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Speaker 3: Kelvin is a young guy. I get it.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 5: Now went behind the ears when it comes to the

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Speaker 3: How long have I been covering the National Football Night seven?

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Speaker 3: There you go. I didn't hear it eighty. I took

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Speaker 3: my hand over and this year you just got to

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Speaker 3: give it up to me.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I told you I don't have no problem giving

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Speaker 1: it up to you. You you called this one. I

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Speaker 1: hate Chiefs, Lions stealers.

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Speaker 5: I also said, what when we talked about Pete Carroll

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Speaker 3: That's a half because I said that.

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Speaker 5: I said Brian Daboll should be fired when he got fired.

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Speaker 5: It's just been an unbelievable Caleb. I'm a believer they

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Speaker 5: won the NFC North that a number two seed.

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Speaker 3: I say, Eagles doing, by the way. And then I

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Speaker 3: saw his toss.

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Speaker 1: Tom, believe it a little crazy sound his toss at

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Speaker 1: a little crazy?

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Speaker 3: Oh trace out of Mama. I mean love Caleb ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I could leave.

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Speaker 1: Him if I tried the best part about this is

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Speaker 1: imagining you at home writing these.

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Speaker 5: Oh God, all right, let's welcome to the couple crew,

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Speaker 5: because you wouldn't be make them wait to get Rob

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Speaker 3: Producer, Mexican. Alex's our engineer. You're a hidden that's right.

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Speaker 5: Bree is at the anchor death you'll keep us updated

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Speaker 5: throughout the show.

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Speaker 3: Wheelchair Ryan in the building. And saga, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: that's right for who is here?

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Speaker 1: Saga soccer. You don't have to tolerate this, saga. Saga

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Speaker 1: cough twice if you if you want help, cough twice.

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Speaker 1: And there's just you know, these bills ain't gonna pay themselves.

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Speaker 1: I guess I gotta take it.

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Speaker 3: All right. You could go ahead and I see your little.

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Speaker 1: Tom, I don't be doing that. No, no, say what

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Speaker 1: you gotta say. All I'm gonna say about what I'm

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Speaker 1: poop poo it all you want. They they did what

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Speaker 1: they were supposed to do. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 5: For all your anti Aaron Rodgers, and it doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: and all that he actually was ten and five as

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Speaker 5: a starting quarterback because there were two games he did

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Speaker 5: not play that they lost. And if you look at

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Speaker 5: is and this that's the reason I said that they

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Speaker 5: waited on him. And you can see read all the stories.

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Speaker 5: This is what they were waiting for, somebody who can

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Speaker 3: And let's hear Mike Tomlin on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: You married him from afar for a long time. It's

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Speaker 4: good to do it with him. But again, as I've

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Speaker 4: you do business with a forty one, forty two year

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Speaker 4: old guy. Been there, done that, guy with a resume

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Speaker 4: like his. He's not only capable man, he thrives in it.

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Speaker 5: And this made total sense to me all year. I

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Speaker 6: You already go ahead, he already ready. I'm just saying

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Speaker 6: because I saw the way you rolled your eyes. But anyway,

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Speaker 6: now all of a sudden, he's a Texan guy.

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Speaker 3: You could go ahead and ride that pony all you

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Speaker 5: But my bottom line is again, Aaron Rodgers came to

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Speaker 5: Ten wins in fifteen games is pretty impressive. And what

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Speaker 3: Did you see the guys he was throwing.

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Speaker 5: the Stealers did what they needed to do and now

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Speaker 5: by winning the division. And don't forget last year they

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Speaker 1: By the Ravens in the playoffs. So the difference. First off,

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Speaker 1: let me do this. Oh you got something for the man. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I pay up my debts number one that listen. You

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Speaker 1: I also admit when you're right, you don't do walk

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Speaker 1: with me. You don't admit what I'm right. Buffalo wild Ways, Yes,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Buffalo who you want to

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Speaker 3: I pay him the debt. Here's what Here's here's let's

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Speaker 3: start with the bet. Right there.

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Speaker 1: I said they went nine, you said they went ten.

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Speaker 1: I was a game off. So there that is honoring that.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I still stand on what I've said. Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin is reveling in mediocrity right now. Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 1: excited that a kicker who had been twenty eight for

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Speaker 3: You've sat here, now we're gonna do it. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: do that. You sat here. Should have missed it. He

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Speaker 3: should have made the kick, and they would have looked, Okay.

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Speaker 5: What you maybe not go this literally should have happened.

