Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. Hope everybody's doing great today.
Speaker 1: Just got home from a big trip and Lauren and
Speaker 1: I said, let's sit down and record a podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, you literally just got home. Youveen gone so long
Speaker 2: for days and days. I haven't slept, I haven't eaten.
Speaker 2: I was alone so much. I was alone.
Speaker 1: If you guys follow LZ on social media, and I
Speaker 1: hope you do, because I do. And that's how I
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on in the world and what
Speaker 1: I'm going to walk into. When I see there is
Speaker 1: a stream of stories and there's like twenty stories. I
Speaker 1: know she hasn't slept in days. I know she probably
Speaker 1: hasn't eaten, and she hasn't left the house. And it's
Speaker 1: I'm walking into a dark situation.
Speaker 2: I can't own this. I can't just find my behavior.
Speaker 2: I should be a more functioning adult, and you know,
Speaker 2: there should be more functional I really should. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's weird. On the one hand, I consider myself a strong,
Speaker 2: independent person, and then on the other hand, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm a fairal child, don't I can't. When you were gone,
Speaker 2: I don't really eat. I'm not joking. I think I
Speaker 2: just drank coffee yesterday and I had a piece of
Speaker 2: cheese at one point. And I'm not trying not to eat.
Speaker 2: I just don't know how to make food. And when
Speaker 2: I say that I was gone, I was alone for
Speaker 2: so long. I was alone for one day because.
Speaker 1: Two nights, two nights, you ended up at babe.
Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that it was too you.
Speaker 1: You were strong.
Speaker 2: Thank you for defending me against myself. My mom and
Speaker 2: sister came into town. Here's the thing, I never mind
Speaker 2: you going on a trip. I'm always like, go on
Speaker 2: a trip to your thing.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you're very supportive.
Speaker 2: Well, we're both like that, but when you are. Part
Speaker 2: of the reason I don't mind is because I'm the
Speaker 2: type of person like when you go somewhere, I fill
Speaker 2: my time. I have a friend come into town, or
Speaker 2: my mother or my sister coming to town, or I
Speaker 2: make a bunch of plans with friends. But there was
Speaker 2: this one day when I got really caught up in
Speaker 2: wedding stuff. And I am not exaggerating. I don't know
Speaker 2: if anybody has a day like this, I'm calling it
Speaker 2: a lost day. I don't know what happened to my brain,
Speaker 2: to my time management ability. I ended up sitting at
Speaker 2: our kitchen counter on my laptop working on wedding stuff
Speaker 2: for ten hours. My back hurt at the end of it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't my eyes were twitching because it's staring at
Speaker 2: a screen.
Speaker 1: What I found out, so I was on this trip
Speaker 1: and I had very little touch with the real world.
Speaker 2: Well, you had no Wi Fi and cell service remote area.
Speaker 1: Where I was. This particular camp we had it was
Speaker 1: summer camp. We had electricity from three in the afternoon
Speaker 1: until eight in the morning, and that was it. And
Speaker 1: then they would turn off the generator.
Speaker 2: Picture you were like, it was like Samuel L. Jackson
Speaker 2: in Jurassic Park was like switching pretty generator on.
Speaker 1: But I found out when I did get there's one
Speaker 1: place at this compound where you could get Wi Fi
Speaker 1: for a few hours a night. And I saw that
Speaker 1: you went wedding dress shopping. Yes, I did, and you
Speaker 1: picked a dress.
Speaker 2: Yes, And then you were kind of upset with me.
Speaker 1: Not upset, I was jealous, is what I said. I
Speaker 1: saw you in all these dresses because I haven't seen
Speaker 1: these pictures. The first time I saw all these pictures
Speaker 1: of you trying on dresses was with the rest of
Speaker 1: the world. You were posting them on Instagram, and I said,
Speaker 1: I got a little jealous that you were sharing this
Speaker 1: with all of us at the same time. I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: but I was excited to learn on Instagram. And this
Speaker 1: is how I found out. She didn't tell me, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I have the dress.
Speaker 2: I would have told you. I didn't even know you
Speaker 2: were on your phone at all. I thought you would
Speaker 2: know service I.
Speaker 1: Got this message via Instagram. I found the dress. So
Speaker 1: I text you and I said, oh, congratulations, I hear
Speaker 1: you found our wedding dress.
Speaker 2: You know it's strange. I actually felt I really never
Speaker 2: would have intended to even show you those photos. And
Speaker 2: I only posted pictures on Instagram of wedding dresses that
Speaker 2: did not work out and that are very far from
Speaker 2: the actual dress I ended up choosing because, of course,
Speaker 2: I want to have this moment where you're away the
Speaker 2: dress is white.
Speaker 1: There was a moment when you were debating a black
Speaker 1: wedding dress.
Speaker 2: Apparently, well, I mean I considered it. I I don't
Speaker 2: feel the like if you want to. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's hard to not feel a funeral energy from it.
Speaker 2: And you know, someone pointed out to me that how
Speaker 2: often do we wear a little black dress to dinner
Speaker 2: or to a party or whatever, So why not wear
Speaker 2: a white dress? And it's a little bit more different
Speaker 2: for the big day.
Speaker 1: But the dress has been chosen.
Speaker 2: Yes, And okay, I never really intended to show you
Speaker 2: those photos of me. I mean, I know that I
Speaker 2: put them on Instagram, but I don't know in my mind,
Speaker 2: all the people who I interact with on Instagram are
Speaker 2: like my friends, and I was sort of almost sharing
Speaker 2: them with my girlfriends almost and being like, look, how
Speaker 2: how bad these dresses looked on me. I don't even
Speaker 2: think I would not have taken my phone and showed
Speaker 2: you the photos.
Speaker 1: But but now you see how that logic is flawed, right.
Speaker 2: Because I put it on Instagram for all the world
Speaker 2: to see. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of breakups.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, can I have a serious question. Do
Speaker 2: you think that I mean, I feel bad. Did that
Speaker 2: ruin it for you in anyway?
Speaker 1: Our wedding? Well, at the moment, the dress, no, because Obviously,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the dress looks like, and you're
Speaker 1: not going to post that I don't think, and so
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the dress.
Speaker 2: Part of me wants to test. I mean, don't you
Speaker 2: love when women test people? This is so toxic for relationship.
Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to ask you what
Speaker 2: type of dress you think I'm I would.
Speaker 1: You would like to set me up for failures? What
Speaker 1: you would like to know? What you'd like is to
Speaker 1: set me up to call on a in a pit
Speaker 1: of vipers.
