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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. Day one of

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Speaker 1: training camp is in the books, and we are here

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Speaker 1: to give you all the juicy tidbits. Snap judgment time. Oh,

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Speaker 1: of course, let's go. There's never a hot take that's

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Speaker 1: too hot. Yeah, it's never today one.

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Speaker 2: It's never too early to overact from the first practice

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Speaker 2: of training camp.

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Speaker 1: So that's what we're here to do today. Size them up?

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Speaker 1: Is it a size them up Wednesday? Size them up

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Speaker 1: training camp practice? It might be a size of up practice.

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Speaker 1: Go Hodel's out there, Lamar's looking good, Let's size them up.

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Speaker 2: It might be a size of up practice. I agree,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it was an exciting day, of course, and let's

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Speaker 1: just start with kind of your your biggest takeaway, big

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Speaker 1: picture takeaway here, Garrett, Well, just super high level.

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Speaker 2: Like the energy really changes on the first day of

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Speaker 2: training camp practice. Like there's a lot of fans here,

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Speaker 2: like that elevates I think the intensity of practice. Step

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Speaker 2: Ashatti's in the building watching practice. It's like there's more

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Speaker 2: people on the field because there's just a lot of

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Speaker 2: it is here, employees, Like it's just a lot All

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Speaker 2: the attention goes on that practice field and like basically

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Speaker 2: everyone that works here is out there watching practice on

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Speaker 2: that day, you know, And that's not always the case,

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Speaker 2: and but like the first day training camp, basically everyone's

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Speaker 2: attention and focus goes there. The fans are there, the

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Speaker 2: energy was there, and so I think that, like I

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Speaker 2: just think, at like a big picture level, that kind

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Speaker 2: of sets the tone for like the feeling around Baltimore

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Speaker 2: right now. Like, I think that there's real optimism and

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Speaker 2: excitement and curiosity about this team. And I could feel

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Speaker 2: that at practice today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I think it feels like, all right, here

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Speaker 1: we go, you know, the season is upon us.

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Speaker 2: And people think this seems gonna be really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for sure, justifiably.

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Speaker 1: So. Yeah, I mean when you have Odell Beckham Junior

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Speaker 1: out there, lamar, you know, the contract stuffs behind them,

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Speaker 1: all that is in the rearview mirror, it's just like, man,

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Speaker 1: like you have these massive stars out there. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Obj is kind of one guy that stood

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Speaker 1: out to me. And maybe this is because you know,

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Speaker 1: I was on vacate during mini camp and so I

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Speaker 1: didn't really see him. Yeah, he's he's a really good receiver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know who he is. I hadn't seen him on

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Speaker 1: the field yet. Yeah, and so that's where my eyes went,

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Speaker 1: right and a like fans eyes also, you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean Obj's like warming up, like going through individual drills

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Speaker 1: and every like there's twenty fans shouting to him to

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Speaker 1: start catching balls one handed and can I get your

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Speaker 1: gloves and you know, just crazy stuff. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna hear a lot of that. Yeah, And so like

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Speaker 1: a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of kids asked both you and I if we could

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Speaker 2: get them for footballs out of the bag or get

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Speaker 2: Odell's cleats from him. I was like, yeah, let me

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Speaker 2: just go take Odell's cleats off of.

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Speaker 1: His feet and right now as he's in the middle

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Speaker 1: of practice. But it was just like, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: a megastar, right, and so it was kind of cool

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Speaker 1: football wise, and that's where I really want to take this,

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Speaker 1: Like I thought, Odell also looked really good. Now I didn't,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I don't have the comparison point, but

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Speaker 1: in just even talking to people who did like he looked,

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Speaker 1: he took another step forward and was very explosive. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know, you could you could definitely see how much

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Speaker 1: he's put into his preparation physically, I mean his legs

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Speaker 1: are big. Yeah, he did the wise veteran move roll

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Speaker 1: up the shorts a little bit. You know, so you're

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Speaker 1: really showing off those squads, Yeah, justifiably. So they look good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so like he looks strong, he looks explosive, like

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Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of the question about Odell right

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Speaker 1: is like can he get back to pre first knee

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Speaker 1: injury form physically right? And and could he run and

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Speaker 1: explode and be that guy that we saw with the

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Speaker 1: Giants who was tearing of the league And like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what he was like then.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see him in training camps back then. But

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Speaker 1: he looks really darn good. And if he can run

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Speaker 1: explode like this plus catch everything, like he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a very valuable asset if you go.

