1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark Vandermaer and 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: John Harris. And this is the very first time this 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: year that we are the warm up band for NFL 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: football because the Hall of Fame Game Johnny is tonight. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: This is one that we missed last year. In fact, 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: we missed the entire preseason last year, so we don't 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: have to get into that right now. But this is it. 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: This starts at all. There's no more weekend without football, 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: college or pro until the end of time February. So 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna be awesome just to see something even 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: though the starters aren't starting tonight. How are you doing. Yeah, 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing great. I hope that you and 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Clint Stirner can get this whole thing squash. I don't 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: know if you had a chance to hear this, but 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Clint was not very happy with you from this afternoon. 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Why because you guys were blocking his view. Apparently at 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: practice he was sitting in the room where the press 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: conferences are and he can see right through the field 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: two and we parked right in front of him. He 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: barked right in front of him, So yeah, he was 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: he was a little he's a little steamed. But you 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: know why he was seeing because he was sitting in 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: the air conditioning and didn't want to park his keister 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: out of keister out of the tent outside where Andre 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: and I were. But guess what, Andre was kind of 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: jelly of ham because Clint, you know, did the veteran 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: move of actually keeping his body in the tent and 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: just finding a little sliver through the door. It's not 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: a door, it's just the way the tent folds up, 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: and he's able to see out while keeping his body 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: air conditioned. I didn't know Clint was that high maintenance, really, Johnny, 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: but it was smart. I gave a ton of fred 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: at this is like quarterback intelligence going back and forth 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: here these two guys. But Andre and I were standing outside, 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: but we were barricaded by the tent and got some 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: shade while we were watching field two and the padded 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: practice today. So uh, you know, everybody found their little 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: perch and we watched an interesting practice. Boy David Kelly, 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: after words, you know he's big on well, if somebody 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: makes the play, it's always the Texans, So that's a 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: good thing. I like that positive approach. But he was 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: not happy with the offense today, I don't blame him. 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: With the zebras out there, the officials out there, I 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: think that anybody can see it, especially you football nerd 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: types where look, you know that operation has to go 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: off without a hitch, and you get false starts, you 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: get the pre snap stuff really read correctly by these officials. 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the coaches are letting it go, but 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: they might let a snap go with would be pre 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: snap and fraction in a normal practice. But with these 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: men and stripes, you're not going to get away with it. 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: And this is what they need. They got to clean 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: their act up. Yeah, Brad Rodgers number one, twenty six 54 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: was out with his crew on the field and we 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: talked about it in the morning Texas Training Camp Live. 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: But you don't want to miss especially tomorrow because of 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Nick Cassario on at eight forty five, So you definitely 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: don't want to miss that. But we talked about that 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: in the morning. How important that is to have officials 60 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: out there that have called the game. And it's important 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: for the officials too. They need to be able to 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: see the game at not perfect game speed, but they 63 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: need to get back to oh my gosh, it's been 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: how many other months since I've been out for an 65 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: NFL game? Oh yeah, these guys move really fast. But 66 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: I think what was disappointing Mark was the fact that 67 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: the two minute drill situation that was so good on 68 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: Monday was completely opposite today. And it was because how 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: many times have we talked about I can't remember what 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: year was, Its eighteen or nineteen things, maybe nineteen, I 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: don't know, but every single time we got down in 72 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: the red zone or even in the low red zone, 73 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: there's a penalty we had to settle for a few goals, 74 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: and it was so frustrating, was so frustrating, and we're like, man, 75 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: what is going on? Why is this happening? And it's 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: been a relatively clean camp for the most part. Now 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: have I seen times when they've led a questionable procedure penalty, 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: false start, go pop problem. But the ones that got 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: flagged today we're obvious, I mean really obvious. And then, 80 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: as John McKay said, well we didn't block or tackle them, 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: we made that even better by not catching the ball 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: or running it well either. Well right after you know, 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: well we had a false start, and then we compounded 84 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: it with a line of quarterback to get sacked. And 85 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: that was pretty much how the two minutes roll went. 86 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: And I could see Coach Color being upset. Look, if 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: the defense beats the offense, fine, but if the offense 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: beats the offense, no go, no good point. And that's 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: what happened. The offense beat the offense. Now the defense, 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: like I said, I had a couple of sacks and 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: made a couple of plays, but it was to a 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: point where you know, Davis Mills had to bail out 93 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: the second opportunity on a fourth down play and George 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: VC made one heck of a catch on the other 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: side of the field. All right, reseet, you got time now, 96 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: took a time out. You're good, get set up, let's go. 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Davis Mills stares down receiver Lyna Johnson makes the pick 98 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: in a way you go, and I start thinking about 99 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: this afterwards. I actually saw Lonnie and going off the field. 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, Lonnie, this gotta be h This's 101 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: gotta be one of many, huh. And he's like, yes, sir, 102 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: gotta be one of many. And he with those cornerback 103 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: skills and he looks just cleaner as my dog was 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: bucking at me. I think because she thinks that she's 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: the Texans dog, the Texans pop and I'm talking to you, 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: and she's really mad. I don't know if she thinks 107 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: that Curbs on the other side, she's very jelly. But 108 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: Lonnie making that play today was hopefully indication of the 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: range that he can show, the experience he now has 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: a playing safety and now he can build on that, 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: and that hopefully is going to be a big thing 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: for the Texans going forward. Well, I'd rather see Davis 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: Mills throw a pick and practice than in a game. 