1 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it. 2 00:00:36,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Now, release slowly again deep in helle hold release, repeating 3 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I 4 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: am deeply, deeply well. I I am deeply well. 5 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I am deeply wow. I'm Debbie Brown and this is 6 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: the Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft 7 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: place to land in your journey. A podcast for those 8 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: that are curious, creative, and ready to expand in higher 9 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: consciousness and self care. This is where we heal, this 10 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: is where we become. Welcome back everyone, I'm Debbie Brown again, 11 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: and this is Deeply Well. This episode, I want to 12 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: talk about creativity. I shared a couple episodes ago that 13 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: have been kind of in my back with creativity. Very 14 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: gratefully I say that, I think that is something that 15 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: is such a big theme for our collective consciousness right now, 16 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: is reclaiming our creativity. Very often, for those that have 17 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: done some rebirthing or inner child healing, a big focus 18 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: is on childlike play and reconnecting to the things that 19 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: we loved in childhood. But depending on what your life 20 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: has looked like, your experiences, your current circumstances, you know 21 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: that can feel really foreign. You know, this idea that 22 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: play is easy, it's kind of fun to poke and 23 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: prod that a little bit because at its foundation, it 24 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: absolutely is. It's it's simplicity. At its finest, it is 25 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: giving yourself over to your innate, natural emotions and you know, 26 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: being enthused with the experiences around you and activating your 27 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: imagination and having a fearlessness to try new things, to 28 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: look silly, you know, to do whatever movements feel good. 29 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: For those who have young children, I think we know 30 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: that all too well. Our kids are always making you know, 31 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: these kind of faces where I'm like, I don't even 32 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: know your face could twists like that? How did you 33 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: think to do that? Or you know, my son in 34 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: particular is the king of play. His imagination just it 35 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: inspires me endlessly. But you know, depending on life and 36 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: all the things, just becoming an adult, you get naturally disconnected. 37 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Play is actually hard. 38 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: You know. 39 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: When I first had my son, I found it really 40 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: hard to engage in play. I felt like I needed 41 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: to be doing something or you know, I just couldn't. 42 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't really lock in in that way, especially because 43 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: you know you're working with developmental ages that you've passed 44 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: but the core of play is kind of leaning into 45 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: this natural connection to creativity that you don't have to 46 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: think about. You know, that's really the essence of play. 47 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: It's creation, it's creating joy from nothing. It is, you know, 48 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: expanding your heart and mind and being fearless to create 49 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: something to do in that moment, something to feel good about, 50 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: and connecting to it in that way can really start 51 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: to be something not only healing, but very beautiful. Now, 52 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: when you take it a step past that and you 53 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: use that kind of incredible energy, you can also unlock deeper, 54 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: higher layers of your purpose. You can really come into 55 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: an ownership of yourself and your path that can be 56 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: profound and that cannot be taken from you. So taking 57 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: time to investigate and invest in one's creativity it's really 58 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: such a sacred devotional act, and it is very uncomfortable, 59 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: especially if you're not used to allowing that kind of 60 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: freedom into your expression, into yourself or you know, for 61 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: whatever reasons, you have limiting beliefs that make you question 62 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: if you could, or you should, or you know, if 63 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: you're worthy enough, if you're smart enough, if you'rxxx you 64 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: know all insert all words enough and the truth is 65 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: always that you are we are, and so sinking into 66 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: the patience that is required to cultivate creativity is something 67 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: that I have come to have a tremendous amount of 68 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: reverence for. I didn't really realize, I think, until this year, 69 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: when some of those deeper elements of my creativity began 70 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: to really just like burst from the seams. I didn't 71 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: realize how much time it actually takes to create your container. 72 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: And I often think about life and spiritual expression and 73 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: practices and devotion in terms of container. You know, the 74 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: word container, It is something that is kind of the parameter, 75 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: the holding, the space holding for whatever the experience is. 76 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: And so you know, when I'm working, when I'm having retreats, 77 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: or when I'm working one on one, I often take 78 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: a lot of time to explain to who I'm with 79 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: that we are setting the container for our experience together, 80 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: our time together at retreats. I do. It's you know, 81 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: it's really we're setting the container for the entire group 82 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: and how we'll all be held by this experience. You know, 83 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: in a private conversation, even with friends or family, it 84 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: could really look like saying, you know, let's set the 85 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: container for this conversation. My intention is to be in 86 