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Speaker 1: The trade deadline is over. And I think from a

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Speaker 1: maybe even more than that. I think it's like twenty

425
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Speaker 1: eight twenty nine million dollars a year. But it sucks.

426
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Speaker 1: When you're an athlete, especially a football player in the

427
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: prime of your career at wide receiver, it just doesn't

428
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: last forever. Right, he doesn't have ten more years playing

429
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: at this level. Hell, he might not have five more

430
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: years left playing at this level. So every year that

431
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Speaker 1: you waste playing on a team that can't even begin

432
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: to get you the football has no chance to win

433
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: when you signed up for that, to me feels crazy.

434
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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings, I respect it. I think they had

435
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: a couple options, right, they go the guys on the street.

436
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: They could call up Carson Wentz, they could call up

437
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan in the booth. Doesn't make any sense. Those

438
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: guys have been on ice all season. They didn't have

439
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: an offseason. They haven't been anywhere in training camp both

440
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: obviously Matt Ryan shot Carson Wentz. I don't care how

441
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: many routes he throws in the morning wherever he's living

442
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: right now. It's not the same as the NFL. They

443
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: could have sniffed around the backup quarterback players right the

444
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's just look around the NFL. But those guys

445
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: haven't been playing, so you'd be taking a guy who

446
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: hasn't played any snaps and just inserting them on a

447
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: team who has a pretty good shot at competing for

448
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: a wild card. Or they could do what they did

449
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: and they got Joshua Dobbs. Who Listen, we can debate

450
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: all day long. Is he any good? Was his production

451
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: early in the season a little overrated? Listen, he's proven

452
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: a couple things. You can throw them in to a

453
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: shit sandwich and he can attempt to make a chicken salad.

454
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: Because you watched him early season. That team is not

455
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: very talented and he was just have them competing last year.

456
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: When he goes to the Titans at the end of

457
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: the season, just a debacle quarterback situation comes in to me.

458
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: His greatest strength beside everyone says super high character guy,

459
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: Well liked leader is he's very adaptable. Like, I don't

460
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Speaker 1: know about you, but I'm not that adaptable always. It

461
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: takes me a minute. I can't do it at the

462
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: snap of the finger. I've actually really really worked interpersonally

463
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: on being more just open minded to just things right

464
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: when something happens, being able to pivot. You can't operate

465
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Speaker 1: on a daily basis, like you're a fucking marine in

466
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Speaker 1: normal society, every minute you know exactly what you're gonna do.

467
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: That's not how the world works. And a lot of

468
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Speaker 1: football players, because football is very regimented, don't pivot and

469
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: don't change very easily. Coaches are like that. They do

470
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: not adapt that well on the fly. It's hard, it

471
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: is very difficult. But this guy has proven that you

472
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: can just throw him into a situation that's not ideal,

473
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: that is undermanned, and he can just figure out a

474
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Speaker 1: way to at least look competent and have the team

475
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: kind of moving in the right direction. We see over

476
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: and over and over again you put these like backup

477
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: level players even when they've been playing. It's like, yeah,

478
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: this can't go on right this You're seeing it with

479
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, who is proven he's a backup quarterback, and

480
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that Baker. It's why when Colin

481
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: had that, you know, his off season or like during August,

482
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: he thought Baker should just retire. I'm like, no matter

483
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: what he does in the pros, it'll never hurt his brand.

484
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: Once he works for Fox doing college football RG III

485
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: was an embarrassment. He's calling games now. Matt Lioner is

486
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: an all time bust. He's like one of the stars

487
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: of the network. None of that shit, Brady Quinn impacts

488
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: what you did in the NFL on your brand off

489
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: the field, especially you deal with college right, and when

490
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: you look at at Joshua Dobbs, like you look at

491
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: some of these guys, I would have gone with him too.

492
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't cost much, Right, You're not just gonna roll

493
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Speaker 1: with the rookie full time. It's too risky, Like you

494
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: don't want to just wave the white flag on the season.

495
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: But you also have to kind of come to grips

496
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Speaker 1: with it's not worth trying to maybe overpay for a guy.

497
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: I think they essentially they traded a six for Dobbs

498
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: in a seventh, Like that's an easy deal when your

499
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: quarterback is currently in a hospital bed with a torn

500
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: achilles And like I said on yesterday's podcast, that is

501
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: gonna have major rippleffecks in the NFL, not just on

502
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota in their franchise, but the countless other teams that

503
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: would have been very, very interested in signing Kirk Cousins

504
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: this offseason. I have said, Atlanta, I think Green Bay Packers.