Speaker 2: I want to see how well you know me. But
Speaker 2: what I'm worried. I actually think you know me really well,
Speaker 2: and I'm worried that you're gonna come close to it
Speaker 2: and then my face won't be able to like hide
Speaker 2: the reactioners.
Speaker 1: But if I fail miserably and it's nothing like.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I will You and I kind of
Speaker 2: have different tastes. I don't know if most couples are
Speaker 2: like this. You actually, if you go pick something out
Speaker 2: for me, you don't pick out something bad, but you
Speaker 2: don't really pick out like you just have different tastes
Speaker 2: than I do.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: You kind of like a flowy sort of Texas cowgirl
Speaker 2: type of dress, and I'm more like structured fitted Audrey
Speaker 2: Hepburn breakfast at Tiffany's Energy. So you have.
Speaker 1: Different well, your old school, your classic Hollywood. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you for saying that you are. You are Hepburn, you are.
Speaker 2: The difference is and now I'm going to get mad
Speaker 2: at you. If I were picking out close for you,
Speaker 2: I would pick out something I know you would like.
Speaker 1: It would be golf clubs.
Speaker 2: No, I have that one time I bought you. I've
Speaker 2: bought you some sweaters before that, a little outside your
Speaker 2: comfort zone, and you do wear them. I think you
Speaker 2: look good at it.
Speaker 1: Try and honestly, here's the thing. For guys, for the
Speaker 1: most part, we're pretty easy. If you bias something and
Speaker 1: you say I love you in that, I think you
Speaker 1: look sexy in that, you look great in that, I'm
Speaker 1: going to wear it.
Speaker 2: Actually, you're right, I feel a little differently. Even if
Speaker 2: you told me, I think I'd wear it for you,
Speaker 2: but I still wouldn't feel great in set outfit I would.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's good.
Speaker 2: Now, really? Yeah, okay, here's another question. We haven't talked
Speaker 2: about this. Do you know what a first look is?
Speaker 2: Of course, the wedding, Okay, of course, yeah, should we
Speaker 2: do that or do you want to see me for
Speaker 2: the first time?
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to do that. It was you know,
Speaker 1: I just flashed back to Ari and Lauren's wedding. I
Speaker 1: officiated for them honorably.
Speaker 2: And by the way, we were dating in secret at
Speaker 2: the time. That's right, And so I couldn't come to
Speaker 2: the wedding with you because no one knew we were dating.
Speaker 1: There. Yeah, because there's a lot of Bachelor people, well
Speaker 1: some some of the Bachelor producers and uh, as you said,
Speaker 1: I officiated, and so I was with Ari and the
Speaker 1: guys beforehand, and he did a first look. We did
Speaker 1: a fake one first, or he did a fake one first.
Speaker 1: One of his buddies, one of his groomsmen, put on
Speaker 1: a wedding dress. Yes, I've seen it, so he turned
Speaker 1: around and then they did the real first look. And
Speaker 1: you know, and that's for your videos and pictures and
Speaker 1: all that. That's really cute. So I get it. I
Speaker 1: don't want that. I don't need that. I don't want
Speaker 1: that moment. I really want the moment when you step
Speaker 1: out and everybody enjoys it at the same time.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion, I think a lot of people do
Speaker 2: it to save time on photos. They do the first
Speaker 2: look so they can take pictures beforehand, and I totally
Speaker 2: understand that. And my little sister and her husband did
Speaker 2: a first look, and I was worried it would take
Speaker 2: the emotion away, but he was still bawling when she
Speaker 2: walked down the aisle. It was still all so emotional.
Speaker 2: But there is something I feel the same. It's hard
Speaker 2: for me, like I picture that moment. I actually told
Speaker 2: you that the only moment I really cared about for
Speaker 2: our wedding and why I felt like it had to
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a traditional wedding was walking
Speaker 2: down the aisle, and I I want to have that.
Speaker 2: I don't think I want to do a first look.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: We agree, we agree more time taking pictures.
Speaker 1: Buddy, you have the dress I do, and there will
Speaker 1: not be a first look. No, okay, good. I love
Speaker 1: that we were doing this with the world, so at
Speaker 1: least we're getting a ton we're getting it done, checking
Speaker 1: this off the list.
Speaker 2: I was really surprised I cried with the dress twice. Twice.
Speaker 2: I did not think I.
Speaker 1: Would, because here's the thing. In all fairness, I knew
Speaker 1: you liked a dress because you said, I went to
Speaker 1: a dress shop today by myself and I cried, just
Speaker 1: you and the shop attendant and you cried. And which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm guessing if you work at a
Speaker 1: wedding shop, I'm that probably happens a lot. There's emotions.
Speaker 1: I bet that's a very interesting job to be someone
Speaker 1: who's selling wedding dresses because you're getting.
Speaker 2: Me it's a very joyful well you think.
Speaker 1: And then I bet it's also stressful because totally moms
Speaker 1: are involved, mother in laws are involved.
Speaker 2: A lot of energy balance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet it is a lot.
Speaker 2: My mom metal my mom both had a lot to
Speaker 2: say and in the moments where she was silent that if.
Speaker 1: You're a therapist, that might be a great job for
Speaker 1: you selling wedding dresses, because I bet.
Speaker 2: You hear it all you're doing negotiations.
Speaker 1: You know what, if you sell wedding dresses, if you
Speaker 1: have some good stories, leave a message below.
Speaker 2: Do you have to have seen it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Drop into the most dramatic pod ever.
Speaker 2: Comment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, comment, I would really be interested in some of
Speaker 1: the craziest wedding dress shopping stories.
Speaker 2: I bet they are their most extreme. Well, I was
Speaker 2: surprised because and by the way, I mean I've said
Speaker 2: before I'm divorced. Even when I got married the first time,
Speaker 2: I am not that person whoever, Like, I just did
Speaker 2: not grow up picturing what my wedding would look like,
Speaker 2: what my dress would look like, which is kind of
Speaker 2: harder when planning it, because you don't have a box
Speaker 2: you're playing it, you don't have a vision you're trying
Speaker 2: to meet and all the white dresses start to look
Speaker 2: the same at some point. And so I especially us
Speaker 2: getting married again. I mean, I love you, and all
Speaker 2: I want to do is marry you, and I would
Speaker 2: marry you in our living room tomorrow. So this time around,
Speaker 2: I'm not even a first time bride, and in a
Speaker 2: very good way, I'm not that concerned with everything. So
Speaker 2: I was literally telling every attendant at every story I
Speaker 2: went to, like, I don't think I'm gonna cry, just
Speaker 2: so you know, like I'm not gonna have the moment.
