WEBVTT - This is Dramatic: A Dramatic Reveal about Kelley and Peter & Chris’ Wedding

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas. Hope everybody's doing great today.

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<v Speaker 1>Just got home from a big trip and Lauren and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, let's sit down and record a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you literally just got home. Youveen gone so long

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<v Speaker 2>for days and days. I haven't slept, I haven't eaten.

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<v Speaker 2>I was alone so much. I was alone.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys follow LZ on social media, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you do, because I do. And that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what's going on in the world and what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to walk into. When I see there is

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<v Speaker 1>a stream of stories and there's like twenty stories. I

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<v Speaker 1>know she hasn't slept in days. I know she probably

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't eaten, and she hasn't left the house. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking into a dark situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't own this. I can't just find my behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>I should be a more functioning adult, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there should be more functional I really should. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird. On the one hand, I consider myself a strong,

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<v Speaker 2>independent person, and then on the other hand, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fairal child, don't I can't. When you were gone,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really eat. I'm not joking. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>just drank coffee yesterday and I had a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>cheese at one point. And I'm not trying not to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how to make food. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I say that I was gone, I was alone for

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<v Speaker 2>so long. I was alone for one day because.

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<v Speaker 1>Two nights, two nights, you ended up at babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for saying that it was too you.

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<v Speaker 1>You were strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for defending me against myself. My mom and

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<v Speaker 2>sister came into town. Here's the thing, I never mind

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<v Speaker 2>you going on a trip. I'm always like, go on

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<v Speaker 2>a trip to your thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that you're very supportive.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're both like that, but when you are. Part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason I don't mind is because I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>type of person like when you go somewhere, I fill

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<v Speaker 2>my time. I have a friend come into town, or

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<v Speaker 2>my mother or my sister coming to town, or I

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<v Speaker 2>make a bunch of plans with friends. But there was

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<v Speaker 2>this one day when I got really caught up in

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<v Speaker 2>wedding stuff. And I am not exaggerating. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if anybody has a day like this, I'm calling it

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<v Speaker 2>a lost day. I don't know what happened to my brain,

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<v Speaker 2>to my time management ability. I ended up sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>our kitchen counter on my laptop working on wedding stuff

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<v Speaker 2>for ten hours. My back hurt at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't my eyes were twitching because it's staring at

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<v Speaker 2>a screen.

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<v Speaker 1>What I found out, so I was on this trip

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<v Speaker 1>and I had very little touch with the real world.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you had no Wi Fi and cell service remote area.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I was. This particular camp we had it was

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<v Speaker 1>summer camp. We had electricity from three in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>until eight in the morning, and that was it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they would turn off the generator.

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<v Speaker 2>Picture you were like, it was like Samuel L. Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>in Jurassic Park was like switching pretty generator on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I found out when I did get there's one

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<v Speaker 1>place at this compound where you could get Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>for a few hours a night. And I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>you went wedding dress shopping. Yes, I did, and you

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<v Speaker 1>picked a dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And then you were kind of upset with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Not upset, I was jealous, is what I said. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you in all these dresses because I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>these pictures. The first time I saw all these pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of you trying on dresses was with the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. You were posting them on Instagram, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little jealous that you were sharing this

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<v Speaker 1>with all of us at the same time. I'm so sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was excited to learn on Instagram. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is how I found out. She didn't tell me, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I have the dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have told you. I didn't even know you

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<v Speaker 2>were on your phone at all. I thought you would

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<v Speaker 2>know service I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got this message via Instagram. I found the dress. So

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<v Speaker 1>I text you and I said, oh, congratulations, I hear

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<v Speaker 1>you found our wedding dress.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's strange. I actually felt I really never

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<v Speaker 2>would have intended to even show you those photos. And

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<v Speaker 2>I only posted pictures on Instagram of wedding dresses that

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<v Speaker 2>did not work out and that are very far from

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<v Speaker 2>the actual dress I ended up choosing because, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have this moment where you're away the

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<v Speaker 2>dress is white.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a moment when you were debating a black

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<v Speaker 1>wedding dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, well, I mean I considered it. I I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel the like if you want to. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to not feel a funeral energy from it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, someone pointed out to me that how

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<v Speaker 2>often do we wear a little black dress to dinner

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<v Speaker 2>or to a party or whatever, So why not wear

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<v Speaker 2>a white dress? And it's a little bit more different

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<v Speaker 2>for the big day.

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<v Speaker 1>But the dress has been chosen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And okay, I never really intended to show you

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<v Speaker 2>those photos of me. I mean, I know that I

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<v Speaker 2>put them on Instagram, but I don't know in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>all the people who I interact with on Instagram are

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<v Speaker 2>like my friends, and I was sort of almost sharing

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<v Speaker 2>them with my girlfriends almost and being like, look, how

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<v Speaker 2>how bad these dresses looked on me. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>think I would not have taken my phone and showed

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<v Speaker 2>you the photos.

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<v Speaker 1>But but now you see how that logic is flawed, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I put it on Instagram for all the world

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<v Speaker 2>to see. I see what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So, speaking of breakups.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, can I have a serious question. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that I mean, I feel bad. Did that

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<v Speaker 2>ruin it for you in anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Our wedding? Well, at the moment, the dress, no, because Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the dress looks like, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to post that I don't think, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what the dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of me wants to test. I mean, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>love when women test people? This is so toxic for relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see. I want to ask you what

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<v Speaker 2>type of dress you think I'm I would.