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: This just in and look, you can improve, and he 115 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: hasn't moved. It's just that, you know, you're just gonna 116 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: see some rookie growing pains here with Davis Mills or 117 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: with any rookie in this league. And we talked about 118 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: it this morning. Mahome's throwing what seven picks in a 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: week or whatever the first year he was the full 120 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: time starter when he's running with the ones, and you know, 121 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: this stuff happens. And Trevor Lawrence himself throwing three picks 122 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: the other day. This happens, and you gotta learn from it. 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Just because I hit the ball in the water on 124 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: the first tea in my first few rounds of golf 125 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean I'm always going to do that. I 126 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: have to improve from there. He has to improve from me. 127 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: Even if it is flawless in the two minute drill, 128 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: he better continue to get better. Otherwise these defenses will 129 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: eventually catch up to you and kill you. So it's learning. 130 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: It's definitely lessen time in Houston out there the Houston 131 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: Methodist Training Center turf, and I'm here for it. I mean, 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: this is what we gotta do, this is what we 133 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: gotta see. I do like what I'm seeing out of 134 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: to Rod Taylor, Johnny, I want to ask you this, 135 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: it's time to get into it. A little over a weekend. 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I believe the defense, and I've been saying this, they 137 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: do have players. They do have a chance to be 138 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: pretty good. And by pretty good, I mean look slightly 139 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: better than average, like my golf game. Okay, maybe they're that, 140 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: maybe they're better than that. I don't think they're really 141 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: worse than that, but we'll see when they play the 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: teams on this schedule. But I just think they have 143 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: enough playmakers to make enough stops that if the offense 144 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: can capitalize with the running game, and if the defense 145 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: can get them some takeaways, we might see some pretty 146 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: good results here. But what do you make of the 147 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: defense so far? What you're seeing? It's hard to assass 148 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: without them facing another offense. But what have you seen 149 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: so far? I've used will you and I've used this 150 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: reference a few times to Moneyball. If you remember the 151 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: beginning of Moneyball, it starts the previous year when the 152 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: A's have got a bunch of stars, a couple of 153 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: stars in particular, and one of them is Jason Giambi 154 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: and the other one is Johnny Damon, and the scouts 155 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: are figuring out, how do we replace this guy? How 156 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: do we replace this guy? And Billy Bean and his 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: Moneyball guys said, well, we're not looking to replace. We 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: can't find another Jason Giambi. We can't, but we can 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: find two or three guys that can give us near 160 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: about what Giambie gave us, and we can do it 161 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: for a whole heck of a lot cheaper the two 162 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: or three in combination. And my point with that is 163 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: all the talk nationally is okay, JJ wats gone? This 164 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: defense is gonna stink. This defense was a very good 165 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: last year and now the best player has gone. I 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: mean I heard those exact words our podcast I was 167 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: listening to, and I can, you know, nationally, I can 168 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: sort of understand it. But what I look at Kristen 169 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: Kirksey coming in and what he can bring a healthy 170 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: justin Reid, Lonny Johnson's second years, safety, Eric Murray his 171 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: second year here, you know, Bradley Roby I think is 172 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: a solid corner, no doubt, Terrence Mitchell start on a 173 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: playoff team last year, Charles the manner who taking this 174 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: stuff there's gonna be I think that philosophy of hey, look, 175 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: we can't ever who can ever replace J. J. Watt? 176 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Who can replace him? Nobody? But you can do it 177 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: in totality. And I think that especially on even the line. 178 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: You can see that because I watched four or five 179 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: six guys and I'm like, hey, look, none of those 180 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: guys are J. J. Watt, none of them and they're 181 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: not expected to be. But in combination it may not 182 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: be a bad look. And to me, I watched the 183 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: defense and I see a pretty hungry group. I see 184 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: very consistent in the things they're doing. I see them 185 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: I watched today. I noted it in my observations. Harris 186 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: hits there was a blown assignment and Farrell Brown got 187 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: wide open. Now I can imagine over the first seven 188 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: packses blown assignment here there more than likely. But that 189 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: was the first time that I saw an obvious blown assignment. 190 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: And that shows you, hey, they're minding their p's and ques. 191 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: The time they spent any offseason where they repped and 192 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: repped and repped and repped and repped those coverages and 193 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: drops and where they needed to be. My goodness, they 194 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: did that over and over and over again. You can 195 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: see that comfort level sort of building now. And we've 196 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: also said this too, Master the routine, Master the routine, 197 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: whatever the routine play is. You know, you gotta fill 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: your gap, fill your gap, you gotta make a tackle, 199 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: wrap up, make a tackle. You don't have to make 200 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: the big hit. You don't have to throw a shoulder 201 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: into somebody and not wrap up. If you just do 202 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: the mundane and routine things, then yeah, teams are going 203 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: to pick up yards. It's an offensive league. You face 204 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: some teams with some really good quarterbacks, and you're gonna 205 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: face some teams with some really good perimeter players. If 206 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: you though master the routine, this drop has to be 207 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: this way. This is where I need to go on 208 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: my drop. You play the defense. I think there were 209 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: plenty of times last year where there were guys that 210 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: just weren't playing the defense. They just weren't playing the call. 211 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: And I think combine that with guys that I didn't 212 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: think we're tremendous, you know up front, in particular, a 213 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: couple of guys that are no longer here that hey, 214 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: I think you're getting You've gotten better up front. You 215 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: mind your p's and q's, and you pay attention to 216 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: those things, and you feel gaps. And if you just 217 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: do the routine things and do those really well, then 218 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: you got an opportunity to be a pretty solid defense. 