WEBVTT - Get Informed

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<v Speaker 1>That's how that's what's up.

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<v Speaker 2>Family. Is your girl, Tamika D. Mallory, and it's your boy,

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<v Speaker 2>my son and general and we are your host of

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<v Speaker 2>street politicians, the players, streets and politics. Me what's up

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<v Speaker 2>my story?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'm blessed the Holy Favorite on this beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, over here, I'm alive, blood flowing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling good, are you? I'm good?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's been a real whirlwind for It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a whirlwind for several years. Honestly, Like I can't really

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<v Speaker 2>point to a time when I was like not feeling

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure of like life in years. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think about it, you know, because I went

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<v Speaker 2>from as you know, working for the National Action Net

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen years to build my own business to going into

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<v Speaker 2>the Women's March, and before that it was Justice League

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<v Speaker 2>and gathering for justice, and then of course the Women's March,

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<v Speaker 2>and after the Women's March until freedom and in all

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff in between that happened. So I just feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm blessed also, But it just seems like

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<v Speaker 2>we have these big peaks and of course some low valley,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, it's good to be alive for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and to you know, feel blessed, and I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>depressed or anything. So I thank God for that. This

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<v Speaker 2>has been a good week when I haven't been feeling depression.

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<v Speaker 2>Well actually it's just the middle of the week, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>two or three days blessed you not feel depression?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's you know what it is. I always have

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation with people when people talk about depression on

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't really know if I ever had pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>right because I don't I don't think I know how identify.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've been through then without feel stressed. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been confused and all I've been through.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if I would ever say that

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<v Speaker 1>I've experienced what depression is, you know, and there'd be

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<v Speaker 1>times like you know, during this week just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this week has been kind of a lot. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I say I'm blessed because I've seen so

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<v Speaker 1>much death this week and you know, and and just

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<v Speaker 1>been in taking a lot of that. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>intake a lot. I think like I'm more of an impath,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I found myself randomly being tough for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>found myself randomly in the house is in teared, like

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<v Speaker 1>seeing shit that just you know, disturbs my peace, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And but I don't know if I've ever experienced depression.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, I don't. I am not

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<v Speaker 1>really the person who who deals with mental health in

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity that you know it's been projected lately. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a person who has a therapists and other things,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I talked to one or two

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<v Speaker 1>people that have talked to that are feel comfortable talking

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<v Speaker 1>about certain things. But for the most part, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just been dealing with life on life turn taking

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<v Speaker 1>bumps and buz cry, get up, move, wipe your knee,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just do live like that way. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I hear people sneaking depression, and I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've ever been depressed. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I've felt pained. I know I felt stressed. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I felt trauma. I know I'm dealing with things that

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<v Speaker 1>having trauma for me in my life, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>formally incarcerated, going through that process, losing you like walking

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<v Speaker 1>into your house and your father's dead on the couch

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<v Speaker 1>at twelve with drug overdose, like you know, experiencing your

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<v Speaker 1>mother on drugs and just having to go through that

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<v Speaker 1>and then going to jail. Lif I know, I'm dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with trauma, and I don't know how I deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's made me depressed. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't really sneak to that. I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a type of the conversation the other day, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually who was I speaking to talking about this?

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about who was I come, stay sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what who it was, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about sports, right, And I used to

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<v Speaker 1>play basketball all through like junior high school, all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through high school, like that was my thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm and I never really thought about this, but

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<v Speaker 1>my mother knowing my father, ever came to any basketball

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<v Speaker 1>game I ever played in my life. Never was there

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<v Speaker 1>one time that they ever came to see me play

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<v Speaker 1>basketball at a tournament anything. I never seen them on

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<v Speaker 1>the side. It just never happened, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>and I say to my I say that and say

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<v Speaker 1>that I make sure, and I don't know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it just any time that I can,

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<v Speaker 1>like I do everything possible to make sure I met

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<v Speaker 1>all of my sons they play soccer game that I

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<v Speaker 1>made sure my son was playing basketball, that I was

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<v Speaker 1>at every one in his basketball games. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was subconsciously I did it because I understood,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I never had it for me, But this

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I ever actually recognized that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was just the other day. That's a forty push,

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<v Speaker 1>you old man say to itself, Yop, you never had that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we deal with trial love and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just say that mistake. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever had depression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't know how to tell anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else how to identify it, because obviously I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>medical person doctor, not medically trained, and so if you

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<v Speaker 2>have never experienced it, God blessed, like that's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>thing to be able to claim that. But I could

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that from my perspective, depression has been crippling

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<v Speaker 2>to me more than once throughout my life, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially starting out probably mainly when I had my son

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<v Speaker 2>at a very very young age. That was a really

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult time because I just I'm talking about even

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<v Speaker 2>before his father died, just in trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what to do with this new life that I had,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then when his father and I separated,

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<v Speaker 2>which was before he died, it just was so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what the first time in my life when

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I was going through something that made me

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<v Speaker 2>feel not so much. I wasn't crying or any of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I felt I felt weird, very weird, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know exactly how to explain it. As time has

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<v Speaker 2>gone on, though, I've learned through therapy and just through conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>through listening, the more that mental health becomes a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the daily discords. I learned that depression is something

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<v Speaker 2>It goes up and down, It comes in different shapes,

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<v Speaker 2>and for some people get it for you know, various reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And I certainly certainly have experienced it in some real,

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<v Speaker 2>real rough times and some real, real real difference kuw

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<v Speaker 2>waves and it. You know, I've never wanted I've never

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to die by suicide, but I will say that

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<v Speaker 2>I have at least thought to myself, maybe once I

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<v Speaker 2>take these pills or whatever, I won't wake up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>doing things like you're taking the pill with the alcoholic beverage,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing like I'm drinking alcohol to take down the pill

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<v Speaker 2>instead of the water. And I didn't think I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, you know, I didn't ever think, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do this to die. But I certainly have

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<v Speaker 2>thought maybe today I just won't wake up with to

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<v Speaker 2>have to continue to deal with all this craziness. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad. I'm grateful to God for my experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you, because now that I've gone through a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different things, I'm beginning to realize what really like,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand what matters today more than ever before. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, just where I am with that. But so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of a lot of things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talked about seeing death, you know, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like a chill up my spine because the last week

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<v Speaker 2>I have been extremely focused on two projects that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been working on, and I had to get through these

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<v Speaker 2>things and not be distracted and not have my.

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<v Speaker 1>Words or my.

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<v Speaker 2>Words, my position, my whatever be a distraction for positive

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<v Speaker 2>things that I was doing for black women, that I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing for our community, and just also doing for

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<v Speaker 2>myself and my friends. I've been working on these projects

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<v Speaker 2>for a minute and it's particularly one, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>to be disciplined enough to really step back from the

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<v Speaker 2>discourse of what's happening in the media, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>in the media, but in the world, like real life stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and remember that even though yes, these things are important,

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<v Speaker 2>so are the other things that I'm working on. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was no void of voices people out there speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to specifically the devastating crisis that it's happening in Israel Palestine.