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<v Speaker 1>You would like to set me up for failures? What

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to know? What you'd like is to

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<v Speaker 1>set me up to call on a in a pit

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<v Speaker 1>of vipers.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see how well you know me. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm worried. I actually think you know me really well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm worried that you're gonna come close to it

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<v Speaker 2>and then my face won't be able to like hide

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<v Speaker 2>the reactioners.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I fail miserably and it's nothing like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I will You and I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>have different tastes. I don't know if most couples are

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<v Speaker 2>like this. You actually, if you go pick something out

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<v Speaker 2>for me, you don't pick out something bad, but you

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<v Speaker 2>don't really pick out like you just have different tastes

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<v Speaker 2>than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of like a flowy sort of Texas cowgirl

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<v Speaker 2>type of dress, and I'm more like structured fitted Audrey

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<v Speaker 2>Hepburn breakfast at Tiffany's Energy. So you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Different well, your old school, your classic Hollywood. Well, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for saying that you are. You are Hepburn, you are.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference is and now I'm going to get mad

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<v Speaker 2>at you. If I were picking out close for you,

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<v Speaker 2>I would pick out something I know you would like.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be golf clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have that one time I bought you. I've

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<v Speaker 2>bought you some sweaters before that, a little outside your

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<v Speaker 2>comfort zone, and you do wear them. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>look good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Try and honestly, here's the thing. For guys, for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, we're pretty easy. If you bias something and

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<v Speaker 1>you say I love you in that, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>look sexy in that, you look great in that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to wear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, you're right, I feel a little differently. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>you told me, I think I'd wear it for you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still wouldn't feel great in set outfit I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, really? Yeah, okay, here's another question. We haven't talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this. Do you know what a first look is?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the wedding, Okay, of course, yeah, should we

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<v Speaker 2>do that or do you want to see me for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't want to do that. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just flashed back to Ari and Lauren's wedding. I

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<v Speaker 1>officiated for them honorably.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, we were dating in secret at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. That's right, And so I couldn't come to

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<v Speaker 2>the wedding with you because no one knew we were dating.

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<v Speaker 1>There. Yeah, because there's a lot of Bachelor people, well

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<v Speaker 1>some some of the Bachelor producers and uh, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I officiated, and so I was with Ari and the

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<v Speaker 1>guys beforehand, and he did a first look. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a fake one first, or he did a fake one first.

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<v Speaker 1>One of his buddies, one of his groomsmen, put on

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding dress. Yes, I've seen it, so he turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and then they did the real first look. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's for your videos and pictures and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. That's really cute. So I get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that. I don't need that. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. I really want the moment when you step

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<v Speaker 1>out and everybody enjoys it at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my opinion, I think a lot of people do

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<v Speaker 2>it to save time on photos. They do the first

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<v Speaker 2>look so they can take pictures beforehand, and I totally

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<v Speaker 2>understand that. And my little sister and her husband did

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<v Speaker 2>a first look, and I was worried it would take

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<v Speaker 2>the emotion away, but he was still bawling when she

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<v Speaker 2>walked down the aisle. It was still all so emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is something I feel the same. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me, like I picture that moment. I actually told

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<v Speaker 2>you that the only moment I really cared about for

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<v Speaker 2>our wedding and why I felt like it had to

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit of a traditional wedding was walking

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<v Speaker 2>down the aisle, and I I want to have that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I want to do a first look.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>We agree, we agree more time taking pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy, you have the dress I do, and there will

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<v Speaker 1>not be a first look. No, okay, good. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that we were doing this with the world, so at

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<v Speaker 1>least we're getting a ton we're getting it done, checking

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<v Speaker 1>this off the list.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really surprised I cried with the dress twice. Twice.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not think I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would, because here's the thing. In all fairness, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>you liked a dress because you said, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>a dress shop today by myself and I cried, just

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<v Speaker 1>you and the shop attendant and you cried. And which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I'm guessing if you work at a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding shop, I'm that probably happens a lot. There's emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet that's a very interesting job to be someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's selling wedding dresses because you're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Me it's a very joyful well you think.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I bet it's also stressful because totally moms

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<v Speaker 1>are involved, mother in laws are involved.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of energy balance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I bet it is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom metal my mom both had a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>say and in the moments where she was silent that if.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a therapist, that might be a great job for

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<v Speaker 1>you selling wedding dresses, because I bet.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear it all you're doing negotiations.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, if you sell wedding dresses, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have some good stories, leave a message below.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have to have seen it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Drop into the most dramatic pod ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, comment, I would really be interested in some of

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest wedding dress shopping stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet they are their most extreme. Well, I was

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<v Speaker 2>surprised because and by the way, I mean I've said

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<v Speaker 2>before I'm divorced. Even when I got married the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not that person whoever, Like, I just did

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<v Speaker 2>not grow up picturing what my wedding would look like,

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<v Speaker 2>what my dress would look like, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>harder when planning it, because you don't have a box

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing it, you don't have a vision you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to meet and all the white dresses start to look

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<v Speaker 2>the same at some point. And so I especially us

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<v Speaker 2>getting married again. I mean, I love you, and all

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do is marry you, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>marry you in our living room tomorrow. So this time around,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even a first time bride, and in a