219 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: A defense that's not giving up forty three points to Tennessee. 220 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's not giving up two hundred and fifty 221 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: some odd total yards to Derrick Henry. You know those 222 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: things that's gotta stop. You know, are you gonna are 223 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: you gonna, you know, give up? Are you gonna get 224 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: hold the rushing teams to fifty yards and under everything? No? 225 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: Are you gonna hold him on a hundred every week? No? 226 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: But you're not gonna give up big plays and the 227 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: one thing we've seen in camp, and hopefully this is 228 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: a sign because I remember last year in camp there 229 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: were not a lot of takeaways, not though I'll change 230 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: once this season and then it never changed. Right, This defense, 231 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: I think from a takeaway perspective, is at a much 232 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: different level. And that gets me excited. Well yeah, because look, 233 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: you're facing a rookie quarterback week one, and then you 234 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: face the Browns, who could be really good. We'll see. 235 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Then you're facing Carolina work in progress, but you know, 236 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: maybe they're really good. I don't know. Kyle Allen gave 237 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: you a fifth two years ago, so we'll see how 238 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: that goes. But again, you're not facing murderers row out 239 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: of the gate, particularly at home. You're gonna Buffalo. Okay, 240 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: good luck, because when you play the Browns and Buffalo 241 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: on the road, you're playing two playoff teams on the 242 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: road in the AFC. Then you're home of the Patriots, 243 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: who are gonna be well prepared. We all know that. 244 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: But it's either gonna be Cam Newton, who knows what 245 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: he's liked by then, or it's gonna be Mac Jones 246 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: and we'll see that is And so those are your 247 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: first five right there. The home games I think are 248 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: all quote winnable. I hate to say it like that 249 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: in this league, but they're all winnable. It's gonna be 250 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: interesting to see, you know, if they can play clean 251 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: on offense, get the takeaways on defense, and give themselves 252 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: some easy err opportunities than they had last year. And look, 253 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned the defense last year. Defense two years ago 254 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: wasn't so hot. You know, they want some big games 255 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: by turning people over, which was great. You know, it'll 256 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: overcome a lot of stuff if you're able to turn 257 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: people over. But you know, how do they beat the 258 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs they possessed the ball. How do they beat the Patriots? 259 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: They turned them over early, you know that kind of thing. 260 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: How do they beat the Titans up there late? They 261 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: actually played some pretty good d against Derrick Henry up 262 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: there late. How do they beat the Bucks and Clints 263 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: DAFC South, Well, they turned them over. So that was 264 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. The defense was kind of hanging in there, 265 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: no question when they had the nine game winning streak, 266 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: But you know, they really haven't been who they wanted 267 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: to be on defense twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, when they 268 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: were seconding first in the league. Now, you're not always 269 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: going to be ranked that high in total defense. And 270 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this squad can do that, but this squad, 271 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: if they turn people over, should be able to make 272 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: the opponent work for everything they've got, because on offense, 273 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to work for everything they got. I mean, 274 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: we were watching practice today and I thought, I don't 275 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be an explosive, deep ball kind of offense. 276 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: This news flash here. I don't think we're gonna be 277 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: getting that out of this group. Yeah, I'll take it. 278 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: I'll take it all day long if we do. I 279 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be run the ball, play action, pop 280 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: a big one every once in a while, get some 281 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: yack out of some medium range stuff. Obviously, the throw 282 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: to the backs when you can. I think that's what 283 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get on offense. I can't wait to see 284 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: it Green Bay. I know it's just gonna be one 285 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: preseason game, but man, oh man, I can't wait to 286 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: see it. Johnny, let's go around the league a bit tonight. 287 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: What are you thinking here? You got Mason Rudolph, I'm 288 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: starting to the Steelers. Dak is unavailable for the Cowboys. 289 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: It's the Hall of Fame game. But in days of old, 290 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: as in pre COVID, this would be the first of five. 291 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: Now it's the first of four. I don't know how 292 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: that changes things for them if at all. Clearly you're 293 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: not seeing the starting quarterbacks tonight, you're unlikely to see 294 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: the starters for very long. But it's still gonna be 295 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: fun to see some football from Canton, Ohio. Yeah. I 296 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: don't know how much a guy like Michael Parsons is 297 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: gonna play for the Cowboys. But if I'm the Cowboys, 298 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: first of all, I know he's got to start for me, 299 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: so I don't want to go too far with him. 300 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: These guys have played football since January twenty twenty when 301 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: he played in the Cob Bowl because he opted out 302 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty due to COVID and so he sat 303 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: out twenty twenty, so yes didn't take the pounding on 304 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: his body. But it's gonna be a little bit of rust. 305 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: So Michael Parsons and you know me out the rookies 306 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: guys haven't seen. Those guys are gonna be interesting me. 307 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: And then on the Steelers side, same sort of thing. 308 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Nag Harris is he's I would imagine he's 309 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: got to be the starter in Pittsburgh at running back. 310 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: So I don't think we'll see much of him, but 311 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: to give him a couple carries and his first game 312 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: as a pro, I think that's going to be important. 313 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Maybe throwing one in the backfield, getting two, three carries, 314 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: get him to catch, get him out. But just seeing 315 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: him for the Steelers, I think the Steelers, as crazy 316 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: as it sounds, I think Naja Harris is gonna be 317 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: a big factor as long as the offensive line just 318 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: doesn't completely melt down. And I'm not totally convinced. There's 319 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: no Pouncy, there's no de Castro, there's no villain a Wuava. 