505
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams will have snipped around

506
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: just because if you get Kirk Cousins, like you can

507
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: just make the playoffs. And there's something to be said

508
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: about being a playoff team. Why your state full people

509
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: are talking about you. You are just relevant. When you're

510
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: just a five or six win team, nobody cares about you.

511
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: Think about when you're watching a game on the weekend

512
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: and you get two teams, especially as the season goes on,

513
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: that are like two and eight verse three and seven,

514
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: You're not likely to give that game much time. It's

515
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: just not worth it, right. He's just like, I'll watch

516
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: two playoff teams, or I'll watch a playoff team against

517
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: a random team. I respect Minnesota because everyone, probably including myself,

518
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: thought they were just gonna take the season. Cousins refuse

519
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: to let that happen, and then he goes down and

520
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: they're still trying. And that's I think a separating factor

521
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL than a lot of these other sports

522
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: where tanking is just really invoke. And I got news

523
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: for you. As a fan, that's what I am first.

524
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of sports. Tanking has a lot of

525
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: just negative ramifications. The NBA is greatly diminished over the

526
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: last ten years. They've lost so much of their audience.

527
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Speaker 1: You ask the casual, you know, just sports fan, I

528
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: would say they're kind of down on it. And I

529
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: think a huge reason has to do with tanking, which

530
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: has ultimately kind of led to this resting. They're all

531
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: kind of intertwined, and the NFL doesn't have to battle that,

532
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: and even teams that like it would be understandable if

533
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: Minnesota just had a fire sale today, but they go

534
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: the other way. They're like, we're gonna try to compete

535
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Speaker 1: for the next month and see what happens. Respect it.

536
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: A couple other little trades. The Bills trade for Rasul Douglas.

537
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: They obviously needed defensive help. They lose White for the season.

538
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: I think he tears achilles or acl I forget the

539
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: exact injury but that's a pretty easy trade. I think

540
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: they get Douglas in a fifth and they trade a third.

541
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Speaker 1: You know, the Bills are a fascinating team. Is this

542
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: team still a super Bowl contender? With the injuries that

543
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: they have on defense, it's hard to tell. They obviously

544
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: have a super Bowl level I know he has to

545
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: prove it, but the talent's there to be a super

546
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: Bowl level quarterback. And offensively, when they're on, their firepower

547
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: is definitely there. But defensively, you saw early in the

548
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: season when they played Miami, ceiling was really high. Their

549
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: ceiling was as high as any team in the league,

550
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: including Philly, including the Niners, including the Chiefs, including the Ravens.

551
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: We saw him play the Dolphins, and they curb stomped him.

552
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: That ceiling is not quite the same. Once you lose

553
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: a star corner and you lose a star linebacker, especially

554
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: when you lose a star middle linebacker, it's a lot

555
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: like losing a catcher or something in baseball. It's not

556
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: just the guy as a productive player makes a lot

557
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: of tackles, can cover. It's like he kind of gets

558
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: everyone set up, he calms everyone down. Part of when

559
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 1: you get these miked up segments in football, and you

560
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: see the huddle, it's more sometimes than just calling to

561
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: play right whatever razor left? Foxtrot? Why stick left? Razor right?

562
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: You say that and then like hey guys, let's take

563
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: a deep breath. We're fine, or you just the quarterback

564
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: looks at the wide receiver after a drop like James,

565
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: we're good, bro, keep your head up. I'm fine. I'm

566
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna come right back to you. Right. There's an there's

567
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: a confidence attribute that the green dot guy, the quarter

568
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and the middle linebacker bring to the table. And losing Milano,

569
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: who obviously is a fantastic player, it's just it's very,

570
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: very difficult. It's why we saw for years when Keith

571
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: Lee would go out. I'm not saying he's as good

572
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: as Keith Lee, but like if Fred Warner went out

573
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: for the Niners, that they would be screwed. So he's

574
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: essentially their number two quarterback. He just happens to play

575
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Speaker 1: on defense with his leadership, with his communication, and I'm

576
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Speaker 1: just I'm rooting for I'm a Josh Allen fan. I've

577
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Speaker 1: known Sean McDermott for a long time. I'm rooting for

578
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: that franchise. I love the fan base. I love how

579
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Speaker 1: much people care about football. They're just gonna be a

580
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: fascinating case study. Are they just gonna be like a

581
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: one and done this year or are they just gonna

582
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Speaker 1: be a legit contender. I think we'll learn a lot

583
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Speaker 1: about them over the next month, and I think it's

584
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna start with they need Josh Allen to go nuclear.