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: community with you, in conversation with you with an open 87 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: heart and open mind, you know, kind of walking in 88 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: with it the parameters, the structure for what is happening 89 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: and bringing forward some intention setting and open heartedness is 90 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: having a container for something. And so when it comes 91 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: to really bringing your creativity to life and making it 92 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: uniquely your own, because you know, we can watch all 93 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: the all the hack videos and things like that, and 94 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you listen to this show, you know, 95 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, I'm kind of a purist, 96 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: and I don't I want everyone to come into their 97 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: highest expression as themselves and buy themselves but with support, 98 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: you know. But it's really our inner journey. And so 99 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, I try to abstain from getting a lot 100 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: of influence from other places, and I've really worked to 101 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: train myself to lean into my own divine inspiration and 102 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: to trust it immediately. And I think that that is 103 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: something that has very powerfully led my life, and that's 104 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: something that's open and available to each one of us. 105 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: But part of that is, you know, building your intuition, 106 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: really being in practice with checking in with your gut, 107 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: with creating that channel to your higher self, to your 108 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: higher power, but it can be powerful, you know, leaning 109 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: into your divine inspiration is a feeling. I know some 110 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: listening know it well and you might be saying it's 111 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: a feeling that it's it's pretty indescribable. And it's also 112 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: deeply connected to the idea of being a sovereign being 113 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: or being in your sovereignty, which is incredibly important and 114 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I think most especially in this day and age for 115 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: women to come into that space. But everything is a creation. 116 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, we use the word creativity, of course, the 117 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: root word is probably create, creation, creator. It's all in 118 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: the same vein of being an active participation with whatever 119 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: is in front of you, being an active participation with 120 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: your life, co creating with the divine right, co creating 121 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: your healing, creating something. Creativity is. It's really the blood 122 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: coursing through your veins that's in service to whatever it 123 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: is you are creating. But every single thing we do 124 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: is a creation. Everything we do is us co creating, 125 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: and that's why in previous episodes I've shared. One that 126 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: comes to mind is a favorite with my dear sister, 127 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: my beloved Leila Dahlia. What we talked about on there was. 128 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: You know you can create anything. You can co create anything, 129 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: including your own pain, just like you can co create 130 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: your healing and you can co create you know the 131 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: higher vision you have for yourself and your life and 132 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: all the ways you're meant to use your brilliant to 133 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: your wisdom, your skill sets, you know your purpose in 134 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: service to more so, when we are beginning to set 135 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the stage to really embody the power of being an 136 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: active creator in this life and in every interaction that 137 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: you have, both perceivedly big and small, it's important to 138 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: create the container of creativity. And when we start doing 139 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: the work, and when we start looking at ourselves with reverence, 140 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: with trust, with confidence and our abilities, it becomes a 141 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: lot easier to create that container. You start to just 142 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: kind of notice, what do I need to invoke my creativity? 143 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: What do I need to invoke my inner genius, my 144 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: inner muse, my inner artist, And that is uniquely our own, 145 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: Which is why I think, you know again, TikTok videos 146 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: are dope. All the stuff, there's so much information. I 147 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: was actually just looking some stuff up myself. But it's 148 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: important to not just recreate what's in front of you. 149 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: That can be a good starting point, you know, getting 150 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: that initial bump, to get those wheels turning, to get 151 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: those hands moving, to get that vision clear, to get 152 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: that esthetic refined. But ultimately it's important to really look 153 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: at your own life and your experiences and your wants, 154 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: your needs, your desires, your tastes, your likes, your dislikes 155 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: as the inspiration for what that container is going to 156 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: look like. So a couple episodes ago, I shared kind 157 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: of what my journey has been, especially as many know 158 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: right now, I am in the midst of finalizing my 159 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: book Living in Wisdom that I cannot wait to get 160 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: to you. Huge shout out to GCP Balance. So it's 161 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: been really important for me to create this space, and 162 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I think I was looking at that from the lens 163 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: especially of having written in a book a little bit 164 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: over six years ago and remembering how incredibly stressful that 165 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: was and how I got everything out that I wanted 166 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: to say. But it was kind of a lot of 167 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: agony to get to that place, to create a structure 168 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: that made sense to my unique brain on how to 169 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: get my work out of me. And so part of 170 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: the way that I'm showing up in my life in 171 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: this last year, and I feel really strongly this year coming. 