320 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: This could be an offensive line that struggles mightily in 321 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Naja Harris may be the unfortunate beneficiary of that. 322 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: But I want to see him in Steelers colors and 323 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: see how he looks. Yeah, I do too. I mean, look, 324 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: I'll watch any kind of football, you know that. So 325 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: I want to see that tonight in Canton, Ohio Hall 326 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: of Fame Game, a game in which the Texans can 327 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: participate at some point. Again, this was the very first 328 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: game of franchise history back in two thousand two. Do 329 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: you remember who called the game? Well, I know you did. Well, 330 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking about TV nationally, Okay, I'm trying 331 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: to remember. Why do I think that game was on ESPN? 332 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: It was Al Michaels and John Madden. That was the 333 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: car Okay. And I'll never forget the day before we 334 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: were on the field and we met Al Michaels and 335 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Kerry Collins was walking around and I talked to him 336 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: for a bid because I interviewed him as a redshirt 337 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: freshman at Penn State. Oh my gosh, that was a 338 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: long time ago. Melissa Stark was there. And the big 339 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: story from the Texans participation in the Hall of Fame 340 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: game broadcast wise was I think there was one bathroom 341 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: at the stadium at the time. That's the Tom Benson Stadium, 342 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: and it's all very nice, but they were holding the 343 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: bathroom at the happen. Hey, guys, we're holding the bathroom 344 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: for John Madden. I'm like, first of all, we don't 345 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: want to get in the way of John mad Second 346 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: of all, nobody's gonna want to use the bathroom after 347 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: John Matt. So I guess we're just gonna have to 348 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: wait until the post game show to use the facilities 349 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: here or somewhere else. I don't know, because like, no 350 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: one's going in there after Matt goes in there. That's 351 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: what I remember about the Hall of Fame game. I 352 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: also remember Billy Miller catching a touchdown pass in that game, 353 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: and he had eventually caught the very first touchdown passing 354 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: team history against the Cowboys. That was also the Jeremy 355 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Shocky game, wasn't it. Jeremy Shocky with the truck. Yeah, yes, 356 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: that was one of the things I remember watching it. 357 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Get excited to see, you know, my hometown Houston, the 358 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: Texas back on and Shocky goes nuts and you obviously 359 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: had seen him down with the Hurricanes, yep, but that 360 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: was that was a little different type of Shocky. I 361 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: mean in Miami, you know, he did his thing, but 362 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: there were so many stars and then a sudden he 363 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 1: gets to the Giants and he cut unleashes and you're like, 364 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: oh wow, this guy's really good, very nasty, kind of 365 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: early two thousands George Kittle type boy. He was. He 366 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: was a manimal good goodness, really good. He caught the 367 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown and wide write three at the Orange 368 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: Ball when the Kings beat Florida State. But yeah, I 369 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: remember that one. And Seth Payne talked about the scrimmage 370 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: you guys were talking about it this morning that the 371 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Texans had with the Cowboys August second, two thousand and two. 372 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: It was only three days later they would participate in 373 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Game. It was kind of funny 374 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: that way, that you had a scrimmage on August second, 375 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: and Seth was noting how dom Capers held back the 376 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: starters for much of that scrimmage. Well, they had a 377 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game a few days later, and you 378 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: only had so many bodies, you know, So you're basically 379 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: playing almost two games in three four days. And then 380 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: that was the first of five preseason games, right, And 381 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: I'll never forget preseason Game three, which is week two 382 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: of the preseason as it stands, or as it would 383 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: stand pre COVID and Charlie casually being on the pregame show. 384 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: Hey see, we got another one tonight, Like it was 385 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: just after another after another, and it was at Kansas City, 386 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: and it just it seemed like it was taking forever 387 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: to get to that preseason because he wanted to get 388 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: to September eighth. But that's the way it went. And look, 389 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: preseason football, when you play in this one tonight, obviously 390 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: you know you're you're playing all levels of the depth shot. 391 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: It kind of resembles preseason Game four the way it 392 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: used to be. But I think it's great for all 393 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: the guys who need to have this action and on 394 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: this roster with the Texans. When you look at Davis Mills, 395 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna be watching Davis Mills next week 396 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: like it's the most important thing ever, because it is 397 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: as far as that week goes in his development. And 398 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: then Jeff Driscoll trying to show something, Hey, I still 399 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: belong in this league. I can still make plays. I 400 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: talked to him this morning, Johnny, and he's got as 401 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: good an attitude as you could have in his situation 402 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: being I guess the third guy on this team and 403 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: just making the most of any rep you can get. Yeah, 404 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: that's what the number three guys got to do. And 405 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: the other aspect of it is, Look, I'm gonna show 406 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: what I can in camp, but I do know I'm 407 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of reps in those preseason games. 408 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: I'm getting a ton of reps in those games, and 409 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: I am treating those like they are week seventeen in 410 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: a playoff bid is on the line, and that's the 411 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: way I'm gonna treat. So it's not as if, hey, look, 412 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: practice practices, pent whatever. Practice is obviously still very important. 413 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: But if you go out there as the number three 414 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: guy and you do something. I remember Tom Savage in 415 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: twenty would we go to Denver twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen 416 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: and Tom had those that good come from behind win. 417 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: It was started getting some momentum. You're kind of like, hey, hey, whoa, 418 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: maybe there's something maybe maybe maybe maybe there's something there. 419 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Then of course Tom had bad luck at the end 420 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: of the year, and you know twenty fifteen, he's got 421 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: the bad luck in the preseason game against Dallas and 422 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, it all went, it all went from there. 