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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, after a very unexpected Round one of the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, at least as far as the Bills were concerned,

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Speaker 2: we are here for Day two, which we'll begin in

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Speaker 2: earnest at seven pm tonight. Chris Brown, Matty Glad with

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Speaker 2: you here on a Friday edition of One Bills Live.

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Speaker 2: The obl Friday Fan mail bag is open for any

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Speaker 2: and all questions you might have on what happened last night,

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Speaker 2: what could happened tonight and on Saturday, where the Bills

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Speaker 2: suddenly have an enormous amount of draft capital. And I

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Speaker 2: would say, aside from moving out of Round one, have

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Speaker 2: dramatically improved their draft stock here on Night two.

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Speaker 3: And that's why they decided to move out of Night

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Speaker 3: one is because of the deal that was made, because

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Speaker 3: of what Kansas City offered, because of what Carolina offered,

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Speaker 3: they believed it was too good to pass up on.

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Speaker 3: Let's remember Brandon Bean said he has more second round

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Speaker 3: grades on players than he does first round grades. That

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Speaker 3: means with two second round picks, they can really get

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Speaker 3: some good value with the players that will be available

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Speaker 3: for them, whether that's a wide receiver, whether that's another position.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Bean and the scouting department believe they're set up

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Speaker 3: perfectly for tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, first and foremost, let's recap night one of

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. Six quarterbacks in the top twelve picks.

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Speaker 2: That's probably the headliner here. The most quarterbacks ever in

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Speaker 2: the top half of the draft, and it tied the

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Speaker 2: record for most quarterbacks in the first round in totality,

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Speaker 2: and they did it in the first twelve picks, matching

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Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty three draft class, which included Hall of

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Speaker 2: famers John Elway, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, along with Todd Blackledge,

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Speaker 2: Ken O'Brien and Tony Easan. Michael Pennix obviously the big

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Speaker 2: surprise at eighth overall to the Falcons. Maddy and I

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Speaker 2: are looking at each other last night as he comes

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Speaker 2: off the board. They signed Kirk Cousins in free agency

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Speaker 2: four years, one hundred and eighty million dollar deal. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna presumably play two of those four years, you would think,

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Speaker 2: and Michael Pennix may not provided Cousin stays healthy, may

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Speaker 2: not even take the field. And he's already twenty four

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Speaker 2: years old right now. Walking in the door. He may

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Speaker 2: not play till he's twenty six.

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Speaker 3: It'll be really interesting to see how this unfolds in

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Speaker 3: Atlanta over the next couple of years, and really understated

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Speaker 3: and why they decided to do that, Why they decided

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Speaker 3: to go with Michael Pennix junior, knowing that they had

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins already on the roster and it wasn't a

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Speaker 3: cheap quarterback. Kirk Cousins cost them quite a bit of money.

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Speaker 2: Give million guaranteed, and when heary plays one year or

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Speaker 2: four years, he's walking away with one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 3: We saw the video of Arthur Blank looked like in

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Speaker 3: the draft name. It looked like a little bit of

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Speaker 3: an explanation as to why the Atlanta Falcons went with

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Speaker 2: And then here's that. So apparently at the Falcons press

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Speaker 2: conference last night, GM Terry Fontino doubled down and said

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Speaker 2: Pennix might sit on the bench for four years, four years. Wow,

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Speaker 2: he'll be twenty eight by the time he plays, and

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Speaker 2: you still might not know if he can play because

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Speaker 2: you're playing Cousins every week. Now. Look, Cousins is coming

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Speaker 2: off in achilles injury. He's thirty six, thirty seven. I think, so,

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Speaker 2: all right, you want to draft some insurance. I get it.

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Speaker 2: I understand. Michael Pennix is the long term future planet quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be waiting a little bit. And look, Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers have a proven model with having first round

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Speaker 2: for them. Aaron Rodgers waited three years, Jordan Love waited

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Speaker 2: three years and looks like a really good quarterback for

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Speaker 2: And if I'm the Atlanta Falcons GM last night, that's

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Speaker 2: the first thing out of my mouth. The Green Bay

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Speaker 2: Packers have proven this is a model that works in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. We believe we can adopt a similar model

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Speaker 2: here with Michael Pennix, and then maybe everybody swallows it

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Speaker 2: a little bit easier because holy crow, pick eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because at least Green Bay when they

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was in the mid twenty Jordan Love I

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Speaker 2: That's a different animal.

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Speaker 3: And knowing that you just signed Kirk Cousins. I can

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Speaker 3: next year, we've already heard the quarterback class isn't great. Fine, whatever,

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins signed a four year deal. Maybe you don't

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Speaker 3: you're not drafting at number eight in two years, but

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Speaker 3: if you really believe you need a quarterback badly, you

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Speaker 3: don't really understand why they do that when they just

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Speaker 2: So I'm very curious to see how all of that

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Speaker 2: cousins agent. They're ticked. Apparently Cousin's got a phone call

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Speaker 3: Fuck, hey buddy, we're gonna draft a.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, so about three minutes notice before it happened. And

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Speaker 2: then on top of that, if you've got Cousins playing

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Speaker 2: You can't tell me that Penix isn't getting itchy because

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be twenty seven years old already and he

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Speaker 2: burning the candle at both ends no matter which way

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Speaker 2: you go here. And man, I just think they put

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Speaker 2: Cousins is able to perform. Because now Cousins goes on

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Speaker 2: the field every week going, if I don't show up

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna bring the kid in? Because he's a

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Speaker 3: So here's how it'll make sense. If Kirk Cousins comes

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Speaker 3: off of this Achilles' injury and isn't himself and it

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Speaker 3: go to Pennix. That's where it would make sense, but

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Speaker 3: that's a projection. That's a projection. Do you project and

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Speaker 3: then go get a quarterback with the eighth overall pick.

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Speaker 2: Well, and even that, even if that's the scenario that

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Speaker 2: you're still gonna get criticism because people are going to say, well,

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Speaker 2: why did you hand Kirk Cousins one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: guaranteed if you weren't sure he was going to look

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Speaker 2: do and damned if they don't. Now, if they have

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Speaker 2: good quarterback play and they win football games, nobody's gonna care.

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Speaker 2: But that's out there. The criticism is ready and waiting.

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Speaker 2: First fourteen picks of round one on offense, that is

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Speaker 2: a record. There were only nine total defensive players taken

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Speaker 2: in round one, so the previous record of nineteen offensive

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Speaker 2: and nine was obliterated. Twenty three offensive players come off

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Speaker 2: the board in Round one last night.

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Speaker 3: The offensive tackles really ruled the night. We heard from

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Speaker 3: On Night one, we saw several offensive tackles go off

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Speaker 3: the board. That really shaped how Night one looked. Six

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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft in twenty twenty four. It was unbelievable

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Speaker 3: to watch those quarterbacks, wide receivers, and offensive tackles go

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Speaker 3: off the board. It speaks to where the NFL is

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Speaker 3: at today. It speaks to what is the most important

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Speaker 3: part of the NFL. That is offense. That is protecting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, scoring points. Seven offensive tackles and a guard and

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Speaker 2: then seven wide receivers that tied the record set in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and four. Seven wide receivers in Round one,

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Speaker 2: It tied the record. Only four trades in round one

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Speaker 2: to involve Minnesota, to involve the Bills, Minnesota and the

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Speaker 2: two picks later, the Broncos take the sixth quarterback, Bo Nicks,

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Speaker 2: Nicks and I don't know how many people know this.

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Speaker 2: I mean people were talking about how Jaden Daniels has

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Speaker 2: Nicks has been around the block a few times too.

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Speaker 2: Sixty one starts in college at quarterback. That is an

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Speaker 2: for that. I think only time will tell. But you

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Speaker 2: couldn't get a more experienced college quarterback than Bo Nicks.

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Speaker 2: And Sean Payton is convinced. And I heard Daniels Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: I believe it was who said when or maybe it

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Speaker 2: was Peter Schrager. Forgive me for not knowing the exact

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Speaker 2: person who mentioned this last night, but Bo Nicks on

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Speaker 2: his pre Draft thirty visit, the night before he meets

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Speaker 2: with the Broncos, he's at his hotel, he gets an

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Speaker 2: email from the Broncos personnel department with some playstalls. Hey,

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Speaker 2: here's a set of plays. Whatever. He comes in the

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Speaker 2: next day, they quiz him on every single thing on

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Speaker 3: So that's your guy.

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Speaker 2: That was their guy after that, apparently from what some

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Speaker 2: of the NFL insiders are reporting, so kind of a

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Speaker 2: cool deal there. The other trade by Minnesota saw them

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Speaker 2: move up again to pick sixteen seventeen in a trade

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Speaker 2: the Vikings take a sliding pass rusher in Dallas Turner,

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Speaker 2: which was a great value pick at seventeen, but the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars take Brian Thomas off the board with pick twenty three,

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Speaker 2: and with the Bills seeing the board fall the way

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Speaker 2: it did, especially after that pick by the Jaguars, it

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Speaker 2: was clear they made the decision to get out at

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Speaker 2: twenty eight and they were fielding a number of calls,

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Speaker 2: according to Brandon Bean and ultimately get the value they want.

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Speaker 2: After swapping ones at twenty eight and thirty two with

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Bills land a third round pick at

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Speaker 2: ninety five overall from Kansas City in exchange for the fourth,

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Speaker 2: So they move up thirty eight picks, more than a

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Speaker 2: another twenty seven picks, almost another full round, from two

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Speaker 2: forty eight to twenty one. So that's the Chief steal

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Speaker 2: in a nutshell. I don't know about you, Maddy, but

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Speaker 2: my belief is Buffalo was out of players with first

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Speaker 2: so they slide back four spots to thirty two. Being said,

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Speaker 3: We saw Xavier Worthy go off the board at twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: Why are we participating?

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Speaker 3: Why are we participating with Kansas City when they're getting

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Speaker 3: have first round grades left, That's why they didn't go

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Speaker 3: So when they get into Night two tonight, they are

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Speaker 3: round into the fifth round. With that trade, it's about value,

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you right now, it wouldn't shock me

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Speaker 2: with the four and the four fives that you have,

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Speaker 2: I think they've thought about that. They've thought that way

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Speaker 2: And they not only have three picks on day two

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Speaker 2: People were freaking out that the Bills did not take

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Speaker 2: parting with future capital in the first round. He didn't

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Speaker 3: He didn't even want to trade his second round pickaway,

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Speaker 2: So think about this when you're thinking about how Brandon

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Speaker 2: So that says to me two things. Number One, the

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Speaker 2: what You're out of your mind now. The Bills didn't

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Speaker 2: on draft capital important draft capital in terms of where

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Speaker 2: and that's round two and three. I believe based on

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Speaker 3: I want to say one thing I know fans can

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Speaker 3: scouting these players. They're scouts on the staff right now

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Speaker 3: They spend so much time grading, evaluating, watching the film,

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Speaker 3: to reach for value that isn't there. That's why they

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Speaker 2: Of a year's worth of work, and to just throw

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Speaker 3: Get this guy would be doing all their work intosservice

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Speaker 2: It's like throwing throwing, crumping on up your board and

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Speaker 5: Did not try to move up. We did not and

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Speaker 2: And to me, that's that's the win. In Brandon Bean's mind,

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Speaker 2: you don't have one pick today or tonight, you have three.

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Speaker 2: And I realize you parted with the first round draft

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Speaker 2: And Steve and I about a week or so ago,

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Speaker 2: There is a history that shows it is often the

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Speaker 2: but in the future to do so. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: pike here, right, I mean, let's trust the process.

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Speaker 3: After Brandon Bean traded Stefan Diggs, he said to the media,

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Speaker 3: they could do it back to back tonight. They could

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean was asked a question last night, was he

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Speaker 2: know they're the defending super Bowl champs. Why are we

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Speaker 6: No, because they're listen.

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Speaker 5: They can move around. If we don't trade with them,

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Speaker 5: it's got to make sense for us, and we're following

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Speaker 5: We didn't want to go crazy far and honestly thought

437
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Speaker 5: we would pick at thirty two, but then talk to

438
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Speaker 5: my buddy Dan and gave us a chance to move up.

439
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Speaker 5: I think fifty nine slots, you know, from a six

440
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Speaker 5: to a five, and so now we've got a three.

441
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Speaker 5: You know, we got the two two's, a three, a four,

442
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Speaker 5: and four five's, and I think that gives us some

443
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Speaker 5: chance to fill some roles or use AMMO to move

444
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Speaker 5: around again, depending on how the board falls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think he kind of laid out gms

446
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Speaker 2: on the whole are primarily focused on how am I

447
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Speaker 2: improving our situation. I don't think Brandon Bean gave a

448
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Speaker 2: hoot about who the Chiefs had in mind the only time,

449
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: and he explained this last night that that really comes

450
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Speaker 2: into play is if you're flip flopping spots with a

451
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Speaker 2: team and maybe you only have two guys you like,

452
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Speaker 2: you're moving back one and you are at least interested

453
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Speaker 2: in where that team is headed. We heard Brandon Bean

454
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Speaker 2: explain that last year when Jacksonville and the Bills dealt

455
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Speaker 2: and Brandon Bean leapfrog Dallas to go up to Jacksonville's

456
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Speaker 2: spot two spots above, Jacksonville was a little concern moving

457
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Speaker 2: back to spots because they wanted an offensive lineman and

458
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Speaker 2: they asked Brandon. Trent Balkey asked Brandon, hey, can you

459
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Speaker 2: tell me which side of the ball you're picking on?

460
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Speaker 2: And he's like offense and then he goes big or

461
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Speaker 2: small and Brandon told him medium because you know he's

462
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Speaker 2: taking a tight endn't he just? Balke just wanted to

463
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Speaker 2: make sure you're not taking an offensive lineman because we

464
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Speaker 2: only like two more and now we're moving back to

465
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Speaker 2: So I think if it was a move like that,

466
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Speaker 2: Brandon would have wanted to know, But no one, he's

467
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Speaker 2: moving back four spots. It was clear to me that

468
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Speaker 2: their value near the end of round one had been compromised,

469
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Speaker 2: and moving back four spots. They did not even give

470
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Speaker 2: it a second thought.

471
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Speaker 3: If they had a first round great on Xavier Worthy,

472
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Speaker 3: he would have been a Buffalo Bill at number twenty eight.

473
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Speaker 3: The Bills would have stuck there, they would have drafted him.

474
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Speaker 3: That was not the case. Who is the most important

475
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Speaker 3: the Bills. You're acting as the general manager of the Bills.

476
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Speaker 3: You're trying to get this team better than it was

477
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: last season. That is your first priority. Your first priority

478
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Speaker 3: is not what are the Chiefs doing. Your first priority

479
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Speaker 3: is how can I make this team better? And that

480
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Speaker 3: is what he did last night, is what he believes

481
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Speaker 3: he did last night. Brandon Mean has a great track

482
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Speaker 3: record for how he's operated as a GM since coming

483
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Speaker 3: into this building in twenty seventeen. We're sixteen.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to finish with Brandon's characterization of the

485
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Speaker 2: value that he had set for prospects in the first round.

486
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Speaker 2: You know, people kept asking him. You know, you said

487
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Speaker 2: you had more first round grades on players than you

488
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Speaker 2: did last year, but you didn't have twenty eight, How

489
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Speaker 2: did that kind of impact your decision to move down

490
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Speaker 2: the board. So he kind of laid that out for everyone.

491
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Speaker 5: If I was never going to rule out moving up

492
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Speaker 5: some I wasn't prepared to give up our second because

493
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Speaker 5: then we you know, if we had to go far

494
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Speaker 5: enough to do that. Now you're picking at whatever pick

495
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Speaker 5: that was in the first and you're going all the

496
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Speaker 5: way to whatever was one twenty eight or something like that.

497
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Speaker 5: We think there was you know, good value coming up tomorrow,

498
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Speaker 5: and so we just wanted at least one pick there.

499
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Speaker 5: And and again we added some AMMO to move back one,

500
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Speaker 5: you know on moving you know, now we have four

501
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Speaker 5: or five's that we can either take or or use,

502
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Speaker 5: depending on Again, we'll follow the board. We put a

503
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Speaker 5: lot of time and effort into the board, and you know,

504
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Speaker 5: we think it's fallen pretty similar to kind of how

505
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Speaker 5: we thought. You know, we weren't near twenty eight first

506
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Speaker 5: round grade, so you know, going in there's not necessarily

507
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: a great chance that you're gonna you know, pick there.