172 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: It's about creating the systems and the structures that are 173 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: supportive to what I meant to birth in the world, 174 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: to the various things I meant to birth in the world. 175 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: And I know that's true for each of us, because 176 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: every single person living, every single person connecting to my 177 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: voice right now, has something the earth desperately needs, truly, 178 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: whatever that is. And it doesn't have to be so big, 179 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: right And it's not nothing is too small. It's it 180 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what size it is or what it looks like. 181 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: But every single person on this earth has something that 182 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: the rest of us could really be changed by. So 183 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: it's important that we lean into the truth of what 184 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: we're here to do, which is to create always. Whatever 185 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: that is, it's creating goodness between you know, you and another, 186 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: it's creating perhaps a piece of art or writing a book, 187 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: or it's creating a moment, whatever it is, we are 188 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: always doing it. And I found that, you know, the 189 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: only times we really get stagnated or unable to move forward, 190 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: or unable to advance in our lives or in our 191 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: goals for our own inner healing, consciously, subconsciously, it's when 192 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: we stop creating, most specifically when we stop making choices, 193 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: because choices are creation. Every time you make a choice, 194 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is to stand still, to move forward, to backtrack, 195 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: to stay, to go, to do this, do that, have 196 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: this conversation. Every single choice is something that you are 197 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: consciously creating, and it now has its own path and 198 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: now has its own timeline. It now has its own consciousness, 199 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: and it's existing in some form and always will, you know. 200 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: So it's just it's important to look at all of that, 201 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: and so as we think to create our container. One 202 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: of the things that I was doing was I've had 203 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: this office in my house for many years, and I've 204 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: worked out of it for many years, but it was 205 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: ever my preference. I would always find myself going to, 206 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, like a coworking station, or for a little 207 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: bit of time, I've rented some space, and I don't 208 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: know why, I just couldn't really lock into being in 209 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: this room. And as I shared recently, you know, I 210 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: took several weeks to just get it in this kind 211 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: of shape that brought me to life. And so my 212 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: office has a bathroom attached to it, and so in 213 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: the bathroom, I kind of turned that into like my 214 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: little inner child room. So when I was going through 215 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: these boxes, I got out of storage and I was 216 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: looking at my whole life in front of me. I 217 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: picked out some things that really resonated and continue to 218 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: resonate with who I am now, that really show me 219 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: the truth of myself and my life and you know 220 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: the fact that I've really always been myself, and you 221 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: know that. Along with some pictures and even a couple stickers, 222 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: I kind of have just like put them everywhere, kind 223 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: of like a kid too, just like taped up everywhere, 224 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: which is kind of unlike me because I am very 225 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm very David Beckham with the way with my esthetic. 226 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, So I did that in that room, and 227 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: then in my actual office, I got everything in the 228 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: exact tiptop shape it needed to be. I then brought 229 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: in I created an altar that's just for my office 230 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: and my creativity that includes a really beautiful statue of 231 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: Shiva and Pavarti and a huge amethyst crystal candles, a 232 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: sacral chakra, bell a maala, and a big piece of fluorite, 233 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: a piece of coon site, a piece of ctrine, a 234 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: piece of moldabite, and some beautiful stones that I got 235 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: from one of my breathwork teachers, and so it's set 236 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: up on this little table and it's my creativity altar, 237 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: and every day I kind of walk over to it 238 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: and I ring the bell and I just love it 239 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: being here. So that was one of the things that 240 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: was important to me. I also have this small stack 241 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: of books out that are inspiration books for me. One 242 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: of them is this book that I've been obsessed with 243 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: the last maybe six months or so. It's called The 244 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Book of Obscure Sorrows. Oh my god, it is like 245 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: I can totally be a certified sad girl. And it 246 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: is a book that just says all these things that 247 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: I've always thought. I'm like, what he created a word 248 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: for that. It's really brilliant. I also have a few 249 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: books of poetry, one of Hafee's and one of my favorite, Roomy, 250 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: and then I have a copy of a book that 251 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: I love dearly called The Way of Mastery. And so 252 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: those are always books that inspire me. I've read them 253 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: a million times, especially the latter ones that I mentioned. 