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Speaker 5: You did, You should have extra missport extra, Yes, miss

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Speaker 5: the point. So we go to overtime to go that. Well,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying if you want to go on. So

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Speaker 5: where I'm going is you yourself? Have even questioned Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 3: More, said they would have lost. I would have been

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Speaker 3: They don't. They they win.

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Speaker 1: Credit them, but the game they should have lost doesn't

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Speaker 1: now they're exactly. My whole point of the whole conversation

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Speaker 3: They're ten and seven, just like they were ten and

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Speaker 3: seven with him. Come on, and I really mean this. No,

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Speaker 3: let me tell you what. Listen, I'm being an honest fan.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: You the whole point of this lost their last five

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Speaker 1: So they lost to they lost two games, then they won,

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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, And listen, Aaron Rodgers did what

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Speaker 1: come on here had they lost, not bashed Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I was going to bash DK Metcalf for screwing his

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Speaker 1: That's what I was prepared to do with if the

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Speaker 3: My issue is that they're ten and seven again and

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Speaker 1: Go up against what the Baltimore Ravens could not do

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Speaker 1: Texans do. So my point is, are we going to

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Speaker 3: They lose to the.

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Speaker 3: They beat the Texas, then what would you call I'm

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Speaker 3: just I mean, it's sincerely.

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Speaker 1: I would be shocked if they beat detect Not that

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Speaker 1: the Texans are the eighty five Bears, not then that specifically,

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Speaker 1: that's the team that matches up worked like a bad matchup.

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Speaker 1: If they're for the Chargers and Steelers, I'll be like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: they got a little you know, hey, if this were

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Speaker 5: Got in Pittsburgh neutralize his team, they don't play outside

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Speaker 5: in the coal I'm it's not.

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Speaker 3: Even disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: It's a different regular league that that's the team that

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Speaker 1: you're Aaron Rodgers and Steelers. We don't want a team

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Speaker 3: That's what you don't want. So my whole point was

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Speaker 3: that they looked the same and.

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Speaker 1: They're ten and seven and seven last year and they're

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Speaker 1: it's not your rushing dollars a lesson, but I'm saying that,

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Speaker 3: But how did they win?

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Speaker 1: You picked the Ravens, But also my last point, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: pick Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Pick the Ravens ought to go to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: So did you? But also picked all of them? Because

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Speaker 3: what did I tell you? Right? And we're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: about them? Did I know?

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Speaker 1: We're saying we don't talk about that. And my last

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Speaker 1: to the miakary and you have to be who's in

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Speaker 1: he did. But I'm saying in and out of the lineup,

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Speaker 1: meaning I'm saying, had they he been in, maybe they

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Speaker 1: win more. They're the division leaders by far, and so

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Speaker 1: my whole point is they sit here exactly at ten

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Speaker 1: out to beat the Texans, and we want and we're

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Speaker 3: The Kommlins again, Ravens twice. I have to look at it.

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Speaker 3: I know they obviously see and they beat him twice.

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Speaker 3: They beat him twice, the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Rob Gee, we had some I guess history made yesterday

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Speaker 7: Yes mean you guess. I guess that was history made.

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Speaker 7: They stopped the game to celebrated. That's how much history

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Speaker 7: was made. Miles Garrett pass Rusher Extraordinary out of Cleveland

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Speaker 3: I guess gotta I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Miles Garrett is a tremendous player, but that's a Gaysey

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Speaker 5: He needed seventeen games to do what Michael Strahan did

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Speaker 5: I really do, stopping a game for that, and that

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Speaker 5: I know it was because it was behind a line

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Speaker 5: But are we gonna stop the game for everything? And

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Speaker 5: I got no thrill out of it. To me, it

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Speaker 5: That to stop the game, not that, not that he

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Speaker 1: Well, I tell you you ever heard of a sexist?

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Speaker 1: I need a birth certificate.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I used to joke about the Dominican players in the

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Speaker 3: Tied it three years ago. Do you remember the ceremony

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Speaker 3: Wanted to hear that. And now you're suffering. Your team

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Speaker 1: But no, So I don't I don't mind a quick

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Speaker 3: I'm just we do that.

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Speaker 1: So and so breaks the sport. They stopped the game,

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Speaker 1: and whatever, you'll stop the game. The Bengals were trying

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Speaker 5: We talked about it, and I told you the reason

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't pick the Ravens on paper. They should have

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Speaker 5: won the game on paper, but you know that's not

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Speaker 5: didn't watch the game, Okay, seriously, because you just can't

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Speaker 5: I just don't know how John Harbor wasn't fired today.