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<v Speaker 2>very good way, I'm not that concerned with everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally telling every attendant at every story I

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<v Speaker 2>went to, like, I don't think I'm gonna cry, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, like I'm not gonna have the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, and don't think there's anything wrong, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not me. I was very like Miranda in Sex

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<v Speaker 2>and the City, like no, I just want to dress

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<v Speaker 2>and then I put this dress on, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>put the veil on me, and I freaking started crying.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was there the first time I went. I

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<v Speaker 2>even I was so casual about it, and I went alone.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom and sister weren't even in town yet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just went by myself and I was crying alone

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<v Speaker 2>with this very sweet one.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you wearing a veil? I mean, TV, did you

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<v Speaker 1>just drop that nugget?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just she put a veil on me. I

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not going to tell you any more details.

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<v Speaker 1>Well just tell everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to put it on. You want to see it there,

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<v Speaker 2>please follow me at Lauren Zima Chris Harrison, there is

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when you followed me on Twitter? When we were dating,

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<v Speaker 2>we realized we weren't following me on.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a while. It was a long we were dating,

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<v Speaker 1>a like, no, we had already said I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>We've been dating for two years, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I realized he wasn't following me on Twitter. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you really dating? If you're not following someone on

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<v Speaker 1>social media? It kind of shows you how relevant Twitter is.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of this is, there's really no sing.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what you're wearing on the wedding day?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll wear a tux.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you know which one? Are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a new one? You have a couple in your

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<v Speaker 2>closet the job used to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a few tuxedos. I'll probably get a

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<v Speaker 1>new one.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, I thought you had this one tux you

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<v Speaker 2>loved so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. But this is a story that nobody cares about.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a there is a tuxedo. And Carrie Fetman,

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<v Speaker 1>who I love and adore, is one of our dear friends.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the clothier on.

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<v Speaker 2>The Batch, longtime stylist of the Bachelor franchise, and the nicest,

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<v Speaker 2>funniest one.

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<v Speaker 1>And only style. Actually it's not true. We've had two stylists,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not. I don't remember her name. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a stylist season one. It was just not and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was a disaster and I didn't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was new to network TV, and so I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just show up and someone gave me some really

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<v Speaker 1>bad clothes. I look like looked like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, something out of the eighties or nineties, very puffy, very.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in these early days. It was just early two

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<v Speaker 2>years and.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned something about can I buy some different clothes

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<v Speaker 1>or get and they said, you can do whatever. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the host. You can like hire whoever you want. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually hire Carry. Somebody else brought him in. Wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Turned out to be the greatest thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have been dear friends ever since. He's dressed

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<v Speaker 1>all the bacheorettes and everybody. Anyway, So we have a

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<v Speaker 1>this amazing Dulcha Gabona tucks and so I told him

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<v Speaker 1>he's the only one that knows this. I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be buried in this tuxedo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well buried, not married and married.

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<v Speaker 1>But I loved it so much. I said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is it, This is the suit I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just rest in forever. And we lost it. Wait what

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<v Speaker 1>we lost it?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you lose a tuxedo?

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<v Speaker 1>We lost half of it. We don't know where. We

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<v Speaker 1>took it to the cleaners or something. We lost it

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<v Speaker 1>and we called Dulce. We tried to recreate this. It

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be done, Honey, I'm just learning this heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this upsetting? You loved that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? It almost broke carry An eye up. We've to

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<v Speaker 1>this day. It's our When did this happen? I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>learning about years ago. I wore this thing on all

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<v Speaker 1>the Miss America's I had. This is if I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a tux. This was the tux I was wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's time to get into time to get a

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<v Speaker 2>new one, new memories. My little sister's wedding dress just

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<v Speaker 2>got stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you told me that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>We brought it to a cleaner's and they had had someone.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they bring in a person especially clean the

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<v Speaker 2>wedding dresses. And I was in this person's car and

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<v Speaker 2>along with a couple of other dresses and they all

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<v Speaker 2>got stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>Now did you guys know that that was a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because I said to Lauren, who would steal a wedding dress?

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<v Speaker 2>And you be selling them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it happens a lot because you resell those.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened to Claire Crawley. We talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad Mojo.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're not getting good karm in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're stealing people's wedding dresses, you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Doomed and cursed in love. The rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the it's like the marriage version of what

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<v Speaker 2>is it? Seven years of bad sex? If you break

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<v Speaker 2>a mirror, if you steal a wedding dress, You're never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a happy marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's what happened to Kevin Costner and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife transition?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, our first dramatic headline of the week, Kevin Costner.

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<v Speaker 2>This was shocking news to me? Was it shocking to you?