254 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: So sometimes I'll just walk in my office, I take 255 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: a few deep breaths, I activate my reiki, meditate, a 256 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: little bit, and then I read a couple pages and 257 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: then I get going because I got a lot of 258 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: work to do, so then I'm at it. But doing that, 259 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: I created a collage board. I really love collaging. It's 260 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: something that I kind of do to activate every project 261 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: that I work on, whether I'm working for a company 262 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: on some meditations or you know, one of the multitude 263 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: of things. But for everything that I do, I usually 264 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: give it its own collage of inspiration that has images 265 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: of things that are my muses, people that are my 266 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: muses right now, and I have fun turning it into 267 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: like a little mini art piece. And I found that 268 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: that just really kind of energetically connects me to whatever 269 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm working on. And then I put it up and 270 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: you know, for the entirety of the length of whatever 271 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: project I'm a part of, you know, I look at 272 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: it as I'm working on it, and it keeps me. 273 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: I think, especially as someone that kind of has a 274 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: multitude of projects happening at one time, it really anchors 275 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: me and connects me instantly into what I'm working on 276 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: in that moment. So I really love making those. I'm 277 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: looking at the one that I have up right now 278 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: for my book and it makes me some mile. I 279 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: also have different you know, different invocative totems, you know, 280 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: different things and symbols that really speak to me. I 281 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of pop up different places and then I get 282 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: everything laid out that I need to see to do 283 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: my work well and to get you know, my brain flowing. 284 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: So those are some of the ways that I set 285 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: the container here. And I always kind of turn on 286 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: alist playlist as soon as I get to my office 287 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: and it takes me a couple of minutes to settle in. 288 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: But now that I have taken the time to kind 289 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: of activate it in this way. Also, you know, got 290 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: my files all in orders. It's very nice and tidy. 291 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm able to get going pretty quickly, and I really 292 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: appreciate that. So that is my container for creativity. And 293 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: I also have to feed it by, you know, before 294 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: I start my work day. I have a little program 295 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: of things that I do cold plunge, take a walk outside, 296 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: get my kiddy off to school, have some coffee, have 297 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: you know a little something, and then I get moving 298 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: and I like to stay in silence for about twenty 299 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. And then I get in my office and 300 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: I get going and so that has been that's been 301 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: really special, especially the last several weeks, it's been really special. 302 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: So consider that on your path to creativity, you know, 303 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: creating a container for each thing that you're doing. And 304 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: that container can be like a collage. It can be 305 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: its own little journal, or its own little area, or 306 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: its own little file folder. But it's something that you know, 307 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: every time you open it, you're able to instantly activate 308 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: and deepen in what you're doing. And I think you know, 309 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: in wisdom tradition, when you think of the way people 310 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: have Hindu deities or any kind of deities that people 311 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: work with, you know, the correct way to do it 312 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: is to put it in an enclosed space and give 313 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: it up and then when you open the door, the 314 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: energy expands and it fills you. But then you close 315 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: the doors, so you're housing the energy that you're tending 316 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: to within whatever this container or vessel is. So it's 317 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: very similar to that. I found the way some of 318 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: that creative energy can flow. You know, at the end 319 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: of every night, I make sure the door is always closed, 320 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: all the lights are always off, I kind of put 321 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: the room to bed, and then when I come in 322 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: the morning, as I explain, I kind of wake it up, 323 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: and I've just found that that really is creating some potency. 324 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: There really is kind of a felt experience in here 325 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: that's so supportive to the act of creation and to 326 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: getting your ideas out and really standing in your fullest 327 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: expression for whatever you happen to be working on deeply well. 328 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: So that is one of the ways I have been 329 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: experiencing creativity lately. I've also been really connecting to different hobbies. 330 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: So I don't think I've shared this on the show yet, 331 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: but I was tweeting about it, and I put it 332 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: in my threads and on my Instagram and all those places, 333 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: and you know, I was I was thinking about some 334 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: of the ways that I feed myself. I'm a lifelong learner. 335 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: I know so many that listen to this show are. 336 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: We are always trying to kind of sink our teeth 337 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: into something, expand into something, and so I love to learn. 