508
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: And again last year we had Dalton Kincaid in the first.

509
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: We were nervous, you know, we'd run out. So I

510
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Speaker 5: moved up, whatever it was, two slots, I believe to

511
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Speaker 5: get him. So we put a lot of time on

512
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Speaker 5: the board, and one of the things we said was,

513
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Speaker 5: you know, if there's an opportunity to get back into

514
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Speaker 5: the third, we do believe there'll be some value and

515
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Speaker 5: or at least the value of that pick again if

516
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Speaker 5: we want to move around.

517
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Speaker 2: So that's kind of where it stood, and you know,

518
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: now the Bills are armed with valuable picks here on

519
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: day two, three in total, it could end up being

520
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: more before the night's over. And the other thing to

521
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: consider here pick thirty three. Over the years, ever since

522
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: they separated round one and round two from day one

523
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 2: to day two and made it a three day draft,

524
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Speaker 2: it is a position that is highly coveted because teams

525
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: general managers have an opportunity to assess the landscape, compare

526
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: it to what their board says, and you have time,

527
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: more importantly to get on the phone with the holders

528
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Speaker 2: of that thirty third pick to decide what you want

529
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Speaker 2: to part with now to land the thirty third pick.

530
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Speaker 2: Brandon said it last night. His phone was already ringing.

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Speaker 3: Do not be surprised if the Bills decide to trade

532
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Speaker 3: back again. If they believe their guy is gonna be there,

533
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Speaker 3: possibly in two to five whatever it is, May five picks.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they have six guys they love right now exactly,

535
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: so maybe they move back three spots.

536
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: Maybe their board is hot with players right now. They

537
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: can go wherever they want. Multiple positions in the second round,

538
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: in the top of the second round, and trading back

539
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: to grab a couple more picks will just help their

540
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: value as they look at their entire draft board what

541
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Speaker 3: they have in picks even more.

542
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Speaker 2: We are going to take a break here, but we've

543
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Speaker 2: got a jam pack show for you today as we

544
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Speaker 2: are a three hour edition of one Bill's Live after

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Speaker 2: Night one of the NFL Draft. Coming up. In the

546
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Speaker 2: second hour of the show, we're going to have Charles Davis,

547
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Speaker 2: not only from the NFL on CBS, but also part

548
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Speaker 2: of NFL Networks coverage of the draft. You saw him

549
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Speaker 2: in Detroit last night. We'll catch up with him for

550
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Speaker 2: a recap around one and what to expect in round two.

551
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Speaker 2: And in our number three of the show, we will

552
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Speaker 2: catch up with our good friend Greg Cosell to assess

553
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Speaker 2: some of the best receiver talent still left on the

554
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Speaker 2: board for Night two. But your phone calls are up. Next.

555
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Speaker 2: Got questions about anything draft related? Fire them off at

556
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Speaker 2: us at eighth three oh five point fifty one eight

557
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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number to

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Speaker 2: get on board as Maddy and I take your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by KLIDA Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Matti glad with you on a

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Speaker 2: Friday in anticipation of nine two of the NFL Draft,

563
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Speaker 2: where the Bills now hold three picks at thirty three,

564
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Speaker 2: sixty and ninety five in round three. But we're here

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Speaker 2: to go to the phones at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

567
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Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board as the

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Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mail bag is open for any and

569
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Speaker 2: all questions or to react to what did or did

570
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Speaker 2: not happen last night for the Bills. We lead off

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Speaker 2: with Terry in Batavia. What do you got for us? Terry?

572
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Speaker 7: I agree with the ale bit with what Brenda Bean did.

573
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Speaker 7: Now we have more draft capital and another sports show.

574
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Speaker 7: They had a survey up and in the last twenty

575
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Speaker 7: two years the biggest bus in the first round was

576
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Speaker 7: wide receivers. What do you think of that?

577
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's a little bit misleading.

578
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: I understand the chart you're referring to. An ESPN statistician

579
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Speaker 2: came up with that. I think it's somewhat of a

580
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: stat in a vacuum because when receivers are taken in

581
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: the first round. I think what's also important to remember

582
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: is sometimes receivers taken high or going to poor teams,

583
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: sometimes those teams don't have proven quarterbacks productive quarterbacks. The

584
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: receiver's production is largely predicated on the abilities of a

585
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: quarterback and their offensive line. So I think that has

586
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Speaker 2: to be taken into account, But I don't think it

587
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: should be summarily dismissed either. I think you got to

588
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: take it with a grain of salt. But you agree

589
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: with what being did. I know there's gonna be people

590
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Speaker 2: that don't because I think here's the other thing, Maddy.

591
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Speaker 2: After three and a half months of talking about the

592
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Speaker 2: draft and then you finally get to draft night, you

593
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Speaker 2: want your team to pick somebody. You want a name,

594
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Speaker 2: you want a player that you can be excited about.

595
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: And I think some bills fans feel like they were

596
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: robbed of that opportunity.

597
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: And listen, when we were talking about the NFL Draft

598
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Speaker 3: over the last few months, we talked about Marvin Harrison junior,

599
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Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors, and Romo Dunze as being the top three

600
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: wide receivers in the draft class wide receivers who could

601
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Speaker 3: change their offense, who could change the team, who could

602
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: make their team a lot better. Those were the three best.

603
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior wide receiver number four, with that X

604
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: wide receiver potential, the potential to become a number one

605
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Speaker 3: wide receiver. We heard Brandon Bean say, I did not

606
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Speaker 3: call to try to trade up. All the discussion about

607
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: us trying to trade up to the top ten picks,

608
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: that was a smoke screen. I didn't try and trade

609
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: up at all on Night one. Those top three wide

610
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: receivers they were never going to be available for the Bills.

611
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: The Bills weren't interested in giving up a lot of

612
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: draft capital to go get them. And when you look

613
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: at the wide receivers that were left, the ones that

614
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: they didn't go after in the first round, a lot

615
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: of those wide receivers have a lot of potential, but

616
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Speaker 3: we're not sure what they're going to turn into. We're

617
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: not sure if they're going to be number one wide receivers,

618
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Speaker 3: if they're going to be a true X for their team,

619
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Speaker 3: if they're going to be game breakers, game changers, if

620
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: defenses are going to have a hard time preparing for

621
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Speaker 3: a player like Xavier Worthy. We knew the top three

622
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Speaker 3: guys were the best in the NFL Draft, the top

623
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Speaker 3: three wide receivers. When you look beyond that, a lot

624
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Speaker 3: of it is projection based, and that's why the Bills

625
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: felt like they didn't need to go after the wide

626
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: receivers that went at the end of the first round

627
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Speaker 3: because they didn't believe they had first round grades on them.

628
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: We had a couple of people on the show between

629
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Speaker 2: the combine and last night, people like Jim Naggy from

630
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Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, a couple other draft analysts, and a

631
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: lot of them were and this was a consensus opinion

632
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Speaker 2: that the difference between a player at pick twenty five

633
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: and a player at pick forty was minimal this year,

634
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: and that went across positions, which I think is a

635
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: little bit more of a difficult projection for aiming like

636
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: us and people that don't do personnel evaluation every day

637
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: of the week, twelve months a year. But I found

638
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: that interesting that there was this wide swath of players

639
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: that you know, number twenty five thirty picks that bridged

640
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: round one in round two, and the difference between them

641
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: by consensus opinion was limited. So if you know that

642
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: and you're a team that doesn't see the value at

643
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: twenty eight, get out of there and move back to

644
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Speaker 2: round two, get a similar player in terms of ability

645
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: and production or what have you, and pick up draft

646
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: capital in the process. I think that's the way Brandon

647
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: being looked at it. Last night. Let's go back to

648
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: the phones and we go to Kevin and Hamburg. What's up, Kevin?

649
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Speaker 4: Call sure, I'm glad the build got a third rounder,

650
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 4: because I meet, like a Live Bill fan, were not

651
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: happy they wouldn't have a third rounder. I just don't

652
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: want to up too far down that they lose a chance.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at your receivers sing right now on TV McConkie, Mitchell,

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Speaker 4: and Franklin. I don't want to go too bar down

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Speaker 4: that they don't get those top three guys that you

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Speaker 4: had on your screen, especially Mitchell, the one that everyone

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Speaker 4: says we might possibly get because I'm a big long

658
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Speaker 4: horned follower and I watched long Horn games and the

659
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Speaker 4: way he smoked Alabama. You don't just smoke Nick Staban's team,

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Speaker 4: you know, the way he did in the Atlanta game

661
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Speaker 4: last year when he being my twelve points or something.

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Speaker 4: You just don't smoke a Nick Saban team the way

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Speaker 4: he did. He just torched him like he was almost

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Speaker 4: like Justin Jefferson torturing us in that biking game a

665
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago. So I just don't want to

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Speaker 4: drop two bar down and lose those top three guys

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Speaker 4: that you got in the top at twenty four, twenty seven,

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Speaker 4: forty six ring, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear where you're coming from, Kevin, and I

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Speaker 2: respect that. Yeah, it's interesting. Maddy and I work in

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Speaker 2: to get to a list of players at the receiver

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Speaker 2: position that are still out there, and there's plenty on

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Speaker 2: the board to put it simply, and we'll go over

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Speaker 2: some of those names specifically and in depth with Greg

675
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Speaker 2: Cosel and hour number three of the show, so be

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Speaker 2: sure to stay tuned for that. But there are a

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Speaker 2: handful of players that we even know made visits pre

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Speaker 2: draft thirty visits to the Bills. I mean they were publicized,

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Speaker 2: they were reported, they're out there. I mean, we know

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Speaker 2: Troy Franklin did a pre Draft thirty visit. We know

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Speaker 2: Keon Coleman did a pre Draft thirty visit. So they

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Speaker 2: were on the list, you know. And we've got other

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Speaker 2: players in the pool like lad McConkie tes Walker from

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky, Jalen Polk from Washington.

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Speaker 2: Who's a player I really like they get a guy

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Speaker 2: like that, I'll be really happy. So there are options.

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Speaker 2: It's not like the cupboard is suddenly bare because they

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Speaker 2: didn't get one in the first rounds. So hold your.

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Speaker 3: Water, people, Ani Mitchell as well, well, there's wide receivers

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Speaker 3: that are available right now that I would be really

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Speaker 3: excited about if the Bills drafted them somewhere in the

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Speaker 3: second round.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to Luke in Rochester next. What's up, Luke?

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Speaker 8: Hi? Yeah, I was interested in how you guys are

695
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Speaker 8: saying that their second round grades and there's more of them,

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Speaker 8: there's still gotta to be some kind of hierarchy similar

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Speaker 8: to like what happened in the first round with the receivers. One, two, three, four,

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Speaker 8: and Chris you and I lost Brian Thomas, and I

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Speaker 8: like Yester Colin, I like Parsol a lot. He runs

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Speaker 8: in the first round. I think Jalen McMillan is really

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Speaker 8: the best possibility for the Bills right now. I do

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Speaker 8: like Polk like you do too. And there's there's some

703
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Speaker 8: other pretty good receivers like McConkey and Kaswaka who looks

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Speaker 8: like he could really develop. And then Maddy just mentioned

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Speaker 8: that Nim Mitchell not one of my favorites last collar

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Speaker 8: loved them. I mean, how do they do they risk

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Speaker 8: to me McMillan the best option right now for them?

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Speaker 8: Do they risk losing him by moving three or four

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Speaker 8: spots and getting someone like Mitchell?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it'll be interesting to see Luke, because

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Speaker 2: you know, as you get later in the draft, the

712
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Speaker 2: difference of opinion tends to get wider in terms of

713
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Speaker 2: variants as well. There are some people that will probably

714
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Speaker 2: like maybe even yourself, for example, you're in love with

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Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan. The vast consensus of draft gurus have him

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Speaker 2: as a late second third round pick, late second, early third,

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Speaker 2: so he might even be available at sixty if the

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Speaker 2: Bills want to double dip Jaylen Pulk, by most people's accounts,

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Speaker 2: is considered the better player. But all it takes is

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Speaker 2: one team to be just as excited about Jayleen macmillan

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Speaker 2: as you are, and boom, all of a sudden, he's

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Speaker 2: the thirty eighth pick in the draft. I mean, that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff happens. And to your point, also, I

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Speaker 2: had Ricky Piersall as a player somewhere between thirty five

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Speaker 2: and forty five. I was seeing he goes thirty one

726
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Speaker 2: last night. It only takes one team.

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Speaker 3: And I think the tough thing to wrap your head

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Speaker 3: around right now is when thinking about the second round grades,

729
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Speaker 3: is thinking about how if they have a bunch of

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Speaker 3: second round grades on these guys, on these wide receivers

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Speaker 3: let's say that are sticking out right now. Do they

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Speaker 3: have favorites? Do they have a lump of guys who

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Speaker 3: they would be happy with getting any Are there some

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Speaker 3: sticking out? Are there some at the bottom of the list.

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Speaker 3: If they have a favorite that gets passed up on

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Speaker 3: that somebody else takes and they decide to, let's say

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Speaker 3: trade back a few spots in the second round, why

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Speaker 3: would they be okay? With getting the second best wide

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Speaker 3: receiver in that group of players. It's something as fans

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Speaker 3: and as you and I who cover this team, it's

741
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Speaker 3: a little bit hard to wrap your head around when

742
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Speaker 3: you're not in the scouting business every single day of

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Speaker 3: your life.

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Speaker 2: Now, because the other thing that you don't get is

745
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Speaker 2: the character evaluation. We don't sit down with this guy's family.

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Speaker 2: We're not sitting down with his middle school coaches. We're

747
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Speaker 2: not sitting down with his college coaches, his high school

748
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Speaker 2: coaches and finding out what makes the guy tick if

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Speaker 2: there are, you know, character flaws in terms of what

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Speaker 2: the Bills DNA is. And that's why some players that

751
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: we might be like, wow, look at this guy's game,

752
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: he'd be unbelievable for the Bills. If he doesn't have

753
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Speaker 2: that Bill's character makeup, he's not getting picked by this

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Speaker 2: team no matter how good he is. We have to

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Speaker 2: take a break here, but more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: when we return. Chuck on a cell ron a cheek

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Speaker 2: Towaga butcher on the east side. Hang tight. We'll try

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Speaker 2: to get to all three of you when we return here.

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health. It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on one Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live as we kind of get ready for Night two

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Draft. Chris Brown add he glad with you,

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Speaker 2: and we want to get right back to the phones

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Speaker 2: where you've got questions, you've got comments on night one

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Speaker 2: of the draft to Chuck on a sale next, what's up, Chuck?

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Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for checking my call.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 9: You know, I have to admit I was one of

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Speaker 9: those that shouted at the TV when I saw the

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Speaker 9: trade down to Kansas City no less. But you know

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Speaker 9: when they picked Worthy, Uh, I was okay with that

772
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Speaker 9: because you know, I'm thinking he's too small, he's gonna

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Speaker 9: get killed.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you, but but Andy Reid does magic with

775
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 10: little guys with speed, and that's what is worrying me

776
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 10: is that it's gonna come back.

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Speaker 9: To haunt us, just like Mahomes has. When said Bean

778
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 9: said he wasn't looking to move up even when Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 9: who I loved, was available in the twenties, I was surprised.

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Speaker 9: But I you know, from what I'm listening to and

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Speaker 9: from you and from Bean, I guess he just didn't

782
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 9: love him like I did. And what I'm afraid of

783
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 9: is after these trade downs, I'm afraid they're gonna do

784
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 9: it again and pass up on two of the other

785
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 9: ones that I really like, which is Mconkie and Mitchell.

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Speaker 9: So I'm just thinking what your thoughts are, Intimets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, Chuck. I'll say this after Mitchell slipped

788
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Speaker 2: out of the first round last night. I made some

789
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Speaker 2: calls this morning just around the league with some people

790
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: that I know that are plugged in to say, hey,

791
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: anything on Mitchell, and some people did say to me

792
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: there are some concerns with work ethic, character and it

793
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: might be one of the reasons why he slipped to

794
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: round two. Now we know that the Bills are all

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00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 2: about Bill's DNA daily self improvement team. First, same effort

796
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: and commitment to the process, whether it's week one, week seven,

797
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: week seventeen, whether you're up ten points, down thirty points,

798
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: lost three in a row, one to three in a row.

