatest of all time. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest new it's the greatest now and it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest for the until the end of time. Fact check.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent pure awesome. You're the Buck Saccent Show,

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<v Speaker 1>The Jesse Kelly Show. There is no fat on this stake.

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<v Speaker 1>It is all just deliciousness. Good my brother, all right, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much. Man. Guys, check out Jesse Kelly on

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<v Speaker 1>the first jump to forty eight's where some of you

1:27:33.520 --> 1:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>are watching this now. Also, if you're listening on a

1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>radio down KPRC Houston, I think he's on seven Eastern.

1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, Jesse Kelly. We like to just

1:27:41.640 --> 1:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>get a Jesse Jesse, you know, pop by stop in

1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever we can. Don't tell him. I said this,

1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>he's one of the most talented guys in the game

1:27:50.240 --> 1:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>these days. So but don't his ego is big enough,

1:27:52.920 --> 1:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>trust me. Let's talk about some crazy Democrat ideas, shall we.

1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:57.559
<v Speaker 1>We didn't get to any of that today. I'm always

1:27:57.560 --> 1:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>discussing policy here on the show, and I feel like

1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>today we skipped past policy. What is the worst idea

1:28:05.240 --> 1:28:07.559
<v Speaker 1>that a Democrat has put forward in the last twenty

1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:11.479
<v Speaker 1>four hours, or what is the most buffoonish policy mistake

1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that they have made. That's usually a tough question. It's

1:28:13.840 --> 1:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of entrance into that race. There's a lot

1:28:15.880 --> 1:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of different directions you could go. And by the way,

1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>is this weekend the marathon here in New York? It is,

1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>right anyway, I might I might go check that out.

1:28:24.240 --> 1:28:26.439
<v Speaker 1>It's fun to be the guy who I was gonna

1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>talk policy and I'm talking about the marathon. But it's

1:28:28.000 --> 1:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>fun to go stand by the finish line or like

1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:34.519
<v Speaker 1>about a mile from the finish line. Yeah, it is

1:28:34.560 --> 1:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. Yes, what I thought, stand by a mouth

1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>from the finish line, because people sometimes will wear their

1:28:39.320 --> 1:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>name on their shirt and then you can just be like,

1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that's right, dude, keep it, run it, keep it going.

1:28:46.439 --> 1:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>You just yell at everybody else. You just cheer people on.

1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of fun, especially when you see the

1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:53.559
<v Speaker 1>guys who are really like it looks like guys en galis,

1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>look like there might there might fall over at any moment.

1:28:56.000 --> 1:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You're like, come on, deep, deep, you don't even know

1:28:59.280 --> 1:29:01.479
<v Speaker 1>these people. You just it's great. It's great energy. I'll

1:29:01.479 --> 1:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>love it. And then there's the amazing and also slightly

1:29:05.439 --> 1:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>depressing feat of watching the truly elite runners who are

1:29:08.960 --> 1:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>on their twenty fifth mile, or if you want to

1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>watch the finish line and they're running twenty six miles

1:29:14.240 --> 1:29:17.439
<v Speaker 1>faster than you or anyone you know could run one mile,

1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>or in fact that most people could run a hundred yards. Yeah,

1:29:22.280 --> 1:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that's something. You see those guys in Galus just flying

1:29:26.439 --> 1:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>past you. It's pretty amazing. All right, back to policy.

1:29:29.280 --> 1:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I just got exciting. Remember the marathon was this weekend.

1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>We have Oh, here we go? How do you pay?

1:29:38.080 --> 1:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Pete? He's supposed to be the serious, sober minded one, right,

1:29:41.800 --> 1:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>He's not one of these crazy radicals. He's a Rhodes scholar,

1:29:45.120 --> 1:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>he was in the military. How crazy could he possibly be? Well,

1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>as I discussed with you yesterday, a non partisan analysis

1:29:52.160 --> 1:29:54.599
<v Speaker 1>of Medicare for All makes it clear that they simply

1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:57.559
<v Speaker 1>don't have the money to pay for Medicare for all,

1:29:58.280 --> 1:30:00.439
<v Speaker 1>and the only ways to pay for it would involve

1:30:00.960 --> 1:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>massive tax increases, I mean, mind blowing tax increases on everybody,

1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>not just on the rich. Then rich don't have enough

1:30:08.360 --> 1:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>money to pay for this, So how does mayor peate

1:30:13.479 --> 1:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>deal with that reality. Well, he says that, oh, let's

1:30:17.800 --> 1:30:21.439
<v Speaker 1>let the mayor have his say seventeen please, So the