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<v Speaker 2>And I felt my heart was heavy because I wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm so used to being out there and

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<v Speaker 2>being in the conversation around important issues, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. But I was so I was, I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I was. My heart was warm that I'm trying. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't even say content, but I certainly felt some

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<v Speaker 2>level of stylish, if you will. And I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's the right word, but you get my

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<v Speaker 2>point by watching all of you, including of course Linda

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<v Speaker 2>of including Mark lemont Hill, Angela I mean, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>a man, the Seals, Uh, Sean King, and the list

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<v Speaker 2>goes on. Jamal Briant, Freddie Haynes. You know, as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you already really speak truth to power, Uh and get

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<v Speaker 2>out there and make sure that the story is being

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<v Speaker 2>told in a balanced way. I've watched the news and

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<v Speaker 2>I see I see several things at once. I see

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<v Speaker 2>one where there is certainly some truth, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>there is, there is there is a very real and

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<v Speaker 2>very raw attempt to honor is really lives that were

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<v Speaker 2>lost and the hostages who are held or being held

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and that's happening, and you see it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also see an imbalance and information and I see

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<v Speaker 2>lies flat out lies being told at times depending on

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<v Speaker 2>which network, and all of them have selective storytelling and

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<v Speaker 2>the way in which they speak. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier that I'm so glad that I've been through

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I have gone through because throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>Women's March and other situations and issues that have come

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<v Speaker 2>up in my life which were truly controversial where the

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<v Speaker 2>media was involved, I got to see how they play

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<v Speaker 2>games with words. I got to see how they will

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<v Speaker 2>present some information and they'll present some facts and it

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<v Speaker 2>will be embedded. It's even in the context and the direction,

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the imagery. It's in so many things that

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<v Speaker 2>they intentionally misinformed people or try to force people to

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<v Speaker 2>only see one way, and in this particular moment, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it is better because we have forced you all. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously people already know where I stand right

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<v Speaker 2>and so, but you all, and the marchers, the protesters,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are rising up, the Jews that are

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<v Speaker 2>rising up around the world, to say, not in my

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<v Speaker 2>name will you slaughter babies? Will you slaughter babies? Continuously

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want our babies slaughter, which is the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing to say, because it is heart wrenching to know

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<v Speaker 2>that people, families, men, women and children died on October

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<v Speaker 2>seventh in the attack against them.

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<v Speaker 1>It is all.

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<v Speaker 2>It is horrible. I am not and I said this

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<v Speaker 2>before and I'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I refuse.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are looking for me as an ally to

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<v Speaker 2>be someone who either celebrates and or lacks the empathy

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<v Speaker 2>or the ability to acknowledge all death, all deaths, all murder,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, then you got the wrong person. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that because I can go home to

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<v Speaker 2>my Savior knowing that I'm standing in the right in

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<v Speaker 2>my right mind and in the right shoes. When I

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<v Speaker 2>can look around and say I don't want you to die,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want you to die, and we do

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<v Speaker 2>that every day because even in the gun violence prevention

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<v Speaker 2>work that we do, we look at the person who's

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<v Speaker 2>the shooter and the person on the other end of

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<v Speaker 2>the gun as being equally important, because both sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the gun have a story. And I think that, to

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<v Speaker 2>me is what informs our passion and our defiance and

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<v Speaker 2>our calling for there to be an absolute cease fire

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<v Speaker 2>and an end not just the ceasefire, but an end

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<v Speaker 2>to the brutality that it's happening in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course, which we've been calling for even before

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<v Speaker 2>October seventh, is the end to the occupation of the

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian people, which I believe will ultimately keep Israeli citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's the citizens of Israel as well as Palestinians safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the focus on Hamas and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>take them out by bombing and shooting people is the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong Killing people, killing babies and allowing those images to

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<v Speaker 2>be out there, I think it is the wrong strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that I don't know good and damn

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<v Speaker 2>well that if there is an attack against you, they're

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<v Speaker 2>will be a response that violence begets violence. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not ignorant to that, but I do understand that a

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<v Speaker 2>cycle must be broken, and in order for the cycle

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<v Speaker 2>to be broken, because we could make an excuse for

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<v Speaker 2>one side, this side, this side, that side, back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>We can keep doing this for forever until more and

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<v Speaker 2>more people and more and more bloodshed, or we could

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the root of the problem and deal

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<v Speaker 2>with it so that there will be a really so

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<v Speaker 2>that the citizens, the people themselves, will have a will

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<v Speaker 2>have a lack of interest, a lack of need, a

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<v Speaker 2>lack of vulnerability for any type of terrorism, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be from the IDF or harmon, it won't need any

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<v Speaker 2>of it. People will understand, and it will people will

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<v Speaker 2>feel free to move about and feel true security in

0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.680
<v Speaker 2>their birth place, in there on their land. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's just it. So any news outlet that it's not

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to that, that's not talking about it straightforward as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I'm concerned. I quote Linda Sarsaw, our sister,

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<v Speaker 2>our Palestinian sister from Brooklyn, our partner. I quote her,

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<v Speaker 2>and I stand one hundred percent by that. If you

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell the truth about what's going on in this

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<v Speaker 2>moment and support an ending to the occupation of Palestinian people.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you cannot possibly care about Jews and the people

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel or anybody else, because the only way I

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<v Speaker 2>see to go forward is to end this occupation and

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that people feel safe and free to

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<v Speaker 2>exist all over the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole mold compass was shifted through this, just watching,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the death of babys to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just see it, literally see it bathing die under rubble,

0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:05.200
<v Speaker 1>just father's holding their children, mother's holding their children, fathers.

0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.680
<v Speaker 1>My father had the remains of his children's in bag.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was rubble. They was digging babies out

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<v Speaker 1>of rubble like these were this or really happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I don't know what type of

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<v Speaker 1>human being, right, And because I consider myself a warrior, right,

0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I consider myself a warrior, and I'm willing to die

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<v Speaker 1>for what I believe in. I'm staying for my family

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<v Speaker 1>this and that I personally couldn't be involved with another

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<v Speaker 1>human being and savagely murdered their kids and their thing

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<v Speaker 1>and feel some type of some type of success or

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have a complished my moral compass would

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with me? As a warrior, and somebody I

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<v Speaker 1>believe I'm a warrior. I don't think any real warriors

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<v Speaker 1>soldier for willing to die for its country as people's life,

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<v Speaker 1>would look at a baby dying and feel like he accomplished.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you don't have a level of empathy or

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<v Speaker 1>regard for that type of life, or just understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not okay to you, then there's something that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do. Right. The fact that people are angry

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<v Speaker 1>with people who have the humanitarian mold combers to look

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<v Speaker 1>at himan beings, mainly babies and women dying. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote war that is supposed to be had

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<v Speaker 1>with soldiers, right, so when nobody said and there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who were able to justify it and feel as

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<v Speaker 1>if it's really like an eye for either and for

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<v Speaker 1>me it's that I don't want to see none of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyone who would kill innocent people and kill children

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong. It's horrible, it's terrific, and I do not

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<v Speaker 1>stand by it, and I understand anyone who will speak

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<v Speaker 1>against it. But if you can see that I have

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<v Speaker 1>and on one side and and vehemently and adamantly speak

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<v Speaker 1>up against it, and then you can see it happen

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side and remain silent. To me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just wrong. It means that you're you're you're you're okay

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.040
<v Speaker 1>with certain people being murdered and certain children being murdered.

0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.720
<v Speaker 1>You're just not okay with others, or you're too weak

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 1>or scared to say that you're not okay with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's to me, it's just not it's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not humane, you know. And it really pains me to

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<v Speaker 1>watch black leaders and black people in positions of power

0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.639
<v Speaker 1>who can take the position to say that I stand

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<v Speaker 1>with Israel and if you should, you should stand against

0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.920
<v Speaker 1>what moster is done. You should, you should absolutely stand against.

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.200
<v Speaker 1>But if you can't use that same breath to say,

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening to the Palestinians in all, and I

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<v Speaker 1>stand for them to be free, then I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>where your moral compasses. I can't, of good nature be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see things they've been done every day for

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<v Speaker 1>the last eighteen days, just dying every day and not

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<v Speaker 1>say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's here's all, sorry, oh dare a. But here's

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.360
<v Speaker 2>here's one point that I keep hearing people say, right,

0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.840
<v Speaker 2>they keep saying and not my friends who are Jewish.

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I was having a conversation with one of my very

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 2>very close Jewish friends who said, they said, it was

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<v Speaker 2>so soon, you know, where people expected Jews and the

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<v Speaker 2>world to just immediately turn their attention to the Palestinian

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:46.479
<v Speaker 2>people and begin, you know, automatically fighting for other rights

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and protecting other individuals. And she said, it was so soon,

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.959
<v Speaker 2>and it just felt so raw, and it's like they

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't have time to grieve properly, and they wanted the

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 2>world to grieve with them. And I sat with that.