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Speaker 2: And if they don't feel he passes the smell test

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00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: in that area, he's not getting taken tonight by the Bills.

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00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want guys who add character to this roster.

802
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: They want people who fit in the building, who fit

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00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: with the DNA and the culture that they already have

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Speaker 3: in place. As it relates to Brian Thomas junior, maybe

805
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean was willing to select him at number twenty

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Speaker 3: eight and it would only be if he fell to

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Speaker 3: them at twenty eight. The fact that he got to

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00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: twenty three to me, was a little bit surprising with

809
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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars with that pick. But if the Bills

810
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: didn't make any calls to move up in the first round,

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Speaker 3: they believed he wasn't worth getting in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the first round, and who knows too. You know,

813
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: that shoulder injury popped up. Some teams considered it a

814
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: yellow flag in terms of medical like it's something he'd

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Speaker 2: be able to play through. Other teams considered it a

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00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: red flag and said, well, we might tell him to

817
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: get surgery and that might cost us games in which

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Speaker 2: he'll be available as a rookie. I'm not spending a

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Speaker 2: first round pick on a guy that might miss six

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00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: seven games in his rookie year. So maybe that was

821
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Speaker 2: a matter of debate too. We'll probably never know, but

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Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to see how Jacksonville handles Brian Thomas's

823
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: shoulder injury or issue as it were to Ron and

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Speaker 2: Cheek Dewaganax, what's up, ron.

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Speaker 11: Hi, thanks for having me. I had a different point

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Speaker 11: of view kind of question. Yeah, do you do you

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Speaker 11: think that Brandabin always struck He is a guy that

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Speaker 11: wanted to sign people that would be here for a while.

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Speaker 11: Then he might have been considering dropping to the second

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Speaker 11: round for a cap pit type of thing, as opposed

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Speaker 11: to I mean, if the players there then he wants

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Speaker 11: Would it make a difference.

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Speaker 2: The money you're talking about.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, in the future, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't don't. I don't think so. The most important

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Speaker 2: thing for this team to do is to get the

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Speaker 2: best player that fits the value of where they're picking

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Speaker 2: on the board. That is a number one priority. I

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Speaker 2: don't think money. I think mister Pagoula, first of all,

840
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: has demonstrated that money is not an issue. They've had

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00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: to maneuver their way to get back under the cap

842
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: in terms of their spending, So I don't think money

843
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: comes into it at all. And really, when you're talking

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Speaker 2: about contracts for rookie receivers, the difference between pick twenty

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Speaker 2: eight and pick thirty three is minimal, and just as

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00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: an example like Jaden Reid was the second round pick

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00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: last year, four year contract just over seven million dollars.

848
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Speaker 2: So that's kind of where they're going to be at

849
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Speaker 2: if they pick here early in round two, and if

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00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: they picked late in round one, would it have been

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00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: a little bit higher, Yes, but not appreciably so.

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Speaker 3: And quickly to that point, Brandon Bean said last night

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00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: that he didn't mind missing out on that fifth year option.

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00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: That wasn't something that he felt like he really needed

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Speaker 3: with somebody if they decided to stay in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are up against the break here, so we

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Speaker 2: got to step aside because in our number two, our

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Speaker 2: good friend from the NFL on CBS and also part

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Speaker 2: Draft in Detroit, our good friend Charles Davis will join

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Speaker 2: us next to recap round one and what he believes

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Speaker 2: is on the horizon for the Bills coming up here

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two as we

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Speaker 2: prepare for Night two of the NFL Draft. Chris Brown Matty.

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Speaker 2: Glad with you and please to be joined now with

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Speaker 2: our good friend from NFL on CBS but also part

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Speaker 2: of NFL Networks Draft coverage live from Detroit. It is

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Speaker 2: the one and only Charles Davis joining us, who is

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Speaker 2: a busy man but has been kind enough to give

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Speaker 2: us a few minutes of his time here today. Charles,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. I hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 13: Thank you very much. Always happy to join you two

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Speaker 13: and anyone at one Bill's Live. And thanks for having me.

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Speaker 13: Most people won't have me around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah one, Now you're just you're lying like a rug.

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Speaker 2: Come on, so, Charles, I know, six quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 2: first twelve picks was a stunner. I realize seven wide

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Speaker 2: receivers ties a record in the first round, but I

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Speaker 2: don't want to speak for Maddie, but I think our

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Speaker 2: biggest shock and twenty three offensive players in round one.

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Speaker 2: I think we anticipated that the record was going to

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Speaker 2: be broken of nineteen, but twenty three is a fat number.

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Speaker 2: What does it say about where the league is going?

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Speaker 2: Is this a byproduct of just the fact that there

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Speaker 2: were top tier offensive players or is it a different

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Speaker 2: message here that offense is what wins now, Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I think people like to play from the front, like

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Speaker 13: to utilize offense. Those days of offenses, tickets, defense, wins championships.

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Speaker 13: There's an element of that. Of course, Kansas City actually

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Speaker 13: proved that last year in a lot of ways. But

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Speaker 13: for the most part, people want to be high powered,

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Speaker 13: right they You know, a lot of teams are opting

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Speaker 13: to amp up their offense instead of getting a defensive

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Speaker 13: piece to try and solve with offenses, throw at them. Okay, well,

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Speaker 13: instead of being able to slow them down or stop them,

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Speaker 13: we'll just outscore them. We're seeing more and more evidence

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Speaker 13: of that. But I also think this year in terms

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Speaker 13: of rating players, where the rankings were, it was all

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Speaker 13: on the offensive side of the ball. For whatever reason, right,

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Speaker 13: whether COVID the extra year and IL whatever, it was

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Speaker 13: one of those years where the top rank guys we're

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Speaker 13: going to be offensive guys, and that was they came

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Speaker 13: off the board accordingly. And Chris you you talked about

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Speaker 13: the number of surprises even right, but all of them

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Speaker 13: were discussed before we even went into the ring.

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Speaker 6: Last night.

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Speaker 13: We discussed six quarterbacks in the first round. We actually

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Speaker 13: got to the point where right before the draft we

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Speaker 13: discussed six quarterbacks in the first thirteen picks. We thought

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Speaker 13: the Raiders might be the thirteenth team to take that

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Speaker 13: sixth quarterback. It didn't happen. It went twelve, so that

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Speaker 13: discussion was on the table. We knew wide receivers were

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Speaker 13: going to be a huge, huge get, and that number

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Speaker 13: came true. And then some we knew offensive tackles were

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Speaker 13: going to be the big target, and there just weren't

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Speaker 13: as many edge rushers in corners that people wanted to

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Speaker 13: go get. Thus, as you pointed out, the record twenty

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Speaker 13: three offensive players. So yeah, there's an answer in every

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Speaker 13: bit of it. But in a lot of cases, the

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Speaker 13: rankings were just higher for the offensive guys, which I

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Speaker 13: don't think the league office has a problem with. I

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Speaker 13: think the league office like the fact that we're all

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Speaker 13: these offensive guys in pump up ratings, more scoring, more people,

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Speaker 13: happier defensive coaches.

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Speaker 2: Not so much, Charles.

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Speaker 3: Last night, the Atlanta Falcons decided to draft Michael Pennix

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Speaker 3: with the eighth overall pick. They signed Kirk Cousins to

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Speaker 3: a four year, one hundred and eighty million dollars deal

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Speaker 3: this offseason. How do you explain what happened in their

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Speaker 3: draft room last night.

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Speaker 13: I'm waiting for one, Maddie. I'm waiting for an explanation

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Speaker 13: that makes sense that I can wrap my little brain around, right,

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Speaker 13: my Winnie the Pooh brain, Okay, because I'm not killing

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Speaker 13: the pick, all right, So I hope everybody understands that

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Speaker 13: I've gotten to the point where teams choose people that

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Speaker 13: they have a belief in and where they get them

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Speaker 13: at this point doesn't matter to the rest of us.

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Speaker 13: You know that game we play, Oh my god, they

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Speaker 13: took him at four, They could have got him at

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Speaker 13: twenty six. Well, they weren't the ones that were gonna

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Speaker 13: get him at twenty six. Someone else was. Travis Frederick

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Speaker 13: is a patron saying of that could have got him

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Speaker 13: in the third round. Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, but we liked him,

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Speaker 13: so we took him into first He was an all

949
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Speaker 13: pro cent did Detroit last year? You moved up to

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Speaker 13: get JAMR. Gibbs at twelve. He's a running back. You

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Speaker 13: could have got him later. No, but we liked him.

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Speaker 13: How he played for them. Jack Campbell an inside linebacker

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Speaker 13: at twenty six last year? Why what are you doing?

954
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Speaker 13: An inside linebacker starter for them? Very solid good football player.

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Speaker 13: My point being, go get the guys you want. If

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Speaker 13: Atlanta had conviction, that's great. Well, my colleague he and

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Speaker 13: Rappaport reported right before the pick that Arthur Blank, the

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Speaker 13: owner of Atlanta, had said he wants a succession plan

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Speaker 13: in place at quarterback, and Michael Pennix was now in play. Okay,

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Speaker 13: got it. Succession plan.

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Speaker 6: Don't forget.

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Speaker 13: You got a rookie head coach, second time as a

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Speaker 13: head coach, but first year in Atlanta and Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 13: So maybe that helps his clock a little bit, that

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Speaker 13: the pressure's off that you get your quarterback now and

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Speaker 13: you don't have to worry about this other thing because

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Speaker 13: Kirk Cousins is there. But we just came up with Denver,

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Speaker 13: didn't we what's the cap hit for Russell Wilson that

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Speaker 13: didn't work out with all the money they paid him

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Speaker 13: big money, right, dead cap money. Now you talk about

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Speaker 13: one hundred million dollars guaranteed for Kirk Cousins and guys.

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Speaker 13: We can point to the examples where rookie quarterbacks have sat.

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Speaker 13: We could also point to way more examples where they

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Speaker 13: don't sit for long big play. My analogy is very

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Speaker 13: simply this at the holidays, however, you celebrate and worship

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Speaker 13: when those gifts are given. There's a certain day you're

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Speaker 13: supposed to open them, or a certain eight days you

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Speaker 13: open them, or a certain three days you open whatever

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Speaker 13: it is you worship. Right, do you wait two three

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Speaker 13: weeks past that date before you open them? No, you

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Speaker 13: open them immediately. When you draft a quarterback at number eight,

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Speaker 13: it's hard to envision him sitting for the duration of

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Speaker 13: Kirk cousins contract. So that's why this makes it a puzzler.

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Speaker 13: I can't wait for Atlanta to sit down and articulate

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Speaker 13: exactly what went down because I can't give you a

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Speaker 13: full answer on that. This was a roster that we

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Speaker 13: thought was ready to compete in the NFC South with

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Speaker 13: Kirk Cousins. Now you add another quarterback instead of an

989
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Speaker 13: edge rusher, which was desperately needed. I can't explain that.

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Speaker 13: I really can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, only four trades in round one last night, Charles.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were expecting more activity,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know whether it was teams in the

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Speaker 2: top ten said we're not moving, or they were saying

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Speaker 2: it's going to take a king's ransom. I think Minnesota

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Speaker 2: did a lot to help themselves with two of those

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Speaker 2: four trades. The Bills were involved in the other two,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get to those in a second. How do

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Speaker 2: you think Minnesota came out of this because they got

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Speaker 2: the quarterback and they got a pass rusher, which they

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Speaker 2: needed after the departure of Daniel Hunter.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that Minnesota came out of it very well.

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Speaker 13: And part of that, Chris, you and Maddie, let's see

1004
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Speaker 13: if you guys heard the same things that I heard.

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Speaker 13: At one point there was discussion of five trades in

1006
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Speaker 13: the top ten picks. Okay, so that was the fireworks

1007
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Speaker 13: that potentially could happen before we even started. We didn't

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Speaker 13: get that, as you pointed out, But Minnesota actually stared

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Speaker 13: down every one and played a little bit of chicken

1010
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Speaker 13: because they wanted a quarterback. We all knew it. They

1011
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Speaker 13: had two picks in the first round, and the crazy

1012
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Speaker 13: part was we thought they'd have to bundle both picks

1013
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Speaker 13: in order to go up and get them, you know,

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Speaker 13: get the quarterback they wanted. But they stared down teams. Okay,

1015
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Speaker 13: who were those teams? Well, at four Arizona said, you

1016
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Speaker 13: know something, we don't need to make a move and

1017
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Speaker 13: I'm sure Minnesota make the huge move there. But Arizona

1018
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Speaker 13: turned down proposals, I believe because they wanted Marvin Harrison

1019
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Speaker 13: junior five. The Chargers didn't like what they heard, stayed,

1020
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Speaker 13: got a big guy and Joe all Now the pressure

1021
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Speaker 13: is this one? Are you staring down the Giants? Could

1022
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Speaker 13: have been a lot to talk about quarterback for Joe

1023
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Speaker 13: Shane and Brian day Bowl, two men that you guys

1024
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Speaker 13: both know very well. Nope, they went and got the

1025
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Speaker 13: receiver of league neighbors, which totally fits Daves's personality, doesn't it.

1026
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Speaker 13: I mean, Dave's in the league. That's fantastic. I can't

1027
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Speaker 13: wait to watch that in alchemy. Watch them go and

1028
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Speaker 13: practice every day, and then you're getting on into seven.

1029
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Speaker 13: Eight is Atlanta, which was the major stunner. And boy,

1030
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Speaker 13: I guaranteed Minnesota jumped up and down and danced when

1031
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Speaker 13: they saw that happen because they were coming for a quarterback.

1032
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Speaker 13: But if Atlanta stuck and took one there, now we're

1033
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Speaker 13: other teams coming in where they less inclined. What was

1034
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Speaker 13: going on? And it turned out that Jets were the

1035
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Speaker 13: last stumbling block that you just had to jump up

1036
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Speaker 13: one spot to block off everyone else and get who

1037
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Speaker 13: you wanted because the Bears weren't going quarterback in nine

1038
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Speaker 13: boom game, set and match to got the guy they wanted.

1039
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Speaker 13: And I was told beforehand that Kevin O'Connell Minnesota were

1040
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Speaker 13: actually comfortable with five different quarterbacks, which is hard to believe.

1041
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Speaker 13: But Kevin O'Connell's belief in his ability to teach and coach,

1042
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Speaker 13: and we saw it on display last year, probably allows

1043
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Speaker 13: him to believe in five different guys. And they got

1044
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Speaker 13: the one that they were really happy about. And JJ

1045
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Speaker 13: McCarthy and as you pointed out, getting Jared Verse since

1046
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Speaker 13: Danil Hunters in Houston got someone to replace him, and

1047
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Speaker 13: Versus one of the top rated pass rushers, and oh boy,

1048
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Speaker 13: they got him later on. Didn't have to use the

1049
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Speaker 13: two picks to get one quarter used the two picks.

1050
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Speaker 13: Pretty nicely done.

1051
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Speaker 3: Hwh All off season, wide receivers were mocked to the

1052
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Speaker 3: Bills at number twenty eight or the Bills were projected

1053
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Speaker 3: to move up in the draft and draft a wide receiver,

1054
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Speaker 3: especially after they traded Stefan Diggs.

1055
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Speaker 2: Well.

1056
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Speaker 3: The Bills trade back twice last night, once with Kansas

1057
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Speaker 3: City moving down to thirty two and then again out

1058
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Speaker 3: of round one to number thirty three with the Carolina Panthers.

1059
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Speaker 3: That second trade, Why was that the right move for Buffalo?

1060
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Speaker 13: Well, Maddie first and foremost. I hope everyone can get there.

1061
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Speaker 13: Brian Thomas junior Jersey turned back in and get a

1062
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Speaker 13: refund because that was the mock draft picked d' juur,

1063
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Speaker 13: wasn't it. I know I was guilty of it. I

1064
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Speaker 13: think many others were guilty. It was almost like I

1065
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Speaker 13: talked to a number of people and kept saying, Brian

1066
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Speaker 13: Thomas going to get here, and everyone's permutations were he

1067
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Speaker 13: could go to Jacksonville at seventeen, he could go to

1068
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Speaker 13: Indianapolis at fifteen, he could go here and here, but

1069
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Speaker 13: almost everyone had him getting to the Bills at twenty eight.