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Speaker 2: Back to those those that's the seasons at fourteen, fifteen sixteen,

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Speaker 2: like that timeframe when was the best receiver in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he Like what's always just stood out to me, like,

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Speaker 2: of course the hands, the hands are great to catch

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, yes, But but more so than that,

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Speaker 2: like his route running and shiftiness as a runner, like

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Speaker 2: it's so smooth, and he like floats through rout for

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Speaker 2: sure when I watch him, and I see elements of

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Speaker 2: that when I watch him at practice, Like when I

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Speaker 2: watch him go through a drill, even if it's just

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Speaker 2: a coach toss him the football, Like the way that

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Speaker 2: he kind of floats through that drill is so effortless,

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Speaker 2: and I just I still think he has that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think, like you can you can

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Speaker 1: get open with that and catch a lot of balls

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Speaker 1: with that, right Like is he does he have the

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Speaker 1: top end speed that he used to have when you

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Speaker 1: would just run away from people with the Giants. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens saw that firsthand and just run away from them.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's that remains to me seen, you know,

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Speaker 1: but like there's a lot there physically that I saw,

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Speaker 1: even just on day one, and I think he's still

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Speaker 1: in the ramp up period for him. He's not at

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent yet that going one hundred percent, so

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Speaker 1: but I like what I see so far already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one play in particular that that stood out.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of a deep pass towards the sidelines

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Speaker 2: and he ran perfectly between uh Kyle Hamilton and rock cascene, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and just found the soft spot in that defense.

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Speaker 1: And scene kind of elevated a little early. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: somehow to me, like the word that just came up

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Speaker 1: was that was crafty, Like somehow he got separation you see,

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Speaker 1: was elevated a little. I don't know if there was

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Speaker 1: a little elbow, I don't know what was in there,

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Speaker 1: but it was a crafty, veteran like catch between two players.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a really nice catch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like Lamar dropped it in there nicely.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And so like you're like, oh, okay, that that twenty

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Speaker 2: yard play right there, like thirty Yeah, like that play,

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Speaker 2: that's what you That's what like if he can make

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Speaker 2: plays like that, that's going to take this offense to

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Speaker 2: another level. Because like when you think about the Ravens

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Speaker 2: have had some big play potential over the past, you know,

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Speaker 2: over the course of Lamar's career, especially when Hollywood had

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Speaker 2: that big play potential, but like that that part of

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Speaker 1: On the back shoulder stuff all that that.

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Speaker 2: Has not really been an element of this offense. But

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Speaker 2: like Odell and his ability can bring an element of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I think that Todd Munkin will too. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: good passed by Lamar and Odell just got open, and

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Speaker 2: like that's what he does. He gets open, he makes

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Speaker 2: a catch, he moves the chains, and to me, let's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I like what I see.

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Speaker 1: It's early all.

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Speaker 2: That stuff, but like he did take it to another

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Speaker 2: level and he's moving at a level right now. To me,

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Speaker 2: that like is super encouraging that he's gonna be able

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Speaker 2: to be a difference maker.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I mean you're talking about like the intermediate

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Speaker 1: deep passing game. Really, one thing that stood out to

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Speaker 1: me today and I don't know if this is just

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Speaker 1: the focus of like the work that they were gonna

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Speaker 1: like getting the ball out of Lamar's hands and the

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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks hands quickly getting it into playmaker's hands, a

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Speaker 1: lot of like short stuff and say Flowers, it was