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.240
<v Speaker 2>It hit me so hard at length because that I

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<v Speaker 2>feel that, I feel like when you know, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>real thing that we didn't get to greed. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it took me a few days or maybe overnight to

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<v Speaker 2>respond to her, and then I said, here's the thing.

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Black folks have been doing that bad bum Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>understand what you're saying, because we have to constantly.

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Harmed.

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 2>We're harmed and tell people don't bomb the buildings, so

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 2>you the families be out there. How many times li

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 2>you'll talk about it? How many times have we been

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 2>at a George Boord or somebody is shot to death,

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 2>they killed, the blood is still on the streets. The

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 2>people are angry, and as soon as folks get ready

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 2>to go tear up the buildings and the preset the

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<v Speaker 2>next day or the night of we have no choice.

0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:03.119
<v Speaker 2>The lawyers, the family members, saw ask the people, the organizes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just but that's that's just property though, right, because

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 1>it ain't it ain't like it's it's it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>we we have to you know that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the cartage of it. And did we have

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<v Speaker 1>to just tell people not to deal with We gotta

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>be so we gotta watch blood be spilled. And then

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 1>we have to protect property. We told about protecting light, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the next level. We we can't even say, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck that that building. Can't you know what they done?

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<v Speaker 1>Kill this man in that building, don't deserve to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the more fucking We don't even have that right.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even have that. So when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>them like we would, we would never even say take

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>innocent people clouds, Okay, they shot somebody, so you know what,

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:45.399
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go bomb the whole building in Milwaukee because

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the police shot somebody in the WORL. That wouldn't even

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.920
<v Speaker 1>make sense. That that's not something that I can fathom

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>in my mind right if my if this is just

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>me and and because I don't deal with hate and vengeance,

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't deal with that. I don't even know what

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that looks like. If you took of a life of

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>my take, if somebody shot and killed one of my

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>family members, I couldnot sit there and be happy to

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>see a baby get killed because they shot one of

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>my things. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't be silent.

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I like, I don't know. I don't know what that is.

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.199
<v Speaker 1>And that's other people's things. I'm just saying there are

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>people who feel that way and some people that say

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>fuck that, you're killed as some period. I don't have

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that that type of moral compass. That's not who I am.

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's what any warrior who warriors is.

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I can understand the medias of ben who sitting here,

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you lost your your your loved one, maybe

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you maybe you do. Look, maybe there is a level

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of vengeance, But I don't see how that vengeance, you know,

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>equates to babies a woman and I just don't see

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.640
<v Speaker 1>how that vengeance equates it. I don't I personally don't

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 1>see that, and I can't. There's nothing that nobody could

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>tell me that makes me feel like I should be

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>quiet or I should understan there why people feel like

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the depth of one side is it's horrific, but the

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>death of the other one is something to be solid

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and well, I just don't understand it, and I never will.

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 2>A nonoether of it is just that none of it

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 2>is None of it is right, None of it is right,

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>None of it is right. All the killing is bad.

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 2>All the killing is terrible. All the killing is horrible.

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 2>And you must acknowledge that even before October seventh, Palestinians

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 2>were dying. We know we were there, we saw what happened,

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 2>so we must we must say knowledge brutality before October seventh.

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 2>So how do you in the cycle? That's the question.

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 2>It's the only question, you know. President Obama wrote a

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 2>letter and you and I and others spent some time

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>really reading yesterday, and there's still some stuff in it

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 2>that I still consider parts of the letter to be propaganda.

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I think to not be ten toes down for a

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 2>ceasefire is trash, period. I don't care who you are,

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 2>President Obama, the Queen Mother whoever, President Biden, you name

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the people, just put them out on anybody you bring

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 2>me anybody. I don't care who it is. My mama,

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 2>my mama and daddy, my granddaughter who I love everything,

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I give my life right now if she said, well,

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in the cease draw so to me,

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 2>his whole letter unfortunately misses the mark, because we must

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>be calling to in what is happening there and to

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 2>stop at least at least for humanitarian aid. But beyond

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>that this point, a ceasepy is a small thing. There's

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 2>much more that needs to be done. So I have

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to say that. But I also know and understand that

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>one he was the president of the United States of America,

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 2>and he ain't gonna go but so far against the

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 2>position of the new president who he supports, right, and

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>also the country and the politics and the things we

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>know and don't know, the things that are seen and unseen. Right,

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna go much further than that. And I

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>am I am, I am politically astute enough to understand

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that half of it is said, the other half isn't said,

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 2>and then there's still some shit that's left out or

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 2>that we don't. We're not We're not pretty too. I

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 2>understand how the talks happened. I understand the games that's played.

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I understand all of it. So as I read the letter,

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I read it knowing that I wasn't gonna get a radical.

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, he wasn't gonna be Malcolm X. I

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.719
<v Speaker 2>know that, but I am looking for him to include

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 2>important things. He said some things that were really important,

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and I wish I had it so I could read

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>it at this moment, but I don't want to. I

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>want people to go because that's one of the things

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>we about to talk about next. It's people don't read

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 2>enough from start to finish to understand and then check

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the source and do it and get another source for information. Right,

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 2>But he talks about how long this conflict, and some

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>people don't like the use of the term conflict. So

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 2>for those who don't like that term, we're not gonna

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>be perfect. And nobody should be looking for, especially people

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 2>who are not either from Israel or Palestine, or Israeli

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>or Palestinian, to say it exactly perfect every single word.

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 2>That's just not realistic. So I understand some people say,

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>will stop saying conflict. Well, It is a conflict to

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>me when people, all kinds of people are dying. But

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I understand, you know, of course, the occupation and all

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>of those things. And he talks about the history of

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>how it happened and how we got to this place.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>He talks about the fact that the huge, the the

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 2>the the that Israel needs to follow the guidelines of

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the United Nations and all the other you know, powers

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that be that set the tone for what is a

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>humanitarian effort and what is violating law like war crimes.

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>He talks about that and says that they need to

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>be careful not to turn global the global world or

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>global society against them, and they need to be you know,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 2>careful about uh, you know, what they do and how

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>they go about protecting themselves in this situation. Then he

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 2>talks about the settlements, right, and he talks about how

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>the settlements are and set learn which are people who

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>have gone to Israel and the Jews who have shown

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>up in Israel and in Palestine and decided this is

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>my land. And the government backs them, taking people's land,

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 2>throwing them out their homes. He talks about that, and

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>he said the settlers have gone unaddressed. They have been.

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>The displacement is a problem, and that and and and

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and I thought that was powerful talking about using the

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>word the terminology displacement, you know, And and I said

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to myself, it's not that people don't know the truth,

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it's that they're unwilling to say it.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>There is this false narrative and people have to deal

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>with it, right And there's the false narrative that when

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you speak and you have a different opinion about a

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>situation like this, you know that somehow this word anti

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>semitic is for you. And what it does is it

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>scares people from having a conversation and makes people say,

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be labeled. That you can have

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a disagreement. And that's one of the things that Obama

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>said in his speech that was really really touched me.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>In a letter that he said, he said, it is

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>possible for people of goodwill to champion Palestinian rights and

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the poll certain Israeli government policies in the West Bank

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and guys are without being anti semitic. Perhaps most of all,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>it means we should choose not to always assume the

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>worst in those who we disagree. In the age of

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>constant Ranker troubling in misinformation on social media at a

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>time when so many politicians and intention seekers see an

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>advantage in shedding heat rather than light. It may be

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>unrealistic to expect respectful dialogue on any issue, and that

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what that's what it comes down to. There's so

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>many people who have you watched people just have disagreements

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.479
<v Speaker 1>and you just say, okay, they disagree. It doesn't mean

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that our anti youth. I can be anti oppression, right.