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Speaker 13: I think some of it for all of us was

1071
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Speaker 13: kind of self fulfilling prophecy. The Bills need a wide receiver,

1072
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Speaker 13: they need a good wide receiver, and we manipulated our

1073
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Speaker 13: boards almost subconsciously. I think that the Bills would get

1074
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Speaker 13: their guy at twenty eight. All right, So that doesn't happen.

1075
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Speaker 13: So you stick and pick, and now you still have

1076
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Speaker 13: other opportunities to get receivers there. But here comes the deal.

1077
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Speaker 13: Kansas City wants to come up and get a receiver.

1078
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Speaker 13: And it's not because Brian Thomas is off the table.

1079
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Speaker 13: They want the speedster. Remember Andy Reid coach to Sean Jackson.

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Speaker 13: So this is what Xavier Worthy looks like. I didn't

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Speaker 13: have him in my first round in a mock. A

1082
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Speaker 13: number of other people did not as well, A number

1083
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 13: of other people did because you can't quit four two

1084
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 13: to one speed, all right? For two to one speed

1085
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 13: kind of trumps everything else. And that's where Worthy went.

1086
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 13: Andy with the experience with DeShawn, a slight receiver who

1087
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Speaker 13: can fly, he believes he can get the most out

1088
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Speaker 13: of him, and I don't doubt. I think my surprise

1089
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Speaker 13: was that Buffalo dealt with Kansas City. I mean as

1090
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Speaker 13: I mean, you know, these two deal with each other

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Speaker 13: on the field all the time. I think that was

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01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 13: kind of the surprise for all this was like Buffalo

1093
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 13: took that call and said, yeah, cool, and we gave

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Speaker 13: him Worthy, but the ability to move back was not

1095
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Speaker 13: going to hurt him much because a lot of the

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 13: receivers I think Buffalo's considering are of similar ilk. And

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Speaker 13: then here comes Carolina with a deal to move back

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01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 13: one more spot and have the first pick the next day.

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Speaker 13: Continue toll it over, See what else is out there,

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Speaker 13: See what other deals you can get. I understand what

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Speaker 13: Brandon Bean is doing. So if you start today and

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Speaker 13: receivers still in play, get ad Mitchell out of Texas,

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01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 13: Keon Coleman out of Florida State. I'm looking on my

1104
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Speaker 13: list here, Roman Wilson out of Michigan if you want

1105
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Speaker 13: to flyer, Troy Franklin, another slight receiver out of Oregon.

1106
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 13: Lad McConkie, the route technician, who is also another smaller guy.

1107
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Speaker 13: But those big, thick guys that are strong that I

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01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 13: would think would be the top two targets would be

1109
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Speaker 13: Keon Coleman and ad Ni Mitchell because those guys are bigger, stronger,

1110
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 13: heavier guys, which I think serves you in Buffalo. They

1111
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 13: will remind you more of Gabe Davis than anything else.

1112
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Speaker 13: And you guys know, Brandon Bean has said, hey, we

1113
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 13: might not need a wide receiver one. We just need

1114
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 13: good players, so that might be it. But I also

1115
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 13: look at the defense and I think all three levels

1116
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 13: could use players. Johnny Newton from Illinois is available all right,

1117
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 13: defensive tackle next, Dad Oliver. Linebackers, Okay, Mat Malano coming

1118
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 13: off of injury. I'm not sure that Tremaine Edmonds is there,

1119
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 13: but they would have the first choice at all, the

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Speaker 13: best inside linebackers, Peyton Wilson, North Carolina State Junior Colson Michigan,

1121
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 13: Edrin Cooper, Texas A and M. And we all know

1122
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 13: corners is a big, big deal and the corner market

1123
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Speaker 13: did not get not get etn up last night. You

1124
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Speaker 13: look at the corner market, Cooper de gene is still there, Cooley,

1125
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 13: mckinstreet enis Regstraw, Max Milton from Rutgers. Mike Sandrastill is

1126
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 13: a terrific slot corner. A lot of players can go,

1127
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 13: so everything's available for them. I also wouldn't think that

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 13: Buffalo would be a versa beeping up the offensive line

1129
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 13: at some point too, so I understood the moving back.

1130
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 13: I don't think they're giving up a lot or giving

1131
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 13: up a player that they just absolutely coveted, and they'll

1132
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 13: get the same type of player plus some additional assets

1133
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 13: with the moves.

1134
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: Last one for me, Charles, the reports were out there

1135
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: and floating around last night, including from your colleague and Rappaport,

1136
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: who was talking about.

1137
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 13: Brandon is Witney last night was working.

1138
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Ayuk and Deebo Samuel both the subject of

1139
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: trade rumors by San Francisco. They are reportedly fielding offers

1140
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: for both wide receivers. It sounds as though parting with

1141
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: a first round pick won't be necessary to land either

1142
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: one of those players. It might take a couple of twos,

1143
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: maybe a two and a three. How much do you

1144
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: think that changes the dynamic for a team that maybe

1145
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: didn't get a receiver on Night one, or maybe by

1146
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: the end of tonight doesn't pull in the receiver talent

1147
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: they were perhaps hoping, How could it change the conversation

1148
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 2: and perhaps accelerate a possible deal there?

1149
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, changing the conversation in a way, Chris of Okay,

1150
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 13: what is in our arsenal? What's in our pool that

1151
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 13: we can go get one of those guys with? And

1152
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 13: how does that guy fit with the vision we have

1153
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 13: of how we run offense? Or can we change it

1154
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 13: to skew it towards what they do best. It's those

1155
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 13: sorts of things. Because it's an interesting deal. It certainly

1156
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 13: sounds like San Francisco is making that choice. Between two

1157
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 13: children they really really love, right, which one do I

1158
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 13: love more? Which one do I get a better deal for?

1159
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 13: Which one do I keep? Which one? What do I

1160
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 13: let go? It's almost a parent trap. You get one,

1161
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 13: I get the other. Let's not talk to each other

1162
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 13: and let's see how they grow up, and they'll find

1163
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 13: each other when they're eighteen years old. It is one

1164
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 13: of the a strange saga. But the salary cap does

1165
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 13: that to us because San Francisco's done a really nice

1166
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 13: job of having discaruntaled players that they've gotten back in

1167
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 13: the fold or they've gotten out ahead of it, especially

1168
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 13: with the defensive linemen. Right those guys they just kind

1169
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 13: of shuffle through and get a new guy and trade

1170
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 13: one off and draft another one and off they go.

1171
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 13: So it changes the math that way. I would take

1172
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 13: a hard look at teams that are exciting, high flying,

1173
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 13: want to get at it right now, and what's really

1174
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 13: strange is within their division with San Francisco, be one

1175
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 13: to deal with Los Angeles. Think about that, because if

1176
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 13: you're adding a debo or you're adding a.

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Speaker 14: A a ayuk to what Puka Nakua and Cooper Cupp

1178
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 14: are putting up out there, that would be exciting, and

1179
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 14: Los Angeles has I think ten draft picks left in

1180
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 14: their in their arsenal this year, But I don't know

1181
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 14: that San Francisco would make a move within division that heavy.

1182
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Speaker 13: So you got to go outside of that and take

1183
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 13: a look and see what people want and.

1184
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Speaker 2: Really quick it just seems like they are willing to

1185
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: part with one one of those, and it was only

1186
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: emphasized by the selection of Ricky Piersaw last night.

1187
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, sounds like one of the two is interesting to me.

1188
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 13: Is that Piersaw to me is like if you say

1189
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 13: Deepot is this type of player, Brandon Ayuk is that

1190
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 13: type of player. Piersaow is like in between the two

1191
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 13: of them, So to me would have been a compliment

1192
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 13: for both of them, not necessarily a replacement for either

1193
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 13: one of them, because I don't think he is Ayyuk

1194
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 13: and I don't think I know he's not Debo, but

1195
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 13: he's a compliment between the two. So that just tells

1196
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 13: you that things are where they are salary cap wise,

1197
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 13: have to make a decision, have to make a move,

1198
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 13: and it sounds like one of them is going to

1199
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 13: go bye bye. Who jumps up and makes that move?

1200
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 13: And goes and gets them. And I know one thing

1201
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 13: the team you dealt with last night, Kansas City, I

1202
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 13: guarantee you the hit their quarterbacks be on the phone

1203
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 13: all night with the GM saying, if you can get

1204
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 13: me one of those guys. And by the way, you

1205
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 13: made me play for the last two years without guys

1206
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 13: who looked like that, how about a little love letter

1207
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 13: of roll fifteen please, I would keep a strong eye

1208
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Speaker 13: on Kansas City that way.

1209
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: Well, oh, brother, that's not good.

1210
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens over the next several hours. The

1211
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 3: rest of the AFC East drafted in Night one last night.

1212
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 3: The Patriots decided to stay at number three and drafted

1213
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: a quarterback, Drake May and then the Jets, who people

1214
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 3: thought they might draft tight end Brock Bauers. They decided

1215
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: to trade back and pick up an offensive tackle in

1216
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 3: Olufashanu out of Penn State, and then the Dolphins drafted

1217
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Speaker 3: at number twenty one. They got edge rusher Chop Robinson.

1218
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 3: Which AFC East team improved the most last night, I

1219
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 3: would say.

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Speaker 13: The Jets, because remember they got offensive tackles in free agency,

1221
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 13: but both of them are older and have had injuries.

1222
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 13: Morgan Moses answered the bell consistently in Washington. Last year's

1223
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 13: the first time he really missed some time. But now

1224
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 13: he's in his mid thirties, having coming off of injury

1225
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 13: plague season, he's your right tackle. Tyrone Smith is as

1226
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 13: good as left tackle as we have in the game

1227
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 13: when he's on his game, save Trent wins out in

1228
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 13: San Francisco. But how many times has he answered the

1229
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 13: bell for sixteen seventeen. He just doesn't.

1230
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Speaker 15: Right.

1231
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 13: It's unfortunate for him, but that's just not part of

1232
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 13: the deal. So for the Jets, that was not just

1233
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 13: a safety valve move. That's a move to ensure if

1234
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 13: we're going to do things we want to do, we

1235
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 13: got to make sure that Rogers was protected better because

1236
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 13: even before he got hurt in the first four plays

1237
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 13: last year, you guys saw the protection preseason. You saw

1238
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 13: hard knocks and saw he wasn't thrilled about what was

1239
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 13: going on out there. They had to shore things up

1240
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 13: up so to be as the Jets because the other

1241
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 13: pieces are fairly well in place, if Rogers can stay

1242
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,440
Speaker 13: healthy and play because they have used brock Bars absolutely,

1243
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 13: you know that, Maddie, he's a terrific player. But yeah,

1244
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 13: receiver was also a possibility, but taking care of Rogers

1245
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 13: superseded everything for them and they were able to move

1246
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 13: back and pick up assets on doing so. See the

1247
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 13: Dolphins was a screaming need. I mean, you guys know

1248
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 13: mid season last year what happened Jalen Phillips. He blew

1249
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 13: his achilles two minutes to go in the seventeenth ball

1250
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 13: game of the year. Last year, regular season, Bradley Chubb

1251
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 13: blew in acl Andrew ben Ginkel has been so good

1252
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 13: for them and so overlooked. He went free agency to Minnesota.

1253
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 13: That was one of those ones where you just looked

1254
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 13: at the pick and said, there's one edge rusher left. Guys,

1255
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 13: are we gonna get cute and you're gonna take him?

1256
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 13: And they took him. It was Chop Robinson. So all

1257
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 13: in all, I think it was the Jets out of

1258
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 13: the three because New England drafted the quarterback. But he's

1259
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 13: not walking into a situation where he's fired up about

1260
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 13: what's around him. They've got a lot of work to

1261
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 13: do to surround that young kid, Drake May with people

1262
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 13: who can make plays and scare people on defense. And

1263
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 13: Sean mcdermotd never tell you this but he can lose

1264
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 13: a wink of sleep over the last two years game

1265
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 13: planning for New England.

1266
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: Charles. Thanks as always, We'll keep an eye out for

1267
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 2: your coverage tonight on NFL Network. We look forward to it.

1268
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: Keep up the great work. We'll catch up with you

1269
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: later on the offseason. Thanks much for the time, all.

1270
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 13: Right, I appreciate you guys both very much. Say hello

1271
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 13: to everyone of the Bill's Mafia and you take care

1272
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 13: of it all.

1273
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: Right, Take it easy, Charles. That's Charles Davis joining us

1274
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 2: from the NFL on CBS and also part of NFL

1275
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: Networks coverage of the Draft. He'll be on the set

1276
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: for Night two tonight, breaking down the picks, the players

1277
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: they are, and the fits they are for the teams

1278
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: that pick them. I really don't know how he crams

1279
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 2: three hundred some odd people into no we can comment

1280
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: on them at the drop of a hat. I mean,

1281
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: I try to get up around one hundred. You do

1282
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: your one hundred and ten twenty people, but three hundred

1283
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: is insanity. You develop a whole new respect for NFL

1284
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: personnel departments. I'm like, how do they watch this much tape?

1285
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: My eyes just glaze over. I just I can't tell you.

1286
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: I can't even count on two hands how many times

1287
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: I've knotted off just watching tape. Yeah, I don't know

1288
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: how they stay awake. I need toothpicks to keep my

1289
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: eyelids on.

1290
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I talked to some NFL analysts around playoff time,

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Speaker 3: just seeing what they were up to, and people were

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Speaker 3: quite a bit of tape at that point, already to

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Speaker 3: get ready for the combine, which was at the end

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Speaker 3: of February. It's crazy how much tape you got to

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Speaker 3: grind and how early you have to start to get

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Speaker 3: ready for something that takes place at the end of April.

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Speaker 2: Definitely harder for us because we're still covering an active season,

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Speaker 2: so we really can't put Ken Seas into bed and yeah,

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Speaker 2: changed change your focus until the Bill season is over

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Speaker 2: and done with with fortune, which fortunately has gone a

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Speaker 2: little extra into the playoffs last several years. Let's get

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Speaker 2: back to the phones though. At eight oh three, oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 2: that's the number to get on board. It's an obl

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01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 2: fan Friday mailbag. Any question you have under the sun

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: on the draft, the Bills, the roster, the cap, whatever

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01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 2: the case might be fire them off at us, or

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01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 2: if you just have a comment on how night one went,

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 2: we'll welcome that as well. We go to a man

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Speaker 2: who's been waiting patiently, and that's Butcher on the east side.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Butch?

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Speaker 12: Hello, guys, and thanks so much for saking my call.

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Speaker 12: I just really want to talk real quick about a

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Speaker 12: couple of pieces. Number one already know I'm ecstatic about

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Speaker 12: Brandon Bean moving back. That's that's our You already know

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Speaker 12: that already. But I just wanted to say, you know,

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Speaker 12: it's like, it's a lot of good talented players out there,

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Speaker 12: and I want the Bills. I know people think the

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Speaker 12: Bills are not going to have maybe ten players or so,

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Speaker 12: are they going to probably big six or seven. I

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Speaker 12: would like I would like for them to go ahead

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Speaker 12: and try to get like fifteen, you know, pick up

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Speaker 12: pick up five more picks, take the thirty three move back,

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Speaker 12: pick up a couple more players today and then tomorrow

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Speaker 12: pick up some more picks and bring in like fifteen people.

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Speaker 12: Then you could get your undrafted creations. But it's a

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Speaker 12: couple of players that I want to speak about regarding

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Speaker 12: who I like. Number one is I like Kool Aid.

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Speaker 12: I wish they could gohead and get the kid from

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Speaker 12: Alabama long corner. Also, you already know I like JPJ.

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01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 12: But tomorrow though, guys, and I really want you guys

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Speaker 12: to think about this that I would like for them

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Speaker 12: to look at maybe in the fifth round and bringing

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Speaker 12: Joe Milton the third quarterback out of Tennessee. Let them

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Speaker 12: be a third stream court behind Forbrisky and Josh, and

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Speaker 12: then after a couple of years, after the busy contract expires,

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Speaker 12: go ahead and move them up to behind the end.