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<v Speaker 2>It is announced that Kevin Costner and his wife of

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen years are getting divorced. We had just seen them

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<v Speaker 2>not long ago. It was kind of a bizarre video.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember there was an awards show he was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be at, might have been the Golden Globes, and

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<v Speaker 2>he sent in this video and he said him and

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<v Speaker 2>his wife were like stuck because it was flooding in

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Barbara and so they couldn't get to the awards show,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone was kind of like, do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter or Kevin Costner? But I mean they were just

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<v Speaker 2>together in that video not long ago, so I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty private. There weren't all these signs or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>that they were splitting up. But I found it shocking

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteen years. Christine is her name. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall really knowing much about Kevin Costner, hearing much

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<v Speaker 1>about his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I kind of admire that it keeps it so close.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those people where you hear about him, you

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<v Speaker 1>see him, you don't really see the rest of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like a pretty private guy. So I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all kinds of rumors floating around. What have you

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<v Speaker 1>after eighteen years? It's interesting to me someone brought up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the question after fifteen to twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people wonder why couldn't they make it work

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<v Speaker 2>at that point?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What made it wrong at that point?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess this hit close to home because this

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<v Speaker 1>is when we got divorced my first marriage. We were

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen eighteen years into it and that's when we

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<v Speaker 1>got divorced. And I don't think they went through the

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<v Speaker 1>same things ours was. You get married young, you have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you grow, you grow differently, you change, and you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of grow apart, and you know, then you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>muddle through several years before you realize we're just roommates

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<v Speaker 1>and this isn't happening. What did they do for eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was the same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cause and effect, but I get it after that long

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<v Speaker 1>of a time, it seems to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell me, but it seems like kids make a

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<v Speaker 2>big difference in a situation like this. And they did

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<v Speaker 2>have kids. But I would imagine that when you have

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<v Speaker 2>kids with someone like I did not have kids for

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<v Speaker 2>my first marriage. I would imagine when you have kids,

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<v Speaker 2>it would probably prolong a relationship that wouldn't be great

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<v Speaker 2>just on its own. In the relationship because you have

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<v Speaker 2>the kids. You're staying together for the kids, and you

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<v Speaker 2>find joy together and the kids too. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's all bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's that commonality and you find joy in those

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<v Speaker 1>moments for sure, But when that ends or it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to be less and less as the kids get older.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say I actually have this question less

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<v Speaker 2>about like an eighteen twenty year marriage. I more so

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what went wrong when so some one's like seven

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<v Speaker 2>or eight years in. Then I think to myself, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confused, Like you were together long enough that it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like you were committing, but then you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pulled out and didn't commit. You know what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, that's more of my question mark moment. When

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<v Speaker 2>you hear about people together less somewhere between five to

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<v Speaker 2>ten years and then they break up.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, relationships look, and I know this isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>most revelatory sentence, but they're all difficult and they're so different.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no relationship is the same. And so whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through, you just don't know whether it's family stuff, work, stress, cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who knows well?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, an astrologist told me. Have I ever talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this with the astrologist told me about us? I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember. Well, I had our star charts read okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and an astrologist told me that if we are together

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<v Speaker 2>for seven years, we're together forever.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, well, we're only on five.

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<v Speaker 1>We're honing in on that though, closing in.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we got two more years. That's not nothing. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>on the one hand, it's a long time. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, I could fly by, but we got two

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<v Speaker 2>more years.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be the bond before God, where

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<v Speaker 1>we said till death to his part that would make

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<v Speaker 1>it last. But no, Apparently there's a woman that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know her. She's my astrologist.

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<v Speaker 1>Is now dictating that we're going to be together.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not dictating it, she's reading reading the stars starts.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it, and I will tell everybody. She did

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<v Speaker 2>tell me that our wedding date was not a great

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<v Speaker 2>date for us to get married on. She said, the

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<v Speaker 2>stars aren't aren't aligned on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doomed from the stars. We're doomed from the star.

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<v Speaker 2>She said we should get legally married a few days before,

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<v Speaker 2>just to be safe.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think about Peter Webber and Kelly Flanning?

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<v Speaker 2>And he seemed to be really blown past my astrology stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Just what'd you think of Peter on this? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Weber and Kelly Flanning and breaking up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sorry to get I was sorry to hear

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<v Speaker 1>this news.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me why.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just I like them both same.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like Peter and I really like Kelly. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know you keep in touch with Kelly too.

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<v Speaker 2>And we hung out with them. Was that in the pandemic?

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<v Speaker 2>They came over to your house at one point?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>They done house and we hung out on the deck

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<v Speaker 2>because Peter's parents lived very close to where we used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually forgot about that. Yeah, they came up and sat,

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<v Speaker 1>we set.

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<v Speaker 2>Out by the fire bit got first got back together together.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's when they got back together and nobody knew,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they come out and hang in our backyard

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<v Speaker 1>where nobody would find out. But that is yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, just kind of like the Kevin Costner thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. I have no idea what happened, nor do

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<v Speaker 1>I care to. That's their business. I was just sad that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the chances of getting back together and we'll

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about that, getting back with your X and giving

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<v Speaker 1>it another run.

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<v Speaker 2>You're never a big fan of that. It typically doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say people broke up for And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I told you so or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I only know because I've made these mistakes, I've

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<v Speaker 2>tripped over these hurdles I'm talking about. Well, as you're

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.200
<v Speaker 2>saying that out loud, I'm honestly racking my brain trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think who do I know who got back with

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<v Speaker 2>an X and it worked out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I can't.

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Think of anybody it doesn't usually work out. There's got

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to be some examples out there, but I can't think

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<v Speaker 2>of anybody. And look, I do think Peter and Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>and I adore them both. I do. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>both great people. I get the sense from them just

0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:34.880
<v Speaker 2>from only from what I know that I think they

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:36.719
<v Speaker 2>have this connection, you know, when you have a connection

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, but really there are just some logistics

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>and some personality issues in the way, and then you

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 2>come back to each other and again you have that chemistry,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just not going to work out in the

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<v Speaker 2>long run.