1:30:21.600 --> 1:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>vast majority the costs of my plan can be covered

1:30:24.080 --> 1:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>by rolling back these unnecessary Trump corporate tax cuts that

1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>went mainly to the wealthy. That'll cover all but about

1:30:32.040 --> 1:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>one hundred billion dollars of our plan. You might say

1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>one hundred billion dollars sounds like a lot, and you're right,

1:30:37.479 --> 1:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>but we have a plan to cover that. Part two,

1:30:39.560 --> 1:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that's where our prescription drug plan comes in. So I

1:30:42.000 --> 1:30:44.599
<v Speaker 1>got a plan to make sure that prescription drugs become

1:30:44.640 --> 1:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>more affordable in this country. A big part of that

1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>is allowing the federal government and Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

1:30:52.280 --> 1:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>And independent estimates of these kinds of policies suggest that

1:30:56.640 --> 1:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>we should be able to raise probably two or three

1:30:59.800 --> 1:31:03.679
<v Speaker 1>hundred billion actually in savings to the treasury by moving

1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>in that direction over the next decade. So we're talking

1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:09.839
<v Speaker 1>about something that not only makes a sense for American

1:31:09.880 --> 1:31:13.759
<v Speaker 1>consumers that we have a savings individually, but also saves

1:31:13.800 --> 1:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>money for the taxpayer as a whole. And some of

1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>those savings can be applied to carry the part of

1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the cost of Medicare for all. Who this is just unserious.

1:31:21.479 --> 1:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's just no way that this is true.

1:31:23.600 --> 1:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>None of this, none of this can work Medicare for

1:31:25.920 --> 1:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>all if you're gonna if you're going to take the

1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>existing Medicare program, which is not even as rich in

1:31:30.200 --> 1:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>benefits and on all the rest of it as what

1:31:33.880 --> 1:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Bernie Sanders, for example, and Elizabeth Warrener suggesting we adopt.

1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But you're gonna save. Now, it's not just we're gonna

1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>pay for it, We're going to save the treasury money.

1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Come on, folks, at what point is it just incumbent

1:31:46.320 --> 1:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>upon voters to not be dumb government's They're going to

1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:55.479
<v Speaker 1>give a massive expansion of this single part of the

1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>federal budget that is the most problematic for spending this

1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to oblivion. Medicare. That's the single that's the one thing

1:32:03.960 --> 1:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that we cannot continue at our current rate without major

1:32:08.200 --> 1:32:11.639
<v Speaker 1>financial consequences, negative consequences in the future. We're gonna take

1:32:11.640 --> 1:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that one thing, We're gonna make it much bigger, and

1:32:15.040 --> 1:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna save money. Keep saying it. This is the

1:32:20.600 --> 1:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>This is the jelly donuts that are free that you

1:32:24.640 --> 1:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>can eat as much as you want, You'll never run

1:32:26.960 --> 1:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>out and we'll never make you fat. Do those jelly

1:32:31.040 --> 1:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>donuts exist? Everybody? If I told you that I could

1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>give you a dozen jelly donuts? By the way, do

1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>we producer mark? Are we? Are we jelly donut in

1:32:37.760 --> 1:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>this place? Are we? Are we French Cruller? Are we

1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Boston Cream? What is? In fact? I'm a chocolate guy.

1:32:43.360 --> 1:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Just chocolate straight through. Yeah, I'm a chocolate glaze. Maybe

1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a little chocolate cream on top, maybe a chocolate stuffed

1:32:49.040 --> 1:32:54.559
<v Speaker 1>respect acceptable answers, specifically crispy cream, chocolate cake. The best

1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:57.519
<v Speaker 1>donut you can get? Is it from Dunkin Donuts? Or

1:32:57.680 --> 1:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>is it, in fact from that place in Canada that

1:33:01.360 --> 1:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it's called, Tim Hortons. Yeah, I've

1:33:03.800 --> 1:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>never had a Tim Hortons. Because you're an American? Yeah,

1:33:06.080 --> 1:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>because he loves America. Okay. But so the jelly donuts

1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're eating, guess what, There are calories. They cost money,

1:33:12.200 --> 1:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and they're not endless the and you and you know

1:33:15.040 --> 1:33:16.639
<v Speaker 1>that without me having to explain that to you. It's

1:33:16.640 --> 1:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>like if I presented you with my endless jelly donuts

1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that cost you nothing and that won't make you fat,

1:33:21.080 --> 1:33:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you'd say, buck, Come on, that is the intellectual equivalent

1:33:25.960 --> 1:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>of what it's going on here with Medicare for All.