Speaker 2: I'm like, and don't think there's anything wrong, but like,
Speaker 2: that's not me. I was very like Miranda in Sex
Speaker 2: and the City, like no, I just want to dress
Speaker 2: and then I put this dress on, and then she
Speaker 2: put the veil on me, and I freaking started crying.
Speaker 2: And I was there the first time I went. I
Speaker 2: even I was so casual about it, and I went alone.
Speaker 2: My mom and sister weren't even in town yet, and
Speaker 2: I just went by myself and I was crying alone
Speaker 2: with this very sweet one.
Speaker 1: Are you wearing a veil? I mean, TV, did you
Speaker 1: just drop that nugget?
Speaker 2: No, I'm just she put a veil on me. I
Speaker 2: just felt like the moment.
Speaker 1: That's another thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If I'm not going to tell you any more details.
Speaker 1: Well just tell everybody else.
Speaker 2: Going to put it on. You want to see it there,
Speaker 2: please follow me at Lauren Zima Chris Harrison, there is
Speaker 2: Remember when you followed me on Twitter? When we were dating,
Speaker 2: we realized we weren't following me on.
Speaker 1: It was a while. It was a long we were dating,
Speaker 1: a like, no, we had already said I love you,
Speaker 1: We've been dating for two years, and.
Speaker 2: Then I realized he wasn't following me on Twitter. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is so weird.
Speaker 1: Are you really dating? If you're not following someone on
Speaker 1: social media? It kind of shows you how relevant Twitter is.
Speaker 1: Speaking of this is, there's really no sing.
Speaker 2: Do you know what you're wearing on the wedding day?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll wear a tux.
Speaker 2: But do you know which one? Are you going to
Speaker 2: get a new one? You have a couple in your
Speaker 2: closet the job used to do.
Speaker 1: I do have a few tuxedos. I'll probably get a
Speaker 1: new one.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I thought you had this one tux you
Speaker 2: loved so much.
Speaker 1: I did. But this is a story that nobody cares about.
Speaker 1: There is a there is a tuxedo. And Carrie Fetman,
Speaker 1: who I love and adore, is one of our dear friends.
Speaker 1: He was the clothier on.
Speaker 2: The Batch, longtime stylist of the Bachelor franchise, and the nicest,
Speaker 2: funniest one.
Speaker 1: And only style. Actually it's not true. We've had two stylists,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. I don't remember her name. There
Speaker 1: was a stylist season one. It was just not and
Speaker 1: then it was a disaster and I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: was new to network TV, and so I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I just show up and someone gave me some really
Speaker 1: bad clothes. I look like looked like, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, something out of the eighties or nineties, very puffy, very.
Speaker 2: Well in these early days. It was just early two
Speaker 2: years and.
Speaker 1: I mentioned something about can I buy some different clothes
Speaker 1: or get and they said, you can do whatever. You're
Speaker 1: the host. You can like hire whoever you want. I
Speaker 1: didn't actually hire Carry. Somebody else brought him in. Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Turned out to be the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: And we have been dear friends ever since. He's dressed
Speaker 1: all the bacheorettes and everybody. Anyway, So we have a
Speaker 1: this amazing Dulcha Gabona tucks and so I told him
Speaker 1: he's the only one that knows this. I said, I
Speaker 1: want to be buried in this tuxedo.
Speaker 2: It's like, well buried, not married and married.
Speaker 1: But I loved it so much. I said, this is
Speaker 1: this is it, This is the suit I want to
Speaker 1: just rest in forever. And we lost it. Wait what
Speaker 1: we lost it?
Speaker 2: How do you lose a tuxedo?
Speaker 1: We lost half of it. We don't know where. We
Speaker 1: took it to the cleaners or something. We lost it
Speaker 1: and we called Dulce. We tried to recreate this. It
Speaker 1: cannot be done, Honey, I'm just learning this heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: Is this upsetting? You loved that?
Speaker 1: Oh? It almost broke carry An eye up. We've to
Speaker 1: this day. It's our When did this happen? I'm just
Speaker 1: learning about years ago. I wore this thing on all
Speaker 1: the Miss America's I had. This is if I was
Speaker 1: in a tux. This was the tux I was wearing.
Speaker 1: It was a dream.
Speaker 2: Well, it's time to get into time to get a
Speaker 2: new one, new memories. My little sister's wedding dress just
Speaker 2: got stolen.
Speaker 1: I heard that.
Speaker 2: Yes, you told me that.
Speaker 1: That is bizarre.
Speaker 2: We brought it to a cleaner's and they had had someone.
Speaker 2: I guess they bring in a person especially clean the
Speaker 2: wedding dresses. And I was in this person's car and
Speaker 2: along with a couple of other dresses and they all
Speaker 2: got stolen.
Speaker 1: Now did you guys know that that was a thing,
Speaker 1: because I said to Lauren, who would steal a wedding dress?
Speaker 2: And you be selling them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it happens a lot because you resell those.
Speaker 2: It happened to Claire Crawley. We talked about it.
Speaker 1: Bad Mojo.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not getting good karm in the world.
Speaker 2: If you're stealing people's wedding dresses, you are.
Speaker 1: Doomed and cursed in love. The rest of your life.
Speaker 2: It's like the it's like the marriage version of what
Speaker 2: is it? Seven years of bad sex? If you break
Speaker 2: a mirror, if you steal a wedding dress, You're never
Speaker 2: gonna have a happy marriage.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's what happened to Kevin Costner and
Speaker 1: his wife transition?
Speaker 2: Okay, our first dramatic headline of the week, Kevin Costner.
Speaker 2: This was shocking news to me? Was it shocking to you?
Speaker 2: It is announced that Kevin Costner and his wife of
Speaker 2: eighteen years are getting divorced. We had just seen them
Speaker 2: not long ago. It was kind of a bizarre video.
Speaker 2: But remember there was an awards show he was supposed
Speaker 2: to be at, might have been the Golden Globes, and
Speaker 2: he sent in this video and he said him and
Speaker 2: his wife were like stuck because it was flooding in
Speaker 2: Santa Barbara and so they couldn't get to the awards show,
Speaker 2: and everyone was kind of like, do you have a
Speaker 2: helicopter or Kevin Costner? But I mean they were just
Speaker 2: together in that video not long ago, so I guess
Speaker 2: they're pretty private. There weren't all these signs or whatever
Speaker 2: that they were splitting up. But I found it shocking
Speaker 2: eighteen years.