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<v Speaker 1>I always just say, just be careful because you will

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>quickly forget the bad things and remember the good things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were together a good amount of time

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 2>on this circle back that we had. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>circle back, you know, it's a bring it up in

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<v Speaker 2>your inbox, it's a reply all, it's a BCC. Can

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<v Speaker 2>we work it.

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<v Speaker 1>Out our best of both? We love them both and

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<v Speaker 1>wish them both the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to think of somebody. There's got to be something.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm racking my brain too. I don't know anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know any reruns.

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<v Speaker 2>Only new material.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the writers strike yes, we're We are obviously involved

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<v Speaker 3>in this whole Hollywood world, although we escaped it thankfully

0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.640
<v Speaker 3>with our lives and our souls still intact, being here

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<v Speaker 3>in Austin, Texas, the astrologer back in the old City

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<v Speaker 3>of Angels, what's left of it. There is a writer's

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<v Speaker 3>strike in Hollywood and it is crushing the industry right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I couldn't support the writers more. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>everything are asking for is reasonable. I understand all the

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 2>points that they're making. If you have not heard about this,

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's been all over on every major news network.

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 2>And basically these writers had put off their negotiations. They

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:17.439
<v Speaker 2>were up for negotiating new contracts, and they had, I

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 2>think graciously said okay, because the pandemic will hold off.

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 2>So now there are a couple of years late to

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.959
<v Speaker 2>getting these demands met that they have, which are very

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>reasonable demands. And the basic of it is that the

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 2>streaming industry has completely changed Hollywood completely changed the structure

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<v Speaker 2>on which writers are trained and paid and how they

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<v Speaker 2>move up, and they want to get that fixed so

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<v Speaker 2>that they can make a living and move up in

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<v Speaker 2>their industry and with a clear kind of ladder of

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>how to climb, and I mean they want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>about stuff, which again I think is like one thing

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 2>that they said the studios wouldn't talk to them about

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.719
<v Speaker 2>was AI, because they wanted to address are you going

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>to start using artificial intelgence to write scripts? And if so,

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<v Speaker 2>are we? And the answers yeah, if they don't want to,

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:05.240
<v Speaker 2>if they don't want to talk about it, they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And god, I can't even picture that like this.

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<v Speaker 1>In the studio save five dollars, then they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the soullessness of a computer writing like a

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>romantic movie just makes me sad.

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<v Speaker 1>But the industry has changed at a at an insane pace,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll defend the.

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 2>You know you're playing Devil's Avage.

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>No, no, not Devil's Advocate, but you know both sides.

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>It's changed immensely for both sides. And it's changing so

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<v Speaker 1>fast every day, as you know, you and I are

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>in this business, it's going quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm exhausted, but you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>The writers are these like bastard step kids who have

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<v Speaker 1>been left behind, which is nonsensical because they are the

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.679
<v Speaker 1>gold behind every show movie you love, and they have

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>been left behind in the dust. And been treated like

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>they are part time nothing. And they're all they're saying is, hey,

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>we're not part time workers, We're not nothing. We deserve

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a little piece of this. They don't even want a

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>huge piece, like just you got to remember us here.

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they've been left behind in the dust, and

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I think it's hard when you know, the

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 2>CEOs of some of these companies are making hundreds of

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars a year one person and as somebody

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>pointed out, it might have been one of the representatives

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 2>of the Writers Guild that years ago in Hollywood and

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 2>the good old days, that the heads of studios were

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 2>people who really cared about what the vibe of the

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 2>studio was and what the studio was known for, what

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 2>movies and you know, what energy it had, what art

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>it put out. And now CEOs of studios are like

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>business people and that's how they treated and the heart

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and the art is lost.

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>You told me a great story, and this is kind

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>of this encapsulates the whole thing. I was a huge

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>fan of the show Bear about the chef.

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I told you a story from a story

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I had heard on our friend Matt Bellanie's podcast The Town.

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>He does a great job and he's he is and

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you want to get more into

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>this Hollywood and he does it on any much more

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>serious Hollywood level. Matt does a good job on the Town.

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>But you told me the story about the writer on

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>The Bear, which was critically acclaimed, it was phenomenal, got

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>great ratings. But this is what happened to the writer.

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>There was a apparently again a story of a story,

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>but a writer went to the Writer's Guild awards. The

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Bear is a very awarded show, and he said he

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even afford a suit to go because he was

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 2>so he was being paid so little. And I mean,

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 2>think about you know, what do we remember about movies

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and TV shows the lines, the quotable line, of course,

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 2>or nothing without the writers. So they have my full support. Yes,

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 2>them striking means Hollywood's going to come to a screeching halt,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately money is going to be lost. But as

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the Writer's Guild says, you know, these studios didn't have

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to make it come to a screeching halt, and they're

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 2>crippling their own industry because they won't give in on

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 2>what we think are reasonable.

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>If you don't think this doesn't affect you, maybe you

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>haven't felt it yet, but even as just a casual viewer,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it'll start to affect you because, yeah, we're heading into summer,

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you know you're not going to have any

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>new cool stuff to stream next fall. You're not going

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to have new shows because the ripple effect will land

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>you into next year, next fall, so it will be

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>hitting all of us soon to losing our content. You're

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>going to see a lot more reality TV. That's what happens.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the studios will start buying more reality

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and you also have situations. And this came up with

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 1>all the late night shows, all your favorite late night shows,

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>if you actually are anybody who watches those?