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Speaker 5: I'm dead serious. He's been there too long. The season

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Speaker 3: They go, well, how are you gonna blame a midfield

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Speaker 5: But as we know, if he wins that game, coach

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all year they scuffled and the coach got him

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Speaker 5: job he did. That's what would have happened. But the

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Speaker 5: bottom line is the Ravens are disappointing. This season started

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Speaker 5: we talked about a timeout. They could have run another play,

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Speaker 3: I believe that. I believe that that's why they didn't

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Speaker 5: he might have broke through him winning. He's capable, right Listen.

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Speaker 5: This is one time win agreement. I've said this before

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Speaker 5: with you guys, Nothing ever is complete with the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson will ball out, likely will drop it, say

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Speaker 5: Flowers will fumble, Derek Henry that cat that likely, all

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Speaker 5: There's always something Lamar Jackson, maybe he the defense plays

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Speaker 1: They never can be complete, and you're always like, man,

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Speaker 1: if y'all could be complete, you might be the best

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL the last two or three years. Wise,

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Speaker 1: you got enough receivers, not saying you got Deamonte and

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Speaker 1: Now Hamilton going out, maybe that costs point is that's

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Speaker 1: we will give credit to the Chiefs. Last year they

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Speaker 1: use them all that stuff you did them, You followed

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Speaker 1: a couple of times. You know what, it is a

439
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: chance to make it for Go get me eight yards

440
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: up to God. So likely made up for some missus

441
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: and alas and whatnot.

442
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 5: He made a great catch on fourth and seven, and

443
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 5: that ball dropped the seasons over right.

444
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: There's no old way. They think we're getting ready to

445
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 1: run this RPO. They think we're gonna just hand it

446
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: to Derek Henry of the gun. Go do an r PO, breakout,

447
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: all side, slide down, call a timeout to you have

448
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 1: two timeouts. Don't put all the pressure on a rookie kicker.

449
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: By the way, kicker, this ain't just a regular game.

450
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: You miss it, we don't go to the playoffs. But

451
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: by the way, all the pressures on you, how about

452
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 1: this one hundred and fifty something plus yards for Derrick

453
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 1: Henry first half five carries, the second half rock What

454
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: happened against the was a the Bengals, I'm sorry the

455
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: Chiefs on them.

456
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: They just always are not on point. And when they

457
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 3: lost to the Chiefs in the AFC, Chips didn't run anymore,

458
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: didn't run the ball. You remember that. That's what.

459
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 1: It's always something with them, and it is time to

460
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Speaker 1: explore new options. A lot of people are saying, man,

461
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: trying to look at Lamar the cap hitting on seventy five.

462
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna work that deal out. They're gonna work it

463
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Speaker 1: out with him. He wants to let me tell you

464
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Speaker 1: what I ain't doing. I'm not getting the guy who's

465
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: been the best player arguably for two to three years,

466
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Speaker 1: who had an off season for sure in and out

467
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: of the lineup. How WANs to let that man go

468
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. I don't give a dang. We

469
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: ain't letting him go. So if some change, are you

470
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: kidding me?

471
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Speaker 3: Rush?

472
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Speaker 5: I know it would be It would be illogical if

473
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 5: I got to pick between the two.

474
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Speaker 1: And it's not even I'm not even thinking about a

475
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Speaker 1: thirty four or something. We had a good ten twelve. Okay,

476
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Speaker 1: maybe jud he's twenty eight. You saw what he can

477
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: do now, Lamar. The only thing I will say to him,

478
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Speaker 1: I don't know. And I mean it's sincerely Robert talking

479
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: robb G about this. Maybe you can tell me. I

480
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: want you to tell me. Dubb said, Cal you're going

481
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: low overboard. You're going overboard?

482
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Speaker 3: All right? No, wait, at least let me get it out. Okay.

483
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if times if Lamar Jackson still has PTSD

484
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: from the He's not a quarterback. He's just an athlete.

485
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: He's a this and he wants to prove that I'm

486
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Maybe it's just because he's banged up this season,

487
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: but there are a paandful of plays in the last

488
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: few games that he has played where he's not running.

489
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: See how there's an opportunity.

490
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 1: Where you're like this is weird, Like oh that's right there,

491
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: go pick up that third and he's not running and

492
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of overthinking, and I'm like, dude, drop back,

493
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: ain't nothing new you out, this is what made you

494
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: spectaculars has made you dangerous, made you the two time MVP,

495
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: And I did see a few plays. I was texting

496
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Speaker 1: you guys, text and Rob G like, I don't know

497
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: if again, if it's that in the back like Jalen

498
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: Hurts doesn't really run anymore.