338 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: I always have. I have always been fascinated, interested, deeply curious, 339 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: and actively pursuing a lot of different things at the 340 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: same time, sometimes very contrasting things, which kind of leans 341 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: into you know, when I previously had my career in broadcasting, 342 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, I was on the radio, or was doing 343 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: the Grammy Red Carpets. But then on the weekends or 344 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: with my vacation time, I was disappearing and I was 345 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: doing you know, meditation, teacher training, breathwork, teacher training. I mean, 346 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, over the last decade plus, and so sometimes 347 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: things don't always go together, but I always trust my 348 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: gut and I study what I feel interested in at 349 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: the time, even if I'm building kind of like my 350 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: own little study systems for it. So I love to 351 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: do that. So when I think of free time, I 352 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: almost never Netflix and chill. It's always kind of like 353 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: get out that big book in your highlighter and also 354 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: open your computer so you can do secondary research on 355 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: something that interests you. Oh yeah, that's me. I'm just 356 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: my sale. So one of the things that I love 357 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: to do every year is decide what is the theme 358 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: that I want to study for this year. And I 359 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: usually pick anywhere between like one three, sometimes even five 360 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: if they're kind of shallower topics, things that I'm going 361 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: to spend the year kind of exploring in my free time. 362 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: So if I get a bit of free time, that's 363 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: when I might read a book on that subject or 364 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, watch some videos or make some calls, meet 365 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: with some people that are experts in that space, do 366 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: deeper research. I love, love, love to research constantly, and 367 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: so this year I've kind of done that. A big 368 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: priority I have for my year this year is I'm 369 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: working with a new healing modality within the energy family 370 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: that I'm really excited about. Not going to call it 371 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: out right now, but I will share it in the future. 372 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: And I actually think I might have my teacher on 373 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: the show. But I'm a reiki master a few times over. 374 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: I work with USUI, Holy Fire and Corona, and then 375 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm also tuned to two other energy systems that I 376 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: cannot name at this time, but two other energy systems 377 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: that I love to work with. And so energy is 378 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: really important to me and it's a big part of 379 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: the way the way I move. And so there's a 380 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: new system that I've been really interested in that I 381 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: think can be so beneficial and so supportive to the 382 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: work that I do. So I'm in a twelve month 383 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: program working towards that. And then I also decided, because 384 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: I got into yoga in the last couple of years, 385 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: I decided to just go ahead and do a teacher 386 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: training for yoga, and so I'm going to do that 387 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: this year. And one of the things I'm excited. You know, 388 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily something I'm going to actively teach, but 389 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: I love immersing myself into something when I know I 390 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: want to master it or I want to gain personal 391 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: expertise for my own body in it, and then I 392 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: like to, if I'm able, push myself. If I'm able 393 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: time wise and you know, money wise, I like to 394 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: push myself and just do the teacher training because it 395 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: holds you accountable and you get a really high caliber 396 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: understanding of something that you're doing. I love doing teacher training, 397 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: so that's how I learn best. It's how I kind 398 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: of can be accountable, can commit to something. So I'm 399 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: going to do that. I'm doing a two hundred hour 400 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: one this year that I start next month, so I'm 401 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: really excited for that, and I kind of had to 402 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: slip and slide it all over my schedule, like I'm 403 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: traveling a lot this year. So even when I'm at 404 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: the Black Effect Podcast Festival, which just got announced this week, 405 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: I'll be doing my panel and then I'll be going 406 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: to my hotel room to do one of the virtual 407 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: classes with the rest of my classmates from the hotel 408 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: for a couple hours. So I love stuff like that. 409 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: I love to get down like that. But quick break. 410 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of Black Effect Podcast Festival has officially been announced. 411 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: It is happening in Atlanta April twenty fourth, and I 412 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: will be doing a live podcast on the main stage. 413 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: I have two amazing guests that are going to be 414 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: joining me that I will announce later. So I'm really 415 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: excited to be there. So if you plan to be 416 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, I can't wait to see you at the festival. 417 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: Please come up. Let's talk about the show. Let's you know, 418 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: let's connect. I'm really excited. I'll have more, more and 419 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: more and more to say on that as we continue 420 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: to ramp up in it closer to the date. So 421 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: those are some things that I'm studying more deeply this year. 422 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: I've also taken on a couple new hobbies. So I'm 423 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: taking a sewing class, and I just got a sewing 424 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 1: machine and I've been practicing sewing. That is something that 425 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: I want to start to begin my learning and so 426 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go slowly. But sewing is a hobby this year, 427 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: and so is tennis. Tennis I just started playing a 428 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: little bit during winter break, and I just found that 429 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: I feel so free doing that. So I'm really excited 430 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: to kind of get a chance to do that maybe 431 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: a couple times a month this year and see how 432 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: it feels. And you know, that's something that once you 433 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: get some connection to you can continue playing for the 434 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: rest of your life. So really looking forward to doing that. 435 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: And let's see what are some I think that's kind 436 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: of what I'm focused on with some of the free 437 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: space in my life. But also other hobbies that I'm 438 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: always actively pursuing are like astronomy, fascinated by it, love 439 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: to study astronomy, love to stargazze, astrology obsessed gardening, gardening 440 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: as a really really special hobby in my life. Photography, painting. 