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Does anyone know? Some people do. But the late night

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>shows are the first to stop down because they're nightly

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 2>almost news programs. But they do have writers, and so

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>they've got no you know, programs to bank need writers.

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 2>So Jimmy Fallon, Well, let's talk about Jimmy Fallon because

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>he was on the red carpet at the gala and

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 2>he gave an interview to Variety, to Mark Malkin at

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Variety where he said I support the writers. In fact,

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the writer's guild myself. And then someone who

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>works at the Tonight show put him on blast on

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Twitter and said you weren't even accused him of allegedly

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>not being at the meeting where they told the writers

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what was going to happen next, and said

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>he should be paying them.

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't the meeting where they told the writers they're

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to get paid and that nobody's getting paid.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 2>So what do you think because you've you've obviously been

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 2>in that position we both have. You're the host of

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>a show.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's are you as the host of the show,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's different being the host of say Dancy with

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a Star, Survivor IDOL or whatever.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>His names on that show.

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Your name is on the billboard. It is your show.

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So those guys, they have ownership, you know, Jimmy Kimmel,

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they have ownership of those shows. And they are, as

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you said, these like CEOs. They are making tens of millions,

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions of dollars. Are they culpable? Are they

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>responsible for everybody? Or is it just the right thing

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, I think the right thing to do

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>is to pay people for a little bit. I mean,

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't expect any one person to take on an

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>entire staff of people's paychecks for an unending amount of time.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 2>But I remember reading a great story about the last

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>writer's strike, the last big one was in two thousand

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>and eight, and Greg Daniels, who is the guy behind

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>the office, gave all of his writers, you know, certain

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>amounts of money to help them through.

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, I mean maybe there's a stipend it,

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know. I'm guessing there are hundreds

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of employees at the a show like Fallon or Kimmel.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been there, I've been I've done kim

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Ll probably you know a dozen times. Yeah, there are

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people from security to craft services, to hair

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and makeup, to wardrobe, to producers to direct to That's.

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>What sorry with the writer's strike. Everybody gets.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>When you think of writers, you're like, okay, these writers,

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>but they are shutting everything down. And so when you're

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about a nightly show, that is everybody losing their

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>jobs and that's huge, and so that is it's what

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to do to make a statement but at

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the same time, you're no one's going to get through

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>this unscathed. People are going to be hurt. So it

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>is a difficult time. And I know these these shows

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>are going to have to, you know, make those very

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>tough calls. I I don't here's I don't love that

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>she put Jimmy on blast. I think maybe she could

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>have tried to handle this in house first. To go

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>immediately day one, to put them on blast on social media,

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just such a thing to do. Now,

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to be the first guy to first

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>person to call him out and make because from what

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I hear about Fallon, I don't know him. I've heard

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>he's a good guy. I hear you know, I'm sure

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>he wants to do what's right. To put him on

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>blast immediately, why not run it up the chain and say, hey,

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy might have I don't know, maybe she Maybe she did.

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, that's the right first movie, Yeah,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>And I mean I don't know. Maybe he had plans

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>to pay people and we don't know about it. I mean,

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>but I.

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Bet he does now. Gwyneth Paltrow, Yes, talking sex well

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>with Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt Right.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Gwyneth Paltro talking sex, nothing new, but she got into

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>some specific details on the Call Her Daddy podcast. I

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>was surprised by how open Gwyneth was. She really not

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>even the word open revealing she was. She talked about

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>how Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt both were in bed.

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 2>She played the game f Mary Kill with Brad and

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Ben and her ex husband Chris Martin. She got into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised that she was so she shared so much.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your f Mary Kill? With Ben, Brad and

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Chris Martin?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I love that You're asking me, this is

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<v Speaker 2>my future husband, what's yours?

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>You know? And then I'll answer I would Let's see,

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a good question. I would probably be Mary. Let's

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>see Mary. Chris Martin cold play just seems steady.

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't think Brad Pitt's got a good

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>career going.

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he does, but I don't know if he's steady.

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I think probably you're gonna f Brad Pitt.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh you mean as a person, you think Chris Martin's

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<v Speaker 2>more like even?

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Even?

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Is it the beanies and the T shirts that I

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like he's.

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just a constant. Yeah, Ben's got problem. We all

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>know Ben's got his issues.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Ben's got some ups and downs going on.

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>You But apparently Ben is the better in bad That's what.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>She had more of a chemistry with Brad. But that

0:32:54.600 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Ben Affleck was antike uote yes, say it technically excellent.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Just that's that's what a great thing

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to just have out there in the ether.

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's quite a compliment.

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>It is quite a compliment that he's technically excellent. Well,

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>what she did well was she didn't sounds like a

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>gymnast routine. Her dismount was incredible nine point seven.

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of that scene in Friends where Monica

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 2>is explaining to Chandler how to please a woman and

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>she draws a diagram with numbers.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And she's like seven three two.

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Four seven seven seven. I think she didn't throw anybody

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>under the bus, which was good.

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was good about you know, I will say, when.

