WEBVTT - Training Camp-Cast 8/1: Third Day in Pads, Vets Get Rest, Opportunities for Depth Pieces

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<v Speaker 1>The Patriots are back in pads for a third straight day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was hot, it was humid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the dog days are here.

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<v Speaker 2>What went down?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it. Welcome everybody to the Patriots training camcast,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by New Balance. We are here to break down

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<v Speaker 1>what dare we? Paul five day five, I wasn't here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you missus one practice and he loses count.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost track. But we also here introduce Jack Webb.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be joining us this year. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul and I a pre and postgame show, and Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be taking over the hosting duties.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome. I am fired up. Two quick lessons I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>learn from day sunscreen. How about that? A little sunscreen?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I got to follow Polly's footsteps the towel genius.

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily Fred hooked me up with the napkins. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to wipe the sweat here as we go. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a pleasure to be here. I'm really fired up

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<v Speaker 2>by the season.

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<v Speaker 3>If we have your back for another year. You're adding

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<v Speaker 3>the seat cushions too. Make sure you make sure you're

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<v Speaker 3>behind just taking care of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I need that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's pretty flat so I know everybody probably thought

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<v Speaker 3>we had a player on for our post.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack play man right, play a little football you maan,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess shorter arms and Will Campbell.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, it was, it was, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a no for me from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the full scouting report on Jack before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the first preseason game in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys, we did have a practice here today and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you guys saw yesterday did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down Drake may rainom bombs in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They were a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>More in the middle of the field this this week

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<v Speaker 1>or today, I should say. Mike Rabel said they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing a call it which seemed like situational football, we know,

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<v Speaker 1>going through the downs. But overall, I thought there were

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<v Speaker 1>a few plays but it seems like things are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. There were sloppy to Paul, there was interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some balls on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ground here, and I thought it was a little more

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<v Speaker 3>even today. I thought the defense made some disruptive plays

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<v Speaker 3>as well. I thought there was some immediate pressures. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know about the tempo of the actual plays how

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<v Speaker 3>they were running today. I thought they were a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more live yesterday than they were today. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Drake May continues to throw the ball reasonably well, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you're starting to see I think Romeo Dobbs

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<v Speaker 3>show up a little bit more. You had a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit less from some of the other guys today, so

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know, you had to. You mentioned the interceptions,

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<v Speaker 3>so you had one for May, one for Tommy DeVito.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall I thought it was a little bit back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth today for the offense and defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I felt a little bit like the dog days

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<v Speaker 4>of training. Camper here and three straight days and it's

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<v Speaker 4>hot and the day off tomorrow, so maybe a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more, uh, sloppiness today, especially from the offense. The

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<v Speaker 4>balls on the ground a couple of times with a

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<v Speaker 4>few fumbles, and the interceptions that you guys mentioned. Uh, Jackie,

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<v Speaker 4>you've played offensive line, so you got to school these

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<v Speaker 4>guys on this. But we had a lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Played offensive line in high school too, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so no, he doesn't have to school him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I'm passing the baton. He love it on

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<v Speaker 4>the offensive line talk. But up front there, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>there were some issues with some of the stunts in

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<v Speaker 4>the games that the defense was running. Elijah Ponder, Draymond Jones,

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of guys in there. So I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was something that in pacted practice a little bit too.

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<v Speaker 4>And as this new offensive line and you know, some

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<v Speaker 4>guys were out today no Vera, Tucker Morgan, Moses continues

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of rotate with kayleb Blomo. So a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of things that have stood out there in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>the pass rush. Maybe not the standard fore man rushes,

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<v Speaker 4>those seem to be blocked up pretty well. But once

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<v Speaker 4>you start running all those games up front, that's when

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<v Speaker 4>it got a little dicey.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys can speak this way better than I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Having watched so many of these training camp practices, the

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<v Speaker 2>run game seems like it needs to get going. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that a training camp thing? Is that maybe some questions

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<v Speaker 2>about about how efficient it is here has been early on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been quiet. It is hard to evaluate it

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<v Speaker 3>when they're not tackling to the ground. But I thought

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<v Speaker 3>the way you haven't put it, there were guys I

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<v Speaker 3>thought knifing through and being making just shocked. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I thought there was more disruptive plays on defense. I

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<v Speaker 3>did just was really just talking about interceptions. I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty one is that Riley Wilson. Yet Riley Wilson, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was blowing up places.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet he put somebody on his but one of the

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<v Speaker 4>rookie running backs, I don't know what thirty nine or

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<v Speaker 4>thirty they kind of all.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought there were a lot of players around the

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<v Speaker 3>line of scrimmage that never really had a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>get going. Screen passed Alarison was one of the fumbles

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<v Speaker 3>that Evan talked about. So yeah, I thought the running

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<v Speaker 3>game is not anywhere near where you wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But Vara Tucker missing from left guard is a big difference.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did think that Ben Brown, who took his spot,

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<v Speaker 3>struggled for the most of part today. Moses, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he was out there for the team periods, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>out there for the individual stuff, so you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of mixing and matching today. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Mike hid it right in the open though. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>dog days of August, and you know it's only August first.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I think the coaches want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to this point when you got to push through that

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<v Speaker 1>mental toughness and find it when it's hot and when

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard, especially when some new players getting opportunities, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know. Of course, how Drake did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd have one really nice, you know, backshore shoulder throat

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<v Speaker 1>to AJ Brown. Don't panic.