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I can think that what the Israeli government is doing

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>in guys that is oppression. And I can say that

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't mean that I'm anti Semitic. It doesn't

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>mean that I hate Jews or I don't like Jews.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>It can mean that I disagree with something and it's

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's actually horrible that we have to do that,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that that people have to be quiet or don't want

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to say it because they don't want to be laid

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>with something that they're not right. We have love for

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>we have love for Jews. We on the front line

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>with Jews all the time. In this movie, this movement

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>is comprised with mainly Palestinian Jews, Blacks. It's all of us.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>We fighting against oppression people who are pressed. So when people,

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>when people have to fear the fact that they say

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>something that disagrees with somebody, they can be label something.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just not fair and it's just not fair what

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it does. It doesn't lean space for real dialogue, for

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>honest dialogue, for people to honestly express how they might

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>about something. Whether you disagree or not. We can disagree

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on something, and I don't think that you anti black

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>because you don't agree with what I am. I don't

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>think that you're a racist person because you don't agree

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>on my position with something. You know, And it's just

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>not I just don't understand how you know.

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess you know, people do label, but people do

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 2>label folks who question, you know, police brutality or whatever.

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>People do label white folks who have questions or pushback

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever as being anti black, And I think that

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 2>is something that we need to examine, right because sometimes

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>they are and sometimes people are straight up anti Semitic,

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and there is anti Symthitism. It exists, and it has

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>existed and people have been harmed as a result of it.

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody can sing here and say different

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>that that's not the point of the conversation.

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>That's never bring a coil of the car conversation. The

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>point is that every every disagreement about a political stance

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that that has to do with this situation is not antisemitic,

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and it shouldn't be labeled that. You know. It's it's

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>just like somebody was saying the other day. So up

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to all this point, the same people that you thought

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>were the best leaders in the world, that followed the

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>believe in everything that you've been with, that been hand

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>in hand with the Jewish community, to be fighting against

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>all these things now that they believe, like, you know what,

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think maybe should be dying in God them right.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that that doesn't make sense. I think that

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, there should be a ceasefire. I think the

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>palace city is you know what, you'd be free. I

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think they should live in concentration. Came the open

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>air prisoners. I don't think anybody should live because you

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>have that position. That doesn't that doesn't take back all

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of the ship that you've been doing in community with

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the Jewish community for years. So it's it's it's this

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>unfair that some people do it, like just like it'll

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>be unfair with some people who if a person said, well,

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I think you know this police forwards, that was right.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>In this situation, I don't agree with the way this

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>person and you might not agree, but it doesn't mean

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that person is anti black. It doesn't mean that person

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is racist. I've had we've had a conversation and dialogue

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>with people who don't agree with us on police's If

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>black people don't agree with us all or it doesn't

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>mean you anti black. It means that we have a

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>different position in this situation. It means that we don't agree,

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and we might not never agree on a subject, and

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>we can still love each other and I can still

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>think you a dope person. I can still want you

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to live and fight for your rights every day, but

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I cannot agree with you on a particular issue that

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>has to do with Israel and Ganda.

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>That's real, what Israel and power sn I just want

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 2>to make sure because one thing that is very very

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 2>very very very important is that we stop allowing the

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>media to make this Gaza because it is not just Gaza,

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the Palestinian people all over the region and even

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 2>in the West Bink. We are seeing protests we're seeing

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>people being brutalized, we're seeing people being arrested. We're seeing

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the internet and the stories the news sources controlled that

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the people can even watch and listen to because they

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want ol Jazeera and others that are telling a

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>balanced story about the situation to exist in that area.

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 2>So it's important because people are still even in this moment,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 2>with all that has happened, they're still dealing with a

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>level of oppression, and therefore we have to make sure

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 2>we call it out. And I, you know, I think

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 2>we can end this just again reviving people that if

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you put a dog in a cage for a certain

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>amount of time and you don't feed it, you treat

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>it a certain way, you beat it, you brutalize it.

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 2>When you open that cage or if that dog is

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 2>able to get out of there, they are going to

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>attack whatever is first and foremost, and when they attack it,

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>it is not going to be pretty. That's what we

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>learned about pit bulls. Don't play with them, don't be

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 2>beating them up or making them, you know, or or

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 2>confining them, mistreating them, because when you do that, you

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>turn them into animals, You turn them into something that

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't. I mean what they already animals, but you

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, you turn them into something that

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>you're not prepared to deal with, that they get into

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 2>a situation where they are able to you know, retaliate

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>or reactor or initiate or whatever, you know, since you

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>want to put it in. And so the best thing

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>to do is to treat all people and all and

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>all things that have life, that have a heart, that

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>is a breathing, living organism, to treat it with respect,

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>because the more you respect it, then you have the

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 2>right to demand respect from it. Doesn't mean that terrorism

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 2>won't always exist, because we know that, you know, people

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 2>do bad things to folks and they've done nothing, nothing

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>at all. You know that that happened. And of course,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>even in this situation on October seventh, there were people

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>who were killed who some of them were actually defenders

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 2>of the Palestinian people. They were folks who at least

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 2>this is what I've been told by watching news interviews

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>that listening to some things online, that there were people

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 2>who were very liberal, that they were out there and

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 2>they believed in Palestinian rights right. And so there's casualties

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>all the time. When there's war. But you got to

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 2>get to the rule of the war so you can

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>end that. You can't just think that because you've taken

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 2>out people that you're not actually just developing more of

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>the same. They might change the name from Hamas to

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Tou Tou. You don't know what the new and improved

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 2>version will be, but promised but best and believed that

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 2>what will not change is that the images that will

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 2>be in the next generation mind will be that of

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 2>a time when blood bodies, piece bits of bodies in bags, mothers, babies, fathers, families,

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 2>blown up their community level. There is no way that

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 2>that brings about the peace you claimed you want. It's

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>no way. It is no way. And do I understand

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 2>that wars war, absolutely, but they What I know is

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>that you have a military that goes out into a

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>place where there is other military And maybe this is

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>just on the movies, but in the movies, what I

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>see is there are military people that's out there in

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 2>the middle of other military space or whatever you wan

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>on the lay in or whatever they're fighting for, and

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>they shoot and kill one another people who are signed

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 2>up to be there. So nobody should be going and

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>taking some innocent life. Nobody should be doing that and

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 2>in order for us to stop it. I don't think

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 2>it's that difficult of an answer. I think if you

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>are a person who truly wants peace, it's not that difficult.

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 2>But if you are someone who already who already committed

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>war crimes, and who wants land, and who wants power,

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 2>unconditional and unending power, then you will use anything as

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to continue the plan you already had. And

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna see him latelight, that's not the situation.

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 2>How does net and y'allhoo become a hero?

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Who are we serious?

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Always curious? Janni was great during nine to eleven, and

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>guess what, he's still a rasist. He was a racist

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 2>then and he's still erasist. And it didn't change my parents'

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 2>opinion of him. Even Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 2>York I, was getting in so much trouble online because

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 2>during the pandemic he was up there on TV and

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>they all manned. The people love Andrew Cuomo, Baybay. They

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>thought he was the best thing walking. They were so

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 2>and I was the only one dropping up there. Let

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 2>me tell you the truth about who Andrew Cuomo. Is

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>him doing this good thing during the pandemic, is in

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the way that he speaks and how he's charismatically mesmerizing you.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Has nothing to do with the havoc that has been

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>reaped over our communities because of his policies, because he

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 2>has played games and been able to divide the Democrats

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>or the Democrats don't have power, so he can allow

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:51.720
<v Speaker 2>the freaking Republicans to impose their will on a people

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 2>that have voted overwhelmingly for different policies for in a

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 2>different direction. Okay, I know who Andrew Cuomo is, and

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't stop telling the truth about him just because,

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>oh now, all of a sudden, he's the dear sweetheart

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 2>of the nation. So you know, that's that's my thing

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 2>about it. And there's more to be seen. I think

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 2>we ought to be out in the streets even more,

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm ready to go.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So.