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 2>You're playing f Mary kill with the father of your

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>children as one of the people, I mean you can't

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>obviously you can't kill him. He's the father of your kids.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Need him around. I mean it's not great. So we

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>knew she I don't know how you don't say you're

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>going to marry again, you know Chris Martin in that situation.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 2>But I will say personally I would, Actually, I'm gonna

0:33:54.360 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 2>go Mary, Brad God, I don't want to. I don't

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>want to f Ben, but I don't want to f

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Chris Martin either. Huh.

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, we'll stop there.

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, Brad, I mean, good looking guys, suave,

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>great career.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite Brad Pitt? Oh?

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Great question?

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it Flman Louise? Is it? River Runs Through It?

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it Benjamin Button?

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's favorite Brad Pitt is The Curious Case Benjamin is it?

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it like an aging child in that movie?

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But at some point through.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 2>That it's nobody's favorite.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, is it? What was the death movie? I can't

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>think of?

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Black?

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Is it Mityo? Black?

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Interview? The Vampire Troy? We could go on. My favorite

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Brad pit is or Oceans The Adult. It's tough because

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 2>I like him with the long hair, but I think

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>he's doing some of his best acting, and he's so

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>charismatic in the Oceans movies. He's always eating in those movies.

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 2>That's his acting thing. He's always it is.

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>He and Cludey. I mean, you can't beat their.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know. Okay, let me give I'm gonna

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 2>give you one more. I'm going to give you out

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Ocean's cast, and it's been Affleck's friend f

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Mary Kill the Ocean's eleven movie Triumphant, George Clooney, Brad

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Pitt and Matt Damon. Mm hmmm.

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Clooney, I'm I'm gonna marry. I'm gonna marry Clooney. Okay,

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>we have the place in Italy. He's just smart, you know,

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>out of an espresso coffee.

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>He's got the espresso money.

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>He'ss is it? Do you find that odd that those

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>guys do the like espresso serious coin.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Well they've been doing it a long time.

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Andy Garcia and Clooney and all those guys doing.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, back in the day, it was that it

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 2>was smart as an actor to do commercials overseas because

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>he turns America. Okay, answer the.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Question and then you know, I'll probably stick with Brad

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Pitt in Bed.

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna kill Matt Day.

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I know he has multi so much too. He's given us,

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Scorn movies Goodwill Hunting?

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think we'd still have it?

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Though?

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't you think we'd have half a good Will Hunting

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>with Ben Affleck because they wrote it together.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe he killed.

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Matt Damon, who that's a tough one to kill somebody.

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You can't kill George Cloney's national trust.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>And to totally change it up in that situation, I'm

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna kill Brad. How dare you with those three? I

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>would marry Matt. I think he's a good family man. Yeah,

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and he's a good husband.

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I could see you making love to colony. That seems like.

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>A I'd probably in your wheelhouse. I mean, he's a

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>very classic, you know, Hollywood icon.

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>He's one of those it guys, those guys that just

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>have it, that it factor when they walk in a room.

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was at the the Globes one year

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>and everyone the cool thing about the Globes, everyone goes

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to the same party, and he walked in and it

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was just as you want your George Clooney. Sure, kind

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of his tucks was just kind of his bowtie was

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of open at that point. He had like a

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>glass of bourbon or whiskey, whatever, can.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>You remember a lot of details about this?

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>And well he came up and he saddled up at

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the bar right next to me. Wow, I was just thinking,

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you could just tell he was the room. Everybody knew

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>he was in the room.

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, we're not even talking about the most important point

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>of this Gwyneth Paltrow story, which is that in this

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 2>article they quote, yeah, like Gwyneth Paltrow spoke about her

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Bounce co star Ben Affleck, and weren't you in the

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 2>movie Bounce?

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I was, they should have said, when Gwyneth Paltrow and

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Ben Affleck co starred in the movie Bounce with Chris Harrison.

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I was in the movie Bounce. This was my big

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood debut.

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Was this before The Bachelor?

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>This is before the Bachelor? So I was already in LA.

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I was working at the Horse Racing Network. I think

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I was doing HGTV Designer's Challenge at the time, and

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I would go on these auditions, typically for reporter get

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>because I did local news in Oklahoma City and just auditioning.

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I would do auditions and I was so green. I

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>knew nothing of the business. So they needed a reporter,

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>CNN reporter, So we went to the C and N building,

0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and if you haven't seen it, spoiler alert bounces about

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a plane crash. And there was this really pivotal emotional

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>scene at the end of the movie, towards the end,

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>when Ben Affleck has this kind of come to Jesus

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>moment and he's watching my news report. What I didn't

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>realize at the time was when it's a Ben Affleck

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and Gwyneth Paltrow movie, if you are possibly in a

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>scene with them, guess who they're going to show you.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Your face isn't even on the screen my.

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, technically it is, but it's in a reflection in

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the painting and the picture behind Ben Fleck. Oh so

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you can. I was a little crestfallen this and by

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the way, I thought I was in the movie. So

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I this is before I told everybody. I told everybody

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>my family, I told everyone I used to work with

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>back in Oklahoma. I have made it big. I'm in

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood and I am I'm a movie star. And when

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I saw when I went to the premiere, and I

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, man, well the premiere. I did go

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to the premiere and Ben and we're there.