423 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: But the point being he knew is the number three guy. Look, 424 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: I've got to get what I can in these preseason games. 425 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, there might be some guys on the sidelines 426 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: that are in hats and jerseys, you know, second half 427 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: because they got starting spot locked up and all that. 428 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: But I gotta go treat this like the Super Bowl 429 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: and I think that's the way Jeff will go about it. Yeah, 430 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I think so too. It'll be fun to watch him operate. 431 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: That's one week from Saturday at Lambeau Field against the 432 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, and then the Texans will face the 433 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys a week after that and Jerry World and 434 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: then the one preseason game here against I hesitated to 435 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: say Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but he 436 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: happens to be on the football team, and I would 437 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: expect maybe he'd get a series that night or something. 438 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: It'll be two weeks before the opener or slightly less 439 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: for them being the Super Bowl champs, but yeah, they 440 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: got to get him some action in the preseason. I 441 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: would think I would think something Johnny, right, I mean, 442 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: just to give him a little taste and maybe I mean, 443 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: first of all, you don't want to play with fire. 444 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been dealing with that knee injury, doubt 445 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: that knee injury for a long time, so you don't 446 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: want to tempt fate. You also have a situation in 447 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay where he's not the number two, but he's 448 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: the number three. But you want to see what you 449 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: got in Kyle Trask in Tampa Bay. Yeah, so you 450 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: really want to see. Hey, look, man, we put a 451 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: second round pick on this guy. We've got to see, 452 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: first of all, can he overtake Blaine Gabbert because that 453 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: probably saves us a few bucks, Not that that's a 454 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: massive issue, but hey, maybe I don't know that we 455 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: really want Kyle Trash to be number two, but if 456 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: he outperforms him. Bruce arians has always said, hey, we'll 457 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: put the guys out performing him there, so they gotta 458 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: see what they got in Kyle Trash. We're gonna see 459 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: the homeboy from Manuel High School, Kyle Trask a lot, 460 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot in Game three, August twenty eighth NRG Stadium opener, 461 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: the preseason finale here all right. Next up, Jacob Martin 462 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: pass rusher, defensive end. How's he feeling about things in 463 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: this training camp? He's coming up next on Texans Radio. 464 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: We just had day eight of training capet's Texans All 465 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: Access and as camp began, John Harris and I caught 466 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: up with Jacob Martin pass rusher but also a little 467 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: bit of a veteran on this team now his third 468 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: year in and he's come a long way. I've come 469 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: far this is a journey. Yeah, but it's it's awesome. 470 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a dope feeling, you know, 471 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: to be able to lead guys in the right direction, 472 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: you know. So I think that's awesome. All Right, I'm 473 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: gonna ask a question. I know it's on the tip 474 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: of anybody's tongue that has thought about this, and you 475 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: know a question I'm gonna ask. You ran a three 476 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: to four last year, Now it's a four to three. 477 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: How does that change things in your world? Nothing? Man, 478 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: It takes me back to my DNA. Honestly, you know, 479 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm I was excited about the change. Um, I'm just 480 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: really just been waiting for an opportunity to play in 481 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: a four to three again. Um. You know that was 482 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: my bread and butter Attump University. Um, not having to 483 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: be in coverage or things like that and just be 484 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: a true defensive end, you know, based down reach. You know, 485 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: those are things that that are you know, easy money 486 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: for me. So so you were, I mean for people 487 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: out there sort of panicking about it, you're saying, hey, man, 488 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: this is a return to center. Basically, this is this 489 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: is comfortable. This is why I I got drafted. This 490 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: playing in the four three is the sole reason I 491 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: got drafted. I didn't play. I've never played in the 492 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: three four until I got here. What's the key playing 493 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: a four three verses and three four? Like you mentioned coverage, 494 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: obviously three four year more of all the coverage, But 495 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: playing a four three defensive end? How is that different? 496 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: My hands in the ground, you know, Uh, less to see, 497 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: less to think about. Um, you know, it's it's really 498 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: I could play a whole lot fasters and not a 499 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of thinking involved. I don't have to see 500 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: who I'm matched up against. I don't have to look 501 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: out the wide receiver splits or um. You know. And 502 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm really just focused on the backfield sets and or 503 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: whatever the offensive line gives me. So that's excellent. Jacob 504 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: Martin joining us. What's love he smith like in the rooms? 505 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: What's he like to listen to as he's addressing the 506 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: whole group? You know, that's another legend of the game. 507 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: You know, someone who who knows defense, he knows the 508 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: NFL defense, uh, you know, and he's he knows pass rushers. 509 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, he's has had some success with the guy 510 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: he's had in the past. Um, so he's a great coach. 511 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: Great gotta learn from great, gotta listen to Um and 512 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: really just to learn football from. You know, he's a 513 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: great football mind, m real good at answering questions or 514 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: asking questions and making his guys think. So I like 515 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: that you mentioned pass rush. There's obviously a lot of 516 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: technique work which seemingly is very scientific, seemingly on a 517 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: pass rush, but there's an art to it as well. 518 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: How do you kind of bridge the gap between the 519 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: two to make sure that you stay kind of innovative 520 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: and kind of artists like, but yeah, you're still hold 521 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: You're still holding in on the technique that's needed. How 522 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: do you match art and science, so to speak, to 523 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: be a great pass rushing? Well? Man, how I think 524 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: about pass rushing? Like you said, I think of as 525 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: an art, right, And with art, you know, you have 526 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: different kinds of paint brushes, right, So with pass rushing, 527 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta figure out what paint brush 528 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: are you? You know, are you a power guy? You 529 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: finesque guy? You a little bit of both? You know, 530 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: when I mean power rushers, that means long arms, bullrushes, 531 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, stabs, stab clubs and things like that or 532 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: if you're a finesse guy, speed guy, you know, that's 533 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: more spins chop clubs, you know, uh, things like that 534 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: where I'm using more of my speed to my advantage 535 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: to set up rushes and things like that. Um, I 536 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: think those are those And how you how you marry 537 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: the two is you figure out what brush you're gonna 538 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: paint with. And once you understand that, then now you 539 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: got to figure out, Okay, how can I because everyone 540 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: everyone moves differently, everyone has different steps, everyone's different techniques 541 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: or different you know, capabilities with in terms of their body. Um. 542 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: You know, but I think some of the best pastors 543 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: are kind of excuse me, unorthodox. Yeah, you know, like 544 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to mimic bonds rushes. It's hard to 545 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: mimic you know, Frank Clark's rushes. You know, it's hard 546 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: to mimic you know, um clear Max rushes or Darius 547 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: Smith's rushes and things like that. Um, but I think 548 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: that's what make guys unique, you know, them understanding what 549 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: they can do physically and then mastering that. So now 550 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: it's it's not a thought, It just happens when people 551 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: asking like what do you think, Like I have my 552 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: go to rush, which would be a chop chop swing. 553 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Um, that just kind of just happens. I 554 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: don't really think about it. It It just it saddles just 555 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: because I've practiced it so much. You know, my first 556 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: two years in the league. I if you go back 557 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: and watch like my Seattle film or even my first 558 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: year here, Uh, all I did was s throw that. 559 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: Whether I won or lost, I was throwing it just 560 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: to get the repetition of it, the muscle memory of it. 561 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: So like when I'm in a position to throw it, 562 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: it just it just comes naturally interesting. All right. So 563 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: we talked to my league Collins, and he mentioned your 564 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: name specifically when we talked about the talent on the 565 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: D line. So what about the talent on the D line, Jacob, 566 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about what's up front this year? 567 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of new guys, Like we said, 568 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, picking up a Leikue was like a was huge, 569 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, having a having a Boss three technique that 570 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: can get off the ball, and uh has very versatile moves. 571 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: You know, he can power rush, you know, he's very athletic. 572 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: He can spend, you know, he can chop um, you know, 573 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: then obviously coming back and playing with Chuck again, UM 574 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: and his and his variety of moves and UM, and 575 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: then adding Shack Lawson and um, Jordan Jenkins, you know, 576 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: And obviously I'm excited to see, you know, John Garnard 577 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, step into his role and I think he 578 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: could be a really good football player. But really is 579 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: excited to see how these guys work, you know. And 580 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: I had opportunity to work with some of these guys 581 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: VT and U Jalil over the break, and you know, 582 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: the guys were looking good, and I think the chemistry 583 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: is gonna be great, and it's really just gonna come 584 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: down to work in those rushes with each other in 585 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: practice and the preseason games and things like that. You 586 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: mentioned you've got a pet move, and I would imagine 587 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 1: every guy that's pass rusher has a pet move. So 588 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: what does it take to learn a new move? Pitchers 589 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: got a fastball slider, he wants to learn a change up. 590 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: He can go through years sometimes to learn how to 591 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: throw an accurate change up and do that. What's it 592 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: like to try and learn a new pass rushing move 593 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: that you want to try and incorporate something that counters 594 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: off what your best move is. How time is that 595 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: to incorporate into your into your game, to bring in 596 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: something new if you will, right, And so last year, 597 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, my biggest thing was coming up with the counter, 598 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: a counter that made sense in terms of okay, because 599 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people think you were gonna win on 600 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: your first move often and how about one of my 601 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: first move, Yeah, I have you know what I mean, 602 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: but sometimes you get caught, you know, So being able 603 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: to counter off that first move where it's it's fluid. 604 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: You don't want to have to chop or chop your 605 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: feet at the top of the rush or slow down 606 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: at the top of the rush. Um, So, being able 607 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: to to counter off the chop swing, which would be 608 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, a spin. You know, I could uh fake 609 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: the chop fake spin you whatever the case may be, 610 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: or come inside whatever the whatever the case is. You know, 611 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: developing rushes that okay, I know, how I set my 612 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: game up would be, okay, I'm going to power first, 613 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: even though I'm not a power rusher, right, I'm a 614 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: good to power first. So they don't know really know 615 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: how fast I am, right, and then they're thinking I'm 616 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna come out the second time in power rush, I 617 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: may touch and go right or or made you know 618 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: ghost right, Von has you know mastered the ghost? Yeah, 619 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, so learn what's the ghost for the listeners? 620 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: What's the ghost? Right? So it's like you're going into 621 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: power rush right, like I may, I may throw my 622 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: inside arm, um, like I'm going to long arm them, 623 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, and I'll take the arm away and when 624 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: because you disappeared and I and I ghost that goes 625 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: underneath his hands. You know, a lot offensive linements are 626 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: this league is amazing. The talent in this league is amazing. 