Speaker 1: Eighteen years. Christine is her name. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't recall really knowing much about Kevin Costner, hearing much
Speaker 1: about his life.
Speaker 2: Which I kind of admire that it keeps it so close.
Speaker 1: One of those people where you hear about him, you
Speaker 1: see him, you don't really see the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: Seems like a pretty private guy. So I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of rumors floating around. What have you
Speaker 1: after eighteen years? It's interesting to me someone brought up,
Speaker 1: you know, the question after fifteen to twenty years.
Speaker 2: I think people wonder why couldn't they make it work
Speaker 2: at that point?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What made it wrong at that point?
Speaker 1: And I guess this hit close to home because this
Speaker 1: is when we got divorced my first marriage. We were
Speaker 1: like seventeen eighteen years into it and that's when we
Speaker 1: got divorced. And I don't think they went through the
Speaker 1: same things ours was. You get married young, you have kids,
Speaker 1: you grow, you grow differently, you change, and you kind
Speaker 1: of grow apart, and you know, then you kind of
Speaker 1: muddle through several years before you realize we're just roommates
Speaker 1: and this isn't happening. What did they do for eighteen years.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the same kind of
Speaker 1: cause and effect, but I get it after that long
Speaker 1: of a time, it seems to me.
Speaker 2: You tell me, but it seems like kids make a
Speaker 2: big difference in a situation like this. And they did
Speaker 2: have kids. But I would imagine that when you have
Speaker 2: kids with someone like I did not have kids for
Speaker 2: my first marriage. I would imagine when you have kids,
Speaker 2: it would probably prolong a relationship that wouldn't be great
Speaker 2: just on its own. In the relationship because you have
Speaker 2: the kids. You're staying together for the kids, and you
Speaker 2: find joy together and the kids too. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: it's all bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that commonality and you find joy in those
Speaker 1: moments for sure, But when that ends or it starts
Speaker 1: to be less and less as the kids get older.
Speaker 2: I have to say I actually have this question less
Speaker 2: about like an eighteen twenty year marriage. I more so
Speaker 2: wonder what went wrong when so some one's like seven
Speaker 2: or eight years in. Then I think to myself, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm confused, Like you were together long enough that it
Speaker 2: seemed like you were committing, but then you kind of
Speaker 2: pulled out and didn't commit. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: Like that, that's more of my question mark moment. When
Speaker 2: you hear about people together less somewhere between five to
Speaker 2: ten years and then they break up.
Speaker 1: I know, relationships look, and I know this isn't the
Speaker 1: most revelatory sentence, but they're all difficult and they're so different.
Speaker 1: There is no relationship is the same. And so whatever
Speaker 1: you're going through, you just don't know whether it's family stuff, work, stress, cheating.
Speaker 1: You know who knows well?
Speaker 2: You know, an astrologist told me. Have I ever talked
Speaker 2: about this with the astrologist told me about us? I
Speaker 2: can't remember. Well, I had our star charts read okay,
Speaker 2: and an astrologist told me that if we are together
Speaker 2: for seven years, we're together forever.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Boy, well, we're only on five.
Speaker 1: We're honing in on that though, closing in.
Speaker 2: Maybe we got two more years. That's not nothing. I thought,
Speaker 2: on the one hand, it's a long time. On the
Speaker 2: other hand, I could fly by, but we got two
Speaker 2: more years.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be the bond before God, where
Speaker 1: we said till death to his part that would make
Speaker 1: it last. But no, Apparently there's a woman that we
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I know her. She's my astrologist.
Speaker 1: Is now dictating that we're going to be together.
Speaker 2: He's not dictating it, she's reading reading the stars starts.
Speaker 2: I got it, and I will tell everybody. She did
Speaker 2: tell me that our wedding date was not a great
Speaker 2: date for us to get married on. She said, the
Speaker 2: stars aren't aren't aligned on.
Speaker 1: We're doomed from the stars. We're doomed from the star.
Speaker 2: She said we should get legally married a few days before,
Speaker 2: just to be safe.
Speaker 1: What did you think about Peter Webber and Kelly Flanning?
Speaker 2: And he seemed to be really blown past my astrology stuff.
Speaker 2: You don't want to.
Speaker 1: Just what'd you think of Peter on this? Okay?
Speaker 2: Peter Weber and Kelly Flanning and breaking up.
Speaker 1: I was sorry to get I was sorry to hear
Speaker 1: this news.
Speaker 2: Tell me why.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I like them both same.
Speaker 1: I really like Peter and I really like Kelly. And
Speaker 1: I know you keep in touch with Kelly too.
Speaker 2: And we hung out with them. Was that in the pandemic?
Speaker 2: They came over to your house at one point?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: They done house and we hung out on the deck
Speaker 2: because Peter's parents lived very close to where we used to.
Speaker 1: Actually forgot about that. Yeah, they came up and sat,
Speaker 1: we set.
Speaker 2: Out by the fire bit got first got back together together.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I think it's when they got back together and nobody knew,
Speaker 1: and so they come out and hang in our backyard
Speaker 1: where nobody would find out. But that is yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: you know again, just kind of like the Kevin Costner thing.
Speaker 1: Who knows. I have no idea what happened, nor do
Speaker 1: I care to. That's their business. I was just sad that,
Speaker 1: you know, the chances of getting back together and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that, getting back with your X and giving
Speaker 1: it another run.
Speaker 2: You're never a big fan of that. It typically doesn't
Speaker 2: want to say people broke up for And by the way,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I told you so or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It's I only know because I've made these mistakes, I've
Speaker 2: tripped over these hurdles I'm talking about. Well, as you're
Speaker 2: saying that out loud, I'm honestly racking my brain trying
Speaker 2: to think who do I know who got back with
Speaker 2: an X and it worked out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I can't.
Speaker 2: Think of anybody it doesn't usually work out. There's got
Speaker 2: to be some examples out there, but I can't think
Speaker 2: of anybody. And look, I do think Peter and Kelly
Speaker 2: and I adore them both. I do. I think they're
Speaker 2: both great people. I get the sense from them just
Speaker 2: from only from what I know that I think they
Speaker 2: have this connection, you know, when you have a connection
Speaker 2: in a relationship, but really there are just some logistics
Speaker 2: and some personality issues in the way, and then you
Speaker 2: come back to each other and again you have that chemistry,
Speaker 2: but it's just not going to work out in the
Speaker 2: long run.