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for spoiling the two thousand film bounce. Okay,

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 2>next up, we're going to get into this Heather ray Young. Yeah,

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 2>private jet situation. So Heather ray Young. The headlines are

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>slammed for detailing Sun's first flight on private jet, apparently

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 2>people saying she was tone deaf because she spoke about

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 2>bringing her three month old son on his first flight,

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>talking about how he did a good job and how

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 2>she breastfed him to like help with the flying, you know,

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 2>the pressure on the plane and all that, and I

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 2>guess people were commenting and saying that it was tone

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 2>deaf of her because most moms obviously can't fly private.

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually saw this, which I didn't know much about

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Heather ray Young, but I found this very interesting how

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>up in arms everybody was.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I have interviewed her and Tark before. They're both lovely people,

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and I am coming to her defense on this. I

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 2>was bothered by this because she didn't say, oh, you know,

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 2>such an easy flight like she did. What she said

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 2>was she was just explaining what she did to help

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 2>with the pressure in his little ears and just kind

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 2>of detailing a hack on that, right.

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I agreed that she wasn't.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Saying what an easy travel experience navigating the airport and

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 2>all that. She was literally talking about what it's like

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 2>to have an infant baby in an airplane going through

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the air like.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:25.760
<v Speaker 1>With this kissed me off.

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>It did.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this really kind of pissed me off.

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, number one, I'll.

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Back her up. The breastfeeding to pop the baby's ears

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and to keep the pressure. Been there, done that, and

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you're right, because there's nothing worse than when you take

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>off babies crying. I mean, they lose it. It is a

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>special kind of cry.

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>So you're constantly breastfeeding.

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I am constantly breastfeeding. I am the town wet nurse anyway,

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>So kudos to you on the tip. But when everybody

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.919
<v Speaker 1>got so up in arms, she didn't say like you said.

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't saying how tough it is to fly. She

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't saying anything about that. All she would doing was

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>just trying to share what she does all the time.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>That's her thing, her lifestyle, to share that this was

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>baby's first flight. I don't care that she had nanny's.

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't get by the way, I would do the

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>same thing if I was able to fly private all

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the time and have nanny's with my kids. And help

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and fifty people and a chef and a masseuse. You

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think I would. You would too, you hypocrites. You

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>would too if I had Southwest Airlines over here and

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you have C twenty.

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Four or there's this Oh sure, but nobody's saying, beautiful jet.

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be on that jet.

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, nobody's saying they wouldn't take it. They were What

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 2>people were upset about is they were saying, it's tone

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>uf to like share that and to act like you

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of went through this struggle. But to me, what

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was important was that it wasn't this specific like she

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 2>wasn't specifically saying, oh, he was so great going through

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>the airport and we had such an easy time. She

0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 2>was just talking about a baby in the press, sure

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of an airplane literally tone death. I mean, I don't

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>think you know. I read something from like Kate Blanchitt

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>about her last movie coming out, and she said that

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't think it's possible today. I'm not directly quoting her,

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<v Speaker 2>but to put anything out there without it getting critiqued,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I think today, if you're going to put

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<v Speaker 2>anything out there, I mean I and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>circling back on the wedding dress stuff. Somebody messaged me

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<v Speaker 2>and said, you should realize you're coming from such a

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<v Speaker 2>place of privilege by getting married, and you should show

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<v Speaker 2>some humility and stop talking about the wedding. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I mean, well I didn't. I really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think I was stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>Following me if you don't want to hear about the

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>wedding stuff following, well, I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I really, I mean to be honest, I didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>think I was talking about it that much. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of laughing about it, showing photos of myself

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<v Speaker 2>looking pretty crappy in some of these wedding dresses actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just just sort of sharing. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>such a it's such a double edged sword social media.

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<v Speaker 2>You can really connect with people, but you have to

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<v Speaker 2>know you're going to get some.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're right, there's nothing you're to get to put

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<v Speaker 1>out there in the world that isn't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>critiqued and taken down and shut down. So I got

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>her back. By the way, Heather and Taric both going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us on the show coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, Yeah, okay, did not know we'd booked that.

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<v Speaker 1>We did, ye yeah, so we'll talk about this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to her about this, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm because I'm curious if she felt defensive about it,

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<v Speaker 1>if she's like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry, or she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like she kind of I think she lets it

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<v Speaker 2>roll off her back. But what I'm interested in is

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<v Speaker 2>how much she's sharing of this stuff, Like, are there

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<v Speaker 2>things that you that you don't share because you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this is you know, you just don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it, or do you kind of keep sharing

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<v Speaker 2>everything and just accept the criticism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well good for you. And by the way, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can fly private, do it as someone who just

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>left the airport. Hey, I wish I had had the

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<v Speaker 1>private plane. I will take it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, we figured out a lot of wedding stuff

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<v Speaker 2>here today.

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<v Speaker 1>We did. I did. I learned a lot. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>guys for letting me have this podcast so I can

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<v Speaker 1>find out what's going on with my wedding and with

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<v Speaker 1>my fiance, who I love and adore.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we're not doing invitations, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is there's another note. Okay, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>checking these things off as we go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Estrala just said not to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just excited to marry you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, I'm just a boy standing in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>girl ready to marry her. That's a shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>our writers. Nodding Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I actually one of the writers had that on

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<v Speaker 2>the sign. She said, I'm just a girl standing in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a studio asking them to pay her. There

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<v Speaker 2>you go, There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best written films of all time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the note we'll leave you on. Thanks everybody, Thank you

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