585
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: They need him to go you know Tom Brady what

586
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger did kind of in his peak Peyton Manning like,

587
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm the best fucking player in the league. That's how

588
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: they need him to be ninety percent of the time,

589
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Speaker 1: right if they want to get to win the division,

590
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: if they want to compete in the playoffs, it's gonna

591
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: It's always started and ended with him, but he had

592
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt win. His defense was a

593
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: little better. Now to me, the margin is much smaller.

594
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Speaker 1: The Jags get Ezra Cleveland, I'd be lying if I

595
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: have a scattering report on him. Clearly he's just a

596
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: plug and play starter or a guard you look for

597
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: offensive line help. That's a little move Minnesota made, probably

598
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: because they knew they weren't going to resign him. But

599
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: I think the Jags a lot like the Bills like that.

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Speaker 1: That's think about those two teams right coming into the

601
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: season in the AFC. I always picked the Kansas Ey

602
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs until they've proven otherwise. I think even if you

603
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: didn't have the Bengals right behind him, you watch the

604
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: Bengals last week or like they should be right behind him.

605
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: The Ravens are playing well. The Bills like you would

606
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: have had kind of that group, and I don't think

607
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Speaker 1: you would have had the Jags in it right kind

608
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: of one not a one hit wonder, because they do

609
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: have a young nucleus and a really good young quarterback

610
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl winning coach. But you went like, I

611
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: think the Jags could be most normal people picked them

612
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: to win the division, and it was like, I think

613
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: the Jags would be good. Now you look up there

614
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: six and two. They just went into Pittsburgh and game

615
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: and won a grimy level game that like the Ravens

616
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: and the Steelers and the Bengals win, they win if

617
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: they can play like that, like you gotta put them

618
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: in the Bills Chiefs, like is this team to be

619
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: reckoned with? They're on a bye, they're playing the forty

620
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: nine ers coming off of bye that's a massive game

621
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Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. Maybe the forty nine ers

622
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Speaker 1: coming off of bye. I think we might have to

623
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Speaker 1: start talking about the Jags is like, I don't want

624
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: to say super Bowl contenders, but definitely in the AFC

625
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Championship mix. I mean they might be a game or

626
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: two away from being like, yeah, maybe this team could

627
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: compete to win the Super Bowl. Other than that trade deadline, Man,

628
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: it's a lot of hype. We still you gotta be

629
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: on your toes unlike you know, ten twenty years ago,

630
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: because of the aggressive gms in the NFL now, which

631
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: is enjoyable before forever. A move here, a move there now,

632
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: even when it's quote unquote underwhelming or doesn't quite live

633
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: up to the hype, you have to be ready. And

634
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: kudos to all these young aggressive gms you know in

635
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: their forties, in their early fifties, that are just willing

636
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Speaker 1: to try things, willing to take big swings, willing to

637
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Speaker 1: do deals. It makes the league more entertaining. I want

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Speaker 1: to tell you something about my friends at uber eats.

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Speaker 1: It's time for this week's player I thought might give

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Speaker 1: almost almost anything to redo his game. Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Uber Eats now, I don't think we're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: a player that would redo his game from last weekend,

643
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: which would be easy. I think Purty would like some

644
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: of those picks back. Obviously PJ. Walker would like a

645
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: pass back. I think this is the players. Look at

646
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Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, who was given the right to explore trade

647
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: and the best part about the NFL, Like when you

648
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: see the NBA, I want to be traded. That guy

649
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: always gets traded. It's just kind of baffling sometimes, like

650
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: what you don't why are you doing this? Like just

651
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: play it out, Like the player doesn't have all the control.

652
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's the complete oppos like I want

653
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Speaker 1: to trade, Yeah, go seek and if you don't come

654
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: back with anything, we remotely like we're just gonna hang

655
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: up the phone. You're gonna be a practice tomorrow. And

656
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: that's what happens with guys like Jalen Johnson, like I

657
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: want to trade, you're not paying me enough, Like okay, yeah,

658
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: we'll see a practice on Wednesday. That always happens, and

659
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: I at least respect them being open minded to trade.

660
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: The guy I do not understand, and I know he

661
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: had a really good game the other day. It's not

662
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: like Dereck Henry's going to be on this team long.

663
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: It's not like Saquon Barkley is going to be on

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Speaker 1: this team. I would be stunned for the next four

665
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: or five years. Why would you not entertain trading these players?