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<v Speaker 3>A J.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown did walk off the field. He didn't, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come back. But Mike Rabel did say they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to limit some of these guys today, as Paul pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think there's any reason to panic. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Williams did also go off with a trainer and

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<v Speaker 1>was getting looked at, so that's something O back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he came back into and he was doing what

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<v Speaker 3>I thought was interesting, a lot of work with on

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<v Speaker 3>special teams, with the gunners and the vice guys. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's clearly trying to find himself a game day role.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so returner maybe we talked about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, anything to use as speed, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's gunner covering punts or returning kickoffs. I think both

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<v Speaker 4>of those things are our roles for him. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've talked a lot about the third running back also

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<v Speaker 4>being involved in those kickoff returns, so getting speedback there

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<v Speaker 4>is obviously the type of play that it is, so

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<v Speaker 4>I could see Kyle Williams potentially filling in there and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe earning a roster spot because after Chisholm, he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to play on special teams. You know, he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a backup returner and he's going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to maybe cover kicks too. So I think Kyle Williams

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<v Speaker 4>got to learn special teams. That's going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>be a path.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jack, your first time at KIM What what stood

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<v Speaker 1>out to you today?

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<v Speaker 2>First off, A lot of credits to you guys watching

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<v Speaker 2>all that chaos, especially when everyone's an indie, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>watching everyone, it's almost impossible to follow, especially the guy

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<v Speaker 2>with the ADHD. I tip the caps you guys. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was very interesting to watch that live period

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<v Speaker 2>at the end with the threes. I think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of this time of year. I love those battles, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm biased. I played with Xavier Holmes right so watching

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<v Speaker 2>him and king on him, just watching a guy fight

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<v Speaker 2>for a spot. I think that's what's always so intriguing

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<v Speaker 2>about these training camp practice and there's plenty of battles

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<v Speaker 2>across the board here at PATS Camp.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Live tackling to the ground, which we don't see

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<v Speaker 4>you very often in practice. And they've done it both days,

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<v Speaker 4>just with the threes. Don't worry, they're not tackling Drake

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<v Speaker 4>may all right, but just with the threes. But we

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<v Speaker 4>saw it yesterday, we saw it today. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if you guys recalled. Did we see that last summer.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember Mike Rabel having live tackling.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely don't remember this amount of reps for the threes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>period last year. I think that's a testament. Mike was

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<v Speaker 3>asked about it before practice. I think it's a testament

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, Morten and some of those receivers, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Cameron Dormer, Riley Dixon. I think these guys

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<v Speaker 3>have shown up and made some plays when they've been

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<v Speaker 3>given opportunities, and I think because of that, Mike feels

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<v Speaker 3>compelled to give them more opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would like to toss you guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>warm up the softball here. Kyle Williams obviously named fans

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<v Speaker 2>are very curious about a great day. Offensively, is that

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<v Speaker 2>upside that it is going to make it a tough

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<v Speaker 2>call for them, A really tough decision here at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the month. I mean, I think he's starting

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<v Speaker 2>to show up here in the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys saw yesterday is.

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<v Speaker 1>What he ever? I don't know what he did yesterday, yeaheah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he had a good day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just been making most of his of his opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, And that's what we've talked about. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I like him as a kickoff returner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a spot where they.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't really have an obvious guy and maybe if he

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<v Speaker 1>can add some speed to that, maybe some game changing ability,

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<v Speaker 1>because early in the camp's almost felt like an afterthought

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<v Speaker 1>with the kickoff returner.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Kyle Williams. Yesterday I thought was kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>his breakout practice, if you want to call it that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you finally started to notice him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Then today I thought he was behind the defense on

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<v Speaker 4>that deep ball and Drake May under threw that pass

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit. It was so he went right through

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of the field and he was he was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be gone, and the ball just hung up

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<v Speaker 4>in the air on Drake May a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 4>I thought the last couple of days, we've seen a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more Kyle Williams. Paul you mentioned to me,

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<v Speaker 4>I think before practice, maybe a little less kish on booty. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>He did have a catch today, but maybe a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit that hype train slowing just a tad and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle Williams picking up the torch a little.

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<v Speaker 3>And one last thing Mike before I know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to do your wrap up. We got at least a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to see yeah Gay bach Us. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so he was not in full pads and very limited.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike said he would be limited, and he was, but

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<v Speaker 3>I did get to see him sort of working on

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<v Speaker 3>some punk protection stuff. He rocked one of the coaches,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mike Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know, I don't know any of the coaches.

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<v Speaker 4>So I made an audible noise when that happened when

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<v Speaker 4>we were watching up a practice. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 4>think I heard it, so he uh, yeah, he There's

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<v Speaker 4>some video. It was during periods that you could shoot,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, media could shoot. So there's some video on

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter circling around of him just putting Mike Smith. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not a small guy, you know, I mean late in

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<v Speaker 4>the league, like this is a former player. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was holding the pad and act as bull rush

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<v Speaker 4>him and just ran him right over, put him right

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<v Speaker 4>on his butt. And I think that was more finally

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<v Speaker 4>I get to practice, yeah, you know, than anything else

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<v Speaker 4>to like look into. But I thought that he looked healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he looked explosive, powerful, what you expect, and

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<v Speaker 4>you could just tell that he was chopping at the

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<v Speaker 4>bit even to do one on ones, like literally anything

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<v Speaker 4>that the coaches would let him do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mike Rabel said he was texting him every night

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<v Speaker 1>even though he knew he wasn't gonna practice the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>begging we're able to put him in there. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it here for Saturday, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be off tomorrow. We back at it Monday. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be backing pads again. So we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the dog days right now. A lot to find out

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<v Speaker 1>with some of these position battles lower down on the

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<v Speaker 1>depth chart. So we're back on Monday to break it

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<v Speaker 1>all down.