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Speaker 12: You can groom me a quarterback behind Josh Allen, you know,

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Speaker 12: to be a backup. And I just like again, I'm

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Speaker 12: just I'm ecstatic. You know, I'll still see my man

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 12: a lot of the CONTI out there, but see Jackson,

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Speaker 12: Tayler Johnson is my guy tonight and kool Aid. I

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Speaker 12: want them, and then got Devonte Sweat. If you can

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Speaker 12: get those three and then maybe some other pixulator and

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Speaker 12: get Joe later on O day three, I think it's

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Speaker 12: to be exciting. I think a lot of these fans

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01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 12: who are who really don't know. And Chris, you know,

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna say this to you Maddie, you're gonna say

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Speaker 12: both of you guys know then I'm get off the phone.

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Speaker 9: I thank you.

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Speaker 12: Is that you know, when you go to practice, it's

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01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 12: a certain time that they allow you to stay there,

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 12: and you guys have to leave and then they'll start practicing.

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Speaker 6: You don't know.

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Speaker 12: Brandon Bean is always there. He knows what's in that

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01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 12: wide receiver's room. He knows what those wide receivers do,

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 12: probably more than we do. With Cosna's players never played

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01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 12: on an active list. It was on a practice squad.

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Speaker 12: So I just said, you know, I tell all these

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Speaker 12: things just kind of to trust trust assistant trust Brandon

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01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 12: be I think this is gonna be the biggest draft

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01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 12: class he's ever bought in here, and I think you're

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Speaker 12: gonna have some quality players. But thank you so much

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01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 12: for taking my call. I love MSG, I love w Jen,

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 12: I love the fans.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Butch. I think Butch is in the Stark minority.

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01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: He is after a center or a cornerback, a corner

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Speaker 2: and a defensive tackle for all of their picks at

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01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: night too. That's what he wants, a center, a corner,

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Speaker 2: and a defensive tackle. That he is in the minority.

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Speaker 6: I love you, man.

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Speaker 2: If you can find somebody else to buddy up with

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 2: you with those same three desires in terms of positional picks,

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: that would be a miracle in this city because there

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: are people out there that say receiver all the way.

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Speaker 2: They don't come out with a receiver tonight. We're really

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01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: going to have a fun show come Monday. I'll just

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: say that he might be right.

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01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,839
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens tonight.

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: Anything's possible, but I have to believe receiver is on

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: the radar in some way, shape or form, whether it's

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: one of these three picks or a trade. So we'll

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: have to see if that's something that bubbles to the

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: surface as well. Gotta take a break here, but we're

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: wide open for your phone calls for the next half

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Speaker 2: hour at eight oh three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eighty eight, five point fifty two, five point fifty, So

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Speaker 2: hop on board where we have open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls. Next on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: welcome back One Bill's Live as we prepare for nine

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Speaker 2: two of the NFL Draft and the first Bill's Selection

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four draft, Chris Brown, Maddy lab

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Speaker 2: with you taking your phone calls at eight oh three

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01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

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01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: two five point fifty on this OBL Fan Friday mail bag,

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01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: any question under the sun fired off at us. We

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Speaker 2: begin with Ryan in Toronto. What you got first? Ryan?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 16: Thrust many love the show because I called yesterday about

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01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 16: taking a dude. To be honest, man, I don't think

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01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 16: drafting a wide receiver brand being at the Brandon Bean's DNA.

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 16: The reason I say that, you know he had operate

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01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 16: to draft uh Stefan Sorry Jefferson, he tailed for Stefan Diggs,

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01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 16: and I think only for the receiver you picked as

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01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 16: Gay Davis.

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Speaker 8: On the fourth round.

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Speaker 16: And to be honest, even tonight, I wouldn't be surprised

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 16: if he's see Goes on the defensive side, because if

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Speaker 16: you're going to take a receiver on thirty third pick,

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 16: I don't see why he wouldn't have done it in

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 16: thirty two or even twenty eight. I just want you

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Speaker 16: get thoughts on it.

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard to know. I mean we

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01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: can't crawl into Brandon's brain and we also don't have

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01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 2: the privilege of seeing the board and how that looks

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01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: in terms of number of defensive prospects in comparison to

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: number offsive prospects. I mean, he told us last night

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01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: after the first round ended, he was fully prepared to

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: pick at thirty two, and then this opportunity arose when

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01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: Dan Morgan called him the GM from the Panthers and said, hey,

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01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: I can give you this if you'll let me come

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01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: up one pick, and he said, sounds good to me.

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01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Moving back one pick, I don't think

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: changes the dynamic of what they were looking at at

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: thirty two. So I think if they stick and stay

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01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: at thirty three and make the selection, I don't get

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 2: the sense that it's going to deviate too far away

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01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: from the thoughts they had at thirty two, unless it

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Speaker 2: was Xavier Lagette. And by Brandon Bean's reaction last night,

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Speaker 2: just looking at his demeanor, I didn't get the sense

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01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 2: that somebody came off the board. He didn't think.

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01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 3: Would Yeah, if they wanted somebody at the end of

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 3: that first round, they would have drafted there. They would

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Speaker 3: have stayed at twenty eight, or they would have drafted

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01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 3: at thirty two. The reason why they moved back is

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 3: because they believe they can still get a player that

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 3: they like on their board with a second round grade,

1440
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 3: and they also add some draft capital. They move up

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01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 3: in the draft in different spots, and they moved up

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 3: thirty eight spots in that first trade. They move up

1443
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 3: twenty seventh spots in that first trade with the seventh

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Speaker 3: round pick, and then they move up fifty nine spots

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01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 3: with that second pick. So they believe that the value

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01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: that they were able to get at that spot was

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Speaker 3: worth moving back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I understand why history convinces you that Brandon

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01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 2: Bean doesn't like taking receivers early, because his history has

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01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: said the exact opposite. You know, He's got Khalil Shakir

1451
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: in the fifth round, Isaiah Hodgens in the sixth round,

1452
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: Justin Shorter in the fifth round, and then Gabe Davis

1453
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: in the fourth round. You know, is the highest that

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01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: he's ever taken a receiver. I understand the direction that

1455
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: that history points you, but I don't know if you

1456
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: can use past drafts as an indication of future results.

1457
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 2: And proof of that is what happened last night. Four

1458
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: of the six drafts that he has overseen for the Bills.

1459
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: He has traded up, and one of those drafts he

1460
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: didn't even have a first round pick. So, for all

1461
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: intents and purposes, in five of the six drafts he's

1462
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: overseen for the Bills, he's traded up, which is why

1463
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 2: everybody under the sun last night thought he was trading

1464
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: up again. And what did he do. He did the opposite.

1465
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: He traded back twice. So don't use past performance to

1466
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: guarantee you of what the future is going to hold.

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 2: I think they will find a receiver tonight. I'm not

1468
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: going to guarantee that it's going to be the pick

1469
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: at thirty three, but it could be. I think one

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Speaker 2: of these next two picks, either thirty three and sixty,

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: are going to be a receiver. Because the confidence with

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01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: which he slid back into Round two, and the greater

1473
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 2: number of second round graded players that he has than

1474
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: he had at his disposal in the first round with

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01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: first round grades tells me that he's going to swing

1476
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 2: here tonight, somewhere, So we shall see. Let's head back

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01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: to the phones and we go to Anthony and Amherst.

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01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:11,480
Speaker 17: What's up, Anthony, Hey, how you guys doing this this afternoon?

1479
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: We're living.

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01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 17: Understandable. I got a couple of points here, if you

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01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 17: don't mind me taking the floor for just a couple

1482
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 17: of seconds here, because as a true Avid Bills fan,

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01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 17: I'm thirty one years old and I just feel at

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 17: this current point in my life, I've been lied to

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01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 17: by the organization itself. Now, let me explain the beginning

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 17: of last year being I think Terry Pagoula was there.

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 17: I mean, he's been kind of irrelevant as an owner

1488
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 17: in my opinion, But in the beginning of the last

1489
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 17: season they addressed this whole thing with Diggs and Allen

1490
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 17: not being on the same page. Everything is ko sure,

1491
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 17: there's nothing to worry about, and then here we are.

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01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 17: The season plays out, had him in Fantasy God does

1493
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 17: pretty well for the first couple of weeks, and then

1494
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 17: fades out at the end. You could see that both

1495
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 17: of them were frustrated they couldn't get anything together. And

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01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 17: then the last portion of the season that all of

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01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 17: us Bills fans remember Stefan Diggs is him dropping the

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01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 17: ball and then to point himself on his chest like

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Speaker 17: it's my fall. So as far as the media, the

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Speaker 17: Bill's front office, as far as looking into that camera

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Speaker 17: on WIVB and looking into and twelling the twelfth Man

1502
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 17: that there was nothing wrong with these two players. It's

1503
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 17: an absolute croc and in my opinion, I feel like

1504
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 17: I've been lied to now here draft being he is

1505
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 17: a pretty good mindset up on his shoulders. But here's

1506
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 17: where I'm coming into play. Why do you think that

1507
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 17: we have to overpay players to come to Buffalo or

1508
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 17: have them come here on big contracts and big names.

1509
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 17: Von Miller that's another big contract. Why do we have

1510
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 17: to do this? And here's the reason why. Being a

1511
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 17: mc dermott look at it like this, it's in member

1512
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 17: and all in and believe in the process for the

1513
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 17: past six years. But if they were not Let's say,

1514
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 17: for instance, hypothetically Josh Allen did not work out, do

1515
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 17: you think that people would like himself or McDermott would care.

1516
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 17: The fans would because we overpaid for a player. But

1517
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 17: McDermott and Bean they're gonna be good as gone here

1518
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 17: in two years, in et cetera if that were to

1519
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 17: not pan out. So what do they really have to

1520
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 17: lose with holding the cards that are key to this

1521
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 17: crucial bills organization? That's trying to get over the hump,

1522
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 17: and then they give a draft pick for a bag of

1523
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 17: rice to the Kansas City chief. I feel like Andy

1524
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 17: Reid is sitting there eating cheeseburgers this afternoon and it's

1525
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 17: eleven forty in the morning because of the two hour

1526
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 17: times differ. Instan He's just panned it on the back,

1527
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 17: and I'm just so utterly frustrated because I look forward

1528
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 17: to looking at this season in the beginning, as soon

1529
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 17: as you know, the summer camps come up, and I

1530
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 17: just I'm finding a hard time getting myself excited for

1531
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 17: this new and upcoming season. And the gentleman that would

1532
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 17: just called in from Toronto, as far as the comments

1533
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 17: that he made about drafting wide receivers and et cetera.

1534
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 17: As far as my opinion drafting, I think the best

1535
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 17: wide receiver the Bills have drafted in the past ten years,

1536
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 17: I think that was Sammy Watkins. I'm really interested in.

1537
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,440
Speaker 17: I need some clarification as far as helping me understand

1538
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 17: what this office is actually trying to do, because most

1539
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 17: teams have an owner that stands up there that backs

1540
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 17: to actual media, the front office and the twelfth man,

1541
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 17: and it's been completely irrelevant. And I understand Kim Pigoul

1542
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 17: has been kind of sick and et cetera.

1543
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 9: I get it.

1544
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 17: She had owned the Sabers and et cetera. We ran

1545
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 17: over with that, but I need.

1546
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: You to wrap it up, Anthony. We got people holding Okay.

1547
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 17: Now you're good. It's fine. Give me what you guys

1548
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 17: got as far as clarification to help me understand on

1549
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 17: this glorious Friday.

1550
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, Anthony, And I'm sorry. I didn't mean

1551
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: to cut you off there. Look I think what you

1552
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: I understand the frustration. You've waited three and a half

1553
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: months to see a receiver get drafted. It didn't happen

1554
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 2: last night. And then the Bills traded with the Chiefs.

1555
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: Like I said earlier in the show, a general manager

1556
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: of a football team is not overly concerned with whom

1557
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: they're trading with because they don't see it the same

1558
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 2: way a fan does. A fan says, oh my god,

1559
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: how do you even do business with the Kansas City Chiefs?

1560
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: That is preposterous And it just doesn't work that way

1561
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: within the framework of front office dealings. They just don't

1562
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: see it the same way you do. And Brandon, I

1563
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: thought explained it pretty effectively last night. Whether the Bills

1564
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: did a trade with the Chiefs was kind of immaterial,

1565
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: because if they didn't do a deal with the Bills,

1566
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: they would have tried to do a deal with somebody

1567
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 2: else and would have gotten up and given the requisite

1568
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 2: draft capital necessary to take the player they wanted. I

1569
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: know people are all enamored with Xavier Worthy because he

1570
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 2: ran a four to two one four, and I totally

1571
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 2: get it, but I'm not crazy about Xavier Worthy. I

1572
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 2: was glad that he did not go to the Bills

1573
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: because I don't know how one hundred and sixty five

1574
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 2: pound player is going to last seventeen games in a

1575
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: season playing in this league. I think it's going to

1576
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,839
Speaker 2: be very challenging. We know Andy Reid is a magician

1577
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: with the scheming, and we know he's playing with the

1578
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: best quarterback in football in Patrick Mahomes. All due respect

1579
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: to Josh Allen, but the bottom line for me is

1580
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 2: you can't convince me otherwise that Brandon Bean comes to

1581
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 2: this office every day doing his level best to make

1582
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: this team as good as it possibly can be. And

1583
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: if you don't believe that, I would just encourage you

1584
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: to look at the moves that he has made, not

1585
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 2: only in the draft, but during the season when they

1586
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: had injuries at cornerback. He didn't just sit on his hands.

1587
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 2: He traded away a third round pick at the trade

1588
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 2: deadline for a veteran corner in Rasuell Douglas, who was

1589
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: phenomenal for this football team when they didn't get everything

1590
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: that they wanted in the draft last year. In May

1591
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: and June, he added another defensive tackle in Poona Ford

1592
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: and got Leonard Floyd in June, and he had a

1593
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: ten and a half SAX season. So you can run

1594
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: down the list of whatever list of things that you

1595
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 2: have that bother you and get under your skin, and

1596
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: that's fine. You have a right to your opinion and

1597
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: to be a fan in whatever way you see fit.

1598
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: But I'm just going to tell you be careful of

1599
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: what you're saying, because if you were here for the

1600
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 2: whole seventeen years drought, you know that this is the

1601
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: best front office head coaching tandem we've had since Levy

1602
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 2: and Pollion. And if you disagree with that, then I

1603
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: don't think you're paying close enough attention. This crew is

1604
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,440
Speaker 2: a good crew to keep this team a perennial contender.

1605
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: Have they gotten over the hump?

1606
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 6: No?

1607
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: Is it frustrating, absolutely, But there's thirty other teams trying

1608
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: to do the same thing the Bills are doing, and

1609
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have had a stranglehold on this thing. So

1610
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 2: I know it's frustrating, but you just got to keep

1611
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 2: knocking on the door and eventually you'll knock it over.

1612
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: And I have full belief that being McDermott, the personnel

1613
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: department and the money being spent by Terry Pagoula is

1614
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: eventually going to pay off. And I'm sorry I gobbled

1615
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:19,919
Speaker 2: up all the time.

1616
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: As a GM, as a head coach, things aren't always

1617
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: going to pan out how you want them to. But

1618
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 3: it's how you adjust. And this general manager and scouting

1619
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 3: department and coaching staff and Sean McDermott, they have adjusted

1620
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 3: pretty well when things don't go how you imagine they would.

1621
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: The injuries last year, they went to go get guys.

1622
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,520
Speaker 3: They schemed guys in to play a different defense that worked.

1623
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 3: These guys are so smart at what they do. Four

1624
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 3: straight AFC East titles. It is not September yet, the

1625
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 3: roster is not finished yet. Let's wait to see what

1626
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 3: he does tonight and tomorrow.

1627
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at least let him finish the draft

1628
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: before you start screaming bloody murder about everything. And there's

1629
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 2: only two teams in football that have made the playoffs

1630
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: each of the last five years. It's the Chiefs and

1631
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: the Bills. That's it, nobody else. So I understand you're

1632
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 2: frustrated that they didn't get to the end of the

1633
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: road and they're not hoisting the trophy at the end.

1634
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 2: But they've been right there every dang year and there's

1635
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: no reason to think they're not going to do it again.