666
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: And I think the hard part is and this is

667
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: where owners get involved those two players, For examp, like

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Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, Ultimately he was traded or not. Today, Bears

669
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Speaker 1: fans would forget about him in three weeks. I like

670
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: the player. I'm rooting for the player. He's from. He's

671
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a valley guy California, but you went to Utah. It's

672
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Speaker 1: not Deon Sanders. But I think when you get Dereck Henry,

673
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: who is just let's face it might get a statue

674
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: built out in front of their new stadium, and Saquon Barkley,

675
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: who the owner's view is like the Eli Manning of

676
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: running backs for their team. It's very, very difficult to

677
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: trade a guy, especially when you're having a down season

678
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: that helps get butts in the seats that help keep

679
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: your team, and when you're going to these luncheons and

680
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: these rich people parties, that's who they talk about. And

681
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: I think sometimes that can be a mistake. And I

682
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: just wonder if some of these teams like Titans, get

683
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: their butt kicked on Thursday, is that something you regret?

684
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: And I understand, Like what, we're just gonna trade them

685
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Speaker 1: for a you know, a force that could turn into

686
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Speaker 1: a third. What's the point of that. We might as

687
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: well just keep them. Look, you're gotta let them walk

688
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: for nothing. It's like anyone's gonna pay him. I would

689
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: always And the Rams are a good example. You know.

690
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: It was almost almost like, oh, the Rams actually are

691
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: pretty good. Actually they stink. They're really not very good.

692
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Speaker 1: And now Stafford is injured, and the quarterback that they

693
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Speaker 1: drafted in the fourth or fifth round sets in Bennett

694
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: who knows where he is, so you're not gonna win

695
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: any games. And Aaron Donald, of all these players, It's

696
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: why last week I predicted a player would go for

697
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: a first round pick, because I thought a name like

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Speaker 1: him on a team that kind of clearly came to

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: grips with, Yeah, we're not that good. Give us a one,

700
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Speaker 1: two twos and a three. I mean something. I don't

701
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: think Aaron Donald at thirty two gets you multiple ones,

702
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: but he definitely gets you a one and more and

703
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: for a team that is clearly hitting the reset button,

704
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: who's more likely to draft tenth than they are eighteenth.

705
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I just think that might have been the right move.

706
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: They have multiple first round picks to be able to

707
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Speaker 1: reset your franchise to get the money off the books.

708
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: But again, like I said, with those other players, a

709
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: lot like the owners, is just very hard to trade

710
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Speaker 1: your most famous player, the player that when you walk

711
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: into the stadium is on all the billboards, the player

712
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: who more than likely is gonna go like Derrick Henry

713
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: and definitely Aaron Donald, go into the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: wearing your jersey. But that's what makes good gms, and

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Speaker 1: that what makes average gms and owners right, Belichick Walsh

716
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Speaker 1: like they were willing to do stuff like that. Hew

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid traded Tyreek Hill last year and then won

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Speaker 1: the freaking Super Bowl. It helped change their franchise making

719
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Speaker 1: that trade. And I know it was the off season,

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Speaker 1: it's different in the middle of the season, but still

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Speaker 1: let's do a little mailbag and here's the drill at

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Speaker 1: John middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my bald brother, listen to your latest pod. Had a thought?

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Speaker 1: What betting apps do you use? I mean, come on, DraftKings, Baby,

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Speaker 1: a sportsbook. Excuse me, not a casino right down the

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Speaker 1: street from my house. So I've been a loyal Draft

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Speaker 1: we pivoted from the former one two DraftKings. Love DraftKings,

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Speaker 1: So download the DraftKings at promoko John. If the Bears

753
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Speaker 1: end up with two top picks in the draft, should

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00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: they draft Caleb Williams and Drake May. They have never

755
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: had a franchise quarterback. We did this a couple of

756
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: years ago, I think when the Browns had picked one

757
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: and four. You can't do that. This is not an option.

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00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: So you know, you just take whoever your favorite quarterback

759
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: is out of those two guys. And there's more and

760
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: more buzz out there that it's not just some guaranteed

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, even though I've talked to a couple guys,

762
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: I still think he's clearly the top prospect. But regardless,

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00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: take your favorite quarterback and then either use that pick

764
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 1: to trade back a couple spots and gain even more picks,

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00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: especially neither you lost your second round pick for sweat

766
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: or just I don't know. Pick the sweetest player. Marvin Harrison,

767
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman, an offensive lineman. You can do a lot.

768
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Speaker 1: I know you don't talk awards too much, but I

769
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Speaker 1: have an interesting hypothetical concerning comeback Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Save by some miracle of science, Rogers come back and

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00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: plays at at least some snaps at the end of

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00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: the season, would he be a lock to win the award? Well,

773
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Speaker 1: what is the definition of comeback Player of the Year award?