Speaker 1: I always just say, just be careful because you will
Speaker 1: quickly forget the bad things and remember the good things.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were together a good amount of time
Speaker 2: on this circle back that we had. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: circle back, you know, it's a bring it up in
Speaker 2: your inbox, it's a reply all, it's a BCC. Can
Speaker 2: we work it.
Speaker 1: Out our best of both? We love them both and
Speaker 1: wish them both the best.
Speaker 2: I've got to think of somebody. There's got to be something.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm racking my brain too. I don't know anybody.
Speaker 1: I don't know any reruns.
Speaker 2: Only new material.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the writers strike yes, we're We are obviously involved
Speaker 3: in this whole Hollywood world, although we escaped it thankfully
Speaker 3: with our lives and our souls still intact, being here
Speaker 3: in Austin, Texas, the astrologer back in the old City
Speaker 3: of Angels, what's left of it. There is a writer's
Speaker 3: strike in Hollywood and it is crushing the industry right now.
Speaker 2: But I couldn't support the writers more. I think that
Speaker 2: everything are asking for is reasonable. I understand all the
Speaker 2: points that they're making. If you have not heard about this,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been all over on every major news network.
Speaker 2: And basically these writers had put off their negotiations. They
Speaker 2: were up for negotiating new contracts, and they had, I
Speaker 2: think graciously said okay, because the pandemic will hold off.
Speaker 2: So now there are a couple of years late to
Speaker 2: getting these demands met that they have, which are very
Speaker 2: reasonable demands. And the basic of it is that the
Speaker 2: streaming industry has completely changed Hollywood completely changed the structure
Speaker 2: on which writers are trained and paid and how they
Speaker 2: move up, and they want to get that fixed so
Speaker 2: that they can make a living and move up in
Speaker 2: their industry and with a clear kind of ladder of
Speaker 2: how to climb, and I mean they want to ask
Speaker 2: about stuff, which again I think is like one thing
Speaker 2: that they said the studios wouldn't talk to them about
Speaker 2: was AI, because they wanted to address are you going
Speaker 2: to start using artificial intelgence to write scripts? And if so,
Speaker 2: are we? And the answers yeah, if they don't want to,
Speaker 2: if they don't want to talk about it, they are.
Speaker 2: And god, I can't even picture that like this.
Speaker 1: In the studio save five dollars, then they're going to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, the soullessness of a computer writing like a
Speaker 2: romantic movie just makes me sad.
Speaker 1: But the industry has changed at a at an insane pace,
Speaker 1: and I'll defend the.
Speaker 2: You know you're playing Devil's Avage.
Speaker 1: No, no, not Devil's Advocate, but you know both sides.
Speaker 1: It's changed immensely for both sides. And it's changing so
Speaker 1: fast every day, as you know, you and I are
Speaker 1: in this business, it's going quickly.
Speaker 2: I'm exhausted, but you're right.
Speaker 1: The writers are these like bastard step kids who have
Speaker 1: been left behind, which is nonsensical because they are the
Speaker 1: gold behind every show movie you love, and they have
Speaker 1: been left behind in the dust. And been treated like
Speaker 1: they are part time nothing. And they're all they're saying is, hey,
Speaker 1: we're not part time workers, We're not nothing. We deserve
Speaker 1: a little piece of this. They don't even want a
Speaker 1: huge piece, like just you got to remember us here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they've been left behind in the dust, and
Speaker 1: it's not okay.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think it's hard when you know, the
Speaker 2: CEOs of some of these companies are making hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars a year one person and as somebody
Speaker 2: pointed out, it might have been one of the representatives
Speaker 2: of the Writers Guild that years ago in Hollywood and
Speaker 2: the good old days, that the heads of studios were
Speaker 2: people who really cared about what the vibe of the
Speaker 2: studio was and what the studio was known for, what
Speaker 2: movies and you know, what energy it had, what art
Speaker 2: it put out. And now CEOs of studios are like
Speaker 2: business people and that's how they treated and the heart
Speaker 2: and the art is lost.
Speaker 1: You told me a great story, and this is kind
Speaker 1: of this encapsulates the whole thing. I was a huge
Speaker 1: fan of the show Bear about the chef.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I told you a story from a story
Speaker 2: I had heard on our friend Matt Bellanie's podcast The Town.
Speaker 1: He does a great job and he's he is and
Speaker 1: by the way, if you want to get more into
Speaker 1: this Hollywood and he does it on any much more
Speaker 1: serious Hollywood level. Matt does a good job on the Town.
Speaker 1: But you told me the story about the writer on
Speaker 1: The Bear, which was critically acclaimed, it was phenomenal, got
Speaker 1: great ratings. But this is what happened to the writer.
Speaker 2: There was a apparently again a story of a story,
Speaker 2: but a writer went to the Writer's Guild awards. The
Speaker 2: Bear is a very awarded show, and he said he
Speaker 2: couldn't even afford a suit to go because he was
Speaker 2: so he was being paid so little. And I mean,
Speaker 2: think about you know, what do we remember about movies
Speaker 2: and TV shows the lines, the quotable line, of course,
Speaker 2: or nothing without the writers. So they have my full support. Yes,
Speaker 2: them striking means Hollywood's going to come to a screeching halt,
Speaker 2: and unfortunately money is going to be lost. But as
Speaker 2: the Writer's Guild says, you know, these studios didn't have
Speaker 2: to make it come to a screeching halt, and they're
Speaker 2: crippling their own industry because they won't give in on
Speaker 2: what we think are reasonable.
Speaker 1: If you don't think this doesn't affect you, maybe you
Speaker 1: haven't felt it yet, but even as just a casual viewer,
Speaker 1: it'll start to affect you because, yeah, we're heading into summer,
Speaker 1: and then you know you're not going to have any
Speaker 1: new cool stuff to stream next fall. You're not going
Speaker 1: to have new shows because the ripple effect will land
Speaker 1: you into next year, next fall, so it will be
Speaker 1: hitting all of us soon to losing our content. You're
Speaker 1: going to see a lot more reality TV. That's what happens.
Speaker 1: A lot of the studios will start buying more reality
Speaker 1: and you also have situations. And this came up with
Speaker 1: all the late night shows, all your favorite late night shows,
Speaker 1: if you actually are anybody who watches those?