1636
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: So got to take a break here, but we'll take

1637
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls when we get back here

1638
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. Stay with us, all right. We

1639
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier this hour in our time with Charles Davis

1640
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: that Brandon Ayuk and Deebo Samuel have been shopped by

1641
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers for trade and could

1642
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: something materialize, especially for a team like the Bills who

1643
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 2: did not come up with a receiver in Round one, Maddie,

1644
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,759
Speaker 2: what is crossing the wires right now from some national reporters.

1645
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 3: Boston sports journal writer Mike Giardi is reporting that there's

1646
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 3: a lot of talk about Brandon Ayuk possibly being moved,

1647
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 3: but league sources are indicating that Deepo Samuel's more likely

1648
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,759
Speaker 3: to be traded. At this point. Two of the teams

1649
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 3: at the top round two, Buffalo and New England have

1650
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: interest in that player.

1651
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh, so there you go. We'll see. I don't think

1652
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 2: a trade is out of the question just yet, and

1653
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 2: you want to weigh that. I guess Samuel would probably

1654
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: be the player that San Francisco would feel more comfortable

1655
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: moving on from since he's twenty eight years old and

1656
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: Ayuk is only twenty six, so we'll have to see

1657
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 2: who could be had for a lesser price. Presumably Samuel

1658
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: would not cost as much. He is set to make

1659
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: almost twenty one million in base salary this year that

1660
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: would obviously have to be changed for a team like

1661
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: the Bills, and then he has one year remaining on

1662
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: his current deal after that in twenty twenty five, to

1663
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: the tune of sixteen point six million base salary, So

1664
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 2: there would have to be some financial maneuvering as well,

1665
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 2: but it's not out of the realm of possibility, so

1666
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 2: we'll have to see where that goes through the course

1667
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: of today as well. In the meantime, we get back

1668
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,759
Speaker 2: to the phones and we go to Judy in Buffalo.

1669
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: What's up, Judy?

1670
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 18: Okay, well, thankfully, I fell asleep during the first round

1671
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 18: last night. The point I want to make is, you know,

1672
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 18: two thirds of those players will become very inconsequential. The

1673
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 18: one third that may have sur potential. Most of them

1674
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 18: made it because they played against deficient teams. Okay, I

1675
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 18: want to talk number one draft choices, Josh Allen at

1676
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 18: Oliver Okay, Josh Allen, Star Star, Beyond Beyond belief at

1677
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 18: Oliver Good. I'm hoping for Elon this year, even though

1678
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 18: they took him over my man Christian Watson. All Right,

1679
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 18: So the point is, you know, it's a swapshoot. I

1680
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 18: was gonna say something else, but it's a swap shoot.

1681
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 18: And I'm also wondering about Shorter on the practice squad.

1682
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 18: If he has any potential, the Bills are going to

1683
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 18: get their receiver. They're going to get another receiver. That's

1684
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 18: what I'm asking them to do.

1685
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks Judy, appreciate the phone call. Yeah,

1686
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 2: we don't know about Justin Shorter. Once they put him

1687
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 2: on IR, he couldn't even practice with the team, so

1688
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 2: the coaching staff didn't even get to see him practice

1689
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 2: with the rest of the squad. So the evil, I

1690
01:31:58,560 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 2: think in terms of what he can do with this

1691
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: level is still the jury is still very much out,

1692
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: but he's gonna get every opportunity to make a good

1693
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 2: impression through the course of the spring and obviously training

1694
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: camp in the preseason. And you know, he brings some

1695
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 2: intriguing tools to the table, so it'll be interesting to

1696
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 2: see what he can provide. And the last fifth round

1697
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 2: pick and wide receiver has turned out to be pretty

1698
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: damn good in Khalil Shakir. Maybe they get as fortunate

1699
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: with Justin Shorter and then they could really be in business.

1700
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think it should be dismissed out

1701
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,440
Speaker 2: of hand. And to your point, Judy, you know, sometimes

1702
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: first round wide receivers don't work out. I'm going to

1703
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 2: list some second round wide receivers of the last few years.

1704
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 2: Jaden Reid, Rashi Rice, and Marvin Mims last year, all

1705
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: taken in round two. Your man, Judy, Christian Watson, George Pickens,

1706
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce. Second round picks in twenty twenty two, twenty

1707
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 2: twenty everybody remembers that second round Crew T Higgins, Michael Pittman,

1708
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 2: Van Jefferson twenty nineteen, Deebo, Samuel J. Brown, DK metcalf All,

1709
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 2: second round draft choices twenty eighteen, Courtland Sutton and Christian

1710
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 2: Kirk twenty seventeen, Curtis Samuel and Juju Smith Schuster. You

1711
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 2: can get quality receivers, especially in a draft class like

1712
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 2: this in round number two. Let's go to Andrew in

1713
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: DC next.

1714
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 19: What's up Andrew, Hey, and Chris and Maddie, thanks so

1715
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 19: much for having me on Sure. I want to say

1716
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 19: that I love, love, love what Brandon did last night.

1717
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 19: I'm so happy with it. And I think Brandon's been

1718
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 19: taking tips from you.

1719
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 12: Chris. I was listening to you back in February March,

1720
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 12: and you were saying, look, can't be sure how these

1721
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 12: guys are panas, So you can't sell the farm to

1722
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 12: move up for a guy you're not even sure of.

1723
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 12: So Brandon doesn't do that. Not only that, you say, look,

1724
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 12: maybe we got to get two receivers and a d

1725
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 12: lineman because I'm not sure how these receivers are going

1726
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 12: to work out it. And what does Brandon do? He

1727
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 12: gets us a third round pick so that he can

1728
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 12: do it. And then on top off of that, yesterday

1729
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 12: a caller called in and said, well, maybe we should

1730
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 12: move back, but you said, hey, you know, aren't you

1731
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 12: a little bit worried about moving back when there's going

1732
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 12: to be a run on receivers at the beginning of

1733
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 12: the second round. So what does Brandon do he gets

1734
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 12: the first kick in the second round. I think Brandon's

1735
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 12: been listening to you, and I think it's great. I

1736
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 12: hope we go receiver receiver D line or receiver D

1737
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 12: line receiver with our next three picks. And I think

1738
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 12: Brandon's been taking some great invites from you, Chris, and

1739
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 12: I want to know what both of you think about that,

1740
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 12: because I love what we did last night.

1741
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew. The check is in the mail. I

1742
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 2: think you're giving me way too much credit. Brandon Bean

1743
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 2: knows more about football and personnel evaluation than I've He's

1744
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 2: forgotten more about personnel evaluation that I know. So yeah,

1745
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 2: he is. I assure you he is not listening to me.

1746
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 2: I can almost guarantee that if he is, it's by accident.

1747
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 2: He knows how to work the draft very well. I

1748
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 2: think his history demonstrates that, and even though he went

1749
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 2: in a different direction than probably everybody anticipated, let's see

1750
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 2: if it pays off. I think there's a chance for

1751
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: it to pay very good dividends for the Bills tonight.

1752
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 2: And I'm with you, though, I would be over the

1753
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 2: moon if they get two receivers and one defensive lineman tonight.

1754
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 2: I would be ecstatic with that. I could even be

1755
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 2: talked into a linebacker at the bottom round two because

1756
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: I love Edrin Cooper and I love Peyton Wilson. So yeah,

1757
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: you want to go two receivers tonight, I'm just telling

1758
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 2: you the offer still stands. We draft two receivers back

1759
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 2: to back. I'm running a lap around the building. So

1760
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 2: if they go thirty three and sixty wide receiver, I'm

1761
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 2: running laps around this building. I'll run with the Bills flag.

1762
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'll be that happy. You got anything

1763
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: to add to.

1764
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 3: That, Well, let's wait and see what happens. Brandon Bean

1765
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,839
Speaker 3: doesn't trade out of the first round and be like, oops,

1766
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what I did there. I don't know

1767
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 3: why I did that. He trades back with the plan.

1768
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 3: General manager has a plan, and we can trust what

1769
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 3: he's gonna do. I'm excited for tonight.

1770
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but our number three will

1771
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 2: begin with our good friend from NFL Films, Greg co Cell.

1772
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna break down with him some of the best

1773
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 2: of the receiver class still on the board. Knowing the

1774
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 2: Bills are effectively on the clock. We'll get to Greg

1775
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: co Cell next. Here on One Bill's Live presented by

1776
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 2: Colida Health.

1777
01:36:24,880 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 20: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1778
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by call lighta Health.

1779
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number three on Day

1780
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 2: two of the NFL Draft. Chris Brown, Matti Lab with you,

1781
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 2: and please to welcome in our good friend Greg Cosel,

1782
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 2: senior producer from NFL Films, who has broken down some

1783
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,520
Speaker 2: of the receiver prospects way back at the NFL Combine

1784
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 2: with us. But it's time to revisit some of these

1785
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 2: prospects now that the Bills are on the clock for

1786
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 2: all intents and purposes for tonight's Day two of the

1787
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 2: Draft or Night two of the Draft, and there is

1788
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 2: plenty of receiver talents still on the board. Greg, how

1789
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 2: are you you got enough? Sleeper just stay up to

1790
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 2: night I.

1791
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 6: Did not Chris sof I fall asleep during this segment,

1792
01:37:55,920 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 6: you'll understand, you know, well you use the term on

1793
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 6: the clock. I don't know if what that means with

1794
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 6: the Bills these days.

1795
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they moved a couple of times last night,

1796
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 2: as you well know. Yeah, and now they hold the

1797
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 2: first pick here at thirty three. They also hold pick

1798
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: sixty down near the bottom of round two, three picks

1799
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 2: in total here on night two of the draft. And

1800
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 2: there was some trepidation Greg about moving back to this

1801
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: area because a lot of these teams at the top

1802
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: of round two are deemed to have receiver needs. There

1803
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: is expected to be a run on receivers here early

1804
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 2: in the round. But let's begin with some of the

1805
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 2: guys that are still on the board that the Bills

1806
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 2: will have a look at, at least if they stay

1807
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 2: put here at thirty three. And I know we've talked

1808
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: about ad Mitchell before. I know there are some character

1809
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 2: things that have popped up around the league that's been

1810
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 2: reported on him. Maybe that's why he's still on the board.

1811
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: But talent wise, he's kind of the total package.

1812
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 6: He is. And I did speak with a coach who

1813
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 6: didn't mention to me that there were some significant character concerns.

1814
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 6: Every team sees those kinds of things differently. But the

1815
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 6: same coach also told me that he was his number

1816
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 6: three receiver on the board ahead of a doomsday. So

1817
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 6: you're dealing with a guy that is really gifted. I

1818
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 6: felt again just watching tape, which is what I do,

1819
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 6: and a lot of these guys I see earlier in

1820
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 6: the process before I have any conversations with coaches, and

1821
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 6: I thought, you, when you looked at Mitchell's tape, I

1822
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 6: thought that he's the kind of receiver that could be

1823
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 6: a top ten receiver in the league within a couple

1824
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 6: of years. I mean, six two two oh five were

1825
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 6: in a four to three four, really strong athletic testing measurables,

1826
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 6: caught balls in the middle of the field, has vertical ability.

1827
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 6: There really isn't a trait that he does not have

1828
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 6: as a receiver.

1829
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 3: And then there's also Kean Coleman, who's sticking out out

1830
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 3: of Florida State. He had eleven receiving touchdowns last season,

1831
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 3: a tall wide receiver as well, six four two fifteen.

1832
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 3: Why might he be a good fit for the Bills

1833
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 3: at the top of the second round.

1834
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Maddie, I thought he was an interesting guy. I

1835
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 6: kept going back and forth on him. I think there's

1836
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 6: a lot to unlock with Coleman. I don't think he's

1837
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 6: sudden or twitchy. He's not that kind of guy. He's

1838
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 6: more measured and methodical in his movement. He's not truly

1839
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 6: a vertical guy, but he's big. He can go up

1840
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 6: and get the football. You know. He can make those

1841
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 6: kinds of crowded environment catches that you have to be

1842
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 6: able to make in the NFL, and that's probably the

1843
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 6: strength of his game. I wouldn't say that he's stiff

1844
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 6: by any means, but he's not a loose, fluid guy.

1845
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 6: I just think there's something there that can be developed.

1846
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 6: But I kept going back and forth on him. I'm

1847
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 6: not surprised he was not taken in the first round.

1848
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people thought he might be.

1849
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 6: It did not surprise me because I imagine I wouldn't be

1850
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 6: the only one watching his tape coming away with kind

1851
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 6: of the thoughts that, hey, there's something there, but I'm

1852
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 6: just not sure.

1853
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1854
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 7: Uh.

1855
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 2: A guy that intrigues me is Jalen Polk. Sturdy build

1856
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 2: a fantastic catch radius. I really like the way he

1857
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: widens on those sideline routes and gets separation from the defender.

1858
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 2: There seems to be a physicality to his game that's appealing.

1859
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 2: Greg and I like the fact that he plays big

1860
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: and big games. I mean the sweep of Oregon. He

1861
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 2: had eleven for one to seventy five and two touchdowns

1862
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 2: in the season sweep of Oregon, and then he had

1863
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 2: five for one two and a touchdown in the semi

1864
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: final against Texas.

1865
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, my sense watching Polk is that you're

1866
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 6: dealing with a guy that the foundation is what you

1867
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 6: just said, Brownie. This guy's got great hands. He's got

1868
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 6: outstanding ability to contort his body and make tough contested

1869
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 6: catches away from his frame. It's evident watching his tape

1870
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 6: that he plays with a physical edge. He can function

1871
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 6: through contact. He's just not There's not a lot of

1872
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 6: juice to him. That's the you know, the only thing.

1873
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 6: But you know that going in you're not drafting him

1874
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 6: to be a big time vertical dimension. He's not a

1875
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 6: sudden explosive mover. He's a little bit one speed. He

1876
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 6: doesn't really have an extra gear he's but he's very

1877
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 6: physical and he catches everything he has really really good hands.

1878
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 6: You know, the player he kind of reminded me of.

1879
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 6: And this player you'll know him. He used to be

1880
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 6: in your division. He had his best year this year

1881
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 6: with another team. Uh, but he kind of reminded me

1882
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 6: of how Jacobe Myers developed as an NFL receiver. You know, big, physical,

1883
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,560
Speaker 6: catches everything, tough kid. You know, Pope might be a

1884
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 6: little better than that, but he's that stat style of receiver.

1885
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 6: But he kind of grew on me. I had to

1886
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 6: keep watching him, Brownie, and he kind of grew on me.

1887
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 6: I kind of like Jalen Polk.

1888
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just seems to make plays. I mean, he's

1889
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 2: not elite physical traits, but he makes plays and he's

1890
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 2: big enough and tough enough. I don't know, he.

1891
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 6: Catches the football and he makes tough catches.

1892
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1893
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 3: Well, what about another Washington wide receiver. There's Jalen McMillan

1894
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 3: who is still available as well. He had five touchdown

1895
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 3: last touchdowns last season and can create some space. He's

1896
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 3: got some build up speed as well. What separates him

1897
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 3: from some of the other wide receivers that are still available.

1898
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny, Maddy, because last summer I do this

1899
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 6: every summer, I watch guys who are likely to be

1900
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 6: in the draft the next year, just so I can

1901
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 6: get kind of a feel for certain guys. I try

1902
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 6: to get through maybe fifty or seventy guys. And I

1903
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 6: watched McMillan last summer summer of twenty three with his

1904
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,480
Speaker 6: twenty two tape, and of course I watched Rome Adoonsay

1905
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 6: as well, and off his twenty twenty two season. I

1906
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 6: came away watching McMillan's tape thinking, this guy's really really good.

1907
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 6: And then he got hurt a lot this year and

1908
01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 6: so he didn't play as much. He's got real good

1909
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 6: length to him. He's six 's one. He's very smooth

1910
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 6: and fluid. Probably not explosive in a strict sense, but

1911
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 6: he's he's got deceptive play speed. He's an intermediate guy.

1912
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 6: There is a vertical dimension to him as well, although

1913
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 6: you wouldn't call him a burner. So I really like

1914
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 6: Jalen McMillan, you know. I think he's a really intriguing guy.