499
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if in the back of her heads.

500
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Speaker 3: And I'm just being real, you tell me.

501
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes the black quarterback all they're just athletes, they're not quarterbacks.

502
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: They're not this, And I don't know if that plays

503
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: in her heads at times, you know, and they just

504
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: want to prove it that I can throw this thing.

505
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: When it's like, dude, this is a dual threat quarterback

506
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: league period, White Black, Polynesian samoing, it don't matter.

507
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: Can you can you go get me some yards? And

508
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: I see some players where I'm like, this is weird, Lamar,

509
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: are you you be out? And he's like, I don't

510
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: think it's the proving part. Because maybe that's why I said,

511
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: maybe I'm overthinking.

512
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Speaker 5: Because he's won two MVPs and all and he got

513
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 5: on All Pro without the MVP that so he really

514
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 5: almost had three MVPs. But my point is, I just

515
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 5: think it's not that I think he was injured. I

516
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 5: think he had a back injury. And rob G even

517
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Speaker 5: pointed out, I know he said that even last year

518
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 5: I think he had did he have eight hundred yards?

519
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 7: Rob G?

520
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: What was the number?

521
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: He had?

522
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Speaker 3: Nine hundred and fifteen rush?

523
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Speaker 1: Ye?

524
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Speaker 3: Yeh fifteen last year and this year what was the number? Three?

525
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Speaker 3: Forty nine? So then the big thing is his attempts

526
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: is less than half and he how many games he missed?

527
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 7: Four games he played thirteen games, sixty seven attempts. Last

528
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Speaker 7: year he played seventeen games at one hundred and thirty

529
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Speaker 7: nine rushing.

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a there's a degree. Yeah, just I'll

531
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Speaker 3: agree that he doesn't run as much. He's like, it's

532
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: but it's there. That's the thing. It's not like he's

533
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying force it.

534
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, you're subconscious of seeing Lamar you go,

535
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: oh he's about to break out. Oh he'sou Wait what

536
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: is he? And he's like running sideways and he's like,

537
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: call you Lamar go. And that's why we had that

538
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: conversation about Lamar is clearly faster than Josh Allen. He's

539
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: more agile than the Josh Allen. But I was saying,

540
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen at the end of it, his is more productive,

541
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: Like it leads to something, it leads to a first down,

542
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: it leads to a gazillion touchdowns at this point, and like, Lamar,

543
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: that's what makes you amazing, Like use that, and I

544
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: just he's like overthinking that. But that that just just

545
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: me looking at Lamar, like I want you to get

546
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: like be you, be own it be great. That's what

547
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: makes you the best player or you know, arguably one

548
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: or two in the league. And I'm seeing him like

549
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: what is he's like running sideways kind of not just

550
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: like he's not breaking out to do what he does

551
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: right now. That would be my one thing. I looked

552
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: at the last couple of games and last time in particular,

553
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: in a winner dual, do or die game, there's a

554
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: few times in the first half of oh, he's about

555
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: like he's easily running, that's what Lamar does.

556
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, and then he doesn't do it.

557
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 3: It's a little weird. That's a little weird.

558
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 5: He's not that a few times, and I don't know.

559
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, the the numbers bear it

560
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 5: out that he isn't running as much. And I don't

561
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 5: know if he's also been banged up. And you know

562
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 5: when you talk about a back or whatever, and you're

563
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 5: trying to get out there and play, and you don't

564
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 5: want to, like, you know, put yourself in harm's way.

565
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: Once you become a runner, you know they can get

566
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: they can get hit. And so what did you not

567
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: see me play in high school? Did you not see

568
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: me play in college? This is who I am as

569
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: football dash Jackson Dart. Okay, this is what it is.

570
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it's football.

571
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 5: You're not watching me on the Giants, So I'm thinking

572
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 5: about looking at another quarterbacks football Rob crazy all.

573
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: Right, But yeah, John Harriball, he doesn't.

574
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't make you feel confident when the game is

575
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: on the line, and it's happened too often and the

576
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: team doesn't And part of that's a reflection of the coach,

577
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: Rob right, where you don't feel like they can close

578
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: this deal. At a certain point, we started looking at

579
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: the coach looking at the sideline like they're a reflection

580
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: of you.

581
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: Rob g jump in.