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers show there for a lot. He was a

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Speaker 1: that was another like oh this is different, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews said, you're gonna see this offense is going

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Speaker 1: to look different. It is different, and that to me

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Speaker 1: was you just didn't see a lot of that. And

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Speaker 1: part of that it was, you know, by personnel, right,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens just didn't have a lot of big time

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Speaker 1: yak guys. I mean, Bateman could be that, Duverne can

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Speaker 1: kind of be that, you know, jet sweeps and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, but you know, they didn't have anybody like

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers on this team last year. You know, Odell

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Speaker 1: can be explosive after the catch like you're and I

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Speaker 1: think we saw more of Todd Monkin's offense where it's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's spread it out, let's get into their hands.

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Speaker 1: Quicker running back's hands, you know, Melvin Gordon caught a

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Speaker 1: And Lamar even talked about it after practice about like

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Speaker 1: he just feels more comfortable that he can let his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I asked him, like, so when you look

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Speaker 2: like what do you think, Like, what do you think

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Speaker 2: when you see that? And He's like, I just put

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And so I kind of followed up with

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Speaker 1: He not really, he said he never really felt the pressure,

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Speaker 1: but like that, yeah, that he's confident that those guys

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Speaker 1: can make those plays for sure. So it was interesting

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Speaker 1: to see that wrinkle of the offense. Speaking about Za,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, he he's got a new nickname Joystick

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Speaker 1: from Lamar Jackson and uh, one of zay Zay's moves

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Speaker 1: other than Odell Beckham catch uh maybe got the biggest

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Speaker 1: reaction that was kind of in the open field and

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith was coming down on him and he put

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Speaker 1: a little move on Roquon that was a little you know,

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Speaker 1: all respect to Roquan. It's not like he broke his

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Speaker 1: ankles or anything. Yeah, but there was enough of a

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Speaker 1: a got one of those from the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he joked him, He joked him, He

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Speaker 2: joked him, and like, uh, that's a tough matchup for Roquan,

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Speaker 2: is if feel. But like at the same time, all right, Zay,

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Speaker 2: like you're known for being the joystick and this agility

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Speaker 2: guy and having all these moves like here's ro kwand

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Speaker 2: Smith and those are the types of guys you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to see at the NFL level and that part

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Speaker 2: of the field, and you're gonna have to make moves

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Speaker 2: to get open and like he did it, and it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is this is the ability that the Ravens saw

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Speaker 2: in Zay Flowers.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a really good those two.

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Speaker 2: Like if you're ranking, like the question we get home

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Speaker 2: today and your neighbor says, how do everybody look?

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Speaker 1: Who looked good to me? My?

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Speaker 2: My? The top two on my list are Odell and Zay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. I would concur Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean say is just so fast. I mean everybody's

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Speaker 1: just kind of raving about him. You know, even John

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Speaker 1: Harball said, you know he's not I think it was

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's the he's the total backage. Is the way

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Speaker 2: he's also a safety, and Kyle Hamilton basically played that

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Speaker 1: He's a safety. It's like it sounds like it's a

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Speaker 1: safety job exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I know that like part of it is matchup

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Speaker 2: based in large measure, but yeah, I think that he

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Speaker 2: could win that job. But like he's played, as we've

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Speaker 2: talked about, he's played outside corner, so he could play

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Speaker 2: inside and that.

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Speaker 1: If you played the starting starting corner on this team

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Speaker 1: first two years.

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Speaker 2: And he was running back in college, as we always

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Speaker 2: like to mention, So this guy can do it all right,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I would not dismiss him at all in

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Speaker 2: that mix.

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Speaker 1: Two guys. He had a nice pass breakup on Isaiah Likely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two guys who I want to mention who did

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Speaker 2: not practice. It's JK. Dobbins and Rashat Bateman. So they

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Speaker 2: did not practice. They are on the Physically Unable to

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Speaker 2: so you know.