441 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: I love to paint, Drawing. I love to draw, especially 442 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: with my son, he is such an artist. Building different things. 443 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I have like a little workshop bench in the garage, 444 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: Like I like to just put stuff together and collecting, 445 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm never bored. I always feel 446 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: kind of really full and engaged, and you know, kind 447 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: of having all of those things that interest me really 448 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: keep my creativity alive. So feel really grateful to have 449 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: a chance to kind of sink into stuff that interests me. 450 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: So consider, you know, what are a couple of things 451 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: that you may want to learn on YouTube, take a 452 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: class and see if there's a local, you know, community 453 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: space to do something, maybe free tie cheek classes in 454 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: the park or you know, whatever it is. What are 455 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: a couple of things that you could add to your 456 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: year that can help kind of keep that flame sparked 457 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: inside for all the other work that you're called to do. 458 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: I want to share too, one of the things that 459 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: I promised myself I do this year. Last year, I 460 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: traveled a lot for work. I was gone, gone, gone, 461 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: and it was amazing. I worked with incredible people. I 462 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: learned so much. I had fun, but also it was 463 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: really exhausting. And I'm a mother of a five year old, 464 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: and I don't want to have that much movement in 465 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: my life at this point in his childhood, and so 466 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: I have. You know, I kind of told myself that 467 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: this year I was going to cut down work travel 468 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: by about seventy five percent, and then I was going 469 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: to try to up my personal pleasure travel by about 470 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: thirty percent, so that travel that I do with my son, 471 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: and then travel that I can do quickly and slowly 472 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: by myself, and so this past week and I did that. 473 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: At the last second, I decided to book a flight 474 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, which I live in La So San 475 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: Francisco is such a beautiful flight. It's like forty five minutes. 476 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Might be in traffic for one hundred hours once you 477 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: leave the airport, but I was only, you know, on 478 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: the plane for forty five minutes. So I popped up 479 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: to San Frian. I met up with one of my 480 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: best friends in the world, and we I had like 481 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: maybe thirty hours in the city, and I can't even 482 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: begin to tell you it was truly one of the 483 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: best days of my life, like one of the best 484 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: weeks of my life. I had such a blast. A 485 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: group of us were out there together, and so a 486 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: very small group, but we started out by having this 487 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: impeccable tie dinner with like the most mind blowing scallops 488 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: I've ever had, and it was, oh my god, it 489 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: was delicious. Met people out, drove around the city, went 490 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: to sleep. The next morning, woke up and we went 491 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, and again 492 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: I was with one of my best friends April. We 493 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: just have the most beautiful friendship that I'm so grateful for, 494 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: and we have such a shorthand with one another, just 495 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: such a fun, beautiful, loving, deep connected relationship. And we're 496 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: just so similar in our travel styles and in the 497 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: things that were interested in. So we just have the 498 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: most special time together whenever we're together. And so she 499 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: and I got up and we went to the museum 500 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: and both of us one of our favorite artists is Kusama, 501 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: and so Kusama had a installation at that museum. She 502 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: did two kind of experiential cubes that are just mind 503 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: blowing and put them on my stories on Instagram this weekend, 504 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: so you might have seen it. But we checked out 505 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: her exhibit and it was like God, ah, and then 506 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: don't let me free in a museum gift shop, getting 507 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: all like the artists merged. So it was, yeah, it 508 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: was very lit. But then also while we were at 509 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: the museum, I had a chance to check out a 510 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: few other exhibits that I really felt like God called 511 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: me to the museum, like just to see that. And 512 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: one of those exhibits was from an artist named Wolfgang 513 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: Tillman's and it was called to Look Without fear, and 514 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: it was this very provocative photo series that was just 515 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: exhibited in such an interesting way. It was actually kind 516 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: of like explaining I did to my bathroom. Like they 517 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: hung up all of like his art in this museum 518 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: with like pushpins and the walls and like paper clips, 519 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: so it looked like almost like a kid's not even kids, 520 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: it just looked like a person's bedroom, you know, where 521 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: you just kind of hack the things that interest you 522 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: on the wall, just tack them up. But it didn't 523 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: have like any real rhyme or reason to it. It's 524 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: just like, you know, I want to see this, so 525 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: let me put it up. And it was really, really beautiful. 