774
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: To me? Obviously, Alex Smith is a good example. As

775
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 1: long as he took a snap, given that his leg

776
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: almost fell off and they had to amputate it, he

777
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: was gonna get it. To me, Damar almost died on

778
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Speaker 1: the field and came back. If he plays in games,

779
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna get it. If you just have an injury

780
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: and you just attacked the rehab of a non Alex

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00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Smith injury like I, you know, rip my elbow up

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Speaker 1: or tara knee or an achilles, Does that just automatically

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Speaker 1: give you the comeback Player of the Year, because ideally,

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00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: I think on a given year without Damar for example,

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00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: or Alex Smith, it's just a player who's either gone

786
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: through a lot of shit. Tua would be a good example.

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00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: If Tua plays every game this year and they win

788
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: the division, you could easily give it to him, or

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00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: a player that has a bad injury and then comes

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00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: back from injury and then plays well. Like That's how

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00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: I think about it, Like Adrian Peterson, Tara's ACL comes

792
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: back two thousand yards, MVP, come back to Player of

793
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: the Year. Give it to them all. So I think

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Speaker 1: it all depends on how we view it. Question for

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Speaker 1: your mailback, why is Caleb Williams so douchey? Is that

796
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: a West Coast vibe? Isn't Caleb Williams from Washington, d C.

797
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Didn't he? Okay? West Coast? He just plays a couple

798
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: of years in the West Coast. He's not a West

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Speaker 1: Coast guy. To me, when I think West Coast quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I think Rogers, Mark Sanchez, Matt Lyonert, you know, Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: California guy, Derek carrs California guy. I'd say they're a

802
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: little more laid back. Caleb is much more to me

803
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: a different part of the country. He feels very dc

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, With Kirk cousins injury, do

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Speaker 1: you think the forty nine Ers could be a possible suitor.

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00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: A lot of the franchises that would have been interested

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Speaker 1: are teams that are or have been bad and have

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Speaker 1: cap space. The forty nine Ers are just an elite

809
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Speaker 1: or top twelve quarterback away from being dominant. With Purty

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Speaker 1: struggling if he continues to throw picks, could the Niners

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Speaker 1: take a flyer on Cousins this summer win win? In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, Kyle loves the guy. They could get him

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Speaker 1: on a cheaper deal, so he's likely in their budget

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Speaker 1: now with the injury, and if he comes back and

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Speaker 1: isn't the same, they still have an okay quarterback and Purty. Cousins'

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Speaker 1: best possible chance of winning a Super Bowl probably with

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. I agree to me. The only

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Speaker 1: way Cousins on an injury comes to the forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers would be a very very cheap deal, you know,

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Speaker 1: under seven eight million dollars, right, assuming party just is solid, right,

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Speaker 1: not as bad as he was at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game. Remember he threw for three hundred fifty yards

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Speaker 1: like he actually wasn't as bad like you watch some

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Speaker 1: of this crappy quarterback play that wasn't really perty Me

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00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: had nine to twenty plus yard passes. Now, the picks

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00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: are inexcusable and they'll lose your games. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think they would sign Cousins to a lot of money

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Speaker 1: coming off in Achilles now, like you said, if they

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Speaker 1: can get him cheap, then I think they're all over

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Speaker 1: that business. Okay, let's get to Steve. If the Niners

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Speaker 1: fire Wilkes, would that be a smart decision or should

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00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: they just wait until the season ends. Well, I think

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00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: they're kind of stuck because they don't have anyone else

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Speaker 1: on their staff they can just take over. So part

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Speaker 1: of firing a coordinator is having a guy that can

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Speaker 1: take over his gig. Right when Frank for example, demoted

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Speaker 1: himself and gave it to Thomas Brown, he had a coordinator.

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Speaker 1: If they fired Steve Wilkes, I don't think they have

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Speaker 1: other options now. Richard Sherman saying some stuff about part

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Speaker 1: of what made the Niners good is they ran a

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00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: lot of zone coverage. Their two linebackers can cover in

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00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: the middle, and their defensive line just chase the quarterback. Well,

843
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: now he's blitzing all the time, he's doing stunts and twists,

844
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Speaker 1: he's running a lot of man He's just doing what

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Speaker 1: the team doesn't do well. And this is a huge

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00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: part of football. This is why, in why I feel

847
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: so comfortable talking about coaches because from a scouting perspective

848
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: a GM from an office perspective, a lot of coaches

849
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: screw up players. Now, I'm not saying that every player

850
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: drafted can play, but a lot of times the scheme

851
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: instead of adapting your scheme to what your players do well,

852
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: or forcing your scheme on a player, has bad results.