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Speaker 1: So John Harbaugh on him said that it's not a

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Speaker 1: it's not a structural issue with his foot, that it's

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Speaker 1: like these these with he and Tyas Bowser. Tyas also

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Speaker 1: didn't practice today. Tis on the NFI list, Bateman's on

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Speaker 1: the PUP list. It's ancillary issues, he is what he said.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like there's something wrong structurally with Rashad

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Speaker 1: Bateman's foot. It's just that like there's some things that

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Speaker 1: crop up as you're coming back from that injury where

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Speaker 1: you get like little pain spots or whatever from that,

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Speaker 1: and so you got to work through that or whatever

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Speaker 1: you got to get get through that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they want him to work through it. They want him

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Speaker 1: to feel right before he's out there. So it doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound like it's going to be a long time. But

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Speaker 1: he's not there yet, yep.

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Speaker 2: And then JK Dobbin, John harp Best. It's a complicated situation.

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Speaker 2: As we know, JK didn't practice during mini camp. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's been as this whole running back conversation has been

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Speaker 2: going on around the league. He was on the Zoom

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Speaker 2: call reportedly that all these running backs had together, you know,

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Speaker 2: and so here's.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of contract talk about running backs going

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Speaker 1: on exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: And so he didn't practice, but both Bateman and Dobbins

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Speaker 2: came out and watched summer practice. Yes, and so they

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Speaker 2: tried it out there and JK, you know, made his

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Speaker 2: way down the sidelines and stopped by to say hello

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Speaker 2: to Eric Tacosta and Steve A.

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Speaker 1: Shatti.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Jake is stopped by their golf you would, yeah,

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Speaker 2: stop by their golf carts, stay hello, and they kind

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Speaker 2: of shook hands and hugged and talked and for a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes and and it was much different than

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Speaker 2: when JK came out the first day trading camp last year.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, well well you know, I mean like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny to think back about that, and that kind

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Speaker 1: of speaks to what John Harball said on podium apter

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Speaker 1: practice is like, I I know he knows JK, and

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Speaker 1: he knows the competitor that he is, and he feels

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Speaker 1: like these guys want to be out there. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: and there's the complicated issues in play here, but like

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Speaker 1: at his cordses JK want to be out there playing

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Speaker 1: with his teammates, yes, because that's who That's who JK

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Speaker 1: Dobbins is. And we saw that last year what he

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Speaker 1: was like just in uniform with his helmet all and

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Speaker 1: when he wasn't supposed to and he wasn't clear to

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Speaker 1: be out there practice, He's like, nah, practice and they're like, no,

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Speaker 1: you're not. That's you. JK Dobbins is like that guy

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Speaker 1: had that's the same guy. He hasn't changed. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: has a change. He loves football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, so and as we both said a

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Speaker 2: million times, I still think JK is going to be

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Speaker 2: really good player this year, and I think that'll all

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Speaker 2: work itself out.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those two guys, at least we're out there watching

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Speaker 2: some a practice, which is encouraging, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think that that is a good sign for both.

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Speaker 2: Of them to just to come out there and watch practice.

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Speaker 2: So they'll the guys will be back out there on

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Speaker 2: the practice field tomorrow Friday. Saturday is the free open

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Speaker 2: practice at mt BAK Stadium. All passes for that have

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Speaker 2: been claimed, but we are doing a live stream for

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Speaker 2: the duration of practice starts at twelve forty five pm

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, two hour practice, so we're gonna stream the

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Speaker 2: entire practice. We're gonna have a number of guests on

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Speaker 2: the show. Makes gonna be on the show. We also

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Speaker 2: have similar Raven's legends who are gonna be stopping by,

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Speaker 2: which should be a lot of fun. And so legend

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Speaker 2: you were not in the Ravens Legend category, Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: legends and also Ryan Mega is gonna stop so very different.

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Speaker 2: But you'll be able to watch that on a YouTube

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Speaker 2: channel as well as our app and our website. So

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Speaker 2: that should be a fun thing for Saturday. And if

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