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Also in the news, Revolt TV has announced that Baltimore

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 2>parents are outraged as no high school student passes the

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>math proficiency test. No high school student in the whole

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 2>city of Baltimore past the math proficiency test. Now there's

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things with that. I mean, there have

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.240
<v Speaker 2>been a lot of studies that talk about those proficient

0:41:54.440 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 2>proficiency exams and how they are are not in the

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 2>best interests of all children. Her racist has been used,

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know enough for me to add my

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 2>lend my voice to that, So I would just say

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 2>that there has been absolutely studies and talks about those

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 2>proficiency exams and why they are not in the best

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>interests of our you know, of young of young black people,

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, especially when you are teaching to test coming

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>off of a pandemic.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>However, though.

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>We still I'm hearing from educators, especially young black boys,

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 2>have not fully returned to school since the pandemic. We

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>know that many of these students lost two now almost

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>three years of the proper foundation in terms of their

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>edgy cation, and so it is not difficult for me

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to believe these results. But it can't be that everybody

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>failed the test, except that the system is completely broken,

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 2>completely broken, because even the kid who who is not studying,

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 2>some of them are brilliant enough to be able to

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 2>take tests and past. So if everybody failed, the system

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 2>is so broken that it's actually very scary because it

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 2>means if we can't handle this, this thing he if

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 2>none of our students can handle it, where we're going

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 2>as a people is a real sad sad sad sad

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 2>sad sad.

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Please, no, it really is. You know when I when

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I heard that story, I'm not surprised. You know, I'm

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>really just not surprised because not only is the system,

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, just failing our kids in general. And I

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>speak about this all the time. You know, a lot

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of curriculums in schools that I there, especially like young boys,

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.919
<v Speaker 1>young men, and we have the lowest Black Black male

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>have the lowest graduation in high school. Right, we have

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the highest drop out rate and and and when you

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>think about it, it's it's for me. I put myself

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>in the position of being a young black male in

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>school and I was actually intelligent, right, but there was

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>there was very little that kept me engaged. Right, There

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>was very little in the curriculum and the style of

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 1>teaching and everything that kept me engaged. I didn't really

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>want to be there. I did it because you know,

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanted I wanted to be able to say that

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I could pass the test. I wanted my mother to

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>be proud. I wanted those days have it. So you know,

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I pushed myself to do it, but it wasn't like

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the classes were engaged me. That kept me engaatey. You know,

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I speak about this all the time. I remember my son,

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>who was nine or ten as old at the time,

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to start crying when I was taking them to school,

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was like, I don't want to go to

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>school because you know, it pretty much hinders my creativity.

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I sold to be learning. I learned off life.

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>When I'm outside, it's find of learning. I learned things

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and there you just sit there and you take tests

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and they just want you to pass the tests, and

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not it doesn't really work for me. And he

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>was crying, and I thought about this shit. I'm like,

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>damn because I remember feeling that way, you know. And

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>so when we look at the structure and the system

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that we set up, especially for our children, they're not

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>set up for us to be too excel. You know.

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 1>There are some of us who are some of us

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>are able to fit within the system. Some of us

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, were trained within you know, our households and

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the way that we were brought up that they gave

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>us this certain level of you know, able to ability

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to adapt to this destructure, it's too and then some

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>of us didn't most of us, but for the most part,

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>especially in our communities at risk. When you talk about Baltimore,

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know the demographic. You know most of

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>them are living in.

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Poverty, strict and communities and situations like that. You know

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 3>what they're dealing with every day, and you know that

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 3>the current curriculum instructure it doesn't engage them.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>You know. So if we, if we, if we, if

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>we want to be intentional about giving our kids the

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 1>best opportunities to excel, you know, and and and be

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>able to win, we have to we have to say ourselves, yo,

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 1>we got to create the structure that that fits us.

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, every culture, when you look at cultural when

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you look at school system throughout the world, they are

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>culturally competent, right and and that's why their kids are

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>able to accel. Like even if there was once like

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I think last year, they would talk about how in

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>New York that the Jewish schools they weren't they weren't

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>given they weren't making their kids take these to them, right,

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 1>they were saying that they weren't even giving it to

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>them because they didn't like commit We're not giving our

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>kids because this shit, First of all, it must have

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>not been culturally competent to them. They didn't feel like

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it was relevant to their level of intelligence and the

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>ship that they needed to do in their community to

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>be successful. You know. So if we're not intentional about

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>having that same level of cultural competence in our community,

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>in our school to make our kids feel like they

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>have they enjoying learning, that they have an opportunity like

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we're not. We're not creating systems that say, hey, this

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.359
<v Speaker 1>is the best way that black and brown people learned

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>inside of school. This is the best way for us

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to get the best, you know, the highest level out

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>of that. And if we're not doing that, we're gonna

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>keep having these conversations. We just gonna keep having them.

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I tell them you. I remember I was in seventh grade.

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 4>And my teacher you know, I was in eighth grade actually,

0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 4>and we was having standdized tests and we we was

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.280
<v Speaker 4>one of the smartest classes inside the school.

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh, one of the smartest classes in the school. And

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>we had a teacher and she looked at when she

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>gave the tests of she was looking through it and

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>she realized that none of the ship that we was

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>learning was in this test. And what she did was

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the lady, I'll never forget that she went inside the room,

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>pulled the curtain down, and started giving us the answers,

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>literally started giving and writing the answers on the board

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and the race and looking making sure none of the

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>people because she realized that we weren't prepared, that whatever

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>they was teaching us didn't prepare us for these tests

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 1>that they was giving us. And I was even though

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I felt like most of the edswer she gave me

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.919
<v Speaker 1>I had anyway, but there was a lot of people

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>in the class that was lost, like what the fuck

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 1>he did? You know, we weren't properly prepared, they.

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Weren't giving And I think that, and I think that

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that, you know, there's something to be said

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>about the fact that we cannot accept mediocrity right and

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 2>we have to succeed, excel and then succeed and excel again.

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>So I don't, you know, I don't want to give

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the impression that we think it's just okay, or you know,

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 2>black children should just have something different or be treated differently.

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>But I know for a fact that in Baltimore, they're

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>from super super super smart kids. Everybody in Baltimore is

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 2>not an uneducated or unable to pass that test. There's

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 2>something else going on, and I hope that they take

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 2>the time to figure it out. And I also hope

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 2>that parents, while they can be upset with the system,

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 2>but that they also look at themselves and to know

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 2>how much are they helping their children to focus so

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 2>that they can be prepared beyond the test, you know,

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 2>beyond tests. I'm not even talking about the test. I'm

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 2>talking about just making sure that our kids are properly prepared.

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 2>But I knew that they would be some ramifications of

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 2>the pandemic, and I think this is one of them

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>showing up, and it's going to be even more because

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 2>our ability to compete in the global society is really

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 2>really it's it's a it's a very sensitive topic and

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 2>it's also a uh, it's a gloomy conversation because it's

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 2>not We're not where we should be. But I do

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 2>think that when we speak about Baltimore, we should shift

0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 2>to the next conversation quickly. And and I want to

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 2>give my thought of the day and year related to

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>the issue that we were just talking about. I'm really

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>watching this next topic unfolds, and I'm realizing that reading

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and comprehension is becoming real difficult for folks. I was

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>driving the other day and I was gone into a

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 2>place in New Jersey or root for and I've been

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 2>going to this place for several years. I go there

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>all the time. I got ready to put on my

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 2>GPS the address, and I said to myself, why are

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 2>you using that GPS to get to somewhere where you

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 2>know how to go? Yeah, I'm sure there's a couple

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 2>turns that you know sometimes you kind of when you're

0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 2>going to something. It's not my everyday drive. So when

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 2>you're going it from New York into New Jersey and

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:36.359
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what you're doing, you could go past

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 2>something and then you gotta go all the way back,

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and that's not always easy. So it's definitely simpler to

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 2>put your GPS on and to take me straight there.