582
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Speaker 7: I got a big question for you guys, because coming

583
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 7: into the season, both of y'all had your chest all

584
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 7: puffed out like you were peacocking around the studios that

585
00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 7: this was the year for the ball.

586
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: Some more Ravens.

587
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 7: They got all these players, they they've they've warned their

588
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 7: playoff scars.

589
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: You know, they've been through it. This is the year

590
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: they break through.

591
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 7: In fact, coming into the season, the Baltimore Ravens, I

592
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 7: knows it sound like a lot, but in football terms,

593
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 7: had a thirteen percent chance of winning the Super Bowl

594
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 7: according to the ods makers. Unless you are returning champion,

595
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 7: that is a huge number on us.

596
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: That's a big number in football. That it's not the

597
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: NBA football. That's a huge number. And a lot of

598
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: people picked them. Yes, for sure.

599
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 7: And to your point, Lamar Jackson got banged up all season.

600
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 7: The defense was non existent for the first month, and

601
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 7: they finally got it together later.

602
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 5: Don't forget that the first game was the right you

603
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 5: know where they score forty on the road and lose that.

604
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 7: They had some really inexplicable losses, you know, Derreck Henry,

605
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 7: a couple of fumbles won against the Lions, once against

606
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 7: the Buffalo Zay Flowers had inexplicable like Isaiah Likely going

607
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 7: to the aenzone, drops the ball. All that stuff went

608
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 7: wrong and they were a forty four yard field goal

609
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 7: away from making the playoffs.

610
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: Winning the divisures.

611
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 7: So hy, then are you so quick to jump off

612
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 7: the bandwagon when all that stuff went sideways and you

613
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 7: still believe in the talent, you still believing, Lamar Jackson,

614
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 7: are you so ready to tear it all down?

615
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: I know I was gonna say, I know, I have

616
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: my answer. Well, it's a combination. I'm just I think

617
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: the coach you need to get a new voice.

618
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: It has been too long, and you haven't keep thinking

619
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 5: something's gonna change, because you just bring it back next year.

620
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just like you keep doing that and then

621
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: here you go, you're ten years later and nothing's happened.

622
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: So that's the scary part.

623
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 5: And number two, the defense let them down again and

624
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: the touchdown dB fell down.

625
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: Whatever you know whatever.

626
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, no, this is what this is

627
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: what we've been talking about all year with their defense,

628
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 5: and they had how many games did they give up

629
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 5: at the end in the fourth quarter?

630
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: A ton?

631
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: And my thing, rob G is I can't keep going Lamar,

632
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, whatever it may be, is so great. That

633
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: will be eleven and you know six, we'll be twelve

634
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: and five. But when I needed, we don't feel right.

635
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: We're always something on, We've got penalties, we got dry.

636
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: It's like the mojo, the ethos of the team is

637
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: never right. And that is a reflection of the coach.

638
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: And at some point I need somebody that can make

639
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: us feel calm, make us feel confident, make us feel

640
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: like we know what we're doing. And part of that

641
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: is Lamar find a way at times in the playoffs.

642
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: I will give you that. I'll be the first admit that.

643
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: But also part of it is a coach where this

644
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: team none of us feel confident. Do you feel confident

645
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: if I told you they had to go win this

646
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: close game against the Bills of the Patriots, or say

647
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were in there again.

648
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: Do you no, you feel like something's gonna go wrong.

649
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 5: Rod Jay, I didn't feel good for them to go

650
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 5: to Pittsburgh and win that game. They blew Pittsburgh gay,

651
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 5: and they should you should be like, oh, they got

652
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: this to your point.

653
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 7: You know I'm playing Devil's out of you, but to

654
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 7: your point yesterday, here's the stats, third down Baltimore four

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Speaker 7: of twelve. Okay, Aaron Rodgers is eighty seven years old, right,

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Speaker 7: Why on earth was he only sacked twice and Lamar

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Speaker 7: Jackson was sacked three times?

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Penalties double for the Baltimore races.

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Speaker 3: Stupid penalties. Time of Does that look like coaching? I

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Speaker 3: had it for almost nine minutes, longer than Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: And he's and he's a he's a really good coach,

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Speaker 1: not saying he's like get him out and he sucks

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Speaker 1: more So, to your point, is it a voice change?

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Speaker 3: And is it a confidence? Is it somebody else?

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Speaker 1: Is there a Ben Johnson like guy, if you will,

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Speaker 1: who would say no, no, no, you got him right there.

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Speaker 1: This is that missing little thing that I would do

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Speaker 1: to seal the deal with the talent like Lamar Jackson