853
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: It's why we see so often a coach come in

854
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: and the team immediately is better or worse. Coaches, no

855
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: sport has a bigger impact when it comes to coaches

856
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: on the success of players. I'm a longtime Charger fan

857
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: based in Mexico City. Who would you bring instead of Staley?

858
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Name your three best candidates. Would you blow it up,

859
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: trade all the expensive, non impact players like mac and Bosa,

860
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: Would you try to get rid of Telesco? And who

861
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: would you replace him with? Well, I would say, Dean

862
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: Spanles's history is not Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh. He

863
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to fire Brandon Day last year and

864
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: hire Sean Payton, didn't do it too much for him.

865
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: So this notion that Jim Harbaugh is going to go

866
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: to the Chargers based on his history, you would say,

867
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: no chance he is going to hire. Let's just pick

868
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: the best coordinator right now. The dude in Detroit was

869
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: his name, Ben Johnson Wright. Whoever the next Shane steike

870
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: In McVeigh Kyle is. I would put my money on

871
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: them hiring that guy. Hell, what if he really likes

872
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Just named Kellen Moore the head coach. I

873
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: would say it's more likely them doing that than them

874
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: paying Jim Harbaugh, or you know, if Belichick's fired, them

875
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: hiring Belichick. So to me, the candidates are just the coordinators.

876
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Whoever the best coordinator is, including the guy that they

877
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: just hired in Kellen Moore, maybe Dan Quinn. But would

878
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: you hire another defensive guy with Justin Herbert? Probably not

879
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: to me. To LESCo, I think he's pretty good at

880
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: his job. But here's the problem. He's already got several coaches, like,

881
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: how many coaches do you usually get? Now? Maybe they

882
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: just really like them, they feel comfortable with them, and

883
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: they keep rolling. Okay, huge fan, love your authenticity and

884
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: ability to call things the way they are. My question

885
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: for the pod is about the greatest. They looked absolutely

886
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: abysmal there last night, and the fact that this was

887
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: their third or fourth primetime game this season is ridiculous.

888
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: They're probably the worst team I've seen in ten plus

889
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: years of watching football. How do you think they should

890
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: go about business at the trade deadline? Well, obviously they

891
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: didn't really trade anybody. I just think that they are

892
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: going nowhere fast. And I'll defend Mark on this, And

893
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mentioned this the other when

894
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: he had to hire Josh McDaniels, it wasn't his plan

895
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: to go into a coaching search, right the Grooden emails leaked,

896
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: the league fucked them, and he was forced to fire

897
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: him in the middle of the season, meaning they were

898
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna need another head coach. And for as fun as

899
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Rich Pasacia was, I understand not hiring Rich as your

900
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: head coach, and honestly, Josh on paper made some sense,

901
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: but I went on Gottleib's radio show earlier today, and

902
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: I mentioned this the other day. These new England guys

903
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: show their true colors so fast as coaches. We saw

904
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: it with Patricia, we saw it with Judge. You're seeing

905
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: it again with Josh. Like you know right away, I

906
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: don't see it at all. I don't even see signs

907
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: of life. Think about this. Brandon Staley showed quicker signs

908
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: of life than this guy. There's no signs of life.

909
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: So I just think they got a major, major coaching problem.

910
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: It's just gonna come down to this offseason. Is he

911
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: willing Because listen, if you owned a team with me

912
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: and we were I was, let's just say I'm the

913
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: majority owner and in pro sports that guy is the owner.

914
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: But if you're a minority guy, you know you own

915
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the team. But I lean on you,

916
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: like we talk a lot. We're very close when it

917
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: comes to decisions. And we're sitting there and we go

918
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: can we go on like this because we don't want

919
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: to do coaching searches. That's not fun. That means you

920
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: have a major problem, right, So when you have a

921
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: coaching search means you're basically starting over again. Starting over sucks.

922
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: I think you want anyone that's broken up or got

923
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: a divorce. Like dating is, it's way more fun in

924
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: theory than it is in reality. I don't care how

925
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: many apps are out there, how many friends introduce you

926
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: to people. It's it's exhausting. Well, coaching searches are no different.