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 2>But I rejected the idea that I can't figure this

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 2>out on my own with my own brain, and I

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.760
<v Speaker 2>don't need the phone, the internet and the lady talking

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to me to tell me exactly how to get to

0:51:58.160 --> 0:51:59.839
<v Speaker 2>where it is. And I'm going I need to open

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 2>pay attention stop talking on the phone so much or

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 2>doing whatever else that I'm doing that's distracting me from

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>using my own brain. So I just started driving, and

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:13.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what, when it was time for me to

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.359
<v Speaker 2>turn into the entrance to where I was going, which,

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>by the way, it is a very it's kind of

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 2>dangerous because if you don't big no early enough and

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 2>then turn into the parking lot, you can really you

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 2>could cause an accident because it's people right up on

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 2>you behind. And I wasn't paying attention that well at

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.320
<v Speaker 2>that time, and so I went past it right And

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 2>then I've started for a few seconds being like, damn,

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I went past it. I should have put the GPS on,

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 2>have another conversation with myself, like it's not that serious.

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 2>You need to get off here, either go around the

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 2>back way and come around to it. This ain't ain't

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in a different community. I'm not in the

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 2>next state. You know, I'm ok here, or just go

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 2>this way, do this, do that. It took me next

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 2>of seven extra minutes to find my way around, and

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the next thing you know, I was at my location

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and I said to myself one of the things about

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 2>this cell phone and the conveniences of information that is

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 2>largely misinformation in some instances and in other instances overloaded

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 2>information is that it is dumbing people down from being

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 2>able to read, discern, and understand underlying context and facts.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 2>And the reason why this happened is because with all

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of us last week or the week before, when we

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 2>were traveling together to go to our coworkers mother's funeral service.

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 2>As I was driving, I was having issues because the

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 2>GPS wasn't catching up with me to go different turns

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and I started and because I was relying

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 2>so much on the GPS to tell me things, the

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 2>style was right there and I wasn't paying attention. So

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 2>I said to myself, when going to Jersey from New

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 2>York City, I'm not going to focus only on this phone,

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 2>because if the phone goes dead or something happened, right.

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 1>No, the phone, we can focus on that fall work.

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. It is become the endoor be all,

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.439
<v Speaker 2>and it just can't be that way. It just can't

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 2>be that way. So you know, there's some people who

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 2>will probably say, whatever, do what you want to do,

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 2>and that's fine. I respect that too, but I personally

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 2>have decided that I have to do a lot more

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 2>without the cell phone guiding my every move because it

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>is truly taken away from I remember before my parents

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 2>had cell phones, they used to read books all day long,

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what they love. Then be reading three books at

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:53.919
<v Speaker 2>the same time, both of them sitting there either reading

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the same book and discussing it or reading one read

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>one book and pass it to the other one the

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 2>other word like they used to read all the time.

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'll never forget my father saying that since he

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:05.399
<v Speaker 2>picked up the cell phone, because they didn't have cell phone,

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 2>they waited maybe a year and a half or so,

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 2>two years after people or everybody had a phone, they

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 2>still was on the back end of that. I remember

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 2>my father saying to me, since he picked up the

0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:20.280
<v Speaker 2>cell phone, has it has cut back on the amount

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 2>of reading because he can't necessarily focus on reading as

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:27.200
<v Speaker 2>much as he used to. And I realized that that's

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 2>part of the problem with this generation, is that we

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 2>are so focused on the cell phone and focused on

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the information coming through the line coming through the You

0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:41.799
<v Speaker 2>know everything, you see everything, you know your full understanding.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>It's based upon a post or something that you read

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 2>on the Internet, which is through two sentences and maybe

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 2>a caption, maybe a caption, maybe even ten words that

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:59.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody said when the extra part is in word eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and fifteen. But all you heard is up to ten

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and therefore you make a full assumption. You're not even

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>a person to sit back and say, well, let me

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 2>go see a little bit more about that. And it

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 2>brings me to my thoughts on Jada Pinkett and this book.

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I've already put a statement out there and you know,

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 2>and talked about it. But now this week we had

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful, amazing event. I just want to thank you,

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 2>my son, and James Bond and Angelo Pinto and all

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the other brothers who were there to assist the women

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and make sure that our event went well. All the

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 2>help that you all were putting in, and the hands

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:43.240
<v Speaker 2>and the drinks and this and that and just everything

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>y'all did to accommodate us holding phones, taking pictures, you know,

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 2>making sure that we had everything that we needed as

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 2>a team. But it's interesting to me that I see

0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 2>so many people making comments about the posts have been

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 2>going up for the last two days where people are

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 2>saying positive, beautiful, things about the energy, about Jada, about

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the book, about what they learned. There are still people,

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 2>there's a few that I'm like that I see this,

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 2>like really, like that's your impression, because I was thinking

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.439
<v Speaker 2>something different. Even people who came to the event said,

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, outside eye on y'all because I ain't even

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 2>understand it. But I can't because my girls invited me.

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm leaving well totally different understanding a totally

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 2>different feeling. And I after sitting with that and looking

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 2>at how there were people and there are people in

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the comment sections that even though I or someone else

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 2>is saying, Wow, you can't judge a book by its cover. Wow,

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I heard some powerful things.

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I was so glad to hear Jada's story and to read,

0:57:57.720 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, to hear things in a book or wow,

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>read the book and it's amazing. And I got to

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 2>see the energy. I feel this, and that they're still

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 2>in there, Like, no, I can't believe you would say that,

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this world is going, Oh my god,

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:14.040
<v Speaker 2>how can you support you this? And that the third meanwhile,

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you ain't read the book. You've never been in a

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 2>room with the woman and we had and you telling

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 2>us based upon a social media post. You're giving us

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 2>your opinion based upon a social media post or seven

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 2>or eight words that you heard the sisters say. And

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 2>we're telling you that we sat there for hours and

0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 2>heard all of it. And people have read the book

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and listened to long form two three hour podcasts where

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 2>she is speaking in fall sentences, where the book you

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 2>can read the paragraphs to know the story. They're like, oh,

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 2>she's changing the story now, No, the story in the

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 2>book is exactly what she is saying. But you are

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:54.520
<v Speaker 2>hearing a clip or somebody's impression of it and making

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a determination and telling folks who are actually doing due

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 2>diligence about a black woman. Here, you are a black

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 2>woman tailing down somebody you don't know, never sat down with,

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 2>having read the book, having listened to a long form

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:13.440
<v Speaker 2>interview of any sort. I haven't heard anything past a

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 2>few words. And you got the nerve as a black

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 2>woman and even a black man to sit up there

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and try to tell somebody who didn't do all of

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 2>that that they are crazy or they are wrong, or Jada,

0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:26.360
<v Speaker 2>ain't this or that and the third And you ain't

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 2>spent more than six minutes listening to what she's saying.

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 2>This to me is the most ridiculous thing ever, And

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:38.360
<v Speaker 2>it's telling me that the cell phone is dumbing people

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 2>down because the cell phone helps you form opinions about things. Meanwhile, meanwhile,

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the in person interaction that we had with Jada and

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Will and their family for years says something completely opposite

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 2>of the shit that you see online. And yet you think,

0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 2>because you read it in a clip, that you know

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:02.920
<v Speaker 2>more than we know.

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I think, for me, right, it's it's the hypocrisy. It's

1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it's this, you know, I get. I get called the

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:18.480
<v Speaker 1>sympth every day. Oh, you're not the whole black woman accountable?

1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Why you never do this? And in my my my

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:26.560
<v Speaker 1>reaction and reply to that, it's simple. I've never been

1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a black woman my whole life. I've never been a

1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>black woman. I've been a black man in my whole life.