1915
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 6: He was a big time recruit when he went to

1916
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 6: U DUB. I just watching him move. There's a certain

1917
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 6: smoothness to him that's deceptive, I mean, and because he's

1918
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 6: six 't one. He has stride lengths as well, and

1919
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 6: I think he has really good route control. I think

1920
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 6: he knows how to attack and break down corners of

1921
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 6: safeties and separate at the top of his route stem.

1922
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 6: He is, to me, was one of the most intriguing

1923
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 6: wide receivers I watched in this draft class.

1924
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 2: Do you like Polk or McMillan better?

1925
01:44:55,439 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 6: They're totally different, they are. Yeah, how about?

1926
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: How about how about fit for the Bills? Who do

1927
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 2: you think is a better fit for the Bills? Poker,

1928
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 2: McMillan and what they need?

1929
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 6: I would some could disagree. I would probably say McMillan.

1930
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 2: Okay, because he's a little more diversal too.

1931
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,640
Speaker 6: I think you can do more with McMillan in the

1932
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 6: context of your offense. Right.

1933
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 13: Uh.

1934
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 2: Troy Franklin is a guy that does have juice slight framed,

1935
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, which always kind of makes you wonder a

1936
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 2: little bit. Can he get through a seventeen game season?

1937
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: But this guy has unquestionable juice and had a monster,

1938
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 2: monster season for Oregon?

1939
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 6: Yeah No, This guy at this moment in time is

1940
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 6: a vertical dimension. So the question is can he be

1941
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 6: more than that? As he develops and that's then you

1942
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 6: once you get to you know, do your due diligence

1943
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 6: more than I can do. You haven't in your mind

1944
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 6: you have an answer to that question. But right now

1945
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 6: you're dealing with the guy that has excellent length. He

1946
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 6: can run, he's got stride length, he's got vertical ability.

1947
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 6: That's his profile. As I said, can he be more

1948
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 6: than that? He was predominantly a static receiver in the

1949
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 6: Oregon offense. So the question is is he a boundary X?

1950
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 6: Can he can he win against press coverage at one

1951
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 6: hundred and what seventy six hundred eighty pounds? Does he

1952
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 6: have to be a movement Z so you can get

1953
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 6: him free access off the ball to generate some speed,

1954
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 6: get him into that stride length because right now, as

1955
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 6: I said, he's he's a little bit right now of

1956
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 6: a one trick pony. So you have to decide can

1957
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 6: he be more than that?

1958
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,600
Speaker 3: And let's finish off with tes Walker, who's six '

1959
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 3: one three ran a four to three six. He's a

1960
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 3: true separator and on touchdowns he had a career average

1961
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 3: of thirty point seven yards when he separated with with touchdowns,

1962
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 3: which is pretty that's that's pretty big. What do you

1963
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 3: like about him?

1964
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think ultimately with him, he's another guy that,

1965
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 6: at this moment in time, is a vertical guy. His

1966
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 6: game's built on speed and explosiveness. There's no question he's

1967
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 6: a vertical dimension. He can run by, he can get

1968
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 6: on top of corners, he can take the top off

1969
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,440
Speaker 6: the defense. He plays fast right off the line of scrimmage.

1970
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 6: He can accelerate the high end speed almost instantly, and

1971
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 6: of course that challenges and puts tremendous pressure on corners.

1972
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 6: He's smooth, he's fluid. There's a gliding feel to him,

1973
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 6: but yet he is sudden because he can run. He's

1974
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 6: not really an accomplished receiver at this point. And that again,

1975
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 6: in some ways, he's like Franklin, even though he weighs

1976
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 6: twenty pounds more. They're very similar at this moment. They're

1977
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 6: both speed guys. Well, you know, again you have to

1978
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 6: decide can he become more than that? But he does

1979
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 6: weigh more than one ninety He's not a little guy,

1980
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 6: so you know, he to me would probably be a

1981
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 6: little more interesting than Franklin, But again, you'd have to

1982
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 6: know players. I don't know the kids, but he's kind

1983
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 6: of they're kind of similar right now.

1984
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, who would you say stands a better chance of

1985
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 2: having a higher ceiling between those two because you're you're

1986
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 2: kind of describing them as relatively one dimensional. Now, but

1987
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 2: down the line, who do you think has a higher

1988
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 2: ceiling to reach here and offers greater potential?

1989
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 6: Well, I would probably say Walker, but I'm not saying

1990
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 6: that Brownie with you know, a really strong conviction, like, yeah,

1991
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 6: it's Walker for sure, But i'd probably say that since

1992
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:39,480
Speaker 6: you asked me the question.

1993
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I I mean that, And that's the rub

1994
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what makes the draft so interesting because

1995
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: you have some people that are going to Walker.

1996
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all projection. I mean, that's the thing. It's

1997
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 6: all prospect projection. Nobody's a finished product. As you get

1998
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,799
Speaker 6: further down in the draft now we're starting two tonight,

1999
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 6: you're getting guys that, obviously, for the most part, are

2000
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 6: not on people's draft boards as first round picks. So

2001
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 6: now you're starting to get into players that have some

2002
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 6: flaws or weaknesses, whatever you want to call them, and

2003
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 6: you have to figure out can those be fixed? Can

2004
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 6: those be improved upon? Is that just the way the

2005
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 6: guy is? And you work around it? I mean that's

2006
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 6: what you start to get to as you get further

2007
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 6: into the draft. You know that guys. I mean that's

2008
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 6: you know everybody thinks when you draft guys that, oh man,

2009
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 6: now we got it. Well, none of these guys are

2010
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 6: finished products, and certainly not as you get further down in.

2011
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 3: The draft, Greg, what surprised you most about Night one

2012
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 3: of the draft?

2013
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 6: I mean the same thing that surprised everybody, Maddie, I

2014
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 6: mean Michael Pennick, So you know that really was. I mean,

2015
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna sit here and say they're right or wrong,

2016
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 6: but the reason it was strange. I like Michael Pennix.

2017
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 6: And again, I don't get caught up with the idea,

2018
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 6: well they could have gotten them later, or he's not

2019
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 6: worth the eighth pick. I don't do that stuff. The

2020
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 6: bigger question is Kirk Cousins just signed a four year,

2021
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty million dollars deal. And I did

2022
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 6: speak to someone last night because I don't follow the

2023
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 6: cap stuff really closely, that they can't do anything with

2024
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins for at least two years. So you're drafting

2025
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 6: a twenty four year old quarterback who I really like.

2026
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 6: By the way, and I think he fits that offense

2027
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 6: exceptionally well because it's going to essentially be the Rams offense,

2028
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 6: and I think he fits that really well. But you

2029
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 6: can't get rid of cousins even after this year. So

2030
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,679
Speaker 6: if you just I mean not if you have decided

2031
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 6: Pennix as your guy. They didn't do that on a whim.

2032
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 6: They knew they were taking Michael Pennix two weeks ago.

2033
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 6: So when you take Michael Pennix, I would think you

2034
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 6: believe by year three for sure he's going to be

2035
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 6: your starter. So you know that. So, like I said,

2036
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 6: I mean, everybody has these same questions, but it was

2037
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 6: that was the pick I think that was most surprising.

2038
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 6: But the other thing was the first fourteen picks were

2039
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 6: offensive players.

2040
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2041
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and twenty three total in round.

2042
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 6: One, which is the most ever, I believe, Yes it is.

2043
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 2: It crushed the record of nineteen, which had been done

2044
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: three previous times, last in two thousand and nine. But

2045
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 2: interesting to see if it kind of evens out now

2046
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 2: here in round two because the receiver class is still

2047
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 2: very deep, as you know. But I think some of

2048
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 2: these other defensive positions will come into greater focus here.

2049
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 6: And Brownie here's the other question. Six quarterbacks were taken

2050
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 6: in the top twelve. History tells us that not all

2051
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 6: six are going to be all pros, right, that's not

2052
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 6: the way it works.

2053
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, just look at the eighty three class.

2054
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 6: It's you know, it's almost impossible to know which ones

2055
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 6: won't be. But you know all six are not going

2056
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 6: to be superstars. We know that from history.

2057
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. All right, Greg, listen, thanks

2058
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 2: for the time. We'll catch up with you for our

2059
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 2: live stream I believe tonight. Right, we'll catch up with

2060
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 2: you this evening after what we hope is Pick thirty three.

2061
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 2: We hope it's a little earlier evening than last night.

2062
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm hoping because Pick thirty three it will be

2063
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 6: early in the evening because I might need to get

2064
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 6: to bed a little early tonight, brownie, you know. So

2065
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 6: let's hope it's Picked thirty three.

2066
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 2: Fair enough. Thanks for joining us, Greg, appreciated.

2067
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 6: We'll catch up with you later, all right, guys, thanks

2068
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 6: so much.

2069
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 2: All right, that's Greg co Sale, senior producer from NFL Films,

2070
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 2: joining us and breaking down the best of the receivers

2071
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 2: left on the board. We didn't mention Lad McConkie in

2072
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 2: that list, he would certainly qualify. But we've talked to

2073
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 2: Greg and so many other people about Ladd and we

2074
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 2: kind of feel like he's relatively well known for Bills fans.

2075
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Lord knows, we get enough calls about him,

2076
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: so he is an option as well. I think the

2077
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 2: only difference between him and a lot of these other

2078
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,759
Speaker 2: guys we had Greg talk about was the size component.

2079
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 2: He's under six foot, he's got short arms, and I

2080
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 2: would say, in terms of ceiling, is maybe the most limited.

2081
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 2: I think he kind of is what he is, which,

2082
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 2: don't get get me wrong, can be very successful in

2083
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 2: the NFL, but there's not another level really for him

2084
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 2: to reach. He kind of is what he is, which

2085
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 2: again can be productive in this league. But knowing there

2086
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 2: are some of these other players with another rung or

2087
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 2: two to reach, sometimes they will go ahead of a

2088
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: player like McConkie, who I think most would agree has

2089
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: a higher floor.

2090
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that for Ladd is

2091
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 3: because of the IQ that he already has. Not saying

2092
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 3: that he's smarter than everyone available, but you watch the

2093
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 3: tape on Ladd mcconkee, and he just has a great

2094
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 3: feel for the game. He has a great feel for

2095
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:42,440
Speaker 3: space and open zones on offense and can find those creases.

2096
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 3: He operates already like an NFL player, So that's why

2097
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 3: a lot of people believe it's going to translate into

2098
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 3: the next level. I believe whatever team that gets Lad

2099
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 3: McConkie is going to have a productive wide receiver. He

2100
01:53:56,760 --> 01:54:00,759
Speaker 3: was mocked to the Bills five times. A couple times

2101
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 3: in the middle of when we were tracking March, and

2102
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 3: then a few times in April as well.

2103
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 2: We got to get back to the phone calls at

2104
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 2: eight O threeh five point fifty on this obl fan

2105
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 2: Friday mail bag and waiting patiently, there is Elliott in Rochester.

2106
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 2: What do you offers Elliott?

2107
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my calls. So first, I'm

2108
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 21: here to take a victory lap with the rest of

2109
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,839
Speaker 21: you who are calling out the trade back earlier this week.

2110
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 21: I'm not mad about it at all. I'm here to

2111
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 21: shut down any complaint about the trading back. The Bills

2112
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 21: missed out on nothing. That's just a fact. Deep down.

2113
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 21: Every fan that follows the prospects in the draft process

2114
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 21: knows that, or at least should know that the Bills

2115
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 21: were never taking Xavier Worthy, they were never taking Ricky pearsall,

2116
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 21: and they were never taking Xavier Lagett. And anyone who

2117
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 21: thinks otherwise, I don't think they've been paying attention. The

2118
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 21: Bills now have a third round pickback. They have two

2119
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 21: second round picks, totaling three picks tonight. Let me just

2120
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 21: ask you, Brownie, I think you might know and Maddie

2121
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 21: yourself too, ever heard of these guys Pook and a

2122
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 21: coup tank Dell fifth round picks. I'm on Ross Saint Brown,

2123
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 21: highest paid receiver in the league, fourth rounder, Nico Collins, third,

2124
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 21: Jayden Reid and received rice last year in the second round.

2125
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 21: So anyone panicking or stomping on the receiver tonight at

2126
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 21: pick thirty three needs to just pump the brakes. The

2127
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 21: Bills needs a supporting receiver, not a wide receiver one

2128
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 21: that's not how the offense operates. We have to see

2129
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 21: how business is done with Joe Brady. But the recency

2130
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 21: bias with the Digs departure is crazy. Everyone's getting super

2131
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 21: rabid about, you know, replacing the receiver rather than being

2132
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 21: patient and trusting being in the process. These guys know

2133
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 21: a lot more than myself and both of you and

2134
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 21: all the callers, So everyone just sit back and enjoy

2135
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 21: the show. I'm also here to definitively tell fans that

2136
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,839
Speaker 21: the Bills will not be acquiring Deebo Samuel or Brendan Ayyuk.

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Speaker 21: As exciting as it is to talk about, it's not happening.

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01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 21: The salary cap is. It's just in too big of

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01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 21: a pinch right now. But some names everyone needs to

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01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 21: get familiar with before tonight at pick thirty three, especially

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01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 21: Jison new In, Cooper Degen, maybe even kool Aid McKinstry.

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Speaker 21: You know, if it is receiver Ady Mitchell, some of

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Speaker 21: the character concerns are are there. But like you said,

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Speaker 21: Brownie Jalen Polk played big in those big games versus

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Speaker 21: Oregon Adi. Mitchell's guy. He played out of his mind.

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 21: He played super big in every college football playoff game

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Speaker 21: that he ever played in. He has that clutch factor.

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Speaker 21: But you need the right guy for the locker room.

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Speaker 21: So like you said, I'm not in a hurry for

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Speaker 21: any of those guys. Maybe even at Diza Isaac. There's

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Speaker 21: some great players. If we're looking at Deebo Samuel for

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01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 21: the offense, why not a guy like Malachai Corley out

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01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 21: of Western Kentucky, which you could probably get at the

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01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 21: end of the second if not in the third round.

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01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 21: Jermaine Burton. Again, you just need a guy to play

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01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 21: play a role, So give me defense at thirty three tonight.

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Speaker 21: Give me the best player they got on the board.

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Speaker 21: That is not for me to decide, but I'll sit

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Speaker 21: back and enjoy whoever they pick at thirty three. Thank

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Speaker 21: you both for all that you do. Looking forward to tonight.

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Speaker 21: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Elliott, nice call. That was one of the more

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01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 2: rational calls we've had, not to say that everybody else

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01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 2: has been irrational, but well thought out and like we

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Speaker 2: were saying earlier, let's let the draft finish. Let's get

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Speaker 2: done and to the end on Saturday, and then we

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Speaker 2: can make our assessments.

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Speaker 3: It's a good point too. We don't know what the

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01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 3: offense is going to look like yet. There's a new

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator in this building in Joe Brady. We got

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01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 3: a taste last season, but we haven't seen his offense yet.

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01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 3: Maybe that isn't having a solidified wide receiver one plopped

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01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 3: in the middle of it, and that's the only reason

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01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 3: the Bills can succeed. Maybe the offense doesn't look like that.

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01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 3: Maybe it looks like, let's spread the ball out to

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01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 3: the playmakers we have and really focus on the mismatches

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01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 3: that we can get depending on what team that we're playing,

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01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 3: depending on what defense we're going to face. Look at

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01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 3: what the Bills did at the end of last season.

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01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 3: It was about throwing the ball to do different people,

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01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 3: getting James Cook involved, seeing what our tight ends could do.

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01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 3: What is dolt can kid do next season? How big

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01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 3: is his role going to be? Can James Cook take

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Speaker 3: another step forward? We've got some playmakers on this team already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I think it's going to be

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01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 2: interesting to see, you know, with Joe Brady getting the

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01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 2: chance now as the full time offensive coordinator put a

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01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 2: stamp on this offense. Are we headed towards a much

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01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 2: more democratic ball distribution offense. In the passing game, and

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01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is the vast majority of

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01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 2: the targets each of the last four years have gone

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Speaker 2: to Stefan Diggs. And we understand why he's a playmaker.