Speaker 2: Does anyone know? Some people do. But the late night
Speaker 2: shows are the first to stop down because they're nightly
Speaker 2: almost news programs. But they do have writers, and so
Speaker 2: they've got no you know, programs to bank need writers.
Speaker 2: So Jimmy Fallon, Well, let's talk about Jimmy Fallon because
Speaker 2: he was on the red carpet at the gala and
Speaker 2: he gave an interview to Variety, to Mark Malkin at
Speaker 2: Variety where he said I support the writers. In fact,
Speaker 2: I'm in the writer's guild myself. And then someone who
Speaker 2: works at the Tonight show put him on blast on
Speaker 2: Twitter and said you weren't even accused him of allegedly
Speaker 2: not being at the meeting where they told the writers
Speaker 2: you know what was going to happen next, and said
Speaker 2: he should be paying them.
Speaker 1: He wasn't the meeting where they told the writers they're
Speaker 1: not going to get paid and that nobody's getting paid.
Speaker 2: So what do you think because you've you've obviously been
Speaker 2: in that position we both have. You're the host of
Speaker 2: a show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's are you as the host of the show,
Speaker 1: and it's different being the host of say Dancy with
Speaker 1: a Star, Survivor IDOL or whatever.
Speaker 2: His names on that show.
Speaker 1: Your name is on the billboard. It is your show.
Speaker 1: So those guys, they have ownership, you know, Jimmy Kimmel,
Speaker 1: they have ownership of those shows. And they are, as
Speaker 1: you said, these like CEOs. They are making tens of millions,
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars. Are they culpable? Are they
Speaker 1: responsible for everybody? Or is it just the right thing
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I think the right thing to do
Speaker 2: is to pay people for a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't expect any one person to take on an
Speaker 2: entire staff of people's paychecks for an unending amount of time.
Speaker 2: But I remember reading a great story about the last
Speaker 2: writer's strike, the last big one was in two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, and Greg Daniels, who is the guy behind
Speaker 2: the office, gave all of his writers, you know, certain
Speaker 2: amounts of money to help them through.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I mean maybe there's a stipend it,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm guessing there are hundreds
Speaker 1: of employees at the a show like Fallon or Kimmel.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been there, I've been I've done kim
Speaker 1: Ll probably you know a dozen times. Yeah, there are
Speaker 1: hundreds of people from security to craft services, to hair
Speaker 1: and makeup, to wardrobe, to producers to direct to That's.
Speaker 2: What sorry with the writer's strike. Everybody gets.
Speaker 1: When you think of writers, you're like, okay, these writers,
Speaker 1: but they are shutting everything down. And so when you're
Speaker 1: talking about a nightly show, that is everybody losing their
Speaker 1: jobs and that's huge, and so that is it's what
Speaker 1: you have to do to make a statement but at
Speaker 1: the same time, you're no one's going to get through
Speaker 1: this unscathed. People are going to be hurt. So it
Speaker 1: is a difficult time. And I know these these shows
Speaker 1: are going to have to, you know, make those very
Speaker 1: tough calls. I I don't here's I don't love that
Speaker 1: she put Jimmy on blast. I think maybe she could
Speaker 1: have tried to handle this in house first. To go
Speaker 1: immediately day one, to put them on blast on social media,
Speaker 1: I think it's just such a thing to do. Now,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to be the first guy to first
Speaker 1: person to call him out and make because from what
Speaker 1: I hear about Fallon, I don't know him. I've heard
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. I hear you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he wants to do what's right. To put him on
Speaker 1: blast immediately, why not run it up the chain and say, hey,
Speaker 1: Jimmy might have I don't know, maybe she Maybe she did.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, that's the right first movie, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I mean I don't know. Maybe he had plans
Speaker 2: to pay people and we don't know about it. I mean,
Speaker 2: but I.
Speaker 1: Bet he does now. Gwyneth Paltrow, Yes, talking sex well
Speaker 1: with Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt Right.
Speaker 2: Gwyneth Paltro talking sex, nothing new, but she got into
Speaker 2: some specific details on the Call Her Daddy podcast. I
Speaker 2: was surprised by how open Gwyneth was. She really not
Speaker 2: even the word open revealing she was. She talked about
Speaker 2: how Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt both were in bed.
Speaker 2: She played the game f Mary Kill with Brad and
Speaker 2: Ben and her ex husband Chris Martin. She got into it.
Speaker 2: I was surprised that she was so she shared so much.
Speaker 1: What is your f Mary Kill? With Ben, Brad and
Speaker 1: Chris Martin?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I love that You're asking me, this is
Speaker 2: my future husband, what's yours?
Speaker 1: You know? And then I'll answer I would Let's see,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I would probably be Mary. Let's
Speaker 1: see Mary. Chris Martin cold play just seems steady.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't think Brad Pitt's got a good
Speaker 2: career going.
Speaker 1: I think he does, but I don't know if he's steady.
Speaker 1: I think I think probably you're gonna f Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean as a person, you think Chris Martin's
Speaker 2: more like even?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Even?
Speaker 2: Is it the beanies and the T shirts that I
Speaker 2: feel like he's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a constant. Yeah, Ben's got problem. We all
Speaker 1: know Ben's got his issues.
Speaker 2: Ben's got some ups and downs going on.
Speaker 1: You But apparently Ben is the better in bad That's what.
Speaker 2: She had more of a chemistry with Brad. But that
Speaker 2: Ben Affleck was antike uote yes, say it technically excellent.
Speaker 1: By the way, Just that's that's what a great thing
Speaker 1: to just have out there in the ether.
Speaker 2: You know, it's quite a compliment.
Speaker 1: It is quite a compliment that he's technically excellent. Well,
Speaker 1: what she did well was she didn't sounds like a
Speaker 1: gymnast routine. Her dismount was incredible nine point seven.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of that scene in Friends where Monica
Speaker 2: is explaining to Chandler how to please a woman and
Speaker 2: she draws a diagram with numbers.
Speaker 1: And she's like seven three two.
Speaker 2: Four seven seven seven. I think she didn't throw anybody
Speaker 2: under the bus, which was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was good about you know, I will say, when.
Speaker 2: You're playing f Mary kill with the father of your
Speaker 2: children as one of the people, I mean you can't
Speaker 2: obviously you can't kill him. He's the father of your kids.
Speaker 2: Need him around. I mean it's not great. So we
Speaker 2: knew she I don't know how you don't say you're
Speaker 2: going to marry again, you know Chris Martin in that situation.