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:33.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was raised on what men should do. I

1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:36.520
<v Speaker 1>was raised by other men, and they say, hey, men

1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:39.200
<v Speaker 1>should be carrying themself like me, and men should be

1:00:39.320 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 1>doing this, and men should be doing this, and this

1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:44.919
<v Speaker 1>is what a man does. Well, I wasn't. I wasn't

1:00:45.000 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 1>taught about what a woman should be doing and what

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a woman should do. I know what the woman that

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I want you right, so I can I'm able to

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:54.840
<v Speaker 1>pick that woman. That doesn't mean that they're what my

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:57.680
<v Speaker 1>my expectation of what a woman should do for me,

1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it's what a woman should be all together. That I

1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to put my expotensions on all women, but

1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that there are certain activities and certain

1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:11.240
<v Speaker 1>shit as men that we should be doing in ways

1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that we should be carrying ourselves. And I'm going to

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.520
<v Speaker 1>always be vocal about those things. So when we talk

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 1>about this situation, the fact that to me that there

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:22.880
<v Speaker 1>are so many men that someone has to say about

1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:28.280
<v Speaker 1>with Jada done what Jada saying right, and they are

1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:32.520
<v Speaker 1>ignoring the fact that her husband, the man that she's with,

1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:37.040
<v Speaker 1>hasn't said many of the ship that you're saying, isn't

1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:40.400
<v Speaker 1>angry about the shit that you anger by. You are

1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:43.480
<v Speaker 1>sure because you have a criteria and expetition for your

1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:46.120
<v Speaker 1>woman to be a certain way, and that's why you're

1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:49.480
<v Speaker 1>not in the relationship with Jada Pinjin. That's why your

1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:52.560
<v Speaker 1>relationship is not their relationship. They've been walked together for

1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 1>over twenty seven years in a relationship, in a marriage

1:01:56.320 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 1>for all these years and it's working for them because

1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of the thing that you might not he be like,

1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I could never do that I can

1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:07.280
<v Speaker 1>never Oh man, it is y'all of y'all is in relationship.

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Were women the nigga that got four or five baby

1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.240
<v Speaker 1>ruppers and had baby white y'all. A lot of y'all

1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:16.720
<v Speaker 1>is when women that that got babies woined you. A

1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:18.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of y'all have been a lot of y'all are

1:02:18.600 --> 1:02:21.120
<v Speaker 1>products of those relationships. A lot of y'all just come

1:02:21.160 --> 1:02:23.880
<v Speaker 1>from this more high ground ship that y'all be talking

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:27.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's the Internet. Because you don't think nobody knows

1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>what you've been dealing with or what you put up with,

1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and if it was okay for you, that was your relationship,

1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the ship that you you you probably put up in

1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:39.600
<v Speaker 1>your relationship. Jada and Will probably wouldn't do what they

1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:41.720
<v Speaker 1>put up with what they put up in their relationship.

1:02:41.760 --> 1:02:44.440
<v Speaker 1>You don't understand the dynamics of someone else in the

1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:47.920
<v Speaker 1>relationship to be able to have such full judgment on it.

1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It is actually corny to me that I watched men

1:02:51.080 --> 1:02:53.160
<v Speaker 1>always do the oh j I watch a lot of

1:02:53.280 --> 1:02:55.880
<v Speaker 1>men talking about with Jada's this, and she's this and that,

1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and I watched niggas all of like, I had this

1:02:57.920 --> 1:03:00.640
<v Speaker 1>conversation the other day and I'm like, Yo, the ship

1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:02.479
<v Speaker 1>that I re seeing blue faith due to them girls.

1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:04.640
<v Speaker 1>That shit is crazy. Ain't no man gonna be like

1:03:04.840 --> 1:03:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that shit is whack, bro, Like those are your being mothers.

1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:11.600
<v Speaker 1>But have a level of respect or you know, fuck it,

1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I wonture for what you go through. Just talk this

1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:16.400
<v Speaker 1>like we watch it, Like they say, YO, will respect

1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Jada enough to not say even if you whatever you

1:03:19.880 --> 1:03:21.800
<v Speaker 1>think is going on, you know, there's a level of

1:03:21.920 --> 1:03:25.560
<v Speaker 1>respect for that that will let right that a man has.

1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:29.280
<v Speaker 1>He's killing himself like a man in every situation. When

1:03:29.320 --> 1:03:31.080
<v Speaker 1>we look at the situation that he was gonna do,

1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and when the reason why they had to be a

1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:35.520
<v Speaker 1>red told you know why, because it was a sucker

1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:40.200
<v Speaker 1>ass nigga that would disposed what he had to talk

1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:43.520
<v Speaker 1>about in their family. He want, he want. He He

1:03:43.880 --> 1:03:47.600
<v Speaker 1>opened his mouth about a relationship with another woman that

1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:49.840
<v Speaker 1>she never said to the body, and that man decided

1:03:50.000 --> 1:03:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go public about me and me in a relationship.

1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:54.959
<v Speaker 1>This is what's sucker. This is the something shit that y'all,

1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:57.640
<v Speaker 1>don't say nothing about nobody ain't saying that stuff, and

1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:59.800
<v Speaker 1>that that brings me to my eye. Don't get it.

1:04:01.040 --> 1:04:03.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, we can continue over, but it's this is

1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:07.120
<v Speaker 1>just a perfect segue from me. I don't get It's

1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like even when I would listening to Blueface talk about

1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:12.200
<v Speaker 1>he has sex with Megan and this other person talking

1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:15.240
<v Speaker 1>about who they has, when did men start doing this

1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>clown shit? Like? When did men just start saying yo,

1:04:19.040 --> 1:04:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I had said to the woman and I need to

1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:24.520
<v Speaker 1>publicly talk about it. That shit is so corny to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like to me, like the men, yo, we never did

1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:31.120
<v Speaker 1>shit like that. Women wanted to talk about them having

1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:33.640
<v Speaker 1>sex with it. I never wanted to to brag and

1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:37.600
<v Speaker 1>publicly talk about who I had sext with because they

1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:40.520
<v Speaker 1>were something like this shit is so corny. When did

1:04:40.600 --> 1:04:43.360
<v Speaker 1>niggas get this corny like it used to be real

1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:46.000
<v Speaker 1>men and be like, nah, that me me with me

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<v Speaker 1>and that woman did it personal to us? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna devote the information if that's not something

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<v Speaker 1>that's public knowledge already. I'm not publicly going up and

1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:57.160
<v Speaker 1>devote a private situation I had with a woman. Y'all,

1:04:57.240 --> 1:05:00.440
<v Speaker 1>niggas the fuck the game. But when did y'all get

1:05:00.480 --> 1:05:03.560
<v Speaker 1>this week? Intended that you y'all need to get props

1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:05.760
<v Speaker 1>for having a woman so wants to give props for

1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:08.720
<v Speaker 1>having sex with you. When your niggas got this week, man,

1:05:09.240 --> 1:05:12.000
<v Speaker 1>when your mouth start opening up and talking about shit

1:05:12.160 --> 1:05:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like that. So we look at this whole situation that

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<v Speaker 1>brought us to a red table talk. It was a nigga.

1:05:18.080 --> 1:05:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It was a nigga that decided, oh, you know what,

1:05:20.640 --> 1:05:22.760
<v Speaker 1>my feeling is so hurt, and I'm going to go

1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:25.480
<v Speaker 1>on public TV and I'm gonna talk about how this

1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:27.840
<v Speaker 1>woman did me bad when when we're in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>and now she decided to talk and she explained to

1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:33.520
<v Speaker 1>y'all what was going on in her marriage on how

1:05:33.600 --> 1:05:35.959
<v Speaker 1>they were separated, and y'all didn't want to hear that part.