927
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: The difference is it's really really expensive. Hell, dating with

928
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: inflation's expensive, but coaching searches and then hiring a guy

929
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: and then hiring a GM, it's just something you want

930
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: to avoid. So I think it's why a lot of

931
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: teams write it out a year two too long, because

932
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: they don't want to do that. I just think, if

933
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: this team ends up winning five games and it's not

934
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: even about the wins and loss, just watch them play,

935
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean that they are abysmal. If you remove Crosby

936
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: and Devonte getting open with ease, they stink. There's a

937
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: Raider fan diehard from Australia listen to your podcast on

938
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: the way to work. Question is obviously Jimmy g is

939
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: in the long term or even short term answer for

940
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: this team. So what is the benefit of continuing to

941
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: put him out there week after week just to experience

942
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: the same ineptitude. Not that I'm a fan of McDaniels

943
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: in the slightest, but if i'm him, surely you try

944
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: to start O'Connell. He mentioned this the other day. He said, guys,

945
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: this isn't preseason anymore, which is true, which is fine,

946
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: And this is the problem that front office people have

947
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: with coaches. Okay, no shit, it's not preseason, Josh, But

948
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo right now in twenty twenty three, at the

949
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: end of October early November is gonna get us beat

950
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: no matter who we play, and he's probably not gonna

951
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: be on the team next year, So what's the point

952
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: of doing any of this. We might as well see, yeah,

953
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: it's not preseason, and this guy might We're losing anyway,

954
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: so at least see if you have something an asset,

955
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback that you feel comfortable keeping as your backup.

956
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Keeping a veteran player who's not gonna be your starting

957
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: quarterback who's playing poorly makes no sense. It's why Derek

958
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Carr got sent home last year. It's like, bro, you're

959
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: not gonna be on the team next year. And they

960
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: went with what's his name? Stidham, who, ironically they didn't

961
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: even end up resigning. I don't understand why NFL punters

962
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: always try to pin the team inside the five yard

963
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: line in the middle of the field. To me, it

964
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: seems like eighty percent of the time they kick it

965
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: into the end zone for a touchback. Why don't they

966
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: aim for the sideline when trying to pin them around

967
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: the five missing something? Uh, that's a good question. I

968
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: don't pretend to be a special team's expert, though. When

969
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: I worked in football, I spent a lot of tea

970
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: time around special teams coaches and the special teams unit.

971
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: I do think a lot of the punters I was

972
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: around try to do the Ozzie end over end punt

973
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: when they're you know, fifty and in and they're trying

974
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: to pin the team to the corners. I'm in complete agreement.

975
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would do that to the

976
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: middle of the field. Now, sometimes if a rush is

977
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: coming off, you don't necessarily have a choice, so you

978
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: just kind of kick it and get the ball off

979
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: your foot. But I'm with you, I don't understand just

980
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: kicking it down the middle of the field. Also, I'd

981
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: like you to invite you to my golf club in Austin,

982
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: Texas for a round Spanish Oak Golf Club. My man

983
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: Craig is living well here. Hey middle Cough, can you

984
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: send me that video of you saying if you draft

985
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: a kicker in the third round and can't make a kick,

986
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: you got a real fucking problem. That's better. If you're

987
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: gonna draft a kicker, he better make kicks. Hey, John,

988
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: very long time listener and first time dmmer, lifelong Patriot fan,

989
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: and seeing how we just resigned Belichick, mac Jones is

990
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: a joke and will inevitably just run it back next

991
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: year with the same shitty team. Plus the wrong draft

992
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: pick Bill makes that doesn't help the offense. I like

993
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: to have my question be about the Bears, specifically their

994
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: future decision of being most likely able to draft Caleb

995
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: with the first pick. Does it make sense for Chicago

996
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: to not only draft Caleb but also try to lure

997
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: Lincoln to take the head coaching job. I would bet

998
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to coach a quarterback of

999
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: his caliber. Again, Matt mispronounced Eberflus with a winkie face.

1000
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: I said it right. Is simply not a good head

1001
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: coach and the most likely also have another top five

1002
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: pick for a skill guy or one of the top

1003
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: o line edge rushers to accelerate their rebuild. I know

1004
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: the jump from college in the NFL isn't necessarily easy

1005
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: for coaches, but wouldn't that at least show Bears fans

1006
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: that Poles is trying to turn their fortunes around. I

1007
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: went on this rant a couple weeks ago that when

1008
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: Harball was hired one he had played in the NFL

1009
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: for a long time and his defensive coordinator was a

1010
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: former NFL coach, not a head coach, but fanjo had

1011
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: coached in the NFL for a while. When Chip Kelly

1012
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: came to the NFL, his downfall turned out to be one.

1013
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: His offense didn't really change, but to his defensive staff

1014
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: was terrible. He did not know defensive coaches. Pete Carroll

1015
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: think about him when he made the transition to the NFL.