1:33:28.320 --> 1:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have better care. Everyone's gonna have care, no shortages,

1:33:32.880 --> 1:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>no rationing, and it's gonna save the government money and

1:33:37.000 --> 1:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna save you money. Who believes this? Who? Who? Who? What? What?

1:33:45.400 --> 1:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Archimedes sword in the stone? Uh? This is just I'm sorry, man,

1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna this dog just won't hunt. I'd just

1:33:52.960 --> 1:33:55.439
<v Speaker 1>like to say that dog just won't hunt. Say it

1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:58.799
<v Speaker 1>just like that too. Oh And in case that wasn't

1:33:59.200 --> 1:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>enough for you to have to accept. But already that's

1:34:03.600 --> 1:34:07.599
<v Speaker 1>that's whoa. That's way beyond what I think is reasonable

1:34:07.680 --> 1:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>or rational. What about providing health insurance to illegal immigrant

1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Remember we've been told this stuff that's not true about

1:34:15.880 --> 1:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Medicare for all, But what about adding illegal aliens into

1:34:20.840 --> 1:34:23.559
<v Speaker 1>the Medicare for All situations? So now illegal by those

1:34:23.560 --> 1:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of you that have Medicare. You've been paying your whole life.

1:34:25.960 --> 1:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just promise the government made to you,

1:34:28.000 --> 1:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>taking your money, taking money from your paychecks all the time.

1:34:30.920 --> 1:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>They're going to provide medicare for you later now, illegal

1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>aliens is just gonna get They're just gonna get that.

1:34:36.080 --> 1:34:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, I'm sorry, illegal aliens that haven't been paying

1:34:38.560 --> 1:34:41.439
<v Speaker 1>into that and haven't been filing taxes. They're not going

1:34:41.520 --> 1:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to get Medicare for All from Democrats. I don't think so.

1:34:44.600 --> 1:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Play eighteen please. In our vision, nobody is uninsured. We

1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you can't fall through the cracks. We'll

1:34:50.880 --> 1:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>even retroactively enroll people onto this Medicare for All who

1:34:54.720 --> 1:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>want a plan if they had been without insurance. The

1:34:58.120 --> 1:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>idea for me is the most it's important thing is

1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:03.479
<v Speaker 1>making sure you get insured. It's not making sure that

1:35:03.600 --> 1:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the government's doing the insuring. I think that the public

1:35:06.400 --> 1:35:09.519
<v Speaker 1>option can can do a better job. But the most

1:35:09.560 --> 1:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>important thing is that one way or the other, you

1:35:11.200 --> 1:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>get coverage, and in our plan, everybody does. They're not

1:35:14.800 --> 1:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>even talking about insurance. That's a miss Medicare for All misnomer,

1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>not an accurate description of what is happening, what is

1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>going on. But health insurance is not what we're discussing here.

1:35:26.600 --> 1:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>This is just health. This is subsidized healthcare. This is

1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the government with a taxpayer funded monopoly on the decision

1:35:36.120 --> 1:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>making about healthcare for every individual of the three hundred

1:35:39.960 --> 1:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and twenty million individuals in the United States. That's what

1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>this is. It's not no insurance, there's no there's no

1:35:48.760 --> 1:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>risk pool, there's no you know, you're you're old, you're young,

1:35:52.920 --> 1:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you're this, you're that, you're you know, you pay for this,

1:35:55.040 --> 1:35:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you get this. No, it's just everyone get everyone's gonna

1:35:57.240 --> 1:36:00.599
<v Speaker 1>get the SAME's gonna get whatever the government they get.

1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:04.559
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to include legal aliens. I would want

1:36:04.560 --> 1:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to ask mayor Pete, what about a legal alien who

1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>arrived yesterday would have been a legal alien who shows

1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>up next week. We still have problems at the border

1:36:11.439 --> 1:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>right now, we still have a legal crossings happening. Ye're

1:36:14.479 --> 1:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna get So now America is giving away not just

1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:22.639
<v Speaker 1>free healthcare, but the same level of healthcare, insurance, healthcare,

1:36:22.800 --> 1:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>rather of two people that break our law and come

1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>here from anywhereund the world. This is crazy. This would

1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:34.639
<v Speaker 1>have been understood to be crazy by the Democratic Party

1:36:34.680 --> 1:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>even as recently as let's say, five or ten years ago.

1:36:39.320 --> 1:36:42.479
<v Speaker 1>And yet you'll see no drop in support among Democrats

1:36:42.560 --> 1:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>really for the candidates that are saying this stuff, even

1:36:46.040 --> 1:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>though it should be recognizably well outside of what anyone

1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>would think is mainstream political thought. But it's not. Now,

1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>this is Democrat Party thought. My friends, they're going socialist.