627 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: And offensive linement they're they're they studied just as much 628 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: as we study course, you know, and uh, they kind 629 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: of know us almost better than we know ourselves, you 630 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So um being able to to 631 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: it's almost like magic, you know, trying to sell something 632 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: that you're right, that you're taking away, you know. So 633 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: you get them, you get them to stop their feet 634 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: or to brace for that long arm, for that power 635 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: move to power down it would be the technical term 636 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: for them, you know. And and then abusing their abusing 637 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: their athletic ability to mine you know, more athletic than them, 638 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: so I can start and stop a lot faster, so 639 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: um selling selling those types of rushes, no doubt. All right, 640 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: you're ready for some me the wars. Yeah, these are 641 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: pretty easy. Some you got to pick a new professional sport, 642 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: either soccer or baseball. I got a question, is is 643 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: this like you pick one? Is the soccer in America 644 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: or is it like World Sock Premier League soccer, Major 645 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: League baseball. You're at the height of either sport. Any 646 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: primari league you want could be the German League could Yeah, 647 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: La Liga could be what you want. By Premier League 648 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: is the one most people know, so I would say 649 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: Premier League soccer. Man. Okay, all right, let go with that. 650 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Either Larry Bird or Steph Curry in like a regular season. 651 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I just Steph Curry, man. I don't make a lot 652 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: of people Larry Bird. I would probably say that. Yeah, 653 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: I probably would see Larry Bird was a good three 654 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: point shooter, great shooter, but Steph Curry has mastered it. Okay, yeah, 655 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: well that's because the three point shot came in Larry's 656 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: first year in the league. Nobody was shooting it. Gosh, 657 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I got a fani Larry Bird. What 658 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: has become of me that I've got to defend him. Okay, 659 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: um Instagram or TikTok to Instagram. Okay, cheat meal? Do 660 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: you have a cheat meal? I do you have like 661 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: zero body fat? You have a cheat meal. I don't 662 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: have to watch what I eat. So yeah, you know, 663 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: try to sneak in a cheap so you're good. Okay. 664 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: So with your cheat meal, do you want more appetizers 665 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: and no dessert or do you want fewer appetizers and 666 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: gotta have dessert appetizers, gotta have no desserts. No desserts 667 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: like desserts. I like desserts, but like if I'm at 668 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: a restaurant, I I think about it, like I know, 669 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I rarely ever or desserts at a restaurant. What's your 670 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: cheat meal? Who? Uh? Like you're just letting go man, 671 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: I have a few. In Houston's a great food city, 672 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: of course, you know. So I would say turcula hut 673 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: you know yeah? Or guses yep, or fro chicken or 674 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: uh there's actually this like most slept I think the 675 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: best bart I love barbecue too, so like when I 676 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: when I do, honestly, I think the bag scrap the 677 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: other two when I do barbecue it's I'm eating barbecue 678 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: all day, you know, from a eleven AM, like an 679 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: all day barbecue. Yeah, I'll go order you know a 680 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: pound of brisket. You know, a rack of ridge. Oh yeah, 681 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, a pound of you know how opinions smokes. 682 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, a pound of last you all day, you know, 683 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: all day, just leave it on the counter. Yeah, brisket, 684 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: house feast, the all day. Okay. You went to a 685 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: great university, Temple University, great university, the greatest. I'm gonna 686 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: wipe that out. I'm gonna force you to go back 687 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: to school play ball. You got to pick another school, 688 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: either USC or Alabama. Poh, probably Bama. Man probably Bama. Okay, 689 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: nobody wants to go to the West coast. Nobody has 690 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: picked USC. I've been surprised us. But it's it's it 691 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: is USC with Pete Carroll US. Okay, yeah, okay, remember 692 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: it long ago. That's true. That okay, all right, USC 693 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll, Nick Saban Alabama. It's s okay, that 694 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: was the hot program at the time, for sure. Yeah, 695 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: he went does he went to couple so Syracuse or 696 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: Boston College? Hey, both of them. See, I know you 697 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: had to pick one Rutgers. Oh my god, alright, if 698 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: it was out of those three, I'm probably gonna go 699 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: to Boston College. Yeah, because Boston's Jacob. Thanks so much 700 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: for being with us. Good luck. I appreciate you, guess 701 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: Jacob Martin Here on Texans Radio. Coming up, Johnny catches 702 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: up with the receiver that you got to keep your 703 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: eyes on, especially when the Texans take on the Packers 704 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: one week from Saturday. That's Alex ericson. He's next on 705 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. It's Texans Radio. Now. If you've been 706 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: listening to the programs, watching some of our stuff, you're 707 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: thinking it's overwhelming, all these new players. I cannot possibly 708 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: get to know all these new guys. Relax, it's okay. 709 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: We've got you. Houston. Texans dot Com has all that 710 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: information there. We've done features on every single new player 711 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: on the roster, and if you just want to sample 712 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: a few, well go ahead and check out the one 713 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: on one's Deep Slant interview with Deepe. She catches up 714 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: with a player every day, Drew Doherty's twelve questions, real 715 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: fun way to do that. And if you just want 716 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: to find out what's going on at practice, Deepi's notes 717 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: and quotes. She puts those out every single day, and 718 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: that gives you a little thumbnail sketch of what went 719 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: on at practice. You want to dive a little deeper, 720 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: John Harris with the Harris hits, you find out what 721 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: went on on the playing field. And today, like we 722 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, full pads, third consecutive day. I doubt they're 723 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: like that tomorrow. I think tomorrow is gonna be a 724 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: little bit lighter than they have a Saturday night practice, 725 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: but full pads. Today. They went through more two minute situations. 