526 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: And then there was this music exhibit. I will not 527 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: even do it justice if I try to describe it 528 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: to you, but I hope you if you get a chance, 529 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: google it, and if you happen to be in the 530 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: San Francisco area or it shows somewhere else. I just 531 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: cannot tell you enough. The exhibit is called The Visitors. 532 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: It's an immersive hour long video installation that features individually 533 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: recorded footage of several musicians. I'm not going to pronounce 534 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: these correctly. Please forgive me. Ragnar who is on guitar 535 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: in a bathtub, warming up and playing instruments and singing, 536 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: and all of his bandmates and so they're all Icelandic artists, 537 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: but they somehow ended up in this insane house from 538 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: eighteen fifteen in upstate New York. They're all playing the 539 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: same song, but they're doing their individual parts of the 540 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: same song, and they're all in their own separate room 541 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: in the house doing that song. This kind of like 542 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: well worn mansion in upstate New York. There's like a 543 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: cannon outside, there's ambient sound, and each person is kind 544 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: of hollow in their own room. One person had a cello, 545 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: one person had a guitar, a piano, another is singing. 546 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: Everyone had their piece of the art in their own room. 547 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: But they were all playing at the same time within 548 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: this house. But none of them could hear one another, 549 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: but we could hear all of them. Oh, I can't 550 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: make it make sense, but it it was spectacular. I'll 551 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: just never forget it, and I hope I get a 552 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: chance to see it again. I was so moved by it, 553 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Oh God, so moved. So if you get a chance, 554 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: check that out. It was called the Visitors. It's at 555 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: the San Francisco Modern Art Museum and it was originally 556 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: filmed in twenty twelve, so the visitors musical exhibit deeply well. 557 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: After that, I then went to this really cool Indian 558 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: music store in Berkeley and I got something that I 559 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: love kind of collecting instruments. I have, like some sound 560 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: bowls that I love. I have monochord that I play, 561 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: and some drums I like jamming out and I've always well, 562 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: in the last few years, I've wanted a shrewdie box, 563 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: which is an Indian instrument and kind of I mean 564 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: not quite. It kind of looks like an accordion but 565 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: no keys, but it's kind of a similar concept, like 566 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: it's the air pushing through to make the sound, and 567 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: it's a very distinct sound. So I was able to 568 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: get a shrewdie Box there, which was really really exciting 569 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: to me. 570 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: And then we had this incredible lunch at this really 571 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: beautiful creole restaurant with just delicious, delicious food. 572 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, god, it was just beautiful. It was beautiful. 573 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: So we make it back from Berkeley back to San 574 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: France where we're staying, and then that night we kind 575 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: of closed out the evening by going to Andre three 576 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: thousand show New Blue Sun, which he is doing along 577 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: with his band. Big shout out to Carlos Nino and 578 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: everyone that is a part of that incredible tour. Shout 579 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: out to Andrea for his incredible album. I can't say 580 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: anything about it. It's something you have to experience, and 581 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, a footage from it gets released, you'll see it, 582 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: but it an experience. 583 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: It is an experience, and I am. 584 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: Deeply inspired by that experience. If you get a chance 585 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: to go to the show. It's the last day February 586 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: for me as I'm recording this and so I know 587 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: the show is in atl this week and then it 588 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: comes to LA. If you get a chance to see 589 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: Andre three thousands New Blue Sun Tour, drop everything that 590 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: you're doing and get there, you will be changed. It 591 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: is so inspiring, so inspiring, so inspiring. So there's just 592 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: not words, so deep. I hope at some point he 593 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: releases you know, the footage, if he wishes, and then 594 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: you can see. But it is it's an experience like 595 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: no other. And yeah, I left San Francisco so full. 596 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: The next day, I went to brunch with a couple 597 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: new friends. We went to this beautiful place I think 598 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: it was like in little Italy. It's it's like a mainstay. 