1:36:59.400 --> 1:37:01.720
<v Speaker 1>The Democratic Party is a socialist party now that they

1:37:01.760 --> 1:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>can fight that definition as much as they want. They

1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>are a party of big government and central planning and

1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:12.240
<v Speaker 1>redistribution of wealth. They are devoted to socialism, and in

1:37:12.360 --> 1:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>many ways their social justice approach is meant to be

1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a rearranging of power among different groups. So they're redistributing

1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>money and they're redistributing power. That's what they think that

1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they should be doing, all based on the whims of

1:37:26.600 --> 1:37:29.679
<v Speaker 1>a central committee, if you will, the elites, the governing

1:37:29.720 --> 1:37:34.639
<v Speaker 1>apparatus that makes all these decisions. This is very, very

1:37:34.720 --> 1:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>troubling stuff. But may Or Pete's supposed to be the same.

1:37:39.160 --> 1:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>They're reasonable, the smart one, and he's all in a

1:37:41.960 --> 1:37:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Medicare for all, and his Medicare for All planned is

1:37:44.320 --> 1:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>just fantasy land stuff. It cannot work the way he

1:37:46.880 --> 1:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>says it's going to work. It is unserious to say

1:37:50.040 --> 1:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that it will do the things that he says it's

1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:54.439
<v Speaker 1>going to do. But no one's gonna hit him on

1:37:54.439 --> 1:37:56.679
<v Speaker 1>this one. They're just gonna let it go. Rock and roll.

1:37:56.840 --> 1:38:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Fellow patriots, we made ours go up to eleven. It's

1:38:20.520 --> 1:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>time for roll call, Roll call. All right, let's see

1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>what we got in the roll call. Facebook dot com

1:38:30.160 --> 1:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>slashbox section or teambuck at iHeartMedia dot com. If you

1:38:33.600 --> 1:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>want an email today, we'll get into some of the Facebook.

1:38:36.400 --> 1:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've been favoring the email you've got

1:38:40.520 --> 1:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>mail from back in the day. All right, let's get

1:38:43.400 --> 1:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to this. Darby, it's a cool name. Listen to Kamala

1:38:47.400 --> 1:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Harris say that she isn't doing well because America isn't

1:38:50.240 --> 1:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>ready for a woman of color to be president is ridiculous.

1:38:55.600 --> 1:38:57.839
<v Speaker 1>My ex wife is black and she's far more successful

1:38:57.840 --> 1:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>than I am for one very simple reason. She worked

1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>her tail off. That's it. Your analysis is one hundred

1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>percent correct that we as a country not tolerant any

1:39:05.200 --> 1:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest behaviors the left constantly accuses of us of.

1:39:08.600 --> 1:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>If sexism, racism, or any other ism is your excuse

1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>for not succeeding, you weren't going to succeed anyway. Yeah,

1:39:16.200 --> 1:39:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's just so easy for people

1:39:18.720 --> 1:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to find some reason why things haven't gone exactly the

1:39:21.400 --> 1:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>way they wanted to because of an immutable characteristic beyond

1:39:24.800 --> 1:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>their control. When I just don't think that. I'm not

1:39:27.920 --> 1:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>saying that doesn't tappen in America. I think that it

1:39:30.400 --> 1:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>happens far less frequently than we are told by the media.

1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's see here, Robert Rights. Libs are jealous of Trump.

1:39:44.280 --> 1:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>He was the king of what, married and surrounded by

1:39:50.360 --> 1:39:53.599
<v Speaker 1>hot women. He's rich, he's all, he's got awesome kids,

1:39:53.640 --> 1:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he's brutally honest. Yeah, basically, this guy's saying that he's awesome.

1:40:01.280 --> 1:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Libs hate Trump because Trump is so awesome. Well, I

1:40:04.680 --> 1:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like where your heads. I like where your head's at

1:40:06.400 --> 1:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>on that one. Let's see here, Chris buck love the show.