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01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 2: He's been productive and I get it, But do they

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01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 2: deem this passing game more dangerous if the opposing defense

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01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 2: doesn't know who's getting the ball because of the even distribution.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see there is a more democratic distribution

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Speaker 2: of targets now going forward, And obviously some of that

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01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 2: will be predicated on who they acquire here in the draft,

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Speaker 2: but I'm kind of getting the sense that we might

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01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 2: be trending more towards that than seeing game books after

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Speaker 2: the game where it's twelve targets for Diggs, five for Kincaid,

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Speaker 2: three for Davis, and two for Shakir. I think it

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01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 2: might be more balanced instead of so lopsided going forward.

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Speaker 3: And that's okay. Think about step On Diggs when he

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01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 3: was put in this offense his first few seasons. He

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 3: was paired with a quarterback in Josh Allen who was

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Speaker 3: a young quarterback who had a wide receiver next to him,

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01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 3: and Stefan Diggs, who really helped him along in his

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Speaker 3: first few seasons of his NFL career. Those two helped

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01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 3: each other out immensely. Now Josh Allen is not a

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01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 3: young quarterback. Maybe he needs a wide receiver who's a

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01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 3: younger guy who he can help out.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, break time for us here, but mo phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we return, So if you're holding an eight

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Speaker 2: h three oh five fifty. We'll get to you when

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Speaker 2: we get back here on One Bills Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: final half hour the show Here on One Bill's Live.

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02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Maddy Glad with you as we get set

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Speaker 2: for Night two of the NFL Draft. Bills with three

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02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 2: picks in tow at thirty three, sixty and at ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Could there be more on the horizon? You shall wait

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Speaker 2: and see. In the meantime, we get back to the

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Speaker 2: phones and we go to Steve in Fairport next. What's

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Speaker 2: up Steve?

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Speaker 22: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call here. I'm I

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Speaker 22: want to preface a couple of things before I get

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Speaker 22: to what I have to say. The first thing is,

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Speaker 22: I'm not smarter than Brandon Bean. I'm just a fan

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02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 22: and I approach every draft as let's wait and see,

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02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 22: and I think every team and every fan is that way.

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02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:06,160
Speaker 22: I mean, even the Bears don't have a guarantee that

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02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 22: they've got the next great thing at quarterback. The second

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Speaker 22: thing is, Chris, I kind of agree with you and

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Speaker 22: thought before the draft, before yesterday that worthy is a

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Speaker 22: little too delicate, maybe for a first round pick, and

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02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 22: I didn't see him as the answer. But the point

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Speaker 22: I want to make is this trading with Kansas City,

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Speaker 22: with the history that we have. My prediction is that

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Speaker 22: the Bills will have a really good season, win the

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Speaker 22: AFC East, maybe even sweep the Dolphins, which is one

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02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 22: of my success markers, make it to the playoffs, and

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02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:51,280
Speaker 22: in very Bill fashion, will end up this worthy guy

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02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 22: will end up having the game of his life for

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02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 22: three touchdowns, catch one hundred and eighty yards worth of passes,

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02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 22: and the Bills will lose to the Chiefs. Again, I

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02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 22: hate to be a negative Nancy, but I just that

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02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 22: is the nagging feeling, the gut punch that I felt

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Speaker 22: as soon as soon as I heard this trade.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, just a guy in his thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I understand the scar tissue, and it's the scar tissue

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02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:20,080
Speaker 2: that I believe makes you feel that way because you

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02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 2: just said yourself, you kind of believe what I do

2254
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 2: that he's a little too wispy. He's one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty five pounds. I swear his waist is twenty six inches.

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Speaker 2: He is a waif of a man. This is a

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02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 2: game for bigger stronger humans. There are exceptions, but a

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02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:49,839
Speaker 2: smart GM once told me, you can have one exception

2259
02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 2: on your team, but you better not have too many.

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Speaker 2: They have Marque's Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy now in

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Speaker 2: their receiving corps. Both are tiny men. Worthy not so

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02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 2: much in terms of height, but just in terms of

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02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 2: girth and meat on his bones. Hollywood Brown is not

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Speaker 2: big either, and he's short. Both of them are lightning fast,

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02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:16,800
Speaker 2: which is why they're even in the NFL. But if

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Speaker 2: you felt that Worthy was not the answer for the

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Speaker 2: Bills and what they needed to immediately change that into

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Speaker 2: he's going to send us out of the playoffs next

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Speaker 2: year just because of the team that he plays for.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that computes for me. I think

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Speaker 2: you're portraying and projecting your scar tissue from losing to

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs onto the pick that they made. You ought

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Speaker 2: to You didn't think that pick in any way, shape

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02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 2: or form would work out for the Bills, but you

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02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 2: think it's going to catapult the Chiefs back to the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl and eliminate the Bills from playoff contention. That's

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Speaker 2: the disparity in what you think of the player based

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02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 2: on where he lands and look, I'll be the first

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Speaker 2: to tell you that the situation you land in for

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Speaker 2: a lot of these draft prospects does matter in terms

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02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 2: of the career that they have. I mean, we can

2282
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 2: run through the list of Jets quarterbacks that have failed

2283
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 2: miserably because they don't have player development there on any

2284
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 2: level and haven't for the last forty years. So it

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02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 2: does matter. But that's a wide range that you've got there,

2286
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 2: not the answer for the Bills to gonna help the

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02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs get back to this forever. So to me, it

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02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 2: doesn't compute. I get the scar tissue, I get the frustration.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think much of them as a player

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Speaker 2: in my opinion. Doesn't change because he's on the cheeks.

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Speaker 3: Don't go there yet. Don't let yourself go there yet.

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02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 3: You're better than that. Come on, Bill's Mafia, we can

2293
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,760
Speaker 3: do this. Don't go there. Think about the defensive players

2294
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 3: on this team. Taylor rap knocks guys into the next

2295
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 3: week with his hits. Mike Edwards picks passes off and

2296
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 3: runs them in for touchdowns. Benford, Rasul Douglas, kyer elam Our.

2297
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 3: Cornerbacks you don't want to mess with.

2298
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 2: Kept Tyreek Hill under wraps last year. Let's not forget

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02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:08,880
Speaker 2: that in.

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Speaker 3: Two games Kyrie elers press coverage, great cornerback when it

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02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 3: comes to press coverage, getting guys off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: Defensive line, they can do their job too. Tarren Johnson

2303
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 3: the best nickel cornerback in the NFL, one of the best.

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Speaker 3: And think about those linebackers that we have, Matt Mulano,

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02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard. This is a good defense and they can

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Speaker 3: scheme to go up against guys like Xavier Worthy. I

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02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 3: know speed is scary, and speed can can break games.

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Speaker 3: But that's why you have defensive coinators like Bobby Babbage

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Speaker 3: and Sean McDermott. And that's why these guys have held

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Speaker 3: this job for so long is because they don't let

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Speaker 3: things like speed break a game. Open.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phone lines and go to

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Speaker 2: Gary and Forrednia next. What's up, Gary.

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Speaker 23: I just still feel that McConkey is the closest thing

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Speaker 23: to Diggs in the draft. I mean, and you know,

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Speaker 23: coming out of college, you know they said, oh, Diggs

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02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 23: can't play the outside, He's gonna be a slot receiver,

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Speaker 23: blah blah blah. And I just think we've done we

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02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 23: did so well with Diggs getting McConkey. He could play

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Speaker 23: from day one. I mean, he's his footwork is incredible,

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Speaker 23: and I just think he would definitely be the best

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Speaker 23: one plus. But I worry about if you don't go

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Speaker 23: receiver with this first pick. There's about three or four

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Speaker 23: other teams that are going to be picking receivers right

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Speaker 23: after the Bills, and we're gonna have crumbs left if

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Speaker 23: they don't go receiver first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do worry about the run with you, Gary,

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Speaker 2: There's no question about it. I think there is going

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Speaker 2: to be a run here in the top ten picks

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Speaker 2: at receiver. It technically started last night if you think

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02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:02,920
Speaker 2: about it, because Ricky Piersoll thirty one, Xavier Leget thirty two.

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Speaker 2: You could argue that the run has already started and

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Speaker 2: the Bills have fortunately put themselves right at the front

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Speaker 2: of the line to continue that run. So you would

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02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 2: hope that they just stay there and get their best

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Speaker 2: receiver on the board, provided the value is right. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't I've said this many times. I would not be

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02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:24,080
Speaker 2: disappointed if they draft Lad McConkie. I think he has

2339
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 2: the highest floor of almost any receiver in the draft.

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02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,839
Speaker 2: But he does have one of the more limited ceilings.

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02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 2: I think he already is what he is. There is

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Speaker 2: limited growth I think to his game going forward. Now,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he can't be a successful NFL player,

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Speaker 2: and he is an ideal match for Bills DNA. I

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Speaker 2: know I've mentioned this before. I've watched a lot of

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02:07:48,720 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 2: Georgia football the last two years. I got a son

2347
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:53,600
Speaker 2: that goes to school there. I've watched more Georgia football

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02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 2: than any other team after the Bills. He is consistent,

2349
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 2: he is reliable, he is diversified with his game, and

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02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 2: he is an off the charts character kit. So he

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02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 2: would be a great pick for the Bills. I just

2352
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 2: don't know if they believe he diversifies their passing game enough.

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02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 2: And we heard Brandon Bean say this, I'm not going

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02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 2: to remember exactly when, but earlier this offseason he said,

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02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 2: we're looking to have as many different kinds of weapons

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02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:34,919
Speaker 2: to win matchups as possible. And I think McConkie mimics

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02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 2: a lot of what Khalil Shakir does for this offense,

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02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 2: and so because of that, I don't know that he

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02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:43,960
Speaker 2: checks all the boxes they're looking to check with their

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02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 2: first receiver pick.

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Speaker 3: I agree Khalil Shakir and Lad McConkie do similar things. Yes,

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02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:52,120
Speaker 3: they are different in some ways. But do you want

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02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 3: a guy like that on your roster or would you

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02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,880
Speaker 3: rather get somebody who has more speed to them, who

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02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 3: has some more length, who has the yak ability, who

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02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 3: has the ability to separate and stretch the field. Would

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02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:09,800
Speaker 3: that look better in a Joe Brady offense. We'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens tonight. We'll see if they pick a wide

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02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 3: receiver with that thirty third overall pick, or maybe go

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Speaker 3: two in Night two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see to Tom in Lackawana next. What's up Tom.

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02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 15: First of all, I think they definitely have to draft

2374
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 15: and not try to trade. Wide receiver has become in

2375
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 15: the last two years. What quarterbacks became three or four

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02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 15: years ago. You have to draft them because they've become

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02:09:39,560 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 15: too expensive. You might get one one contract after that,

2378
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:46,080
Speaker 15: you know, but you're never going to get two contracts.

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02:09:47,720 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 15: Being did really well with bringing in digs and we

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02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:53,600
Speaker 15: got four great years out of them. The only problem

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02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:58,000
Speaker 15: is wide receivers are also kind of diva like, and

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02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:02,640
Speaker 15: again going to the second contract, now we're stuck with

2383
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 15: a thirty one million dollar cap hit. So I think

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02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 15: you got to draft them. They know better than us

2385
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 15: who to draft. You know, everything I seen is I

2386
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:14,640
Speaker 15: like Mitchell, but now there's all this stuff that people

2387
02:10:14,680 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 15: are saying not good about him. So you know, hopefully

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02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 15: I also like Devon Baker if they decide to go

2389
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 15: defense first and maybe also package some picks and not

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02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 15: have to go maybe even move sixty up with a

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02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 15: couple of picks and get in them around I don't know,

2392
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 15: the late forties and take a defensive person and somebody

2393
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 15: like Baker or Polk with the second you know, with

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02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 15: the next pick that they'd pick up.

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02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, and that's the thing that Brandon Bean

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02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:53,000
Speaker 2: has given himself, right, uh, draft flexibility. I mean with

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02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:58,880
Speaker 2: four or fives and a four, you afforded yourself some

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02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 2: flexibility here on night two where if you're sitting there

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02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 2: at the bottom around three at ninety five and you

2400
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 2: want to get up, you now have the ammunition to

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02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:12,440
Speaker 2: do so. If someone's sliding on your board and you know,

2402
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 2: based on what's on your board, you got a high

2403
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:17,240
Speaker 2: three and he's still sitting there more than halfway through

2404
02:11:17,320 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 2: round three, now you can take your pick at ninety five,

2405
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 2: use some of your Day three capital and get up

2406
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:28,800
Speaker 2: to get somebody. He's done that before. I remember when

2407
02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 2: he wanted to get a tight end for this roster.

2408
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 2: He had a fourth round pick, but he had some ammunition.

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02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:36,520
Speaker 2: He traded all the way up into the bottom of

2410
02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:39,280
Speaker 2: around three and he got Dawson Knox. He was like

2411
02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 2: the last tight end on their board on day two

2412
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:45,880
Speaker 2: and he didn't he didn't have any more picks, but

2413
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:47,560
Speaker 2: he's like, oh my gosh, let's go get that guy.

2414
02:11:47,560 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 2: He's sliding. And he gave up his four and another

2415
02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 2: pick to get up to the bottom round three to

2416
02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:57,280
Speaker 2: take Dawson. So there could be a move like that tonight,

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02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 2: we'll see.

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02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 3: NFL Network Cynthia Free said, it's rounds three and four

2419
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 3: where you can really find players who fit your scheme

2420
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 3: that can be game changers for your roster over time.

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02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 3: That's what historically has happened for a lot of teams.

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02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:18,600
Speaker 2: And the reason why that is is because when you

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02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:21,320
Speaker 2: get to round three and four, the reason those players

2424
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:24,800
Speaker 2: are still there is because they're not scheme versatile. They

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02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:29,520
Speaker 2: may only fit this kind of scheme, or an offensive

2426
02:12:29,560 --> 02:12:32,520
Speaker 2: lineman may only fit a zone blocking scheme. Well, if

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02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 2: you do that and he's still one of the best,

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02:12:34,920 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 2: take the guy, and if you can get him in

2429
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,400
Speaker 2: the third round, it looks like uncommon value for you,

2430
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 2: even though this team over here that plays a gap

2431
02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:44,240
Speaker 2: scheme wouldn't touch him. It's just one example. Got to

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Speaker 2: take a break. We'll try to hit some of your

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02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:47,880
Speaker 2: questions on the tweet sheet when we come back on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Stay with us all right here we

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Speaker 2: are One Bill's Live on a Friday night two of

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. I hope you enjoyed us previewing it

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Speaker 2: for you. A couple of questions in the Friday mailbag.

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Speaker 2: Steve asks, does anyone else have a feeling Bean is

2439
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 2: going to trade back once more and walk out it

2440
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 2: today with four guys. I think it could happen.

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02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:09,480
Speaker 3: It could happen.

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02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 2: I think if he moves back from thirty three, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a small one though, Like if it's

2444
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 2: more than four picks, that would be surprised. So that

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02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,880
Speaker 2: would put teams like, let's see here, that would be

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02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 2: where did I have this here?

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Speaker 6: It is?

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Speaker 2: So you got New England at thirty four, Arizona at

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02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:31,880
Speaker 2: thirty five, Washington at thirty six, maybe Washington at thirty six.

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02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,920
Speaker 2: You know, you move back three spots and you can

2451
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:37,520
Speaker 2: still get a player you like. I think that could happen.

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02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a.

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Speaker 3: Big move though, And if they do that, it's because

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02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:44,120
Speaker 3: they have multiple players who would be available, or they

2455
02:13:44,120 --> 02:13:46,280
Speaker 3: believe the guy they're going to pick is still going

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02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:47,760
Speaker 3: to be around in a few picks.

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02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Samantha asks, what are

2458
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:54,280
Speaker 2: the chances that the Bills use some of these picks

2459
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:57,400
Speaker 2: to trade for a player, maybe Higgins, Auk or Samuels.

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02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 2: We know Ayuk and Samuels are out there and being offered.

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02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 2: The problem is the money. The problem is the money,

2462
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,400
Speaker 2: and the Bills with their tight cap situation, would be difficult,

2463
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:09,280
Speaker 2: not impossible, but it would be challenging.

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02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,320
Speaker 3: You gotta think about all those things when you're making

2465
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:12,080
Speaker 3: those decisions.

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Speaker 2: Should be interesting. Stay tuned tonight, Maddie and I'll be

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Speaker 2: on the live stream right after the Bills pick at

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Speaker 2: thirty three and sixty. We'll see you then,