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Speaker 1: Music Saved Me.

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Speaker 2: I believe music's therapeutic. I've always said it, and what

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Speaker 2: I call what I do is therapeutic music. And I

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Speaker 2: think music is probably the closest thing to therapy. I

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Speaker 2: got until I was in my thirties. It was the

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Speaker 2: closest thing to a healing thing I could do, and

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Speaker 2: music I thought was meant to I always say it

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Speaker 2: this way.

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Speaker 3: Some music's meant to be heard and some music's meant

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Speaker 3: to be felt.

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Speaker 2: And when I was young, I got hyper focused on

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Speaker 2: the feeling of music and how music made people feel,

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Speaker 2: and how constant president always was in our lives.

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Speaker 4: This podcast is called Music Saved Me, and on each

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Speaker 4: episode we'll look at a musician, will delve into their

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Speaker 4: story their deep connection to music. We'll talk with their

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Speaker 4: fans everyday, people with their own story to tell about

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Speaker 4: how music has saved them in challenging times. I'm Lynn Hoffman,

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Speaker 4: your host for the Music Saved Me Podcast. Today, we

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Speaker 4: are so lucky to have one of music's fastest rising

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Speaker 4: stars on Music Saved Me. His music defies categorization, running

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Speaker 4: the gambit from rap to rock, but his big break

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Speaker 4: has come from the country music world. He was born

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Speaker 4: and bred in Nashville, and his name is jelly Roll.

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Speaker 4: Jelly Roll, welcome to the show. Tell everyone who you

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Speaker 4: are and how music has saved you.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, my name is jelly Roll. I'm Jason

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Speaker 2: D FDA from Nashville, Tennessee. Music saved me two or

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Speaker 2: three times over. The first time I seen music have

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Speaker 2: a real impact at all was in my household. We

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Speaker 2: none of us played music, but everybody loved music, and

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Speaker 2: music was the language of the house. So every bedroom

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Speaker 2: would blare different music. And my mother, who struggled with

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Speaker 2: she didn't leave her room very much, but when she would,

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Speaker 3: The kitchen, all six seven of us, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I just remember, that's the only time we've seen

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Speaker 2: I mean, kind of one of the few times we've

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Speaker 3: But I just remember how impactful the.

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Speaker 2: Music was and how much it meant back then, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I think that was the beginning of music starting

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Speaker 2: to save my life.

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Speaker 4: Now, do you believe music has sort of supernatural healing powers,

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Speaker 4: you know, for mental, physical, or maybe even emotional problems.

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Speaker 2: I believe music is therapeutic. I've always said it, and

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Speaker 2: what I call what I do is therapeutic music. And

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Speaker 2: I think music is probably the closest thing to therapy

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Speaker 2: I got until I was in my thirties. It was

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Speaker 2: and music I thought was meant to I always say

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Speaker 2: it this way. Some music's meant to be heard and

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Speaker 2: some music's meant to be felt. And when I was young,

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Speaker 2: I got hyper focused on the feeling of music and

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Speaker 2: how music made people feel, and how constant and present

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Speaker 2: it always was in our lives.

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Speaker 4: Okay, describe to me how it feels when you know

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Speaker 3: I would think that I would hope.

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Speaker 2: My mission statement for my music is to hope that

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to write songs for the people that

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Speaker 3: You know, and I lived in a certain culture. Drugs.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of a lot of addiction, a

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Speaker 2: And I feel like nobody was really writing songs for

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Speaker 4: All Right, I'm going to quote you now you've said,

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Speaker 4: and I quote, I make music for people, not money.

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Speaker 4: Can you please elaborate on that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, the first, the biggest joke I make is if

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Speaker 3: You know, I sure didn't get it until it's two

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Speaker 2: To me, music was purpose, and as long as my

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Speaker 4: That is such a beautiful sentiment. What is it about

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Speaker 2: Do you think I think music vocalizes what we often

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Speaker 2: It's a comforting thing. It's a it's a moment of

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when Adelle said, they said times supposed to heal you,

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Speaker 2: but I ain't done much healing in the song Hello,

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Speaker 2: I still get goosebumps on my legs just saying that lyric.

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Speaker 4: I have goosebumps hearing you say that lyric.

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Speaker 2: You know it's these moments of that you that music

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Speaker 4: It really is incredible. It's physical. The reaction. Now, this

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Speaker 4: a tragic death. What is that experience like for you?

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Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a double edged sword. You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm very I'm an impath, so I feel I feel

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Speaker 2: the pain of people, and that weighs on me at times.

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Speaker 2: But it's also a blessing because God put me in

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Speaker 2: and I'll never complain. The joke I make about the

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Speaker 4: So expand on this for me, How music fused with religion,

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Speaker 4: Why it's such a powerful combination.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's hopeful, right, absolutely, so. I think

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Speaker 2: Music allows me an opportunity to speak about my faith

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Speaker 3: And when you let God in it, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: undeniabl right when anytime you let the spirit get into

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Speaker 2: And there are there's a lot of people who believe that,

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Speaker 4: What do you feel that people really need to understand,

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing they need to understand is

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Speaker 2: that those people need help. I think that we get

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Speaker 2: need voices, they need encouragement, you know. I think that's

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Speaker 2: a reason, ironically, to go back to the Bible. Jesus's

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Speaker 2: in time, there was an understanding of that people in

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Speaker 2: So I just try to carry that message to people today.