1:40:15.240 --> 1:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I hear you when you say the Orange Adonis failed

1:40:19.240 --> 1:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to deliver on his promise of a beautiful wall that

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<v Speaker 1>said nobody could have fully anticipated the deranged antics of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats. If a mayor comes in and promises to

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<v Speaker 1>reform the police and the entire establishment fights him at

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<v Speaker 1>any cost and uses corrupt judges to thwart his efforts,

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<v Speaker 1>did he fail or did the opposition prevent him using

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<v Speaker 1>a perversion of the law and accepted norms. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>wall is stunted, but he's working with the bounds of

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<v Speaker 1>the law. Unless he wanted to pull an Obama. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to judge his efforts in that light. You're being

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<v Speaker 1>a little too literal and cute on this issue, Chris Buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I wasn't there a focus on getting the wall

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<v Speaker 1>done when Trump had a majority in the Congress? Where

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<v Speaker 1>where was the wall? Then? Where was immigration action? First

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<v Speaker 1>two years? I look, I'm not saying that Trump doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have all those problems you laid out. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about how he has all those issues, but

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of knew he would right got the tax

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<v Speaker 1>cuts done. Glad we got those tax cuts, the most

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<v Speaker 1>classic Gop maneuver of all time. I'm not saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good, but it's not a game change. You know why,

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<v Speaker 1>because Democrats can and say, okay, now we're gonna raise taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. It was nice while it lasted. A

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<v Speaker 1>wall would be forever. And we don't have the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were promised wall. We were not promised. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to get a wall. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle's hey, buck saw the snap about Belgians. I had

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<v Speaker 1>one smartest, toughest dog I ever owned, not an easy

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<v Speaker 1>dog to own. Yeah, that's what I was saying. She

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<v Speaker 1>just roid every six sided cage we bought. Sheared off

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<v Speaker 1>lower canines, pulling a cage door through the smaller opening

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<v Speaker 1>so she could get out of one. She scaled a

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<v Speaker 1>six foot privacy fence is a Belgian Malinois, folks and

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<v Speaker 1>pulled it apart, chewed through another wooden fence. She had

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<v Speaker 1>storm anxiety and frankly thought she was human, but was

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<v Speaker 1>great with kids and dogs. They have a huge prey drive,

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<v Speaker 1>so it cannot be an apartment dog, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>a great breed. No, Kyle, that's well in line with

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<v Speaker 1>what I've read about Belgian Malinois. Amazing companions, incredibly loyal,

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly smart, fierce, and I think they're beautiful dogs too,

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<v Speaker 1>But not meant to be in like a studio apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where you have like a little bed in

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<v Speaker 1>the corner for it and no work for it to

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<v Speaker 1>do throughout the day. No, it's not a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not a lap dog. I think I might have

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<v Speaker 1>to get a lap dog. That'd be kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Brandy Rights, thanks for reinforcing the advertisement on owning such

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<v Speaker 1>a high breed, high drive breed like the Malonois or

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<v Speaker 1>Dutch shepherd malanown Dutch shepherd by the different type, but

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<v Speaker 1>they look very it's for a lay person like me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It hasn't been a lot of time with

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<v Speaker 1>those two breeds. They look a little similar. They're different,

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<v Speaker 1>but there it's easy to get them confused. And they

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<v Speaker 1>all they both also look a little bit like a

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<v Speaker 1>German shepherd, some differences in the body and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the coat colors. Um. Anyway, Brandy Wrights, I try to

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<v Speaker 1>save rescue so many Malonois and Dutchies that people discard

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<v Speaker 1>because they thought they were cool and find they cannot

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<v Speaker 1>handle the breed. Guys. The dog breed, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with dogs. The dog breed really matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're going to get it, if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the city, get a city dog. If you want a

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<v Speaker 1>lazy snuggle dog, get a dog that likes just lie

1:43:51.479 --> 1:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>around that have it's belly rubbed. If you want an

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<v Speaker 1>animal that is going to protect your home, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, be a working dog in some capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you were a no dog handling, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>think about getting a malinwaw. But do not just be like, oh,

1:44:07.760 --> 1:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>they look cool and they you know, track down bagdaddy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to get a Belgian malanwaw not a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea anyway. Seth buck love the podcast as a

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<v Speaker 1>retired sergeant from the army. This drives me crazy. That

1:44:24.240 --> 1:44:30.120
<v Speaker 1>guy was out of step. He looks confused. Seth is

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<v Speaker 1>saying he did not like the testimony of Vinman. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Man for writing. I appreciate it. And a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be it for the show today. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you have thought it was as fantastic as I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep asking you. Please tell somebody in your

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<v Speaker 1>life if you're bored, if you've got nothing else to say.

1:44:47.120 --> 1:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Sitting across some someone at dinner, they're like, hey, if

1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you try the Buck Sexton Show, listen to the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>a huge help. If everybody listening to this did that

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<v Speaker 1>and without I hope you've enjoyed the audio, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening or if you're watching on Pluto channel to

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight, first, thank you. She'll tie