Speaker 2: But I will say personally I would, Actually, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go Mary, Brad God, I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 2: want to f Ben, but I don't want to f
Speaker 2: Chris Martin either. Huh.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, we'll stop there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, Brad, I mean, good looking guys, suave,
Speaker 2: great career.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite Brad Pitt? Oh?
Speaker 2: Great question?
Speaker 1: Is it Flman Louise? Is it? River Runs Through It?
Speaker 1: Is it Benjamin Button?
Speaker 2: Nobody's favorite Brad Pitt is The Curious Case Benjamin is it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Isn't it like an aging child in that movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But at some point through.
Speaker 2: That it's nobody's favorite.
Speaker 1: Okay, is it? What was the death movie? I can't
Speaker 1: think of?
Speaker 2: Black?
Speaker 1: Is it Mityo? Black?
Speaker 2: Interview? The Vampire Troy? We could go on. My favorite
Speaker 2: Brad pit is or Oceans The Adult. It's tough because
Speaker 2: I like him with the long hair, but I think
Speaker 2: he's doing some of his best acting, and he's so
Speaker 2: charismatic in the Oceans movies. He's always eating in those movies.
Speaker 2: That's his acting thing. He's always it is.
Speaker 1: He and Cludey. I mean, you can't beat their.
Speaker 2: I know, I know. Okay, let me give I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give you one more. I'm going to give you out
Speaker 2: of the Ocean's cast, and it's been Affleck's friend f
Speaker 2: Mary Kill the Ocean's eleven movie Triumphant, George Clooney, Brad
Speaker 2: Pitt and Matt Damon. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Clooney, I'm I'm gonna marry. I'm gonna marry Clooney. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have the place in Italy. He's just smart, you know,
Speaker 1: out of an espresso coffee.
Speaker 2: He's got the espresso money.
Speaker 1: He'ss is it? Do you find that odd that those
Speaker 1: guys do the like espresso serious coin.
Speaker 2: Well they've been doing it a long time.
Speaker 1: Andy Garcia and Clooney and all those guys doing.
Speaker 2: You know, back in the day, it was that it
Speaker 2: was smart as an actor to do commercials overseas because
Speaker 2: he turns America. Okay, answer the.
Speaker 1: Question and then you know, I'll probably stick with Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt in Bed.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill Matt Day.
Speaker 1: I know he has multi so much too. He's given us,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Scorn movies Goodwill Hunting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think we'd still have it?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: Don't you think we'd have half a good Will Hunting
Speaker 1: with Ben Affleck because they wrote it together.
Speaker 2: I can't believe he killed.
Speaker 1: Matt Damon, who that's a tough one to kill somebody.
Speaker 1: You can't kill George Cloney's national trust.
Speaker 2: And to totally change it up in that situation, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna kill Brad. How dare you with those three? I
Speaker 2: would marry Matt. I think he's a good family man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's a good husband.
Speaker 1: I could see you making love to colony. That seems like.
Speaker 2: A I'd probably in your wheelhouse. I mean, he's a
Speaker 2: very classic, you know, Hollywood icon.
Speaker 1: He's one of those it guys, those guys that just
Speaker 1: have it, that it factor when they walk in a room.
Speaker 1: I remember I was at the the Globes one year
Speaker 1: and everyone the cool thing about the Globes, everyone goes
Speaker 1: to the same party, and he walked in and it
Speaker 1: was just as you want your George Clooney. Sure, kind
Speaker 1: of his tucks was just kind of his bowtie was
Speaker 1: kind of open at that point. He had like a
Speaker 1: glass of bourbon or whiskey, whatever, can.
Speaker 2: You remember a lot of details about this?
Speaker 1: And well he came up and he saddled up at
Speaker 1: the bar right next to me. Wow, I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: you could just tell he was the room. Everybody knew
Speaker 1: he was in the room.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not even talking about the most important point
Speaker 2: of this Gwyneth Paltrow story, which is that in this
Speaker 2: article they quote, yeah, like Gwyneth Paltrow spoke about her
Speaker 2: Bounce co star Ben Affleck, and weren't you in the
Speaker 2: movie Bounce?
Speaker 1: I was, they should have said, when Gwyneth Paltrow and
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck co starred in the movie Bounce with Chris Harrison.
Speaker 1: I was in the movie Bounce. This was my big
Speaker 1: Hollywood debut.
Speaker 2: Was this before The Bachelor?
Speaker 1: This is before the Bachelor? So I was already in LA.
Speaker 1: I was working at the Horse Racing Network. I think
Speaker 1: I was doing HGTV Designer's Challenge at the time, and
Speaker 1: I would go on these auditions, typically for reporter get
Speaker 1: because I did local news in Oklahoma City and just auditioning.
Speaker 1: I would do auditions and I was so green. I
Speaker 1: knew nothing of the business. So they needed a reporter,
Speaker 1: CNN reporter, So we went to the C and N building,
Speaker 1: and if you haven't seen it, spoiler alert bounces about
Speaker 1: a plane crash. And there was this really pivotal emotional
Speaker 1: scene at the end of the movie, towards the end,
Speaker 1: when Ben Affleck has this kind of come to Jesus
Speaker 1: moment and he's watching my news report. What I didn't
Speaker 1: realize at the time was when it's a Ben Affleck
Speaker 1: and Gwyneth Paltrow movie, if you are possibly in a
Speaker 1: scene with them, guess who they're going to show you.
Speaker 2: Your face isn't even on the screen my.
Speaker 1: Well, technically it is, but it's in a reflection in
Speaker 1: the painting and the picture behind Ben Fleck. Oh so
Speaker 1: you can. I was a little crestfallen this and by
Speaker 1: the way, I thought I was in the movie. So
Speaker 1: I this is before I told everybody. I told everybody
Speaker 1: my family, I told everyone I used to work with
Speaker 1: back in Oklahoma. I have made it big. I'm in
Speaker 1: Hollywood and I am I'm a movie star. And when
Speaker 1: I saw when I went to the premiere, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, well the premiere. I did go
Speaker 1: to the premiere and Ben and we're there.