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Speaker 2: it's really easy to go to a function and donate money,

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Speaker 2: and that helps a lot, you know, does. But I

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Speaker 4: We live today in such a divided world. How can

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Speaker 4: music minimize that dividedness? Is that even a world?

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Speaker 2: I tell you this man, Music brings everybody together. It

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Speaker 2: always has and it always will music is It's like dinner.

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Speaker 2: It's like a suffer table thing, right, It's what brings

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Speaker 3: I have seen.

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Speaker 2: Hardcore conservatives and hardcore democrats crying in each other's arms

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Speaker 2: international language. And I think music speaks to pain more

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Speaker 2: when you're going through something like that in life, you

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Speaker 2: start to realize how much that other shit don't matter,

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Speaker 2: you know, and it's just a real clear understanding. And

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Speaker 2: I think music brings that to a surface level with people,

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Speaker 2: and it goes back to the common bond theory, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's a My brother's a big

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Speaker 3: You to at least initially like you. You know what

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you got a foot in

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Speaker 2: it's like, I think it's cool when you see cultures

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Speaker 3: Just tickles me. Pink.

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Speaker 2: I love it, you know what I mean, because I'm

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Speaker 3: Man, music does say. I think how many.

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Speaker 2: Times we find those moments right where you're just like,

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Speaker 3: That's so cool, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Never judge a book by its cover. What would you

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Speaker 4: say would be your proudest accomplishment in music or what

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Speaker 2: I think the thing I'm the most proud of is

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Speaker 2: believe that my music is helping people. Believing that the

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Speaker 2: I think that's something else I'm proud of is that

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Speaker 2: I'm proud that I was lucky enough to come in

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Speaker 2: the streaming era where the music will live there for infinity,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And that I love that

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Speaker 2: I'm alive during the streaming era and I don't have

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Speaker 2: to go rebuy the Bob Seeker and the Bullet Band

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Speaker 2: Silver Bullet Band album for the thirtieth time because I've

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Speaker 2: scratched the other twenty nine or lost them switching cars.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad that I can just go listen

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Speaker 2: to Beautiful Loser whenever I want to.

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Speaker 3: You know that is so true.

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Speaker 4: You can take it with you everywhere. Now you don't

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Speaker 4: have to worry about anything. Let's hear from jelly Rolls

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Speaker 4: fans certainly has a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Jelly roll seems to be able to hit a lot

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Speaker 1: to the common person. Thankfully, he's as an artist has

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Speaker 1: recognize that he puts his heart into it and he

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Speaker 1: says what he needs to say, and he's real.

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Speaker 3: He's genuine.

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Speaker 5: For me personally, I think it's a great collaboration of

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Speaker 5: reach like it touches different kinds of music that I've

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Speaker 5: liked through the years. Everything that he's been through holds

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Speaker 5: so many stigmas in the public eye, and opening up

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Speaker 4: Now, you've done a lot of different music in your time,

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Speaker 4: do you remember the first time you wrapped.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 2: My mother struggled with mental health and addiction stuff, right,

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Speaker 2: and she'd come to the kitchen and the whole house

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Speaker 2: would come. We'd listen to music. And now I realized

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Speaker 2: this makes mom happy. I should go write music, right,

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Speaker 2: So I went upstairs and I wrote a rap because

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Speaker 2: hip hop was super influential in our culture, and I

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Speaker 2: was I went downstairs with my little sheet of paper

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Speaker 2: and she had all of her friends at the kitchen table.

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Speaker 2: I called them the golden girls, like six or seven mother,

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Speaker 2: and they'd all come to the kitchen table together. They

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Speaker 2: just changed smoked cigarettes. And I came down. She turned

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Speaker 2: the record off and said what you got. I said,

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Speaker 2: listen to this, and I held my little sheet of

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Speaker 2: paper up and I was shaking the whole time, and

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Speaker 2: I wrapped her a little rap. And I was probably

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Speaker 2: twelve years old. Eleven years old.

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Speaker 3: I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I just remember that feeling of everybody cheering me on

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Speaker 2: and telling me to go write another one, And in hindsight,

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Speaker 2: they were just trying to get rid of me.

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Speaker 3: That's how we do kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, go write another one of those.

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Speaker 4: That is so cool. Thank you so much. This has

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Speaker 4: been just an amazing few minutes to spend with an

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Speaker 4: amazing artist and person. We have just heard the authentic

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Speaker 4: story of an incredible storyteller and someone who truly honors

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Speaker 4: the impact of music in all of our lives. Jelly

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Speaker 4: Roll is on a mission to spread the good words

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Speaker 4: of his music and make a real difference in the world,

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Speaker 4: and I think he's doing just that. I'm Lyn Hoffman

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Speaker 4: and thank you so much for listening to this episode

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Speaker 4: of Music Saved Me.