726 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: They did a little bit more red area, especially in 727 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: seven on seven saw. It was cool to watch some 728 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: of that stuff. And again, everything is a work in progress. Well, 729 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: i'll see it together preseason game number one one week 730 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: from Saturday night at Green Bay right now, And speaking 731 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: of green Bay, that's in the state of Wisconsin. Alex 732 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: Ericson went to the University of Wisconsin and John Harris 733 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: had a chat to catch up with a sixth year 734 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: wide out. You know, it's done often and sometimes sometimes 735 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: well over the last few years, we got to know 736 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: somebody from Wisconsin very very well. I've got another Wisconsin 737 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: night next to me. Alex Ericson. I gotta say, Alex, 738 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: I am really excited for two reasons. One, hey, you're 739 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: just here. You're good, dude, you're here. Well. Secondly, seeing 740 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: you with keypunt returns against us over the years and 741 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: making a play against us, I kind of want that 742 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: for us and not for the other team used to 743 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: be with. But I'm glad you're here, man. Yeah, I'm 744 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: glad to be here. Man. It's It's a great opportunity 745 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: for a lot of us, and I'm really excited what 746 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: we're building down here and just honor to be part 747 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: of it. I having a chance to talk to you 748 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: this offseason, and I've asked this some other guys, and 749 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: you know the answers, you know, a lot of opportunity, 750 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: there's some new things going on here. But why for 751 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: you to Houston make the most sense? Yeah, it was. 752 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: You know, I've been in since the last five years 753 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,479 Speaker 1: and enjoying my time there, but you know it's time 754 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: for like a lot of guys say, new opportunity, a 755 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: chance to build something down here. And you know there's 756 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of us are in the 757 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: same boat. You know, we played a lot of ball, 758 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: been other spots and now we're here, and so the 759 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: competition level is so high and you know whatever, you 760 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: can't worry about the numbers. Can't worry Boulley that, but 761 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: it just it makes you improve every day because someone's 762 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: pushing you and we're all pushing each other in the 763 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: right direction, and that's how we all get better. A 764 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: lot of guys here are on second team, so I'm 765 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: third team, whatever the case might be. This is the 766 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: first time you've changed teams. You've known Cincinnati, you've known 767 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals, that's what you've known. Now you come here 768 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: and things are different. How's that transition been for you? 769 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: And how's it been as you look around the room 770 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: to the other guys that are here from you know, 771 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: seeing their second team or third team. Yeah, it's been. 772 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: It's been good because there's so many guys in this 773 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: locker room. They're high character guys that really just care 774 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: about each other and honor and respect that. You know, 775 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: the journey that guys have been through. And you know, 776 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: that's what's pretty cool about the NFL. You know, we 777 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: all come from different spots. We all have our own 778 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: challenges and hardships that we had to get through to 779 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: get here and so everyone respects that and we're all professionals, 780 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: and so that's just really been what's been fun building 781 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: that the team aspect of what we're doing. Okay, I'm 782 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: gonna assume, like most kids that grew up in the 783 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: state at Wisconsin, it's Brewers, Badgers, Packers, and the Bucks. 784 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: Am I right with that assumption? Yes, Sarah, go Bucks. 785 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: That's where I was gonna go with this man. As 786 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: a kid who grew up. I was born nineteen seventy two. 787 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: Bucks won championship nine to seventy one, so I had 788 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: not been alive to see one. How cool was that 789 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: to see Bucks in six and actually get it done? Man? 790 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: It was awesome. It's just because the way the NBA 791 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: is now, you know, they build these super teams, and 792 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: the Bucks did it through the draft, did the guys 793 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: they had, and you know, Yana stand there, and so 794 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: I think that just makes it even more special. And 795 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: then you know, being a small market team, the city, 796 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, blue collar city Milwaukee really rallied around that team. 797 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: The whole state did, and it was pretty special to 798 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: see them when the when the World Championship. We're talking 799 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: to Eric Murray the other day interviews going fine, but 800 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: then we brought up the Bucks and it just went 801 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: to a totally, totally different level. Okay, I started this 802 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: with Max Sharping. The other day we just happened to 803 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: somebody going across the fields like, Hey, say something nice 804 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: about I was like, I'm gonna do this with everybody, 805 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: all right, So say something nice about Brandon Cooks. Brandon 806 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: Cooks Man, Brandon, I appreciate you your leadership in the room, 807 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: the way he works. You know, he's the most talented 808 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: guy we have. He's the most most accomplished guy he had. 809 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: But he's also one of the most hard working guys 810 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: we have, and that says a lot about who he 811 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: is and the type of person that UM is leading 812 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: our room. Okay, say something nice about mark Ingram mark 813 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: Ingram Man. Mark love your energy, Man, you bring the 814 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: big trust every every every day. Uh, and it's infectious. 815 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: His energy is just it feeds everybody. Say something nice 816 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: about Tarrod Taylor Tyrod. You know, I got to know 817 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: him just this year, and UM, same thing. His leadership 818 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: and his poise that he has back there really just 819 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: makes me feel comfortable to you get in the huddle 820 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: with his command and the poise he has back there. 821 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: Say something nice about Frank Ross. Frank Ross, yo young coach, 822 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: a lot of energy, brings it every day and he's 823 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: been fun to work with and be around. And special 824 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: teams really going to take a step this year. Alex, 825 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're here man. Thanks for the time, 826 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. There's Johnny with Alex Ericson, one of the 827 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: many receivers vying to make the club, and the competition 828 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: is hot and heavy. I mean, we've talked a lot 829 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: about Brandon Cooks, the veteran and some of the other 830 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: vets on this team. But Nico Collins plenty on him. 831 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: Third round draft chroics out of Michigan, another Big Ten 832 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: school along with Alex Ericson's Wisconsin. But Nico Collins looking 833 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: good out there. And again everything they're working on it. 834 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: They're trying to hone things on offense, the defense just 835 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: trying to blow things up. And it's always, as David 836 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: Culley says, the Texans making a play at practice. Well 837 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: eventually at Wolpeeves Saturday night against the Packers one week 838 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 1: from Saturday, not this Saturday. Enjoy the Hall of Fame 839 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: game tonight with the Dallas Cowboys, and the Pittsburgh Steelers. 840 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: Have a great night. Everyone will be on the air 841 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning at eight. Nickas Stereo joins US, John McClain 842 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: and others. Go Texans.