1:05:36.840 --> 1:05:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Y'all just want to villainize that woman. And just to

1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:41.720
<v Speaker 1>me and just watching men like I don't, I don't

1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:43.760
<v Speaker 1>really talk about when women say the other women. That's

1:05:43.800 --> 1:05:46.360
<v Speaker 1>your decision, y'all, y'all know what y'all going through. Y'all

1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:48.920
<v Speaker 1>can have y'all dialogue, that's your thing. But to me,

1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:52.040
<v Speaker 1>this kid constantly watching men have something to say about

1:05:52.120 --> 1:05:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Jada when her man ain't saying nothing about it. It's

1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:56.280
<v Speaker 1>just corny and nigga read to get a life, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it shit that we you dealing with in

1:05:58.760 --> 1:06:00.960
<v Speaker 1>your household. That of an no nigga like that, I

1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:03.120
<v Speaker 1>probably ain't gonna deal with that. We all have, We

1:06:03.200 --> 1:06:06.200
<v Speaker 1>all dealt with other people. They gonna deal with any

1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:08.560
<v Speaker 1>old relationship. And you have just to mind your mother

1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:09.720
<v Speaker 1>fucking business man.

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<v Speaker 2>On the thing that, well, you know what, I don't.

1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't why that's what said. This whole mind your

1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:19.320
<v Speaker 2>business thing, because when people put their business out there,

1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:22.040
<v Speaker 2>then folks are gonna speak on it. So I'm cool

1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:22.200
<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to say, when they put their business

1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:27.960
<v Speaker 1>out there, say the right business, right, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even know because.

1:06:32.440 --> 1:06:34.680
<v Speaker 1>If you if you're not informed, if you just making

1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it just like I don't what I don't do right

1:06:36.640 --> 1:06:38.800
<v Speaker 1>right when I said your group Faith said that he

1:06:38.880 --> 1:06:41.360
<v Speaker 1>had sex with mag this, I didn't get that off

1:06:41.400 --> 1:06:44.360
<v Speaker 1>a blogs I watched. I watched the interview and I

1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:46.880
<v Speaker 1>heard him say that his mouth right, I didn't say

1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:50.040
<v Speaker 1>this person said that this is going on and saying

1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:52.160
<v Speaker 1>it was all new they said it was all. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm trying to say. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I make this, uh, when I make my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>on something, it's something that that individual personally said they

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<v Speaker 1>did and personally and literally, and then I can I'm

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<v Speaker 1>basing it off that alonee I'm not basing it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she cheated or real she did this. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>say that. He ain't never said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he never said that. He never said that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she admits, which, by the way, no one

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<v Speaker 2>is perfect and no situation is gonna be perfect, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So she admits that the whole thing, the whole red

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<v Speaker 2>table talk people that don't want them to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>because as they were getting ready for it, the only

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<v Speaker 2>right thing to do would have been to tell people

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<v Speaker 2>at that time that they were separated. And she says,

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<v Speaker 2>Will wanted to go to the table with her. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want her to go by herself. So she went

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<v Speaker 2>to the table. They sat together, and then she knew,

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<v Speaker 2>based upon the way in which you know, the communication

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<v Speaker 2>was going, he wasn't ready. He wasn't ready to tell

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<v Speaker 2>people that they weren't together. And it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things about that. It's a lot of things about that

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<v Speaker 2>we could sing it analyze, but we won't. But you

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<v Speaker 2>can rea between the lines. Number One, when people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he looks so hurt and this and that, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know from living life, not from being their friend

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<v Speaker 2>or knowing Jada and being around and seeing them, because

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything other than honorable behavior and them

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<v Speaker 2>being so loving towards one another. But me being a

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<v Speaker 2>woman and living life, we know that Jada and Will

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just separate in twenty sixteen because they woke up

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<v Speaker 2>the sin Oh I don't like shit happened. Some things

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<v Speaker 2>went on, right, and I'm sure some things went on

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<v Speaker 2>that he did. Like she said, he ain't perfect noise

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<v Speaker 2>she so wherever they ended up, whatever they came to

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<v Speaker 2>when they got to the red table. When you start

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<v Speaker 2>talking about exposing to the world that we're not really

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<v Speaker 2>we've been separated for a while, people have to really

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<v Speaker 2>think about the fact that Will Smith has in many

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<v Speaker 2>ways lived a perfect life publicly a perfect life. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't know much about anything that he has going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been publicly pretty much perfect. Everything else is

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<v Speaker 2>hearsay and salacious headlines and whatnot, but it's been pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much perfect. So when people start unveiling and pulling apart

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<v Speaker 2>that perfection, it's not easy for everyone to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>for many different reasons. So she says that people didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want her to do the Red Table, but she was ready,

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<v Speaker 2>she was ready to talk. She was ready. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>our egos drive us in a lot of ways to

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<v Speaker 2>be like y'all. Like she said, I wasn't gonna be emotional,

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<v Speaker 2>held hostage emotionally. I wasn't gonna let people know something

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<v Speaker 2>about me and try to hold it over my head

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<v Speaker 2>or use it and talk about me as it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing that. I'm gonna tell my own story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the story is powerful. But I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing she said that is the best part.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she said a lot of things at that event,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that were so powerful, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was so moving all the way to your stomach. You

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<v Speaker 2>could feel it because she's so dope. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that I think sums up this conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is when that woman said, me and will

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<v Speaker 2>be laughing at everybody together. And she said, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>and because the question that Kim Blackwell, who was an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible moderator, conversationalist with Jada, Kim Blackwell did an awesome job.

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<v Speaker 2>And the question Kim asked her was, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how are the kids and how is all

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<v Speaker 2>of this working out for the kids and with all

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<v Speaker 2>the noise and whatever, And Jada said, one, this is

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<v Speaker 2>old folks problem because my children, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm talking to them, they don't even know. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not even they in a whole different world. They don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not seeing this every day. This is not something

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<v Speaker 2>that's coming up on their timeline all the time. But

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, my family has been through this. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>y'all the story on the back end, they already been

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<v Speaker 2>through it with me, so they know the deal. They

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<v Speaker 2>understand the dynamics of the relationship between their father and

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<v Speaker 2>me and this and that they know all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said, if my family wasn't good, I would

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<v Speaker 2>not have written this book. I wouldn't even be doing

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<v Speaker 2>this if my family wasn't good. But we're in such

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<v Speaker 2>a solid place as a family that it gives me

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<v Speaker 2>the freedom to speak and to tell my story.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know even at the times when they may

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<v Speaker 2>have been going through things that we didn't know. We

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<v Speaker 2>were in space with them, and we can honestly attest

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<v Speaker 2>and anybody who doesn't believe it or this and that

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<v Speaker 2>that's on you. We can honestly attest that the Smith

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<v Speaker 2>family is one of the most solid, down to earth,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and loving families that I've ever experienced in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of these Hollywood relationships. Those people are solid and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they but they solid and real, so real shit has happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that Jada and the way of which

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<v Speaker 2>she's telling her story and all that it means, I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel sorry for anyone that's so foolish that they're

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<v Speaker 2>caught up in the headlines and they missed the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to learn something and to experience what this woman is

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<v Speaker 2>offering to us in this time, because we know. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a conversation with one of our friends who said,

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<v Speaker 2>I came here and thinking y'all was all crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe it. But now I'm leaving here feeling inspired,

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<v Speaker 2>feeling empowered, feeling like wow, like damn, like what can

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<v Speaker 2>we do to make sure how truth is really out there?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this stuff that's out there that ain't that's not

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<v Speaker 2>matching up with what is actually in the book. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that with me, and that's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. You know, that's on period.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Jada, shout out to will tell her

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<v Speaker 1>to the Smith family. You know, I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>reading the book, is you know, because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just having a relationship with both of them and just

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<v Speaker 1>want to get correct right, just not just want to

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<v Speaker 1>expul shit like people just be on the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the internet, just such a cesspool for dumb shit. People

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<v Speaker 1>just spew anything and say whatever they think. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have no facts to back it up. They just throw

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<v Speaker 1>all type of random bullshit out. Read the book, understand

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what's going on. And then if you make a

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<v Speaker 1>decision that you don't like Ja, you you think she

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<v Speaker 1>did all the ship baits on the fact and cool,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's your opinion. That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just I don't want to read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna say, I don't want to read book. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to read the book and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get the real owner leadership, quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>You should just be quiet. And that's how we go

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