Speaker 2: Thank you for spoiling the two thousand film bounce. Okay,
Speaker 2: next up, we're going to get into this Heather ray Young. Yeah,
Speaker 2: private jet situation. So Heather ray Young. The headlines are
Speaker 2: slammed for detailing Sun's first flight on private jet, apparently
Speaker 2: people saying she was tone deaf because she spoke about
Speaker 2: bringing her three month old son on his first flight,
Speaker 2: talking about how he did a good job and how
Speaker 2: she breastfed him to like help with the flying, you know,
Speaker 2: the pressure on the plane and all that, and I
Speaker 2: guess people were commenting and saying that it was tone
Speaker 2: deaf of her because most moms obviously can't fly private.
Speaker 1: I actually saw this, which I didn't know much about
Speaker 1: Heather ray Young, but I found this very interesting how
Speaker 1: up in arms everybody was.
Speaker 2: I have interviewed her and Tark before. They're both lovely people,
Speaker 2: and I am coming to her defense on this. I
Speaker 2: was bothered by this because she didn't say, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: such an easy flight like she did. What she said
Speaker 2: was she was just explaining what she did to help
Speaker 2: with the pressure in his little ears and just kind
Speaker 2: of detailing a hack on that, right.
Speaker 1: I agreed that she wasn't.
Speaker 2: Saying what an easy travel experience navigating the airport and
Speaker 2: all that. She was literally talking about what it's like
Speaker 2: to have an infant baby in an airplane going through
Speaker 2: the air like.
Speaker 1: With this kissed me off.
Speaker 2: It did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this really kind of pissed me off.
Speaker 2: Okay, number one, I'll.
Speaker 1: Back her up. The breastfeeding to pop the baby's ears
Speaker 1: and to keep the pressure. Been there, done that, and
Speaker 1: you're right, because there's nothing worse than when you take
Speaker 1: off babies crying. I mean, they lose it. It is a
Speaker 1: special kind of cry.
Speaker 2: So you're constantly breastfeeding.
Speaker 1: I am constantly breastfeeding. I am the town wet nurse anyway,
Speaker 1: So kudos to you on the tip. But when everybody
Speaker 1: got so up in arms, she didn't say like you said.
Speaker 1: She wasn't saying how tough it is to fly. She
Speaker 1: wasn't saying anything about that. All she would doing was
Speaker 1: just trying to share what she does all the time.
Speaker 1: That's her thing, her lifestyle, to share that this was
Speaker 1: baby's first flight. I don't care that she had nanny's.
Speaker 1: I don't get by the way, I would do the
Speaker 1: same thing if I was able to fly private all
Speaker 1: the time and have nanny's with my kids. And help
Speaker 1: and fifty people and a chef and a masseuse. You
Speaker 1: don't think I would. You would too, you hypocrites. You
Speaker 1: would too if I had Southwest Airlines over here and
Speaker 1: you have C twenty.
Speaker 2: Four or there's this Oh sure, but nobody's saying, beautiful jet.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be on that jet.
Speaker 2: Well, nobody's saying they wouldn't take it. They were What
Speaker 2: people were upset about is they were saying, it's tone
Speaker 2: uf to like share that and to act like you
Speaker 2: kind of went through this struggle. But to me, what
Speaker 2: was important was that it wasn't this specific like she
Speaker 2: wasn't specifically saying, oh, he was so great going through
Speaker 2: the airport and we had such an easy time. She
Speaker 2: was just talking about a baby in the press, sure
Speaker 2: of an airplane literally tone death. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think you know. I read something from like Kate Blanchitt
Speaker 2: about her last movie coming out, and she said that
Speaker 2: she doesn't think it's possible today. I'm not directly quoting her,
Speaker 2: but to put anything out there without it getting critiqued,
Speaker 2: I agree. I think today, if you're going to put
Speaker 2: anything out there, I mean I and by the way,
Speaker 2: circling back on the wedding dress stuff. Somebody messaged me
Speaker 2: and said, you should realize you're coming from such a
Speaker 2: place of privilege by getting married, and you should show
Speaker 2: some humility and stop talking about the wedding. And I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I mean, well I didn't. I really
Speaker 2: didn't think I was stopped.
Speaker 1: Following me if you don't want to hear about the
Speaker 1: wedding stuff following, well, I just didn't.
Speaker 2: I really, I mean to be honest, I didn't really
Speaker 2: think I was talking about it that much. And I
Speaker 2: was kind of laughing about it, showing photos of myself
Speaker 2: looking pretty crappy in some of these wedding dresses actually,
Speaker 2: and I was just just sort of sharing. So it's
Speaker 2: such a it's such a double edged sword social media.
Speaker 2: You can really connect with people, but you have to
Speaker 2: know you're going to get some.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, there's nothing you're to get to put
Speaker 1: out there in the world that isn't going to be
Speaker 1: critiqued and taken down and shut down. So I got
Speaker 1: her back. By the way, Heather and Taric both going
Speaker 1: to join us on the show coming up.
Speaker 2: Oh great, Yeah, okay, did not know we'd booked that.
Speaker 1: We did, ye yeah, so we'll talk about this. I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk to her about this, and I just
Speaker 1: I'm because I'm curious if she felt defensive about it,
Speaker 1: if she's like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry, or she.
Speaker 2: Was like she kind of I think she lets it
Speaker 2: roll off her back. But what I'm interested in is
Speaker 2: how much she's sharing of this stuff, Like, are there
Speaker 2: things that you that you don't share because you feel
Speaker 2: like this is you know, you just don't want to
Speaker 2: deal with it, or do you kind of keep sharing
Speaker 2: everything and just accept the criticism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well good for you. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: you can fly private, do it as someone who just
Speaker 1: left the airport. Hey, I wish I had had the
Speaker 1: private plane. I will take it all.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, we figured out a lot of wedding stuff
Speaker 2: here today.
Speaker 1: We did. I did. I learned a lot. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys for letting me have this podcast so I can
Speaker 1: find out what's going on with my wedding and with
Speaker 1: my fiance, who I love and adore.
Speaker 2: By the way, we're not doing invitations, and.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is there's another note. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: checking these things off as we go.
Speaker 2: You know, Estrala just said not to.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to marry you.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Thanks, I'm just a boy standing in front of a
Speaker 1: girl ready to marry her. That's a shout out to
Speaker 1: our writers. Nodding Hill.
Speaker 2: Yes, I actually one of the writers had that on
Speaker 2: the sign. She said, I'm just a girl standing in
Speaker 2: front of a studio asking them to pay her. There
Speaker 2: you go, There you go.
Speaker 1: One of the best written films of all time. That's
Speaker 1: the note we'll leave you on. Thanks everybody, Thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us. We will talk to you next time
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