599 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: I think it's called Mama's. And the creole restaurant was 600 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: called Angeline's. I don't remember the name of the taire restaurant, 601 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: but Mama's. And it was delicious and I had a blast, 602 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: and we had incredible conversation that was so nourishing, and 603 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, and then I grabbed my suitcase and I 604 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: ran it to an uber and got on my flight 605 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: and made it home in time for my son's basketball 606 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: practice and got him to bed and got us a 607 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: fresh start on Monday to go to school. But that, 608 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, that little twenty four to no twenty four 609 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: to probably thirty hour trip, it did so much for 610 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: my soul. So I'm going to try to make that 611 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: a part of my life, whether it's you know, catching 612 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: like some quick little something somewhere, or even just taking 613 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: a drive or going to, you know, a part of 614 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: my own city that I don't get too often and 615 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: kind of letting myself walk around for the afternoon, or 616 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of bring my senses to life. 617 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: It was really special. So these are some of the 618 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: ways I'm building my container for creativity. I'm getting, you know, 619 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: some of the meaningful work that I'm so excited about 620 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: this year out. This is the way that I'm also 621 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, inspiring my own creativity and finding my muses 622 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: and my bursts of inspiration, and so far it has 623 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: felt utterly divine, and I feel so grateful to have 624 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: tapped into whatever this flow is that I'm connected to 625 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: right now in this moment. So thank you as always 626 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: for listening to the show. Oh yeah, and one more 627 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: thing that I'm doing that I wanted to share that 628 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: has been kind of fun. So I don't get any 629 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: service where I live. I never have, and I kept 630 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: trying to get these boosters and it doesn't work, and 631 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: so I ended up getting a house line, and I 632 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: have like a few house phones scattered throughout the house, 633 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: and so you know, for people in my close life, 634 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, hit me on the landline. It has 635 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 1: been so fun hearing that phone ring in my house. 636 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: I've only had it for a couple of weeks, but 637 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: it is felt so good hearing this like ancient sound 638 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: ring off in my house. It's actually been like very regulating, nourishing, 639 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: nostalgic in the best way. I do not like having 640 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: my phone on me, So I just kind of put 641 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: my phone away and then I hear that and I 642 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: love it. And I've gotten several clocks that I've placed 643 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: around my house so that, you know, stay connected to 644 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: the time or I'm able to see, you know, if 645 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm meditating how much time has passed, all the things. 646 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: But it's felt really nice to remember what life felt 647 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: like at some point in my childhood where you needed 648 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: a clock to know what time it is, you needed 649 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: to know how to read the time, not digitally, and 650 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: you got these sporadic phone calls that you couldn't really control, 651 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: and the ring would just, you know, go, and you'd 652 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: be like, oh, wonder who that is? And you answer 653 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 1: the phone and you talk, and that has been nice. 654 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 1: I love it all right. Something to consider for this week. 655 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: Consider for your soul work, what does your creativity container 656 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: look like if you have one? And if you have one, 657 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: is there a way to spend some time refining it? 658 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think our creativity containers can stand to 659 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: be kind of every so often, maybe every spring equinox, 660 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: or you know, once or twice a year. So is 661 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: there any refresh that you want to do? Is there 662 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: any new kind of art or experience you want to 663 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: bring into that container, maybe some incense even, or you know, 664 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: just move things around, get creative with a placement of things. 665 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: And if you don't currently have a creativity container, what 666 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: could yours look like? What could you start kind of 667 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: putting up on the wall. And don't be scared to 668 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: get it wrong. You know, it doesn't have to look 669 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: perfect right now, probably to you know, the average person, 670 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: my office probably looks nuts, but it looks beautiful to 671 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: me and supportive to me. So figure out what that 672 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: looks like for you, and give yourself a couple of 673 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: months to kind of expand into that, to move things 674 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: around before you settle on anything, you know, play with it, 675 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: have fun with it, put some stuff on the wall, 676 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: take it down, change it here. Do this, you know, 677 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: take a few months, but see what kind of atmosphere 678 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: you can create in your own setting that lends itself 679 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: to activating your creativity. And if you do, take some 680 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: pictures and send them my way. Let me know. Teg 681 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: me at Debbie Brown at Deeply, Well, thank you for 682 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: joining the show. I'll be back next week. No, I'm stay, 683 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: I stay, I stay. The content presented on Deeply Well 684 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: serves solely for educational and informational purposes. It should not 685 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: be considered a replacement for personalized medical or mental health guidance, 686 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: and does not constitute a provider patient relationship. As always, 687 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: it is advisable to consult with your healthcare provider or 688 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: health team for any specific concerns or questions that you 689 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: may have. 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