1016
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: He was a former NFL coach multiple franchises and basically

1017
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: ran an NFL program at USC defensively, so, yeah, Lincoln

1018
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: and the quarterback know each other. The cow Bears, who

1019
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: are fucking terrible, just scored forty nine points against USC.

1020
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: Now I understand USC in twenty twenty three is not

1021
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: the six Trojans. Come on, cal is scoring forty nine

1022
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: points against you. I do not think Lincoln Riley is

1023
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: a very good NFL coaching candidate. First, zero experience in

1024
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: the NFL. Zero as a coacher, player has never worked

1025
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Two does not value defense. So when

1026
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: you think about those two, no experience doesn't value defense.

1027
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: To me, those are just two huge red flags. Think

1028
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: about some of these guys that had no NFL experience,

1029
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: like Chip Kelly was kind of run out of the NFL.

1030
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer did not make it through the season. You

1031
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: know what both those two guys have in common. They

1032
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: had never worked in the league. Now, Chip was better

1033
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: with players than Urban was. He's the worst case scenario Spurrier,

1034
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: and he actually played in the NFL. Obviously, it was

1035
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: a different game, probably in the seventies than when he

1036
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: coached in the whatever it was the late nineties or

1037
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: early two thousands. But still, so I hear what you're saying.

1038
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a crazy thing to talk about,

1039
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: but I also think it doesn't work. So I would

1040
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: say if I was the Bears, I would not hire

1041
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. Cowboys fan here I'm a huge fan of

1042
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: the tush push, even though our rival is the one

1043
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: who has mastered it. If other teams in the league

1044
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: have a problem with it, why don't they figure out

1045
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: a way to do it. Obviously, no other quarterback in

1046
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: the league has the leg strength of Jalen, But why

1047
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: not put a defensive end under center to try and

1048
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: do the same thing. I think part of the problem

1049
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: is Jalen's ability, because he's a quarterback, to naturally get

1050
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: low while holding the ball, like the problem with taking

1051
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman or an offensive lineman doing that. You

1052
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: would not feel good about ball security. Right If you

1053
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: ever just played catch with a guy like a Division

1054
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: two college wide receiver or like a really good high

1055
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: school player wide receiver or a quarterback or whatever, their

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Speaker 1: feel for the ball is pretty natural. Right. It's like

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Speaker 1: if you go to a basketball gym and you watch

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Speaker 1: the former point guard dribble around, he's like, God, he's

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Speaker 1: got a good handle. Then you watch the dude that

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Speaker 1: walks in the gym, that's six 's eight. They played

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Speaker 1: power forward at some college, not a great dribbler. Well,

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Speaker 1: who do you want bringing the ball up the court?

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Speaker 1: The point guard? Who do you want holding the ball

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Speaker 1: the quarterback right, So I don't think you trust hell

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Speaker 1: they fumble the tush push you just that ball security? Right.

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Speaker 1: We talk over and over and over turnovers, turnovers, turnovers, turnovers, turnovers.

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Speaker 1: You can't turn. You can't lose a turnover battle. Well,

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Speaker 1: at least if you're losing the turnover battle it's a

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Speaker 1: skill guy fumbling or a quarterback throwing a pick. You

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Speaker 1: cannot have your starting or your backup defensive tackle, who's

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Speaker 1: your strongest guy on your team fumbling the ball? So I,

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Speaker 1: in a long way of a roundabout way of saying,

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Speaker 1: I think it's really that simple. You would never trust

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Speaker 1: that guy in a big spot because, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: a fourth and one is always a big spot to

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Speaker 1: hold on to the football. The center quarterback exchange. It's

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Speaker 1: not easy, you know. For as easy as these guys

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Speaker 1: make it, we still have balls hit the ground, and

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Speaker 1: there's just no when would those guys practice, Like, would

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Speaker 1: you spend an extra thirty minutes or twenty minutes a

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Speaker 1: day just doing some snaps for a play you might

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Speaker 1: run once? Seems like a lot of wasted time, and

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Speaker 1: then you still wouldn't trust it. So I I think

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest reason you just would not trust a

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Speaker 1: big guy in fairness, like it's not that'd be on

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Speaker 1: the coach, not the not the lineman, because I do

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Speaker 1: think especially d lineman, they're used to playing low, like

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Speaker 1: they could get low enough and they're strong enough, but

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Speaker 1: while you're pushing to hold the ball the points of pressure,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that ball could go all over the place. Okay,

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Speaker 1: audios will call it a day slide in those dms

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. I will talk to you all soon. Audios.

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Speaker 1: The volume